I said I would post up any offers that have come through to me since posting up that I might consider moving TMX on.
As a one owner, genuine miles, with history, (somewhat unique, these days dare I say) 1st Generation RX7.
I have had interest from two individual parties.
One of whom has made 2 offers on the above basis and is now at £1400
subject to full inspection.
Don.
As already stated, I have not decided one way or the another yet, and I am not ashamed to say that this decision will be decided on the strength of those offers.
THIS IS THE CAR ON OFFER
ONE OWNER
53K MILES FROM NEW
ALL MOTS
EXCELLENT COND
NO ROT
ALWAYS GARAGED
MOT AND TAX (drive away)
ONLY MOD IS A STAINLESS EXHAUST
GOLD PLATED SERVICE BY A ROLLS ROYCE TRAINED MECHANIC
I thought eBay was the website for auctions, not MRC
Yeah, very ethical. From what I understand you bought the car for £850 earlier this month, gloated about what a steal it was, drove it home....and errrr have done nothing else to it at all, yet now it\'s worth offers upward from £1400? Well worth the membership fee then :rolleyes:
Don,
I don\'t really understand why you\'re posting this on here...
If your determined to solicit bids for this car, stick it on ebay. This is a forum for genuine enthusiasts, not people trying to line their pockets.
And what happened to...
Quote from: don wyatt;723597Im not a money grabbing, quick profit merchant, use and abuse people type of person. ]
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Quote from: Nik da Greek;724069Yeah, very ethical. From what I understand you bought the car for £850 earlier this month, gloated about what a steal it was, drove it home....and errrr have done nothing else to it at all, yet now it\'s worth offers upward from £1400? Well worth the membership fee then :rolleyes:
as far as I\'m aware, he hasn\'t even taken posssession of it yet. Just trying to trade it and make some money out of us.
This thread should be locked.
Oh dear me,
Im not sure Ian why you persist with this line,
Didnt you have the same attitude to another chap who in the interest not just of himself, but in the interests of everyone who looks on here, offered parts (namely moonroof sunroofs), regardless of his price ? As I understand it he too came under attack, am I right ? I thnk so.
Following intervention by Dave Nock I believe some back tracking took place.
Look, you need to understand something chaps, this is a PUBLIC FORUM, its not your privately owned gentlemen\'s club. You click, and pay if you want to, then you are FREE to join in. You dont own it, we all do.
There are rules of play, as was pointed out last time round when the dummies came out over the moonroofs, I have not stepped over that mark, I would urge you not to either. Lets keep it decent, and that goes for the other comments prior to this one.
If you have no interest in this topic, dont post silly jibes.
I have not broken any rules, and I am not conducting an Auction here, I have merely expressed that I may or may not sell the car, depending on the outcome. Therefore if this thread is closed it will only prove one thing.
You have been very helpful to me, and so have others in helping me to understand this car, and how best to go about looking after it, should I take that route. Please move on and stop acting like spoilt children.
I clearly stated earlier that I would post up details of any offers, and that is exactly what, if you do not like this, you should not comment, and frankly if you do not like it, then I am sorry for your attitudes.
I am a decent bloke, Ian & others, dont treat me like some third rate money grabbing del boy. I do not need £2000 or 3000 or 10,000, this is not about the money.
I have expressed and hopefully proved my honesty and decency to some on here, one of which I thought was you Ian, so this further backtracking seems sad, but possibly typical. I hope not.
We said earlier and I am sure if I could be bothered I could quote you agreed to move on, please dont keep being negative. Thank you Ian.
Don.
Quote from: don wyatt;724077Oh dear me,
Im not sure Ian why you persist with this line,
Didnt you have the same attitude to another chap who in the interest not just of himself, but in the interests of everyone who looks on here, offered parts (namely moonroof sunroofs), regardless of his price ? As I understand it he too came under attack, am I right ? I thnk so.
Following intervention by Dave Nock I believe some back tracking took place.
Look, you need to understand something chaps, this is a PUBLIC FORUM, its not your privately owned gentlemen\'s club. You click, and pay if you want to, then you are FREE to join in. You dont own it, we all do.
There are rules of play, as was pointed out last time round when the dummies came out over the moonroofs, I have not stepped over that mark, I would urge you not to either. Lets keep it decent, and that goes for the other comments prior to this one.
If you have no interest in this topic, dont post silly jibes.
I have not broken any rules, and I am not conducting an Auction here, I have merely expressed that I may or may not sell the car, depending on the outcome. Therefore if this thread is closed it will only prove one thing.
