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Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: B.Martin on January 25, 2013, 09:49:35 AM
I haven\'t seen it elsewhere in the site, but have you guys seen this?

I absolubtly love it! :InLove

Original article here with more pics - http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/rotary-buzz-re-amemiya-20b-europa/

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:god
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Brett on January 25, 2013, 10:12:09 AM
It\'s stunning! :D
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: marf on January 25, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
Drool........
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 25, 2013, 11:41:21 AM
Very cool!
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2013, 12:00:37 PM
There\'s something missing:(
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 25, 2013, 12:06:16 PM
Grant wants turbo.  This would be fail.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
No it wouldn\'t.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Brett on January 25, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
N/A all the way Grant - a tubby would spoil this!
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: fil_auto on January 25, 2013, 03:15:17 PM
Let\'s be honest, apart from the engine and I agree, it\'s just fine N/A.... it\'s already been ruined, IMO naturally :P :)
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: marf on January 25, 2013, 03:29:42 PM
One man\'s poison is another\'s pleasure ;)
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: fil_auto on January 25, 2013, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: marf;848782One man\'s poison is another\'s pleasure ;)

Quite right, tis what makes the world go round n all that jazz :Giggle :mmmm
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: marf on January 25, 2013, 03:34:20 PM
Jazz? ew.:Giggle
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: fil_auto on January 25, 2013, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: marf;848785Jazz? ew.:Giggle

Yeah you know, jazz club, the fast show, Mmmmm, admirable! :rollin:cheers:cool
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: marf on January 25, 2013, 03:55:45 PM
(http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/archive/b/bb/20070502222727!Roflmao.jpg)
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: fil_auto on January 25, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
Excellent :Laugh.. anyways, back on track before we get told off :Hammer:D
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: turbo boy on January 25, 2013, 04:56:04 PM
looks a bit like a gt40.  :mmmm
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: steve garbutt on January 25, 2013, 06:48:28 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;848764No it wouldn\'t.

I\'m with grant on this one haha :D
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 25, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Two wrongs don\'t make it right! :D
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2013, 07:27:50 PM
2 mods make a right though!
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: grinder on January 25, 2013, 08:46:33 PM
What about 3 of us :D

Brett mailed me this before .. im think its pretty awesome
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 25, 2013, 10:04:36 PM
3 - 2 NA to Turbo.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 25, 2013, 10:36:29 PM
Wrong.
I\'m composing a letter the mr. Amemiya that he has got it wrong and turbo should be installed right away.

Has anyone seen the 20B turbo porche on rx7 club?? Oof that\'s a good engine car combo. Putting down 700rwhp iirc:D
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: zeppelin101 on January 25, 2013, 11:59:13 PM
Utterly awful and hateful.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 26, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
700 whp is as much use as :censored::censored::censored::censored: on a fish if you can\'t use it.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2013, 02:07:29 PM
It\'s in a porche, rear mounted engine and gearbox etc, mechanical grip and hugely wide tyres
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 26, 2013, 03:28:47 PM
So no weight over the front, reduced braking effect and very-difficult-to-control polar moment of inertia from the motor.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: marf on January 26, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
And you\'re basing that on what exactly?

Porsche 911s have roughly 40% of their weight over the front wheels, having a lighter rotary in the back would mean less weight at the rear resulting in a more even weight distribution, so perhaps 55%/45% F/R :)

I guess 45% is a bit more than 0% eh?
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2013, 03:36:25 PM
Will come on, porche have made their cars into amazing machines, suspension, brakes, foam filled fuel cell for stopping fuel slosh. I would have a porche if I ha the moolah.

Ok they aquaplane really easy when its wet under braking but....
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 26, 2013, 03:49:55 PM
I don\'t think a turbo three rotor will be much lighter than a flat six.  In fact, there\'s maybe 2 kg in it, 20B weighs 160 kg, an air cooled flat six weighs 162 kg.  Not sure on the watercooled motor, but it\'ll be heavier.  Coupled to the extra performance you\'ll magnify the effects of the inherent weight distribution bias.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: marf on January 26, 2013, 03:52:34 PM
OK... 911\'s havent been air cooled for 15 years but whatever. Mobile goal posts make for a pointless discussion. :)

Agree to disagree ;)
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
Here\'s the build http://m.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=815969

Regardless of all the weight distribution arguments, which come with v8 conversions FDs too, its still cool as hell and I bet it handles like a beast
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 26, 2013, 04:00:59 PM
My point being that power isn\'t everything, and infact is hardly anything if you cannot use it.  Plus it\'s an aircooled shell, so the relative weight argument is valid, as is the average handling because that\'s the age of 911 that had the worst reputation for general exiting corners backwards through the nearest hedge.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2013, 04:02:39 PM
2nd page 2nd post, 20B ~200lbs lighter Aparently
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: marf on January 26, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;848883Here\'s the build http://m.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=815969



Epic :driving

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;8488852nd page 2nd post, 20B ~200lbs lighter Aparently

Look you, enough with your facts, they have no place on internet forums!
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2013, 04:04:57 PM
Quote from: Will66;848884My point being that power isn\'t everything, and infact is hardly anything if you cannot use it.

Oh right, thought you was being awkward. Lol.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 26, 2013, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;8488852nd page 2nd post, 20B ~200lbs lighter Aparently

Than the watercooled 3.8 Twin Turbo, which was never in the shell they\'re using.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2013, 04:16:02 PM
I want a GT3 RS aren\'t they a 3.9 or 4.0 litre NA? The pinnacle of NA performance right now for such a smallish capacity?
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2013, 04:19:37 PM
701WHP at 16psi
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Will66 on January 26, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
The 997 GT3 RS is a 3.8 litre, there was a special edition GT3 RS 4.0 which is amazing but expensive.  I haven\'t seen details of the 991 GT3 yet, but it\'s not going to use the same motor as the 997 GT3 which is a version of the Le Mans Motor from the 911 GT1 from 1996, they\'re a very tough motor.
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: 600gaz on January 30, 2013, 05:05:12 PM
Loving the Lotus and 20B 911 . Cool as . :yes
Title: RE-Amemiya Lotus Europa 20B!
Post by: Iwan on January 31, 2013, 12:18:05 PM
lots, lots of money went into that one....