Title: bathurst edition
Post by: s.g on June 19, 2004, 12:11:28 PM
Post by: s.g on June 19, 2004, 12:11:28 PM
hi people just looking for some info,
i am looking at buying my first rx7 soon and seen one i am interested in which the seller says its a bathhurst edition.I was just wondering is there any way of telling if it is i.e vin plate codes or certain spec.
any help would be grateful
thanks
s.g
i am looking at buying my first rx7 soon and seen one i am interested in which the seller says its a bathhurst edition.I was just wondering is there any way of telling if it is i.e vin plate codes or certain spec.
any help would be grateful
thanks
s.g
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: msc125 on June 19, 2004, 02:36:21 PM
Post by: msc125 on June 19, 2004, 02:36:21 PM
mmmmm..... bathurst:p
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1070
http://www.j-garage.com/6110.htm
vin deciphering:
//www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/VIN.html
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1070
http://www.j-garage.com/6110.htm
vin deciphering:
//www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/VIN.html
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: s.g on June 20, 2004, 10:00:35 AM
Post by: s.g on June 20, 2004, 10:00:35 AM
thanks very much for the links i will have a look now
cheers
s.g
cheers
s.g
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: FDDreamer on June 21, 2004, 02:28:24 PM
Post by: FDDreamer on June 21, 2004, 02:28:24 PM
Hi s.g. :wave
Good question! The problem is there are many different Bathurst editions, and it\'s difficult to tell them all apart. In fact, i was counting the other night, and i figured there are 21 different model NAMES for the FD3S, and some of those (for example, RZ) have multiple examples that are different!
Now, the first Bathurst was released in 1994 (therefore a version 2 model) and was apparently the \'budget\' version. This initially came as a shock to me, as i thought the Bathurst, being a special edition, would be \'better\'. That said, perhaps the reason it was cheaper was because it had less equipement (and therefore less weight?). Not too sure. Anyway, it\'s full title was the RX-7 Type R2 Bathurst.
Next one was the Bathurst released in 1995 (version 3) which was followed later in the year by the Bathurst X. The latter is intersting, as it has a full \'touring\' interior pack - luxury seats etc. Not certain but i think they might be red leather.
Then we have the 1996 models. These are nice, all 265bhp (up 10bhp from old models) with lots of little, but important extras. Round tail-lights, new computer, green dash illumination (instead of amber) and a few more bits i can\'t remember! Anyway, there was a Type RB Bathurst, and a RB Bathurst X. No idea what the difference was, but again, they were the least expensive variation to buy new...but also only available in limited numbers.
Finally, there was a Type R Bathurst R (!) released in 2001. This one was great - special colour, mazdaspeed carbon-effect dash, height adjustable dampers.
Think that\'s the lot of \'em. Seems like they were intended as a \'budget\' line of the rex, although they are rare as not a great deal were produced. Prob best to ask one of the more knowledgeable peeps here though!
Having said that, all versions of the FD are awesome, and with a few mods become very similar in function and looks. Spent a long time looking at various models and specs, but i think now that mileage and condition probably take precedent over special model designation! Anyway, hope some of that was useful to you, and best of luck with the search mate!
Good question! The problem is there are many different Bathurst editions, and it\'s difficult to tell them all apart. In fact, i was counting the other night, and i figured there are 21 different model NAMES for the FD3S, and some of those (for example, RZ) have multiple examples that are different!
Now, the first Bathurst was released in 1994 (therefore a version 2 model) and was apparently the \'budget\' version. This initially came as a shock to me, as i thought the Bathurst, being a special edition, would be \'better\'. That said, perhaps the reason it was cheaper was because it had less equipement (and therefore less weight?). Not too sure. Anyway, it\'s full title was the RX-7 Type R2 Bathurst.
Next one was the Bathurst released in 1995 (version 3) which was followed later in the year by the Bathurst X. The latter is intersting, as it has a full \'touring\' interior pack - luxury seats etc. Not certain but i think they might be red leather.
