Hi guys,
i was just wondering if anyone has any info on sticking a v8 into an fd3s?
I brought the car cheep as u may know and want to use it for drifting. Im not 100% convinced the rotary will be up for the job, dont get my wrong its runs well but if i spend 1k getting it serviced mapped etc then in a years time it goes pop its gona then be the best part of 2 - 3k for a rebuild. Im thinking you cant beat the sound of a v8, the power is there and they are reliable.
Has anyone done this?
I will be taking the engine out in the new year along with all the other tuning goodies so keep an eye on the forsale section aswel.
Cheers Stu
Quote from: STU13 B;734526Hi guys,
i was just wondering if anyone has any info on sticking a v8 into an fd3s?
I brought the car cheep as u may know and want to use it for drifting. Im not 100% convinced the rotary will be up for the job, dont get my wrong its runs well but if i spend 1k getting it serviced mapped etc then in a years time it goes pop its gona then be the best part of 2 - 3k for a rebuild. Im thinking you cant beat the sound of a v8, the power is there and they are reliable.
Has anyone done this?
I will be taking the engine out in the new year along with all the other tuning goodies so keep an eye on the forsale section aswel.
Cheers Stu
I just highlighted part of your text that could not be further from the truth!
A yank engine better sounding than a rotary? :spank
Now go and wash your mouth with bleach!
I would speak to the drift guys who have a rotary first, a v8 conversion will bite you in the leg getting it done, don\'t kid yourself into thinking that it will be cheap.
This is becoming a disturbing trend, where people with engines that are fine are still deciding to cop out and get a conversion.
I have nothing against the v8, by all means sell your rx7 and buy a chevy :Thumbsup!
A rx7 with a v8 is like a chick with a d!ck (quoted from rx7club), it\'s just not right!
Quite a few done and i\'d love one myself.......prepare for the on slaught of angry Pro-Rotary lads though :flamed
Dave.
oh god no. the V8 question. your in for the chop now dude. quick run and hide, i`ll hold them off as long as i can ;-)
i`d recommend using the search button. you`ll find info via that.
also want a v8 fd. hope you have 10k spare. you`ll need it for the conversion
If your wanting to lok at the conversion and the parts needed, check these guys out http://grannys.tripod.com/3rdgenrx7chevyv8.html.
They seem to be the guys most people get the kits from.
you can be looking to spend anything between 10-£15,000 depending on how much if any of the conversion you can do yourself.
Hp from an LS v8 will probably give you 400hp with the same in torque.
10-£15,00 spent on a 13b could give you upwards of 550hp. Rough guesses from me.
Dont worry about people saying "your taking away what an RX7 is, its a rotor and should have a rotor in it" blah blah blah. at least you would be keeping it as a whole car with just a different engine in it, unlike some people that when they have completed their rx7 project and want to start another rx7 project strip the car down and sell the parts which removes another of these amazing cars from the streets.
If i had £15,000 spare cash i would have a v8 with out thinking twice about it!!:Thumbs-up:Thumbs-up:Thumbs-up
V8\'s sound awesome, rotaries sound awesome too, however the v8 would have to have straight exhaust for me just for the sheer smile factor!
Hope this helps???
i LOVE the sound and love v8 rexs. i want one and a full bridge fd... hmmm
Quote from: skybusr34;734549i LOVE the sound and love v8 rexs. i want one and a full bridge fd... hmmm
Im having full bridge in my rx4, cant wait!!
I want a methanol v8 in my fd too though!:rollin:rollin:rollin v8 roar and spitting flames out both side!!! :D:D:D
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734553Im having full bridge in my rx4, cant wait!!
