Hey guys,
Have noticed after going for a good drive in my FB today that when i stopped on a hill i could see what looked to be a small trickle coming from the left hand corner of the tank..
Does anyone have a good S3 tank for sale or know of any places that you can take the tanks to and get them checked??
I am running a surge tank and have checked all the fittings coming in and out of the tank to it and can not see visible signs of a leak.. I suspect its coming from the seam in the tank some where..
Cheers
They all leak sooner or later on the top rear left hand corner. I\'ve just managed to drop on a tank for my project car after nearly 6 months of looking.
Yours is probably just pin holed, most go that way.
Just drop the tank, clean up around the hole and araldite it. It\'ll fix it no problem. I\'ve done loads of tanks like that over the years.
see Marcs thread here, he\'s just fixed his....
http://mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63026&page=4
Thanks ian will take a look at that thread - to me apoxys and fuel isnt a good combination but will take a look..
Any peps got any places who can take a look at the tank or pressure test ??
Also here is the pics of my tank.. As you can see the dark bit on the side it looks to be leaking somewhere along there..
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/bo0557/Fuel%20Tank/DSC_0690.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/bo0557/Fuel%20Tank/DSC_0687.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/bo0557/Fuel%20Tank/DSC_0686.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/bo0557/Fuel%20Tank/DSC_0685.jpg)
From the pics it looks like it\'s leaking from the central seam weld.
In my view the tanks are poor quality,most 1st gens have low mileage for their age & are\'nt driven on salty roads as a commute vehicle.
I think if mine went i\'d consider getting a stainless tank made,i got 1 made for a dax cobra a loooooooooooong time ago,much better than crappy mild steel.
ta stu..
The damage was done years ago when the cars were still in regular use.
They are all now over 25 years old, have spent years slung under the cars in all the wet and rust so it\'s no wonder they rust and leak.
If that tank is leaking from the seam, I\'d seal it with POR15
Wheres the best place to get this POR15 from?? More than happy to give it a good seal and hope it fixes it if its the proper gear..
here\'s the application guide...
http://www.por15.com/Data%20Sheets/POR15ApplicationInfo.pdf
I get mine from here....
http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=9069&frostProductName=BLACK POR 15 Rust Prevention Paint (473ml)&catID=&frostCat=&frostSubCat=&subCatID=
I\'ve done my replacement tank with it today
yeh found this.. Looks like the kit you put a solution in the tank and it seals from the inside rather than the outer or am i still jetlagged??
http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&agName=&pCode=094.940
if the inside of the tank is rusty and all the s*** is going down your lines then, yeah, coat the inside of the tank but if the inside of the tank is good and it\'s just got a pinhole or is leaking from the seam, just give it a real heavy coat of POR15 rust preventative paint from the outside ( flood the seam where it\'s opened up and this stuff sets like rock)
and it\'ll do the job for less than half the price of the internal coating stuff.
yeh read this from a few different sites and will get me some this week..
then just need to put it back in along with a lsd and cdi / water injections setup and get a final tune..
cheers lad
Sorted myself some of that POR15 stuff and it looks the goods now..
plan to put tank back in tonight and get it back on the road..
Nice one, glad you could save it... decent 2nd hand ones are like hens teeth!
shall post a pic of it tonight before i put it back in - it come up the goods..
here some pics of the tank after a few good coats of the POR15..
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/bo0557/ffe10011.jpg)
(http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af296/bo0557/8d0f140d.jpg)
wow impressive, looks like new :D
It sure does. Good tip. Let us know if it\'s done the job OK.
Quote from: David Nock;701254It sure does. Good tip. Let us know if it\'s done the job OK.
Indeed it has - filled it with 15L of fuel and primed the surge tank and ZERO leaks :)
:3gears-rh:3gears-rh:3gears-rh soon :)
Good work :)
Good save!
Hi guys, recently dropped the tank from \'JAZ\' after feeling a load of crud on the top round filler tube area. Have cleaned up, rubbed down, primer and top coated. Also took opportunity to check body out for corrosion and anything else - found one small area for plating (yet to do) but have treated and undersealed all other areas (plenty of fotos attached).
Right my question is - whilst it is out, might as well clean the internal of any s**t (that\'s silt by the way) before putting it back in so what is the best and easiest way to empty the residue of petrol from the tank - does this involve removal of sensor/other pipe/hoses?
Cliff
The tank looks Good to Go Cliff, another problem out of the way. The S3 has a drain plug but i seem to remember Mark (MKP 490P) saying he thought the S2 tank didn\'t have one?
So a quick but gentle swirl around in the tank with clean petrol, pour it back out the filler and away? Gentle because I see a difference now to the S3 tank. We\'ve got the 3 dip pipes into the top going in via a removable plate, - yours are separate push - ons. Well one dip pipe on the S3 has a strainer on the end for bits of rust. Since you don\'t seem to have access to yours that\'s why I\'d say be gentle with the swirling. Don\'t want to stir up rust flakes into the strainer, if one is present. Also the sender might not like vigorous whirlpools going past while you swirl?
And don\'t forget a new fuel filter for what they cost - maybe in 1000 miles when the dirt has settled out?
That\'s all my thoughts.....any others?
Good thinking batman. Can concur the S2 doesn\'t have a drain plug (bit of a bummer really) and I have been draining from the filler but there seems to be a fair amount (perhaps 3 lts or so) which doesn\'t want to come out - is there a reservoir of some description which could prevent this? (I remember the Triumph Herald had a spare tank with a manual override handle although I never had to use it).
Tank shape probably never intended the last dregs to come out via the filler. A manual sucky pump? Turkey baster with the bottom filler connection taken off?
Looks like a big Turkey as well. Don\'t oven it Cliff.
:cheers
Soundz good to me and perhaps even a piece of crispy wing while doing it?
Just need to source a pump then.
Thanks as ever. Cliff
Quote from: Ian65;699085if the inside of the tank is rusty and all the s*** is going down your lines then, yeah, coat the inside of the tank but if the inside of the tank is good and it\'s just got a pinhole or is leaking from the seam, just give it a real heavy coat of POR15 rust preventative paint from the outside ( flood the seam where it\'s opened up and this stuff sets like rock)
and it\'ll do the job for less than half the price of the internal coating stuff.
Hi Ian, I was down @ Stuarts (Tamworth) about 5 weeks ago and I believe you were there earlier in the week. He said you got his tank & sender/pump? I picked up his doors, interior & lord knows what else but what a fortunate find - completely filled the back of my Rangie. He tells me that the \'shell\' has since been towed away. Also told me he will probably be getting rid of his white S3 (perhaps this year) to help fund his VW restoration.Cliff
I did indeed have his tank and pump. I\'ve since had a bonnet off him too.
I\'ve gotta say that Stu was a top bloke, great to deal with and his white s3 was a nice car.
Did he show you his Ferrari 328? The most gorgeous, immaculate car I\'ve seen in many a year.
Definitely a top bloke and so dedicated and meticulous when seeing a job through. Didn\'t have the Ferrari there when we went - would have liked to have seen it but he has sent me photos of a Mclaren M6 GTR which he built and has since sold and sent to Italy.
I would consider taking his S3 off him later on knowing his commitment to detail and perfection. Apparently the shell which he stripped and sold on was in better condition than his S3 - he did say had the donor car come along first he would have restored the cars the other way round. In fact the areas of the donor car which I saw was in better condition than JAZ but hey life goes on.
Cliff