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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: Jon_P on October 04, 2012, 06:48:16 PM

Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 04, 2012, 06:48:16 PM
Hi all,

I\'m a newbie here, but thought I\'d put up some pics of my new car I\'m getting in a couple of weeks as well as my previous thread saying hi!

I just got rid of my 2006 E60 M5 V10 which I owned for 4 years which I\'ll put some pics up of as well. Anyway, here is the RX7. It\'s totally standard with only a cat back exhaust and turbo timer. Needs a respray as I\'m a little OCD and the front drivers wing is a couple of shades darker than the rest of the car. However, I\'ve checked for any damage and it\'s free of that, so I\'m content that it hasn\'t been involved in a serious smash or anything.

Here are some pics of the RX7 and of my previous M5.

(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/Nurburg2_zps4c495985.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/IMG_1111_zps03c6c3d8.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/FunkysCard1591_zpsdaf240da.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/FunkysCard1580_zps533d7948.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/FunkysCard1566_zps2f15961d.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/FunkysCard1550_zps06c2f14b.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/555edit_zps8bb9496a.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/DSCF0817_zpsbf725f72.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/DSCF0819_zps14c25bfd.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/DSCF0820_zpsb503fef9.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/DSCF0826_zps4aa76b4f.jpg)
(http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q645/Jon_Powell/DSCF0821_zpsc0972fcf.jpg)

Sorry for the picture overload!

Mod wise, I\'m looking at getting 18" Rota GTR\'s 9.5 fronts and 10.0 rears not sure on ET yet. Also, want some coilovers and a new exhaust and then will do a FEW things to the engine, but not going mad with it. Will be happy with 320-350bhp or so. Be interested to hear peoples opinions and advice :)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: rx-dave on October 04, 2012, 06:51:45 PM
I\'d recognise that driveway anywhere ;)   You\'ve got a lovely car there from a really decent seller, hope it gives you lots of fun :Thumbs-up
Dave.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 04, 2012, 06:54:00 PM
Haha!! Thanks, Dave. Have you dealt with Martin before too? He seems like a top bloke and the car, I think, is a great example! I\'m not an RX7 geek, but mechanically, I\'m fairly well versed, so I hope it\'ll be ok! :)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: wolfie1 on October 04, 2012, 07:13:36 PM
Doesn\'t the fd just look so much sexier! Welcome
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 04, 2012, 07:16:18 PM
Indeed! I really love them! All RX7\'s are awesome looking though. Thanks mate :-)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: TRIND-FD on October 04, 2012, 08:22:19 PM
Nice car, seen it in the flesh. Lovely. :driving

And yes Martin is a top bloke :)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 04, 2012, 08:23:46 PM
Thanks mate. Anything you saw for cause of concern?
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: TRIND-FD on October 04, 2012, 08:25:18 PM
Quote from: Jon_P;837461Thanks mate. Anything you saw for cause of concern?

No,   I am very select where I buy stuff. And Martin is one person I know you can trust :)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 04, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
Ok, that\'s good to know. I have always, in the past, brought from dealers so even though you get stung a bit on price, you get a warranty etc. Being a rotary etc I want to make sure I get a good one... It seemed to me to be good. Only thing I wasn\'t 100% keen about was the fact it came with no history etc and no proof of engine rebuild etc but the compression report would suggest it probably has had one I guess?
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: The dutchman on October 04, 2012, 08:43:48 PM
Really nice car you bought there!!
Be carefull with it :Giggle

I am looking forward to see the rota\'s on the rx.
I am in doubt about rims but  i like the gtr\'s very much.  What colour do you want?
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: kevint on October 04, 2012, 08:49:04 PM
Welcome to MRC and congratulations on the car, looks great :D:D I heard from Chris at RE:Worx that this was a good one.  IMO could do with a rear parcel shelf.

Enjoy :burnout
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: samoht on October 04, 2012, 10:42:29 PM
Nice one, I went to look at this last Sat and nearly bought it, only the fact that I didn\'t fit behind the wheel gave me pause - the car itself was very nice, very clean and original.  Was up for a good price for a \'99, too.