You have been very helpful to me, and so have others in helping me to understand this car, and how best to go about looking after it, should I take that route. Please move on and stop acting like spoilt children.
I clearly stated earlier that I would post up details of any offers, and that is exactly what, if you do not like this, you should not comment, and frankly if you do not like it, then I am sorry for your attitudes.
I am a decent bloke, Ian & others, dont treat me like some third rate money grabbing del boy. I do not need £2000 or 3000 or 10,000, this is not about the money.
I have expressed and hopefully proved my honesty and decency to some on here, one of which I thought was you Ian, so this further backtracking seems sad, but possibly typical. I hope not.
We said earlier and I am sure if I could be bothered I could quote you agreed to move on, please dont keep being negative. Thank you Ian.
Don.
Persist with this line?? My 2nd post on the subject??
The sunroof issue was completely different situation. Yes, I had views on it but the seller hadn\'t masqueraded around the forum for a couple of weeks before hand pretending to have a genuine enthusiasm for the cars as you appear to have done.
Everyone on here has gone out of their way to help you and you repay that by throwing it back in their faces. I note you didn\'t object to my \'attitude\' when I was answering your pm\'s and sending you buyers guides.
Other members will have their own views and may or may not make these known but I have to say, after you took exception to being labelled disingenuous, you have done little to change that perception.
Rather than attacking me, I suggest you examine your own conduct on this forum.
Why oh Why Ian,
I have already thanked you for your help and advice, and PMs with links etc.
What would you like me to do now ?
Everyone on here has been helpful, and I take offence at your accusations that I am a masquerade.
DO YOU NOT LISTEN, I HAVE NOT SAID THAT I AM DEFINITELY SELLING, Therefore I have everyone right to make friends and gain some knowledge.
ARE YOU THE FORUM POLICE IAN, or JUST A BULLY ?
Are you a MODERATOR ? NO !
Stop surmising and trying to label me, others on here will have already seen right through this.
What if I keep the car, Ian, and attend the MRC outings and shows, and become a valuable resource to others one day, will you treat me like something you just trod in then ? I hope not.
You are not gaining any friends Ian , but you are likely to lose some if you persist in accusing and labelling me. Its your choice.
Don.
I will not comment further on this, so please stop sabotaging my thread, if you wish to continue, start your own thread, maybe you could call "PERSECUTING DON"
Please keep this civil guys MRC is not a auction site as stated but by the same token there are numerous cases of guys offering motors subject to offers so president has been set there. Don by the same token MRC is not a vehicle for profit making unless your a paying trader so there\'s no clear cut rights and wrongs here. I\'m working at the moment so don\'t have the time to go through all of Dons posting history to see if he trades regularly so will leave this to run until i\'ve looked over his history. In the mean time please try to keep the dummies in the pram guy\'s.
No problem Kevin,
I\'ve nothing to add.
Thanks Kevin, Nice to know that you are keeping an eye open.
I assure you I am no trader, and I am happy to quote the forum rule No;2, which was rightly quoted by Clive, during the Moonroofs thread, which some of you may recall.
2. Online Behaviour
The primary change will be one of attitude – with respect for other club users now becoming the number 1 criteria for being part of MRC. The forum is not to be a platform to disparage others, make accusations or insinuations relating to the character or conduct of others. MRC will be more ready to pro-actively manage the content of posts seen as defamatory or aimed at promoting senseless argument amongst individuals or groups. These rules apply to everyone
what a lot of hoo ha, but its great publicity. £1500 offer. same party. Thank you very much to *****.
Don.
Hardly fair to say I intervened on the Moon Roof Don. I\'m in no position to intervene in anything to do with the club. I merely pointed out that, to my mind, Ian had gone in too hard over the roof pricing business. I thought then and still do think that what a seller asks is up to him. I\'m glad to say Ian did some gracious stuff and the whole matter has since been forgotten.
I\'m not too hung up over your buying and selling TMX immediately Don, which is why I tried to \'ease\' the tension over your \'selling post\', but to be honest I\'ve thought several times since that I could have been wrong about my words, which I never did over the M/Roof topic.
This post we\'re on with now really made me concerned. I\'m sorry but I think you should have kept such an inflamatory subject under wraps from hereon in. I winced inside when I read your post this morning.
So my present thoughts are back to \'What does this Guy want from us?\'....
Well Dave, Thats a much more decent and grown up response to some Ive had on this thread, so thank you.
