Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 02, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 02, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
Right first of all hello to all :-)
Before I get ridiculed for having a rotary engine from the rx I must add that the engine was out of a smashed up rx so it\'s not that sacrilegious :-)
Basically I have a Suzuki cappuccino with a 3rd gen engine converted to single turbo , I bought it from a member back on my Suzuki forum , it was a 90%finished project , the car doesn\'t run quite right, it seems to misfire .
I\'m going to trawl through lots of prior posts to get an insight into these car engines but I just thought if there were any quick pointers or common issues I could look at before hand :-)
Any input greatly appreciated and hope I\'ve not made too many people turn in their grave for such a hybrid .... :-/
Before I get ridiculed for having a rotary engine from the rx I must add that the engine was out of a smashed up rx so it\'s not that sacrilegious :-)
Basically I have a Suzuki cappuccino with a 3rd gen engine converted to single turbo , I bought it from a member back on my Suzuki forum , it was a 90%finished project , the car doesn\'t run quite right, it seems to misfire .
I\'m going to trawl through lots of prior posts to get an insight into these car engines but I just thought if there were any quick pointers or common issues I could look at before hand :-)
Any input greatly appreciated and hope I\'ve not made too many people turn in their grave for such a hybrid .... :-/
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 02, 2011, 10:59:02 AM
Post by: BlitzBoy on March 02, 2011, 10:59:02 AM
what ECU is running the engine, Apexi,Stock Mazda etc ?
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: the hat on March 02, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
Post by: the hat on March 02, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
i know the cappichino seen it on the net a few times i thin and its mega i would love it tbh hope you get it sorted out ok
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 02, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 02, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
I will find out what ecu it runs , tbh I got it off the trailer and put under cover at my mates place in his shed where he used to store his 300 bhp westy, I\'m so busy atm iv purposely put it aside or il not get my work done !!
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: gonzoninja on March 02, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
Post by: gonzoninja on March 02, 2011, 09:03:25 PM
OH MY GOD!!! A single turbo rotary in a cappachino must be AWESOME! :)
There\'s a Cappachino for sale in a garage near me...hmmmm...
There\'s a Cappachino for sale in a garage near me...hmmmm...
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: FDAsh on March 02, 2011, 09:19:24 PM
Post by: FDAsh on March 02, 2011, 09:19:24 PM
To be honest, people who think of inventive re-homing for rotaries aren\'t burnt at the stake. Putting a piston engine into an RX is asking for a lynching though ;)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 08:07:48 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 08:07:48 PM
hey all , i thought i better go put my intelligent charger on the battery on the little car, had a quick look at it, it runs a std ecu, i didnt realise you could convert to a single turbo and run stock computer... anyway i was just thinking , read on some threads that you can get the injector plugs mixed up and put onto the wrong injectors?
I\'ll post up some engine bay pics soon but i didnt have a light yesterday which hindered taking any good pics on my phone. :-/
I\'ll post up some engine bay pics soon but i didnt have a light yesterday which hindered taking any good pics on my phone. :-/
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Aubec on March 21, 2011, 08:50:10 PM
Post by: Aubec on March 21, 2011, 08:50:10 PM
If its a 3rd gen (FD) then you can\'t run a single tubby with the factory ECU. It could be a second gen perhaps? Or your running problems are because it is a 3rd gen and the ECU doesn\'t have a clue whats going on...
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: clive on March 21, 2011, 09:06:08 PM
Post by: clive on March 21, 2011, 09:06:08 PM
Hi Pete and welcome to MRC,
Good luck with the project, hopefully it will be finished in time for Rotorstock in August where we can see where we can see this crazy little car thats going to be a real handful to drive :D
(do you have any pictures ?)
Good luck with the project, hopefully it will be finished in time for Rotorstock in August where we can see where we can see this crazy little car thats going to be a real handful to drive :D
(do you have any pictures ?)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:11:44 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:11:44 PM
pics are will be posted up soon, im sure it was a 3rd gen ( fd series right ? ) which in my little knowledge is the very smooth looking generation? gimme a few mins and il try and fish out the smashed up rex which the lump came from.
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 09:23:06 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 09:23:06 PM
Was it for sale on eBay a while back? I saw a totally custom white Cappuccino Spyder with no windscreen or roof or anything that had a 13b lump in it.
I was going to do a 13b Cappuccino at one point, then found the described above one on ebay and lost heart, since I was hoping it hadn\'t been done before. :/
I was going to do a 13b Cappuccino at one point, then found the described above one on ebay and lost heart, since I was hoping it hadn\'t been done before. :/
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: FDAsh on March 21, 2011, 09:25:20 PM
Post by: FDAsh on March 21, 2011, 09:25:20 PM
3rd Gen (FD)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/31199_396280437962_503322962_4378413_867162_n.jpg)
Normal FD engine (13B REW):
(http://www.okura-auto.co.jp/rw/album/mpengine/image/re_r000019.jpg)
Hope that helps.