I want a methanol v8 in my fd too though!:rollin:rollin:rollin v8 roar and spitting flames out both side!!! :D:D:D
hmmmmm i think i did a sex wee almost then:chat
in fact i want one of these in my FD, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atZq47WWqc4&feature=sub
just checked on youtube and a new video from one of my subscriptions, Nelson Racing Engines, cost of these engines are $40,000 upwards so in real english £\'s that about tenty quid, bargain!:rollin:rollin
For a second there I thought I was on mazdaPISTONclub.com
I had to check the URL just to make sure!
The URL is playing tricks on us!
Quote from: Rzla;734558For a second there I thought I was on mazdaPISTONclub.com
I had to check the URL just to make sure!
The URL is playing tricks on us!
BLAH BLAH BLAH:flamed
Quote from: skybusr34;734559BLAH BLAH BLAH:flamed
I see your location says Oldones shed... I hope you are telling him what you say on here lol :spank
I am sure he will take kindly to it :p
i have full and unmost respect for the rotary. always have always will . but i have the ability to open my mind a teny tiny amount to the conceavable possibility that something else could be as good. thats all
and as the the youngones shed.. he know my rotary love and knows he`ll be building me an awesome full bridge this year
thumbs are up and smoking my peace pipe in the corner :-)
Quote from: skybusr34;734563i have full and unmost respect for the rotary. always have always will . but i have the ability to open my mind a teny tiny amount to the conceavable possibility that something else could be as good. thats all
and as the the youngones shed.. he know my rotary love and knows he`ll be building me an awesome full bridge this year
thumbs are up and smoking my peace pipe in the corner :-)
Haha good good :Thumbsup!
I don\'t mind v8s... just buy a chevy if someone wants one, it has one in it already!
Quote from: Rzla;734565Haha good good :Thumbsup!
I don\'t mind v8s... just buy a chevy if someone wants one, it has one in it already!
:Thumbs-up
Quote from: Rzla;734565Haha good good :Thumbsup!
I don\'t mind v8s... just buy a chevy if someone wants one, it has one in it already!
Would it be wrong then to put a rotor in a chevy? Or is it ok doing stuff that way? converting piston to rotor? but not rotor to piston?
a 3rotor turbo in a manaro? or maybe into a pontiac firebird? which i happen to have in the garden!
i think im getting carried away now,
No disrespect to anyone,, but love to race v8 with my 20b.. Wanna c how many car gaps do I give to it... V8 are viruses which have been downloaded into the rotary engines... This conversation makes me laugh.....go on mate it\'s ur money so do wat u have to do!!!
Quote from: Mir;734571No disrespect to anyone,, but love to race v8 with my 20b.. Wanna c how many car gaps do I give to it... V8 are viruses which have been downloaded into the rotary engines... This conversation makes me laugh.....go on mate it\'s ur money so do wat u have to do!!!
I know there would be no comparison in performance, but if a v8 had similar modifications to your 20b what would win?
eg, a turbo, 8,000rpm, big cam, lightened flywheel etc etc.
V8 would win hands down? but obviously the cost in developing the v8 with that spec would cost a lot more so comparisons where 2 cars have different specs would be pointless
Quotebut love to race v8 with my 20b.. Wanna c how many car gaps do I give to it
I have no issue with any of this but be aware there is a very nice 680bhp V8 FD [before the twin turbos were fitted] which you may surprise you.
Each to their own - I respect them both.
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734573I know there would be no comparison in performance, but if a v8 had similar modifications to your 20b what would win?
eg, a turbo, 8,000rpm, big cam, lightened flywheel etc etc.
V8 would win hands down? but obviously the cost in developing the v8 with that spec would cost a lot more so comparisons where 2 cars have different specs would be pointless
without prejudice
well I m sure even if all those mods u mentioned are done to the v8,, I seriously doubt that v8 would even come near to 20b..I m not exagerating.. But trust me once u own a race spec 20b which I had and currently being prepared for a 1000bhp launch at Wgt, u would c my point. I have driven v8 and owned one for 2 years.. I can live with fact that v8 "may be" reliably tuned compared with rotary but I m sorry can\'t accept that v8 would beat rotary... I wud love to b proved wrong but I m sure that wud need some time for piston to grow more...
