Has anyone seen whats happened in f1 over winter?
It makes sense to start a 2011 discussion thread.
Renault F1 will be renamed Lotus Renault F1, basically Lotus Group (who are designing 5 brand new cars to come out over the next 2--3 years) want to get back in F1.
However, there is already an existing Lotus f1 team, Team Lotus.....run by Tony Fernandes and the Petronas group.
So, next year, we will have 4 lotus cars on the grid over two completely different teams.:Hammer
I really dont know how its going to work.......quite amazing really.
Easily the best looking cars on the grid. Will they be powered by the same engine?
are they not changing to 1.6 turbo engines? as read in autocar.. or maybe thats nxt year?
Ferrari will be announcing details / unveiling their car in the last week of this month.
IIRC thats the year after next (2013) with the 1.6 engines - bring back the 2004 season. Can\'t believe how many track records are set iin this year.
Quote from: turbo boy;735275Easily the best looking cars on the grid. Will they be powered by the same engine?
Lotus Renault will be exactly that.
Team lotus run Cosworth engines.
the 1.6 turbo 4 cylinders dont come in until 2013.
Quote from: goldk28611;735279- bring back the 2004 season. Can\'t believe how many track records are set iin this year.
Na dude, circuits are constantly changed every few years, so lap records are are only valid for those years. You get a 80s Turbo F1 car or an early 90s active suspension car like the Williams they will be much quicker then the cars of 2004 cars on an identical circuit IMO
Quote from: Dan Norton;735281Lotus Renault will be exactly that.
Team lotus run Cosworth engines.
wrong.
Team Lotus have done a deal with renault to have there engines and redbulls gearbox
so there is will be:
Team Lotus Renault(green) and Group Lotus Renault(black and gold)
Quote from: turbotoaster;735303wrong.
Team Lotus have done a deal with renault to have there engines and redbulls gearbox
so there is will be:
Team Lotus Renault(green) and Group Lotus Renault(black and gold)
Correct.....
So, to re--itterate, two seperate Lotus teams, both running renault engines.
the group lotus cars look amazing.
I remember seeing the old skool turbo f1 cars at goodward in 09, awsome machines.
Although i dont think they were reliable, and a highly strung out turbo`d 1.6 is just asking for trouble!
Also, Ferrari have given a few people the flick... looks like a cover up to draw peopled attention away from the fact that too many people in the team were jumping to Alonso\'s tune, rather than making tactical decisions...
Williams are looking good...
Mercedes have no excuses...
McLaren, Ferrari & Red Bull - business as usual at the front?
Personally, I can\'t wait for it to kick off again :)
The 1.5 Turbo Engines in the 80s were getting 1400 bhp in qualifying but only 750 bhp in the race. I reckon there won\'t be much difference in pace between the N/A 2.4 V8s and the Turbos.
Quote from: turbo boy;735311I remember seeing the old skool turbo f1 cars at goodward in 09, awsome machines.
Although i dont think they were reliable, and a highly strung out turbo`d 1.6 is just asking for trouble!
they are going to be limited rev wise.....there is talk of a 10--12k rev limit.
Is it true the turbo lumps will be limited to 12,000 rpm? And also the reduction in engine size is to show there help for fuel economy? I can\'t see there being much difference in the GPM ( gallons per mile )
Believe the 80\'s turbo qualify engines were runningclose to 4 bar! That\'s amazing
That\'s not coming back though, as the FIA are sticking with the "only x amount of engines allowed per season", so they have to be reliable.
1400 bhp will never return to F1 sadly :(
The immense horsepower was possible because they were running insane boost levels, these were possible due to the freaky fuels they were running. Toluene based stuff with all sorts of other additives to make is resistant to detonation.
Even though they are keeping this amount of engines per season rule, the turbo motors should be interesting, running along side the Kees they are going to be having, and hopefully adjustable boost from the drivers steering wheel. Could we even see the use of water injection in the turbo engines to give them the reliability and the power?
I have read that the weights of the cars will be going up so a bit if extra water shouldn\'t make much difference
Lots of tricky funky stuff they can do with the turbo engines, not all the turbo engines will have the same power and torque curves ;)
What does everyone think to the reintroduction of Kers in this next season of f1? Seen as mcclaren were the only ones that really had a good system from what I can remember? BMw\'s flywheel Kers never really worked but was by far the simplest and largest extra power producer?
Williams has spent an awful lot of time and money working on KERS over the last 4 years... I expect them to have something pretty tidy in that regard... :Giggle
Generally KERS will be a good thing - especially if some of the bigger teams are prepared to sell the tech to the smaller outfits...