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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: YAU730 on November 04, 2011, 12:31:27 AM

Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 04, 2011, 12:31:27 AM
Will be a turbo i will be putting on once engine has blown.

What is needed as i will like to pretty much shop now and collect parts slowly and place them in the house.

I would be running Bridgeport and would like to have 500-550hp range.

Would like to know the list a need:

Sard fuel pump 280l (Done)
Injector size?
Clutch? (using ACT 6 puck clutch kit, this ok?)
Intercooler/radiator? (want to ran V-mount, does any radiator be ok for v-mount or only a few?)
Boost con.


Anything else i would need?
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2011, 06:57:13 AM
2 x 1680 Bosch injectors, top feed and fuel rail.
Fuel filter chanelge if it hasn\'t been done
A twin plate clutch of some description, OS Giken
There are a few places that do v mounts just ring around or you could make your own quite easily.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 04, 2011, 11:15:23 AM
Thanks, another thing i want to ask is it runs the wastegate when installed, does that mean u remove your exciting atmospheric dump valve or just recirculate them back?
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2011, 11:50:04 AM
Your dump valves will get thrown in the bin along with all the other crap that comes with the standard twins.

If you want to have a dump valve then I suggest you run a non ported shroud cover( I\'m not sure if these turbos do or don\'t have different compressor housings) and install a turbo smart race port dump valve. Just google it to see what I\'m talking about, they\'re huge.

Alternatively you can give AET turbos a ring and they will tell you prices etc of the race port. I thi I they\'re around £300
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Ed_RX7 on November 04, 2011, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: YAU730;797385
Clutch? (using ACT 6 puck clutch kit, this ok?)
I


ACT Clutch is Fine mate.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 04, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
With this turbo you will need the manifold to go with it and one of their own wastegates so it all bolts together nice and simple.

I\'m running a Tial 60mm wastegate with my BW s366 turbo. It I have to chop and weld my fanimold to suite the Tial wastegate.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: HaywardRotary on November 04, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
You\'ve got most of right,
Clutch won\'t last long unless you get a twin plate cerametallic or triple carbon at that power level.
As Grant said 1680cc secondaries, stock primaries, Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator and good V mount will work well and Tial 60mm wastegate or the original HKS one that comes with the T51r Kit.
Apexi ecu.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Ed_RX7 on November 04, 2011, 01:28:27 PM
i know people....me included, who have this clutch (ACT 6 PUCK) with 450hp+ ATW and its fine
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 06, 2011, 02:10:11 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;797411Your dump valves will get thrown in the bin along with all the other crap that comes with the standard twins.

If you want to have a dump valve then I suggest you run a non ported shroud cover( I\'m not sure if these turbos do or don\'t have different compressor housings) and install a turbo smart race port dump valve. Just google it to see what I\'m talking about, they\'re huge.

Alternatively you can give AET turbos a ring and they will tell you prices etc of the race port. I thi I they\'re around £300

I have a hks ssqv, not sure on the turbo smart ones as want to stick to jap parts...
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 06, 2011, 02:13:26 AM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;797429You\'ve got most of right,
Clutch won\'t last long unless you get a twin plate cerametallic or triple carbon at that power level.
As Grant said 1680cc secondaries, stock primaries, Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator and good V mount will work well and Tial 60mm wastegate or the original HKS one that comes with the T51r Kit.
Apexi ecu.

Twin plates i have owned but a triple plate? car will mainly be for street use, i guess this is much harder to use then the twin plate? as i still stall from time to time and scared of hill starts on my twin :D
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 06, 2011, 10:48:52 AM
A triple plate carbon won\'t be heavy under foot, I have used a single plate carbon and it was as light as a feather!
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 06, 2011, 10:52:30 AM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;797429You\'ve got most of right,
Clutch won\'t last long unless you get a twin plate cerametallic or triple carbon at that power level.
As Grant said 1680cc secondaries, stock primaries, Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator and good V mount will work well and Tial 60mm wastegate or the original HKS one that comes with the T51r Kit.
Apexi ecu.

Quote from: YAU730;797671I have a hks ssqv, not sure on the turbo smart ones as want to stick to jap parts...

Big turbos require big BOVs IMO, Tial do a large BOV too.

I personally won\'t be running a BOV but a may change turbos front cover to a non ported shroud so I can run a large BOV to see if there is any advantage to using one. Got to get the car built first though.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 06, 2011, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;797689A triple plate carbon won\'t be heavy under foot, I have used a single plate carbon and it was as light as a feather!