Regards
Quote from: johnf;734575I have no issue with any of this but be aware there is a very nice 680bhp V8 FD [before the twin turbos were fitted] which you may surprise you.
Each to their own - I respect them both.
Really? where can i see this beast? is it the one that was in the general section a while ago? as i keep checking for it but no updates? twin gt35 IIRC?
I enjoy both rotaries and v8\'s as they both make awsome sounds (worlds apart though they are) but if any rotor ethusiast that can say they wouldnt have a smile in the corner of their mouth if they watched any main event at santa pod, bracket racers all the way to top fuellers, v8s sound good and the performance is insane!
There is a fair few V8 RX7\'s in the country and most of them get used properly on Track. I have one and love it to bits. If I was to do it again I\'d go for the newer LS3 engine over a LS1/2/6. I researched the conversion for a good while and had the engine before I had a chassis to put it in, the choice was either, Porsche 944 or 968 and the Mazda. The Mazda chassis was a better choice for me and I\'ve always loved the shape of the FD. I looked into all the conversion routes, Granny\'s and Hinson Kits but it was more cost effective and undoubtedly a better job to have it built for me by Craig Taylor ( tinker27 )
Good luck and keep us posted on how you get on.
Quote from: Mir;734576without prejudice
well I m sure even if all those mods u mentioned are done to the v8,, I seriously doubt that v8 would even come near to 20b..I m not exagerating.. But trust me once u own a race spec 20b which I had and currently being prepared for a 1000bhp launch at Wgt, u would c my point. I have driven v8 and owned one for 2 years.. I can live with fact that v8 "may be" reliably tuned compared with rotary but I m sorry can\'t accept that v8 would beat rotary... I wud love to b proved wrong but I m sure that wud need some time for piston to grow more...
Regards
i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?
surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734579i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?
surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?
the Rotor did beat the piston and then all the boinger lovers threw their teddy out the pram and got the 787b banned from leMans :Viking
Quote from: rx7boy;734580the Rotor did beat the piston and then all the boinger lovers threw their teddy out the pram and got the 787b banned from leMans :Viking
:flamed
:Thumbsup!
:WaveBye
Quote from: rx7boy;734580the Rotor did beat the piston and then all the boinger lovers threw their teddy out the pram and got the 787b banned from leMans :Viking
ha good point, i retract my statement and walk away with my head down in shame, how did i forget about that!!:Hammer:Hammer
Long live the 787B!!! Brap Brap Brap
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734579i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?
surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?
And why do you think that sir?
well we have all had it now the damned oil burners are destroying all other cars out there.
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734579i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?
surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?
As said without prejudice
I hope u r right, but I m afraid that I m not convinced.. It has been mentioned that there is 680bhp v8 so let c if I ever had a race with her. My car need to come out for running in may b next week, I m running a smaller turbo to run it in and waiting for some cash to change my ecu from microtech to motec..if by that v8 680bhp was there I would love to test my car out with it-just c wat v8 would do with my 20b..
As I mentioned above in the first line I m doing this conversation not to cause anyone any offence, just airing my opinion...that\'s all really
hope no one is getting offended by my coments.
Regards
Quote from: Rzla;734583And why do you think that sir?
Well if we look at the peak performance of a rotor and a piston engine, we have the 787B in rotary corner and either a formual1 car or the audi lemans diesels in the other, which would win? these are the peaks of performance and the piston would win every time, if only rotaries had the same develpoment as what the piston engines have had instead of the aftermarket doing the development with little money.
Quote from: Mir;734585As said without prejudice
I hope u r right, but I m afraid that I m not convinced.. It has been mentioned that there is 680bhp v8 so let c if I ever had a race with her. My car need to come out for running in may b next week, I m running a smaller turbo to run it in and waiting for some cash to change my ecu from microtech to motec..if by that v8 680bhp was there I would love to test my car out with it-just c wat v8 would do with my 20b..
