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Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 09, 2011, 12:44:08 PM
Well its about time my RX7 deserved an oil change. already ordered a HKS oil filter so just need oil, is there any oil that you guys reccomend? Also how much is needed? Where is the sump? Is there a sump?
 
Also where in the car do you fill up the oil because there are so many screw tops everywhere i dont know which one it is? If someone can point this out for me that would be great :)
 
I would be able to provide you guys with a pic of my engine if it helps?
 
Thanks :WaveBye
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 09, 2011, 12:47:36 PM
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Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: fil_auto on June 09, 2011, 12:52:05 PM
Matt - there are FDUKIN hundreds of threads and post about oil / changing the oil... the search button is your friend ;)
On this occasion, I\'ll direct you...... 5W-30 mineral oil - cheapy cheapy is fine ;)
Of course there\'s a sump! and the drain nut is on it ;)
Fill up via the oil filler neck - directly in front of the throttle body ;)
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: SiH on June 09, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
...and cancel the order on the ridiculously overpriced oil filter, and just use Halfords/Fram/AN Other.

Oil cap is on the passenger side of the engine, just behind the strut brace.
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: AtomicRex on June 09, 2011, 01:37:30 PM
Or even a Mazda OE one.  They are only £6.05+VAT!
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 09, 2011, 02:56:29 PM
Thanks for the help guys! I should have really searched on the forum i didnt realise im still new to this..
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: Ows on June 09, 2011, 04:01:16 PM
Looks to me like you have a nice red HKS oil filler cap :-)
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: HaywardRotary on June 09, 2011, 04:11:38 PM
Use 10/40 mineral oil not 5/30.
Regards
Carl
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 09, 2011, 04:46:53 PM
Hi Ows - Yes you are right its a genuine HKS oil filler cap, i have gone for the HKS oil filter aswell just to match haha!
Hi Carl - Thanks mate i will go for that oil, i was told it would be better using mineral oil rather than semi synthetic. Do i need about 4.5 litres of the stuff i presume?
Also Carl im not too sure whether you are aware that my RX7 is having a bit of a boost problem when accelerating as it gets a bit jittery if you put your foot down, if you gently ease on the acceleration she seems to be run fine but the pull doesnt come until much later (like a delay) the helpful guys on here presume its down to a boost solenoid failure. Im having it in WGT on 25th June and they said they would need to dyno her (im a little worried about this as i read RX7\'s dont like the dyno) do you think thgis may be the problem? If you need any more info just ask! Your expertise is always welcomed mate. :)
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: rx-dave on June 12, 2011, 09:33:57 AM
Matt, the lad who sold you the car has only just changed the oil so i wouldn\'t rush to much to do it. He used Halfords mineral oil if you need to top up :Thumbs-up
Dave.
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: m1tch on June 12, 2011, 10:46:10 AM
I agree with not bothering with the overpriced oil filter, I have a generic oil filter on the car, it won\'t be on there for many miles (usually change oil every 3-5k miles) also look for a \'fumoto oil drain valve\' which is basically a tap for the sump, it replaces the sump bolt and means that I don\'t even need to jack my car up to change the oil, just put the container under, reach under, open the tap, drain oil, close tap, refil and replace oil filter :) don\'t even bother with gloves as theres no mess

(http://www.puredieselpower.com/catalog/images/fumotovalve.jpg)
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: Tedrux on June 12, 2011, 11:07:16 AM
Thanks Mitch, I\'m gonna have to get one of these, same all that messing around. Where did you buy it?
 
Quote from: m1tch;768394I agree with not bothering with the overpriced oil filter, I have a generic oil filter on the car, it won\'t be on there for many miles (usually change oil every 3-5k miles) also look for a \'fumoto oil drain valve\' which is basically a tap for the sump, it replaces the sump bolt and means that I don\'t even need to jack my car up to change the oil, just put the container under, reach under, open the tap, drain oil, close tap, refil and replace oil filter :) don\'t even bother with gloves as theres no mess
 
(http://www.puredieselpower.com/catalog/images/fumotovalve.jpg)
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: m1tch on June 12, 2011, 11:44:50 AM
I got mine from the states as they were hard to get when I bought mine, it seems you need an F-106 (you can see other options - some have an extended nozzle)

http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=160

I just have a regular one on my FC, not sure if the sump is different on an FD though.