Then we have the 1996 models. These are nice, all 265bhp (up 10bhp from old models) with lots of little, but important extras. Round tail-lights, new computer, green dash illumination (instead of amber) and a few more bits i can\'t remember! Anyway, there was a Type RB Bathurst, and a RB Bathurst X. No idea what the difference was, but again, they were the least expensive variation to buy new...but also only available in limited numbers.
Finally, there was a Type R Bathurst R (!) released in 2001. This one was great - special colour, mazdaspeed carbon-effect dash, height adjustable dampers.
Think that\'s the lot of \'em. Seems like they were intended as a \'budget\' line of the rex, although they are rare as not a great deal were produced. Prob best to ask one of the more knowledgeable peeps here though!
Having said that, all versions of the FD are awesome, and with a few mods become very similar in function and looks. Spent a long time looking at various models and specs, but i think now that mileage and condition probably take precedent over special model designation! Anyway, hope some of that was useful to you, and best of luck with the search mate!
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: scooby_si on June 21, 2004, 06:05:02 PM
Post by: scooby_si on June 21, 2004, 06:05:02 PM
ooh that\'s interesting didn\'t know all that but figured the bathurst was the relatively lesser equiped ones, although as you say there\'s a mass of options so are there any 2 exactly the same......
I had just presumed my lights had been changed thou what year did the other models get round rear lights?
Will check my dashboard thou didn\'t realise i had a different colour as a 96 "4th Revision Type R Bathurst" model although mine didnt even have the relative basics like the strut braces so i\'ll c if i wana bulk it back up again with them
lol
Si
I had just presumed my lights had been changed thou what year did the other models get round rear lights?
Will check my dashboard thou didn\'t realise i had a different colour as a 96 "4th Revision Type R Bathurst" model although mine didnt even have the relative basics like the strut braces so i\'ll c if i wana bulk it back up again with them
lolSi
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: scooby_si on June 21, 2004, 06:20:42 PM
Post by: scooby_si on June 21, 2004, 06:20:42 PM
doh my ignorance was catching up with me again 
95/96 got the much better looking rear lights i believe.......
Si
95/96 got the much better looking rear lights i believe.......Si
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: s.g on June 21, 2004, 07:04:38 PM
Post by: s.g on June 21, 2004, 07:04:38 PM
well what can i say lots of info,thanks people for the help, the only problem is i am not going for this car now. the reason is, it was supposed to have slight damage and damaged suspension but he didn\'t mention the car needed a big jig as well.so back to looking
cheers again
s.g:3gears-rh
cheers again
s.g:3gears-rh
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: moakesr on June 21, 2004, 09:01:41 PM
Post by: moakesr on June 21, 2004, 09:01:41 PM
Excellent information FDDreamer.
I had my VIN checked, it came back as a Bathurst edition, and the fact that it is a 1994 car means it must be an R2 Bathurst.
Equipment wise, it came without rear seats, had strut braces front and rear, Bilstein shocks and twin oil coolers.
Those are amongst the most desirable factory performance options, so I was pretty pleased.
It\'s nice to know which version I have, it\'s cleared up a small mystery.
Richard
I had my VIN checked, it came back as a Bathurst edition, and the fact that it is a 1994 car means it must be an R2 Bathurst.
Equipment wise, it came without rear seats, had strut braces front and rear, Bilstein shocks and twin oil coolers.
Those are amongst the most desirable factory performance options, so I was pretty pleased.
It\'s nice to know which version I have, it\'s cleared up a small mystery.
Richard
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: Shark on June 21, 2004, 11:10:32 PM
Post by: Shark on June 21, 2004, 11:10:32 PM
Excellent info indeed.
Moakesr,
How do I check the VIN number to see exactly what I\'ve got?
QuoteThen we have the 1996 models. These are nice, all 265bhp (up 10bhp from old models) with lots of little, but important extras. Round tail-lights, new computer, green dash illumination (instead of amber) and a few more bits i can\'t remember!Iwas told when I bought the car it\'s a Type RB, but I presumed the green illumination was the same on all FD\'s.
Moakesr,
How do I check the VIN number to see exactly what I\'ve got?