As I mentioned above in the first line I m doing this conversation not to cause anyone any offence, just airing my opinion...that\'s all really
hope no one is getting offended by my coments.
Regards
I dont think anyone will be offended with what you say at all, im not, infact i think people may be jealous of you having a 20B because i am
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734586Well if we look at the peak performance of a rotor and a piston engine, we have the 787B in rotary corner and either a formual1 car or the audi lemans diesels in the other, which would win? these are the peaks of performance and the piston would win every time, if only rotaries had the same develpoment as what the piston engines have had instead of the aftermarket doing the development with little money.
Does a diesel engine have pistons?? If the diesel engine have pistons, I would c ur point..but if not then Audi diesel should not b compared with rotor as we r comparing piston v rotor..so far I m aware diesel don\'t have pistons, it has taputs or something they call it.. As far formula one is concerned, v can\'t compare it coz apperantly it\'s a formula 1 car made for desired purpose I.e racing,,not a rotor or v8 which is driven on road.. Don\'t b jealous of me, I m very down to earth.. Will meet u some day..
Regards
STU13B see what you`ve done hahaha
Quote from: skybusr34;734590STU13B see what you`ve done hahaha
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Quote from: Mir;734588Does a diesel engine have pistons?? If the diesel engine have pistons, I would c ur point..but if not then Audi diesel should not b compared with rotor as we r comparing piston v rotor..so far I m aware diesel don\'t have pistons, it has taputs or something they call it.. As far formula one is concerned, v can\'t compare it coz apperantly it\'s a formula 1 car made for desired purpose I.e racing,,not a rotor or v8 which is driven on road.. Don\'t b jealous of me, I m very down to earth.. Will meet u some day..
Regards
I will look forward to meeting you some time. Diesels do have pistons unless they have redesigned them? they go uppy downy so must be a piston?
a little bit off point but there was a rotary engine designed for a tank that would run on diesel and any form of fuel that could be used if they ever ran out of diesel
Is your 20b finished now Syed? I\'ll have to come to some meets just to have a look at it as it sounds mighty fine :cheers. In a perfect world i\'d like a 20b, a V8 and also a GTR engined FD3s.
Dave.
dave your throwing petrol on this fire adding an rb26 into the mix... lol
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Some pics of mine in progress !! Give me a ring if you want some info on a v8 conversion
You could also speak to Matt Saab on fduk who actually drifts a v8 fd and get some real info , or Craig winstanly who ran one in time attack Craig 07950399080
quite possibly the nicest looking intercooler to intake pipe i`ve seen in a rex lol
Anyway 1000hp let\'s raise the stakes a bet two gt35s @ 1 bar on a 7 litre motor what do you think ?
The turbo to intercooler pipes are titanium as well ( although I need to remake them as they hit the rad !!! 6 hours wasted !!!)
Craig that things is going to be an absolute weapon !! I do find these V8 threads go round and round, yes its a shame to see the rotary being ditched, but hey if any engine to replace it then let it be a V8 !!
All joking aside surely it\'s better to convert it than break it as so many seem to be doing
Quote from: tinker-27;734609All joking aside surely it\'s better to convert it than break it as so many seem to be doing
yep totally agree.
Quote from: rx-dave;734595Is your 20b finished now Syed? I\'ll have to come to some meets just to have a look at it as it sounds mighty fine :cheers. In a perfect world i\'d like a 20b, a V8 and also a GTR engined FD3s.
Dave.
Hi Dave
Unfortunately, its not ready yet!! Will be ready God\'s willing next week or so...my previous rebuild was f**** up just because of the tunning, however; this time I am taking no chances that is why its taking more time...Pip at WGT is doing some magic so see what he can bring me...a 1000bhp as hoped or less!!!
