I am thinking of wrapping my centre console, radio surround, dial surround & steering column surround with boost gauge in Di-Noc carbon fibre vinyl
Has anyone else done or tried this? any pictures of the end result?
Cheers
I\'ve done a couple of wing mirrors on a 4x4 and although the material is quite forgiving if you have any tight compound curves it can be difficult.
There are lots of you-tube links like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0-KkEW8hT4
Make sure you but the good stuff.
John
yea, don\'t get the stuff off ebay and expect it to do the same job! If it works out at less than £40 per meter, then it\'s the crap quality stuff!!
Im looking getting it from a company in stoke on trent that specialise in carbon fibre materials & products, its just over £35 for a 1200mm X 600mm sheet
Quote from: Eoiny555;757770Im looking getting it from a company in stoke on trent that specialise in carbon fibre materials & products, its just over £35 for a 1200mm X 600mm sheet
If its CarbonMods then I\'ve visited their premises and they seem a pretty good bunch. :Thumbs-up
i did my old skyline dash console with 3m good stuff, i also bought the adhesive which is like £20 for such a small pot.
it went on lovely and i was well happy with the finish, as soon as the hot weather came tho, it all lifted and left bubbles, peeled from the edges around the vents and generally looked cheap. i wouldnt even consider doing the dash in the rx now.
Quote from: Simaroon;757798i did my old skyline dash console with 3m good stuff, i also bought the adhesive which is like £20 for such a small pot.
it went on lovely and i was well happy with the finish, as soon as the hot weather came tho, it all lifted and left bubbles, peeled from the edges around the vents and generally looked cheap. i wouldnt even consider doing the dash in the rx now.
I was concerned about heat making a balls of it but the car is garaged so it wouldnt be parked in direct sunlight or extreme heat for long periods so i was hoping to avoid this
Quote from: Simaroon;757798i did my old skyline dash console with 3m good stuff, i also bought the adhesive which is like £20 for such a small pot.
it went on lovely and i was well happy with the finish, as soon as the hot weather came tho, it all lifted and left bubbles, peeled from the edges around the vents and generally looked cheap. i wouldnt even consider doing the dash in the rx now.
I spent ages doing my dash overthe winter and have just had the same thing happen in the hot weather. Car i garaged most of the time but doesnt take long in the sun to ruin the job. Problem is you heat the stuff up to stretch around part ect and it stays as it cools. However, when it heats back up it shrinks back to the origional size
Speaking from some wrapping experience.
We would wrap around compound curves by heating the material to 54 deg, this would allow it follow the shape.
After letting it cool to room temp we would re-heat to 86 deg
The manufacturers say at 86 deg the material forgets its memory [wanting to go back to its original form] and subsequently stays in the new shape.
We use a digital thermometer with a laser point to get the temps right.
This method applies to quality self adhesive carbon wrap, I\'ve have never used anything you need a pot of glue for.
John
sorry it wasnt adhesive, that was bad wording from me. it was 3m 94 primer
basicaly that is a solvant cleaning fluid to remove any grime!
Quote from: Jono FD3;758458basicaly that is a solvant cleaning fluid to remove any grime!
no it is not, that is what the metholated spirits is used for, the 94 primer goes tacky when applied and acts as an extra adhesive. it supposedly stops it from peeling from the edges and lifting.
In answer to the original question please see below...
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/scottwillmore/My%20RX7/dash1.jpg)
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/scottwillmore/My%20RX7/dash.jpg)
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc370/scottwillmore/My%20RX7/dash2.jpg)
Quoteno it is not, that is what the metholated spirits is used for, the 94 primer goes tacky when applied and acts as an extra adhesive. it supposedly stops it from peeling from the edges and lifting.
I\'ve been working with all types of vinyl for over 25 years and never heard of applying an additional adhesive to self adhesive vinyl.
I\'m not saying this doesn\'t happen but it\'s news to me.
I get all my material from these, lots of info on their site or give them a call.
http://www.hexis-graphics.com/en/products/index
John
Quote from: Carbon RX;758516In answer to the original question please see below...
that looks a good finish, how long has it been done? have you got a close up pic of around the heater controls?
Quote from: johnf;758537I\'ve been working with all types of vinyl for over 25 years and never heard of applying an additional adhesive to self adhesive vinyl.
I\'m not saying this doesn\'t happen but it\'s news to me.
John
i maybe well off the mark then mate if your speaking from 20 odd years experience, my bad.
if you look at this link it shows the primer im on about being used
http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148864&highlight=noc+carbon
and hers the primer
http://www.vikingtapes.co.uk/Tapes/Surface_Preparation/3M_Primer_94.htm?gclid=CIGgxL7wvKgCFUEb4QodwHxFCg
Looked at the links, the 3m glue doesn\'t say it\'s designed for wrapping does it.
I\'ve found this link which is 3M carbon wrap and these guys are doing it as I would, straight off the backing paper and onto the surface.
http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/GraphicSolutions/VehicleWrapping/Homepage/CarbonFibreVinyl/
John
yep, your right it says to be used with tape, i just assumed tape/ sticky vinyl, same thing, and it couldnt make the adhesion anyworse.
Remember kids, never assume
Quote from: Simaroon;758541that looks a good finish, how long has it been done? have you got a close up pic of around the heater controls?
I prob done it about nerly one yr ago now, mainly parked in garage.
I do agree to the stressed parts of the material peeling up after time but mainly only around very stretched radius\'sonly on mine thou.
The bond from the material without mentioning or confusing the subject with extra bonding substances is very good otherwise. I wish i knew how to normalise the material after stretching it when i was doing mine, surely an oven could be used there?
Will try get some better pics mate...
Having used this type of carbon wrap on both metal and plastic surfaces there is no doubt it sticks much better to metal.
If I were going to wrap some internal plastic parts I think I would prime and paint them first in order to give the adhesive on the vinyl the best surface to adhere to.
John