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/31199_396280437962_503322962_4378413_867162_n.jpg)
Normal FD engine (13B REW):
(http://www.okura-auto.co.jp/rw/album/mpengine/image/re_r000019.jpg)
Hope that helps.
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: captainbizzaro on March 21, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
Post by: captainbizzaro on March 21, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
That sounds cool as
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:42:24 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:42:24 PM
yes its the white one, he was on my cappuccino forum and i watched his 13 page plus build diary of it take place. He has done loads to it, fr n rear subframes been blasted, galvanised and painted, all suspension blasted and powder coated with new bushes , brand new coil over suspension kit, new grooved n drilled discs and pads, plus loads more. Quick q to all, how do you attach pics from my hard drive? looked on ur faq bit and it says look at bottom of page for attaching pics but all im finding is insert pic and only getting a url option :-/
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:50:04 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:50:04 PM
that red 3rd gen pic is lovely, they look so nice unfettled / no bodykit etc , the roofline oozes styling lines of a single seater le mans car . Just a set of wheels and they look utterly gorgeous ;-)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:56:58 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 09:56:58 PM
if you think my one is a mental project you wanna see the other chap on my suzy forum, he has gone the whole nine yards and made it a porsche beater, it beats a porsche ( think a gt3 ) off the line ! he made totally new front and rear suspension, widened it by about 4 inches each side ( no exagerration! ) so it sits on think 8 or 10 inch mag spun rims , custom rear diff ( think its mtx 2000 diff with interchangeable ratios which he can do via in the boot :-) , suzuki gsxr1000 engine in it too, diffuser system running underneath, just the sort of bloke who us mere mortals get extremely jealous over his skills at cnc milling , race tech knowledge and general race car building...
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:17:57 PM
Quote from: nc30pete;750659yes its the white one, he was on my cappuccino forum and i watched his 13 page plus build diary of it take place. He has done loads to it, fr n rear subframes been blasted, galvanised and painted, all suspension blasted and powder coated with new bushes , brand new coil over suspension kit, new grooved n drilled discs and pads, plus loads more. Quick q to all, how do you attach pics from my hard drive? looked on ur faq bit and it says look at bottom of page for attaching pics but all im finding is insert pic and only getting a url option :-/
Upload it to imageshack or photobucket etc and use the URL
And FYI for anybody who hasn\'t seen it this car is a BEAST!!!! Not a fan of the Spyderised no-windscreen but each to their own :)
Either way it\'s an amazing piece of kit, saw it on ebay months back possibly around october time? Slightly before? Stunning in every respect, seriously.
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:19:22 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:19:22 PM
(http://mrcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Cappuccino_Spider.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:20:16 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:20:16 PM
(http://www.racingandwaiting.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Rotary-Maz.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:23:12 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:23:12 PM
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a323/Cappo_/2260310-5.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 10:32:22 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 10:32:22 PM
thats my rice rocket :-) its been on ebay few times but no one was brave enough to buy at his starting prices with the running issues, but he then bought his new house and needed that gone quick , i won it for 2k :-) few hrs after auction ended some german bloke said he missed auction and said he would buy for 3k - too late sucker!! lol
it looks like my std ecu is to blame for the poor running, what gets me atm is that why would he go to rewiring it all and not look into if its possible to run a single turbo with std ecu ???
it looks like my std ecu is to blame for the poor running, what gets me atm is that why would he go to rewiring it all and not look into if its possible to run a single turbo with std ecu ???
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 10:37:37 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 10:37:37 PM
hopefully this worked and u can see the rex donor !
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Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Brett on March 21, 2011, 10:40:01 PM
Post by: Brett on March 21, 2011, 10:40:01 PM
Not working for me.... but it looks epic!
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:42:56 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 10:42:56 PM
Knew exactly what car you were on about from the get go, wanted to bit myself but I\'m notoriously broke for one reason or another, plus I don\'t have dry storage to warrant buying a topless car unfortunately! Congrats on the purchase! If you don\'t bring it to the shows I\'ll kill you myself ^_^
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
all you need to do is buy a shed , they are so ludicrously small they fit in them ;-) like i said i got a very good friend who likes his toys too , last year he had an m3csl and a 300bhp westy, m3 sat in his double garage and the westy in his new shed he had made for the westy, which now is where my machine resides ;-) his westy round goodwood was a hoon to drive but i still wish he used the m3 on there too as i think it would of been better in some ways, photobucket isnt working for some reason, did when i posted up pics of my rebuilt motorbike on the bike forum i use, im a tad confused....
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 11:08:30 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 21, 2011, 11:08:30 PM
I only rent, don\'t own a house, and am only 23 so not likely to for a long time yet to come. Shy of dumping a cover over it and hoping for the best, didnt have suitable storage. :/
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:12:18 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:12:18 PM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/rexy.jpg)
ok ok im a dumbass , one needs to realise it was a bit longer than he realised and quickly refreshed on how to upload pics courtesy of the help section on photobucket:Hammer
ok ok im a dumbass , one needs to realise it was a bit longer than he realised and quickly refreshed on how to upload pics courtesy of the help section on photobucket:Hammer
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:15:27 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:15:27 PM
cant use url bit on page but can use img code and paste in that way ! more pics to follow ...
