Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 28, 2011, 02:26:28 PM
Post by: re japi on May 28, 2011, 02:26:28 PM
Ok, my brothers -84 RX-7 is home from storage. It has been waiting for 5 years now. Its time to start building it again, finaly... :)
There´s lots and lots to do. But ill try to update as often as i can.
I really want to hear that 9000rpm sound soon! ;)
There´s lots and lots to do. But ill try to update as often as i can.
I really want to hear that 9000rpm sound soon! ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Steve-A on May 29, 2011, 11:07:56 AM
Post by: Steve-A on May 29, 2011, 11:07:56 AM
Cool project :)
I\'ve not seen those wheels before, I presume they\'re aftermarket? Have you got much rust to deal with, or is it a case of put it back together and make faster? What\'s your brothers plan for her?
Looking forward to more pictures :)
I\'ve not seen those wheels before, I presume they\'re aftermarket? Have you got much rust to deal with, or is it a case of put it back together and make faster? What\'s your brothers plan for her?
Looking forward to more pictures :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 29, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
Post by: re japi on May 29, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
Not sure about those wheels. But we were told that they were secondary wheels with winter tyres. Primary wheels are those rotor looking things. Amazing thing is that they are in very good condition. :)
She is still in very very good condition. No rust at all. I swear that she is in better condition than my Beemers! :)
Well, still lots of work. Rollcage, welding(to make her more harder), modifications for axels, rebuild the engine, new diff, remowe old electric, lose more weight, rebuild brakes and cluch...
We do have carbonfibre bodypanel models ready but we might have to do them again... :(
She is still in very very good condition. No rust at all. I swear that she is in better condition than my Beemers! :)
Well, still lots of work. Rollcage, welding(to make her more harder), modifications for axels, rebuild the engine, new diff, remowe old electric, lose more weight, rebuild brakes and cluch...
We do have carbonfibre bodypanel models ready but we might have to do them again... :(
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: CHC (RIP) on May 29, 2011, 07:20:06 PM
Post by: CHC (RIP) on May 29, 2011, 07:20:06 PM
Quite like the look of the secondaries too but those rotar rims are really nice - had a chance to buy a set last year but had other priorities to deal with.
Looks sturdy enough already and good to hear she is solid.
Keep the photos coming and things develop (another Gold resto there Steve)
Ta
Cliff
Looks sturdy enough already and good to hear she is solid.
Keep the photos coming and things develop (another Gold resto there Steve)
Ta
Cliff
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 30, 2011, 04:31:54 AM
Post by: re japi on May 30, 2011, 04:31:54 AM
Yes, and those rims are in very good condition. Rotor rims are good too. I wonder how much money they are worth...? :)
Just checked, she only has about 145000km on the clock. When my brother bought it, she had 113000. Engine braked in about 120k km. Carb was broken and tuned wrong. Then engine was rebuilded and ported. And carb was rebuilded too. After that she was my brothers everyday driver for 1 and half years. Then my bros race car broked and rx became a project. First modifications were custom intake and carbs and custom headersand and exhaust.
Just checked, she only has about 145000km on the clock. When my brother bought it, she had 113000. Engine braked in about 120k km. Carb was broken and tuned wrong. Then engine was rebuilded and ported. And carb was rebuilded too. After that she was my brothers everyday driver for 1 and half years. Then my bros race car broked and rx became a project. First modifications were custom intake and carbs and custom headersand and exhaust.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: CHC (RIP) on May 30, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
Post by: CHC (RIP) on May 30, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
The set I was looking @ were to be imported from Japan and the price was (door to door) between 350 - 400 GBP and the condition was excellent.
Current pricing - at the end of the day they are only worth what somebody is prepared to pay for them
Ta
Cliff
Current pricing - at the end of the day they are only worth what somebody is prepared to pay for them
Ta
Cliff
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 30, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
Post by: re japi on May 30, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
Wow!?!?! 8)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2011, 04:50:46 PM
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2011, 04:50:46 PM
Ok, need advice. What kind of diff? She needs some kind of LSD or lockdif. 1.5way maybe...? Manufacturers and/or what your choice would be...?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 27, 2011, 05:17:13 AM
Post by: re japi on July 27, 2011, 05:17:13 AM
Ok, my brother is considering to swap rebuilded renesis engine and gearbox to her. Seems like good idea at this point. We have talked and thought about it, alot. Does anyone have heard about using carbs at renesis engine?
And another question: 13b NA engines. If you do porting or heavy porting on it, does old ECU works, at all? And can old ECU be re-mapped?
And another question: 13b NA engines. If you do porting or heavy porting on it, does old ECU works, at all? And can old ECU be re-mapped?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Steve-A on July 27, 2011, 09:20:38 AM
Post by: Steve-A on July 27, 2011, 09:20:38 AM
If you\'ve got an rx8 engine and box, I\'d have thought the best best would be to transplant all the fuel injection gear, loom and ecu from the rx8.
If you do any porting the old ECU wont have the right map in it. I\'m not sure if you can get the old one remapped, but I suggest you\'d be best going for one of the commonly used aftermarket ECUs for their extra features and tune-ability.
If you do any porting the old ECU wont have the right map in it. I\'m not sure if you can get the old one remapped, but I suggest you\'d be best going for one of the commonly used aftermarket ECUs for their extra features and tune-ability.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Will66 on July 27, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
Post by: Will66 on July 27, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
FB with an RX8 engine would be immense! The 192 would probably be the easier one to manage since it\'s not got the control system for the auxillary ports to worry about. Not heard of one running a carb but it should be possible, you\'d need custom manifolds though, as well as a custom exhaust and you\'d need something to control the ignition.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 27, 2011, 05:42:54 PM
Post by: re japi on July 27, 2011, 05:42:54 PM
Problem is that those aftermarket ECU´s are expensive and i dont really know who can tune it here.
Renesis swap should be easy (in theory). Manifolds, exhaust is no problem. And i dont worry about ignition either. We thought alot about transplanting all that electronic crap with the engine, but realized that IT would be difficult. I think that its more simple to do it all oldschool style. No electronics, just basic ignition and massive carbs!
And i heard that in very high revving engines, carbs are easyer to tune. And they will work better in higher revs, compared to ignition. Thats why bikes have carbs
Renesis swap should be easy (in theory). Manifolds, exhaust is no problem. And i dont worry about ignition either. We thought alot about transplanting all that electronic crap with the engine, but realized that IT would be difficult. I think that its more simple to do it all oldschool style. No electronics, just basic ignition and massive carbs!
And i heard that in very high revving engines, carbs are easyer to tune. And they will work better in higher revs, compared to ignition. Thats why bikes have carbs
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Will66 on July 27, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
Post by: Will66 on July 27, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
I\'m not sure the RX8 has the ability to run a distributor but since it\'s fundamentally not that different from a 12a, if you could make an ignition system for it you should be able to make it run.
Carbs are easier to make run as they don\'t require a high pressure fuel rail and precision control of the fuel feed. It\'s why they\'re more popular for DIY stuff. Plenty of high revving bikes run fuel injection.
Carbs are easier to make run as they don\'t require a high pressure fuel rail and precision control of the fuel feed. It\'s why they\'re more popular for DIY stuff. Plenty of high revving bikes run fuel injection.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 28, 2011, 04:33:11 AM
Post by: re japi on July 28, 2011, 04:33:11 AM
Oh, i mean injection, not ignition... :)
Ya, dont know difference, i havent seen Renesis engine so close. But im pretty sure that it can be done DIY.
I have tryed to hunt donor car for few days now. Found few, even if chassis is in very bad condition, they are expencive... :(
Ya, dont know difference, i havent seen Renesis engine so close. But im pretty sure that it can be done DIY.
I have tryed to hunt donor car for few days now. Found few, even if chassis is in very bad condition, they are expencive... :(
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 03, 2011, 04:24:54 AM
Post by: re japi on August 03, 2011, 04:24:54 AM
Ok, finally some good news from AKK (national federation of motorsports). Rules are now modified so they allowes rotarys, in stock displacement. And we where supriced cause they approved 13b engines also. Limit in national rallycross series is 2050cc and 13b with multiplier 1,7 is much bigger.
In process of fighting against AKK, my friend did get few supporters to rotarys also. :) So, in few years there will be few more rotary powered cars racing in that series. My friends Lada 2107, maybe another Lada, Volvo PV544 and hopefully my brothers FB. :)
Then some bad news. My friend decided that he wont be braking apart his Lada, again. He just managed to get that thing work. Good setups and so on. He started to build another car, just for that rotary engine.
So Mr.Hayward, im sorry but our little project is onhold now, for a year i think. :( I really wanted so your engine here in next season. But i understand my friend, he wants to build the best possible car for that engine...
In process of fighting against AKK, my friend did get few supporters to rotarys also. :) So, in few years there will be few more rotary powered cars racing in that series. My friends Lada 2107, maybe another Lada, Volvo PV544 and hopefully my brothers FB. :)
Then some bad news. My friend decided that he wont be braking apart his Lada, again. He just managed to get that thing work. Good setups and so on. He started to build another car, just for that rotary engine.
So Mr.Hayward, im sorry but our little project is onhold now, for a year i think. :( I really wanted so your engine here in next season. But i understand my friend, he wants to build the best possible car for that engine...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 03, 2011, 04:32:22 AM
Post by: re japi on August 03, 2011, 04:32:22 AM
Here is only Rotary powered car in our National rallycross seriers. Toyota Starlet with Swedish build 12a PP. Engines displacement has been modified to smaller because of our old rules.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 21, 2011, 05:08:05 AM
Post by: re japi on August 21, 2011, 05:08:05 AM
Ok, there is Mazda 1500 -67 in sale near me. I have few questions if someone can answer them:
Mazda was building this car with 1500cc, 1800cc engine and with rotary(Luce). I need to know similaritys of those models? Brakes, suspension, all those and chassis components, are they compatible? Gearbox and rearend, diff? And can i swap components from other older Mazdas, like rx7 or 626?
I was thinking that i would build street sleeper, with 12A engine. But i need to upgrade lots of components, cause our laws to get it street legal.
Thanks
Mazda was building this car with 1500cc, 1800cc engine and with rotary(Luce). I need to know similaritys of those models? Brakes, suspension, all those and chassis components, are they compatible? Gearbox and rearend, diff? And can i swap components from other older Mazdas, like rx7 or 626?
I was thinking that i would build street sleeper, with 12A engine. But i need to upgrade lots of components, cause our laws to get it street legal.
Thanks
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 21, 2011, 05:13:09 AM
Post by: re japi on August 21, 2011, 05:13:09 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_1500
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: A7RXY on August 21, 2011, 12:24:59 PM
Post by: A7RXY on August 21, 2011, 12:24:59 PM
I owned an 1800 estate back in 72, I remember it was a great car in its time, but I have to say thats all I can remember.
Dibs
Dibs
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2011, 04:47:26 PM
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2011, 04:47:26 PM
Ok, diff is off. Waiting repair. And all the other stuff is off the car too, it almost bare body now.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2011, 04:54:57 PM
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2011, 04:54:57 PM
Last sunday i went to Ahvenisto racetrack. (i live quite near it) Big event, Historic Grand Race. Lots of awesome old cars in track and in carpark. Noticed that NSU RO80. It was amazing! Took over 1500 hours to rebuild! And craftmanship was amazing. Talked with owner/builder for some time. It has "semiautomatic" gearbox and 900cc aviation engine. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
Post by: re japi on August 28, 2011, 05:05:15 PM
Some other cars from that event:
Black Chevy was looks and sounds mad. Look at those rubbers! :) and behind those tires was LOTS of burned rubber... ;)
My friends -67 fastback Mustang 289 and other friends -67 Camaro 400
My third freinds SVT Cobra "mystic" Mustang and some elder dudes amazing hot rod with massive bigblock(452)
And very old Harley. I think it was -29
Black Chevy was looks and sounds mad. Look at those rubbers! :) and behind those tires was LOTS of burned rubber... ;)
My friends -67 fastback Mustang 289 and other friends -67 Camaro 400
My third freinds SVT Cobra "mystic" Mustang and some elder dudes amazing hot rod with massive bigblock(452)
And very old Harley. I think it was -29
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: A7RXY on August 28, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
Post by: A7RXY on August 28, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
love that Mustang, thats the car I\'ve always wanted to own. Do you have any more photos of it.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 29, 2011, 06:41:22 AM
Post by: re japi on August 29, 2011, 06:41:22 AM
Sorry, dont have more photos of it. :)
Me and my brother started to plan a trip to Newbury,UK. About 480€, 3days. Flights, car rent, hotel. :(
Me and my brother started to plan a trip to Newbury,UK. About 480€, 3days. Flights, car rent, hotel. :(
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 12, 2011, 03:29:57 AM
Post by: re japi on September 12, 2011, 03:29:57 AM
Last saturday was Rallycross finals in Hyvinkää, Finland. Nice event.
Winner of Supercars and winner of SRCs class championship was open. In last final they knew who is champion. Racing at its best, lots of fighting for positions. :)
Managed to "spy" that rotary Starlets engine too. :eek I just love it...
Few pictures of it...
I have some clips of that event too. Ill try to post a link...
Winner of Supercars and winner of SRCs class championship was open. In last final they knew who is champion. Racing at its best, lots of fighting for positions. :)
Managed to "spy" that rotary Starlets engine too. :eek I just love it...
Few pictures of it...
I have some clips of that event too. Ill try to post a link...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 23, 2011, 04:39:32 AM
Post by: re japi on September 23, 2011, 04:39:32 AM
Super Rallycross Hyvinkää Finland 10.9.2011
http://youtu.be/3cXabyQRg-M
http://youtu.be/4WwSdWYUUi8
http://youtu.be/NVrTY2NWnOQ
Some clips from that event. :)
http://youtu.be/3cXabyQRg-M
http://youtu.be/4WwSdWYUUi8
http://youtu.be/NVrTY2NWnOQ
Some clips from that event. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 16, 2011, 11:33:37 AM
Post by: re japi on October 16, 2011, 11:33:37 AM
My brother did buy another RX-7, -94 FD3S! :) Quite stock, running original turbos without seqvential and 1bar boost. Just amazing machine!
Im praying that i can test drive it asap! 8) He said (after short test) that engine and mapping seems good. Power comes in low rews, and theres lots of power. :)
But little help needed. Where can i find Apex´i +commander´s manual? He didnt get it, so is it possible to get from internet?
Im praying that i can test drive it asap! 8) He said (after short test) that engine and mapping seems good. Power comes in low rews, and theres lots of power. :)
But little help needed. Where can i find Apex´i +commander´s manual? He didnt get it, so is it possible to get from internet?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 17, 2011, 05:34:43 AM
Post by: re japi on October 17, 2011, 05:34:43 AM
Another question: Car has Tein Super drift coilovers. Does anyone knows difference between them and Race spec coilovers?? I imagine that springs are different, but how about dambers?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 15, 2011, 04:40:52 AM
Post by: re japi on November 15, 2011, 04:40:52 AM
I did find that Apexà manual. Trying to learn it. Very interesting piece of electrics... And that FD is awesome! I really dont know what power she has, but tires brakes looses traction every time you try to full accelleration... :)
Interesting next season coming in rallycross. :)
That rotary Starlet is on sale. Engine has 270hp/190nm@10800! :)
And my friend told me that few other rotarys should come too. One rotary is planted to mk2 Escort. Rumored to be a Swedish built engine, with 330hp... :)
Interesting next season coming in rallycross. :)
That rotary Starlet is on sale. Engine has 270hp/190nm@10800! :)
And my friend told me that few other rotarys should come too. One rotary is planted to mk2 Escort. Rumored to be a Swedish built engine, with 330hp... :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2011, 04:58:04 PM
My brothers carage. Two projects side by side... -84 and-94 :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2011, 05:01:41 PM
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2011, 05:01:41 PM
Btw, after standing in rain more than month, FD fired up in first start! With motorbike battery... brab brab brab :D
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: rising son on December 02, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
Post by: rising son on December 02, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
awesome cars mate ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2011, 04:09:21 AM
Post by: re japi on December 30, 2011, 04:09:21 AM
FB is almost ready for cutting. And my brother decided that FD rear axle and gearbox will be fitted to FB. Also all the suspension components.
He really wants to use that 13b-rew engine too. Problem is that, that engine has to be NA engine, and we dont know is that possible!? Can we swap rotors to other rotors(like FC´S NA rotors) to make 13b-rew a NA engine???
He really wants to use that 13b-rew engine too. Problem is that, that engine has to be NA engine, and we dont know is that possible!? Can we swap rotors to other rotors(like FC´S NA rotors) to make 13b-rew a NA engine???
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 09, 2012, 04:34:32 AM
Post by: re japi on January 09, 2012, 04:34:32 AM
Axels are out from FD. Ready to be fitted to FB. We were suprized when we realized that FB and FD have exactly same lenght. (from axle to axle) And widht is almost the same, FD is just about 2 cm wider. :)
And seems like he cant use those Tein coilovers. They are just too short. They only have like 8cm area to move...
And seems like he cant use those Tein coilovers. They are just too short. They only have like 8cm area to move...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 18, 2012, 03:05:42 AM
Post by: re japi on January 18, 2012, 03:05:42 AM
http://www.insideline.com/features/collection-of-a-lifetime.html
I just have to show you this! Pictures from 4 time rally champion, Juha Kankkunen, "carage".
I did know that he has awesome collection, but i didnt realize that he has so many and so amazing cars. :)
I just have to show you this! Pictures from 4 time rally champion, Juha Kankkunen, "carage".
I did know that he has awesome collection, but i didnt realize that he has so many and so amazing cars. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2012, 12:01:52 PM
Wow, his garage bill must be massive for heating and power alone!
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 23, 2012, 04:30:18 AM
Post by: re japi on January 23, 2012, 04:30:18 AM
Ya. lol
Well, first WRC rally of this season gone. Interesting race. And interesting season coming. Im really happy to see that Mini is so "ready". They have done good job and hard work is allready showing. Looking forward Swedens race in 3 weeks... :)
Well, first WRC rally of this season gone. Interesting race. And interesting season coming. Im really happy to see that Mini is so "ready". They have done good job and hard work is allready showing. Looking forward Swedens race in 3 weeks... :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 26, 2012, 02:13:19 AM
Post by: re japi on February 26, 2012, 02:13:19 AM
Well, not a rotary but... :)
Little project/toy. I have been doing for few months, just for fun.
I got it from friend, for free. Nissan Sunny -94, 1.6L 16v
Found some rust, but overall condition is good.
Interior is gone, lots of weight saving. Im quessing about 80kg. Front door alone, 8kg of.
Car is done 260t km and engine internals still looks like new. :)
Intake and fuel system looks good. I think that i dont have to do anything to it. Just little porting and increase fuel pressure.
Just starting to port the head... :)
Little project/toy. I have been doing for few months, just for fun.
I got it from friend, for free. Nissan Sunny -94, 1.6L 16v
Found some rust, but overall condition is good.
Interior is gone, lots of weight saving. Im quessing about 80kg. Front door alone, 8kg of.
Car is done 260t km and engine internals still looks like new. :)
Intake and fuel system looks good. I think that i dont have to do anything to it. Just little porting and increase fuel pressure.
Just starting to port the head... :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 03, 2012, 02:57:33 AM
Post by: re japi on July 03, 2012, 02:57:33 AM
Well, little update:
My project Nissan is slowly coming together. So much to do, so little time... :)
My brothers project is procressing too. Last weekend he visited at Haywards. He had lots of fun. So many questions, so little time. ;)
Special big thanks to Carl and boys at Haywards! :)
At the same time, im really :censored::censored::censored::censored:ed because i couldnt come. :( Stupid work and stupid invetory day...
My project Nissan is slowly coming together. So much to do, so little time... :)
My brothers project is procressing too. Last weekend he visited at Haywards. He had lots of fun. So many questions, so little time. ;)
Special big thanks to Carl and boys at Haywards! :)
At the same time, im really :censored::censored::censored::censored:ed because i couldnt come. :( Stupid work and stupid invetory day...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2012, 01:51:22 AM
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2012, 01:51:22 AM
Updates:
Nissan is quite ready. Engine seems good and makes good power. Maybe in a few days i can go to give it a "shakedown". :)
My brothers FB has now Fd`s rear axel. Boot is cutted because it needed more space that we thought. He has build new suspension towers too. Front has custom made (by my bro) axels fitted with Fd´s brakes. Also he purchased custom made (to him) coilovers to front and back. Fd´s steering is ready to be fitted. Rollcage´s main components are orderer and are home waiting to be installed.
Rumours of that car has allready waken some guys. One fella is coming to see that suspension. ;) I have started to hunt some sponsors. Also, saturday we going to go see a bus project, witch is perfect for a motorhome. Previous owner allready started to do that.
Nissan is quite ready. Engine seems good and makes good power. Maybe in a few days i can go to give it a "shakedown". :)
My brothers FB has now Fd`s rear axel. Boot is cutted because it needed more space that we thought. He has build new suspension towers too. Front has custom made (by my bro) axels fitted with Fd´s brakes. Also he purchased custom made (to him) coilovers to front and back. Fd´s steering is ready to be fitted. Rollcage´s main components are orderer and are home waiting to be installed.
Rumours of that car has allready waken some guys. One fella is coming to see that suspension. ;) I have started to hunt some sponsors. Also, saturday we going to go see a bus project, witch is perfect for a motorhome. Previous owner allready started to do that.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2012, 06:55:49 AM
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2012, 06:55:49 AM
Few pics and clips about that Fb on sale. My sorry about that backround noises. Me, my brother and our father talking about that car... :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2012, 07:00:16 AM
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2012, 07:00:16 AM
Didnt load those clips and few pics didnt come either. :( well, ill try again later...
Here is few pics another FB. Havent seen it for a few years now, so i dont know what happened to it
Here is few pics another FB. Havent seen it for a few years now, so i dont know what happened to it
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 02, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
Post by: re japi on February 02, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
I dont understand. Last time i tryed to load clips to this topic and failed. Now i cant load images...? Why, i dont get it...
Tryed to load few updates of my brothers car...
Tryed to load few updates of my brothers car...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on February 03, 2013, 09:29:21 AM
Post by: clive on February 03, 2013, 09:29:21 AM
No idea why you can\'t post pics but if you mail them to me I will put them up for you
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2013, 04:00:48 PM
Post by: Casey on February 03, 2013, 04:00:48 PM
Quote from: re japi;849575Now i cant load images...? Why, i dont get it...
Tryed to load few updates of my brothers car...
I\'ve just checked your forum account permissions and everything is fine, so you should be able to post pics. If it still doesn\'t work, check the image file size isn\'t too large, as the forum will prevent you from posting those.
An alternative - have you got a photobucket (or similar, free) photo-hosting account so you can put links on here to photos you post up there? I hope that makes sense :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 05, 2013, 05:24:09 AM
Post by: re japi on February 05, 2013, 05:24:09 AM
Photos could be too big. I think i have to get that photobucket or something.
Sended those photos to clive´s email. :)
Sended those photos to clive´s email. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on February 05, 2013, 09:16:49 AM
Post by: clive on February 05, 2013, 09:16:49 AM
Pictures for Jarno
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2013, 05:48:53 AM
Post by: re japi on February 06, 2013, 05:48:53 AM
1st and 2nd: FD´s rear end with custom frame.
3rd: Rollcage ready to be welded
4th: Custom made coilovers not in place. (i tryed that he would put them on place for photos, but he said nah...)
5th: Belly of FD. There seems to be something missing here :)
6th: New suspension towers. And massive hole in the boot
7th: Firewall still in its original place. Will move 30cm back
8th: FD is junkyard now :)
9th: Were does these go :)
(thansk Clive :)
3rd: Rollcage ready to be welded
4th: Custom made coilovers not in place. (i tryed that he would put them on place for photos, but he said nah...)
5th: Belly of FD. There seems to be something missing here :)
6th: New suspension towers. And massive hole in the boot
7th: Firewall still in its original place. Will move 30cm back
8th: FD is junkyard now :)
9th: Were does these go :)
(thansk Clive :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2013, 06:40:00 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2013, 06:40:00 AM
Very nice:) is the rear subframe tied into the roll cage? Also the gear box? That way you don\'t need the crappy ppf from the fd:D;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2013, 05:18:16 AM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2013, 05:18:16 AM
Rear subframe is welded in to cars chassis.