My take, if the compression numbers are good it doesn\'t matter whether it\'s been rebuilt or not, if the compression is good today, then it should have a decent life ahead of it.  With the \'99 spec addressing many of the FD\'s reliability issues, you\'ve got as good odds as you\'re likely to get really.

Since you asked for personal opinions...
i) I wouldn\'t replace the lightweight (6.75kg) stock wheels with relatively heavy cast Rotas
ii) It can barely go any lower, the tyres seem to have caught the front arches\' lips slightly already.  (I guess if you work the arches over you might get a bit better stance).  So coilovers won\'t give you much lower ride height, and you\'ll lose the benefit of the (imo rather good) OEM Bilstein\'s ride/handling compromise.

But it\'s your car, and I can totally see the visual appeal of slamming it on 10" wheels.  Hope you have lots of fun with it!

(http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Mazda-RX-7-FD-640x348.jpg)
(pic from the excellent http://japanesenostalgiccar.com )
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 04, 2012, 11:21:16 PM
Thanks for the welcomes and advice guys. Colour wise for the wheels, I was thinking bronze as black is done a lot, and I think hides the shape and contours of the wheels too.
Parcel shelf is going to be a necessary purchase for sure lol!!
How come you had trouble fitting behind the wheel? I noticed it was tighter than others I\'ve been in but didn\'t think too much about it! You\'ve made me curious now. Is there something different with the facelift or anything? I don\'t want to jeopardise the cars handling by any mods only improve handling and also the aesthetics too. I\'ll see how it goes when I get it, but I do want to make it "my own" - without defacing it of course.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: samoht on October 05, 2012, 12:02:39 AM
To be clear, I was looking at this as my first FD; I sat in the pre-facelift black car Martin had too, and that was the same.  I don\'t think the facelift is any worse than the pre-facelift in this regard - I just don\'t fit any of them!

The problems for me (6\'1") were
1) My knees hit the wheel.  The distance between pedals and wheel is too short to fit my lower legs in between them.  I would need a dished steering wheel or a spacer to extend this length.
2) My hips were too wide for the seats.  It was quite uncomfortable for me to sit in it for any period of time as they wedged the sides of my hips rather than supporting me underneath.
3) Although I had enough headroom, there wasn\'t enough spare for me to wear a crash helmet, so trackdays would be tricky for me without getting the seats changed.
... it sounds like you fit an FD much better than me, so that saves you changing wheel/seats unless you choose to.


On coilovers opinions differ, I don\'t know about FD options but in general beware the cheap stuff, it will be harsh, bouncy and wear out quickly.  Ideally try before you buy - or at least, don\'t sell/chuck the original parts away until you\'re sure you like the coilies.

Equally with wheels, in theory lighter wheels follow uneven road surfaces better, so maintain grip better.  Again, some people care about light wheels, others don\'t notice or mind the difference.  Mazda got special \'squeeze-cast\' alloys made for the FD to get them as light as possible.  If budget permits, some of the JDM wheels are forged alloy, which would be comparable or lighter weight - just for example, Volk TE37s come in 18" in bronze:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5305/5616321525_4cc33b10fd.jpg)
(pic from sileightysr20 on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/36687039@N08/5616321525/sizes/m/in/photostream/ )
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 05, 2012, 12:03:45 AM
Oh, it\'s also good peace of mind to know RE:Worx say it seems to be a good one!
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 05, 2012, 12:12:26 AM
Thanks for all of that information mate. I\'m 6 ft on the nose basically, so headroom is ok... Just! My build is on the larger side, but was comfortable nonetheless. I probably will opt for different seats and steering wheel as I had similar problems to you, just not as bad it seems.

With regards to wheels and coilovers, I am not looking to buy s**t stuff. My budget allows me to be able to buy good modifications. Volks would be an option, but roughly how much are they? For the sake of a few extra kg\'s I\'d probably keep with the Rota\'s if I\'m honest, but as I said earlier, I\'m open to suggestions so they are all gratefully received. I\'d also never throw any if the original parts as I would always have the option to sell the car on with the OEM parts or reverted back to standard :-)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 05, 2012, 12:17:47 AM
Just googled the price of the Volks, and they\'re probably not worth the extra thousand odd to achieve the loss of a few kg\'s all round.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: BlitzBoy on October 05, 2012, 09:54:23 AM
being a stock RS wheel lover (my sliver one has the RS wheels) I say keep the wheels as is and just lower it with springs.