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: neil_jdmr on March 21, 2011, 11:34:22 PM
Post by: neil_jdmr on March 21, 2011, 11:34:22 PM
If that\'s the donor car fella its not a single turbo I\'m afraid its a standard twin because I can see the pair of intake pipes on the blitz filters.
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:50:51 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:50:51 PM
it is a single turbo, he convnerted to a single after he got the engine in the suzuki bud ;-)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:55:55 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 21, 2011, 11:55:55 PM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/cimg1438sm1.jpg)
chassis after transmission tunnel chop and re fab
chassis after transmission tunnel chop and re fab
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/cimg2659sm1.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:04:43 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:04:43 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/photo0017_sm1.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:05:13 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:05:13 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/cimg2432sm1.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:07:52 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:07:52 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/cimg2348sm1.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:08:29 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:08:29 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/th_cimg2247s1.jpg?t=1300751912) (http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/?action=view¤t=cimg2247s1.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:09:39 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:09:39 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/cimg1799_640x4801.jpg)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:12:07 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:12:07 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/cimg1790_640x4801.jpg) Garrett t3 i believe he used
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:14:05 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:14:05 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/photo0154a1.jpg)
not as noisy as i expected ....
not as noisy as i expected ....
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:36:09 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:36:09 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/goddards1.jpg)
other busa powered nutta cappo
other busa powered nutta cappo
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:44:17 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:44:17 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/whatbootfloor1.jpg)
see how easy to change ratios - he makes me sick !
see how easy to change ratios - he makes me sick !
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:45:03 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:45:03 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Rx7%20suzuki%20cappuccino%20quest/fadass1.jpg)
told you he widened it!
told you he widened it!
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: philiwily on March 22, 2011, 02:27:12 AM
Post by: philiwily on March 22, 2011, 02:27:12 AM
It\'s crazy someone went to all that trouble and expense and then sold it for 2 grand. Nice though.
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:38:08 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:38:08 PM
yes i got a good buy indeed, still very jealous of the busa powered cappo, ill post up some more pics of that one to give you an idea just how far an extreme he went to to makie it such a track weapon, he got 1st place second go out in the super saloon class ;-)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:40:06 PM
Post by: nc30pete on March 22, 2011, 12:40:06 PM
just realised i made i noobie faux pas, this section isnt for technical posts so i shall re post in tech section to try and get to the bottom of my running issues with the engine :-/
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: trotter on March 22, 2011, 01:34:18 PM
Post by: trotter on March 22, 2011, 01:34:18 PM
What an awesome wee piece of kit!! That must go like the proverbial sheet of a shovel!!
Also, did anyone else notice the irony of entitling a technical thread about rotaries as "A few tips..." :)
graeme
oh, don\'t worry about reposting, just ask a nice Mr Mod to shift the thread for ya! ;)
Also, did anyone else notice the irony of entitling a technical thread about rotaries as "A few tips..." :)
graeme
oh, don\'t worry about reposting, just ask a nice Mr Mod to shift the thread for ya! ;)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: fil_auto on March 22, 2011, 01:36:53 PM
Post by: fil_auto on March 22, 2011, 01:36:53 PM
yep, you can see the small single tub....and that\'s defo a standard ECU ;)
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: Lacey on March 22, 2011, 02:44:57 PM
Post by: Lacey on March 22, 2011, 02:44:57 PM
Should really be in the Other Rotary Powered Vehicles. :) since it\'s not an FD anymore, but awesome none the less!
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on March 23, 2011, 09:15:20 AM
Post by: nc30pete on March 23, 2011, 09:15:20 AM
I thought about the ironic statement about tips , but only way after I posted the thread lol
Reason I put it in here originally was because of what series the engine came from, iv already started a new thread in tech section . Cheers so far peoples !
Reason I put it in here originally was because of what series the engine came from, iv already started a new thread in tech section . Cheers so far peoples !
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: FDAsh on March 23, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
Post by: FDAsh on March 23, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
That looks like such a riot. :D
Title: A few tips etc
Post by: nc30pete on April 06, 2014, 11:35:44 PM
Post by: nc30pete on April 06, 2014, 11:35:44 PM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff235/nc30pete/Snapbucket/5722D40D_zps95be6228.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/nc30pete/media/Snapbucket/5722D40D_zps95be6228.jpg.html)
donked some better looking wheels on the sled , borbet 8j rears n 7j up front , think next is some mx5 overfenders / arch kits to give it that old school look , i dont really like the rear arch lip anyway...
donked some better looking wheels on the sled , borbet 8j rears n 7j up front , think next is some mx5 overfenders / arch kits to give it that old school look , i dont really like the rear arch lip anyway...