Engine and gearbox have not been fitted yet. They will need custom frames too. Engine and gearbox will move 30cm back, so at this point it´s kind of impossible to say how they will be fitted. When engine arrives, it will be bolted to gearbox and start measuring. And start cutting floor, tunnel and firewall. :)
Engine and gearbox have not been fitted yet. They will need custom frames too. Engine and gearbox will move 30cm back, so at this point it´s kind of impossible to say how they will be fitted. When engine arrives, it will be bolted to gearbox and start measuring. And start cutting floor, tunnel and firewall. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
And little update on rallycross rules too:
No Slicks allowed! :) So everyone has to use onetype street tires. We are not sure how the h**l that car is coing to get all the power down to track... :D ;)
No Slicks allowed! :) So everyone has to use onetype street tires. We are not sure how the h**l that car is coing to get all the power down to track... :D ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2013, 05:08:46 PM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2013, 05:08:46 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;849866Very nice:) is the rear subframe tied into the roll cage? Also the gear box? That way you don\'t need the crappy ppf from the fd:D;)
Just curious, why is that ppf crappy?
And little edit to my posts:
Original rear diff subframe is bolted to another custom made frame, wich is welded to chassis.
And new rule Slicks are Kumho semi-slicks. Before all kind of full slicks were allowed...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2013, 05:47:30 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2013, 05:47:30 PM
Its just better and easier to avoid using it, the pods crack and all sorts. Solid mount the heat box to chassis, also strap the diff up, this is what I would do.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 08, 2013, 04:41:16 AM
Post by: re japi on February 08, 2013, 04:41:16 AM
Ok, thanks :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on March 30, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
Post by: jynkkis on March 30, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
päykäpäykä
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 31, 2013, 03:11:56 PM
Post by: re japi on March 31, 2013, 03:11:56 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, moron who wrote that previus message is my brother, owner of those two RX-7 in this thread. :D
Reason of that message was to test can he post to threads in MRC forum. :)
Updates on car: Rollgage is finished. He started to cut the floor. And now he is fitting radiator to boot
Reason of that message was to test can he post to threads in MRC forum. :)
Updates on car: Rollgage is finished. He started to cut the floor. And now he is fitting radiator to boot
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 02, 2013, 08:51:42 PM
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 02, 2013, 08:51:42 PM
Greetings jynkkis.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on April 02, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
Post by: re japi on April 02, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
Today we went to visit SRT (Sarlin Race Team). He sells racing equipment and stuff. He used to drive Fia GT kind of series with very very fast and beutiful, custom made Ford Escort Cosworth.
"Thing" just got my attention. Original -01 WRC Focus. Sainz used todrive that thing. Then it was rolled here in Finland few years ago. Now, fully restored.
Then is that Alcon brakes. Aluminium, solid lump. Just work of art! Amazing. Cost, around 6000â,¬! :)
"Thing" just got my attention. Original -01 WRC Focus. Sainz used todrive that thing. Then it was rolled here in Finland few years ago. Now, fully restored.
Then is that Alcon brakes. Aluminium, solid lump. Just work of art! Amazing. Cost, around 6000â,¬! :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on April 04, 2013, 06:28:53 AM
Post by: re japi on April 04, 2013, 06:28:53 AM
Just found this:
ex Rod millen 4wd pikes peak rx7 rebuild
http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.241226775982976.44125.221073857998268&type=1
Looks awesome. I want that kind of beast :)
But i have to ask, what gearbox is that?
ex Rod millen 4wd pikes peak rx7 rebuild
http://www.facebook.com/#!/media/set/?set=a.241226775982976.44125.221073857998268&type=1
Looks awesome. I want that kind of beast :)
But i have to ask, what gearbox is that?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on April 04, 2013, 10:51:05 AM
Post by: Casey on April 04, 2013, 10:51:05 AM
Wow:eek: That is one SERIOUS rebuild, looks awesome, thanks for sharing link :cheers
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on April 04, 2013, 05:29:54 PM
Post by: jynkkis on April 04, 2013, 05:29:54 PM
Greetings David.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on April 07, 2013, 01:23:02 PM
Post by: re japi on April 07, 2013, 01:23:02 PM
Unnecessary weight finding its place in the boot. Battery goes somewhere there too
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2013, 03:53:27 AM
Post by: re japi on June 21, 2013, 03:53:27 AM
Finally, my brother did get these! Well, they are not his, he didnt buy them...
So, it seems we got some fibreclass job to do... :)
Btw, car in my avatar is made with these...
So, it seems we got some fibreclass job to do... :)
Btw, car in my avatar is made with these...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 27, 2013, 06:15:34 PM
Post by: re japi on July 27, 2013, 06:15:34 PM
Little teaser :) From last event of Finnish Rallycross series.
As you can see, those guys are nuts! :) At 2min25sec, some moron photocrapher is in the way when he enters the Jokerlap.
http://youtu.be/YGujB00SOVU
Toni Niemi`s Starlet with Swedish built 13b pp. Toni has done a great job, and he is second in series, after 4/6 events, only 2 points behind leader. This is from A-final of last event.
http://youtu.be/_bYiJOx2GAk
As you can see, those guys are nuts! :) At 2min25sec, some moron photocrapher is in the way when he enters the Jokerlap.
http://youtu.be/YGujB00SOVU
Toni Niemi`s Starlet with Swedish built 13b pp. Toni has done a great job, and he is second in series, after 4/6 events, only 2 points behind leader. This is from A-final of last event.
http://youtu.be/_bYiJOx2GAk
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 27, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 27, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
Great driving. It looks so much fun!!
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 31, 2013, 05:02:33 AM
Post by: re japi on July 31, 2013, 05:02:33 AM
ENGINE ARRIVED YESTERDAY!!!! :rollin
Pictures coming soon :)
Pictures coming soon :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Will66 on July 31, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Post by: Will66 on July 31, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Just watched those vids, that Starlet goes nicely and sounds awesome, it sounds like its got some mad port overlap as it coughs and farts as he feathers the throttle round the corner and any rallycross video that ends with doughnuts is all good.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 10, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
Post by: re japi on August 10, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
I had awesome day at Ahvenisto racetrack. National time attack series round 4/6...
Few rotaries and other fast cars. Ill try to put some photos here.
Btw, google Valtonen motorsports. That golden FD with that bodykit. That kit is for sale... :)
Few rotaries and other fast cars. Ill try to put some photos here.
Btw, google Valtonen motorsports. That golden FD with that bodykit. That kit is for sale... :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 10, 2013, 04:54:16 PM
Post by: re japi on August 10, 2013, 04:54:16 PM
http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/library/?sort=2&page=1
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2013, 07:26:17 AM
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2013, 07:26:17 AM
Here is that bodykit on sale. :) More info coming up later...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: TopGear on August 13, 2013, 06:44:36 PM
Post by: TopGear on August 13, 2013, 06:44:36 PM
I\'ve been emailing that guy about that kit for years his he now making it again
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 14, 2013, 05:00:15 AM
Post by: re japi on August 14, 2013, 05:00:15 AM
Really? He did mention that someone has contacted him, but that was it...
He´s not making them. He is selling that original kit from that car. I´m waiting his email that i could get more info about it.
He´s not making them. He is selling that original kit from that car. I´m waiting his email that i could get more info about it.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: TopGear on August 14, 2013, 01:58:12 PM
Post by: TopGear on August 14, 2013, 01:58:12 PM
Yup he was going to sell me the Molds but then I\'m never heard anything back
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 14, 2013, 03:50:31 PM
Post by: re japi on August 14, 2013, 03:50:31 PM
Yep, we were talking about those molds. But if I remember right, he told me that he didnt heard anything back from you... Well, might be misunderstanding or something... :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: TopGear on August 14, 2013, 08:26:40 PM
Post by: TopGear on August 14, 2013, 08:26:40 PM
No I\'ve sent him a few emails with no response I will send him another mail tomorrow :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 15, 2013, 12:05:04 AM
Post by: re japi on August 15, 2013, 12:05:04 AM
I see. Weird. :) Well, I know that he has been very busy, but thats no reason...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: mpk490p on August 15, 2013, 07:07:26 AM
Post by: mpk490p on August 15, 2013, 07:07:26 AM
That is one hell of a kit ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 19, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
Post by: re japi on August 19, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
Ok, Fins are home. :) Its time to sum up what happened...
First, I really want to say that people in UK are very polite and they really made us feel like we are welcomed. Thank you for that, we really had good time, where ever we were... :)
Then I want to apologise our bad english. Its really hard when you get exited about some topic, your brains are working but your mouth just goes blaah blaah and no one cant understand anything what you are trying to say... ;)
Our trip to UK were more than a trip to us. You really cant imagine what it ment to us. I did mention to few people that there is just no rotarys and just a few people who really knows about rotarys here in Finland.
Maybe our trip was a step, 10 years of hobby became a lifestyle... ;)
For me, I really want to push even harder, to get all these stubborn Fins to understand what a amazing thing a rotary is. I have done that for a 10 years now, and believe me, Ill keep doing that until I die... :D
For my brother Jukka (aka jynkkis at MRC forum), I think that he really wants push to get his car done and to get to see his FB beast at the track. Your feedback about that car made us both wanting to push harder to get FB running... brab brab brab whaaAAAAMMM! ;)
Thank you to all of you, we really had a epic trip! And we will be back! :)
First, I really want to say that people in UK are very polite and they really made us feel like we are welcomed. Thank you for that, we really had good time, where ever we were... :)
Then I want to apologise our bad english. Its really hard when you get exited about some topic, your brains are working but your mouth just goes blaah blaah and no one cant understand anything what you are trying to say... ;)
Our trip to UK were more than a trip to us. You really cant imagine what it ment to us. I did mention to few people that there is just no rotarys and just a few people who really knows about rotarys here in Finland.
Maybe our trip was a step, 10 years of hobby became a lifestyle... ;)
For me, I really want to push even harder, to get all these stubborn Fins to understand what a amazing thing a rotary is. I have done that for a 10 years now, and believe me, Ill keep doing that until I die... :D
For my brother Jukka (aka jynkkis at MRC forum), I think that he really wants push to get his car done and to get to see his FB beast at the track. Your feedback about that car made us both wanting to push harder to get FB running... brab brab brab whaaAAAAMMM! ;)
Thank you to all of you, we really had a epic trip! And we will be back! :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on August 19, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Post by: clive on August 19, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: re japi;863351Ok, Fins are home. :)
Thank you to all of you, we really had a epic trip! And we will be back! :)
Really great to meet you and spend time with you to share Rotary enthusiasm plus its really good to hear you will be back:D
I Hope the new Rotary arm has stopped hurting, wow even I have not gone as far as a Rotary tattoo :Giggle
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2013, 10:15:49 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 19, 2013, 10:15:49 PM
Your English is better than our Finnish, and your English is also better than a lot of English people\'s English.
Clive if you get a rotary based tattoo I will pay for it!!
Clive if you get a rotary based tattoo I will pay for it!!
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 20, 2013, 07:08:16 AM
Post by: re japi on August 20, 2013, 07:08:16 AM
Clive, yes it doesent hurt anymore. That first day my arm was quite sore. :)
Grant, thanks mate :D
Grant, thanks mate :D
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 24, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
Post by: re japi on August 24, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
Had a nice day at Ahvenisto racetrack today. Morning was FinToys(Toyotas) clubday and then was FoMoCo(Fords) clubday. Many of my friends are in to Fords so its my (bad)habit to go with them :)
Here is some photos:
http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/library/FiFo?sort=2&page=1
Here is some photos:
http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/library/FiFo?sort=2&page=1
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on August 24, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on August 24, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
Some nice pic\'s there and some really nice cars :)
Ade
Ade
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 31, 2013, 04:30:38 PM
Post by: re japi on August 31, 2013, 04:30:38 PM
Toni Niemi with Rotary Starlet is number 1 in autocross!!! He managed to come in 2nd place in final round of championship. He had enough points to win championship! Congrats Toni! Next year hopefully more rotarys will be fighting against MR2...
Btw, in RS10, me, C J R, Steve and some others talked about solid engine mounts. Nylon with heatwrap. Does someone have pictures of them? Need D.I.Y. help... ;)
Btw, in RS10, me, C J R, Steve and some others talked about solid engine mounts. Nylon with heatwrap. Does someone have pictures of them? Need D.I.Y. help... ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on September 03, 2013, 01:35:42 PM
Post by: Casey on September 03, 2013, 01:35:42 PM
I can\'t help with the engine mount query, but I did want to congratulate Toni on winning that Autocross championship in a rotary powered car. It\'s great to hear of such successes and to know that people are demonstrating how good the rotary engine can be in competitive events :Thumbs-up
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 05, 2013, 06:15:06 PM
Post by: re japi on September 05, 2013, 06:15:06 PM
Engine in its place. As you can see, it is really in "deep". ;) Only problem is that there is no room for carb and airfilter... :/
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2013, 04:08:42 AM
Post by: re japi on September 16, 2013, 04:08:42 AM
My brother dropped engine down by 4cm. Now, carb has more space around it.
Its funny, I have seen that engine and gearbox on its place 3 times now. That is just sick. Its so far behind that its got to be illegal ;)
Diff is now in place too. And he did get "custom made PPF".
BTW, Toni´s win in autocross made people to talk and hype about rotaries. Hopefully we can get more rotaries to race in the future. :)
Its funny, I have seen that engine and gearbox on its place 3 times now. That is just sick. Its so far behind that its got to be illegal ;)
Diff is now in place too. And he did get "custom made PPF".
BTW, Toni´s win in autocross made people to talk and hype about rotaries. Hopefully we can get more rotaries to race in the future. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 11, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
Post by: re japi on November 11, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: re japi;863351Then I want to apologise our bad english. Its really hard when you get exited about some topic, your brains are working but your mouth just goes blaah blaah and no one cant understand anything what you are trying to say... ;)
I´m a moron. Just realized that I typed "you", I meant ME! ;)
Then some bad news: My brothers back is maybe "gone". He might get knife to fix that. Well, anyways there is a change that he might need a surgery.
So, because that and other reasons, his Dirtkicker FB wont be finised so soon... :(
Other news in National rallycross:
Car minimum weight is 1000kg now.
Billet stuff in engine are not allowed.
8 valve engines can be 2200cc.
+ lots of rules to make championship cheaper and even to all.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on November 11, 2013, 04:46:03 PM
Post by: clive on November 11, 2013, 04:46:03 PM
Quote from: re japi;867388So, because that and other reasons, his Dirtkicker FB wont be finised so soon... :(
ARGGGGGGGGGG, Sorry to hear this for both your brother and the car
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on November 12, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
Post by: jynkkis on November 12, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
look at the bright side: now I have time to study at the computer about rotaries, down side is that I am not able to sit....
Sometimes life is a crook:Grrr:Grrr
Sometimes life is a crook:Grrr:Grrr
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
Few updates:
Jynkkis started to build headers and exhaust. Its looking wild :)
Also, I have tryed to learn more and more about rotarys. Today I heard that Koiranen Bros Racing had original IMSA Rx-7 here, Tom Walkinshaw Racing build. They raced it -86-87.
Jynkkis started to build headers and exhaust. Its looking wild :)
Also, I have tryed to learn more and more about rotarys. Today I heard that Koiranen Bros Racing had original IMSA Rx-7 here, Tom Walkinshaw Racing build. They raced it -86-87.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2013, 05:59:14 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 02, 2013, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: re japi;868589Few updates:
Jynkkis started to build headers and exhaust. Its looking wild :)
Also, I have tryed to learn more and more about rotarys. Today I heard that Koiranen Bros Racing had original IMSA Rx-7 here, Tom Walkinshaw Racing build. They raced it -86-87.
That is a great looking car!!
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2013, 06:18:57 PM
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2013, 06:18:57 PM
Also, when we were in RS10, favorit race event was on. Historic Grand Race. You can find lots of stuff about that event on Youtube. HGR or Historic Grand Race Ahvenisto. I bet You like it! :) Here is a few "teasers"... ;)
Sumpeam Imp with Hayabusa engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbg446V20KM&feature=share&list=UUVpaK0yhv7d2oR0ITSoFFLA
Opel Ascona B with +600hp
http://youtu.be/VBzoeUGQXwI
Here is that Ascona launching. And at 2:30mins our friends Imp(green) with 1000cc Yamaha engine, chased by that previous Imp(blue).
http://youtu.be/okF0-yb3ung
Another Incar video
http://youtu.be/572-6FZS0po
Sumpeam Imp with Hayabusa engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbg446V20KM&feature=share&list=UUVpaK0yhv7d2oR0ITSoFFLA
Opel Ascona B with +600hp
http://youtu.be/VBzoeUGQXwI
Here is that Ascona launching. And at 2:30mins our friends Imp(green) with 1000cc Yamaha engine, chased by that previous Imp(blue).
http://youtu.be/okF0-yb3ung
Another Incar video
http://youtu.be/572-6FZS0po
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 03, 2013, 10:12:40 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 03, 2013, 10:12:40 AM
I love the Asconas and Mantas, I had the three Mantas in my past, 2.2 Litre Big Valve Block and one thats was Rover V8
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
I hate Opels but I have a soft spot for Asconas and Mantas ;)
Our father raced Group A Ascona in late -80 and early -90. It had very good engine at the time, unfortunatly gearboxes did broke easy...
That Green Ascona on the video, it was allready very quick car, allways at the top in that series. They rebuilded it, and it did take over 3 years.
Had more info about that Imsa RX. Someone in Denmark purchased it. They raced it few years and then it was converted to run V8... :(
Our father raced Group A Ascona in late -80 and early -90. It had very good engine at the time, unfortunatly gearboxes did broke easy...
That Green Ascona on the video, it was allready very quick car, allways at the top in that series. They rebuilded it, and it did take over 3 years.
Had more info about that Imsa RX. Someone in Denmark purchased it. They raced it few years and then it was converted to run V8... :(
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 31, 2013, 07:15:33 PM
Post by: re japi on December 31, 2013, 07:15:33 PM
Umm, Carl, what kind of overlap bro`s engine has? And where were you thinking rev limiter?
Also, can stock gearbox handle that power? Especially in high revs, will it take gears in?
Also, can stock gearbox handle that power? Especially in high revs, will it take gears in?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 31, 2013, 07:37:31 PM
Post by: re japi on December 31, 2013, 07:37:31 PM
Oh, btw my bro did get another distraction and roadblock to his car built. Two days ago his gf/wife gave birth to they second child, little baby girl. :)
Congrats you moron ;D
Congrats you moron ;D
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2014, 01:37:17 PM
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2014, 01:37:17 PM
Painted. Looks good :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 11, 2014, 10:35:41 AM
Post by: re japi on February 11, 2014, 10:35:41 AM
Few updates:
1st pick: Bro made custom PPF. Also headers is showing. Not much room.
2nd pick: Stuff getting to places
3rd pick: Brapper in its place
4th pick: Little "wing" controlling airflow around carb and headers
1st pick: Bro made custom PPF. Also headers is showing. Not much room.
2nd pick: Stuff getting to places
3rd pick: Brapper in its place
4th pick: Little "wing" controlling airflow around carb and headers
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 11, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
Post by: re japi on February 11, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
My brother promoted me, I´m not team manager anymore. I´m PR-MAN (Permanently Retarded- May Answer Nonsens) ;)
Btw, I allready booked time to same tattoo studio and artist in Wellingborough who made my rotary tribal!!! :Thumbsup!
Want more ink. Maybe something rotary theme... ;)
Btw, I allready booked time to same tattoo studio and artist in Wellingborough who made my rotary tribal!!! :Thumbsup!
Want more ink. Maybe something rotary theme... ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: C J R on February 12, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
Post by: C J R on February 12, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
Your brother is making good progress.
I like the quality of workmanship.
I remember meeting you last year at Rotorstock after your \'ink\' session. :Thumbs-up
Look forward to seeing your new addition(s) this year.:wiggle
I like the quality of workmanship.
I remember meeting you last year at Rotorstock after your \'ink\' session. :Thumbs-up
Look forward to seeing your new addition(s) this year.:wiggle
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 12, 2014, 01:55:46 PM
Post by: re japi on February 12, 2014, 01:55:46 PM
Ya, he is doing good progress, even though his back is killing him. Actually, I was impressed by his welding skils. I knew that he can weld but... :)
Ya, arm was quite sore but I was very happy :)
Cant wait new additions. I´m thinking R and E to other side of my arm. Kind of "armband" or something with that tribal. Allready booked ink time and asked that tattoo artist(apprentice) to design it for me ;)
Ya, arm was quite sore but I was very happy :)
Cant wait new additions. I´m thinking R and E to other side of my arm. Kind of "armband" or something with that tribal. Allready booked ink time and asked that tattoo artist(apprentice) to design it for me ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 20, 2014, 09:41:41 AM
Post by: re japi on February 20, 2014, 09:41:41 AM
Rallycross season is coming. My friend has his car ready for a next season. Saturday is dynoday for Lada, and I´m going with my friend, just for fun. :)
Also my brother is doing good progress. I will add more pics soon.
We have been discussing about using ECU and fuel injection at some point in future. Does anyone have knowledge and or experience using Haltech on 13B PP N/A engine? Thoughts, opinions or ideas?
Ohh, we also have been thinking name for our "team". ;) Thoughts, opinions or ideas are needed here too...? ;)
Also my brother is doing good progress. I will add more pics soon.
We have been discussing about using ECU and fuel injection at some point in future. Does anyone have knowledge and or experience using Haltech on 13B PP N/A engine? Thoughts, opinions or ideas?
Ohh, we also have been thinking name for our "team". ;) Thoughts, opinions or ideas are needed here too...? ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 22, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
Post by: re japi on February 22, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
I had good dyno day with my friend. Lada didnt broke and NO horses were missing, so he was happy. We even had time to try different things.
Also, learned alot about Haltech so day was good for me too :)
Also, learned alot about Haltech so day was good for me too :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 22, 2014, 05:18:31 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 22, 2014, 05:18:31 PM
How many horses has it got under the bonnet?
Haltech is a good ecu, I have one for my rx4:)
Haltech is a good ecu, I have one for my rx4:)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 22, 2014, 06:11:06 PM
Post by: re japi on February 22, 2014, 06:11:06 PM
246hp. But engine is build for max torque and big rev range. Torgue and power band is very linear and easy to use/drive. And its quite "lowcost" engine, no very expensive parts.
Oh, btw, it is Opel 2.0l 16valve engine. :)
Oh, btw, it is Opel 2.0l 16valve engine. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 22, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 22, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
I bet that\'s fun to drive!! Is the car sub 1,000kg?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2014, 05:04:13 AM
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2014, 05:04:13 AM
Car weights 1030kg with driver. So there is 30kg too much weight.
Yes, Janne has done lots and lots work and thinking to get that car behave and run the way he wants. Even though engine is a bit low powered to this series, car is quite compatible because so much effort and time has gone to development and testing cars suspension and handling.
Well, there is not much Lada left in it. :) It has classfibre body, gearbox and rearend is from Volvo, suspension is based on Volvo components.
Testing process has taken 3 years now. Car is quite finished.
Car can do 0-60 meters in 1,6 seks in tarmac, so its good result for less than 250hp.
But I have tryed very hard to get rotary under that bonnet too ;)
Yes, Janne has done lots and lots work and thinking to get that car behave and run the way he wants. Even though engine is a bit low powered to this series, car is quite compatible because so much effort and time has gone to development and testing cars suspension and handling.
Well, there is not much Lada left in it. :) It has classfibre body, gearbox and rearend is from Volvo, suspension is based on Volvo components.
Testing process has taken 3 years now. Car is quite finished.
Car can do 0-60 meters in 1,6 seks in tarmac, so its good result for less than 250hp.
But I have tryed very hard to get rotary under that bonnet too ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 23, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 23, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
For a non turbo\'d rotary he would only gain 50 hp if he used a PP motor.
Could he use a turbo motor?
Could he use a turbo motor?
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2014, 01:02:02 PM
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2014, 01:02:02 PM
Yes, but rotary doesent weight so much. And he could but rotary further back witch has big effect on weight distribution and balance of car.
