Have you noticed that we rarely mention petrol consumption on our FB\'s? (unlike the RX8 forums, where it is every second post...)
Are we so rich we don\'t care? Or is it that we don\'t do enough miles?
Or is it because they are so good it is worth whatever it takes?
Or is it that we don\'t have working fuel guages?
John
All 4 reasons for me.
Quote from: David Nock;755831All 4 reasons for me.
Ditto.
ta stu..
I guess its mostly people using cars to commute/school run/etc that mostly care about fuel economy lots.
I might have to post a thread after my first month of £500+ fuel bills again like I had in the 13b mx5!! :P
lol, I run on LPG so the cost isn\'t as bad. I get 16-20mpg on gas !
Shaun
No need to look for fuel economy when owning a rotary :Nono!:rollin
I would own one even if the cost of fuel doubled.
i know mine did do 150 mils off a tank when it was running
Off topic slightly but it winds me up massively the amount that RX8 owners go on about their fuel consumption. Yes, you can make it do 300 miles to a tank but it\'s really boring and the car is much more fun when it\'s doing 9000 rpm and you\'re driving it properly. As for the fools who buy one then whinge about it, do they just live in a bubble? Rotaries are not that good on fuel and if you\'re that worried about it, go and buy a miserable diesel hatchback!
As for the FB, when I get to drive the RPM\'s one I am hoping it\'s going to be like the RX8, such fun I just don\'t give a damn!
Quote from: Rivalrx;755862No need to look for fuel economy when owning a rotary :Nono!:rollin
I would own one even if the cost of fuel doubled.
Damn straight.:evillaugh
If your mileage is good, you ain\'t following the redline a day rule.:Hammer
16 mpg and a big smile :Laugh
Quote from: shaunwil;755851lol, I run on LPG so the cost isn\'t as bad. I get 16-20mpg on gas !
Shaun
Overe the weeks I had noticed you run an LPG RX7 from your signature, and have been waiting to find the right moment to mention it.....
I have often though about LPG as a way of getting reasonable running cost on the sort of car I would actually like to do 150 miles a day in, but have never met anyone to knows anything about it.
Have you got a thread with any technical details on the conversion?
Presumably you can switch between LPG and Petrol at will? How does it affect the mpg? Where does the tank go?
John
There was a thread but technically it doesn\'t really contain alot.
Theres no swapping between LPG and petrol on a rotary. My setup hasn\'t had a petrol system and tank for past 3yrs ! Starts up from cold (down to about -4 deg C). Its an Ipmco 300A carb on a ford V8 Throttle body on a rx4 intake manifold !
The Tank is a 30lt capacity of usuable gas and is in the spare wheel well. I\'ve been looking at a PPI welded tank but there isn\'t a UK dealer. At least they have EU certification now !
I only get 80-120 miles out a single tank fill !
Shaun
I gave up on \'boring cars\' many years ago so my normal consumption for 20+ years would have been between 18 - 24mpg so returning to the fuel economy of the rx7 :rollinis nothing out of the ordinary to me. If you have to keep asking how much it costs to run then it\'s time to sell it.
Whereas I am very pleased and proud to have chosen to drive rx7\'s again so it costs \'what it costs\' and stuff the economists I say - just enjoy the power, the ride and thrill of these special sports cars!
Cliff
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Quote from: CHC;755903I gave up on \'boring cars\' many years ago so my normal consumption for 20+ years would have been between 18 - 24mpg so returning to the fuel economy of the rx7 :rollinis nothing out of the ordinary to me. If you have to keep asking how much it costs to run then it\'s time to sell it.
Whereas I am very pleased and proud to have chosen to drive rx7\'s again so it costs \'what it costs\' and stuff the economists I say - just enjoy the power, the ride and thrill of these special sports cars!
Cliff
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We have run Miss January as a second (or third or fourth..) car for 25 years now, but doing three hours a day in a diesel is beginning to get to me. The trouble is that I am not rich enough to do 35,000 a year at 20 to the gallon. This is not confined to RX7\'s - everything else I want to drive seems to do 20 to the gallon as well.....
John
Quote from: johnnyboy;755907We have run Miss January as a second (or third or fourth..) car for 25 years now, but doing three hours a day in a diesel is beginning to get to me. The trouble is that I am not rich enough to do 35,000 a year at 20 to the gallon. This is not confined to RX7\'s - everything else I want to drive seems to do 20 to the gallon as well.....
John
Ditto John - I\'m the same, believe me. Gone are the days when I had a company car doing loadsamiles and in the latter 5 years my mileage has dropped considerably to something like 10-12K and yes lets be honest the ever increasing cost of fuel has made me think twice about some journeys but not enough to make me change over to a bog standard car which does 40 - 60mpg (although sometimes it would be nice). My point was if we buy a rx7 (or any rotary powered car come to that) we have to expect lowish economy - me, if JAZ & or Golide does 20+ I\'ll be jumping for joy.Cliff:wave
Quote from: CHC;755903I gave up on \'boring cars\' many years ago so my normal consumption for 20+ years would have been between 18 - 24mpg so returning to the fuel economy of the rx7 :rollinis nothing out of the ordinary to me. If you have to keep asking how much it costs to run then it\'s time to sell it.
