As you may know I am seriously considering the greatest sin a rotary owner can do and I need to reallly get an idea how much I could sell my complete engine and gearbox for, its only done about 2000 miles since a RE-Worx rebuild its from a 97 car twin turbos, big FMIC, snows water injection, magnecor leads, Apexi etc mapped by Max at 350bhp
50p.....now keep the rotary and stop looking at v8\'s
You probably get 2K for the engine and turbos and £400 for the ECU and £250 for the gearbox, £300 for the FMIC,£100 for the WI
Quote from: AtomicRex;70823550p.....now keep the rotary and stop looking at v8\'s
This ............
Thanks for both the constructive and comical posts so far. It\'s a handy reference to re-do my sums.
I don\'t want to mess about selling bits, it will, if it does go be sold as a whole complete deal.
It\'s a very sad day when an RX gets its heart and soul ripped out and replaced with a lump of crude american pig iron! especially when its a runner.. I guess everyone here knows about the RX8? It\'s been banned from sale in Europe at the end of the year due to Euro 5 emmision regs.
We need to keep these cars as they were intended or before long we\'ll see the demise of the rotary.
If you want a v8 go buy a Monaro or Corvette.
Just my opinion!
all things must pass
Ask Re:Worx David, they stripped and sold all the bits from mine. If you want to see an honest V8 build thread with costs try here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=47&t=830949&mid=57792
There is also what I had back from my engine bay in there, along with all incidentals.
I\'m just doing a new post with some updated costs on it. It adds up. Like you, i looked at a new motor, then I ran away sharpish. Its just not necessary and you don\'t get any of the incidentals.
Reply on that thread if you have questions, and if you want to meet up and try mine one day soon (it ran for the first time yesterday) then let me know. I still haven\'t even driven one! I just fancied a change really, i had no problem with reliability.
I\'ll be visiting Geff @ Re:Worx with it when its finished, could meet you there on a saturday.
Just remind me if I\'m wrong but were you not against v8 conversions a while back?
I\'ve never been anti-V8, I\'ve been anti-bull..... Getting costs and weights out of people was always nigh impossible.
The point I have also made stands; for the price of a V8 conversion you will rebuild your rotary 3-4 times. I can now prove this!
The fact is I had done everything with mine and was bored. I was almost relieved when it popped as I had been considering selling/breaking it. But i couldn\'t face it, they are amazing cars, and I couldn\'t think of what to replace it with. I want RWD and lots of power (more than the 400hp i had). Everything else weighs too much, and using my car on track and sprinting has shown me that light weight beats power every time (its those pesky corners and on the brakes, where i always beat the Skylines, Supras, etc).
So....make the car I love into a different car. I drive a V8 daily (BMW 540) and love the noise and torque and want a bigger/more powerful one. I also have the money. If I didn\'t I\'d rebuild it as a rotary. But I\'ve been there and done that and wish to move on to something different.
I want to make the car more usable; each thing I\'ve done has made it more and more track-focused and I want it to be something I think, on a sunny day, \'oh, I\'ll take the Rex\'. It had increasingly been something I only took out for track work or racing. I want to put the interior back in and have a stereo. I will have air-conditioning. Oh, and more power than before, of course. Its easily done.
We\'ll see what it weighs; it was corner weighted before so I\'ll know how much more weight there was, and where its gone.
What I have always hated is the \'V8s are better, full stop\' brigade, especially those who bought a shagged Rex, blew it up immediately, and started going on about the holy grail of the V8. I\'ve moved onto something different because I want something different, not because i think it will be better or worse.
It makes them a different car (which happens to be just what I\'m after, because I\'ve done 3 years of big-power rotary track monster). Its also expensive. Understand those two points and I won\'t slag anyone\'s choice off.
When I\'ve finished I\'ll tell anyone who asks exactly whats worse or better about both rotary or V8 power. I\'ll actually know, instead of listening to whatever side i wish to believe in at the time, or because one type of engine was cruel to me.
Your welcome to have a look when its finished, which shouldn\'t be long now.