Even though that engine is good, rotary would have bigger rev range. Also max torque would be in bigger range.
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Basic engine rules in National Autocross series:
-Rear and middle engined cars are allowed max 2050cc
-Frontwheeldrive and rearwheeldrive cars are alloved to have:
-2050cc max if there is variable valve timing system
-2250cc max if there is multi valve head
-2400cc max if there is 2valve/cylinder in head
-Rotary engines multiplier 1,8. Rotary is compared to multi valve engine.
-rear and middle engine max is 2050cc
-front and rear wheel drive is max is 2400cc
Engines must be N/A engined. Must be factory build. Must be car engine. No billet engines or even heads allowed. Pump gas only(later re85 allowed)
All these rules was suggested and "approved" my drivers for benefit of this series.
It have become "Toyota MR2" series, so everybody wanted to change that.
Even though that engine is good, rotary would have bigger rev range. Also max torque would be in bigger range.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Basic engine rules in National Autocross series:
-Rear and middle engined cars are allowed max 2050cc
-Frontwheeldrive and rearwheeldrive cars are alloved to have:
-2050cc max if there is variable valve timing system
-2250cc max if there is multi valve head
-2400cc max if there is 2valve/cylinder in head
-Rotary engines multiplier 1,8. Rotary is compared to multi valve engine.
-rear and middle engine max is 2050cc
-front and rear wheel drive is max is 2400cc
Engines must be N/A engined. Must be factory build. Must be car engine. No billet engines or even heads allowed. Pump gas only(later re85 allowed)
All these rules was suggested and "approved" my drivers for benefit of this series.
It have become "Toyota MR2" series, so everybody wanted to change that.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 23, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 23, 2014, 04:27:28 PM
How much does the current engine weigh? How much bigger is it than a 13B?
Advantage of the rotary is that you can rev them really high, iv been told 13,000rpm in drag cars, with only side clearencing the rotors. So a bridge port motor would effectively have a power band from 4,000 rpm to 13,000 rpm IF the gear box can shift at those speed. However the power won\'t be made all that way, most likely around the 7,500/8,000 rpm area maybe
Advantage of the rotary is that you can rev them really high, iv been told 13,000rpm in drag cars, with only side clearencing the rotors. So a bridge port motor would effectively have a power band from 4,000 rpm to 13,000 rpm IF the gear box can shift at those speed. However the power won\'t be made all that way, most likely around the 7,500/8,000 rpm area maybe
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
Post by: re japi on February 23, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
That Opel engine is very small actually, and weights about 100kg with everything on it. But biggest differense is in height. Dunno for sure but I bet that Opel engine is about 10cm "taller".
In this engine, power band range is about 4000-6500 rpm. Janne has other engine too with power band at about 5500-7500rpm. It has good power, but torque band is crap. Both engines has rev limiter at 8250rpm.
So lets say that rotary has limiter at 9000 or 9500 rpm. Usually, compared to piston engine, power and torque curve is still rising. So there is a good area 4000-9000 rpm, witch is much more than piston engine. And those extra revs effects alot in shifting gear. In some curves you dont necessarely shift down or up. Or you could shift and power is there
In this engine, power band range is about 4000-6500 rpm. Janne has other engine too with power band at about 5500-7500rpm. It has good power, but torque band is crap. Both engines has rev limiter at 8250rpm.
So lets say that rotary has limiter at 9000 or 9500 rpm. Usually, compared to piston engine, power and torque curve is still rising. So there is a good area 4000-9000 rpm, witch is much more than piston engine. And those extra revs effects alot in shifting gear. In some curves you dont necessarely shift down or up. Or you could shift and power is there
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 05, 2014, 03:46:25 AM
Post by: re japi on March 05, 2014, 03:46:25 AM
Some update...
I have to say that Bro has bigger balls than I have. ;) I dont have guts to cut those panels open! Bro said that our father went quite speechless when he saw that! "WTF you have done!"...
Anyways, car looks awesome with that fat ass! :mmmm
I have to say that Bro has bigger balls than I have. ;) I dont have guts to cut those panels open! Bro said that our father went quite speechless when he saw that! "WTF you have done!"...
Anyways, car looks awesome with that fat ass! :mmmm
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2014, 07:23:13 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2014, 07:23:13 AM
Nice, very nice! No need to keep the original metal Under there with those arch extensions, weight saving;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: C J R on March 05, 2014, 08:01:52 AM
Post by: C J R on March 05, 2014, 08:01:52 AM
I Like :cheers
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 05, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
Post by: re japi on March 05, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
Only problem is where to find wheels or 4 inch spacers ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on March 05, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
Post by: clive on March 05, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
Wo, ho, now its looking real real good :D
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 05, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
Take standard wheels and get them banded/widened, get them done right and you won\'t need spacers :D
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 06, 2014, 04:28:01 AM
Post by: re japi on March 06, 2014, 04:28:01 AM
Lol Dont know what to do Grant. I mean, there is ALOT room for wheels and tyres. :)
Btw, does anyone need those original panels, they are in very good condition ;)
Btw, does anyone need those original panels, they are in very good condition ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 31, 2014, 05:31:30 AM
Post by: re japi on March 31, 2014, 05:31:30 AM
Not much to report at the moment. Some work has done to car though
Today my brother is going to back surgery. Lets see how that goes...
Today my brother is going to back surgery. Lets see how that goes...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2014, 08:16:35 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2014, 08:16:35 AM
Best of luck too your brother, hope all goes well:):D
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on April 03, 2014, 06:46:20 AM
Post by: re japi on April 03, 2014, 06:46:20 AM
OK, bro is home allready. Surgery did go well. (damn, I dont get those cars ;)
Does someone have FD´s wiring loom picture or something? I thought I had one but I cant find it
Does someone have FD´s wiring loom picture or something? I thought I had one but I cant find it
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2014, 05:21:24 PM
Post by: re japi on May 12, 2014, 05:21:24 PM
Updates: (no pics, sorry)
Bro is slowly doing some progress. Lots to do still. Even though surgery went well, his back is not good yet.
Our dad is working on electrics to car.
Rallycross season starts within 2 weeks! Yesterday I had long talk with Janne (owner of that Lada). Lada is ready to fight and Janne is driving full season. Heard lots of rumours too. Few new cars is coming to race this season. Also heard lots of rumours about engines. Powers are so big that they are just rumours and hype ;) And few engine allready blew up on dyno :)
Bro is slowly doing some progress. Lots to do still. Even though surgery went well, his back is not good yet.
Our dad is working on electrics to car.
Rallycross season starts within 2 weeks! Yesterday I had long talk with Janne (owner of that Lada). Lada is ready to fight and Janne is driving full season. Heard lots of rumours too. Few new cars is coming to race this season. Also heard lots of rumours about engines. Powers are so big that they are just rumours and hype ;) And few engine allready blew up on dyno :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
Post by: re japi on May 14, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
I had awesome day!
First I was at Ahvenisto racetrack free practice day.
Then I went to Hyvinkää rallycross track with Janne to Lada shakedown. Car performed very well. Engine is great and suspension setup is perfect.
First I was at Ahvenisto racetrack free practice day.
Then I went to Hyvinkää rallycross track with Janne to Lada shakedown. Car performed very well. Engine is great and suspension setup is perfect.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 24, 2014, 06:35:36 PM
Post by: re japi on May 24, 2014, 06:35:36 PM
Today was first round of national rallycross at Honkajoki racetrack.
Day was perfect. About 28-30 celsius, great cars, lots of fun.
Janne´s Lada was awesome. He was fast and car had no problems. He managed to get to D final and there to C final. Car was performing well, but then something happened. We dont know why and what. Engine is running bad... :confused: (Number 22 in pics)
And rumours were true. There is a 13B PP in Volvo PV544! Funny thing is that he is my friends friend. :) I talked with him alot. Car was awesome. 8 years not racing and very different kind of engine that he is used to, was quite big challenge to him. He is a Volvo fan so he is not used to rev engine so high. ;) He had a bit water temperature problems. Unfortunatly at second qualification he hitted rail, and that was it, too much damage to car...
(number 21 in pics, blue car)
Also we talked with Toni Niemi, last years champion with green Toyota Starlet 13B PP. He had no problems. Water temperature was little high but other than that, car was great. They havent done anything to car since last season, not even tested. Although he did entered few ice races in winter. Anyways, he was 3rd, so good start to season...
I will put pictures to photobucket. :)
Day was perfect. About 28-30 celsius, great cars, lots of fun.
Janne´s Lada was awesome. He was fast and car had no problems. He managed to get to D final and there to C final. Car was performing well, but then something happened. We dont know why and what. Engine is running bad... :confused: (Number 22 in pics)
And rumours were true. There is a 13B PP in Volvo PV544! Funny thing is that he is my friends friend. :) I talked with him alot. Car was awesome. 8 years not racing and very different kind of engine that he is used to, was quite big challenge to him. He is a Volvo fan so he is not used to rev engine so high. ;) He had a bit water temperature problems. Unfortunatly at second qualification he hitted rail, and that was it, too much damage to car...
(number 21 in pics, blue car)
Also we talked with Toni Niemi, last years champion with green Toyota Starlet 13B PP. He had no problems. Water temperature was little high but other than that, car was great. They havent done anything to car since last season, not even tested. Although he did entered few ice races in winter. Anyways, he was 3rd, so good start to season...
I will put pictures to photobucket. :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 25, 2014, 03:03:00 AM
Post by: re japi on May 25, 2014, 03:03:00 AM
http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/library/Honkajoki?sort=2&page=1
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 08, 2014, 04:29:17 AM
Post by: re japi on June 08, 2014, 04:29:17 AM
Second round of national rallycross was in Kouvola 7.6-2014
Toni with Starlet managed to get third place overall. He had lots of traction problems but nothing else
Janne Asikainen with Volvo PV 544 had problems with feeding fuel to engine. They managed to fix that problem, and car started to work. Now engine sound awesome, hitting rev limiter at 9800 rpm and spitting fire from exhaust :Thumbs-up Unfortunatly, he got black flag, because he was "blocking the way too agressive". In braking he got hitted from behind and spinned. He was :censored::censored::censored::censored:ed! Judges were morons...
Janne with Lada... well, everything went bad from friday to saturday. Car has electric problem. And it has secondary engine on it, Janne doesent like it. Lada got lots of battle scars during the day. And all ended to D final, when Lada got hitted bad and spinned out of track.
Anyways, we had awesome time, and everything s**t that happened didnt stopped us to have fun. Here´s Batman and his new sidekicks Boobarella and Legs ;) I will put more pics later...
Toni with Starlet managed to get third place overall. He had lots of traction problems but nothing else
Janne Asikainen with Volvo PV 544 had problems with feeding fuel to engine. They managed to fix that problem, and car started to work. Now engine sound awesome, hitting rev limiter at 9800 rpm and spitting fire from exhaust :Thumbs-up Unfortunatly, he got black flag, because he was "blocking the way too agressive". In braking he got hitted from behind and spinned. He was :censored::censored::censored::censored:ed! Judges were morons...
Janne with Lada... well, everything went bad from friday to saturday. Car has electric problem. And it has secondary engine on it, Janne doesent like it. Lada got lots of battle scars during the day. And all ended to D final, when Lada got hitted bad and spinned out of track.
Anyways, we had awesome time, and everything s**t that happened didnt stopped us to have fun. Here´s Batman and his new sidekicks Boobarella and Legs ;) I will put more pics later...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2014, 05:46:16 AM
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2014, 05:46:16 AM
http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/library/Kouvola?sort=2&page=1
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2014, 08:30:55 PM
Post by: boosted on June 22, 2014, 08:30:55 PM
Theres defo something funny in the water you fins drinks...your all bonkers...looks like fun
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2014, 04:25:59 AM
Post by: re japi on June 23, 2014, 04:25:59 AM
lol we dont drink water ;)
The truth is that if you take racing too serious, its not fun anymore.
This picture really shows that even though Janne had problems during this weekend, he had fun. And that gentlemen with green shirt is supercar driver Janne Kanerva´s main mechanic. That man is a wizard. They had big problems too and still he did come to chat and spend time with us... :)
The truth is that if you take racing too serious, its not fun anymore.
This picture really shows that even though Janne had problems during this weekend, he had fun. And that gentlemen with green shirt is supercar driver Janne Kanerva´s main mechanic. That man is a wizard. They had big problems too and still he did come to chat and spend time with us... :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2014, 05:17:41 PM
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2014, 05:17:41 PM
Little update:
It has been long time since car have stand on its own. I was very happy to see that today. I was smiling like moron when I walked to bro´s garage :InLove
All those classfibre body parts are slowly finding their own place. Car looks awesome! Ofcourse there is lot to do. Fabricate brackets, check alligment of panels and so on...
Its easy to make repairs to engine when you can stand in enginebay ;)
It has been long time since car have stand on its own. I was very happy to see that today. I was smiling like moron when I walked to bro´s garage :InLove
All those classfibre body parts are slowly finding their own place. Car looks awesome! Ofcourse there is lot to do. Fabricate brackets, check alligment of panels and so on...
Its easy to make repairs to engine when you can stand in enginebay ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2014, 06:36:54 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2014, 06:36:54 PM
The engine is soooo faaaar back!!:):D
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 25, 2014, 03:57:32 AM
Post by: re japi on June 25, 2014, 03:57:32 AM
Nah, only 28cm from original position ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 12, 2014, 05:21:18 PM
Post by: re japi on July 12, 2014, 05:21:18 PM
Today:
Car is out of carage, first time in two years I think.
Camber needs some adjustment ;)
Roto the dog with rota the car :)
Red Baron
Car looks good but unfortunatly classfibre parts paint "boiled". New try tomorrow...
Car is out of carage, first time in two years I think.
Camber needs some adjustment ;)
Roto the dog with rota the car :)
Red Baron
Car looks good but unfortunatly classfibre parts paint "boiled". New try tomorrow...
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Some good progess. looking through your album from racing that orange x19 is awesome! I always wanted 1 but never happened.
Looking at some of the battle scars is it worth worrying about the paintwork!
Looking at some of the battle scars is it worth worrying about the paintwork!
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 13, 2014, 04:26:54 AM
Post by: re japi on July 13, 2014, 04:26:54 AM
Yes, finally coming together. And she looks awesome. :) No need to do a showroom paintjob. There will be battle scars. ;)
Ya, that X19 is quite rare nowadays. That orange has been around some time now. And he has been in top 5 for years now.
Guy who drive it and built it is a wizard. He uses Honda engine. Its safe to say that 330 horses from "home made" 2litre NA engine is quite good ;)
Ya, that X19 is quite rare nowadays. That orange has been around some time now. And he has been in top 5 for years now.
Guy who drive it and built it is a wizard. He uses Honda engine. Its safe to say that 330 horses from "home made" 2litre NA engine is quite good ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 18, 2014, 04:09:40 PM
Post by: re japi on August 18, 2014, 04:09:40 PM
Little update on last rallycross event. I wasnt able to go there because back back is still hurting...
Well, Janne´s Lada was okay but just didnt manage to get to finals unfortunatly.
Toni´s rotary Starlet was working well too, but he just wasnt fast enough, so no bodium place this time.
Rotary Volvo wanst racing because they found little crack on engine. Dunno what happens now, they are sorting that problem...
Also in Super cars, heat was on. One of the biggest crasches in our series:
http://youtu.be/NDmHqZpf_ms
Driver is ok, but car was destroyed. I heard that he has new bodyshell now
Well, Janne´s Lada was okay but just didnt manage to get to finals unfortunatly.
Toni´s rotary Starlet was working well too, but he just wasnt fast enough, so no bodium place this time.
Rotary Volvo wanst racing because they found little crack on engine. Dunno what happens now, they are sorting that problem...
Also in Super cars, heat was on. One of the biggest crasches in our series:
http://youtu.be/NDmHqZpf_ms
Driver is ok, but car was destroyed. I heard that he has new bodyshell now
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on August 18, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
Post by: Casey on August 18, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
Wow, that was some crash, and amazing the two following cars (just) managed to avoid collecting him - great driving by those two in not making the incident even worse. Glad to hear driver OK!
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 27, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
Post by: re japi on August 27, 2014, 10:10:27 AM
http://youtu.be/ZiWWPtIOVhg
Very good video Rotary Starlet at action! :)
Very good video Rotary Starlet at action! :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 14, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Post by: re japi on September 14, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Well, next weekend is final event of our rallycross series! Cant wait
Rotary Volvo is ok now, and ready to fight. She had scratches inside rotor housings. :( Guy tested it few weeks ago and said that she has massive power :P I really hope that car is working good at seasons last event...
Janne´s Lada is fixed too. Janne said that now he is going flat out and gives no mercy! I wonder what kind of battle scars he manages to do now...
Rotary Starlet had engine problems at last event. They opened it and found that side seals were gone but apex were okay...? But I dont know hows that possible? Overheated? My brother talked with Toni today, he was testing at Hyvinkää. Toni said that little bugger has more power now that ever! So, we are expecting Toni to go FAST! ;)
Rotary Volvo is ok now, and ready to fight. She had scratches inside rotor housings. :( Guy tested it few weeks ago and said that she has massive power :P I really hope that car is working good at seasons last event...
Janne´s Lada is fixed too. Janne said that now he is going flat out and gives no mercy! I wonder what kind of battle scars he manages to do now...
Rotary Starlet had engine problems at last event. They opened it and found that side seals were gone but apex were okay...? But I dont know hows that possible? Overheated? My brother talked with Toni today, he was testing at Hyvinkää. Toni said that little bugger has more power now that ever! So, we are expecting Toni to go FAST! ;)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on September 15, 2014, 06:45:49 PM
Post by: Casey on September 15, 2014, 06:45:49 PM
Sounds like you are good to go - hope you do well in the last event of the year :Thumbs-up
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Clarky on September 15, 2014, 10:31:10 PM
Post by: Clarky on September 15, 2014, 10:31:10 PM
Great Video
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 06:07:50 AM
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 06:07:50 AM
Well, yesterday did not go as we planned. Lada was making weird noices and caught on fire. Those minor problems were sorted and then... car was destroyed. Janne rolled car over. But Janne is okay...
Toni with Starlet is doing well. He said that it is awesome to drive when you have massive power :)
Volvo PV with 13B pp isnt working! They wont race it now. It doesent rev smoothly after 6000rpm, it just farts and goughs. Also he noticed that exhaust temperatures wont rise, 1st rotor 700 celsius and 2nd only 500... All components have been changed, fuel system, ignition and so on. They have tested and checked everything like 3 times. Also engine has been rebuild about a month ago. What could be wrong????
I will put some pictures later
Toni with Starlet is doing well. He said that it is awesome to drive when you have massive power :)
Volvo PV with 13B pp isnt working! They wont race it now. It doesent rev smoothly after 6000rpm, it just farts and goughs. Also he noticed that exhaust temperatures wont rise, 1st rotor 700 celsius and 2nd only 500... All components have been changed, fuel system, ignition and so on. They have tested and checked everything like 3 times. Also engine has been rebuild about a month ago. What could be wrong????
I will put some pictures later
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
Janne´s Lada. Actually its not too bad. And seems like that all expensive parts and components are ok. And safety devises worked!!!!
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:08:15 PM
1st pic: Friday night. At this point everything was okey. Then everything started to go south...
2nd pic: Toni´s pit bike :)
3rd pic: What a... Superman with Honda Monkey??? :D
4rd pic: Reaper
2nd pic: Toni´s pit bike :)
3rd pic: What a... Superman with Honda Monkey??? :D
4rd pic: Reaper
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:11:58 PM
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:11:58 PM
1st pic: Autocross C final
2nd pic: Autocross B final
3rd pic: Supercar C final
4rd pic: Supercar final
2nd pic: Autocross B final
3rd pic: Supercar C final
4rd pic: Supercar final
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:17:21 PM
Post by: re japi on September 21, 2014, 05:17:21 PM
1st pic: Volvo has 5 dudes working on it :)
2nd pic: And here she is, Autocross champion 2014. I´m very happy for Vesa, he really deserved that title!!
At final Toni´s Starlet´s gearbox destroyed. He was super fast before that. And he was disapointed, he really wanted to fight. He was 4th in series.
2nd pic: And here she is, Autocross champion 2014. I´m very happy for Vesa, he really deserved that title!!
At final Toni´s Starlet´s gearbox destroyed. He was super fast before that. And he was disapointed, he really wanted to fight. He was 4th in series.
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on September 23, 2014, 02:28:44 PM
Post by: Casey on September 23, 2014, 02:28:44 PM
Well, that was certainly eventful! Sorry to hear of the rotarys having major issues though - but as long as no-one hurt, everything can be fixed :)
Title: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 24, 2014, 04:32:07 AM
Post by: re japi on September 24, 2014, 04:32:07 AM
Toni´s run at final. Damn that thing is awesome! :P and Toni too
http://youtu.be/5-Lg8TRhLKA
http://youtu.be/5-Lg8TRhLKA
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2015, 08:09:23 AM
Post by: re japi on January 05, 2015, 08:09:23 AM
No major updates. :/
Bro´s car still needs wirings, windows and some other stuff. And he started to do front suspension all over again.
Janne´s Lada is slowly coming back together. Even though hit was quite big, majority of expensive parts was not harmed. Few days ago we changed a roof to car. Yesterday we did put in a new engine. Well, actually its just mode of new engine. Janne desided to change Opel engine to a "bigblock" Volvo engine. Also, he is making changes to rearend too.
Dont know what Toni is done with his rotary Starlet, but there is some rumours that its for sale :(
Last thing I have heard about that rotary Volvo PV, is that its running again. Every problem that it had, it was because of ECU. It was crap. So I´m happy that they managed to solve those problems :)
And here is some FB brab brab video I found, B group action! :)
http://youtu.be/N-hMT3iIMQY
Bro´s car still needs wirings, windows and some other stuff. And he started to do front suspension all over again.
Janne´s Lada is slowly coming back together. Even though hit was quite big, majority of expensive parts was not harmed. Few days ago we changed a roof to car. Yesterday we did put in a new engine. Well, actually its just mode of new engine. Janne desided to change Opel engine to a "bigblock" Volvo engine. Also, he is making changes to rearend too.
Dont know what Toni is done with his rotary Starlet, but there is some rumours that its for sale :(
Last thing I have heard about that rotary Volvo PV, is that its running again. Every problem that it had, it was because of ECU. It was crap. So I´m happy that they managed to solve those problems :)
And here is some FB brab brab video I found, B group action! :)
http://youtu.be/N-hMT3iIMQY
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 07, 2015, 03:00:21 PM
Post by: re japi on May 07, 2015, 03:00:21 PM
Rallycross season 2015 start in week and a half. Cant wait!
Janne´s Lada is NOT ready. This picture was taken last weekend :) Still have to go to dyno and test. And I think test has to be done in free practice at first race... :)
Rotary Starlet has a new owner. That guy is good, and I am really looking forward to see what he can do. Here is link to his Facebook page. Please go and like and support him:
https://www.facebook.com/rxtonikuhanen?fref=ts
Also, I have talked with Janne, who owns that Rotary Volvo PV. Problems should be sorted now and car has massive power. They are doing few modifications to front end, but other than that, car is ready to race. I really hope that Janne and Volvo will have good season this year.
And Finnish rotary fans and enthusiast have own little page in Facebook. Please take a look and like. ;)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rotary-garage/680409828697430?fref=ts
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Vaiheessa_zps3029f3gy.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Vaiheessa_zps3029f3gy.jpg.html)
Janne´s Lada is NOT ready. This picture was taken last weekend :) Still have to go to dyno and test. And I think test has to be done in free practice at first race... :)
Rotary Starlet has a new owner. That guy is good, and I am really looking forward to see what he can do. Here is link to his Facebook page. Please go and like and support him:
https://www.facebook.com/rxtonikuhanen?fref=ts
Also, I have talked with Janne, who owns that Rotary Volvo PV. Problems should be sorted now and car has massive power. They are doing few modifications to front end, but other than that, car is ready to race. I really hope that Janne and Volvo will have good season this year.
