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General => General Technical => Wheels & Tyres, Suspension & Brakes => Topic started by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 12:53:56 PM

Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 12:53:56 PM
Well I was trying to be flash by using masking fluid on my newly painted front brake calipers, then I was to cut away the mask on the mazda writing and then paint the MAZDA in black leaving the rest of the caliper bright red, so to look very bling and trick etc :cool.

But nooooo nothing is that simple, I started to take the front nearside wheel off and two of the nuts were very stiff (only took it off last week to paint calipers and fit suspension) and 2 studs just sheared straight off :rolleyes: :eek: !!!!

I have managed to get the studs out, but will it be possible to put new studs in without having to remove the hub? Can I get these studs from anywhere or is it a Mazda specific part i need to order? and if so what is the part number if anyone knows it?

And to add insult to injury the masking fluid I\'ve used (for RC car shells etc) has set really hard and brittle and god knows how i\'m supposed to get it off:confused: not sure what idiot designed it or what they were thinking at the time, but it is so sticky it is just never gonna come off. Hopefully a bit of heat from breakng hard will make the compaont decompose otherwise at Rotorstock everyone can come around to look and laugh at my stupid looking calipers, lol

Thanks in advance for any help, Paul:)
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 12:55:39 PM
studs out!
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Christopher on May 09, 2004, 01:08:20 PM
Do you stand on the wrench when you do your nuts up :)

Always hand tighten otherwise thats what happens. Happend to my brothers twice.
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 01:29:18 PM
Nah they were very tight to come off the first time, but just thought they would loosen up after that and didn\'t want to put any copper slip on it. But they were just as tight as before this time round, think the threads were corroded and had bonded to one another. I should of cleaned them up last weekend, but I didn\'t :rolleyes: lesson learnt I feel:(

Paul:)
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: moakesr on May 09, 2004, 02:08:43 PM
Stud part number J00Y-33-062

Cost is 3.25 plus VAT each

Not sure if you can change them without removing the hub.

Good Luck,

Richard
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 02:22:41 PM
Thanks richard:)

Think I\'ll make em fit in without taking the hub off, where theres a will there a way:rollin ;)

Cheers, Paul
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: MikeLMR on May 09, 2004, 03:27:15 PM
if you can take them out you should be able to put them back surely ?  They are standard parts by the look of them so the local stealership should have a few in stock. I managed to change a couple on my 1st gen without taking the hub off (not that, that helps :D)

Mike
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: MikeLMR on May 09, 2004, 03:28:08 PM
in fact I have a couple of spares ... i\'ll go check the part number
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: MikeLMR on May 09, 2004, 03:30:56 PM
I think these ones are shorter - part No. 8595-26-113. was worth a try seeing as your only over at nottingham
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 03:31:46 PM
Well yeah the shorter sheared off bolts came out, so with a little luck the full length studs will go in without too much fuss. Like you say they look like a standard item, maybe your average joe tyre place will have some?, they\'ve got to have spares like that incase they shear one when removing a wheel etc!.

Cheers, Paul:)
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 03:38:14 PM
Thanks for looking Mike is greatly appreciated:). I\'m away all next week on a training course anyway, so Ill ring up Mazda during the week and order them in for next Saturday.

Thanks again, Paul
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: MikeLMR on May 09, 2004, 03:42:09 PM
might be worth a try if there are any open today ... Mazda should be able to sort you one pretty quick tho\'
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: antnicuk on May 09, 2004, 05:03:15 PM
I have used TW white Mazda dealers, they were very helpfull and dont give you grief about the fact it is an import.  They are quite happy to send things to you.  
If the studs are tight in the future, it might be worth popping down to your local garage and ask if they wouldnt mind zapping them with the air wrench as this is kinder on the stud when you are trying to undo it. Then nip it back up and drive home where you can paint your calipers again .    Also try coppereze on your studs before you put them back. It helps with undoing in the future.
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: MikeLMR on May 09, 2004, 05:10:12 PM
you shouln\'t use any lubricant on wheel studs as it can lead to them being overtightened. As long as they have been started by hand and tightened correctly you should never have a problem with them. The problems start when people mash the threads by spinning them on with an air gun without starting them first or the threads are damaged.
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 05:23:30 PM
Gordon Lamb in Notts are usually pretty good so i\'ll order them this week and tel you how I get on. Anyway have managed to get mot of the masking off now and it looks pretty Bling, even if I do say so myself, lol. Shame I can\'t drive it anywhere though:rolleyes:
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 09, 2004, 05:26:48 PM
Bling zoomed out ;)
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: rextreme on May 13, 2004, 02:23:49 AM
I would be ordering 20 studs.

If those two broke the others aint far behind.


Looks cool. :cool
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 17, 2004, 11:33:06 PM
All done, managed to use a pair of long nose pliers to aid with getting the studs in, bit tricky but got there in the end:)

Regards,

Paul
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: moakesr on May 18, 2004, 06:49:38 AM
Pleased to hear you got them in without dismantling everything.

Good news.

Cheers,

Richard
Title: Trying to be flash
Post by: Wav on May 18, 2004, 09:45:24 AM
Yeah I\'m glad I didn\'t have to take the whole hub off, I could see it turning into an epic journey involving more shearered bolts and rounded off nuts:rolleyes: so am very happy it is all back together:D

Just need to wire up my gauges, change the oil and my tailgate is booked in to be sprayed the Thursday before Rotorstock, so hopefully everything should be sorted for then:bandit

Here\'s a pic after fitting the new TEIN springs and a good clean;)