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Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Dan Norton on December 15, 2010, 05:23:15 PM
Listen at the noise!!!!!!!!!!! :3gears-rh:3gears-rh:3gears-rh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd-AnG3LYUg&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd-AnG3LYUg&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Dan Norton on December 16, 2010, 09:47:14 AM
We\'re on a rotary forum, and thats the fastest ever fd, probably ultimate fd, round Tskuba and no-ones even commented!:xconfused
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: PGiljevic on December 16, 2010, 10:17:20 AM
Imagine how much faster it would go with a LS1 conversion :Tongue1
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Nik da Greek on December 16, 2010, 10:51:46 AM
Sorry, Dan :o. It\'d already been posted on FDUK. Errrrrm...I liked it better when it was raw, unpainted carbon? :D
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Steve-A on December 16, 2010, 10:58:01 AM
Thats generally awesome!

It\'s kinda odd to watch, it reminds me of a computer game its that quick and the driver seems so calm, very little sawing at the wheel etc.

Amazing!
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: steve garbutt on December 16, 2010, 10:58:54 AM
Loving that :D
I never posted as there were some fantastic links that i followed once i watched it, so i then got distracted and forgot about the thread haha
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Dan Norton on December 16, 2010, 11:09:01 AM
Thats better.....normal service ressumed! :D
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Dan Norton on December 16, 2010, 11:10:10 AM
Quote from: Nik da Greek;732910Sorry, Dan :o. It\'d already been posted on FDUK. Errrrrm...I liked it better when it was raw, unpainted carbon? :D

Actually i agree with you :D......i guess the sponsors pay for the tyres!
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: turbo boy on December 16, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
Awsome stuff. What is the track record for this course?
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 16, 2010, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: RICE RACING;732904Imagine how much faster it would go with a LS1 conversion :Tongue1

LOL :wave doubt it given they are able to get better weight distribution with the Rotary mount it lower and further back,step on the gas quicker not worry about to much low down power breaking traction, use a lighter gearbox then a V8 would require, etc etc

Gotta luv this vid :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXjzLaVvhjU
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: jackaleks on December 16, 2010, 06:24:02 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;732953Gotta luv this vid :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXjzLaVvhjU

lmao

"he has a mullet... drinks a lot of beer... and loves a biffo at the pub"
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Will66 on December 16, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
It\'s quick innit!
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Post by: antnicuk on December 16, 2010, 07:34:37 PM
that is a proper weapon,  looks nice too,  i wonder what the engine spec is.  It looks like its been moved quite far back as well.
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Panjy on December 16, 2010, 08:31:37 PM
Thats awesome :cool
 
The fact that its mostly carbon, has a sequential box & has a tubular chassis sort of says its a pretty different car than even the most hardcore track beasts on here - but who cares, that genuinely is stupidly quick :D
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Nik da Greek on December 17, 2010, 12:36:23 AM
Quote from: turbo boy;732949Awsome stuff. What is the track record for this course?
51.something held by the HKS Cyber Evo. For several years now
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Dan Norton on December 17, 2010, 12:54:30 AM
Revolution FD is fastest RWD car round there though.
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: PGiljevic on December 17, 2010, 05:03:01 AM
Supercharged V8 in that body = WIN ........ easy 49\'s :3gears-lh:rollin

On a serious note, nice double mis shifts by the driver! *cant co-ordinate lifting of throttle and changing gear on up change on back straight* it looks very gutless in top speed too? Not over 210kph? at a guess.

Spec\'s for that motor are 550PS ~ 1.4kg T04Z bridge ported ~950kg weight.

With a real 700bhp 13B Turbo it would be fast as
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: PGiljevic on December 17, 2010, 05:08:00 AM
Those jap 13B\'s as used in time attack are massively down in power to the 4 bangers (200+bhp is a minimum) they need to lift their game :bandit
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Panjy on December 17, 2010, 08:36:22 AM
Is a tractable / useable 700bhp possible from a 13B?
 