I understand your concern, and also the Moderators concern, (he may think Im a trader :eek:) but im not. Anyway Dave, the thing is mate, Im in two Blaady minds what to do with this car. To be totally honest and truthful to you, I wish I had never seen it now :o
Its not about the money Dave, 100% on my childrens lives, its not. (I hate saying that but I want to convince you). Its just like I said. I am thinking at the moment about two vehicles, one is this RX7, the other is another TVR, which is at the mo, sounding more appealing. So i guess it is a bit about the money. If I were to buy TMX, and make a profit, wheres the harm ? I may then put this towards the TVR ?
If I dont sell TMX and keep it, I would have been quite happy to learn more about this weird engine, and why it has such a following. To be fair Dave, Im losing the will to live on this one.
I think I should not have joined in here, as I have been slated for simply being honest, and that hurts. I find it unfair, I find it ignorant and I find it childish.
I do however appreciate that you chaps dont know me, but if I was a crook as I have been made out to be, would I give out my phone number ?, Would I give out an invitation to join me at my business premises for free coffee and meets, of course not.
That is why I find the bandwagon that Ian has joined a bitter taste. Ive said before and I will say this again, I am a genuine and generous person.
I am considering simply buying this car and sticking it on ebay, Maybe someone else can appreciate it then, or even buying it and letting it fall apart, and that would be sad wouldnt it.
Either way Im fed up with what has been said on here, and how Ive been judged, just like the guy with the sunroofs. My own fault or not, its unfair im afraid to say. still at least the MRC has benefited from my membership fee.
Don.
Oh, Dave, just to answer your last paragraph mate ?
All I wanted was a little respect mate, from what I thought was a grown up place ? Not much to ask is it ?
Don.
I dont think I will pursue this any further, I will not make any further mention of selling the car through the Forum, I will not offer or sell to any forum members.
Should I decide to sell the car, it will go on ebay, and if anyone wants it they can buy it through those channels. thats probably best. My apologies to anyone who has been offended by my honesty, we are not all rougues and crooks, but you have obviously seen a few on here I guess.
The car is no longer for sale.
End of.
Don
i have read this thread and to be honest im not surprised at the response.
everyone that uses this forum are rotary enthusiasts and all had a smile on there face at the thought of a really nice 1st gen surfacing and at the thought of a genuine owner comming along to drive and enjoy it. you cant honestly expect people to welcome you with open arms whilst you are just using the car to turn a nice profit and then add in your brashness in dealing with peoples reactions to you, what do you honestly expect!!
on that note the car is yours to do with as you please and putting it on ebay is the smartest thing you could of done than try to push it on here
glwts
Quote from: cyman;724170i have read this thread and to be honest im not surprised at the response.
everyone that uses this forum are rotary enthusiasts and all had a smile on there face at the thought of a really nice 1st gen surfacing and at the thought of a genuine owner comming along to drive and enjoy it. you cant honestly expect people to welcome you with open arms whilst you are just using the car to turn a nice profit and then add in your brashness in dealing with peoples reactions to you, what do you honestly expect!!
on that note the car is yours to do with as you please and putting it on ebay is the smartest thing you could of done than try to push it on here
glwts
Rotary Enthusiasts? yes of course you all are, I respect this, never questioned it, never would !
Yes, I should honestly expect a welcome with open arms, why shouldnt anyone ?
But oh, how petty are the changes in some peoples attitude when they realise that the person they welcomed may turn a profit on a beloved RX7, You tell me, is that a decent way to behave, kind of false if you ask me, and reeks of jealousy.
HERES A TEST FOR YOU ALL, (Like it or not),
Will anyone on this Forum stand up and be counted by recognising that a welcome handshake to a new member, (who incidentally put his hand in his pocket to pay his membership dues) which is then retracted, simply because that new member dare mention he might sell his new toy, and heaven forbid make a profit, you tell me, is that a real welcome of a false one.
Because I tell you what folks, if this Forums is so shallow that no one can agree with me, then its not a place I wish to belong to.
So, stand up and be counted .
I\'ll be counted, then. I generally offer a welcome to all new members if I can, though I must have missed your post when you joined, and that welcome is sincere because I feel that anyone joining a car club must be a genuine enthusiast for the marque and therefore to be encouraged, and because rules of simple politeness dictate a friendly reception.