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: rxangus on June 22, 2004, 07:46:10 AM
Post by: rxangus on June 22, 2004, 07:46:10 AM
Mine\'s a 96 with chassis no 400xxx so one of the first 16 bit ECUs. I believe it\'s a type R-B (R-Bathurst).
It\'s got the round tail lights, green dash illumination and revised standard spoiler.
265BHP due to the 16 bit ECU and no rat\'s nest!!!
Cheers
Angus
It\'s got the round tail lights, green dash illumination and revised standard spoiler.
265BHP due to the 16 bit ECU and no rat\'s nest!!!
Cheers
Angus
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: FDDreamer on June 22, 2004, 11:07:49 AM
Post by: FDDreamer on June 22, 2004, 11:07:49 AM
Well it\'s just stuff I\'ve learned here...didn\'t know an FC from an FD before finding the forums! Can\'t really take any credit for the info - it\'s guys like Brian who deserve it! Just happy it was of help! :)
Yeah, it was \'96 that the FD got the now-trademark circular clusters. Think it was at the very start of the year (jan/feb) which is why sometimes there\'s some confusion as to whether it was \'95 or \'96. What year is your beastie Si? How is it coming along by the way?
s.g...sorry to hear that. But it\'s all part of the fun! Think it\'s a bit like building a lego model, some of the fun is getting to what you want in the first place! :p But seriously, i\'ve heard many many times that it really pays to be patient and hold out for the right one. And the same for buying a rex! :D
Sounds like you either lucked out or you knew exactly what you were after, Richard! That\'s a whole lot of v desireable gear you have there. Even some of the \'99 spec models are without twin oil coolers, and Bilstein suspension is the cream of the crop! Congrats bud! :)
As far as the dash goes, i\'m pretty sure that versions 1-3 (december \'91-december \'95) had a amber backlit display...a little like an M3 nowadays. Would like to see some pics, but green sounds nicer!
Angus...you may well be right. The only complication is that the Version 4\'s had a lot of models - including the Type RB AND the Type RB Bathurst!! Very confusing. Interestingly, the Bathurst variant was actually more expensive on it\'s release than the RB! :confused:
Check this link out guys, has a nice interior piccy of the Type R Bathurst R. Looks luurvely!
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1070
Yeah, it was \'96 that the FD got the now-trademark circular clusters. Think it was at the very start of the year (jan/feb) which is why sometimes there\'s some confusion as to whether it was \'95 or \'96. What year is your beastie Si? How is it coming along by the way?
s.g...sorry to hear that. But it\'s all part of the fun! Think it\'s a bit like building a lego model, some of the fun is getting to what you want in the first place! :p But seriously, i\'ve heard many many times that it really pays to be patient and hold out for the right one. And the same for buying a rex! :D
Sounds like you either lucked out or you knew exactly what you were after, Richard! That\'s a whole lot of v desireable gear you have there. Even some of the \'99 spec models are without twin oil coolers, and Bilstein suspension is the cream of the crop! Congrats bud! :)
As far as the dash goes, i\'m pretty sure that versions 1-3 (december \'91-december \'95) had a amber backlit display...a little like an M3 nowadays. Would like to see some pics, but green sounds nicer!
Angus...you may well be right. The only complication is that the Version 4\'s had a lot of models - including the Type RB AND the Type RB Bathurst!! Very confusing. Interestingly, the Bathurst variant was actually more expensive on it\'s release than the RB! :confused:
Check this link out guys, has a nice interior piccy of the Type R Bathurst R. Looks luurvely!
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1070
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: moakesr on June 22, 2004, 12:27:15 PM
Post by: moakesr on June 22, 2004, 12:27:15 PM
Try http://www.usaveauto.co.uk/ and click the vehicle check button, they don\'t give you a lot of into, but it is free.
I think that I was very lucky, the car was in pristine condition with no modifications at all. The previous owner in Japan had really looked after it.
I can confirm that on a 1994 Bathurst R2, the dash illumination is red/amber.
Richard
I think that I was very lucky, the car was in pristine condition with no modifications at all. The previous owner in Japan had really looked after it.
I can confirm that on a 1994 Bathurst R2, the dash illumination is red/amber.
