First post for me, hi everyone had a look at this car today it was on piston heads last month very tidy with no rust and very clean underneth the guy wants 3200 for it, is it worth it.
Has had a recent rebuild, uprated clutch, exhaust and paint job as you can see by the over spray in the wheel arches just needs under sealing to cover.
He has had the car for about a year and got it off a guy who imported it from japan, doe\'s anyone know the car?
here is a link to some pics
Cheers
http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab33/festas/
3200 for an fc? are you nuts?
No not nuts, I like FC\'s and its hard to find one thats not a rust bucket
There are a few fc\'s for sale at the mo that are rather overpriced to put it kindly!:evillaugh
Knowing what i know now i would only buy an imported fc. As all uk cars are prone to rust and i think, well on my car anyway the damage is so bad and been neglected so long it will effect the structual rigidity of the chassis.
Id pay that for a rust free jay deee :)
Not all Uk ones are rot boxes, just most of them ;) You just have to know where to look for the bad bits. JDM ones are deffo a safer bet though. FC\'s are hard to price up at the moment. They are getting thin on the ground and interest in them is high. This puts prices up. Unfortunately the global cash crisis has dropped the arse out of the market so people don\'t have the money to spend on fun cars. Meaning some people are having to sell them for peanuts or break them :(
As for that car, I think I recognise it but don\'t know why. If its got proof of the rebuild and a recent compression test then it might not be over priced. It\'d cost you more than its for sale for to import it.
Its a series 4, so will have the lower power turbo, might be a jap import, hence no rust, but its still a bit much, I got my UK spec FC with hardly any rust for £1600 3 years ago, 86k, compressions of 7s on all faces :)
judging by the rear lights / numberplate and 3rd brake light. i\'d say its jdm :)
speedo too, and front indicators and side indicators.
m1tch: why is it a series 4?
just had a quick peek at \'rotary\'heads and seems fc prices have gone up a little.
looks like a S5 JDM , and i cant tell if its got the really really rare rear lights ???
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yeah it looks like it has
it\'s a 1991 so should be a S5, and buy the sound of it not that over priced because of the condition its in
Its not a turbo II, check the writing on the intercooler - it says "rotary turbo with intercooler" and not "13b intercooled Turbo II" so unless they have put a series 4 intercooler on a series 5 turbo II engine its a series 4 lol
BTW, I was offered this car a few years ago for £3k:
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Nice mitch!
I imported mine for just slightly over 2k inc all the charges, that was back in 2007
I would definately import
Quote from: m1tch;676682Its not a turbo II, check the writing on the intercooler - it says "rotary turbo with intercooler" and not "13b intercooled Turbo II" so unless they have put a series 4 intercooler on a series 5 turbo II engine its a series 4 lol
interesting theory - mine is a S5 and has the same IC ???
speak to L18M he will import one for you :)
now (thanks to grinder) established my 91 FC is a uk car mint & solid as a rock,standard apart from fox rs alloys & stereo 38000 miles l wouldnt sell for £3200
the clocks on that blue one are s4. Also it doesn\'t have the sideskirts. Looks like someones just put an s5 bumper on it.
oh an the interior is s4
well spotted about the seats !!
im intregued about the IC at this point ?
and how do you know they are S4 clocks ?
Looks like I\'ve opened a can of worms, all good stuff to know.
Found this on the net about the markings on the intercooler and year
Series 5 (1989-1992) featured updated styling and better engine management, as well as lighter rotors and a higher compression ratio, 9.7:1 for the naturally aspirated model, and 9.0:1 for the turbo model. The Turbo II moniker was dropped, and the turbocharged model was simply dubbed Turbo. The naturally aspirated Series 5 FC made 160 hp (119 kW), while the Series 5 Turbo made 200 hp (147 kW).
how eaisy is to import one, what spec, what cost etc or am I beter off finding one allready here
S4 clocks are bigger than the s5. and the clocks on that blue fc just take me back to the egi which was s4.
also im pretty sure the s4\'s were still called turbo TII\'s
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the S4 turbo was just a turbo ( i think )
it was only when the twin scroll turbo arrived on the S5 it became a turbo II ( i think )
and as festa says - the S5 turbo is 202 at the fly and the S4 turbo is about 180 ish
Humm would like to see a comparison now between S4 and S5 clocks :D
Best OEM setup is a series 5 turbo, series 4 engine :)
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I broke this car almost 2 years ago :cheers
Honestly...how is this blue FC worth 3k+? I mean what has it got apart from a filter and exhaust? Im all for keeping the value of rotaries high but not really keen on watching someone get ripped off...