And Finnish rotary fans and enthusiast have own little page in Facebook. Please take a look and like. ;)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rotary-garage/680409828697430?fref=ts
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Vaiheessa_zps3029f3gy.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Vaiheessa_zps3029f3gy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on May 10, 2015, 09:11:38 PM
Post by: Casey on May 10, 2015, 09:11:38 PM
What a great garage space, with a pit too :P :P
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 11, 2015, 05:21:34 AM
Post by: re japi on May 11, 2015, 05:21:34 AM
Yes, Janne has nice, good garage. He does car services for living. Easy to work when stuff are professional...
Well, he had car at dyno few days ago. After warm up, got ignition good to go. Then they felt vibration. Then massive explosion :P
New lighter drive shaft didnt like Volvo power. ;)
Yesterday we looked at damages. Gearbox out shaft took a hit. Luckily Janne has spare parts and he started to rebuild gearbox with a guru.
Still have lots to do. Dyno, test and some stuff to car. No hurry, in friday we should be racing :D
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/kartaani_zpseneildqi.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/kartaani_zpseneildqi.jpg.html)
Well, he had car at dyno few days ago. After warm up, got ignition good to go. Then they felt vibration. Then massive explosion :P
New lighter drive shaft didnt like Volvo power. ;)
Yesterday we looked at damages. Gearbox out shaft took a hit. Luckily Janne has spare parts and he started to rebuild gearbox with a guru.
Still have lots to do. Dyno, test and some stuff to car. No hurry, in friday we should be racing :D
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/kartaani_zpseneildqi.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/kartaani_zpseneildqi.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2015, 06:33:50 AM
Post by: boosted on May 11, 2015, 06:33:50 AM
Jesus! If that happens in my car i would be cut in half!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2015, 08:55:23 AM
Post by: Casey on May 11, 2015, 08:55:23 AM
??? ??? ??? Just wow, some forces at work there :eek:
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 11, 2015, 01:28:16 PM
Post by: re japi on May 11, 2015, 01:28:16 PM
Excantly. Those things are not jokes. Janne said that he was lucky that he remembered to put drive shafts "blast shields" to the shaft/gear box tunnel. Actually, that shield broke in impact. And exhaust got a massive hit. Also there is lots of impact marks in tunnel...
Janne said also that when shaft exploded, everyone within 100m radius had little bit poop in their pants ;)
Janne said also that when shaft exploded, everyone within 100m radius had little bit poop in their pants ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on May 18, 2015, 06:54:51 PM
Post by: re japi on May 18, 2015, 06:54:51 PM
Well, last saturday we had first round of our rallycross series. I really like Kouvola´s Tykkimäki circuit. Had fun again. :) This series is really growing, lots of new drivers and cars. We have 40 racers in this series now!
Janne´s Lada was going great, nothing broke. Janne didnt trust the car, because he didnt do any testing. Car was only driven on dyno and to trailer. And first two test runs in race, he had no front brakes. :P But during race day, he got more confidence to car so his time improved. Unfortunatly, he didnt get to finals, position 20th. "Big block" Volvo engine is awesome. He has more power and torgue than his previous Opel engine, even though engine didnt rev and didnt make power above 7000rpm. So he is missing some horses. But time to do some testing, next round is in three weeks...
Another Janne´s Volvo Pv with rotary was doing great too. They didnt have last years problems, and car performed well. Driver was smiling :) Last years hard work is paying off now. Unfortunatly, he wasnt fast enough this time, so he was 21st.
This picture is from friday night, getting ready. Weird thing is that people just low this car. We really dont know why :) But its well made and looks quite good, so maybe thats why...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Lada_zpsbf6nybna.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Lada_zpsbf6nybna.jpg.html)
Picture is from saturdays morning practice. I think Janne was nervous..
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Lada%201_zpswq2ygn8o.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Lada%201_zpswq2ygn8o.jpg.html)
Top 3 in autocross. Winner, Vesa was last years champion with his awesome Fiat X1/9. He really deserved than win. Last week he had about 10 hours sleep. He broke his engine less that week ago :D
3rd was Toni Kuhanen, with Rotary Starlet. Previous owner Toni Niemi sold his 2013 winner car(green) and now its is in Toni K´s hands. Toni is also really really good driver, and this was his first rallycross even. Really looking forward to see his driving..
2nd was some 16 year old dude!!!! He was really fast, really impressive! Looking forward to see how far he can go...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Winners_zpsf0cu4msu.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Winners_zpsf0cu4msu.jpg.html)
Here is a little clip (phone image). 2 heats. First has blue rotary Volvo and orange rotary Starlet, second heat has Janne`s Lada...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/th_Kisa_zpswnclp4pu.mp4) (http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Kisa_zpswnclp4pu.mp4)
Janne´s Lada was going great, nothing broke. Janne didnt trust the car, because he didnt do any testing. Car was only driven on dyno and to trailer. And first two test runs in race, he had no front brakes. :P But during race day, he got more confidence to car so his time improved. Unfortunatly, he didnt get to finals, position 20th. "Big block" Volvo engine is awesome. He has more power and torgue than his previous Opel engine, even though engine didnt rev and didnt make power above 7000rpm. So he is missing some horses. But time to do some testing, next round is in three weeks...
Another Janne´s Volvo Pv with rotary was doing great too. They didnt have last years problems, and car performed well. Driver was smiling :) Last years hard work is paying off now. Unfortunatly, he wasnt fast enough this time, so he was 21st.
This picture is from friday night, getting ready. Weird thing is that people just low this car. We really dont know why :) But its well made and looks quite good, so maybe thats why...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Lada_zpsbf6nybna.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Lada_zpsbf6nybna.jpg.html)
Picture is from saturdays morning practice. I think Janne was nervous..
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Lada%201_zpswq2ygn8o.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Lada%201_zpswq2ygn8o.jpg.html)
Top 3 in autocross. Winner, Vesa was last years champion with his awesome Fiat X1/9. He really deserved than win. Last week he had about 10 hours sleep. He broke his engine less that week ago :D
3rd was Toni Kuhanen, with Rotary Starlet. Previous owner Toni Niemi sold his 2013 winner car(green) and now its is in Toni K´s hands. Toni is also really really good driver, and this was his first rallycross even. Really looking forward to see his driving..
2nd was some 16 year old dude!!!! He was really fast, really impressive! Looking forward to see how far he can go...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Winners_zpsf0cu4msu.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Winners_zpsf0cu4msu.jpg.html)
Here is a little clip (phone image). 2 heats. First has blue rotary Volvo and orange rotary Starlet, second heat has Janne`s Lada...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/th_Kisa_zpswnclp4pu.mp4) (http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Kisa_zpswnclp4pu.mp4)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2015, 06:48:03 AM
Post by: re japi on June 09, 2015, 06:48:03 AM
Finally bro and dad have made some progress with car. Hopefully, it will be ready after our summer vacations. :)
Also, second rallycross event was in last weekend. Series really is growing, over 40 cars in our class, about 20 cars in SRC class and over 15 super cars. Lots of new faces too. Circuit had new tarmac in start so that made some problems, cars were not launching because it was so slippery. We managed to get only one decent launch... :/
Janne´s Lada were good, no problems. Just wasnt fast enough this time, position 19 so we were 5points short to get to finals. Now engine gets upgrade backage, so hopefully Janne gets that +1500rpms, 20 horses and 30nm what he is missing now. Chassis and suspension is working just great. I just love being in Janne´s crew, we dont have to work with car because car is always in good condition. There is some teams that has to work in middle of night and between every heat... :)
Rotary Volvo was good too, no problems. Car sounds and looks amazing! Unfortunatly in 4th heat, first turn had 3 cars side by side. Volvo got hitted, so he spinned out... :/ But thats racing...
Rotary Starlet was flying also. But in C finals, because of that new tarmac, car just dindt launch so that was it. Impossible to fight from last position...
Clip from Supercar final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyP6guvwK4w
Clip from Autocross final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhDMKPbA0ao
In-car action from MR2 in Autocross final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qn_wZ1biS8
We have In-car camera in Lada, so hopefully we can put those vids here too someday :)
Also, second rallycross event was in last weekend. Series really is growing, over 40 cars in our class, about 20 cars in SRC class and over 15 super cars. Lots of new faces too. Circuit had new tarmac in start so that made some problems, cars were not launching because it was so slippery. We managed to get only one decent launch... :/
Janne´s Lada were good, no problems. Just wasnt fast enough this time, position 19 so we were 5points short to get to finals. Now engine gets upgrade backage, so hopefully Janne gets that +1500rpms, 20 horses and 30nm what he is missing now. Chassis and suspension is working just great. I just love being in Janne´s crew, we dont have to work with car because car is always in good condition. There is some teams that has to work in middle of night and between every heat... :)
Rotary Volvo was good too, no problems. Car sounds and looks amazing! Unfortunatly in 4th heat, first turn had 3 cars side by side. Volvo got hitted, so he spinned out... :/ But thats racing...
Rotary Starlet was flying also. But in C finals, because of that new tarmac, car just dindt launch so that was it. Impossible to fight from last position...
Clip from Supercar final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyP6guvwK4w
Clip from Autocross final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhDMKPbA0ao
In-car action from MR2 in Autocross final https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qn_wZ1biS8
We have In-car camera in Lada, so hopefully we can put those vids here too someday :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2015, 05:59:25 AM
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2015, 05:59:25 AM
3rd rallycross event was last weekend. Well, what can I say about it...
Everything was shit. No bathrooms, no electricity, nothing was good (or even decent) basically. Me and bro had to bring electricity to our side of pits because it wasnt done when we got there. Track is crap, really stupid layout, really bad condition...
Lada had problems before this event so engine builder Seppo Kallonen really had to work with it. 3 dyno session, removed Haltech and back to old dizzy. But now engine is awesome. Massive torgue from low revs. Power really jumps up at 4000rpm. Max is about 250hp and 290nm. Lines crosses at 7000 and limiter is at 9000rpm. ;) Also made some upgaredes to suspension. Unfortunatly, we werent fast enough this time, position 24 so no finals. Next picture sums our weekend basically...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/jep%20jep_zps9veq1kdo.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/jep%20jep_zps9veq1kdo.jpg.html)
Then that track. After 3 autocross start, 5 cars were destroyed or badly beaten! It was dangerous. Drives say that we wont race. After long discussion, they were forced to make "adjustments" to track. But track surface was allready gone and it was obvious that cars will be getting beaten in that track...
This Escort was rebuilded for this season. It was beautiful. Driver is ok though....
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/auts_zpsmijicjd4.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/auts_zpsmijicjd4.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/auts1_zps3shkyt6k.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/auts1_zps3shkyt6k.jpg.html)
Well, rotary Volvo was flying. He managed to get to the finals. But before that, oil sump was beaten and bent oil pick up. So he loosed oil pressure and forced to retire. So that was tracks fault too...
Rotary Starlet was flying also. He had no problems. But in C finals, he rear ended someone so that was it...
And that was that even... We are not going back there, ever... :/
Everything was shit. No bathrooms, no electricity, nothing was good (or even decent) basically. Me and bro had to bring electricity to our side of pits because it wasnt done when we got there. Track is crap, really stupid layout, really bad condition...
Lada had problems before this event so engine builder Seppo Kallonen really had to work with it. 3 dyno session, removed Haltech and back to old dizzy. But now engine is awesome. Massive torgue from low revs. Power really jumps up at 4000rpm. Max is about 250hp and 290nm. Lines crosses at 7000 and limiter is at 9000rpm. ;) Also made some upgaredes to suspension. Unfortunatly, we werent fast enough this time, position 24 so no finals. Next picture sums our weekend basically...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/jep%20jep_zps9veq1kdo.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/jep%20jep_zps9veq1kdo.jpg.html)
Then that track. After 3 autocross start, 5 cars were destroyed or badly beaten! It was dangerous. Drives say that we wont race. After long discussion, they were forced to make "adjustments" to track. But track surface was allready gone and it was obvious that cars will be getting beaten in that track...
This Escort was rebuilded for this season. It was beautiful. Driver is ok though....
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/auts_zpsmijicjd4.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/auts_zpsmijicjd4.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/auts1_zps3shkyt6k.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/auts1_zps3shkyt6k.jpg.html)
Well, rotary Volvo was flying. He managed to get to the finals. But before that, oil sump was beaten and bent oil pick up. So he loosed oil pressure and forced to retire. So that was tracks fault too...
Rotary Starlet was flying also. He had no problems. But in C finals, he rear ended someone so that was it...
And that was that even... We are not going back there, ever... :/
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on July 20, 2015, 08:26:54 AM
Post by: clive on July 20, 2015, 08:26:54 AM
Real sorry you had such a bad weekend, I know what its like to loose a car this way (several times):(
Sorry but I had to smile at the start of the sentence, "Everything was shit. No bathrooms" :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Sorry but I had to smile at the start of the sentence, "Everything was shit. No bathrooms" :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2015, 01:25:43 PM
Yes, I usually use word crap but this time event deserced word shit. I have seen races, rallyes and crosses 37 years now, and I have never seen this kind of chaos and crap anywhere...
Well, good thing is that our car is ok. Just minor battle scars. And I had long talk with our driver yesterday. All is forgotten (almost), and its time to move on. We know that car is fast and really relieble now. We just have to push driver to same level. Next event is in Honkajoki and we love that track. Ready to fight!
Well, good thing is that our car is ok. Just minor battle scars. And I had long talk with our driver yesterday. All is forgotten (almost), and its time to move on. We know that car is fast and really relieble now. We just have to push driver to same level. Next event is in Honkajoki and we love that track. Ready to fight!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 20, 2015, 01:50:39 PM
Post by: boosted on July 20, 2015, 01:50:39 PM
Blimin hell that escorts a wreck.....there fetching mahossive prices here in uk! :(
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 20, 2015, 01:54:00 PM
Post by: boosted on July 20, 2015, 01:54:00 PM
That beers a funny name too....how much do you have to drink before you become "le Coq"!! :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Yes it is. And it was beautiful looking car. :/ And I hate Escorts, so it takes lots for me to say that ;)
Yes, but it tastes good;) quite similar to Stella Artois.
I thought that we finns are cocks even without beer ;)
Yes, but it tastes good;) quite similar to Stella Artois.
I thought that we finns are cocks even without beer ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2015, 12:45:04 AM
Post by: Casey on July 21, 2015, 12:45:04 AM
Sorry to hear you had such an awful weekend Jarno. Can only get better from there, surely :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 23, 2015, 04:57:55 PM
Post by: re japi on July 23, 2015, 04:57:55 PM
Yes, Malcolm. But all is forgotten now. ;) I just feel sorry those who destroyed or hurt their cars. :/
Made some progress to bro´s FB today. I´m happy, she will look awesome when finished... :) We recon that She needs b groub tail spoiler though...
Tuning mirror removed from FD. Looks quite good. And its light weight.
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Peili_zpsczuyzqkq.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Peili_zpsczuyzqkq.jpg.html)
"Rear lights". Bro printed his son and daughter names and painted them on top. Cheap and easy idea and looks good. Notice 51mm spacer...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Takavalo_zpscmhmdl9e.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Takavalo_zpscmhmdl9e.jpg.html)
Rear suspension and stuff. Quite ready, needs some paint though...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Takajousitus_zpskaj0lvz8.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Takajousitus_zpskaj0lvz8.jpg.html)
Some spare FB parts... ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Varapeltejauml_zpsqkhdyjbu.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Varapeltejauml_zpsqkhdyjbu.jpg.html)
Made some progress to bro´s FB today. I´m happy, she will look awesome when finished... :) We recon that She needs b groub tail spoiler though...
Tuning mirror removed from FD. Looks quite good. And its light weight.
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Peili_zpsczuyzqkq.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Peili_zpsczuyzqkq.jpg.html)
"Rear lights". Bro printed his son and daughter names and painted them on top. Cheap and easy idea and looks good. Notice 51mm spacer...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Takavalo_zpscmhmdl9e.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Takavalo_zpscmhmdl9e.jpg.html)
Rear suspension and stuff. Quite ready, needs some paint though...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Takajousitus_zpskaj0lvz8.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Takajousitus_zpskaj0lvz8.jpg.html)
Some spare FB parts... ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Varapeltejauml_zpsqkhdyjbu.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Varapeltejauml_zpsqkhdyjbu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2015, 05:28:19 PM
Post by: boosted on July 23, 2015, 05:28:19 PM
Love that wide rear end looks mean!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2015, 09:00:28 PM
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2015, 09:00:28 PM
Looks great, loving the rear wheel arch work :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 24, 2015, 10:26:48 AM
Post by: re japi on July 24, 2015, 10:26:48 AM
Yes, that bodykit is one of the best looking I have ever seen. Just brilliant that bro was able to use those molds. Possibility is that we will make those kits for sale too... ::) Anyone interested...? ;)
Also, he has made all classfibre hood and nose peace. Just have to find groub B rear wing..
One thing that surprised us is that how much that door weights! It has nothing in side, aluminium inside panel and polycarbonate class. Still very heavy...
At this point I have to say that I´m really proud of my brother! He has done amazing job. With unusual car, using weird components and have done thinks to car that has never been done before basically! And without help. It has been long road... I really wish that you guys and gals some day can see that fatarse FB live! :singing: Cheers!
Also, he has made all classfibre hood and nose peace. Just have to find groub B rear wing..
One thing that surprised us is that how much that door weights! It has nothing in side, aluminium inside panel and polycarbonate class. Still very heavy...
At this point I have to say that I´m really proud of my brother! He has done amazing job. With unusual car, using weird components and have done thinks to car that has never been done before basically! And without help. It has been long road... I really wish that you guys and gals some day can see that fatarse FB live! :singing: Cheers!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 10:14:01 AM
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 10:14:01 AM
Some progress...
Nose, some big holes and gaps but it doesent matter ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Pulleenokka_zpswxyasvwp.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Pulleenokka_zpswxyasvwp.jpg.html)
It really looks like snowplow or something like that. I think it needs to modified, its to low...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Nokka_zps6exu7udn.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Nokka_zps6exu7udn.jpg.html)
Starting to look like a car. All nose panels needs new paint though...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Ylaumlkuva_zps8vpxn9mb.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Ylaumlkuva_zps8vpxn9mb.jpg.html)
Bro´s custom made PPF. Its massive and weights alot but it should take lots of beating ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/PPF_zpslnyddmca.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/PPF_zpslnyddmca.jpg.html)
Nose, some big holes and gaps but it doesent matter ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Pulleenokka_zpswxyasvwp.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Pulleenokka_zpswxyasvwp.jpg.html)
It really looks like snowplow or something like that. I think it needs to modified, its to low...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Nokka_zps6exu7udn.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Nokka_zps6exu7udn.jpg.html)
Starting to look like a car. All nose panels needs new paint though...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/Ylaumlkuva_zps8vpxn9mb.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/Ylaumlkuva_zps8vpxn9mb.jpg.html)
Bro´s custom made PPF. Its massive and weights alot but it should take lots of beating ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Japi/PPF_zpslnyddmca.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Japi/PPF_zpslnyddmca.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on July 29, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
Post by: Casey on July 29, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
Looking good :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
looking smart....front does look a bit low especially for rallycross....maybe a detachable lower skirt that if hits a rock or bottoms out does not rip front bump off.....maybe summit flexible like rally mudgaurd material so its got strength and give also. what colour is it going.....787b colour scheme would be epic! ;D
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 03:47:53 PM
We might have to cut that front bumper half, just under those air intake holes.
All those panels are made only one sheet of classfibre. One sheet is flexible and can take lots of hits and bending. However, when it brakes, it really brakes. Bro has front panels (wings) too which have two sheets of classfibre. But dont know if he is using them...
Rear of the car is allready painted. Its quite basic red. All those class fibre panels were painted too, but paint boiled off. Now they look that they are only primer painted. These red is quite near to original color and its easy to repaint...
Yeah, 787 color would be awesome. :) At first we thought group B colors...
Also, radiator is going to front. Front hasnt got room for FD´s rad, so he is using FB`s stock radiator at the moment. Unfortunatly, there is no room for oil cooler anymore, so he might have run it without it. Dunno if that a good idea though. Thoughts?
And he started to make front suspension system, again... :)
All those panels are made only one sheet of classfibre. One sheet is flexible and can take lots of hits and bending. However, when it brakes, it really brakes. Bro has front panels (wings) too which have two sheets of classfibre. But dont know if he is using them...
Rear of the car is allready painted. Its quite basic red. All those class fibre panels were painted too, but paint boiled off. Now they look that they are only primer painted. These red is quite near to original color and its easy to repaint...
Yeah, 787 color would be awesome. :) At first we thought group B colors...
Also, radiator is going to front. Front hasnt got room for FD´s rad, so he is using FB`s stock radiator at the moment. Unfortunatly, there is no room for oil cooler anymore, so he might have run it without it. Dunno if that a good idea though. Thoughts?
And he started to make front suspension system, again... :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2015, 03:54:44 PM
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2015, 03:54:44 PM
how long is a race... do fb's come with oil cooler as stock and part of overall cooling system ? if yes then think it needs to go in....even if behind rad!or somewhere with some air flow.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2015, 03:56:29 PM
Post by: boosted on July 29, 2015, 03:56:29 PM
fairplay to your bro with fibreglass fabrication....i just end up sticking my hands together with the stuff!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
Yes, Janne with his Lada and Tommi with his Sumbeam Imp has given us lots of info and tricks how to do classfibre. Its not that difficult, its all about prework. You have to have good components (stuff) and good molds.
Btw, this waiting is killing me!!! :c002: I really want to see that fatass brabbing and running. Still needs propshaft shortened, front suspension, and clutch from Carl. That about it...
Btw, this waiting is killing me!!! :c002: I really want to see that fatass brabbing and running. Still needs propshaft shortened, front suspension, and clutch from Carl. That about it...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 04:58:07 PM
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2015, 04:58:07 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 29, 2015, 03:54:44 PM
how long is a race... do fb's come with oil cooler as stock and part of overall cooling system ? if yes then think it needs to go in....even if behind rad!or somewhere with some air flow.
Didnt see this post. :)
Well, race is 3 laps at heats and 6 at finals. Lap is about mile, depends on track. So, just few miles basically...
Fb´s has oil cooler at stock but bro`s engine is based on FD´s or FC´s (or something like that, ask Carl ;) and I think they need that cooler as overall cooling system. Rad is on front now. Cooler used to be in front too...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2015, 03:01:34 AM
Post by: boosted on July 30, 2015, 03:01:34 AM
So max of about 6mins then? Should be fine with standard set up...im struggling temps getting near alarms 15 mins plus.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 30, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Post by: re japi on July 30, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Yes, I think that stock system is enough too. But without cooler, I dont think its going to last long... :/
Im abit worried about that fbs radiator too...
Im abit worried about that fbs radiator too...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 18, 2015, 05:01:40 PM
Post by: re japi on August 18, 2015, 05:01:40 PM
Next rallycross round is in next weekend. We are not going however. Janne wrote to organizer, reason for retirement: lack of professionalism, riducilous organizers and track in previous event. ;)
Well, now bro and me have few days to build his car.
Have anyone heard form Carl H lately?
Sidenote: have you seen show called Cars that rock by Brian Johnson? That man is brilliant, true petrolhead! ;)
Well, now bro and me have few days to build his car.
Have anyone heard form Carl H lately?
Sidenote: have you seen show called Cars that rock by Brian Johnson? That man is brilliant, true petrolhead! ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on August 19, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
Post by: clive on August 19, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
For whatever reason whilst Carl is still around her's not visiting forums saying he is too busy
If you liked the Brian Johnson you would like Chasing Classic Cars with Wayne Carini
If you liked the Brian Johnson you would like Chasing Classic Cars with Wayne Carini
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 11:46:54 AM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 11:46:54 AM
Carls Website is worth a look.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 11:49:24 AM
Post by: boosted on August 19, 2015, 11:49:24 AM
I love chasing cars...wow what a job! Also like car sos great to see ordinary peoples projects finished.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on August 19, 2015, 05:03:30 PM
Post by: re japi on August 19, 2015, 05:03:30 PM
Ok. Thanks Clive.
