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Title: Friday debate!
Post by: jetpilot on November 05, 2010, 01:38:21 PM
And the topic!

Was Harriet Harmons comment (former equalities minster by the way) about Danny Alexander, branding him a "ginger rodent" any worse than racial abuse?
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: Will66 on November 05, 2010, 01:49:20 PM
It was a very daft comment for a politician. When political discussions are reduced to personal comment about a man\'s appearance then you\'re probably on the wrong side of the argument.  In terms of saying it was worse than racial abuse, I think it is as bad as racial abuse, singling him out due to his appearance is as reprehensible as singling him out for being racially different.
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: jetpilot on November 05, 2010, 02:29:17 PM
Sorry buddy, perhaps worded badly but i did say, any worse not worse than!
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: Nik da Greek on November 05, 2010, 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: Will66;725144It was a very daft comment for a politician. When political discussions are reduced to personal comment about a man\'s appearance then you\'re probably on the wrong side of the argument.  In terms of saying it was worse than racial abuse, I think it is as bad as racial abuse, singling him out due to his appearance is as reprehensible as singling him out for being racially different.

This is a very rational, well balanced argument that ignores one simple fact....

....he IS a ginger :rollin
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 05, 2010, 03:14:01 PM
hehe yes he is Ginger, but its still wrong what she said, I reckon he should sue the slag hahaha
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: Nik da Greek on November 05, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Rodent is a particularly ironic insult for Harman to use since she bears a startling resemblance to a Coypu herself :Giggle

It\'s a strange quirk of our society that gingas are apparently the only minority left it\'s OK to discriminate against :confused:
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 05, 2010, 03:39:51 PM
Can we substitute Guy Fawkes on the Bonfire tonight and stick Harriet Harmen instead, I soooooo detest the slapper
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: Will66 on November 05, 2010, 07:10:14 PM
Quote from: jetpilot;725150Sorry buddy, perhaps worded badly but i did say, any worse not worse than!

I get you.

Ginger Bashing should not be happening in the corridors of power.  If he was black, asian or any other racial demographic and she\'d have made a racial slur then we\'d be reading her resignation statement.
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: Nik da Greek on November 05, 2010, 07:15:13 PM
Quote from: Will66;725197I get you.

Ginger Bashing should not be happening in the corridors of power.  If he was black, asian or any other racial demographic and she\'d have made a racial slur then we\'d be reading her resignation statement.
Naive in the extreme, Big Willy :Nono!. Long gone are the days when politicians were moral enough and had a strong enough sense of responsibilty to actually resign when they commit epic gaffes :mad:. Now they simply "move sideways" into another department/office, leaving a trail of slime behind them
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: jetpilot on November 05, 2010, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: Will66;725197I get you.

Ginger Bashing should not be happening in the corridors of power.  If he was black, asian or any other racial demographic and she\'d have made a racial slur then we\'d be reading her resignation statement.

I guess kind of my point in fairness! Makes me think its one rule for them etc
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: Will66 on November 05, 2010, 10:25:34 PM
I think Harmann should be forced out for being personal about another politician for political ends.  Plus I think she\'s just a dreadful example.
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: jetpilot on November 06, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
Just typical labour in my eyes, im surprised anyone wants them running the country with playground comments like that, it seems the Scots are the biggest supporters but guess a few of them will be offended now as they are the original braveheart red heds (no offence meant) known for their flame coloured locks!
Title: Friday debate!
Post by: Will66 on November 06, 2010, 06:56:48 PM
It was a cheap comment designed to garner column inches.  Typical New Labour spin over substance.