Where abouts you live Dav, as you know I have to do running of the car any way so I might just pop over to you have a quick chat and then off I go??
I like the way you mentioned 20B (above) before all those piston engine lollll:cheers
I am undecided with the Gear Box at the moment as I want to keep OS Giken\'s gears in the FD trane, but people are suggesting otherwise so see how I go about that....I hate putting a gear box on my car which is not of a rotary box i.e. Vipers box etc etc...
Will meet you any way, waiting on the delivery of the car..:3gears-rh
Regards
Syed
Quote from: skybusr34;734597dave your throwing petrol on this fire adding an rb26 into the mix... lol
I just like things a little different :2Rolleyes
Quote from: Mir;734617Hi Dave
Unfortunately, its not ready yet!! Will be ready God\'s willing next week or so...my previous rebuild was f**** up just because of the tunning, however; this time I am taking no chances that is why its taking more time...Pip at WGT is doing some magic so see what he can bring me...a 1000bhp as hoped or less!!!
Where abouts you live Dav, as you know I have to do running of the car any way so I might just pop over to you have a quick chat and then off I go??
I like the way you mentioned 20B (above) before all those piston engine lollll:cheers
I am undecided with the Gear Box at the moment as I want to keep OS Giken\'s gears in the FD trane, but people are suggesting otherwise so see how I go about that....I hate putting a gear box on my car which is not of a rotary box i.e. Vipers box etc etc...
Will meet you any way, waiting on the delivery of the car..:3gears-rh
Regards
Syed
Hi Syed,
I\'m in South Wales and you\'d be extremely welcome anytime!! If that\'s a bit too far let me know as i\'ll travel closer to you as i\'d really like to see your car.
If money were no object the 20b with a massive turbo would be my first choice, then the V8 and finally a Skyline / Supra engine.........in reality this last choice may end up being my first as i\'m a classic at starting a project then never finishing :2Rolleyes and i already have lots of Skyline parts here already.
I\'ve been offered an R35 at a great price by a mate who\'ll need to sell soon so i\'m also toying with that........
Let me know when you are up and running and i\'ll get my camera ready, i\'m sure Mark aka Mr Skybusr34 would be extremely interested to see it as well so i\'m sure he\'ll also be there :cheers
Dave.
Quote from: tinker-27;734606The turbo to intercooler pipes are titanium as well ( although I need to remake them as they hit the rad !!! 6 hours wasted !!!)
This is a bit of a silly question but what do you use to weld titanium? A gig welder with titanium filler rods?
When are you hoping to get the v8 Twin Turbo up and running? Would like to see your car, where abouts are you located?
Quote from: rx-dave;734624I just like things a little different :2Rolleyes
i\'m sure Mark aka Mr Skybusr34 would be extremely interested to see it as well so i\'m sure he\'ll also be there :cheers
Dave.
im here.. let me know when and i`ll be on it.. like a tramp on a sandwich:Hammer
You use ti filler rods or just fuse it together , same as stainless or mild steel but it\'s normally thinner so harder to do . It also has to be clean like alloy . Hoping to have it running for the spring ? Im in Birmingham in my workshop you are more than welcome to pop in for a coffee and have a look .
These threads always descend into a roundabout of intrasigence lol. I love both V8s and rotaries. Part of me wishes I\'d gone for a V8 long ago (about two engines back lol) part of me is glad I stuck with the rotary and made it work. One of each would be best, I think....
Craig, would you entertain a one-off welding repair to a titanium exhaust I managed to break?
yes i can weld it for you as long as its not to far gone , let me know if you need it doing, as for the whole v8 v rotary debate it will go on and on but i just wish people would realise its not a "which is best contest " there are more people do it to make a great car than fix a blown rotary. at least with nearly 20 out there now we have proved it works so its on track and the road . what other rear wheel drive sports car can you get for sub 30 grand that has the performance of one of these ? 400 bhp @ wheels 1250 kg ? a tvr is probably the closest (only 75 bhp down),
If you want to have a v8 in an fd (or any car fir that matter:) , look no further than the man above. I\'ve seen a fair few of Craig\'s conversions while i\'ve been standing around having the pi** taken, waiting for him to fix my .... ups, and i never cease to be impressed at the work and attention to detail that he lavishes in the cars. Truly epic.