Interesting, I have been re-thinking my idea of buying a crate engine and have been in contact with someone in the states that has a 12000 mile 2006 GTO LS2 complete with T56 gearbox for £4000 I was going to buy it straight away and stash it but have just bought a container load of materials from China so I\'m a bit strapped for cash at the moment, but it has all the bits including air-con still on it and I\'m now thinking a \'pull-out\' is the way I\'ll probably go now as well. I will of course get Geff to do all the work when I get round to it.
Having done a few trackdays now with my car I\'m hooked but have an overheating problem and I\'m reluctant to spend out on a V-mount as the money would be better spent going towards the V8.
Quote from: David Wiltshire;709208Interesting, I have been re-thinking my idea of buying a crate engine and have been in contact with someone in the states that has a 12000 mile 2006 GTO LS2 complete with T56 gearbox for £4000 I was going to buy it straight away and stash it but have just bought a container load of materials from China so I\'m a bit strapped for cash at the moment, but it has all the bits including air-con still on it and I\'m now thinking a \'pull-out\' is the way I\'ll probably go now as well. I will of course get Geff to do all the work when I get round to it.
Having done a few trackdays now with my car I\'m hooked but have an overheating problem and I\'m reluctant to spend out on a V-mount as the money would be better spent going towards the V8.
Yeah I did the V-Mount thing and it makes all the difference. Mine used to scare me hitting 108c, then i\'d do a slow lap, then start again. With a v-mount your troubles are over.
That LS2 is cheap, i think mine was from a 48k mile GTO, or so the breaker said. Its a breaker Craig has used a lot and its started up with excellent oil pressure so it seems good. I paid £4400 (+800 shipping +500 VAT/import duty). If the mileage on yours is correct then I\'d buy it. Once its here, if anything ever changes, you could sell it on no problem. Craig leaves sorting the motor to you completely, can\'t be bothered with the hassle of it, so to some people its more trouble they don\'t want.
You don\'t want Geff to do the work. I don\'t think he\'d want to do it either, having spent 3 years or so doing the nightmare LS7 install for Phil. Craig is the man; he does it differently to everyone else and you\'ll be impressed when you meet him. He makes everything himself; proper engineer.
To have working AC on the V8 you can\'t use the pump that comes with the LS2. Read my thread in detail, its all in there.
PM me a number and I\'ll let you know when i go down to see Geff.
Thanks, I must admit looking through the thread the standard of work carried out by Craig is very good so its a no-brainer there as to who should do it. I\'ve been quoted $850 delivery to my door and as you say there is VAT and perhaps duty not sure did you have to pay duty?
Quote from: David Wiltshire;709238Thanks, I must admit looking through the thread the standard of work carried out by Craig is very good so its a no-brainer there as to who should do it. I\'ve been quoted $850 delivery to my door and as you say there is VAT and perhaps duty not sure did you have to pay duty?
I\'m the 14th RX-7 he\'s done, and he keeps tweaking and changing and improving as he goes. If you want to keep your pop-ups and have aircon....you have me to thank as I\'m the first person to insist on both! He\'s actually said to me that he is doing a few things differently after mine, and will keep those changes into his \'method\' from now on.
I paid $1100 for shipping by UPS and it took 3 days. Well it was in the country in 3 days but customs sat on it for 10 more as the breakers couldn\'t apparently handle copying-and-pasting the address, and managed to scribble out the wrong name meaning they didn\'t know who to contact for payment/questions. Communication with divvy yanks is the worst thing about the whole process, by the way. Worth mentioning that UPS do all the paperwork and pay all VAT & duty, then simply call you for the money. Very easy. They send some funny questionnaire (or you just do it on the phone with them) where you answer a few weird questions, whats its to be used for, who will be the end user (?), that sort of thing. It doesn\'t seem to matter what you say ;)
VAT/Duty....The way it works is...say you buy something for $5000. Convert that to sterling. Say it comes out at £4000. Add 10% of the value, which makes it £4400. You pay VAT on £4400. Thats your import tax/duty/whatever payment. Just that VAT amount.
So if you asked the people who are sending it to fill in the paperwork and say it was worth $2500 instead.....I\'ll leave that idea hanging in space. Of course, it would only be insured for $2500, but that may be a chance a person may be willing to make.
Thanks lot of helpfull info, I have always wanted to keep the air-con as well and prefer the pop up lights.