I mean hell we cant even decide whether its a series IV or V. So what we are saying is its a mismatch of bits. Any word on the engine health?
Quote from: Jit;676801I broke this car almost 2 years ago :cheers
Honestly...how is this blue FC worth 3k+? I mean what has it got apart from a filter and exhaust? Im all for keeping the value of rotaries high but not really keen on watching someone get ripped off...
I mean hell we cant even decide whether its a series IV or V. So what we are saying is its a mismatch of bits. Any word on the engine health?
Interesting lol the guy who emailed me about it said he was leaving the country and needed to sell it, so I guess it was either you who emailed me or you bought it off the guy lol
WHat turbo was on that BTW, and what wheels are they? Never did find out many specs on it, how much power do you think it was making? I turned the car down although I REALLY wanted it due to the fact that this would have been my first rotary, my first RWD car and my first turbo car lol annoyingly that car is how I want my car, but I would rather start from OEM and get the parts I want, rather than a pre-modded one.
That rotary is waaay over priced, unless it had a 13B-RE engine or a large turbo/intercooler/exhaust combo like the black one its worth probably about 2k tops if its an S4 its going to be slower than if you bought a cheaper.
Here is a UK turbo II, HUGE spec for 2k
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1515687.htm
I bought it. it was a t04e . Wheels were 18in SSR SP1s which i let go for stupidly low monays. It was prob making 330ish? It had aftermakret injectors, fuel pump, clutch, LSD..you name it.
Well seams like the car is over priced, being its a 1991 on a J reg it should be a series 5 but some confusion on that.
The engine ran fine and pulled well, I think the reason for the price is the guy is trying to get the money back for the rebuild, new wheels and paint job etc.
I\'d like to know more about importing one myself if anyone can help ?
Try Martin at speedline imports - hes an advertiser on here. TBH though, importing is looking pretty dire at the moment with the current exchange rate both with the yen affecting the car costs and with the dollar affecting shipping costs.
Asked the guy to look at the price he wants and found out some more about it, he said it was imported about 18 months ago by street candy when they took it for an MOT the engine blew and he got it off them as a non runner so he rebuit it, paint etc etc.
Also found this on the net about identifing a s4 and s5 turbo motor, interesting reading
http://www.hitman.hm/13BHints.htm
Cars are only worth what someone is willing to pay for one. I sold a TII cab for £4500 2 years ago with a private plate and my white one was over £3K. I would definately pay over £3K for an FC be it cab or coupe as long as it had proof of rebuild and it was in excellent condition and preferably for me a JDM recently imported as they do significantly have either no rust and things come apart really easily underneath the car. They will also have less mileage oin them. The FC is fast becoming a rare classic judging by the way they are being broken up. Cant see the point in buying a high mileage car for £1500 and then spending over £2k in rebuilding it and then perhaps the same again in paint unless you are after a really good show car. I dread to think what my orange one has cost over the last 2 years but £8K for sure.
Well I managed to talk the guy down to a price I was happy to pay so its all go will pick the car up next week.
First thing on the list are some coil overs ( any ideas, second hand vs new ) and then I think I\'ll drive it for the summer before doing some mods.
I bought second hand coilovers. I can\'t fault them. Nice cheap way of getting the ride/look you want. There are people who wouldn\'t but them second hand, but as long as they are in good nick then I don\'t see a problem with it. Just have a good look at them before you buy.
Congrats on the purchase too.
Cheers
Where did you get your coilovers from
Of a member on here called Driftmotion. He does a bit of importing For his cars and had some spares which I bought. Best bet is put put an add in the wanted section though really.
Hi, This one is for sale beside me. It was imported from Japan into England from what I see. I dont know when it was but the only problem is its over here in ireland. The lad selling got a few spare parts with it which I bought of him. Had a quick look at her but didn\'t look under neat her for rust or anything but say its ok seen its came from Japan.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1186366
If anyone is interested and want to know anything about it I can go have a look at it and let you know. Its on english plates.
Thomas