I know you\'re an experienced water injection man so would probably run higher boost than many on here would dare :)
 
I agree, when you look at the power of some of the top cars, usually the evo / impreza boys, the fd\'s are a fair way down power wise & hence will always struggle to compete. Time to raise the bar.
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Mattie on December 17, 2010, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: Nik da Greek;73301051.something held by the HKS Cyber Evo. For several years now

I think the HKS CT230R record is 53.589sec which is the record for semi-slick track tyres. The Revolution FD is very close with 53.6 and can probably go faster.

All time lap record is 51.785 which was Keiichi Tsuchiya in his GT500 NSX on slicks.

Kind of put into perspective Revolution\'s achievement.

Put on some slicks I say and go for the all out record :)
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: BlitzBoy on December 17, 2010, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: RICE RACING;733022Those jap 13B\'s as used in time attack are massively down in power to the 4 bangers (200+bhp is a minimum) they need to lift their game :bandit

agreed they are running a lot less power then their foes in the piston engines.
The quick lap time they have got is down to the low weight , weight distribution, power delivery,suspension setup,low centre of gravity of the engine,chassis setup

There was tuned GTR R35 with 800-900 bhp at the time of this record on track, couldnt get its power down despite being 4WD kept spinning up its wheels and breaking traction and was in the 58s I believe
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Nik da Greek on December 17, 2010, 11:35:48 AM
Quote from: Mattie;733038I think the HKS CT230R record is 53.589sec which is the record for semi-slick track tyres. The Revolution FD is very close with 53.6 and can probably go faster.

All time lap record is 51.785 which was Keiichi Tsuchiya in his GT500 NSX on slicks.

Kind of put into perspective Revolution\'s achievement.

Put on some slicks I say and go for the all out record :)
Yeah, think you\'re right now I think about it :o. It was late when I posted that. Hey, at least I got the 51-point-something right :rollin
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: turbo boy on December 17, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
Didn`t that evo have a carbon body tho? Can`t really be classed as a road car when its whole body shell is made out of the black stuff.
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: Mattie on December 17, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
Quote from: turbo boy;733071Didn`t that evo have a carbon body tho? Can`t really be classed as a road car when its whole body shell is made out of the black stuff.

Yeah, it was pretty hardcore, but have you seen the Revolution FD? It\'s mostly carbon, tubular front and rear chassis, custom rear suspension etc, etc....

If anything it\'s more extreme than the HKS CT230 and effectively a full race car.
Title: Revolution FD\'s 53.6 Lap on video!
Post by: PGiljevic on December 18, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Panjy;733029Is a tractable / useable 700bhp possible from a 13B?
 
I know you\'re an experienced water injection man so would probably run higher boost than many on here would dare :)
 
I agree, when you look at the power of some of the top cars, usually the evo / impreza boys, the fd\'s are a fair way down power wise & hence will always struggle to compete. Time to raise the bar.

Absolutely it is, I have shown that for years and all on proper petrol you and I get when we fill up at your local service station.

The new generation of internet experts and kiddies here are trying rubbish Ethanol blends but they will ALL FAIL and learn the hard way that non of this rubbish is acceptable for 13B\'s and 650bhp+ output.

Water Injection is the only way to go if you want power and any type of normal mans measure of durability. The JAP\'s have not been able to work this out since 1983 when they gave up on the bridge ported twin turbo Group C motors for prototype racing (max limit was 500bhp) and they shipped them all off the Racing Beat for land speed record attempts and the factory went NA and PP and 3 and more rotors.

Rotaries do not last in small capacities at high bhp settings without copious levels of cooling of the apex seals and abhorrent levels of OIL mixed in to lube up the apex seals, one of the only way this can be solved on Gasoline (any octane) is with water injection.

Even locally your guru Dragon, his FD was water injected.
Track specific Wifbitz was water injected too.