Decat pipe, Induction kit eg RE-A or HKS RS, HKS or Feed downpipe,Apexi ECU, Adjustable FPR, Remap and up the boost to 12 to 13 psi should see you at 340-350 fly quite easily.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: clive on October 05, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
Welcome to MRC, as said above you have one real nice car there :chat

As you have already found above we have guys that will give you sound advice with whatever you do with the car.

Enjoy, I know you will especially if you put this car near a track and see the comparison between what you had and what you now have :burnout
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Mir on October 05, 2012, 10:29:53 AM
Martin is a Top Bloke matey. In my opinion you don\'t need to worry about buying things off him. I actually like this car a lot when it was up for sale. However, sitting on 30k plus FD myself pushed me right back to the corner :(.

Indeed it\'s a very good buy :)

Mir
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: CTworkinprogress on October 05, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
So it was you! Great car you got there. Nearly bought it myself, Only reason I didnt was because I knew I would modify it, and thats not fair to a \'99. Drives like a dream too. Well done, now dont go ruining it with silly wheels and BGW!!!!
 
Oh and if there is one person to buy from, thats Martin
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 05, 2012, 12:04:33 PM
Thanks for all the welcomes guys. And appreciate all the advice and wise knowledge from you all. Not to mention everyone approving of the car and buying it from Martin. When I went to meet him a few days ago and test drove the car etc, he was brilliant. Very knowledgeable and very honest. He was honest up front before I even took the drive to his place in W Sussex.

As for ruining the car, I have absolutely no intentions of that. Assuming that BGW stands for Big Gay Wing, that will NOT be happening!!! I\'m not one for those types of mods. I do want to change the wheels just to make it "mine" mad unique but I am not looking at modding the hell out of her. I\'m not into kits or spoilers etc so rest assured it won\'t be "chaved" up, pardon the expression. Just wheels and lowered and the apart from that, it\'ll be a few engine mods and maybe a slight ICE upgrade.

BlitzBoy - Thanks for the performance tips :)
Clive - Thanks for the welcome. I will be taking her to a few tracks for sure, but not until I\'m used to how she drives etc. The difference between the performance and handling of the Rex and my M5 will be rather large, so need time to adjust to the twin turbo and handling etc. Really looking forward to it though :-) Performance wise I\'m sure my M5 would have the edge. She was 550bhp and 400ft/lb torque, but obviously she was heavy. Didn\'t stop her hitting 60 in the low 4s and top end I had 211mph on GPS.

Once again, thanks all for the welcomes and words of advice etc :-) It\'s all very much appreciated.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: almeida1234 on October 06, 2012, 10:34:11 PM
Beautiful car matey and Martin is a top guy, if you want an uber rate set of wheels look in sale section
Here is the link
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77589
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 08, 2012, 12:14:46 AM
Thanks for the welcome and also showing me the wheels. No denying they\'re lovely wheels bud, just not my kind of style I\'m afraid. Lovely all the same :) GLWTS
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: mpls24 on October 08, 2012, 07:56:18 PM
TBH mate if you get the RX7 over 350bhp i\'m guessing it would have the beating of the M5 on most roads
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 09, 2012, 09:57:27 PM
Do you mean the M5 would beat it or vice versa mate?
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 09, 2012, 09:58:57 PM
At 350bhp the RX7 should have the edge up to 100mph, I would THINK. But after 100mph, I reckon my old M5 would get it....
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: boosted on October 09, 2012, 10:56:39 PM
and then at 155mph your m5 limited would get overtaken !
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 10, 2012, 12:08:39 AM
Who said my M5 was limited? Lol! I had a re-map and delimit done. Before that she stopped at 168mph GPS and after, I had 211mph GPS ;-)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 10, 2012, 12:10:36 AM
Whilst on the topic of top speed, what is the top speed of an RX7?? I\'ve read 150-155mph in some places and others over 160mph etc. Just wondered what the "norm" was?!
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: roborangefd3s on October 10, 2012, 10:03:39 PM
should probably mention this, i researched rx7`s for years before buying one and read up on buying/owning tips on this forum and others.
i bought my fd and flooded it because it all the info i read i never saw listed that you cant shut them off cold and if you do they will flood.
when my car flooded i again went online on this forum and others to look foradvice on how to deflood my car, it seemed easy enough from the details described and the process is simple.
unfortunately nothing was mentioned or written anywhere i looked about how long you can leave a flooded car for, mine was left flooded for a month while i was busy and during this time the seals in the engine corroded after being sat in fuel for so long.
so, as it wasnt listed anywhere i searched -

