Hi all, I know a bit about FDs, but nothing about FCs....so what would you say, from just the advert, this is worth
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1989-MAZDA-RX7-TURBO-BLACK-/120580256616?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c1324b368
It is defo not worth that much purely because i don\'t think he will find anyone willing to pay that much, now if he sold wheels suspension various other parts he might get closer to that price. He is a guy over on driftworks.
In reality I would guess probably only around half the asking price. Brian Ellis had a big spec FC for around £4-4.5k and it didnt sell.
FC Cabs normally hold there money well and we have agreed valuations out there for 6K.
U/K cars are rare with only 360 imported so values should rise for good ones, however as with anything, its only worth as much as somebody is prepared to pay.
Hope this helps
as clive sais, but for that price you can import a low milage (around 50k miles) completly original coupe minimal rust, few small mods (strut brace etc that can easy be reversable).
bear in mind even though the engine has been rebuilt the chassis milage is quite high (maybe low for 20 yr old car) and uk rust?
each to their own :)
does look quite nice though :)
he is on here also, initial_j?
yep thats my car.
i am 100 percent sure i will get that for it.
perhaps some people arnt reading the full advert.
it has a brand new clutch just gone in
it has only done 10k since the last engine rebuild at the cost of £3500!
the wheels are worth 1k
for those of you who havnt heard of hsd coilovers, they are the best money can buy in this country
the cage is the only vert specific cage i have seen in the country!
the number plate C4B RX
the aero is all genuine bendy plastic parts from japan, again worth a fortune
not to mention it has the leather tonneau cover
and no real rust at all!
i think perhaps a lot of people dont quite appreciate just how expensive the parts on there are, and also how hard it is to find an fc vert without rust and WITH a engine rebuild
if a stock one is going for 3k!: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-RX7-TURBO-2-CONVERTIBLE-1990-AMAZING-STUNNER-/280506052493?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item414f76af8d
i have about an extra 3k of parts, AND a rebuilt engine and new clutch!
take note of this anyone looking for one, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. you could easily pick up a stock vert for a lot cheaper, bang engine dies, your looking at a 3.5k bill.
and dont compare normal fc turbo prices with that of fc convertibles, completly different prices as theres about 30x the ammount of fc coupes around. just like e36 bmws, the price of a 325i and a 325i convertible is about 3 times the ammount! especially in the summer!
mine is a damn bargain at that price!
I\'d say a lot of car for the money - stick to your guns - if someone wants it bad enough - that\'s not a lot to pay for what is a lot of car. :cheers
thanks bud. dont worry it wont be going for a penny less than the asking price.
it was actually sold last week, someone "bought it now" for 4.5k however after a couple of emails, trying to find out when he wanted to collect, hes gone quite : ( typical ebay time wasters!
agree intial its not over priced wouldnt let mine go for silly money its uk,standard apart from alloys 38000 from new.
good luck with sale nice car
limited appeal tho mate - standard ones imo have much more appeal - there cant be many people in the uk wanting a modified convertible mazda with a stiff ride, a cage and buckled wheel. Id have thought convertible = cruiser so all the "drift" mods arent really helping. it also gives off the perception of a car driven quite hard
tbh i thought it was over priced at first purely because brians car was cheaper and had a much more epic spec. Though i think he just underpriced it heavily.
depends how you look at it though, there are two clean big single FC\'s going for 5000-6000 (i think) which makes this car look incredibly over priced, though in my opinion these are underpriced too. That unfortunately devalues this car, even though it looks like its worth every penny.
also u cant price a car like an fc by what parts are on it at some stage u got to bear in mind the car itself is a old mazda with an engine that people are scared of!
gandys car is prime example
his car has
rebuilt engine by one of best in business
half bridge port
t78 single turbo recent reconditioned
v mount
regamasters
uprated fuelling
microtech ecu
not to mention his is a jdm car so no rust...also if anything its the jap models that are worth more. for this exact reason. gandys car should be worth its asking price all day long
grrr. read what i wrote
NONE OF THE CARS YOUR TALKING ABOUT ARE VERTS!!!