Richard
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: scooby_si on June 22, 2004, 12:42:14 PM
Post by: scooby_si on June 22, 2004, 12:42:14 PM
mines apparently a type R Bathurst which i could never work out if that was sam as RB or wotever it\'s all good & tiz a late, Oct i think \'96 & is coming along nicely now (he says dont quote me on that if i start getting the crying smilies out o just b4 Thoresby this weekend) being painted tomorrow so should get polished Thursday & then have Fri & Sat to get the other ;) bits put on :D all in theory i aint holding my breathe any more till i actually get the keys.....
Si
Si
Title: No rats nest?
Post by: MillSpeed on June 22, 2004, 03:13:28 PM
Post by: MillSpeed on June 22, 2004, 03:13:28 PM
rxangus, how come your car\'s got no rats nest? Are the later 16-bit cars non-sequetial?
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: rxangus on June 22, 2004, 04:10:34 PM
Post by: rxangus on June 22, 2004, 04:10:34 PM
No they are still sequential but all solenoids are in one assembly under the intake manifold to simplify things. Still complicated but no rat\'s nest....
Unfortunately if one solenoid goes, they all need to be changed as I have just discovered to my cost.
Angus
Unfortunately if one solenoid goes, they all need to be changed as I have just discovered to my cost.
Angus
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: FDDreamer on June 22, 2004, 04:20:45 PM
Post by: FDDreamer on June 22, 2004, 04:20:45 PM
\'Other bits\' Si??? You\'re still keeping it all hush-hush then? :) well look forward to some pics! Wondering if the smilie-style is gonna make a re-appearance? :D
Good luck for getting it all back and done ASAP! I\'m STILL waiting for the contracts to be fully exchanged, but getting closer apparently. Can\'t understand how forwarding a piece of paper takes 2 weeks. Maybe they deliver it via an RX-7, which is why they charge me ££££ for every letter i request to be sent, so as to pay the fuel bill! :D
Anyways, i\'m hoping that it\'ll happen before i\'ve knawed my arm off in frustration...or else i may need to opt for an auto! :rollin
And cheers for the info, Richard! Another little note to scribble down in case a topic like this surfaces again. By the way, did you import the car personally? Or through a dealer? Or did you get it privately after it\'d been imported? And do you think i could have phrased that any worse?!
Good luck for getting it all back and done ASAP! I\'m STILL waiting for the contracts to be fully exchanged, but getting closer apparently. Can\'t understand how forwarding a piece of paper takes 2 weeks. Maybe they deliver it via an RX-7, which is why they charge me ££££ for every letter i request to be sent, so as to pay the fuel bill! :D
Anyways, i\'m hoping that it\'ll happen before i\'ve knawed my arm off in frustration...or else i may need to opt for an auto! :rollin
And cheers for the info, Richard! Another little note to scribble down in case a topic like this surfaces again. By the way, did you import the car personally? Or through a dealer? Or did you get it privately after it\'d been imported? And do you think i could have phrased that any worse?!
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: moakesr on June 22, 2004, 04:52:31 PM
Post by: moakesr on June 22, 2004, 04:52:31 PM
The car was gleaming, rotating on a turnstile inside a dealer showroom. That dealership has now sadly gone bust, I heard that the proprietor had an unfortunate car accident, killed some people as a result, and ended up at her majestys pleasure.
It was one of those moments when no matter what it cost, and boy did it cost, I had to have it. I did a deal wherby if Rotechniks passed it as ok, I would buy it, if they failed it then the dealer got the report for free.
Three hours and a lot of testing later the deal was done, and I drove it away the following weekend.
I had no idea what I had bought, it just seemed to be destiny and that was the beginning.
This was all in 1998, it\'s been a long road since then.
Richard
It was one of those moments when no matter what it cost, and boy did it cost, I had to have it. I did a deal wherby if Rotechniks passed it as ok, I would buy it, if they failed it then the dealer got the report for free.
Three hours and a lot of testing later the deal was done, and I drove it away the following weekend.
I had no idea what I had bought, it just seemed to be destiny and that was the beginning.
This was all in 1998, it\'s been a long road since then.