if you need to turn it off without it being warm then hold the revs at 4k for 5 seconds and then switch key off while keeping your foot pressedm that will clear the fuel and avoid the flood.
then if it does flood then ensure it is immediately deflooded, otherwise you will have a bill for two grand for a rebuild.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 11, 2012, 12:48:30 AM
Thanks for that mate. Knew they flooded easily but didn\'t realise the extent of damage that could happen because of it. Appreciate it :-)
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: The dutchman on October 11, 2012, 11:19:08 PM
I assume it happens faster on modyfied FD\'s. Mine\'s standart and never got it flooded. And it isnt always warm when i shut him off. When it has to go out off the garage or something.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: mexx on October 12, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
wow that is one stunning FD indeed good luck with it looks really clean.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: boosted on October 12, 2012, 11:55:48 PM
Quote from: Jon_P;837893Who said my M5 was limited? Lol! I had a re-map and delimit done. Before that she stopped at 168mph GPS and after, I had 211mph GPS ;-)

:godcool...never hit the the double ton....been 186 on my GSXR 1000 :god

on my list of things todo!
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 13, 2012, 10:39:55 AM
Thanks mexx :-)

Boosted - It\'s quite a strange feeling. In the M5 it felt very safe. But you almost get tunnel vision. My ears popped a few times the noise of you punching through the air is quite a strange one too! Definitely fun though lol!
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: BlitzBoy on October 15, 2012, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: Jon_P;837894Whilst on the topic of top speed, what is the top speed of an RX7?? I\'ve read 150-155mph in some places and others over 160mph etc. Just wondered what the "norm" was?!

I pushed 160 on my stock Twins years ago, soon as you get these cars around the 340-360 hp , easy 175
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on October 20, 2012, 10:15:20 AM
Sounds good to me! On legal roads of course!
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: paul_pablo on October 27, 2012, 12:43:32 AM
Is this your car advertised on gumtree? Only asking as it seems a bit odd since I assume you have just bought the car and its up for sale at a silly low price? Just checking incase its a scam http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/1999-mazda-rx7-type-rs-twin-turbo/1001760381
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: samoht on October 27, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Well, if you really were to decide to sell it, then please let me know.

However that\'s almost certainly some joker trying to use Jon\'s lovely car\'s pictures to sell their own car.  If that\'s the case, probably worth Jon reporting the ad on gumtree.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on November 03, 2012, 03:02:17 PM
Thanks for bringing this to my attention mate. It is mine although I haven\'t picked it up yet. I will get in contact with gumtree ASAP. Thanks a lot.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: RobMatthews on November 03, 2012, 03:40:29 PM
Dont suppose you wanna sell the wheels?
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: Jon_P on November 05, 2012, 07:26:28 AM
I don\'t know. I am looking at getting new wheels for it, but I may keep hold of the originals too for when I sell it on etc. I will let you know if I do sell them though mate.
Title: My new, to me, FD3S Type RS
Post by: paul_pablo on November 10, 2012, 10:05:21 AM
Quote from: Jon_P;840146Thanks for bringing this to my attention mate. It is mine although I haven\'t picked it up yet. I will get in contact with gumtree ASAP. Thanks a lot.

No worries