I\'ve always said my ideal garage would have a white 13b powered fd, and a black burnout kitted ls. Both brilliant cars, both brlliant engines. Arguing about which is better is purile, you may as well discuss whose dad would beat up whose, or whether an xbox is in fact better than a ps3.
Great work Tinker.
That is definitely a work of art.
Your work is top notch. No doubt about it.
Just seeing it in a rx7 is something I can\'t agree to. Not knocking your work or anything at all, that\'s just my opinion. Just put it in anything else and I can enjoy it :p
Where do you see a rotary in the world? In a rx7...
The audience for a rotary is already small enough as it is.. therefore those who decide to try and advance the rotary by commiting to R&D to improve it etc need the support of the small community it involves.
As more ditch the rotary, the less costs on R&D can be covered by those rotary tuners and builders.
It will be a sad day when no one continues to develop the rotary engine because the customer base is not there to do so.
My 2p worth
Quote from: tinker-27;734658yes i can weld it for you as long as its not to far gone , let me know if you need it doing, as for the whole v8 v rotary debate it will go on and on but i just wish people would realise its not a "which is best contest " there are more people do it to make a great car than fix a blown rotary. at least with nearly 20 out there now we have proved it works so its on track and the road . what other rear wheel drive sports car can you get for sub 30 grand that has the performance of one of these ? 400 bhp @ wheels 1250 kg ? a tvr is probably the closest (only 75 bhp down),
Excellent stuff, I\'ll get some pics of the split and PM them to you so you can offer an opinion if it\'s possible. :D
I also agree on the "not just an alternative to a blown engine" argument, the Yanks have always been able to make incredible engines even out of old skool pushrod tech, it was simply the rest of the cars that were wretched dynamically. Putting a snorting v8 into a decent chassis is hardly a brain-teaser, is it?
Mind you, the rotary is an amazing engine in it\'s own right, too. What it isn\'t is durable :(
Hi guys, I agree with durability and blown engine comments above, but I would like to stress this point that rotary is not durable in the UK, as unfortunately we don\'t have tuners like Gabby Skern from port Rico and Alex of Kiwi Re from newzeland. If u luk at the stats rotary is unreliable in the Uk only!!!!look at Australia where ppl use rotaries in trucks, wagons etc etc!!! We seriously lack good, unbaised and reliable tuners.. Speaking from experience in the UK u wud go to the engine builder to get ur engine built, if engine fails the first thing he does is "Sorry mate can\'t cover this blown engine" and then he will b so busy to find a way to put the blame on you.. It\'s like you are pig in the middle and told to go here and there...no professionalisim...I wish someone come out and say something unambiguous about warranting the engine, I have never dealt with Haywood Rotary but their claim abt warranty of the engine is very convincing... No disrespect to no tuner and builder in the UK,, but I seriously think v need reliable tuners in the UK to make rotary last otherwise rotaries are going down in numbers 20 of em have already been butchered....
Quote from: tinker-27;734637You use ti filler rods or just fuse it together , same as stainless or mild steel but it\'s normally thinner so harder to do . It also has to be clean like alloy . Hoping to have it running for the spring ? Im in Birmingham in my workshop you are more than welcome to pop in for a coffee and have a look .
Thanks for the invitation, will have to arrange it sometime soon. Are you in your shop on weekends? We are in Huddersfield so it is not too far away to drive down there. And permitting the clutch on my FD gets sorted we will come down in that.