they are a completly different car! you pay extra for convertibles in nearly all forms of car. so please stop with the "ooh so and so sold there fc for this money". its irrelevant. find me a VERT with a better spec for cheaper money.
its a "look at me" car. it looks nice. i certainly think a LOT more people would want a nice looking vert than a bloody t78 turbod fc, what the hell are you going to do with that apart from drag racing?!
narrow minded simple people, might not be able to see past certain things. a buckled wheel. wow! get it straighten for £40. not really a problem.
dont like the cage? take it out and sell it!
coilovers to stiff? turn them a few clicks with your fingers, hey presto soft as you like
rust- doesnt have any, as ive already said
as ive said in the ad, it hasnt had the welded diff fitted, so hasnt been driven hard.
i really think some people are being very selective with what they pay attention to.
its has a fresh rebuild and a brand new clutch. put that together and its more than the price of the car!
so if your the type who would rather buy a vert for 2.5k, and expect it to last, keep dreaming. itll cost you more in the long run
so if were quite all done decreasing the ammount of people that might be interested through ignorance..
Looks like I opened a can of worms
Initial_j I wasnt insinuating that your car isnt worth the money, I just wanted to find out more about values etc as I dont know much about them
thats alright mate, nor do a lot of people on here by the sounds of things!
if anyone is genuinly interested though, feel free to get in touch.
i did have about 20 watchers before the last idiot used the buy it now and then never got in touch! and that was before the new clutch!
Quote from: initial_j;698306for those of you who havnt heard of hsd coilovers, they are the best money can buy in this country
how much are these? where did you buy them, where are they made and what makes you say they are the best money can buy in this country?
thats a pretty big statement considering the other well established suspension manufacturers around.
car looks fantastic to me, i\'m sure someone wil have it to pose round in over summer.
Do ya think that this is worth the money? Its for sale over here in Ireland.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mazda/RX-8/RX-7-1.7/200935195057128/advert?channel=CARS
Quote from: gazzgazz;698399how much are these? where did you buy them, where are they made and what makes you say they are the best money can buy in this country?
thats a pretty big statement considering the other well established suspension manufacturers around.
car looks fantastic to me, i\'m sure someone wil have it to pose round in over summer.
hsd? http://www.driftworks.com/shop/p638/HSD-HR-Monotube-Coilovers-for-other-cars/product_info.html
£760
ive used just about every set of coilovers there is in my life and these are by far superior to anything else.
highly suprised you havnt heard of them
i have heard of them,
was interested in where you got them, what you paid for them and why you felt they where the best there is as i\'m in the market for a set of coilovers myself.
i got from driftworks a month ago, but ran them for a year on my 180sx before hand, easy to adjust, seriously high quality build to last, they dont sieze up a week after fitting them! plus being uk based, if anything did ever go wrong you can get them fixed
worth mentioning if anyone does want just a stock vert, ill happily put it back to standard and lower the price.
still got the wheels, suspension. can easily take everything else off and sell seperatly
theres stock black vert up for sale here for £1900 without a rebuild
so would happily let mine go for £2600 with new clutch and fresh rebuild
FC verts have come and gone on this Forum, seen plenty on Ebay and I have sold 3 myself, one of these was sold for £4500 and that was a showroom car but completely standard. I have always argued that a really good FC Convertible can demand good prices. What you can not do though is base any car on what you have spent on it, I have seen plenty of FD\'s that will have had a new engine costing £4500 and then to only get the same sort of money back for the car.
How would I price my car? How would you price Furb\'s excellent FC coupe?
The price you demand must be realistic in todays market, as many have said its all about the how much someone wants to pay for it, if they like it and theres competition then they will raise the stakes even if it means going over what would be the ideal price.
In the case of the black vert then personally I would have liked to have seen a new roof on it and then it would have been worth the asking price. A new roof might have cost around £500 to have fitted but then it would appeal to a far bigger audience and hence a far better and quicker sale.
You also have to take into account the bodywork, any welding? personally I would not pay up to £4500 on a cab that has had welding, it has to be excellent condition underneath. Rebuilds play a big part and likewise a good low mileage motor with confirmed compression will tempt the majority of any rotary lover be it FC or FD.