Richard
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: FDDreamer on June 22, 2004, 05:41:56 PM
Post by: FDDreamer on June 22, 2004, 05:41:56 PM
Wow. I can imagine how impressive it must have looked spinning there before your very eyes! No wonder you felt obliged to reach for the wallet. Sure it was money well spent.
Just looking for as many stories as poss before i\'m finally in a position to buy my own...thinking that asking Miguel/Brian/Ben to source me one might be best, it pretty much eliminates the chance of picking up an unhealthy rex as they know exactly what they\'re looking for. Of course, it\'s also the longest way...but i\'ve already been waiting a few months for the sale of a property of mine to go through (hence the mind-numbing delay) so another few won\'t hurt!
Just looking for as many stories as poss before i\'m finally in a position to buy my own...thinking that asking Miguel/Brian/Ben to source me one might be best, it pretty much eliminates the chance of picking up an unhealthy rex as they know exactly what they\'re looking for. Of course, it\'s also the longest way...but i\'ve already been waiting a few months for the sale of a property of mine to go through (hence the mind-numbing delay) so another few won\'t hurt!
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: scooby_si on June 22, 2004, 05:58:13 PM
Post by: scooby_si on June 22, 2004, 05:58:13 PM
nothing major on the secrets front & probably wont have my main toys fitted for this weekend but a few all going well.....(Si trys not to get ahead of himself again 
the lack of smilies is more when i\'m at work 
& barely have enough time to read all the new posts at Dinner time (read damn boss keeps walking in how selfish 
lmfao) but dont worry i\'ll still make up for it when i\'m home & hmmm this smilie-style you mention has me thinking about my car (http://www.salacious.de/Smiliez/sonstiges/Autos/auto567.gif) (innocent whistle mode strikes again 
lol)
Si
PS can you buy a portable car rotator to bring to the shows that\'d be cool (shhh in case OJ hears
.....lol)
the lack of smilies is more when i\'m at work & barely have enough time to read all the new posts at Dinner time (read damn boss keeps walking in how selfish lmfao) but dont worry i\'ll still make up for it when i\'m home & hmmm this smilie-style you mention has me thinking about my car (http://www.salacious.de/Smiliez/sonstiges/Autos/auto567.gif) (innocent whistle mode strikes again lol)Si
PS can you buy a portable car rotator to bring to the shows that\'d be cool (shhh in case OJ hears
.....lol)
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: moakesr on June 22, 2004, 06:00:44 PM
Post by: moakesr on June 22, 2004, 06:00:44 PM
QuotePS can you buy a portable car rotator to bring to the shows that\'d be cool (shhh in case OJ hears .....lol)
If anyone can find one, then \'Bish will. It would be very cool :D
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: scooby_si on June 22, 2004, 06:11:11 PM
Post by: scooby_si on June 22, 2004, 06:11:11 PM
here\'s the type SB:
smilie bathurst :god lol
Si
smilie bathurst :god lol
Si
Title: bathurst edition
Post by: FDDreamer on June 23, 2004, 10:57:42 AM
Post by: FDDreamer on June 23, 2004, 10:57:42 AM
:rollin and so the total name count for the 3rd gen rises to 22! Think we could get that one registered at the Ultimate Car Page too? :rollin
Know what you mean about work too...luckily i\'m in my own lil corner so it\'s not too bad, and besides it keeps me in high spirits throughout the day! :)
Heh think maybe you should patent SmilieStyle, sure you\'d make a fortune! And brighten up the day for any of the general public lucky enough to see you out and about. AND it\'d probably put an instant end to road rage!! :rollin
Would you be able to find a pocket sized rex rotary display unit on inspector-gadget.com?
Know what you mean about work too...luckily i\'m in my own lil corner so it\'s not too bad, and besides it keeps me in high spirits throughout the day! :)
Heh think maybe you should patent SmilieStyle, sure you\'d make a fortune! And brighten up the day for any of the general public lucky enough to see you out and about. AND it\'d probably put an instant end to road rage!! :rollin
Would you be able to find a pocket sized rex rotary display unit on inspector-gadget.com?