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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 09:39:27 PM

Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Driving my RX7 last night (1996 FD) and changed gear then notice a drop in performance, by time I got home when i pulled up it was spluttering (as if it wasn\'t firing correctly) and vibrating.

Left it until i got home today from work and started it back up again and it started up but again was spluttering and vibrating then engine cut off after about 3 seconds or so? but now wont start up at all. when i turn the key it doesn\'t do much!

Any info will be appreciated, live in derby so not exactly around the corner to any specialists  :(

Thanks guys.
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 09:51:22 PM
How does the car actually sound, does it sound kinda like a tractor noise?

And does it settle when you get it up to 3000rpm?

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: FD3S Efini;756052How does the car actually sound, does it sound kinda like a tractor noise?

And does it settle when you get it up to 3000rpm?

Kris

Hi mate, when it was running, yeah it did kind of sound like a tractor, but as 3k on revs, it still wasn\'t ok and was sluggish to react when using the accelerator. luckily this happened not far from home!

thanks.
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 10:04:48 PM
Hmmm I\'m guessing and this is only a guess but it sounds like a chipped tip but I maybe completely wrong hopefully someone can correct me if I am wrong

A video of the car would be best so we could see the problem

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 10:08:49 PM
I hope not :( lol. so do you reckon its a lack of compression is why its not starting up then? if it doesn\'t turn out to be that thanks for possible fault any way :)
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 10:10:28 PM
That could possibly be the reason for not starting and sounding really rough, what was the idle speed roughly? Lower then usual?

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 10:17:29 PM
when it was running, yeah it was lower than usual, approx around 800 revs?
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 10:19:40 PM
One sec let me do a search and see if I can find a thread I remember from a while ago

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 10:23:47 PM
Just had a quick butchers on YouTube

Does it act or sound like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmqqMkk9E7E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 10:29:13 PM
sounded similar but mine was juddering more, bit like the feeling when a car is about to stall kind of but through different rev ranges???
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: shaunwil on April 14, 2011, 10:33:40 PM
Quick thing to check is the boost sensor pipe hasn\'t popped off so its running super rich (makes it see atmosphere all the time). Its a small sensor behind the throttle body with a small pipe between it and the plenum.

Hopefully it isn\'t anything serious, don\'t panic straight away and just check for all the simple stuff first.

Shaun
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 10:34:19 PM
I\'m not to sure then, from what you said it sounds like a chipped tip which is not the end of the world fortunately, but hopefully people smarter then me will be able to pin point what the problem could be

Have you checked inside the engine bay? Anything look suspicious?

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: neil_jdmr on April 14, 2011, 10:39:44 PM
map sensor hose popped off,
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 10:41:48 PM
cheers guys appreciate it :) yeah going to check the small things in the mean time, probs saturday when im off work. yeah had a quick look round and didnt see any holes or rotors stuck in my bonnet but will have another check around

si
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 10:42:29 PM
Oh crap forgot about the map sensor what a nob forgot they have similar symptoms

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: FD3S Efini;756082Oh crap forgot about the map sensor what a nob forgot they have similar symptoms

Kris

haha, we all have these moments! where abouts is that then? sorry people only had it for two weeks and trying to get to grips with the engine etc...

in a way ive learned alot all ready to be honest :) every day is a school day lol
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 14, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
If you open the bonnet you will see the plenum on the very top of the engine and it has the throttle body attached to it, just above the throttle body and to the right a little you will see a small black box which on it should say boost sensor it\'s pretty easy to spot luckily

That\'s what you need to look at, if I remember correctly it should have a rubber hose attached to the nipple (yeah I said it) on the base and should also have a plug attached

Hope this helps

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: the real podge on April 14, 2011, 10:59:19 PM
Yes its either the sensor(cheap fix) or a tip gone(not so cheap)

Crossing my fingers for you man, Ive had two engines with very similar symptoms, am rebuilding the most recent as we speak!!

Good Luck

James
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 14, 2011, 11:06:03 PM
Thanks bud, will have a ganders tomorrow after work, bit hard to see at the minute lol

nice summary podge :) crossing mine tightley as well! and so is my  wallet lol. wish i could whip an engine out like you lot, keep me out of  trouble! haha,

thanks all for your help, will keep ya all posted!

Si.
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 16, 2011, 04:55:26 PM
checked all the sensors and all seamed ok, spoke to rotecchniks and he said the same as you FDS3 Efini, chipped rotor and needs a rebuild :( oh well still a good couple of weeks i supose, now need to sort out away of getting it down to them... cheers for your help guys :)
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: FD3S Efini on April 16, 2011, 05:45:16 PM
Sorry for the news mate was hoping it would be an easy fix

Kris
Title: Car wont start!!! need help!
Post by: Si Fi on April 16, 2011, 06:57:41 PM
thanks mate, so was I lol. but will get the peace of mind of a 2 year warranty for it. just cant wait to get back the road again now the weather is getting better!

Si