Is there much interest for full or just rear bolt in cages for the fc?
Im looking round for something but cant decide between full or just rear, seen the group buy available with nickson motorsport but its a bit too much for my linking. Is anyone else just after a cheap and cheerful cage?
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same as you was up for it until prices were revealed a bit to rich for my veins. If you could find one @ a decent price i might be in
Ok cool, whats ur sort of budget?
Nick did my cage for the fd and his work is top notch. Quite pricey but worth it.
Mat
Quote from: NeilSR;673060Ok cool, whats ur sort of budget?
Cheaper the better:Laugh
We are starting to make our own cages....so would happily do a group buy on fitted cages for the FC. They will all conform to the MSA regs and come with an MSA certificate.
Cage would be £605 + VAT
Fitting would be between £1200 for Mig welded or £1500 for Tig welded. +VAT
Seam Welding is £450 + VAT
This will be for a multipoint cage.
If you need the sound-deadening stripping we can do this too. £190 + VAT.
I will offer a 10% discount if you can put together a group of 3 or more.
Hopefully Mr Matthews will be able to clarify the quality of our cages, when he picks his up on Monday :)
Don\'t forget to add on the cost of proper harnesses, fixed seats and all the harness fixing points as well as the cage padding onto the bill...
Quote from: AtomicRex;673116We are starting to make our own cages....so would happily do a group buy on fitted cages for the FC. They will all conform to the MSA regs and come with an MSA certificate.
Cage would be £605 + VAT
Fitting would be between £1200 for Mig welded or £1500 for Tig welded. +VAT
Seam Welding is £450 + VAT
This will be for a multipoint cage.
If you need the sound-deadening stripping we can do this too. £190 + VAT.
I will offer a 10% discount if you can put together a group of 3 or more.
Hopefully Mr Matthews will be able to clarify the quality of our cages, when he picks his up on Monday :)
Im sure I had the word cheap in my post, lol
Was just thinking that myself:Laugh
Try looking here:
http://www.customcages.co.uk/roll-cages/clubman-rollcages
Good value for money for the cage itself.
Fitting is never cheap though, if its done properly - VERY labour intensive!
Kim.
Hence the reason im looking at bolt ins
Quote from: NeilSR;673174Hence the reason im looking at bolt ins
Generally you dont just bolt in a \'bolt in\' cage.:confused:
You still have to weld in the footplates and supporting box sections, etc.
Not as much welding as starting from scratch, though, I would agree.:)
Kim.
Quote from: NeilSR;673165Im sure I had the word cheap in my post, lol
Yep thats cheap and good value :) not only will it save your life if you have the correct seats and harnesses to go with it, but also think of it as an ultimate strut brace for the car :)
Quote from: NeilSR;673165Im sure I had the word cheap in my post, lol
would you wear a cheap helmet?
If you want a bolt in then we can do that too. I won\'t do dash dodgers though. I don\'t want squished heads on my conscience!!
Quote from: AtomicRex;673229would you wear a cheap helmet?
Yes, and I do :p (to be fair, it\'s very rarely used, and I don\'t do competitive motorsport, so I\'m never in the position to justify it)
I\'d not scrounge on a cage though - no bolt in\'s for me, when one is done it\'ll be a proper welded in one.
I agree if I was doing full on motorsport, or doing something where I am likely to roll the car then yes I wouldnt scrimp and save, at the end of the day that is highly unlikely, and this is from more of an aesthetic (sp) point of view
If I ever got competitive, I would have the equipment to suit
A cage for aesthetics?
Come on dude, you\'ve got a proper car - do it properly!
True, lol......
I can see peoples point of view that a cage isn\'t a cheap option. It isn\'t!
I guess it depends on the type of cage you either fit....or have fitted. The cages I quoted for are a multi-point cage. This has:
Main hoop
Door hoops
Transverse bars above and below the windscreen
Cross in the roof
Cross in the main hoop and cross down to the rear strut towers
Double door bars
Extensions to the front strut towers.
The same cage from Custom Cages (As linked above) is £648+VAT
The key to a good cage is that the shell needs to be straight from the outset! We make sure the chassis is as straight and as level as possible, so no point in having your struts at different lengths putting a twist into the shell, as once the cage is in place.....that twist will be there for life!
We are having a new workshop built at the moment, and in there will be a cast iron floor. The chassis can then be bolted to the floor and pulled straight in this instance....thus guaranteeing the car is as straight as possible.