Quote from: Mir;734670Hi guys, I agree with durability and blown engine comments above, but I would like to stress this point that rotary is not durable in the UK, as unfortunately we don\'t have tuners like Gabby Skern from port Rico and Alex of Kiwi Re from newzeland. If u luk at the stats rotary is unreliable in the Uk only!!!!look at Australia where ppl use rotaries in trucks, wagons etc etc!!! We seriously lack good, unbaised and reliable tuners.. Speaking from experience in the UK u wud go to the engine builder to get ur engine built, if engine fails the first thing he does is "Sorry mate can\'t cover this blown engine" and then he will b so busy to find a way to put the blame on you.. It\'s like you are pig in the middle and told to go here and there...no professionalisim...I wish someone come out and say something unambiguous about warranting the engine, I have never dealt with Haywood Rotary but their claim abt warranty of the engine is very convincing... No disrespect to no tuner and builder in the UK,, but I seriously think v need reliable tuners in the UK to make rotary last otherwise rotaries are going down in numbers 20 of em have already been butchered....
So you find the next best thing...the engine builder who knows the guys from Rico, and genuinely knows his stuff from experience with racing car builders
Yes I work on saturdays i will probably be there butchering some more fds !!!
Hey Tinker-27, can you source Cobra 8.8 diffs?
If so how much?
Hi I don\'t source them but I am working on a bolt in kit for a FD , the drive shafts are available of the shelf in the states , but the fitting kit is not great and very expensive , I have a diff and shafts here ready to make the kit , but trying to find time .
I am in the throws of ordering the Samberg kit. Getting a diff fro
The states is pricey so I thought I\'d ask.
You saying the Samberg 8.8 kit isn\'t great?
Quote from: Grub2000;804323I am in the throws of ordering the Samberg kit. Getting a diff fro
The states is pricey so I thought I\'d ask.
You saying the Samberg 8.8 kit isn\'t great?
Hi Mate
I am also in a process of buying 8.8 Diff. Justin Samberg\'s Diff cradle is great. I have only heard good things about it.
Who you buying the 8.8 diff from?
Cheers
Mir
Not in my opinion , where they mount it to is not strong enough , well depending on what you want from it but I would not use one on my car , the front end stuff is better , nice welding well put together but not keen on the rear set up . Look at the distance from diff mount to front mount ( where it will try to turn on) this is short , then look at the two tabs it goes to . The rear subframes are not strong at all or is the floor , it\'s thin to be light as the power frame takes the load on a rotary . Are you fitting it to a rotary or V8 ?
Listen to Craig he is the DON.
It will be v8 (sshhh don\'t tell anyone)
Obviously I would rather source a diff kit from the UK if I can. Would yours be one you will be shipping out or would I have to come to the garage to get it fitted?
Do you have an estimate price wise?
I am going the LS1 route and am buying gear that will support 500bhp.
The diff I am sourcing from the states (keep an eye on the no rotors forum), but again if I could get one from the UK it would be better. The postage is pretty hefty.
I don\'t have a price yet as it\'s not done , how much are the samberg kits these days ?
$650 before postage etc.
Is that just for the diff mounts , no shafts etc
Yep, just the mounting gear. He sources the shafts from Drive Shaft Shop on request.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll93/justinsamberg/DSC_0031.jpg
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=126.0
Do you have an ETA for your rig?
I know the samberg one needs some mounts welding to the chassis unless you have a 95 rex. Don\'t know if you are aware of this?
Not sure on eta but in the next month or so I hope , 95 on have extra brackets on the subframe not the chassis , I have all the parts there just need time !!! ( I will try to get on with it )
Bah, now do I wait or not :)
You reckon your setup will be able to keep stock exhaust routing? apparently the samberg one doesn\'t so you end up with reduced clearance.
(http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m468/tinker--27/b057b728.jpg)
It\'s on the bench !!