Yes, I would love to be in Wayne Carrinis shoes ;)
Yes, I would love to be in Wayne Carrinis shoes ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 22, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Post by: re japi on September 22, 2015, 02:30:55 PM
Ok, our RallyCross seasons last event was in last weekend. I wasnt there, I was sick. I really cant tell you how much that pissed me off cause I couldnt go. Really was waiting that event... :/
Anyhoo, Janne´s Lada was doing great. But wasnt fast enough to get to finals. This season wasnt so great for Janne. Some speed is missing, dunno if its car or man. We have to look thru all data we have.
Also Rotary Volvo was going fast but some misfortune at last heat, and he didnt get to finals either. Some bad luck in every race, so his position in leaderboard isnt good either. But car is running good now :)
Rotary Starlet was fast. But his fight ended to B Final. He was 8th overall at that race. And 6th in season leaderboard.
Last years champion, Vesa with his Fiat X1/9 managed to get that crown back again. He was super fast thru season. But he didnt get it cheap. One young dude, I think he is 17 now, was 2nd overall. Not so far behind Vesa in points. And he is SUPER FAST allready. :)
But our friend Tuomas with his MK2 Ford Escort was really getting better thru season. Unfurtunatly, he has have some bad luck in every event. At last event he was REALLY REALLY fast. He clocked second fastest lap time 0.39.1min and was hitting mid and high 0.39min in every lap. Funny thing about those times are that they are really compatible at higher class, SRC. :D Unfortunatly, at B final, his wishbone broke, and he didnt manage to A final... :/
I know you British love your Escorts, so here is in-car video how stupid Escorts should be driven ;)
https://www.facebook.com/116958901757124/videos/804745199645154/
Oh, and SuperCar champion is Niclas Grönholm. I bet you know who he is...? :)
Overall feelings about this season are positive. Some really good fights and racing. New cars and drivers. New friends and new info and knowlidge. Really looking forward next season :)
Anyhoo, Janne´s Lada was doing great. But wasnt fast enough to get to finals. This season wasnt so great for Janne. Some speed is missing, dunno if its car or man. We have to look thru all data we have.
Also Rotary Volvo was going fast but some misfortune at last heat, and he didnt get to finals either. Some bad luck in every race, so his position in leaderboard isnt good either. But car is running good now :)
Rotary Starlet was fast. But his fight ended to B Final. He was 8th overall at that race. And 6th in season leaderboard.
Last years champion, Vesa with his Fiat X1/9 managed to get that crown back again. He was super fast thru season. But he didnt get it cheap. One young dude, I think he is 17 now, was 2nd overall. Not so far behind Vesa in points. And he is SUPER FAST allready. :)
But our friend Tuomas with his MK2 Ford Escort was really getting better thru season. Unfurtunatly, he has have some bad luck in every event. At last event he was REALLY REALLY fast. He clocked second fastest lap time 0.39.1min and was hitting mid and high 0.39min in every lap. Funny thing about those times are that they are really compatible at higher class, SRC. :D Unfortunatly, at B final, his wishbone broke, and he didnt manage to A final... :/
I know you British love your Escorts, so here is in-car video how stupid Escorts should be driven ;)
https://www.facebook.com/116958901757124/videos/804745199645154/
Oh, and SuperCar champion is Niclas Grönholm. I bet you know who he is...? :)
Overall feelings about this season are positive. Some really good fights and racing. New cars and drivers. New friends and new info and knowlidge. Really looking forward next season :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on September 27, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
Post by: re japi on September 27, 2015, 06:51:55 PM
Just watched tv show that featured Idris Elba visiting Finland with Ari Vatanen. :)
Quite a good show. Showed our country at is best, forest and lakes at summer.
One thing I noticed, I think Idris understood Finnish mentality and how we are like. :)
And yes, when in sauna, you are naked! No towels, and 100 celsius temperature :D
Quite a good show. Showed our country at is best, forest and lakes at summer.
One thing I noticed, I think Idris understood Finnish mentality and how we are like. :)
And yes, when in sauna, you are naked! No towels, and 100 celsius temperature :D
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 15, 2015, 04:10:21 AM
Post by: re japi on October 15, 2015, 04:10:21 AM
Yesterday we tested Janne´s Lada, alot :) Thru all season, problems were getting of the line, launches... It was too stiff, so coilovers were rebuilt after last event. Finally we did get some desent setup to back coilovers and links. Now it does 0-60kmh 2,1seks and 0-100kmh 5,1seks on semislicks. Last years was 0-60 1,8 and 0-100 4,8 with slicks...
Now its time to figure out front setup. Front coilovers needs to be rebuilded too. They are very stiff...
Car was very good, clocking good times. But finally, after all season beating, something finally broke. One spark plug :D
Now its time to figure out front setup. Front coilovers needs to be rebuilded too. They are very stiff...
Car was very good, clocking good times. But finally, after all season beating, something finally broke. One spark plug :D
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 12:29:04 PM
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 12:29:04 PM
Latest progres.
Office is almost ready.
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0046_zps647kr3kk.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0046_zps647kr3kk.jpg.html)
Front suspension, version 3 I think, almost ready. Also this photo shows that front is quite "empty".
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0048_zps3w2nnmxo.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0048_zps3w2nnmxo.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0045_zpsup8rgq4k.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0045_zpsup8rgq4k.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0044_zps9lpaskco.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0044_zps9lpaskco.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0047_zpsnzsgyfdb.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0047_zpsnzsgyfdb.jpg.html)
Office is almost ready.
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0046_zps647kr3kk.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0046_zps647kr3kk.jpg.html)
Front suspension, version 3 I think, almost ready. Also this photo shows that front is quite "empty".
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0048_zps3w2nnmxo.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0048_zps3w2nnmxo.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0045_zpsup8rgq4k.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0045_zpsup8rgq4k.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0044_zps9lpaskco.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0044_zps9lpaskco.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0047_zpsnzsgyfdb.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0047_zpsnzsgyfdb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on November 29, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
Post by: boosted on November 29, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
Just an observation...the coilover units are upside down? Is there a reason for this?. Also you only have 1 locking collar on the spring....needs loads of preload to keep them secure....worth fitting a 2nd....cost me dearly.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 04:09:57 PM
Reason for coilover is upside down is quite simple actually: less weight to that coilover to handle...
Im not sure if I can explain it but, when coilover is in normal position it has to handle its own weight too. When it is upside down, it has to handle only weight of that narrow shaft. When there is minimum amount of weight for that coilover to handle, it reacts and moves faster. Thats why many use motorbike brakes, they weight nothing. And thats why wishbones and all that crap is custom made from little pipe metal. :)
Lets say normal FB or FD suspension setup with brakes, wheels and so on weight 25-30kilos(no idea what they weight), with custom setup you can drop it some where 10-15kg maybe. So, if suspension can react and move faster, all that useless weight is turned to our advantage... :)
In bro´s car brake components are still FD parts, at this point. He will change them if this setup works...
It has only one locking collar cause it doesent need another. It has quite big preload. Its snow mobiles, so its suppose to work that way, I quess :) But dunno if he is going to get little preload spring to it...
Im not sure if I can explain it but, when coilover is in normal position it has to handle its own weight too. When it is upside down, it has to handle only weight of that narrow shaft. When there is minimum amount of weight for that coilover to handle, it reacts and moves faster. Thats why many use motorbike brakes, they weight nothing. And thats why wishbones and all that crap is custom made from little pipe metal. :)
Lets say normal FB or FD suspension setup with brakes, wheels and so on weight 25-30kilos(no idea what they weight), with custom setup you can drop it some where 10-15kg maybe. So, if suspension can react and move faster, all that useless weight is turned to our advantage... :)
In bro´s car brake components are still FD parts, at this point. He will change them if this setup works...
It has only one locking collar cause it doesent need another. It has quite big preload. Its snow mobiles, so its suppose to work that way, I quess :) But dunno if he is going to get little preload spring to it...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 04:26:03 PM
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 04:26:03 PM
Oh, and little side note: Both Finns have idiot pitcrews in F1...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on November 29, 2015, 04:34:39 PM
Post by: boosted on November 29, 2015, 04:34:39 PM
Ok that explains it. Reducing unsprung weight...i no nothing about rally cross. Suspension did remind me off a tamiya grass hopper i had as a kid. Built for punishment.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 06:56:33 PM
Post by: re japi on November 29, 2015, 06:56:33 PM
Yes exactly. I tryed to say unsprung weight but didnt know how :D
Actuall, same principles are in track racing. For example "little formulas". Do you know monocoilover suspension system what they use in front ? Same idea basically. :) There is many different variatios but purpose is the same
Actuall, same principles are in track racing. For example "little formulas". Do you know monocoilover suspension system what they use in front ? Same idea basically. :) There is many different variatios but purpose is the same
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on November 29, 2015, 07:32:36 PM
Post by: boosted on November 29, 2015, 07:32:36 PM
Ive been reading up on suspension...minefield.
Mono coilover.....is that inboard shocks?
Mono coilover.....is that inboard shocks?
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 06:09:23 AM
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 06:09:23 AM
Yes, suspension things makes brain hurt. :/
We have been very lucky that Janne (lada owner) and few others have helped us. For example angle and position of four links where they mounts to rear axle, makes a LOT differense... Little a bit in wrong position, car wont jump of the line... (And angle of propshaft too ;) but its another story)
Yes it is. Mono coilover is really weird looking thing. I cant even want to try explain it, my english isnt good enough :) But its really old system, I think its from 70s... If you google something like F2000 or Formula Renault, they should have similar system...
We have been very lucky that Janne (lada owner) and few others have helped us. For example angle and position of four links where they mounts to rear axle, makes a LOT differense... Little a bit in wrong position, car wont jump of the line... (And angle of propshaft too ;) but its another story)
Yes it is. Mono coilover is really weird looking thing. I cant even want to try explain it, my english isnt good enough :) But its really old system, I think its from 70s... If you google something like F2000 or Formula Renault, they should have similar system...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 07:15:46 AM
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 07:15:46 AM
Google mono shock formula, that gives you lots of pics...
Also here is link to our friends build picks. Check out his rear suspension setup
http://www.autohuoltokallonen.fi/albumi/harrastukset/projektit/kilpa-autot/volvo544rallicross/?p=1
Also here is link to our friends build picks. Check out his rear suspension setup
http://www.autohuoltokallonen.fi/albumi/harrastukset/projektit/kilpa-autot/volvo544rallicross/?p=1
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on November 30, 2015, 08:33:10 AM
Post by: clive on November 30, 2015, 08:33:10 AM
Wow, the Mono shock thing is a little confusing.
With Mono meaning single, the only logic I can make, is that years ago springs and shocks were two separate units so I presume mono just means both the shock and the spring become one Mono unit.
The racing car thing poked my memory as their has been a single seater formula for years and years called Mono Posto , which translates to single-seat
p.s the upside down shock makes sense reducing unsprung weight, because if the mass weight of the suspension system is reduced the shock responds better as its controlling reduced weight.
With Mono meaning single, the only logic I can make, is that years ago springs and shocks were two separate units so I presume mono just means both the shock and the spring become one Mono unit.
The racing car thing poked my memory as their has been a single seater formula for years and years called Mono Posto , which translates to single-seat
p.s the upside down shock makes sense reducing unsprung weight, because if the mass weight of the suspension system is reduced the shock responds better as its controlling reduced weight.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
Been reading researching up to look at ways off converting westfield from live to fully independent...its major chassis surgery and prob something i need a specialist todo. I have not not got the terminology to explain but a few mm or degress out and its goona handle like pigs ear lol.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 11:02:01 AM
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 11:02:01 AM
Quote from: clive on November 30, 2015, 08:33:10 AM
Wow, the Mono shock thing is a little confusing.
With Mono meaning single, the only logic I can make, is that years ago springs and shocks were two separate units so I presume mono just means both the shock and the spring become one Mono unit.
The racing car thing poked my memory as their has been a single seater formula for years and years called Mono Posto , which translates to single-seat
p.s the upside down shock makes sense reducing unsprung weight, because if the mass weight of the suspension system is reduced the shock responds better as its controlling reduced weight.
Yes its quite weird unit. :) But it really has only ONE coilover and basically two shafts from both sides pushing it. Of course there is many versions, but idea is the same. Believe me, I dont understand how that works and I have been studying it a bit :D That unit what kind of converts shock from shaft to torgue to shock to coilover is really confusing...
Same pricipals and idea can use in any terrain, doesent matter what you race. Thats´s the coal if you really want your suspension and tires to work in their full potential...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 11:13:29 AM
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 11:13:29 AM
Quote from: boosted on November 30, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
Been reading researching up to look at ways off converting westfield from live to fully independent...its major chassis surgery and prob something i need a specialist todo. I have not not got the terminology to explain but a few mm or degress out and its goona handle like pigs ear lol.
What we have learned with Janne´s Lada is that even if some guru says something, it doesent mean that its going to work on your car necessarely. We have data and drivers gut feeling to prove it. And you have to understand that Lada has 3rd evo version suspension on front and I think that 6th on back. And he is going to modify it again... It has been a LONG road to get that suspension to work...
With current rear on Westory, I wouldnt change anything. Maybe just link positions on chassis and axle. If you change different rear to it, then its different thing, I would go with fully independent, just because cambers, casters, toes and so on. Then again, I dont know crap about Westfields... :D
Easyest way might be to do what bro did. Swap FD´s or 8´s all rear with subframe and bolt it to Westies subframe...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
Post by: boosted on November 30, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
Rx8 is too big unfortunately. Prob mk1 mx5....gotta borrow 1 and measure up.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 01:58:09 PM
Post by: re japi on November 30, 2015, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 30, 2015, 11:17:38 AM
Rx8 is too big unfortunately. Prob mk1 mx5....gotta borrow 1 and measure up.
Crap, I forgot that. :) But if going to use MX5 unit, you should use mk2 "big blocks". Its better, takes more beating. And if I remember correctly, more easier to find LSD and rations...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 01, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
Post by: re japi on December 01, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
Oh and Jon, if I´m coming to your area in spring and you let me, I can give you some tips how to do that rear. Its impossible for me to tell them in here, better in person and with a car on stands ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2015, 06:41:05 PM
Post by: boosted on December 01, 2015, 06:41:05 PM
Yep no worries.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 05:19:54 AM
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 05:19:54 AM
Wow, this topic has 8,453 Views!!! ???
And I have done 1506 posts.. Well, I think that about 1400 of them were unnessecary and contained crap :))
And I have done 1506 posts.. Well, I think that about 1400 of them were unnessecary and contained crap :))
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on December 02, 2015, 10:49:57 AM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2015, 10:49:57 AM
Well done with the views, shows people are interested in your project.
Dont worry about the 1400 posts, i'm sure they were good crap :0012397:
Dont worry about the 1400 posts, i'm sure they were good crap :0012397:
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 11:07:43 AM
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 11:07:43 AM
Yes, that surprised me. ??? But actually make sense cause no one nowadays builds FB´s, especially that far...
Good crap? Is there that kind of crap...? :))
Good crap? Is there that kind of crap...? :))
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on December 02, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
Post by: clive on December 02, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
Good crap? Is there that kind of crap...? :))-----------------O' Yes ;)
Not many posts but some excellent builds going on here on Mazdarotaryclub including yours :wee_hee:
Not many posts but some excellent builds going on here on Mazdarotaryclub including yours :wee_hee:
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Post by: boosted on December 02, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
Quality not quantity!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: re japi on December 02, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
Lol... I have to rely on quantity cause quality it self contains crap if it comes out of my mouth :D
It has been many many years when that car moved on its own... :/ wanna hear some brap brap and fast... and my 12A is still getting dirty in my garage...
It has been many many years when that car moved on its own... :/ wanna hear some brap brap and fast... and my 12A is still getting dirty in my garage...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on December 03, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
Post by: jynkkis on December 03, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 29, 2015, 12:35:20 PMHi Jon. coilover is upside down just cos it wont fit in otherway. You are right about locking collar. I havent have time yet to hunt couple of them more. Allso i do need stronger springs so extra locking is important. Those one are for 25-35kg springs and i need 45-55kg springs. And for unsprung weight... she will have motorcycle brakecalipers and custom made lightweight plates( in 2058) it saves 20-25kg off from 1 axel. Some sayd that 1kg on tyre = 7kg on chassi. Those brakes are commonly used on finnish rallycross, and they do work well. heat is short and speeds are under 100miles/h so they wont suffer so much on hard brakings. I just have to learn not to lay on brakepedal with my left foot.
Just an observation...the coilover units are upside down? Is there a reason for this?. Also you only have 1 locking collar on the spring....needs loads of preload to keep them secure....worth fitting a 2nd....cost me dearly.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on December 03, 2015, 02:54:30 PM
Post by: jynkkis on December 03, 2015, 02:54:30 PM
Btw. I am japis bro, the one whom dreams about driving that red beast some day.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2015, 05:35:41 PM
Post by: re japi on December 03, 2015, 05:35:41 PM
Well, Ill be damned, didnt trust that this day will come, it did take about 10 years: Moron desided to introduce him self :))
Anywhoo, hopefully he will be here to answer your questions and so on :)
Anywhoo, hopefully he will be here to answer your questions and so on :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on December 03, 2015, 09:04:33 PM
Post by: Casey on December 03, 2015, 09:04:33 PM
Welcome jynkkis - two mad Finns on here now, can we cope ;) :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2015, 06:37:25 AM
Post by: re japi on December 04, 2015, 06:37:25 AM
Actually, there is few Finns more in here but they are not active...
Lol Malc, you will be fine, just give us few pints and some stupid car to work with and we will be quite calm ;) :D
Oh btw, I made Rallycross Finland community and Rallycross Finland closed group some time ago. Please check, join and support us :)
https://www.facebook.com/Rallicross-Finland-1629706597308751/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/866029886823012/
Thanks :)
Lol Malc, you will be fine, just give us few pints and some stupid car to work with and we will be quite calm ;) :D
Oh btw, I made Rallycross Finland community and Rallycross Finland closed group some time ago. Please check, join and support us :)
https://www.facebook.com/Rallicross-Finland-1629706597308751/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/866029886823012/
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2015, 11:31:47 AM
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2015, 11:31:47 AM
Hey Clive, me and bro was just checking out cluthses on MRP page and noticed that lots of Exedy products are missing? Change of inventory or...?
Sidenote: Just purchased new winter tyres for my sockermom car... 580â,¬! Dammit! I hate winter... :sign0135:
Sidenote: Just purchased new winter tyres for my sockermom car... 580â,¬! Dammit! I hate winter... :sign0135:
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2015, 06:00:07 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2015, 06:00:07 AM
Wow Iv missed a few posts on here!! Car is looking amazing.
Still got a couple of pages to read. Did you sort the oil cooler positioning? If not why can't you put it inside the cabin? Best place for it IMO as it won't get damaged and take out your oil system/engine and it will be on. The car for cooking
Only drag cars can really run without oil cooling because they just don't run long enough to warm up the oil to working temp to then be cooked
Still got a couple of pages to read. Did you sort the oil cooler positioning? If not why can't you put it inside the cabin? Best place for it IMO as it won't get damaged and take out your oil system/engine and it will be on. The car for cooking
Only drag cars can really run without oil cooling because they just don't run long enough to warm up the oil to working temp to then be cooked
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 06:25:43 AM
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 06:25:43 AM
Not sure about oil cooling. I think bro is using single FD cooler, but its not sure about position yet... Inside cabin is not allowed.
Also he desided to use FB´s little radiator in front. He custom made brakets for two little electric fans...
Us, Janne the Lada driver and Seppo the Volvo engine guru have been talking about benefits and disadvantages using front mounted radiator or rear mounted. We came to conclusion that it would be easyest and most efficcient to use in front... Janne and Seppo change there setup to front too..
Besides, bros FB has so much room in front that it is really easy to make air flow to direction he wants...
Also he desided to use FB´s little radiator in front. He custom made brakets for two little electric fans...
Us, Janne the Lada driver and Seppo the Volvo engine guru have been talking about benefits and disadvantages using front mounted radiator or rear mounted. We came to conclusion that it would be easyest and most efficcient to use in front... Janne and Seppo change there setup to front too..
Besides, bros FB has so much room in front that it is really easy to make air flow to direction he wants...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on December 09, 2015, 08:19:45 AM
Post by: clive on December 09, 2015, 08:19:45 AM
Quote from: re japi on December 08, 2015, 11:31:47 AM
Hey Clive, me and bro was just checking out cluthses on MRP page and noticed that lots of Exedy products are missing? Change of inventory or...?
Contact me direct and we can either sort out an Exedy Stage 2 paddle clutch with a Racing Beat flywheel, or one of our new range of ATS Carbon clutches which come with the flywheel as an assembly.
BTW You really really need to run two oil coolers as I am sure you now know Rotarys rely on oil cooling soooooo much more than any piston engine.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 08:51:40 AM
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 08:51:40 AM
Ok, thanks. :) He has to figure out what he wants. Dunno about flywheel but I think he wants carbon clutch...
Yes, I know. I would get one big cooler or use those FD twins. But bro is stubborn :)
Yes, I know. I would get one big cooler or use those FD twins. But bro is stubborn :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2015, 12:33:18 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2015, 12:33:18 PM
In my opinion if your going to use a carbon clutch you need a twin disc at least or even a triple as they take a while to get warm to stick properly. I burnt out a carbon single plate on the standard twin turbos in about a month of having it
expensive lesson learnt.
Also if your racing why don't you look into something like Clive uses in his rx8, a tilton?? Very small and light weight. Better engine acceleration.
Defo need the 2 small oil coolers or one larger one
expensive lesson learnt.Also if your racing why don't you look into something like Clive uses in his rx8, a tilton?? Very small and light weight. Better engine acceleration.
Defo need the 2 small oil coolers or one larger one
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2015, 12:59:04 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 09, 2015, 12:59:04 PM
Here's another thought for you...
Although the pod your brother has made looks indestructible, he could have just not bothered with it. He has a roll cage in the car?? He could have just mounted the gear box too this and also the differential to the roll cage, Iv seen a picture a few years back of dragon performances track car that had done this. The rear subframe attached straight too the roll cage, instead of the body which is a lot more flexible than the roll cage. That was on an FD. He also got rid of the pod and attached the gear box too the cage
Although the pod your brother has made looks indestructible, he could have just not bothered with it. He has a roll cage in the car?? He could have just mounted the gear box too this and also the differential to the roll cage, Iv seen a picture a few years back of dragon performances track car that had done this. The rear subframe attached straight too the roll cage, instead of the body which is a lot more flexible than the roll cage. That was on an FD. He also got rid of the pod and attached the gear box too the cage
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
Well Grant, as I said, I really dont know what he want for his clutch. All I know that he wants carbon one and maybe lighter flywheel. He needs to contact Carl and talk about that... But the question now is what kind of system. Cause he want to use 8´s box too and it has different kind clutch system...
Pod?
As for rollcage thing, its better that bro answers to you :)
In early stage of building that car, it was obvious that he is going to use ppf. What kind of system was still open. I think we talked something about bolting everything to rollcage at one point...
But basically rear subframe and coilover towers are custom made and are attached to roll cage...
Pod?
As for rollcage thing, its better that bro answers to you :)
In early stage of building that car, it was obvious that he is going to use ppf. What kind of system was still open. I think we talked something about bolting everything to rollcage at one point...
But basically rear subframe and coilover towers are custom made and are attached to roll cage...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on December 09, 2015, 02:51:46 PM
Post by: jynkkis on December 09, 2015, 02:51:46 PM
Hi All. I will monitor intense oil temp at practice heats, and if it rises too high, i'll assemble one of the fds cooler. Its not that hard to put it right away but I am an idiot and I want to keep weight low, even with a risk.
Subframe is welded to chassy and to roll cage, no usefull pics of it. sorry.
Mazda uses the ppf for some reason, and I have seen a chart that shows it's improving an acceleration by twisting the powerline upwards, much like 4link's lower links on solid rear axel does to the body.
Don´t know if its a fact but I want to test it as I am only one with FlyLowMotorsports Sirocco who use IRS(RWD). They have 12 cm prop shaft. Gearbox is quite far back, as you can imagine. Talking about weight balance....
Carl told me couple years ago, that carbon clutch do slip a bit on could, but I didn't realize it would burn that easily. I just thought that it's good quality at starts if it slips a second. Back in the 80's some build a small shock absorber on clutch pedall to slip it a bit.
