I\'m sure its been covered, but i\'ve used the search button both on here and on google (getting mixed reports on there and the us/jap spec mine field is doing my nut!)
So as titled, what are the stock BHP, 0-60, torque figures and weight etc etc etc, for the UK spec Turbo II\'s?
I\'m still fighting over saving for an FD or spending not so much and purchasing an FC >.<
Cheers in advance for any help.
Ben
Approx figures for the UK coupe:
200BHP (some sources say 202), Torque I think was 190 ftlb, 0-60 6.2 Secs weight around 1260KG (vert is 6.5 secs to 60 and 1420KG)
Cheers mate, any idea if top speed! I mean I\'ve just got to be 100% sure that a fc is going to be faster than my GTI lol!
The FC Vert does about 144 flat out - wind resistance ;) - I expect the coupe is probably a little bit quicker - book figure is an optimistic 150mph (for stock power level)
Oh decisions decisions, thanks for your help prof!
Ben
remember you can get a TII to 300bhp with a new intercooler, chipped ecu, zorst and wastegate spring or boost controller
But, and I\'d like honest opinions. If you could afford to run the fc or the fd? Without a biased fc opinion which would you buy? Honestly?
Well - I like open top motoring - so as the FC offers the only choice I can take - my mind is easy to make up.
Having driven both cars of similar power (well before Aceman pushed the boat out a bit more), I can say both cars have a similar feel, the FD has the edge on acceleration, but in terms of day to day road manners - the FC is an excellent car. You\'re not going to be dissapointed either way if you get a well sorted car.
I\'m with the prof on the open top driving so it\'s an FC for me too.
You should also consider your "style" of driving - do you want to stand out and attract attention (which means rarely being able to floor it or you WILL get stopped by plod) or do you prefer the wolf in sheep\'s clothing approach (keep a low profile - so no wheelspins or loud noise - but just drive everywhere really quickly!).
All of them will break the typical speed limit in under 2.5 seconds - how much attention do you want to draw while doing so?
Ask yourself if you are buying it for yourself, or for what others will think of you?
The FC is a classic sports coupe shape (think Lotus (but not Elise!), DeLorean, FH E-Type) whereas the FD is a "look at me! look at me!" show-off (think Porsche, Ferrari, Lotus Elise).
Real men drive sports cars. Posers drive show-off motors. ;)
For driving experience I\'d vote fd. They just feel like they\'ve been made to handle and go fast. They literally feel like they\'re on rails. Saying that, on paper the fc is pretty much the same car. It\'s got a nice twinscroll turbo which spools quickly and no problematic rats nest. If you give it breathing mods and chipped ecu they\'re reasonable on fuel. Had 30mpg on mine on a few occasions.
What\'s the car for? Daily I\'d go fc, track I\'d go fd. If there was a budget involved I\'d go fc. There have been a few clean big power fc\'s with rebuilds for sale for around 4-6k. You\'d struggle to find similar spec fd\'s for a few grand more!!!
Quote from: dthebuk;733780remember you can get a TII to 300bhp with a new intercooler, chipped ecu, zorst and wastegate spring or boost controller
Imagine that in the Westfield. It would might be fast then
If money were no problem I\'d have both! I love my FC to bits and for the money I can\'t find anything else that\'d keep me as entertained. I\'ve never driven an FD but have been a passenger and they do seem to have a very similar feel from the passenger seat.
Its such a difficult decision to make! It will be my daily driver, but I\'m planning learning drifting @ pod on the weekends, I think I\'d prefer an fd but the fc is as mentioned a bit cheaper and I used to have a egi fc and never really got to experience the full turbo II experience.
I\'m also thinking that with the drifting plans and the daily driver in mind the more reliable 13b turbo might be a better option than the rew?
So hard to decide, thanks for the advice... Any more views and opinions most welcome.
Ben
FC all the way mate. Welded diff lock spacers and you\'re done!!
For daily driving too?
yea. If its going to be a daily make sure you get adjustable dampers. stiff shocks are about 10 times more annoying than a welder
This is going to be an internal fight with myself right untill I actually get my cash out. My problem is I always wanted an fd, couldn\'t afford one so get an fc. Then you kind of fall for them don\'t you. So tough to decide, thanks so much for the help!
Odd really, that if you post in the 2nd gen section wondering whether to buy an FC or an FD you get an overwhelming repsonse in favour of the FC :rollin Post the same question in the 3rd gen section, you may just find you get a different response :Hammer
With that said, I\'d argue that no rotary model should be bought with a view to running on a really tight budget, none of them are cheap to run and maintain, especially if you want the expense of prepping and running in drift spec. Just a thought :Thumbs-up
Quote from: Nik da Greek;734000Post the same question in the 3rd gen section, you may just find you get a different response :Hammer
The Gen 1 2 3 and 4 (RX-8) are all very different animals to drive with very different characteristics,
Drive the Gen 1 and 2 and in the Gen 2 you will feel a vague similarity just as you will across from the Gen 3 to the Gen 4 which tells you where the car was derived from, but thats it :)
As Nik says, reality is none of them are cheap to run and maintain.