The roof must be rip free and body panels free from dents and rust, likewise the paint must be in good shape. So many variables will affect the price in one way or another but presentation is everything, first impressions last a very long time and are one of the single biggest factors in anyone deciding on a car and maybe worth that bit extra.
Prices:
Up to £6000 for a really excellent modded car, fresh paint, quality mods and new engine, stainless exhaust etc etc
Up to £4500 for a really good UK standard showroom low mileage car
Up to £3200 for a good car
Up to £2500 for avg car but still with good roof, panels etc and minor mods such as exhaust etc
Up to £1500 for a dog of a car but engine good, expect a ripped roof, maybe welding etc etc
to be honest im fricking bored stupid of explaining my price. if people cant be bothered to read what ive put, dont bother.
"I have seen plenty of FD\'s that will have had a new engine costing £4500 and then to only get the same sort of money back for the car"
THIS HAS HAD A NEW ENGINE at the price of £3500, so im asking 1k more, for a brand new set of top range coilovers, brand exedy clutch, the only vert specific cage in the country, a huge set of expensive wheels, and some seriously rare bendy aero and a seriously good personal plate, what the .... else do you want?!!
"I would not pay up to £4500 on a cab that has had welding, it has to be excellent condition underneath. Rebuilds play a big part and likewise a good low mileage motor with confirmed compression will tempt the majority of any rotary lover be it FC or FD."
once again, have you actually read the ad? it hasnt had any welding. it doesnt need any welding. it has a new engine. ....s sake!
coming from another fc owner, do i really need to go on about how rare good parts are?
ive owned and sold nearly every jap car their is. i know whats worth the money and what isnt. i dont need to be told that you dont get back what you put in.
if anyone wants to buy it, get in touch
if anyone just wants to carry on making it harder to sell by adding more irrelevant ....e to my sale, dont bother
please delete this thread
To be fair i think a lot of the replies especially PD Taylors are not specifically talking about your car and are more of a general comment about any vert.
Personally i like the look of your car and hope the sale goes well:Thumbs-up
maybe i read it wrong. however not that helpfull either way
trying to sell a car you dont really want to sell is stressfull enough as it is without people chipping in their opinions uninvited
this lot:
"Up to £6000 for a really excellent modded car, fresh paint, quality mods and new engine, stainless exhaust etc etc
Up to £4500 for a really good UK standard showroom low mileage car
Up to £3200 for a good car
Up to £2500 for avg car but still with good roof, panels etc and minor mods such as exhaust etc
Up to £1500 for a dog of a car but engine good, expect a ripped roof, maybe welding etc etc"
means absolutely nothing. there are far too many variables on any car to be able to just fit it into one persons idea of how much it should be. so mine has a ripped roof, that mean its only worth £1500 then?i think not
id of thought anyone with common sense the MOST Important thing on buying an rx7 vert, is the engine. as that is what will cost the money to fix. a roof, few hundred quid, an engine several thousands of pounds.
READ what I have said, its not at all about YOUR car, its about FC cabs in general. I am all for your car getting the asking price and have always stuck and supported those sort of prices and higher for excellent, quality cabs either standard or with quality modded items added. Dont give up on this thread, you have more than backed up your asking price and I for one support you but what you must do is hear what people are saying rather than shoot them down in flames.
This is not some magic numbers I have pulled out of a hat, its years of buying, selling and studying the market purely on FC Verts. Did I call your car a dog?? Of course i did not and I can see that you have taken this totally in the wrong way.
A new roof is actually around £700 to buy and have fitted and that will not be a Mazda one either.
I actually support your asking price and I was hoping that my information would be some sort of guide to others who wish to sell their cabs and to more than justify your asking price.
IMO give it a good wash and take some better pictures. it seriously help the sell a lot! (at least that works in Japan :p)
I would say your valuations are spot on, I must of had lady luck on my side when I found mine, I paid £930 for her with full t&t, the roof is a bit tatty in the usual places and a little bit of rust on the drivers rear quarter but other than that it\'s a fine example for a uk spec. As you say presentation is a key factor in sales :)