I had the Excedy twin now the ACT and both feels like the same stiffness, i thou i triple will be worse and a nightmare on road and traffic use :3Confused
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 06, 2011, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;797693Big turbos require big BOVs IMO, Tial do a large BOV too.

I personally won\'t be running a BOV but a may change turbos front cover to a non ported shroud so I can run a large BOV to see if there is any advantage to using one. Got to get the car built first though.

I might just buy another hks one and weld 2 on but still early stages...
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 11, 2011, 12:56:46 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;7973932 x 1680 Bosch injectors, top feed and fuel rail.
Fuel filter chanelge if it hasn\'t been done
A twin plate clutch of some description, OS Giken
There are a few places that do v mounts just ring around or you could make your own quite easily.

Would the Sard 1000cc be ok? if so what [SIZE=-1]Impedance[/SIZE] is needed? (High or Low?)
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Turblown on November 14, 2011, 03:50:24 AM
ACT clutch will be fine, I\'ve made over 440ft lbs of torque with one. For drag racing a twin-plate would be ideal. 280lph fuel pump isn\'t enough for 550hp, nor are 1680cc injectors. I would get the ID2000s(2200cc) and stock primaries. You are talking about 550rwhp, correct, and not 550BHP? I assume rwhp since you are using such a large turbo, be silly to run it at 550BHP...
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on November 16, 2011, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: Turblown;798745ACT clutch will be fine, I\'ve made over 440ft lbs of torque with one. For drag racing a twin-plate would be ideal. 280lph fuel pump isn\'t enough for 550hp, nor are 1680cc injectors. I would get the ID2000s(2200cc) and stock primaries. You are talking about 550rwhp, correct, and not 550BHP? I assume rwhp since you are using such a large turbo, be silly to run it at 550BHP...

Hm.... everyone has different sayings on fuel pumps but i have left the 280 in place and using the standard collector as its much larger than the sard.

Do u mean 2x2200cc on stock primaries?

Whats the diff with rwhp and bhp?
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on June 21, 2012, 01:07:26 AM
It\'s time for me to get this built setup soon so buying parts slowly and gathering them up. Set up with be:


T51R Kai (BB) Turbo, HKS T51R Flange          Manifold, HKS GT II Wastegate (50mm)
Custom WGT 3" downpipe
,
850cc sard primary and 1680cc bosch          secondary
,
Sard rail Kit.
HKS Intercooler Kit - R Type V-Mount.
and standard non ported engine, would it be ok to run your standard radiator at the moment before rebuild and Bridgeport or is it best too for safety?

I already have on the car:
ACT Twin          plate,
Sard fuel pump 280l

This setup be fine at the moment for a non ported engine or anything else i missed out that people can fill me up on thanks.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: CTworkinprogress on June 21, 2012, 07:39:51 AM
Surely with no porting you\'ll take forever to spool that turbo
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 21, 2012, 09:19:56 AM
Depends what size AR he has got, but still a big turbo for standard ports.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Ada7 on June 21, 2012, 06:26:28 PM
I\'ve got a hks manifold for the T51 which I could be selling if you need it. :)

Adam
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on June 21, 2012, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: Ada7;827095I\'ve got a hks manifold for the T51 which I could be selling if you need it. :)

Adam

What\'s the condition n price? If u can send me more pictures thanks.
yau1985@hotmail.com
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Natthapon on June 21, 2012, 08:03:29 PM
Michael,

You can have a look round my set-up at the Help for Heros on the 26th Aug if you like,

I\'m running a T51R SPL with Ported of some sorts Engine.. Sard Rails and mods to what your looking for..
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Ada7 on June 21, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: YAU730;827109What\'s the condition n price? If u can send me more pictures thanks.
yau1985@hotmail.com

Email sent :)

Adam
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: YAU730 on June 22, 2012, 01:27:31 AM
Quote from: Natthapon;827111Michael,

You can have a look round my set-up at the Help for Heros on the 26th Aug if you like,

I\'m running a T51R SPL with Ported of some sorts Engine.. Sard Rails and mods to what your looking for..

Where can i find ur mod list thanks...
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Natthapon on June 22, 2012, 09:13:32 AM
This months Japanese Performance.
Title: HKS T51R KAI questions
Post by: Ada7 on June 24, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
Did you get my email about the manifold mate?

Adam