If, however, that person then started waxing lyrical about how much fun they get out of drinking a quarter of scotch and then driving home from the golf course, or how they get off on child pornography, or how they feel the only way to treat their wife is to beat her twice a day whether she needs it or not, I would pretty quickly revise my opinion of them sharply downwards. Neither would I feel this redolent of any insincerity on my behalf, because the person in question has to take responsibilty for their own behaviour being socially reprehensible.
In the rather less extreme case of someone trying to get a mark up of almost 100% on a car that isn\'t even in their posession, then at the least I would be thinking "well, that\'a a plsstake". If the car had been bought, had all the faults rectified and it made condition A-one then this would seem all fine and dandy and fair reward for effort involved. However, expecting to recieve top dollar on a car having posted only a day before about how cheap it is and how all you\'ve done is drag it out from under its previous owner seems extremely mercenary and in very poor taste.
As to whether this is a place you wish to belong to or not, well frankly who gives a 4x? Do what you like. I expect you\'ve alienated a significant enough percentage of your fellow 1st gen owners that your stay here is now a matter of complete indifference to most. In short, don\'t act like a mercenary, then shout in people\'s faces when they criticise you for your unlikeable behaviour, and then expect anyone to care if you live, die or disappear
I would just like to make it plain that this is a purely personal viewpoint and in no way intended to represent any other person, or indeed the club itself. You should probably try to be aware of the distinction between people making a purely personal and legitimate value judgement and an attitude pertaining to the club as an entity
You just dont see it do you Don, its nothing to do with "our beloved cars" its about biting the hand that feeds.
I hope you are a man of your word and you bugger off as fast as you came cos Ive certainly had enough of you.
Keith...
Sorry mods.
hmmm the only thing i wonder is why do you feel the need for everyone on the forum to approve of what you are doing and why do you take offence when people dont.
and the way you have been trying to sell and basicly try to auction your car through the forum isnt exactley someone thinking of maybe selling it is blatently someone out to make a profit out of the very thing this forum is set up for people to enthuse about
maybe you can find a self help forum who can aplaud you for being such a swell guy and making a profit so easily on the car you just bought then maybe you can stop trying to get justification for your actions here
Im not gonna get into the back ground of this (although though I have read both the threads mentioned above). I just don\'t get why you haven\'t put it on Ebay with a reserve of X amount and said if it makes it it can go, if not im gonna stay on here and pick your brains guys.
Just my 2p worth Don.
What a hostile place this has turned out to be.
False welcomes mean little.
No wonder the rules were beefed up by the mods with you lot running the forums.
Good old fashioned car clubs were never like this, maybe its because you met face to face in the pub at a noggin and natter, and rsoles felt out of place.
It is a shame really as in the 4 years I\'ve been on here I don\'t think I have seen anyone thats been made to feel unwelcome. Infact most people say this club/forum is better than most other ones they are or have been involved with.
Quote from: TiddlesRX7;724242It is a shame really as in the 4 years I\'ve been on here I don\'t think I have seen anyone thats been made to feel unwelcome. Infact most people say this club/forum is better than most other ones they are or have been involved with.
Well, you know whats coming Tiddles, they will tell you all about the welcome I received, which I have to tell you was nice, its how they turned when they realised I might sell my purchase, here on the forum. (SHOCK HORROR)
The mood changed you might say, now I am being advised to bugger off, by the very same people.
I have to say though, that I have had some nice PMs, so its not all bad. :D
Thanks for your input.
Don.
I think its more the way you have gone about it TBH. In every walk of life people will have disagreements and I can see this argument from both sides. At the end of the day it is (or soon will be) your car to do with as you please. Personally I think if you hadn\'t posted that you\'d bought the car for a steal of a price I don\'t think it would have blown up like this. Which ever way you go with TMX I hope she get the little bit of TLC she needs to bring her back to her best.
Fair comment mate, thanks for the unbiased view.
Don.
End Of;
TMX Is Going On Ebay. End next wk. :Hammer.
Starting at £850.00, if it sells it sells, I am past caring. :god
Sorry Don but I\'ve got to ask where did the TVR project suddenly come from or have I previously missed this comment?
Paul
lol Paul, you havnt missed anything about TVRs mate.
I had a 3501 Wedge some years ago, and fancied another one, (as you do) (or as you dont, depending if you like plastic cars).
Saw one recently and though Mmm. But then I also like the look of a moggy Van I have in mind.
Dont ask mate.
Don.
Trouble with me is, I need a row of garages mate to house all my fantasies.
QuoteTrouble with me is, I need a row of garages mate to house all my fantasies.
Now your just getting kinky
COVER BLOWN !! :Ladys-man