Whereas I am very pleased and proud to have chosen to drive rx7\'s again so it costs \'what it costs\' and stuff the economists I say - just enjoy the power, the ride and thrill of these special sports cars!
Cliff
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Having just re-read this posting I\'d just like to clarify and explain my statement "stuff the economists". Here I am refering simply to economists and politicians and NOT anybody on this forum or whomever choses to own or drive rotary powered vehicles. We (that is owners/drivers of high powered engines and \'gas guzzlers\') are constantly being vistimised by the beaurocrats and green peace type persons and the like for enjoying these modes of transport.So how does the \'system\' tackle this issue? - put taxation up and fuel prices, just anything to try and force us to take such transportation off the roads. Rather than victimising the motorists perhaps the easiest and fairest way would be to take the \'Road Fund License\' away altogether and impose an extra levy on the fuel (say 5p per litre) to contribute to road maintenance - at least this way all motorists would be encapsulated and pay a proportional amount towards the use of the roads. If you don\'t use you transport often - you pay less but obviously the more you use them the more we should cough up - surely this is a better policy than at present.
Quote from: CHC;755911Ditto John - I\'m the same, believe me. Gone are the days when I had a company car doing loadsamiles and in the latter 5 years my mileage has dropped considerably to something like 10-12K and yes lets be honest the ever increasing cost of fuel has made me think twice about some journeys but not enough to make me change over to a bog standard car which does 40 - 60mpg (although sometimes it would be nice). My point was if we buy a rx7 (or any rotary powered car come to that) we have to expect lowish economy - me, if JAZ & or Golide does 20+ I\'ll be jumping for joy.
Cliff
:wave
I can offer you some encouragement. When she was newer Miss January would normally do mid twenties, less round town and more on a cruise of course. It is only recently that consumption has gone south, which is why I am thinking about a carb rebuild. Another suggestion was to look at the ignition system, ie, new coils, leads, plugs. I suppose I should also check the compression, but having seen discussions of this elsewhere it sounds difficult to do properly / meaningfully.
John
Quote from: johnnyboy;755974I can offer you some encouragement. When she was newer Miss January would normally do mid twenties, less round town and more on a cruise of course. It is only recently that consumption has gone south, which is why I am thinking about a carb rebuild. Another suggestion was to look at the ignition system, ie, new coils, leads, plugs. I suppose I should also check the compression, but having seen discussions of this elsewhere it sounds difficult to do properly / meaningfully.
John
Yeah - I think Tim as saying that he had his checked once, cost £25 (if my memory is correct) but that was quite some time ago. I dare say it would probably be in the region of £150 now.I think you are on the correct wavelength with the electrical side too as through the years cables/leads, plugs, rotor arms & dizzy caps all succumb to long term deterioration so changing them can only improve the efficiency for burning fuel. This just has to be the easier approach and change the \'lead boots\' for slippers rather than a full carb re-build 1st.Cliff
That was the first thing I did when I first got the car. Although I\'ve been half looking at going EFI to get rid of the dizzy and coils.
Shaun
I must admit this is something I haven\'t got around to doing on JAZ but am collecting the necessary replacement parts for Goldie in preparation before she is roadworthy. The engine wasn\'t running when I bought Golide but I was told it did work so I\'ll replace what I can to give it the best possible chance to fire up when ready.
Quote from: captainbizzaro;755883Damn straight.:evillaugh
If your mileage is good, you ain\'t following the redline a day rule.:Hammer
:burnout:burnout:burnout:burnout:burnout
one of those sweet toyota prius hybrids would get good milage:rollin
Quote from: Rivalrx;756228:burnout:burnout:burnout:burnout:burnout
one of those sweet toyota prius hybrids would get good milage:rollin
but it doesn\'t have have that \'ring to it\' like a MAZDA RX7 - pwoorrrrr and it also looks like a piece of ***t OOOPS sorry - it doesn\'t look very nice does it? :Laugh:rollin
prius suck.....big time
I thought I would offer an alternative suggestion for those out there with mpg issues owning a rotang ha ha.
:cheers
buy a diesel euro box as a daily although if its like mine its less reliable than my rx7
bike\'s provide great mpg:Giggle
Push bike :Giggle
Shaun
not enough wheels for me
How\'s about a tricycle then :Laugh :Laugh
I\'m hoping 2 wheels will be my petrol saviour!
Getting a motorbike that\'ll do 60mpg is easy enough and can still be much more fun than a car that does 60mpg :P
If I used the bike 50% of the time and the <20 mpg rx7 the other 50% then it should average out close to 40mpg haha.
Quote from: Steve-A;756582I\'m hoping 2 wheels will be my petrol saviour!
Getting a motorbike that\'ll do 60mpg is easy enough and can still be much more fun than a car that does 60mpg :P
If I used the bike 50% of the time and the <20 mpg rx7 the other 50% then it should average out close to 40mpg haha.
A fair compromise I\'d say - bike in the summer, Rexanne spring & autumn and stay in during the winter months! But does that mean you\'ll spend nearly 8 months of the year inside.... hehehe :rollin