I would check ebay, as there might be more in the UK now
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 13, 2011, 05:34:20 PM
Hey Dave, i saw what you have wrote about the previous owner has already changed the oil.. when i inspected the oil it was completely black and looks like it had only been topped up not a full oil change. I have opted to do the oil and the filter and sparkplugs myself that way i know they are definitely done (just for peace of mind) I stil cant find those damn blasted sparkplugs though, i found one but no sign of the others..found everything else though lol. does anyone have a photo of where they are please?
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: m1tch on June 13, 2011, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: matthewbellamy;768743Hey Dave, i saw what you have wrote about the previous owner has already changed the oil.. when i inspected the oil it was completely black and looks like it had only been topped up not a full oil change. I have opted to do the oil and the filter and sparkplugs myself that way i know they are definitely done (just for peace of mind) I stil cant find those damn blasted sparkplugs though, i found one but no sign of the others..found everything else though lol. does anyone have a photo of where they are please?

As in you can\'t find replacement plugs (mazda rotary parts) or you can\'t physically find the spark plugs on the engine? All 4 are on the passenger side of the engine, can be quite tricky to get to - they are on my FC as I have a massive ABS pump in the way lol perhaps just trace the HT leads down?
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 13, 2011, 06:34:30 PM
Hi Mitch, yep i cannot find them physically, i went out to the car and i looked under the bonnet p/s and i can only find one....its just started raining now...typical lol
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: Dehs on June 13, 2011, 07:15:58 PM
The plugs are in a row on the passenger side of the engine.  There are two quite close about a third of the way down, and the other two are close, another third under that.  I found that they are a total pain to get proper access to unless you know exactly where to look.  If you can, it might be worth trying to do it from underneith
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 13, 2011, 07:22:41 PM
Thanks Dehs :) Ill give it a go this weekend, i got some Champion ones to put in (ebay, brand new for like under a tenner for a set of 4 woop!!)
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: wolfie1 on June 13, 2011, 07:30:38 PM
are you sure they are the right ones, if they only cost you a tenner for 4?
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: Dehs on June 13, 2011, 07:38:49 PM
No worries matt, and yeah, a tenner sounds a little cheap to me, but idk?
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 13, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
i got the link here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280690190432&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: Dehs on June 13, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
They look legit to me... he has plenty of feedback for other spark-plug sales, and if they are old stock, it would explain the price... would probably be beneficial if someone with knowledge of these plugs were able to post...
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: m1tch on June 13, 2011, 08:35:28 PM
RX7 plugs are NGK and are about £8 each, I wouldn\'t want electrodes pointing inside the rotor housing!
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 13, 2011, 08:39:35 PM
M1tch could it be potentially bad if i use these??
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: philiwily on June 13, 2011, 08:45:59 PM
They aren\'t the right plugs. Turbo engines get a lot hotter inside the combustion chamber than N/A engines.
If you need to save money buy NGK BUR9EQ instead of BUR9EQP.
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: philiwily on June 13, 2011, 08:47:42 PM
Mitch you beat me to it, I got side tracked.
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: m1tch on June 13, 2011, 08:51:18 PM
Note the end of the plugs - nothing to get in the way of the spinning rotor or to fall into the housing!

(http://www.dragtimes.com/images-classifieds-large/RX7-FD3S-NGK-PLATINUM-SPARK-PLUGS-BUR7EQP-BUR9EQP-SET-for-sale_370486940895.jpg)
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: matthewbellamy on June 13, 2011, 08:59:19 PM
Ah well back on ebay they go lol..infact would i be able to get my money back as he mis-sold me them as for RX7 and they arent?
Title: Oil Change Advice
Post by: m1tch on June 13, 2011, 11:12:35 PM
I have seen one set of RX7 plugs that did have electrodes, which are the HKS iridium ones which seem to have a pertruding electrode, but I wouldn\'t want to run it, its why the plugs are expensive