The next part is to make sure the cage is as close and snug as is possible. Ideally the panels need to be taken out, but obviously this all adds to the cost!
Making sure the welds are perfect. I have seen a number of examples where the gas hasn\'t flowed properly and this leaves the weld porous. Putting the welder under a time constraint isn\'t a good ploy either, as those hard to reach areas will be missed.
The benefits of having a decent cage are amazing. Apart from the obvious of it saving your life, it also stiffens up the chassis. The suspension is able to work efficiently, as it has a static platform to work from, rather than added flex. This will improve your cornering and braking ability.
You get what you pay for at the end of the day. If you want a half cage then we can do that, if you want a bolt in cage, again something else we can do. The bonus about bolt in, will be that once it is done....we can get it powdercoated, so no need to spend vast amounts of cash getting it sprayed.
If done properly a bolt in cage is strong! There are plenty of high spec race cars with bolt in cages....but as someone has pointed out, if done as it is meant to, it isn\'t just a case of drill a few holes and bolt it in. You still have to add the stress plates, otherwise you would just rip out the cage in a crash.
Whilst i agree totally with what you say Jon in my instance a cheap and cheerful bolt in cage would suffice. Im not competing, can weld in my own stress plates and im not willing to spend nearly 5times what the car cost me to put in a cage which in my instance is totally other the top.
Dont get me wrong if the time ever arose that i did end up competing then the bolt in cage would come out and be replaced with a weld in cage.
What sort of Bolt in cage do you want? This is for an FD correct??
The cost, similar to the link from Custom Cages, is determined by the number of bars you have. The cost is very little to have a single roll over hoop, to getting a full on cage. Are you intending to keep the interior?
Its for my project fc jon Just looking for a simple 6 point cage. Theres no interior in it ( other than dash) The car is only for a bit of track/drift fun:chat
Id be happy to do you a good deal on being the guineapig :)
Whats your budget? Be sensible with that answer...dont say 50p!
Havent really set a budget just cheaper the better:o to be honest with you been looking at how i can get one over from japland as there only £275 but if you want pm me what sort of deal your thinking of.
im sure if the price was right youd sell a reasonable amount of these
Im just looking for the same as lee ha said for my fc, probably just a rear cage
as shown below
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1724/16483017.jpg)
Can get them imported from japan for around £170 inc shipping, then looking at fitting after that
Car at the minute is a show car, but will get the odd usage ona track but nothing mental
Currentlly got a harness fitted which is already bolted to the floor plan so no need for a harness bar
I understand the process and the need for a fully fitted certified rll cage, but Im not going to be giving the car that sort of usage to require one
Interior wise, I would be happy to strip out if required as there are no point in the back seats anyway
To go up and above to get to a 6 point cage your looking at around £300 as above, however depending who u try to get it through there are limits with shipping etc due to parcel size
Rear cages have gone up for sale on here before for £180-£200 and have been snapped up within minutes
Im more than happy to spray it myself and get an experienced welder to fit who has had experience of cages previously
Just my opinion really
Just noticed srbpower do some for about £400 dont know if there website has current prices though
right if none of you have noticed the cages on ebay from japan will be scrap metal when they arrive as he states in the packaging part that the larger bars will be cut in half to save on shipping so no point in buying them
I think youll find thats why none of us have bought it already:Thumbsup!
I spoke to Lee at length yesterday about this, and if we can get 5 people together I will make a bolt in cage package together.
The standard cage will be a 6 point cage. There will be a few optional extras:
Harness Bar
Door bars
Powder coating
And we can fit the cages if you prefer.
I will get back today with a price, but it is going to be in the region of £500
Quote from: NeilSR;673312Im just looking for the same as lee ha said for my fc, probably just a rear cage
as shown below
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1724/16483017.jpg)
Can get them imported from japan for around £170 inc shipping, then looking at fitting after that
Car at the minute is a show car, but will get the odd usage ona track but nothing mental
Currentlly got a harness fitted which is already bolted to the floor plan so no need for a harness bar
I understand the process and the need for a fully fitted certified rll cage, but Im not going to be giving the car that sort of usage to require one
Interior wise, I would be happy to strip out if required as there are no point in the back seats anyway
To go up and above to get to a 6 point cage your looking at around £300 as above, however depending who u try to get it through there are limits with shipping etc due to parcel size
Rear cages have gone up for sale on here before for £180-£200 and have been snapped up within minutes
Im more than happy to spray it myself and get an experienced welder to fit who has had experience of cages previously
Just my opinion really
that cage in the pic would be perfect for my needs,