If we then move onto drift/ race cars, then if built for out and out racing effectivly the above can become irrelivent as then your only looking at a prefered RX body shape, because you can end up with the same powerplant under the hood and make each handle about the same with the right amount of money :driving.
Again thanks for the comments guys! I won\'t be running it on such a tight budget, it\'s just saving I\'m not good at. All comments taken on board though thanks guys, I\'m not going to be going for an out and our track car. Which ever Rex I finally buy will be primarily a daily driver.
Thanks again, everyone has been very helpful and i hope to stick around!
Ben
fc is the way to go, be different,
Yeah I think your right matey, I\'m gonna wait and hopefully A nice fc with a rebuild will turn up!
Again thanks to everyone
Ben
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-MAZDA-RX7-TURBO-BLACK-/180605940415?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a0cf3f2bf#ht_2789wt_932
nuff said
What a shame - another classic hacked about and sent down the toilet.
Quote from: no_boingers;736193What a shame - another classic hacked about and sent down the toilet.
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People have different viewpoints I guess - but the mods on the car are not over the top.
Quote from: Skifledanabit;736180http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-MAZDA-RX7-TURBO-BLACK-/180605940415?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a0cf3f2bf#ht_2789wt_932
nuff said
The owner of that car is really tiny, he looks about three feet tall in the photos :D
Quote from: Prof;736195People have different viewpoints I guess
:)
In 10 years time when these cars are true classics, people will be crying out for original un-b\'stardised examples and there won\'t be any left. They\'ll just disappear from our roads completely :( Me sad now.
Quote from: no_boingers;736426:)
In 10 years time when these cars are true classics, people will be crying out for original un-b\'stardised examples and there won\'t be any left. They\'ll just disappear from our roads completely :( Me sad now.
yet it is the hacked about and b\'sterdised ones that get the most care and attention off their owners because they dont want to see their hard work and cash go to the scrapheap due to rot.
These cars do not fair well in this country, simple fact, even with the one on the ad i linked to, it had one elderly male owner and his daughter before our guy bought it, and even that had rot.
to find an unmolested, clean and solid example with no rot, you need to go abroad or be very very very lucky, classic or not, and it will only be much worse in 10 years time.
You\'re quite clearly too young to remember the "joys" of owning a British Leyland car - waffer-thin metal that would rust at the merest sight of a drop of rain. Lucky we don\'t get much of that in this country ;)
Bodywork can be restored relatively easily but finding all the emission junk that has been ripped out and binned by some careful previous owner will be impossible.
so... my point proven...? how many british leyland cars are there around now? Not many, some minis, a few Rover SD1\'s austins etc... and seeing as the tuning/modding scene isnt that big with some of them, (excluding the minis and maybe some Metros), they wouldn\'t be too common, simply because most people dont/didnt bother with them and left them to a scrappy.
Yeah ok, some owners clubs and fans restored them, but not as many as there were, also, the RX7 is a sports coupe, released during the 80\'s oil crisis... hence why they made the EGi version, not many people would have bought them, making it a losing battle compared to how many BL cars were sold over the years until their demise
Quote from: no_boingers;736426:)
In 10 years time when these cars are true classics, people will be crying out for original un-b\'stardised examples and there won\'t be any left. They\'ll just disappear from our roads completely :( Me sad now.
I see your point now - although I am a believer in making mods to a car to make it more reliable / usable and tweaking those things I didn\'t like first time around.
The mods on this car are mostly under the skin, and by and large the interior still looks stock, which I think is a good thing. But you are right so few examples of these cars are left at all. Let\'s hope this is bought by someone who will cherish it, and not scrapped.
Perhaps I just need to get me a shed and take all that emission stuff off people\'s hands?
Whenever I make mods to a car I always keep all the old bits just in case a future owner wants to put them back.
Don\'t bin it: box it up and pass it on with the car ;)
Quote from: Skifledanabit;736557not many people would have bought them, making it a losing battle compared to how many BL cars were sold over the years until their demise
That\'s even more reason to
not mod the few RX\'s that are currently remaining in original spec - leave something for the classic car restorers! People are really struggling to find original spec Golf GTis (and we know how many of those were made!) - they\'ve all been played about with so there are no genuine cars left already.
Quote from: no_boingers;736593Perhaps I just need to get me a shed and take all that emission stuff off people\'s hands?
Whenever I make mods to a car I always keep all the old bits just in case a future owner wants to put them back.
Don\'t bin it: box it up and pass it on with the car ;)
I\'ve kept a lot of mine, but I don\'t intend to get rid of the car - so much of it is spider hotel now :Laugh
:rollin Spiders good... Mice bad.
Quote from: no_boingers;736716:rollin Spiders good... Mice bad.
The old air box is just the right sort of size for a mouse nest too !:rollin