Ive got my FB project project that has a FC turbo brake conversion.. The car has been sitting for 5 years in storgae and im slowly putting it back together..
The brakes in the car i thought were FC turbo but they dont fit the braketry that comes with teh RE Speed kit and im thinking they are either FC NA or FD perhaps.. pics below.. Ive full rebuilt them also so would like to use them if i can..
As they dont appear to be FC turbo ive been thinking of easier option of doing away with the cable hand brake and possibly going a hydraulic hand brake.. Are these passable in a MOT test and legal - i would of course be looking for a lockable hand brake..
If anyone has one or knows if they will pass that would be good..
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I\'m not aware of any difference with turbo or na in the UK, think these are FD calipers
The car will fail if you are unable to maintain the locking of 2 wheels by direct mechanical action:
http://www.ukmot.com/3-1.asp#Text_top
Hmmmm anyone after a set of freshly rebuilt rd rears???
Quote from: m1tch;834793The car will fail if you are unable to maintain the locking of 2 wheels by direct mechanical action:
http://www.ukmot.com/3-1.asp#Text_top
You missed the next page - it has the exception - there always is one ;)
http://www.ukmot.com/3-2.asp#Text_top
so i rang 2 MOT stations in my close vacinity and told them of my caliper / hand brake cable issue and said ive installed a locking hydraulic hand brake - both asked if it was standard from factory and i said no its a after market thing and both agreed that as long as it operates in the same way and also locks both wheels the its MOT passable..
So i think might look for a lockable hand brake and see how it goes.. Can anyone recommend a lockable one??
Hmmm could you use a line lock valve? Ie you pull the normal hydro handbrake and then turn the line lock valve, it would then keep that pressure in the line, it works on normal brakes so I guess I don\'t see it being an issue with a hydro hand brake as its doing the same thing lol probably a cheaper option if you already have a standard hydro.
So are you saying that a lockable hydro brake wont hold pressure?
No i think he was just saying it may be cheaper.
Although I am pretty sure an electrically operated linelock would not be allowed, so it would have to be a mechanically operated valve, as per that 2nd section on hand operated brakes.
I thought most hydraulic hand brake kits had a lock option, it\'s just not normally fitted by the drift boys, as they only want to upset the car momentarily.
This even states that it can be used as a parking brake:
http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/Product.do?method=view&n=2276&p=214869&c=215
i do have a brand new B&M line locker an old project i could use but i usually plumb them back wards so i can do power skids :)
I am leaning towards something like this i think..
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http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/oncirrus/system/trans.png
I can\'t seem to see that image, but I am guessing you are going for this product:
http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/rally/hydraulic-handbrakes/optimum-balance-products-locking-vertical-hydraulic-handbrake
yes thats the one.. The one that you have there with the simple leaver could also work and i guess be hidden in the centre console or something..
hmmm what to do - only concern i have if i go a full lever is the whole dash and interior bits have been flocked and i would like to cut it up to put a hydro brake where the centre consol is..
Quote from: Prof;834833No i think he was just saying it may be cheaper.
Although I am pretty sure an electrically operated linelock would not be allowed, so it would have to be a mechanically operated valve, as per that 2nd section on hand operated brakes.
I thought most hydraulic hand brake kits had a lock option, it\'s just not normally fitted by the drift boys, as they only want to upset the car momentarily.
interesting, i had a passatt and the handbrake worked on a button, always wondered what would happen if the battery went flat with the handbrake on!
On the Passat if the battery goes flat with the handbrake on then the handbrake stays on, I think you energise a relay to get it off so if the battery power fails then the battery comes on. But as soon as you put a jump start across the battery you can take it off again. It happened to my dad\'s Passat when he left the boot open overnight.
ah still a pain in the backside then! but must mean a electronic set up is legal?
The electronic set up is legal because it\'s an electronic control of a mechanical brake. I think the hydraulic brake set up falls foul of the direct mechanical action bit of the MOT regulations.
ah makes sense now then, saftey reasons i guess
yeh but i spoke with 2 MOT stations and they ssaid thats fine having a hydraulic hand brake as long as when its pulled it locks 2 wheels and doesnt move.
I understood that the issue with a hydraulic handbrake is that if the brake lines fail then you lose all braking, with a mechanical handbrake you\'ve still got the ability to apply the brakes.
going back to the passat its a handbrake that is wound up by a stong electronic motor. if the battery does go flat the EPB can be un-wound using a special tool.