Carbon clutch is not compulsory, but its what Carl recommend, and our engine deal includes a flywheel and clutch.
I think he has forget a hole thing and I haven't call him lately(1,5 years). Both do suffer for lack of time.
It has been great to see that our MANKELI threat here has gain so much attention, feedback, opinions and advice for us. We do appreciate it.
Subframe is welded to chassy and to roll cage, no usefull pics of it. sorry.
Mazda uses the ppf for some reason, and I have seen a chart that shows it's improving an acceleration by twisting the powerline upwards, much like 4link's lower links on solid rear axel does to the body.
Don´t know if its a fact but I want to test it as I am only one with FlyLowMotorsports Sirocco who use IRS(RWD). They have 12 cm prop shaft. Gearbox is quite far back, as you can imagine. Talking about weight balance....
Carl told me couple years ago, that carbon clutch do slip a bit on could, but I didn't realize it would burn that easily. I just thought that it's good quality at starts if it slips a second. Back in the 80's some build a small shock absorber on clutch pedall to slip it a bit.
Carbon clutch is not compulsory, but its what Carl recommend, and our engine deal includes a flywheel and clutch.
I think he has forget a hole thing and I haven't call him lately(1,5 years). Both do suffer for lack of time.
It has been great to see that our MANKELI threat here has gain so much attention, feedback, opinions and advice for us. We do appreciate it.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on December 09, 2015, 03:58:58 PM
Post by: clive on December 09, 2015, 03:58:58 PM
Here we go, have a look at this link below, this is perfect for what is needed for Rallycross abuse and is for the RX-8 box.
Not to be confused with any carbon clutches on the market before, indeed Exedy has dropped its Carbon range.
ATS Carbon Fibre RX-8 Clutch and Flywheel Assembly (6 SPEED)
http://www.racingbeateurope.com/bats-carbon-fibre--rx-8--clutch-and-flywheel-assembly-6-speed-b-900-p.asp
Not to be confused with any carbon clutches on the market before, indeed Exedy has dropped its Carbon range.
ATS Carbon Fibre RX-8 Clutch and Flywheel Assembly (6 SPEED)
http://www.racingbeateurope.com/bats-carbon-fibre--rx-8--clutch-and-flywheel-assembly-6-speed-b-900-p.asp
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 08:43:08 PM
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2015, 08:43:08 PM
Thanks Clive :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2015, 10:24:18 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on December 10, 2015, 10:24:18 AM
Yeh those clutches look good.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 19, 2015, 03:03:01 PM
Post by: re japi on December 19, 2015, 03:03:01 PM
Wheels are on. This should be ride height then. Unfortunatly, spring arent strong enough, Juki needs new stiffer ones.
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0058_zpsnp6imqn5.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0058_zpsnp6imqn5.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0059_zps7wttrrfb.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0059_zps7wttrrfb.jpg.html)
Clive, do you sell these? They didnt survive ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0060_zpsqa5rxapp.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0060_zpsqa5rxapp.jpg.html)
Side note: there is no limits in my stupidity. My brains maifunctioned again. On plus side, all my sins should be now forgiven and I have heaven place waiting for me :57:
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0061_zpskeaeuqca.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0061_zpskeaeuqca.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0058_zpsnp6imqn5.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0058_zpsnp6imqn5.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0059_zps7wttrrfb.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0059_zps7wttrrfb.jpg.html)
Clive, do you sell these? They didnt survive ;)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0060_zpsqa5rxapp.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0060_zpsqa5rxapp.jpg.html)
Side note: there is no limits in my stupidity. My brains maifunctioned again. On plus side, all my sins should be now forgiven and I have heaven place waiting for me :57:
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0061_zpskeaeuqca.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0061_zpskeaeuqca.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on December 19, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
Post by: clive on December 19, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
Cars looking good, :)
Leave the lock tab thing with me and I will see if they are still avaliable
Leave the lock tab thing with me and I will see if they are still avaliable
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 20, 2015, 04:46:44 AM
Post by: re japi on December 20, 2015, 04:46:44 AM
Quote from: clive on December 19, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
Cars looking good, :)
Leave the lock tab thing with me and I will see if they are still avaliable
Thank you sir :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 05, 2016, 03:08:38 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 05, 2016, 03:08:38 PM
https://youtu.be/U5TPfzIVM5k
Dont know does the link work, but look at 2.20 and special attension at 3.35. Enjoy
Dont know does the link work, but look at 2.20 and special attension at 3.35. Enjoy
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 05, 2016, 04:20:38 PM
Post by: boosted on January 05, 2016, 04:20:38 PM
Great vid...shame about the Talbot.....very sweet sounding Frikin Brilliant!
lost of expensive classics!
lost of expensive classics!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 06, 2016, 04:10:44 AM
Post by: re japi on January 06, 2016, 04:10:44 AM
Umm, destroyed car was Toyota Starlet... That FB on vid, we actually have two historic class FB´s here. This isnt as stunning as that another is, but still amazing car... Few pics, taken in last spring in Nostalgic Hero Magazine meet...
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0014_zpsewv8dfyd.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0014_zpsewv8dfyd.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0017_zpsddswhw5t.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0017_zpsddswhw5t.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0016_zpscj5jbtkd.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0016_zpscj5jbtkd.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0015_zpss0a2rqx7.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0015_zpss0a2rqx7.jpg.html)
And little update pic from Bro´s dirtkicker. Stupid windscreen wiper electrics are giving us some hard time :)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0067_zpscsx3tmdw.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0067_zpscsx3tmdw.jpg.html)
(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b588/japi_laukkanen/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0014_zpsewv8dfyd.jpg) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/japi_laukkanen/media/Nostalgic%20Hero/DSC_0014_zpsewv8dfyd.jpg.html)
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And little update pic from Bro´s dirtkicker. Stupid windscreen wiper electrics are giving us some hard time :)
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 06, 2016, 11:19:31 AM
Post by: re japi on January 06, 2016, 11:19:31 AM
Finally uploaded some in-car videos from this rallycross season. At this point, 6 vids from Lada. Hopefully you enjoy...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNRpOTqHQsH9R7Ehg5CGujQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNRpOTqHQsH9R7Ehg5CGujQ
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 06, 2016, 06:41:20 PM
Post by: boosted on January 06, 2016, 06:41:20 PM
Dont forget most windscreen wiper motors have an internal circuit ....can give you grief by working for abit then stopping if linkages are tight...been there done that!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 06, 2016, 06:41:55 PM
Post by: boosted on January 06, 2016, 06:41:55 PM
Edit internal circuit breaker inside motor.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
Post by: re japi on January 26, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
Ohh crap... This event would be awesome to see...
https://www.facebook.com/RetroRallycross/posts/985051248235239
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2016, 11:34:36 AM
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2016, 11:34:36 AM
Short teaser how gearbox works...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2016, 05:55:29 PM
Post by: boosted on March 01, 2016, 05:55:29 PM
Thats like a sniper rifle . Lock n load!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2016, 05:56:33 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 01, 2016, 05:56:33 PM
Is that a stock box??
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 02, 2016, 04:41:17 AM
Post by: re japi on March 02, 2016, 04:41:17 AM
Yes, stock box with shortshifter :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2016, 04:48:39 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 02, 2016, 04:48:39 AM
Bad ass!!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on March 31, 2016, 08:32:17 AM
Post by: jynkkis on March 31, 2016, 08:32:17 AM
Grant
About the shifting.... I have to learn to shift very carefully cos that "throughshaft" is still heavy and it is very accurate to shitf 2-3. When I have it made out of lighter material, it doesent need so much force and carefullnes to make that movement from left (1,2) to centergears(3,4). Full acceleration, 2nd gear @9000 rpm, trying to hit 3rd and miss it to 1st. I think the engine may say brab from very high.
I have new springs now at front 250lbs, but i think they should be even stiffer... 275lbs?? Well see after first test. It is hard to estimate right spring because of the shock angle and corner weight is stil just a hunch. Shocks should be shimmed a bit quicker at slowspeedside.
Here is pic of propshaft, original leight and not-that-long-shaft. A big thanks to Janne (lada rallycrosscar driver) and his colleg to shorten my shaft... who else has a foot too long shaft??
Another pic is from the office, where we can find a new oil temperature indicator which is so sexy coloured, it actually gives 3 hp more power. Colour havent yet effect to fanmail pile.
Parts still missing: rearspoiler (comes in next week), oil pressure light sensor(06.05), new rearendgear 5.125 (next winter) , motorcycle brakes(next winter) and clutch and flywheel.
About the shifting.... I have to learn to shift very carefully cos that "throughshaft" is still heavy and it is very accurate to shitf 2-3. When I have it made out of lighter material, it doesent need so much force and carefullnes to make that movement from left (1,2) to centergears(3,4). Full acceleration, 2nd gear @9000 rpm, trying to hit 3rd and miss it to 1st. I think the engine may say brab from very high.
I have new springs now at front 250lbs, but i think they should be even stiffer... 275lbs?? Well see after first test. It is hard to estimate right spring because of the shock angle and corner weight is stil just a hunch. Shocks should be shimmed a bit quicker at slowspeedside.
Here is pic of propshaft, original leight and not-that-long-shaft. A big thanks to Janne (lada rallycrosscar driver) and his colleg to shorten my shaft... who else has a foot too long shaft??
Another pic is from the office, where we can find a new oil temperature indicator which is so sexy coloured, it actually gives 3 hp more power. Colour havent yet effect to fanmail pile.
Parts still missing: rearspoiler (comes in next week), oil pressure light sensor(06.05), new rearendgear 5.125 (next winter) , motorcycle brakes(next winter) and clutch and flywheel.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2016, 08:59:49 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 31, 2016, 08:59:49 AM
That's a tiny shaft!!!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2016, 05:52:35 AM
Post by: re japi on April 12, 2016, 05:52:35 AM
Group B rear wing...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on April 12, 2016, 05:22:55 PM
Post by: jynkkis on April 12, 2016, 05:22:55 PM
The wing is attached with ducktape and needs a bit of sanding. I just put it on late last night for the looks. It has some :angry5: taste.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 05, 2016, 05:50:14 PM
Post by: jynkkis on June 05, 2016, 05:50:14 PM
Is black ok? ☺
Clive, any news about those clutchs ring things?
Clive, any news about those clutchs ring things?
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2016, 06:21:04 PM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2016, 06:21:04 PM
Yep cool go big or go home!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on June 05, 2016, 06:44:22 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2016, 06:44:22 PM
Quote from: jynkkis on June 05, 2016, 05:50:14 PM
Is black ok? ☺
Clive, any news about those clutchs ring things?
Real sorry, what clutch rings ?
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2016, 06:49:53 PM
Post by: boosted on June 05, 2016, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: clive on June 05, 2016, 06:44:22 PMQuote from: jynkkis on June 05, 2016, 05:50:14 PM
Is black ok? ☺
Clive, any news about those clutchs ring things?
Real sorry, what clutch rings ?
i remember page 16 Clive.... ;D
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on June 05, 2016, 07:30:21 PM
Post by: clive on June 05, 2016, 07:30:21 PM
Quote from: boosted on June 05, 2016, 06:49:53 PM
i remember page 16 Clive.... ;D
Whoops, good job your here as my memory man ;D
Looking again, I thought they were locking rings to adjust the front wheel bearings ???
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: mick choi on June 07, 2016, 05:51:39 AM
Post by: mick choi on June 07, 2016, 05:51:39 AM
Quote from: jynkkis on April 12, 2016, 05:22:55 PMBEST looking spoiler for the fb imo as ive got a similar one from Mariahmotorsports which is based on the Daytona imsa fb
The wing is attached with ducktape and needs a bit of sanding. I just put it on late last night for the looks. It has some :angry5: taste.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 07, 2016, 03:13:43 PM
Post by: jynkkis on June 07, 2016, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: mick choi on June 07, 2016, 05:51:39 AMI think its the same model...Quote from: jynkkis on April 12, 2016, 05:22:55 PMBEST looking spoiler for the fb imo as ive got a similar one from Mariahmotorsports which is based on the Daytona imsa fb
The wing is attached with ducktape and needs a bit of sanding. I just put it on late last night for the looks. It has some :angry5: taste.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2016, 04:25:22 PM
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2016, 04:25:22 PM
Bro just phoned me, told me weight results of the car. Front and rear is quite good, but overall weight was surprise to us. He made adjustment and now they all are where they suppose to be. Ill let him to tell you all the result... so... later gents :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
900kg, 48/52 front to rear
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2016, 05:44:09 PM
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2016, 05:44:09 PM
First try 1040kg dry weight, about 46/54. What was surprise is that we thought that its about 1100kg and more weight in back...
Second try after four hours of work was with more even corners weights. Bro made lots of work to get them even and more weight to rear.
Keep in mind that class minimum weight is 1060kg...
Second try after four hours of work was with more even corners weights. Bro made lots of work to get them even and more weight to rear.
Keep in mind that class minimum weight is 1060kg...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
Sure you can make it a bit lighter still
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2016, 08:04:27 PM
Post by: boosted on June 24, 2016, 08:04:27 PM
Helium in tyres...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 08:04:41 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 08:04:41 PM
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 08:16:40 AM
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 08:16:40 AM
Dry weight was 1004,5 kg with huge differens between corners FR/FL 43 kg. After six hour: 1061 kg with 55.5 kg extraweight and corners is looking bit better. FR/FL 9.5 kg
I will post scale sheets and some photos when im done with it.
I will post scale sheets and some photos when im done with it.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 08:21:18 AM
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 08:21:18 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
Sure you can make it a bit lighter still
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Next winter japi will drill small holes to washers, drill holes throw bolts and grind 2mm of from boltheads.
Thats a big task. :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 05:52:00 PM
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 05:52:00 PM
First picture is starting point. I remembered incorrect front weights, but youl get the point. Its horrible un balanced.
Second picture is from the office, where you can see the weigts i used to demostrate drivers and missing flywheel weights.
3. Pic. I needed to use imagination to have 55.5 kgs extra to balance the awfull front and to get her to right battleweight. Orange case is 13 kg of petrol...
4. Pic. Is without "petrol" with 4 kg washerfluid.
5. Pic. With petrol. Mind how front balance slides from right to left depending petrol case. It means, when she has 6.5 kg petrol, shes front balanced and rear is in 1 kg differense. Rear balance doesnt have to be so accurate but front should be should in 10 kg differense in all times.
I cant wait to have those motorcycle brakes, its 36 kgs off, and ill have more extra weight to back. 55.5 + 36 kgs heheheh looking good.
At this point i am pleased even it took almost 10 hours job to balance her this close to perfect. Very pleased.
Next huge job is to get ridof those weights on drivers seat....
Second picture is from the office, where you can see the weigts i used to demostrate drivers and missing flywheel weights.
3. Pic. I needed to use imagination to have 55.5 kgs extra to balance the awfull front and to get her to right battleweight. Orange case is 13 kg of petrol...
4. Pic. Is without "petrol" with 4 kg washerfluid.
5. Pic. With petrol. Mind how front balance slides from right to left depending petrol case. It means, when she has 6.5 kg petrol, shes front balanced and rear is in 1 kg differense. Rear balance doesnt have to be so accurate but front should be should in 10 kg differense in all times.
I cant wait to have those motorcycle brakes, its 36 kgs off, and ill have more extra weight to back. 55.5 + 36 kgs heheheh looking good.
At this point i am pleased even it took almost 10 hours job to balance her this close to perfect. Very pleased.
Next huge job is to get ridof those weights on drivers seat....
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 05:53:44 PM
Post by: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 05:53:44 PM
Pics 4. 5.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2016, 09:04:27 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2016, 09:04:27 AM
Using corner weight scales sure helps. I bet there's a fair few people that build a race car and never even bother to balance their car, I probably wouldn't, but I would do now Iv seen what you can do with it!!
I weigh 96kg so imagine how much my weight would throw out the balance of the car!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 26, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
Post by: jynkkis on June 26, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
:D :) Grant, you are almoust on grown-up weight... if i have to loose weight, it needs more surgical operations. I could waste nails, 1 lung, 1 kidney, half liver and both testies...😊
Specially on gravel, loose traction, balance is important. If front isnt correct it easilly locks up the lighter side, on hard braking. Surely its same situation on wet tarmac.
Specially on gravel, loose traction, balance is important. If front isnt correct it easilly locks up the lighter side, on hard braking. Surely its same situation on wet tarmac.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2016, 10:04:53 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2016, 10:04:53 AM
No amount of weight saving would bring me to losing my tested
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2016, 10:05:04 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2016, 10:05:04 AM
Testes
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 26, 2016, 10:09:28 AM
Post by: re japi on June 26, 2016, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 08:21:18 AMBro allready drilled holes to vipers :) I think weight saving was something like 200g. One dude cutted all his bolts which were too long, on finished car. Weigh loss was about 2kg... :)Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
Sure you can make it a bit lighter still
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Next winter japi will drill small holes to washers, drill holes throw bolts and grind 2mm of from boltheads.
Thats a big task. :)
Also, keep in mind that extra weight isnt bad, if it is in correct place :)
On thing really confuses me is that car is still abit nose heavy. I quess that frame is so heavy...
But as shown in this case, FB can be very light, if you really want to lose some weight of it :D
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 26, 2016, 12:10:16 PM
Post by: re japi on June 26, 2016, 12:10:16 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 26, 2016, 09:04:27 AMYes, balance is everything. Actually funny thing is how weight kind of shift from corner to another corner everything what you do affects on opposite side of car. We learner that watching Janne balancing his Lada.
Using corner weight scales sure helps. I bet there's a fair few people that build a race car and never even bother to balance their car, I probably wouldn't, but I would do now Iv seen what you can do with it!!
I weigh 96kg so imagine how much my weight would throw out the balance of the car!
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One our friend is almost 2m long and weights about 120kg. Volvo PVs cabin is basically full of that dude :)
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 09:28:09 AM
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 09:28:09 AM
Quote from: re japi on June 26, 2016, 10:09:28 AMQuote from: jynkkis on June 25, 2016, 08:21:18 AMBro allready drilled holes to vipers :) I think weight saving was something like 200g. One dude cutted all his bolts which were too long, on finished car. Weigh loss was about 2kg... :)Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 24, 2016, 07:58:06 PM
Sure you can make it a bit lighter still
Next winter japi will drill small holes to washers, drill holes throw bolts and grind 2mm of from boltheads.
Thats a big task. :)
Also, keep in mind that extra weight isnt bad, if it is in correct place :)
On thing really confuses me is that car is still abit nose heavy. I quess that frame is so heavy...
But as shown in this case, FB can be very light, if you really want to lose some weight of it :D
Vipers!?!? I meant wiper arms... :D Yeah, our biggest joy is wonder around with cordless drill and make holes to all snakes we can find :57: That was almost as funny as few years ago I told you that ill be drinking bears... ;) Actually, my favorite beer is called bear :D
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 09:38:45 AM
Oh, and little update from our Rallycross series. After two events, Janne with Lada is currently in 13th position. Janne with rotary Volvo PV 544 is in 15th and Toni with rotary Starlet is in 6th. Our friend with other Volvo PV544 has had some bad luck, so is something like 23rd at the moment...
Pic from Janne´s brapper getting big air in last event...
Pic from Janne´s brapper getting big air in last event...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 27, 2016, 03:18:20 PM
Post by: jynkkis on June 27, 2016, 03:18:20 PM
Wiper arm drilling saved 127g and took over 3 hours. Now i wonder will it last or not... not the right place to save weight, but all is counted. Front inner arces is one place we can make lighter, but im not sure yet will it effect too much to chassisrigidity. Need some planning more.
After new brakes the balance would be 62/38 (632+36)÷1078×100. That would be awesome if the car is still driveable. Now balance is 58/42.
After new brakes the balance would be 62/38 (632+36)÷1078×100. That would be awesome if the car is still driveable. Now balance is 58/42.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2016, 03:51:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2016, 03:51:57 PM
127g I can lose 1kg in about 5 mins by taking 
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 05:23:17 PM
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 05:23:17 PM
Yeah, I was laughing that too :)
Well, bro can't lose weight by losing a dump, cause he doesent eat ;)
Me however, my morning rifle muzzle blast is usually about that 1kg within fraction of a second :D
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Well, bro can't lose weight by losing a dump, cause he doesent eat ;)
Me however, my morning rifle muzzle blast is usually about that 1kg within fraction of a second :D
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 27, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on June 27, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
Post by: jynkkis on June 27, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
After i saw the result i thought that it wasnt time well spend...
Tbh it would be better to have a good lay of cable before start.
Lots of coffee and a bit of thrill should do it in seconds rather than hours of nonsens job.
After i saw the result i thought that it wasnt time well spend...
Tbh it would be better to have a good lay of cable before start.
Lots of coffee and a bit of thrill should do it in seconds rather than hours of nonsens job.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 06:50:20 PM
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2016, 06:50:20 PM
Hmm, when conversation turns to different kind of pooping habbits, its always a good conversation :D
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on June 27, 2016, 07:51:22 PM
Post by: boosted on June 27, 2016, 07:51:22 PM
Ive stayed well outta this poop talk after 2 ops by the swedish chef from the muppets....
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 28, 2016, 05:18:14 AM
Post by: re japi on June 28, 2016, 05:18:14 AM
:57: :))
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 28, 2016, 03:31:29 PM
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 06, 2016, 11:18:56 AM
Post by: jynkkis on July 06, 2016, 11:18:56 AM
So could someone who knows or have done, tell me what mods or parts do i need to use 6speed rx-8 box on a fds engine? ReplaceFlywheels are the same? Clutch is different but is the frictionplate same? Thanks on advance.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 11, 2016, 09:21:09 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 11, 2016, 09:21:09 PM
I'm going to guess at using all rx8 parts, clutch and flywheel along with the gear box?
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 12, 2016, 11:55:44 AM
Post by: jynkkis on July 12, 2016, 11:55:44 AM
Does rx-8 clutchcase fit or should i use 7s Case? Which startmotor?
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2016, 12:22:02 PM
Post by: boosted on July 12, 2016, 12:22:02 PM
Need to wait for Clive to see this for the flywheel/clutch combo...he has an 8 box on his fd engine in his rx8...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on July 12, 2016, 06:41:24 PM
Post by: clive on July 12, 2016, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: jynkkis on July 06, 2016, 11:18:56 AM
So could someone who knows or have done, tell me what mods or parts do i need to use 6speed rx-8 box on a fds engine? ReplaceFlywheels are the same? Clutch is different but is the frictionplate same? Thanks on advance.
If you have an FD flywheel and clutch center plate you can use those with an FC or RX-8 pressure plate and release bearing, then use the RX-8 starter and your there.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2016, 08:27:30 AM
Post by: boosted on July 13, 2016, 08:27:30 AM
I have a spare n3z1 rx8 starter and a exedy rx8 pressure plate i can donate to the project. ( both used but all good, the friction plate shows miminal wear )not sure if standard or uprated numbers are onit. ;D
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 09:21:29 AM
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 09:21:29 AM
I tryed to contact hayward but his mobile isnt on or I have wrong number. He havent respond to My emails but I think I send them to the hacked count and he doesnt use it. So thats My Bad. He would have a opinnion to clutch issue and actually it would be his Job to provide it as I payd for it to him....
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 09:26:19 AM
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 09:26:19 AM
Oh the agony of waiting!!! I want to press the startbutton!!!!!
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on July 14, 2016, 10:13:28 AM
Post by: clive on July 14, 2016, 10:13:28 AM
Quote from: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 09:21:29 AM
I tryed to contact hayward but his mobile isnt on or I have wrong number. He havent respond to My emails but I think I send them to the hacked count and he doesnt use it. So thats My Bad. He would have a opinnion to clutch issue and actually it would be his Job to provide it as I payd for it to him....
Text Carl on 07399 834299.
Can we help on the clutch advise ??
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2016, 10:51:20 AM
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2016, 10:51:20 AM
07950 800088 is what i used couple of months back.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Clive, of course advice is much appreciated.
Jon, I tryed that number but it didnt work. Is Carl on summer vacation? I doubt. Need to try more.
