Mazda Rotary Club

Hi Guys

After having trouble with my manifold, I did a lot of research in order to source a best manifold for my 20b. During my research I came across a company whose work looked really well and I quickly placed an order for a T6 undivided equal runner manifold. After detailed discussion, they kindly authorised me to start a group buy of their manifolds. When I asked them about the price of the individual manifolds, here what they replied

"Pricing for a 13B manifold would depend on several things… Flange (T4/T6), one or two waste gates, waste gate size, material, etc.

What would the potential buyers like to see?

A standard manifold (again, anything can be done at the customer’s request) would consist of 2” sch10, 304L material (perfectly suitable for the application… it’s the weld process that makes or breaks the manifold, not the material), equal length runners, .50” thk. Flanges.

Passivation to ASME A967 to remove contamination would also be standard.

Options would include, but are not limited to…. Material choice (321ss, Inconel, titanium), electro-polishing, overall design, flange options, wastegate options, etc.

Let me know what those who have interest would like to see, and I can give you pricing for it.

Thanks"

So if you guys would like to join the group buy, please PM me your spec, requirements and I will get you the price.

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1. Mir (T6 undivided, 321,Equal Runners,62", modified waste gate location)

Standard manifolds for fc???

Spec and requirement please

Cheers

Pics of the work would be a help to allow people to see the standard of workmanship they expect to get.

All will be up soon. I am working on it :D

Mir

Some pics of manifolds

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Let me know what you guys think of them.

That will work extremely well( except for the wastegate location). That is pretty much exactly how I build most of our FD turbo manifolds..

rough idea on price would be good. I\'d be after once similar shape to HKS one, as all my pipework currently lines up!

Col, the guy is very meticulous and he does not want to give rough prices because I said, rough prices sometimes back fire. Loll

By all means send me your spec and preferences and I will get you the price.

Cheers
Mir

Seen the thread on rx7 club where these manis were made. Top stuff, a lot of hours have gone into them.

How much would a t4 divided flange with tial 60mm wastegate v band flange be?

Grant, I will ask the guy and report back. The work you saw there is nothing, lolll watch what I bring and introduce for my fellow rotorheads I am planning to become a ManifoldMan lollll however, I am not yet, so I better say nothing for a time being : D

Mir

Hi Mir,
how are you doing,,
 
would he be able to get the specs for a Cosmo,,  I was thinking you may still have your old manifold off the 20B motor when you got it as I am sure the Cosmo will not be the same as an RX7 even with a 20B under the hood,,, unless somebody with more knowledge tells me any different ??
 
Frank

Grant you have PM.

Hi Frank, my manifold is still here. I don\'t think it will be an issue. However, I will ask him for you.

Cheers
Mir

Frank Do you want T6 or T4 flange?

Si, you have email.

Cheers

Mir,,
 
forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between the 2?
 
I would go with your reccomendations as you know the future plans for my Cosmo, Manual  gearbox,,Single Turbo,, stand alone ECU,,,,,, and with you having a 20B yourself (well for now anyway :cool) you will know what will work best for me

Ok, I just spoke with the guy in detail. He has kindly agreed that, if we buy 5 or over manifolds he will reduce the price to a great extent. I don\'t wish to pay someone 825dollars plus shipping when I know, I can get it for a cheaper price.

May I kindly ask those who are interested to express their interest and detail their requirements so that I can get the final quote for everyone which will be discounted one. The guy is very genuine and he already said that, the more manifolds I buy off him the lower he will go in pricing. Which is fair enough.

Cheers

I am definately interested but not sure of the spec I need / want
 
Frank

Like I said on fduk... Dude...you gotta sort out what manifolds to offer and pricing.

Quote from: frank20bcosmo;810579I am definately interested but not sure of the spec I need / want
 
Frank

Umm well on a 20b people(and I) prefer T6 Flange. However, I just saw a car which produced over 1000RWHP, on T4 flange, Custom AR1.22 and 88mm Wheel.

