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Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: MiniMike16V on March 06, 2011, 11:37:49 AM
Hey peoples. Been a while since i\'ve posted on here, mostly because I\'ve been unsure about if i could keep my FC on the road. But thanks to a life line in the form of a cheap daily hack, the FC is now staying and becoming a bit of a running project/ fun car.

I\'m pondering on either drifting it, or using it for track days and such. Does anyone know of any affordable ways of getting the car prepared for track use, and if there\'s any way of getting a few extra horses from the naturally aspirated power plant?

Regards

Mike
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 06, 2011, 03:20:55 PM
Yes put a turbo on it. If you are wanting to drift then I would suggest a hydraulic hand brake being the most essential part you need. As it will make it a lot easier to initiate a drift.
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: m1tch on March 06, 2011, 03:55:01 PM
Extra horses from an EGI would entail a high flow air filter and mainly exhaust and porting work, I would also sort out the cooling and fit electric fans behind the rad that you can switch on 100% of the time when drifting, radiators only work if air flows through them, going sideways lots means that the rad isn\'t really getting any air through the front lol
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: MiniMike16V on March 06, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
Have considered forced induction but i would have to change the whole engine as the egi has higher compression rotors :( How easy are hydraulic hand brakes to install?
 
QuoteExtra horses from an EGI would entail a high flow air filter and mainly exhaust and porting work, I would also sort out the cooling and fit electric fans behind the rad that you can switch on 100% of the time when drifting, radiators only work if air flows through them, going sideways lots means that the rad isn\'t really getting any air through the front lol
lol fair point. Would i be right in thinking that most electric fan kits would suit? Also, for extra horses, i\'m already running a straight through exhaust with equal length headers. Un uprated induction kit is next on the agenda. Any recommendations?
 
One more thing (sorry for all the questions) if i were to track it, are regulation roll cages available?
 
Mike
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: papercutout on March 06, 2011, 07:16:03 PM
Someone supercharged an EGi a while back, looked mental, no idea how well it worked though. Lower \'power\' turbo will be OK too btw...


And screw the h/handbrake suggestion above - I\'ve never used or needed one! And it\'ll teach you bad habits - when you\'re learning stick to flicking and clutch kicking. What you need is a welded diff... and that\'s it! Handbrakes end up essential at competition level though. Strip the car out AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. This and the welded diff will make it possible to drift.

Progressively these help:
Coilovers
Bucket seat/harness
Lock spacers on the rack

Roll cages aren\'t needed outside of competition. I\'m using a HKS mushroom filter on my TII, and it works well. But it\'s just what I had lying around!
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: the hat on March 07, 2011, 02:09:44 AM
Quote from: papercutout;747302Someone supercharged an EGi a while back, looked mental, no idea how well it worked though. Lower \'power\' turbo will be OK too btw...


And screw the h/handbrake suggestion above - I\'ve never used or needed one! And it\'ll teach you bad habits - when you\'re learning stick to flicking and clutch kicking. What you need is a welded diff... and that\'s it! Handbrakes end up essential at competition level though. Strip the car out AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. This and the welded diff will make it possible to drift.

Progressively these help:
Coilovers
Bucket seat/harness
Lock spacers on the rack

Roll cages aren\'t needed outside of competition. I\'m using a HKS mushroom filter on my TII, and it works well. But it\'s just what I had lying around!


quoted for truth as ive had a hydro for too long now and its become the worst habit ever although wanding it in for ages is pretty fun

cut spring weld diff job done
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: dthebuk on March 07, 2011, 08:31:14 AM
personally I wouldn\'t spend too much on it if you want to drift it.

I suggest you weld the diff, cut the springs, rear steer eliminators and fit a bucket.

then drift it untill it dies/you get bored and then go for something with more oooomph

:D
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: dthebuk on March 07, 2011, 08:32:03 AM
also regarding the hydro, you wont wanna initiate with a hydro in an EGI, you want to clutch kick it everywhere
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: Skifledanabit on March 09, 2011, 02:56:39 AM
or flick it, done that a few naughty times :D
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: dthebuk on March 09, 2011, 08:22:40 AM
probably need to do both tbh
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: MiniMike16V on March 13, 2011, 11:06:28 AM
Thanks for the info guys :) Got speaking to a couple of mates who are big into the drifting lark, and as much as i\'d love to give it a stab, i\'m not keen on pranging the car too much. Think the track racer route may be a bit safer... my driving skills depending :Giggle It\'ll also be good to race it, as there\'s not enough FCs racing :( I\'ll keep it on the mind though, should be going to a drift day soon, so may have a dabble in the \'play pen\' and get some practice in.
 
Anyone know any good roll cage places near Portsmouth should the track day route win over drifting?
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: papercutout on March 13, 2011, 11:39:44 AM
Just so you know, if you do go and have a go in a play pen, with an open diff it will be CRAP. Like, really, really bad and you\'ll think you and the car suck at drifting and never want to do it again.
Which probably isn\'t true, so it might be worth trying to get hold of the MX5 torsen LSD and chucking one of those in there - it\'ll help both for drifting and track days.

Nickson Motorsport is based somewhere in Surrey and his quality of work is truly amazing - he\'s one of the few fabricators I\'d trust to build me a cage. Search google, or search him on driftworks.
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: dthebuk on March 13, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
woudln\'t be too worried about pranging it unless you\'re drifting it on public roads.

+1 for the mx5 lsd

+1 for nickson, had a good few dealings with him
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: MiniMike16V on March 18, 2011, 05:46:17 PM
Awesome, thanks guys. The MX5 lsd would be the one from the Eunos yeah? From what I gather it\'s a simple install into an FC diff housing?
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: dthebuk on March 18, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
I believe its from the 1.8 car. I\'ve never actaully seen anyone do the conversion. so you might need a few other bits from the mx5, but yes it should fit in the diff housing

No idea how simple it is. The FC diff is a pain in the arse though. Its hard to do with without droppig the subframe
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: papercutout on March 18, 2011, 07:08:37 PM
I recommend dropping the subframe 5cm or so to get the FC diff off, the extra bolt undoing etc saves you time - unless you have hands the size of a kid that\'re really strong.

(James - Nick did my diff after yours and said it made things much easier)
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: turbointhebrain on March 24, 2011, 09:47:56 PM
Quote from: dthebuk;747392personally I wouldn\'t spend too much on it if you want to drift it.

I suggest you weld the diff, cut the springs, rear steer eliminators and fit a bucket.

then drift it untill it dies/you get bored and then go for something with more oooomph

:D

Quote from: dthebuk;747393also regarding the hydro, you wont wanna initiate with a hydro in an EGI, you want to clutch kick it everywhere


this is exactly what I am doing with my series 4 6 port

lethal craic

(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr305/ef2paddy/bishops6.jpg)

(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr305/ef2paddy/bishops7.jpg)

(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr305/ef2paddy/bishops5.jpg)

who said 6ports are no fun!
Title: FC EGI - Drifter maybe???
Post by: dthebuk on March 24, 2011, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: turbointhebrain;751443this is exactly what I am doing with my series 4 6 port

lethal craic

(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr305/ef2paddy/bishops6.jpg)

(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr305/ef2paddy/bishops7.jpg)

(http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr305/ef2paddy/bishops5.jpg)

who said 6ports are no fun!


Good man!!!

TBH i recon 6 ports are far more fun than TII\'s