Jon, I tryed that number but it didnt work. Is Carl on summer vacation? I doubt. Need to try more.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2016, 01:13:27 PM
Post by: boosted on July 14, 2016, 01:13:27 PM
Awful mobile phone reception where the garage is. Send a letter? Lol. He could do with an e reception service.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
Post by: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 14, 2016, 01:13:27 PM
Awful mobile phone reception where the garage is. Send a letter? Lol. He could do with an e reception
;D ;D ;D i know Finnish post office. Would be quicker, cheeper and easyer to bring the letter by foot, eventhough UK is an island.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2016, 05:59:21 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 14, 2016, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: jynkkis on July 14, 2016, 09:21:29 AMGetting hold Carl sometimes is like getting a chocolate teapot to work
I tryed to contact hayward but his mobile isnt on or I have wrong number. He havent respond to My emails but I think I send them to the hacked count and he doesnt use it. So thats My Bad. He would have a opinnion to clutch issue and actually it would be his Job to provide it as I payd for it to him....
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 06:17:03 AM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 06:17:03 AM
Little updates from our rallycross series...
So our friend Vesa won, third time in a row, with his Fiat 1/9. And he retired and sold the car...
Toni with his rotary Starlet was 5th, he was really good and consistent thru year...
Janne with his rotary Volvo PV was 18th. Basically last event gave him two points and he did pass our Janne in overall points..
So our Janne with Lada was 19th. Even though that position is not what we were after this year, we have to be happy. More than 43 racers in really really tough series, so 19th is ok result...
After season, a week ago, Janne gave us opportunity to test his Lada at Hyvinkää track. That was wrickin´ fun! ;D I have never driven his car, except moving few meters at pits. And track is unfamiliar to me, only driven few times in street car around it. Conditions were slippery, VERY! ;)
Car is actually really easy to drive. Chassis and suspension works really well, and car isnt as stiff as I thought. Fast steering was a little tricky. Didnt trust brakes at all, with bike brakes, I didnt believe it could stop. Front grip was quite good even in those conditions, no understeer at all. Makes me think that how much front would grip in warmer tyres and tarmac. Rear tyres brakes traction quite easily, because power and cold weather. But even when rear starts to slide, it isnt bad, and you can adapt fast, very neutral, locigal and smooth. Car actually dont like to be in massive slide. Overall rear acceleration grip is good. At any point there wasnt a feeling that Lada would tell me "you made a mistake, you die now" ;) Then that 4 speed dogbox, what can I say, I love it. :P And that engine, good damn its awesome! I was waiting power peak at 4000rpm, but no, power is there immidiately and there is a LOTS of that! There is so much torque that you can drive with higher gear and there where no need to rev it high. I think I didnt went even near rev limiter :eek:
For fun, I just watched my lap times. First round I made about 1:10-1:12, and second round about 1:08. I think I could do 1:02 with few more laps easily. Ofcourse its not near what that car can do. I think Janne best is 0:56:5 at the moment...
So here is a vid, enjoy, even its a bad one :)
https://youtu.be/Z-zVfxbhKGY
So our friend Vesa won, third time in a row, with his Fiat 1/9. And he retired and sold the car...
Toni with his rotary Starlet was 5th, he was really good and consistent thru year...
Janne with his rotary Volvo PV was 18th. Basically last event gave him two points and he did pass our Janne in overall points..
So our Janne with Lada was 19th. Even though that position is not what we were after this year, we have to be happy. More than 43 racers in really really tough series, so 19th is ok result...
After season, a week ago, Janne gave us opportunity to test his Lada at Hyvinkää track. That was wrickin´ fun! ;D I have never driven his car, except moving few meters at pits. And track is unfamiliar to me, only driven few times in street car around it. Conditions were slippery, VERY! ;)
Car is actually really easy to drive. Chassis and suspension works really well, and car isnt as stiff as I thought. Fast steering was a little tricky. Didnt trust brakes at all, with bike brakes, I didnt believe it could stop. Front grip was quite good even in those conditions, no understeer at all. Makes me think that how much front would grip in warmer tyres and tarmac. Rear tyres brakes traction quite easily, because power and cold weather. But even when rear starts to slide, it isnt bad, and you can adapt fast, very neutral, locigal and smooth. Car actually dont like to be in massive slide. Overall rear acceleration grip is good. At any point there wasnt a feeling that Lada would tell me "you made a mistake, you die now" ;) Then that 4 speed dogbox, what can I say, I love it. :P And that engine, good damn its awesome! I was waiting power peak at 4000rpm, but no, power is there immidiately and there is a LOTS of that! There is so much torque that you can drive with higher gear and there where no need to rev it high. I think I didnt went even near rev limiter :eek:
For fun, I just watched my lap times. First round I made about 1:10-1:12, and second round about 1:08. I think I could do 1:02 with few more laps easily. Ofcourse its not near what that car can do. I think Janne best is 0:56:5 at the moment...
So here is a vid, enjoy, even its a bad one :)
https://youtu.be/Z-zVfxbhKGY
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on October 26, 2016, 07:29:03 AM
Post by: clive on October 26, 2016, 07:29:03 AM
Toni with his rotary Starlet was 5th, got any still pictures ?
Always liked a Starlet
Always liked a Starlet
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 09:28:06 AM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 09:28:06 AM
This is only one I got at the moment :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on October 26, 2016, 09:47:16 AM
Post by: boosted on October 26, 2016, 09:47:16 AM
Nice vid better 2nd half when the cloud clears and you can see the track. Done well to jump init and not spin out....looks like a lot of fun.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 04:42:25 PM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 04:42:25 PM
Yes, true. And for second session, I moved cameras angle abit...
I was really really cautious, we knew that track, especially tarmac was almost like it was rained. And one person before me spinned at tarmac ;)
I cant explain how awesome it was! Janne has done amazing job with that car, it's so easy to drive...
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I was really really cautious, we knew that track, especially tarmac was almost like it was rained. And one person before me spinned at tarmac ;)
I cant explain how awesome it was! Janne has done amazing job with that car, it's so easy to drive...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 04:53:20 PM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2016, 04:53:20 PM
Oh, if you want to follow our rallycross rotarys, here are links
https://www.facebook.com/rxtonikuhanen/
https://www.facebook.com/AsikainenMotorsport/
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2016, 05:58:45 AM
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2016, 05:58:45 AM
Forgot to say that testing that Lada I probably used 70-80% of my skills and maybe 40-50% what that car can do :P But I´m not a competition driver...
This year we had drag racing dude helping us with that cars rear setup. We gained lots of "inside" knowlidge how links and stuff works. I have learned alot within a year. And car has improved alot. We can do so aggressive setup to rear links that car is actually faster off the line than rear and mid engined cars! 2,7secs 0-30meters and about 4,5secs 0-100kmh. We did it at 4th round in Oulu and every one was like wtf you have done with that car :) Unfortunately, as you can imagine, drivebility isnt that good then. Now setup is quite neutral and car behaves nice, and rear traction is good. Funny thing is that car doesent understeer under throttle but doesent like to go sideways either...
At the moment car is needs abit more power according to our engine builder), but he promised 20 more horses and maybe 20-30 more torque. Engine is just amazing, no problems at all! In this season, only thing that has failed in races was one spark plug :D
Btw Clive, you should come to see that car live ;) I bet that You guys would love to see our rallycross series action. Even though some cars looks like shit, competition is really amazing and though. I really do believe that our rallycross cars might be the best in the world and drivers are just nutcases... :)
This year we had drag racing dude helping us with that cars rear setup. We gained lots of "inside" knowlidge how links and stuff works. I have learned alot within a year. And car has improved alot. We can do so aggressive setup to rear links that car is actually faster off the line than rear and mid engined cars! 2,7secs 0-30meters and about 4,5secs 0-100kmh. We did it at 4th round in Oulu and every one was like wtf you have done with that car :) Unfortunately, as you can imagine, drivebility isnt that good then. Now setup is quite neutral and car behaves nice, and rear traction is good. Funny thing is that car doesent understeer under throttle but doesent like to go sideways either...
At the moment car is needs abit more power according to our engine builder), but he promised 20 more horses and maybe 20-30 more torque. Engine is just amazing, no problems at all! In this season, only thing that has failed in races was one spark plug :D
Btw Clive, you should come to see that car live ;) I bet that You guys would love to see our rallycross series action. Even though some cars looks like shit, competition is really amazing and though. I really do believe that our rallycross cars might be the best in the world and drivers are just nutcases... :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2016, 06:00:39 AM
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2016, 06:00:39 AM
Me ready to go ;)
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Dunno, if you recognize this gent but he has been at you island ;) He tested Lada as well (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161027/b52312b42abadfeb44ae559663b4369e.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161027/a36d646fb9cced937da09126e087082e.jpg)
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Dunno, if you recognize this gent but he has been at you island ;) He tested Lada as well (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161027/b52312b42abadfeb44ae559663b4369e.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161027/a36d646fb9cced937da09126e087082e.jpg)
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 07, 2017, 02:29:21 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 07, 2017, 02:29:21 PM
Does that waterline to als Look ok?
Dont mind the lower Line leight. Its Just for image.
I dont know why Carl have blocked original lineport, but there Is no other place to put that tank. Does it work that way?
Whats FDs oilcapacity?
What fuelpressure would be correct to carbs? I think Carl did say about 4,6 psi. Does it sound ok?
I am about to start the beast tomorrow for the first time. She leaks drops of oil here and there, but mainly all oil stays in and that Is the mainthing at this point.
It have took a few years to have her this far and I am restless to take her to icetrack this winther, allthougt she needs some running in before redlining...
Dont mind the lower Line leight. Its Just for image.
I dont know why Carl have blocked original lineport, but there Is no other place to put that tank. Does it work that way?
Whats FDs oilcapacity?
What fuelpressure would be correct to carbs? I think Carl did say about 4,6 psi. Does it sound ok?
I am about to start the beast tomorrow for the first time. She leaks drops of oil here and there, but mainly all oil stays in and that Is the mainthing at this point.
It have took a few years to have her this far and I am restless to take her to icetrack this winther, allthougt she needs some running in before redlining...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 05:34:28 PM
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 05:34:28 PM
8.5 litres oil capacity.
dont know about carb fuel pressure.
whar we looking at with coolant filler?
dont know about carb fuel pressure.
whar we looking at with coolant filler?
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 07, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 07, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
I was trying to ad a "pressure tank" or "reserve tank". Dont know the correct word in English. Dont know would that work that way and there are no originall port for some reason.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 07:36:21 PM
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 07:36:21 PM
The cap on the cooling tower is that a sprung cap to hold pressure and vent the excess?
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 07:46:33 PM
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 07:46:33 PM
Ill expand i would think the cap on the cooling tower to not be sprung and the seperate tank to have a sprung tank...then filled to max...so you would need another un pressured tank to allow for push out when hot and drawing back in when cooling....if the cooling tower has a sprung cap then the external tank is being used as an expansion tank and does not need the sprung cap that i see fitted?
So if i see right and assume the cooling tower just has a unsprung cap then you need another tank to allow for expansion.....hope that makes sense. If you need a seperate tank the 1 in your fd wing will do.
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So if i see right and assume the cooling tower just has a unsprung cap then you need another tank to allow for expansion.....hope that makes sense. If you need a seperate tank the 1 in your fd wing will do.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 07:50:41 PM
Post by: boosted on January 07, 2017, 07:50:41 PM
Firing up for first time id squirt loads of oil into sparky holes and crank short burst to build confirmed oil pressure before firing. This wil also check for any oil leaks on any lines before the beast fires up and squirts it everywhere and prime the coolers etc so you can get a decent level in the sump....in addition i would not rev it for at least 10 mins let them bearings have a easy time.
Woo hoo we want a runnning vid !
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on January 08, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
Post by: clive on January 08, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
I use an over flow tank like this and you will find you need to only fill the tank half way to allow for expansion.
If you fill the tank fully it will just push out the water out it does not need, trouble is it will then push out too much water.
If you can draw or show us the full engine bay with the whole radiator/ water system showing.
If you fill the tank fully it will just push out the water out it does not need, trouble is it will then push out too much water.
If you can draw or show us the full engine bay with the whole radiator/ water system showing.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 08, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 08, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
Quote from: clive on January 08, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
I use an over flow tank like this and you will find you need to only fill the tank half way to allow for expansion.
Thats the idea and i hope it goes like that.
Bottom port from tank should go to lower waterline?
I change caps so now expansion tank has the sprungcap. I am a bit unsecure about it.
Enginebay looks litel embarassed now...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on January 10, 2017, 06:00:20 PM
Post by: clive on January 10, 2017, 06:00:20 PM
OK now I see you have an upright radiator all you need is to plumb the system the same as the RX-4
Fit a blank unsprung cap on the radiator then run the outlet pipe from the radiator neck to the over flow tank.
Fill this only half way and put the pressure cap on the overflow tank.
You should have a pipe on top of the rear iron, when filling , let this vent and then reconnect when you see no more air coming out.
If you look at the image below you will see this is how the RX-4 was plumbed as standard.
Hope this helps.
Fit a blank unsprung cap on the radiator then run the outlet pipe from the radiator neck to the over flow tank.
Fill this only half way and put the pressure cap on the overflow tank.
You should have a pipe on top of the rear iron, when filling , let this vent and then reconnect when you see no more air coming out.
If you look at the image below you will see this is how the RX-4 was plumbed as standard.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 12, 2017, 06:00:08 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 12, 2017, 06:00:08 PM
That rear iron venting was a good tip. Thanks Clive.
Pic did help and I think I can put it rightway now.
What about the plastic port at side of rear iron, below oilfilter neck? It goes to radiators lower tube?
Pic did help and I think I can put it rightway now.
What about the plastic port at side of rear iron, below oilfilter neck? It goes to radiators lower tube?
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 12, 2017, 06:01:43 PM
Post by: boosted on January 12, 2017, 06:01:43 PM
On the 7 and 8 thats the feed for the heater matrix so cap if not running a heater.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 12, 2017, 06:22:43 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 12, 2017, 06:22:43 PM
I am an absolut idiot!! Of course. I forgot that the heater even exist. Thank you, raincoated model :)
Your right, this one doesnt have it.
I need to find unsprung cap to radiator and that should do the trick.
Your right, this one doesnt have it.
I need to find unsprung cap to radiator and that should do the trick.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 14, 2017, 05:17:53 AM
Post by: re japi on January 14, 2017, 05:17:53 AM
...RX-4 engine bay... mmm... drooling... :P
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 16, 2017, 03:35:13 PM
Post by: boosted on January 16, 2017, 03:35:13 PM
You got this beast fired up yet?
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 17, 2017, 06:13:35 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 17, 2017, 06:13:35 PM
No Jon, havent got time yet to start it. I had last sunday some spare time. me and kids went to icetrack wherefrom japi posted some photos to fb. Was awesome day to drive with the gang. Had the opportunity to talk with Minna Sillankorva, woman who drove the group-B FB back in tbe 80s. Her daughter, Suvi was driving first time their e36 with rally spikewheels. She is talented driver, i have to say. I sat a few laps at codrivers seat. Only a couple of time she pumped throttle unnessesarly on cornering.
No rotarys this time at the track. Shit.
I think this winther goes by and my car just stays on stands.
No rotarys this time at the track. Shit.
I think this winther goes by and my car just stays on stands.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 18, 2017, 05:55:32 PM
Post by: re japi on January 18, 2017, 05:55:32 PM
Yes, we had epic weekend at frozen lake. Saturday evening my friend sorted Opels electric problems. So sunday I was able to race Opel after a long time. Had lots of fun! Also bro, my co-worker Jasmine and Janne the rallycrossdriver beated the shit out off that car
Little phone vid from Jasmine co-driving with me
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/587faa07b67c2/received_10211031612961417.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/587faa07b67c2/received_10211031612961417.mp4)
Today I went to drive few laps just for fun. Trying to figure out some driving lines and checking curve speeds with gps and RaceChrono App
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Took some in-car vid too. There was some loose snow on track so didnt have best traction. Made a new camera mount so it wont flip upsidedown so much. Peace of crap camera! Funny that in this video it seems that Im going really slow even though I was trying to push quite hard, maybe 90% speed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=9bTdwjdnFqU
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Little phone vid from Jasmine co-driving with me
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/587faa07b67c2/received_10211031612961417.mp4 (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/587faa07b67c2/received_10211031612961417.mp4)
Today I went to drive few laps just for fun. Trying to figure out some driving lines and checking curve speeds with gps and RaceChrono App
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/9e263059e23f5d4e98da323f5c992f93.jpg)
Took some in-car vid too. There was some loose snow on track so didnt have best traction. Made a new camera mount so it wont flip upsidedown so much. Peace of crap camera! Funny that in this video it seems that Im going really slow even though I was trying to push quite hard, maybe 90% speed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=9bTdwjdnFqU
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 20, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Post by: boosted on January 20, 2017, 07:34:11 PM
Congratulations i believe are in mate...Have a good day. Youll have todo as your told from know on ha ha !
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 21, 2017, 10:51:40 AM
Post by: re japi on January 21, 2017, 10:51:40 AM
Thanks mate! Well, I'm fuc**d anyways...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2017, 01:35:42 PM
Post by: boosted on January 21, 2017, 01:35:42 PM
Lol...i got wagging finger today...hoovering or garage...no brainer really....
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 21, 2017, 03:36:15 PM
Post by: re japi on January 21, 2017, 03:36:15 PM
Lol
Well, we have been together 13 years now I think. And about 10 engaged... But marriage in our case was basically law thing for us, our laws dont protect spouses in unfortunate cases...
Im spending my honeymoon at work. :) Cant even go ice racing, and its beautifull weather now. Crap...
So Im quessing honeymoon would be at July if we can come to Holland... :/
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Well, we have been together 13 years now I think. And about 10 engaged... But marriage in our case was basically law thing for us, our laws dont protect spouses in unfortunate cases...
Im spending my honeymoon at work. :) Cant even go ice racing, and its beautifull weather now. Crap...
So Im quessing honeymoon would be at July if we can come to Holland... :/
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on January 21, 2017, 05:29:45 PM
Post by: jynkkis on January 21, 2017, 05:29:45 PM
Today I had some time and went to garage to fire up mankeli. Well it didnt to well. She Just shoots solenoid and wont spin the starter. Im quessing she wont have enough juice from my battery charchers thin capels. Cars own battery Is dead, it doesnt accept amper... I need a new one.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on January 28, 2017, 06:06:29 AM
Post by: re japi on January 28, 2017, 06:06:29 AM
Ok, this is how to build suspension! Our friend Seppo is a Volvo guru, and from these pictures you can see that he can do other stuff too ;)
http://www.skautoengineering.fi/albumi/omakilpa-autoprojekti/volvo544rallycross/
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Our friend Seppo is a Volvo guru, and from these pictures you can see that he can do other stuff too ;)http://www.skautoengineering.fi/albumi/omakilpa-autoprojekti/volvo544rallycross/
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
When we got married, I got idea to go to our castle and Mona took some photos :)Its not professional photo but I kind of like it...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/dca447d5833c2a6ee88bbf598a36ccd6.jpg)
Back to cars ;)
After last session bro and dad said that engine mount is broken. We brought car back home, well to my fatherinlaws house, and started to do some quick fix. Mount and engine was hold by kind of lower strutbar, without that damages would have been bigger. Fixed exhaust, cause it was torn apart too. Repaired the heater and vipers. Fixed air intakes/maf mountings. Swapped tyres. And some little things...
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Last saturday, I drove car back to lake, and had some fun. For about 6hours,I give it some beans. :) it did took a beating, but it worked just fine, so I was happy (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/d937064467c0164919356f225b8d2f37.jpg)
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Back to cars ;)
After last session bro and dad said that engine mount is broken. We brought car back home, well to my fatherinlaws house, and started to do some quick fix. Mount and engine was hold by kind of lower strutbar, without that damages would have been bigger. Fixed exhaust, cause it was torn apart too. Repaired the heater and vipers. Fixed air intakes/maf mountings. Swapped tyres. And some little things...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/0f210cd7358922969c14047d055c5b96.jpg)
Last saturday, I drove car back to lake, and had some fun. For about 6hours,I give it some beans. :) it did took a beating, but it worked just fine, so I was happy (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/d937064467c0164919356f225b8d2f37.jpg)
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2017, 03:40:42 PM
Post by: re japi on February 07, 2017, 03:40:42 PM
Oh, and last Friday we had quests from Ireland in our lake track. :)
Minna, who bro mentioned earlier asked me Thursday if they can come and drive with them. I said yes, and after work I did go straight to lake and started to fix and plow the track. Minna has "driver academy" and they wanted to show what is having fun in Finland at winter :)
I think that other Irishman pooped his pants when sitting with Minna's go-driver. Minna is one of the best female drivers in the world, you know. :) Anyways, they really had fun and its the main thing...
And I loved their accent ;)
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Minna, who bro mentioned earlier asked me Thursday if they can come and drive with them. I said yes, and after work I did go straight to lake and started to fix and plow the track. Minna has "driver academy" and they wanted to show what is having fun in Finland at winter :)
I think that other Irishman pooped his pants when sitting with Minna's go-driver. Minna is one of the best female drivers in the world, you know. :) Anyways, they really had fun and its the main thing...
And I loved their accent ;)
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on February 10, 2017, 02:22:01 PM
Post by: jynkkis on February 10, 2017, 02:22:01 PM
When we have guests from the main island? ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2017, 06:04:09 AM
Post by: re japi on February 17, 2017, 06:04:09 AM
More ice racing :P
https://youtu.be/-rdrH2MTu_M
https://youtu.be/-rdrH2MTu_M
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 08:12:24 AM
Post by: re japi on February 28, 2017, 08:12:24 AM
Well, 3 days of ice racing...
Saturday we raced with friends. Also we had French visitors. They wouldn't understand how we can race on lake :D but they had fun, really enjoyed... Sunday was local village winter event so we had lots of co-drivers. Four cars had volunteers to ride as co-driver. Childs and adults had fun, they saw how fun ice racing is... Yesterday I went to teach two of my friends kids how to drive and race. They are 10 and 12 years old... :)
Well, my car performed well, took massive beating in three days. Nothing broke, I think. :) My back and arms are a bit sore. But I'm very happy :D
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Saturday we raced with friends. Also we had French visitors. They wouldn't understand how we can race on lake :D but they had fun, really enjoyed... Sunday was local village winter event so we had lots of co-drivers. Four cars had volunteers to ride as co-driver. Childs and adults had fun, they saw how fun ice racing is... Yesterday I went to teach two of my friends kids how to drive and race. They are 10 and 12 years old... :)
Well, my car performed well, took massive beating in three days. Nothing broke, I think. :) My back and arms are a bit sore. But I'm very happy :D
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2017, 08:09:08 PM
That looks and sounds like really good fun :)
At least you get some pleasure/benefits from your extreme cold weather ;)
At least you get some pleasure/benefits from your extreme cold weather ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2017, 08:17:38 PM
Post by: boosted on February 28, 2017, 08:17:38 PM
Playing with cars on ice as a nation pastime probably has a large contribution to talent pool of Finnish rally drivers....best weve got in ice related sports is Eddie the Eagle! Hes our hero. Good film !
How do you know the ice is thick enough?
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2017, 11:52:32 PM
Post by: Casey on February 28, 2017, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: boosted on February 28, 2017, 08:17:38 PMHow do you know the ice is thick enough?
When your car falls through you know it isn't thick enough ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2017, 06:05:46 AM
Post by: re japi on March 01, 2017, 06:05:46 AM
Quote from: Casey on February 28, 2017, 11:52:32 PMExactly! :DQuote from: boosted on February 28, 2017, 08:17:38 PMHow do you know the ice is thick enough?When your car falls through you know it isn't thick enough ;)
Well, about 15cm so called "steel ice" is enough for a car. About 30cm more than enough... at the moment that lake has about 50-60cm of ice. We simply drill some holes to see if ice is good and strong enough...
Quote from: boosted on February 28, 2017, 08:17:38 PMThat is true. Kids learn to drive very early. And they can go fast in safe environment... Eddie is a legend! :)
Playing with cars on ice as a nation pastime probably has a large contribution to talent pool of Finnish rally drivers....best weve got in ice related sports is Eddie the Eagle! Hes our hero. Good film !