So for your application, if you want a nice road Set Up, T51SPL is going to be ideal. Firstly, it\'s Ball bearing turbo-quick Spool up, Secondly, it sounds really well, Thirdly, it holds it\'s value and comes with T4 flange and lastly it can produce over 800hp if you decided to ever reach that high :eek:

For your application, I would happily copy my design which I built after spending numerous hours of research, however, I would suggest installing a T4 flange on it unless you want to join my club, the Nuts Club, and go GT4788 BB turbo with T6 flange.

Cheers

Quote from: Ed_RX7;810580Like I said on fduk... Dude...you gotta sort out what manifolds to offer and pricing.

I am on it Ed, but the guy I am dealing with is way too honest. He wants to charge people for the work they need doing. He is scared of "over pricing" as he believes in repeat custom.

So far so good. I am sure once all the questioned are answered, I will happily put the prices. I have already received the price list which will be uploaded soon

Cheers

Quote from: Mir;810581Umm well on a 20b people(and I) prefer T6 Flange. However, I just saw a car which produced over 1000RWHP, on T4 flange, Custom AR1.22 and 88mm Wheel.
 
So for your application, if you want a nice road Set Up, T51SPL is going to be ideal. Firstly, it\'s Ball bearing turbo-quick Spool up, Secondly, it sounds really well, Thirdly, it holds it\'s value and comes with T4 flange and lastly it can produce over 800hp if you decided to ever reach that high :eek:
 
For your application, I would happily copy my design which I built after spending numerous hours of research, however, I would suggest installing a T4 flange on it unless you want to join my club, the Nuts Club, and go GT4788 BB turbo with T6 flange.
 
Cheers

Mir, I am not as bonkers as you  :evillaugh,, the road set up sounds ideal copying your design which I am sure looks spot on but go with the T4 flange..
 
Thanks

Quote from: frank20bcosmo;810583Mir, I am not as bonkers as you  :evillaugh,, the road set up sounds ideal copying your design which I am sure looks spot on but go with the T4 flange..
 
Thanks

T4 is perfect for you. I am just a mad guy chasing for 1000hp lolll. I am going to copy my design for you and get the ball rolling. So, I have you in :D

Just received an email from the guy, tonight he is going to do what I told him to do for me :D. Tomorrow morning hopefully I would have all the info. He just sent me a one pic of his recently developed manifold, man, that was just awesome. I can\'t wait to introduce his work in the UK. Top guy and extra honest.

Keep asking me questions guys. It\'s a good mental exercise for us

Mir

List

Mir: T6 GT4788 Ball Bearing, undivided flange, Equal runners, 62", 316, modified wastegate location
Frank: T4 T51 SPL divided flange, Equal runners,62", 316, modified wastegate location

Ok just received first part of the communication.

About the Company I am going to use, here what they say about themselves.

"We are able to fabricate and weld the following materials:

Stainless steels (304,316,321)
Aluminum
Titanium
Superaustenitic stainless steels such as AL-6XN
Super Duplex steels
Mild steels, carbon steels, and chromoly (roll cages, frame, engine girdles, etc.)

All of our piping is done in accordance with B31.3, which is above and beyond any automotive requirement.

All manifolds and downpipes are purged with %100 Argon for %100 joint penetration.
All flanges are welded both inside and out.

All flanges used on exhaust manifolds are .50" thick

We can supply custom fuel rails, fittings, brackets, etc. with our manifolds.

We have the largest Mazak rotary laser in the US in-house, and are able to cut our geometry to within .002" tolerance (0.05mm).

We design all of our parts in 3D using SolidWorks.

The biggest limitation is simply not having a customer\'s personal car to work with... everyone has different set-ups with different parts, different turbos, etc.. which makes it impossible to make a "one size fits all" solutions, obviously. However when it comes to the rotary engine bay we have a very good grasp on how things fit, and can and cant be done."

Cheers
Mir

Some Pics of my manifold

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Let me know what you guys thought.

Cheers
Mir

I have seen the pictures on rx7club and I was thinking it was your manifold. Looks really good, hopefully will do the job for you.

When is the turbo coming?

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;811116I have seen the pictures on rx7club and I was thinking it was your manifold. Looks really good, hopefully will do the job for you.

When is the turbo coming?

I have sent an email to the seller but for some reasons, he is just being an idiot for not responding to me. :censored::censored:

Mir

Quote from: Mir;811111Some Pics of my manifold
 
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Let me know what you guys thought.
 
Cheers
Mir

Looks tasty,and the cost?

Quote from: frank20bcosmo;811122Looks tasty,and the cost?

It is a bit expensive bit of a Kit as I went for 3 EGT bungs and an undivided T6 Flange along with other modifications.

The cost of your manifold will be different to what I paid for that as you would want a T4 flange and you would have different runners length.

Do you have my email address? its gillanis@hotmail.com

Mir

Quote from: Mir;811123It is a bit expensive bit of a Kit as I went for 3 EGT bungs and an undivided T6 Flange along with other modifications.
 
The cost of your manifold will be different to what I paid for that as you would want a T4 flange and you would have different runners length.
 
Do you have my email address? its gillanis@hotmail.com (gillanis@hotmail.com)
 
Mir

Thanks Mir, mine is frank_hayes@btinternet.com (frank_hayes@btinternet.com)
speak soon
 
Frank

Mir
 
that is frank_ hayes,, you can\'t see that when it is underlined :2Rolleyes

I will mail you tonight Frank. Cheers

Syed,, I have had somebody mail me on another forum to see if I can get hold of a 20b engine for his RX7,, I know you have said in the past you have a contact for these,, any idea on prices and if he is still interested I can give you his details,, I think he is from Paris but is living in Dover

Quote from: frank20bcosmo;847912Syed,, I have had somebody mail me on another forum to see if I can get hold of a 20b engine for his RX7,, I know you have said in the past you have a contact for these,, any idea on prices and if he is still interested I can give you his details,, I think he is from Paris but is living in Dover

Hi Mate
 
Not a problem.. please fire over the email and I will send him the details..yes the engine is available and still for sale.. ;)
 
Mir

Syed

as he has contacted me on another forum I will ask him for his e-mail address
and you can e-mail him direct

Cheers Bud,, how is the beast doing? any other issues since the clutch problem?

Quote from: frank20bcosmo;848050Syed

as he has contacted me on another forum I will ask him for his e-mail address
and you can e-mail him direct

Cheers Bud,, how is the beast doing? any other issues since the clutch problem?

Hi Mate, the car is fine :)... Just waiting for 2400cc injectors and a gearbox. Then, the boost is going up ;)

Mir

Quote from: Mir;848102Hi Mate, the car is fine :)... Just waiting for 2400cc injectors and a gearbox. Then, the boost is going up ;)

Mir

Very much looking forward to your cars progress syed:) I thought you had all ready upped the injector size?

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;848106Very much looking forward to your cars progress syed:) I thought you had all ready upped the injector size?

Mate, waiting on Pips call. Soon some trick injectors will be introduced by WGT. Those injectors will shock quite a few people-the best of both world I call them :).

Believe me, it\'s hard as it is to drive that thing in a straight line on the road, don\'t know what\'s going to happen when I up the boost:eek:...

Mir

Mir,,
 
That guys e-mail is as follows
cb60230@laporte.net (cb60230@laporte.net)
 
Frank

Quote from: frank20bcosmo;848354Mir,,
 
That guys e-mail is as follows
cb60230@laporte.net (cb60230@laporte.net)
 
Frank

Frank, will send out the email tonight. Cheers buddy

Mir

Quote from: frank20bcosmo;848354Mir,,
 
That guys e-mail is as follows
cb60230@laporte.net (cb60230@laporte.net)
 
Frank

Frank the email address you provided is not right.. I have tried sending emails quite a few times and each time I had failure delivery report. Can you please confirm the email address with recipient.

Thanks