Haha, cool. I will postpone my Samberg order :)
Oh, and another thing. The Samberg kit requires a modified diff cover. Do you know if that\'s likely to be the case with yours?
is the v8 twin turbo alive yet,what an animal,
Quote from: Grub2000;804909Oh, and another thing. The Samberg kit requires a modified diff cover. Do you know if that\'s likely to be the case with yours?
Interested in the outcome of this thread. The stock rear cover mounting point clashes with the subframe so either part has to be modified. There is the option of fitting an aftermarket cover without bracket from a rock crawler or similar. Ours was machined and welded locally for sensible money.
Quote from: 4packet;804917Interested in the outcome of this thread. The stock rear cover mounting point clashes with the subframe so either part has to be modified. There is the option of fitting an aftermarket cover without bracket from a rock crawler or similar. Ours was machined and welded locally for sensible money.
Where did you get your diff/posi from?
Quote from: a.tapos;804910is the v8 twin turbo alive yet,what an animal,
yes it is, running 4psi (iirc) and kicking out more HP than most roataries in uk.:spank
his aim is 14psi and reckons he will crack 1,000 whp too. i cant wait.
but he has broken somethings on it at the rear end recently so is upgrading them first before upgrading power i think
I am making a complete new back plate with the top mounts incorporated , I\'m trying to make it strong enough to take as much as we can throw at them !! The subframe will also be strengthened alot
yes its been running for about two thousand miles , it made 722 bhp @wheels on 4 psi and 823 ft lb atb 1bar @3500 rmp then the spark was to weak as i was still on the NA spec plugs whigh are 55thou gap , we did go off the dyno screen at one point at 1250ftlb when we put in 20 psi by mistake, ive only been using spring presure on hte road till i get back to the dyno to get the 1 bar map sorted . To be honest its enough it will light the tyres at 80mph on the motorway and spin them till 140 !!!, its also very civil to drive normally of boost due to decent gearing you can drive round above trafic speed under 2000rpm off boost and its good on fuel at that as well . the first drag run i went to it snapped one of the unbreakable drive shafts as soon as it hit 3000 rpm in second so i have ordered a set from the states with 108mm cvs inner and outer , i thought the FD cv would break first but it was the shaft !! . im just fitting some feed rear arches and some yoko 315,30,18 ready for the spring i will post some more pics soon
Quote from: tinker-27;804930I am making a complete new back plate with the top mounts incorporated , I\'m trying to make it strong enough to take as much as we can throw at them !! The subframe will also be strengthened alot
Dude are you mr T you just love to get out the welder and sheet metal;)
Quote from: Grub2000;804919Where did you get your diff/posi from?
American ebay. Private seller had it as a spare for their Cobra. New/never used item still with the preserving oil in it. Cost $900, but she managed to source the all important inner CV\'s for $200 with low mileage. The CV\'s are possibly the hardest parts to procure. DSS can supply an uprated alternative, but think they are $800 for the pair from memory.
Any progress on the diff mount?
I think you should post a few more pics.
Maybe a new thread?
I am waiting on some bosses from the Cnc man but he\'s a bit slow at the moment , as soon as they are done I will get on
With it !!,
Was looking at V8 RX7 swaps on google and came upon this thread. I was wondering how much was a realistic budget to get one of these swaps done?
Tinker-27 - if someone supplied you with basic essentials of the FD with blown rotary engine or a rolling shell minus engine, LS engine and gearbox how much would you charge to carry out the conversion and what sort of timeframe would people expect to completion?
Thanks for any info. :Thumbs-up
Hi give me a bell and I can go through the options 01217530415 or tinker27@hotmail.co.uk cheers Craig
Thanks for the info. Craig - I\'ll be in contact if I end up going ahead with the project :Thumbs-up
interesting read and i agree more pics of the fabrication plz dude looks very well done
Quote from: a.tapos;804910is the v8 twin turbo alive yet,what an animal,
Little vid from last year Tinker doing what Tinker does best :driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk-1SiTsI1w&feature=youtube_gdata_player