Quote from: Casey on February 28, 2017, 08:09:08 PMYou really should come someday. It really is fun :) Other than ice racing, I really hate winter :D
That looks and sounds like really good fun :)
At least you get some pleasure/benefits from your extreme cold weather ;)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2017, 09:55:43 AM
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2017, 09:55:43 AM
Well, after long and agognizing wait, yesterday we finally tryed to start the red beast... Oil is moving nicely, good fuel pressure, everything ok...and anticlimax. She wont start... :/ Getting spark and fuel. So battery might be too weak... Crap... :(
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2017, 10:28:28 AM
Post by: Casey on June 24, 2017, 10:28:28 AM
Hoping a freshly charged battery is all that's needed. Awaiting video of the engine running :happy1:
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Post by: re japi on June 24, 2017, 05:19:20 PM
Post by: re japi on June 24, 2017, 05:19:20 PM
We are sure that this battery is gone. So he have to get frech new one... We think that first smokes from that engine were really close. But not now... :/
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on June 24, 2017, 10:51:38 PM
Post by: clive on June 24, 2017, 10:51:38 PM
Even with the new battery, give it a tow to start because if its been turning slow and not starting it will be flooded
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
Post by: re japi on June 27, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
I guess its flooded. Bro tryed to start it yesterday too... Crap... :(
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 01, 2017, 03:53:44 PM
Post by: jynkkis on July 01, 2017, 03:53:44 PM
Red beast Is alive!!! And loud!!! I forgot to tight exhaust nuts.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 01, 2017, 04:40:36 PM
Post by: boosted on July 01, 2017, 04:40:36 PM
Woohoo! Well done....wanna vid or it did happen lol....you can drive it to Rotary Stock and hook up with Bro !!! Remember no excessive revs and watch her heat cycle a few times....
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 01, 2017, 04:42:28 PM
Post by: re japi on July 01, 2017, 04:42:28 PM
Well, I had amazing day! And it got better when bro phoned me and said that beast is alive!!!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 02, 2017, 09:53:41 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 02, 2017, 09:53:41 AM
I want too hear PP Brap brap!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on July 13, 2017, 06:18:52 PM
Post by: jynkkis on July 13, 2017, 06:18:52 PM
Last sunday i asked japi to come by, but he was watching f1s and having pizza ( aka massive hangover) thats why there are no vids yet. Sorry mates.
I think she fires a bit late and engine gets too hot. What would be the correct timing just to get her on the move?
We'll tune her on a dyno later, after running in the engine.
carbs leaks after turning off, even after i opened needle valve a couple times. I have to stop a petrolpumb earlyer than the engine. It helps and maybe the valve starts to function better after a while.
2 nd rotor gives fog through garb barrel after turning off. Is it just cos it gets so hot or could there be some extra lubrication left to burn.
She gets revs nice and i am impatient to give her red line reving. After 60ml running in?
Cant wait to go icetrack.
I think she fires a bit late and engine gets too hot. What would be the correct timing just to get her on the move?
We'll tune her on a dyno later, after running in the engine.
carbs leaks after turning off, even after i opened needle valve a couple times. I have to stop a petrolpumb earlyer than the engine. It helps and maybe the valve starts to function better after a while.
2 nd rotor gives fog through garb barrel after turning off. Is it just cos it gets so hot or could there be some extra lubrication left to burn.
She gets revs nice and i am impatient to give her red line reving. After 60ml running in?
Cant wait to go icetrack.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 11:53:48 AM
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 11:53:48 AM
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 12:09:41 PM
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 12:09:41 PM
Rallycross Mazda RX-7 13BPPN/A (2): http://youtu.be/ETLdSlbid8s
Rallycross Mazda RX-7 13BPPN/A: http://youtu.be/UmZhTkOJwLw
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Rallycross Mazda RX-7 13BPPN/A: http://youtu.be/UmZhTkOJwLw
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 12:24:10 PM
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 12:24:10 PM
Rallycross Mazda RX-7 13BPPN/A (3): http://youtu.be/iI9JxEvpxQk
Rallycross Mazda RX-7 13BPPN/A (4): http://youtu.be/z3rnDzkOeE8
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Rallycross Mazda RX-7 13BPPN/A (4): http://youtu.be/z3rnDzkOeE8
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2017, 04:12:27 PM
Post by: boosted on July 16, 2017, 04:12:27 PM
wohoo, lovely Brap! :sign0098: :13: :great: :P 8).
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Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 04:35:46 PM
Post by: re japi on July 16, 2017, 04:35:46 PM
It really sounds epic!!! I recon its because it has long exhaust system. But I think it needs to be redone, its frickin loud! Only revved it up to maybe 2500rpm, I wonder what noise it will make at 10k... 
But what really confuses us is that idle is really nice, smooth and in quite low revs. Maybe only 1000-1100rpm...
Makes us wonder how "mild" ports and port timing Carl did..? I quess he does know what he is doing, so no worrys there.
Afterall, bro asked him to do max rev range and torque, not max power...
But you cant believe our filings now! One big step forward was agognizing 5 year wait... To this point it has been really epic journey, and its only just has begun basically! So that you for your support!!!
Braplife and rotarded for life!!!
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I recon its because it has long exhaust system. But I think it needs to be redone, its frickin loud! Only revved it up to maybe 2500rpm, I wonder what noise it will make at 10k... But what really confuses us is that idle is really nice, smooth and in quite low revs. Maybe only 1000-1100rpm...
Makes us wonder how "mild" ports and port timing Carl did..? I quess he does know what he is doing, so no worrys there.
Afterall, bro asked him to do max rev range and torque, not max power...But you cant believe our filings now! One big step forward was agognizing 5 year wait... To this point it has been really epic journey, and its only just has begun basically! So that you for your support!!!
Braplife and rotarded for life!!!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 17, 2017, 11:43:52 AM
Post by: re japi on July 17, 2017, 11:43:52 AM
Oh.. For example Clive, Jim, Kev and Aston sae my filings at holland when I heard that IT has started. Did I look happy? 
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2017, 11:53:55 AM
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2017, 11:53:55 AM
Whens it shake down on a track ?
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2017, 12:51:17 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2017, 12:51:17 PM
Port timing on a PP... well the port is never actually ever closed is it the apex seal is what would close but they're only 2mm wide. So I would say you have 359.8 degrees of inlet timing
From what I can remember carl does 2 different port shapes on a PP, one is a squared of corners port, which gives max power max inlet etc and a D shape port which is more for a less of an extreme engine, more of an endurance engine so I'm guessing yours is the D shape port.
What size were the PP inlets welded too the housings? I'm prett certain Carla largest ones are either 62 or 64 mm diameter?
Are you using IDA carbs? If so what size are they?
Can't say what timing you need to put into it if the engine is running hot, I would suggest a call to Carl and he will point you in the right direction
What length have you done the primary exhaust headers before merging them into one? Varying lengths have a great effect, I learnt all this stuff years ago as my Rx4 was meant to be PP bit I've forgotten it all now! I had even contacted racing beat for advice and got a couple of emails from Jim Merderer himself!
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the apex seal is what would close but they're only 2mm wide. So I would say you have 359.8 degrees of inlet timingFrom what I can remember carl does 2 different port shapes on a PP, one is a squared of corners port, which gives max power max inlet etc and a D shape port which is more for a less of an extreme engine, more of an endurance engine so I'm guessing yours is the D shape port.
What size were the PP inlets welded too the housings? I'm prett certain Carla largest ones are either 62 or 64 mm diameter?
Are you using IDA carbs? If so what size are they?
Can't say what timing you need to put into it if the engine is running hot, I would suggest a call to Carl and he will point you in the right direction
What length have you done the primary exhaust headers before merging them into one? Varying lengths have a great effect, I learnt all this stuff years ago as my Rx4 was meant to be PP bit I've forgotten it all now! I had even contacted racing beat for advice and got a couple of emails from Jim Merderer himself!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2017, 06:37:04 PM
Post by: Casey on July 23, 2017, 06:37:04 PM
Looks great and sounds amaaaaazing :13:
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Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 26, 2017, 03:56:20 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 26, 2017, 03:56:20 PM
Did carl explain about the intake trumpet length to help move the power into a range where best suits you? Long trumpets should give better longer mid range torque, shirt ones make it peaky and make power up in the higher revs?
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 06, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on August 06, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
Moi!
Just thought I'd pop in and say hi
I live part time between UK & Finland (Hence the name) and live about 2hr or so north of you in Visuvesi (Near Ruovesi)
My Finnish is shockingly bad even tho I lived and worked there for more than 5 years!
Just thought I'd pop in and say hi
I live part time between UK & Finland (Hence the name) and live about 2hr or so north of you in Visuvesi (Near Ruovesi)
My Finnish is shockingly bad even tho I lived and worked there for more than 5 years!
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Post by: re japi on August 08, 2017, 07:21:11 AM
Post by: re japi on August 08, 2017, 07:21:11 AM
Quote from: Essex2Visuvesi on August 06, 2017, 10:05:23 PMMoi! :)
Moi!
Just thought I'd pop in and say hi
I live part time between UK & Finland (Hence the name) and live about 2hr or so north of you in Visuvesi (Near Ruovesi)
My Finnish is shockingly bad even tho I lived and worked there for more than 5 years!
Well, rotarys here are not as common as in UK. But we have little club which has about 30 active members and maybe 500 followers. Please check out Rotary Garage at Facebook. There we also have some other nationality members so feel free to join us... :)
Dont worry about your finnish, I cant speak it either. And some of these people here knows that my english is shit too ;)
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Post by: re japi on August 08, 2017, 07:36:45 AM
Post by: re japi on August 08, 2017, 07:36:45 AM
Grant, seems like my brother hasnt answered you, even that I told him to long time ago :D
Yes, I recon its D shaped, not sure tho. I think inlet is about 56mm. Carb is 48. Quite "neutral" setup maybe, but bro wanted it that way.
Yes he did explain that trumpet stuff. Dont remember how long those are. Seems like quite normal lenght to me :D
When bro build that exhaust, we thought that long system would bring better torque. I think primarys are about 2 meters, and measurements are from Carl... But now we are not so sure about which is better. Some say that there is now big difference, and long system is better in all areas. I have tryed to learn and asked lots of questions in different places. But that long system is heavy, no doubt about that...
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Yes, I recon its D shaped, not sure tho. I think inlet is about 56mm. Carb is 48. Quite "neutral" setup maybe, but bro wanted it that way.
Yes he did explain that trumpet stuff. Dont remember how long those are. Seems like quite normal lenght to me :D
When bro build that exhaust, we thought that long system would bring better torque. I think primarys are about 2 meters, and measurements are from Carl... But now we are not so sure about which is better. Some say that there is now big difference, and long system is better in all areas. I have tryed to learn and asked lots of questions in different places. But that long system is heavy, no doubt about that...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2017, 08:40:47 AM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2017, 08:40:47 AM
Bugger... Well, now "power" is falling from the sky... But I did have fun driving my AWD Toyota to work
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on October 26, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Post by: boosted on October 26, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Blimey, I dont like snow atall.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
Post by: re japi on October 26, 2017, 05:11:06 PM
Why that pic is up side down????
Yes, I dont either. I hate it. Only good snow is on ice, at frozen lake, marking the "race track"
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Yes, I dont either. I hate it. Only good snow is on ice, at frozen lake, marking the "race track"
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 26, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 26, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Central Finland this morning
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on October 26, 2017, 10:59:26 PM
Post by: Casey on October 26, 2017, 10:59:26 PM
Hope that snow isn't coming our way anytime soon. Unseasonally mild here at the moment :great:
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Post by: re japi on October 27, 2017, 05:46:56 AM
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2017, 05:46:56 AM
We had very windy, cold and rainy year. Im afraid that winter will be really snowy...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 27, 2017, 01:19:40 PM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 27, 2017, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: re japi on October 27, 2017, 05:46:56 AM
We had very windy, cold and rainy year. Im afraid that winter will be really snowy...
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Last few winters have been very mild compared to some of the winters I experienced..... -42c anyone?
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Post by: boosted on October 27, 2017, 03:17:54 PM
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2017, 03:17:54 PM
-42 ill curl up and die...once baby boom novelty worn off.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2017, 03:32:53 PM
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2017, 03:34:14 PM
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2017, 03:34:14 PM
Nice n Hot soon in OZ for me...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2017, 03:34:29 PM
Post by: re japi on October 27, 2017, 03:34:29 PM
True, very mild. Gladly we did get desent ice on the lakes that we could ice race
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2017, 03:35:41 PM
Post by: boosted on October 27, 2017, 03:35:41 PM
Id been worried about it cracking and falling in...who goes first?
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 28, 2017, 04:03:51 AM
Post by: re japi on October 28, 2017, 04:03:51 AM
;D
Naah, you can see and feel the strenght of the ice. Best is to drill holes in to it so you can see that it really is frozen solid and that it is so called "iron ice"... Actually the hardest part is to figure out that how much weight that ice will hold. Cause you have to blow snow from the ice that it can get stronger and freeze better, its like maintaining your track to keep it in good condition....
We have little ATV, Mitsubishi pick-up and two tractors with blows. We use ATV when lake starts to freeze up and ice ice thin. After that, Mitsi. Last winter we didnt use tractors cause there werent not much snow
As I said in Holland to MRC crew, you all really should come ice racing! Its more than fun :P
Naah, you can see and feel the strenght of the ice. Best is to drill holes in to it so you can see that it really is frozen solid and that it is so called "iron ice"... Actually the hardest part is to figure out that how much weight that ice will hold. Cause you have to blow snow from the ice that it can get stronger and freeze better, its like maintaining your track to keep it in good condition....
We have little ATV, Mitsubishi pick-up and two tractors with blows. We use ATV when lake starts to freeze up and ice ice thin. After that, Mitsi. Last winter we didnt use tractors cause there werent not much snow
As I said in Holland to MRC crew, you all really should come ice racing! Its more than fun :P
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2017, 05:02:57 PM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2017, 05:02:57 PM
I don’t think I would get tired of snow, it’s ace, got to keep moving too keep warm
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 07:47:10 PM
Post by: boosted on October 28, 2017, 07:47:10 PM
Fancy having a go on snow mobile..
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 29, 2017, 07:03:04 AM
Post by: re japi on October 29, 2017, 07:03:04 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on October 28, 2017, 05:02:57 PM
I don’t think I would get tired of snow, it’s ace, got to keep moving too keep warm
Really? Want a bet on that one? ;D
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 29, 2017, 07:04:22 AM
Post by: re japi on October 29, 2017, 07:04:22 AM
Quote from: boosted on October 28, 2017, 07:47:10 PM
Fancy having a go on snow mobile..
Yeah, thats really fun. With a good, light weight, with decent power snow mobile, its really fun :great:
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 29, 2017, 07:49:47 AM
Post by: re japi on October 29, 2017, 07:49:47 AM
So, just came to work. In route, did some "drifting" with AWD . At one point hitted a limiter abit. Immidiately check engine light came on... Put Obd reader on, and it says that its lambda sensor failure... Bugger...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 08:08:30 AM
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on October 29, 2017, 08:08:30 AM
I’d love too have a go on a 750 2 stroke snow mobile. Talk about powwaaaaahhh!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 08:12:32 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 08:12:32 AM
Prob break my neck lol
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 29, 2017, 09:38:44 AM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 29, 2017, 09:38:44 AM
This is mine.... 800cc, not really a racer but a very nice all rounder
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 29, 2017, 09:39:57 AM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 29, 2017, 09:39:57 AM
And another pic
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Post by: boosted on October 29, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Awesome...! Defo a big boys toy!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2017, 03:06:52 PM
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2017, 03:06:52 PM
Yep, thats a good snowmobile
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2017, 03:08:12 PM
Post by: re japi on October 30, 2017, 03:08:12 PM
Dont remember what Polaris my cousin has but that one makes you poop your pants, its a missile 
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 30, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on October 30, 2017, 06:00:07 PM
My wife had a 2T Arctic Cat the model name escapes me but that was an absolute animal, faster and lighter than my 800cc but the range was pretty poor (sound familiar?)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on October 31, 2017, 05:38:52 AM
Post by: re japi on October 31, 2017, 05:38:52 AM
Hey Grant, do you still have some rotary stuff for sale? I remembered that you had/have AEM coils? One dude here was looking for those things...
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 13, 2017, 04:38:53 PM
Post by: re japi on December 13, 2017, 04:38:53 PM
Though that I should keep this topic alive. Unfortunately, there is nothing to say. No progress at all... 
I started to plan 2018 trip. And yes, I think it going to be to UK... I really wanted to attend Goodwood FOS and/or 7.7.2018 if that is going to happen. Howerer, I think its impossible for me to get my vacation at July...
Then I started to think that last year I missed Rallycross 50years event at Lydden Hill, cause we desided to come to Netherlands. So abit Googleing and contacted Retro Rallycross series croup at Facebook. They answered me almost immidiately that there is two Retro Cross events at Lydden this year. 2nd April and 27th August...
So that really suits my plan to go around South-East England and see some castles and stuff. Lydden Hill has always been my need to go place, same Brands Hatch is too. Only thing I need anymore is that there would be rotary event too
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I started to plan 2018 trip. And yes, I think it going to be to UK...
I really wanted to attend Goodwood FOS and/or 7.7.2018 if that is going to happen. Howerer, I think its impossible for me to get my vacation at July... Then I started to think that last year I missed Rallycross 50years event at Lydden Hill, cause we desided to come to Netherlands. So abit Googleing and contacted Retro Rallycross series croup at Facebook. They answered me almost immidiately that there is two Retro Cross events at Lydden this year. 2nd April and 27th August...
So that really suits my plan to go around South-East England and see some castles and stuff. Lydden Hill has always been my need to go place, same Brands Hatch is too. Only thing I need anymore is that there would be rotary event too
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2017, 04:42:38 PM
Post by: boosted on December 13, 2017, 04:42:38 PM
Google Tintern Abbey...thatll be another 1 on your list for sure.
What are the plans for the fb? 2019 seasons or when its ready? Cant be much more todo?
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on December 13, 2017, 05:19:25 PM
Post by: Casey on December 13, 2017, 05:19:25 PM
Jarno, acouple of dates to ponder over:
Tunerfest Brands Hatch, Sunday 24 June? The RX-8 OC will have a stand and a large presence, plus club exclusive track sessions too. Clive took his race car out on track there last year. The day usually hosts a "Time Attack" round too, in which PeteH plans to compete in his Eurospec RX-8, with which he was very successful in 2017.
Here's a link to the RX-8 OC topic to give you some idea of the event in 2017. I've not been able to get to the event since the club started going 2 years ago, but it's in my diary for 2018 :)
https://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=72803
Another event to think about is this one on 25/26 August. It's a static event held at Dunsfold, the "Top Gear" track. You might be able to tie this in with Lydden? :13:
https://www.wingsandwheels.net/
It's a static event, but the RX-8 OC will have a stand for there for both days (camping options have been mentioned). I wen there about 3 years ago and it's a HUGE show with loads of interesting stuff for all the family.
Not sure if I'll get to the latter event though, as it's Gwyn's birthday on 25th Aug, but maybe try to arrange a long weekend in the area and combine it..... ;)
Both events are in the South East with loads of castles to visit. Dover Castle is well worth a visit as is Bodiam Castle (pic below). Gwyn and I went to both in 2016, basing ourselves in Rye on the coast for a week, a beautiful town with old cobbled streets (also pictured).
Tunerfest Brands Hatch, Sunday 24 June? The RX-8 OC will have a stand and a large presence, plus club exclusive track sessions too. Clive took his race car out on track there last year. The day usually hosts a "Time Attack" round too, in which PeteH plans to compete in his Eurospec RX-8, with which he was very successful in 2017.
Here's a link to the RX-8 OC topic to give you some idea of the event in 2017. I've not been able to get to the event since the club started going 2 years ago, but it's in my diary for 2018 :)
https://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=72803
Another event to think about is this one on 25/26 August. It's a static event held at Dunsfold, the "Top Gear" track. You might be able to tie this in with Lydden? :13:
https://www.wingsandwheels.net/
It's a static event, but the RX-8 OC will have a stand for there for both days (camping options have been mentioned). I wen there about 3 years ago and it's a HUGE show with loads of interesting stuff for all the family.
Not sure if I'll get to the latter event though, as it's Gwyn's birthday on 25th Aug, but maybe try to arrange a long weekend in the area and combine it..... ;)
Both events are in the South East with loads of castles to visit. Dover Castle is well worth a visit as is Bodiam Castle (pic below). Gwyn and I went to both in 2016, basing ourselves in Rye on the coast for a week, a beautiful town with old cobbled streets (also pictured).
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 13, 2017, 07:50:13 PM
Post by: re japi on December 13, 2017, 07:50:13 PM
Thanks for tips Sir. :)
Yes, I have been researching and studying that area for a few years now. With those that you linked, also Hastings, Rochester, Canterbury just to mention few. There really is lots of things to see and to visit!
At this point I'm leaning towards august, but not sure yet.
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Yes, I have been researching and studying that area for a few years now. With those that you linked, also Hastings, Rochester, Canterbury just to mention few. There really is lots of things to see and to visit!
At this point I'm leaning towards august, but not sure yet.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 13, 2017, 08:07:45 PM
Post by: re japi on December 13, 2017, 08:07:45 PM
Just checked that Wingsandwheels thing. Yes, I want to go there!
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on December 14, 2017, 08:29:55 AM
Post by: clive on December 14, 2017, 08:29:55 AM
Check out Heaver Castle / Anne Boleyn's house, Queen of Henry the eighth till see lost her head.
The long room at the back is weird as it is the same as when she lived there and at the end of the room is a painting from the period.
When you look back down the room its spooky to see that except for the dog, you are seeing exactly what is in the painting.
Wings and Wheels, we did this as a club a couple of times, perhaps we will go this year, good day out :)
The long room at the back is weird as it is the same as when she lived there and at the end of the room is a painting from the period.
When you look back down the room its spooky to see that except for the dog, you are seeing exactly what is in the painting.
Wings and Wheels, we did this as a club a couple of times, perhaps we will go this year, good day out :)
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 14, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
Post by: re japi on December 14, 2017, 09:44:29 AM
Thanks Sir. That castle is on my list allready That wings and wheels event really seems amazing...
So, after 3 hours, this is the list so far. I fear that week is not enough... Damn, i really need to move to UK...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on December 17, 2017, 10:10:38 AM
Post by: re japi on December 17, 2017, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: boosted on December 13, 2017, 04:42:38 PMDamn, didnt see this reply. Sorry
Google Tintern Abbey...thatll be another 1 on your list for sure.
What are the plans for the fb? 2019 seasons or when its ready? Cant be much more todo?
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Thanks mate Ill check it...Plan is to get her finished and dynod. Not much to do, bro just dont have time. But basically car needs just few little things... Plan is to maybe race in few events 2018. Before that, lots of testing on frozen lake and in spring at our home track...
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: jynkkis on March 09, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
Post by: jynkkis on March 09, 2018, 08:56:14 AM
Can anyone tell me what type the Helix IS on powersteering hoses nob (FD -96) not The banjo.
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on June 29, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
Post by: re japi on June 29, 2018, 05:05:47 PM
Well, bro seems to be very active updating this topic. So here is pic taken yesterday. she has new boots
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: clive on June 30, 2018, 10:47:09 AM
Post by: clive on June 30, 2018, 10:47:09 AM
So Love those wheel arches :great:
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: exiled-viking on July 01, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
Post by: exiled-viking on July 01, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
loving this build thread as well car looks good...... don't wreck it on those track days lol
Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: re japi on July 02, 2018, 04:53:37 AM
Post by: re japi on July 02, 2018, 04:53:37 AM
Quote from: exiled-viking on July 01, 2018, 06:50:01 PMThank you Sir. I bet bro appriciates your kind words.
loving this build thread as well car looks good...... don't wreck it on those track days lol
Well, its a rallycross car. It is supposed to get hitted.
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Title: Re: Finnish race car project
Post by: Casey on July 02, 2018, 11:25:34 AM
Post by: Casey on July 02, 2018, 11:25:34 AM
Quote from: clive on June 30, 2018, 10:47:09 AM
So Love those wheel arches :great:
Seconded :13: