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Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: Koose on August 20, 2010, 05:55:06 PM
Hi Folks

Ibought this turbo 2,its sat for at least 5 years.

One of the issues is the headlights work, but dont pop up, one moved an inch up and then froze and wont go up or down now.

I cant see any fuses for lights let alone light motors.

Also, the battery seems to drain over a few hrs, now ive noticed that even with the key out of the ignition, something that i cant decipher, but is coming from around the pass side pop up motor, is making a clicking  whirring noise. So im guessing this is draining the battery.

What to do:3Confused

mark
Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: Prof on August 20, 2010, 06:05:25 PM
Hi Mark,
 
The headlight motors and mechanism can and will stick if left for a long time.
 
The fuse for the retractor motor is in the rectangular fusebox in the engine bay - I think it\'s the end one - in any case it\'s a 30A fuse marked \'retractor\' - pull that and the motors are isolated (you\'ll need to do this for 2 reasons - 1 - the battery is flattening because the motor can\'t \'home\' the light, 2 - you don\'t want the motors on when you manually move the lights.)
 
So once you\'ve pulled the fuse - if you get underneath the car with a hand you\'ll find 2 rubber caps (one each side) that cover a gear - this is the hand winding mechanism that let\'s you lower/raise the lights by hand. It\'s not a nice mechanism - if you\'ve got some gloves I\'d use them - and never turn these things with the motors connected otherwise it will strip the skin off your finger for sure ! :eek:
 
If you can get the lights up - you\'ll see there\'s some white capped ball/socket joints on the mechanism - you can pop these out - clean the old grease off and regrease with fresh - that will go along way to freeing the mechanism. If that doesn\'t do it - the motors are mounted on the mechanism by 3 bolts - you can undo them and pop the control rod off (white ball joint thing) and test the motor turns - there\'s an oiling hole as well - give it a drop or two.
 
Aside from that - they are just fiddly ;)
 
Good luck with it :)
Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: Koose on August 20, 2010, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: Prof;711975Hi Mark,
 
The headlight motors and mechanism can and will stick if left for a long time.
 
The fuse for the retractor motor is in the rectangular fusebox in the engine bay - I think it\'s the end one - in any case it\'s a 30A fuse marked \'retractor\' - pull that and the motors are isolated (you\'ll need to do this for 2 reasons - 1 - the battery is flattening because the motor can\'t \'home\' the light, 2 - you don\'t want the motors on when you manually move the lights.)
 
So once you\'ve pulled the fuse - if you get underneath the car with a hand you\'ll find 2 rubber caps (one each side) that cover a gear - this is the hand winding mechanism that let\'s you lower/raise the lights by hand. It\'s not a nice mechanism - if you\'ve got some gloves I\'d use them - and never turn these things with the motors connected otherwise it will strip the skin off your finger for sure ! :eek:
 
If you can get the lights up - you\'ll see there\'s some white capped ball/socket joints on the mechanism - you can pop these out - clean the old grease off and regrease with fresh - that will go along way to freeing the mechanism. If that doesn\'t do it - the motors are mounted on the mechanism by 3 bolts - you can undo them and pop the control rod off (white ball joint thing) and test the motor turns - there\'s an oiling hole as well - give it a drop or two.
 
Aside from that - they are just fiddly ;)
 
Good luck with it :)


Thank you ever so much !!

And there was me worried to buy one incase no one knew anything about them!!:guinness
Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: monterx7 on August 20, 2010, 06:11:36 PM
for the headlights see if you can manually move the lights up and down.  the headlight motors have a knob you can turn to move the headlights up and down.  the knob points down under the bumper area.  find out if the motor is junk or not
Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: grinder on August 20, 2010, 07:13:20 PM
bit of a pain by hand.. think i used a 17mm socket over it :D
Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: Koose on August 20, 2010, 08:26:53 PM
Cheers boys, well the passenger side one now works fully up and down, the drivers goes down perfectly, but wont go up, if i give it a helping hand (dang my thumb hurts) itll go up from half way.
Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: TiddlesRX7 on August 20, 2010, 08:50:50 PM
I\'ve a headlight motor for sale at the moment if yours turns out to be goosed.
Title: FC T2 Pop ups not popping up
Post by: Prof on August 20, 2010, 10:24:41 PM
Quote from: Koose;712006Cheers boys, well the passenger side one now works fully up and down, the drivers goes down perfectly, but wont go up, if i give it a helping hand (dang my thumb hurts) itll go up from half way.

My drivers side one went the same way - there\'s a switch inside the gearbox on the end of the motor - and it get\'s crud or water in it - knackers the contacts.  The switch is what tells the motor to wind up or down depending on where it is.