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Cars by Model Type => 2nd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: grinder on January 22, 2010, 10:17:41 AM

Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: grinder on January 22, 2010, 10:17:41 AM
I have decided to put this in the 2nd gen section - as we have always queried how many FC are still around ( although this will only show what made it to the MOT station )

it shows how many failed and how many passed - but i think if it fails it shows and then if it passes it shows

so you could have 20 fails and 20 passes - this could show a total of 20 cars - each failed and then passed

or it could be 40 cars - 20 failed and were taken away never to return and 20 passed no probs - so not sure how you would work it out ( there are some percentages if you were felling fancy and trying to work it out ) - or even taking it the next level - it might fail and then fail again - so thats 2 fail figures for one car .. OK .. my head hurts now

anyways here are the figures : ( pass first number - fail next number - failure rate next  )

1979   3   2   40.0%
1980   4   3   42.9%
1981   7   4   36.4%
1982   6   5   45.5%
1983   16   17   51.5%
1984   37   22   37.3%
1985   34   33   49.3%
1986   30   21   41.2%
1987   15   19   55.9%
1988   31   28   47.5%
1989   76   51   40.2%
1990   80   56   41.2%
1991   36   21   36.8%
1992   320   171   34.8%
1993   169   86   33.7%
1994   121   70   36.6%
1995   81   52   39.1%
1996   39   18   31.6%
1997   21   6   22.2%
1998   13   5   27.8%
1999   15   7   31.8%
2000   8   1   11.1%
2003   3   2   40.0%
2004   4   6   60.0%
2005   0   1   100.0%

( totals ) 1,169   708   37.7%

so at a guess we could take the figures from 86 - i think thats a C reg - which is a EGI ( but might included the FB ) - to 92 - which could also include the FD

51 + 34 + 59 + 127 + 136 + 57 + 491

so thats : 955

now looking at it - i would say that the 1992 figures include the FD

so maybe just taking the 87-91 we get : 413

not bad really.. BUT .. as i said - if it fails and then passes ( which my 1991 did ) then that will show in both columns
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: Prof on January 22, 2010, 10:47:33 AM
Interesting info - where you get that from ?
 
By the way - wouldn\'t the pre 92 figures also include the FB\'s ?
 
Would be really good to know just how many FC\'s are still on the road - and where they came from (UK, US, Japan or other) and how many Cab\'s verses Coupes
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: grinder on January 22, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
the ENTIRE list was published under some fredom of information act - just have a search for 2007 MOT on the net - its about a 4mb XLS with every car MOT\'d ( well in groups )

i only found out about it becuase bretts Montrose is on there with only 1 car passing and 1 car failing - he has the failure and the pass sheet for it ( hence we are guessing thats how it works )
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2010, 12:56:48 PM
Dunno about the fail figures but the pass figures have got to represent the total of running cars at the end of 2007?
The FB pass stats compared with my 1st Gen register figures show a reasonable comparison:-
I have 53 1st Gen runners in 2010, of which about 4 are track cars, not MOT\'d. So say 50.
The 2007 Mot shows 137 in total to end 1986, But remove about 20 of the 1986 cars as being FC\'s equals about 117.
Then I\'ve seen an alarming switch to SORN or broken from taxed and insured in the last few years from 2007. At least 40? (Can\'t extract that figure easily but not far off).
So thanks Stu.....I think it\'s saying there\'s just a few more out there I don\'t know about.....yet.
Off to check the MOT stats as your tip.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: grinder on January 22, 2010, 01:21:30 PM
happy hunting :D :D
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: Prof on January 22, 2010, 01:28:18 PM
does that mean the earliest reg on an FC is a D reg then ?
 
Think I\'ve actually seen one !:cool
 
BTW - latest reg I\'ve seen is a K reg !
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: grinder on January 22, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
i "think" i have seen a C reg FC - but not sure
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2010, 04:29:07 PM
I fairly sure 1st Aug 1986 was the Reg change, \'C\' to \'D\'.
I have 3 \'D\' reg FB\'s noted on and just after 1st Aug.

I seem to recall that the FC was launched before August, in the spring of \'86. So that would mean yes, there were \'C\' plate FC\'s, (if I\'m right about the launch date)?
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: J_T on January 22, 2010, 04:33:03 PM
Not sure what the rules are for imports but there will be no UK FDs in the figures until ~95 as we don\'t MOT cars until they are three years old.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2010, 05:15:11 PM
Yeh, but by 2007 all RX 7\'s are in the MOT test.

I fell for that assumption too whilst doing my own sums, then realised it\'s 2007 data that\'s recorded, so it\'s all car years 1st Reg 2004 and previous.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: J_T on January 22, 2010, 05:43:58 PM
Oh, so it\'s saying that almost 1900 rx7s were MOTd in 2007?  Gotcha.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: Brett on January 22, 2010, 05:57:49 PM
They are going to release the 08/09 info later this year :wave
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 24, 2010, 06:31:30 PM
First UK FC was built Jan 1986. VIN No. of this car was JMZFC132200100711

So yes, first FC\'s would be running round here as \'C\' plates, spring 1986.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: Brett on January 24, 2010, 07:21:18 PM
IIRC my dad had one of the first EGi\'s and that was a C reg :yes
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: Prof on January 24, 2010, 07:42:49 PM
Quote from: David Nock;667533First UK FC was built Jan 1986. VIN No. of this car was JMZFC132200100711
 
So yes, first FC\'s would be running round here as \'C\' plates, spring 1986.

I don\'t know why - but I thought the FC would have been realeased to coincide with the new reg - but that makes no real sense - just the way my mind sometimes works - lol.
 
So I\'m on the \'I spy\' for C plate 2nd gen\'s then :)
 
Presumably there might even be a chance of a 1st Gen with a D plate then (based on the fact I\'ve seen a K plated FC - which is a 92/93 and well into the first FD\'s being available.  It was on a vert though - and there hasn\'t been a factory roofless FD.
 
The report makes interesting reading when you look at the number of older cars preserved and passing MOT\'s - it seems that Jap and German marks along with prestige cars seem to be the more reliable statistically.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 25, 2010, 12:08:02 PM
In March 1986 \'Motor\' magazine did a road test on \'new RX7\'. The car in the article was C70 DKR. This was a red FC. Probably gone to make washing machines by now?

In the same mag a lot of dealers were advertising the car and some were offering test drives.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 25, 2010, 12:11:56 PM
Quote from: Prof;667552Presumably there might even be a chance of a 1st Gen with a D plate then (based on the fact I\'ve seen a K plated FC - which is a 92/93 and well into the first FD\'s being available.  It was on a vert though - and there hasn\'t been a factory roofless FD.
 

I know of 3 \'D\' Reg FB\'s, one is still taxed, one is on SORN and the 3rd was a spares car, last on DVLA 2000, probably scrapped by now.

:3gears-rh Go get them \'C\' plated FC\'s buddy.
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: Prof on January 25, 2010, 12:20:19 PM
Quote from: David Nock;667645In March 1986 \'Motor\' magazine did a road test on \'new RX7\'. The car in the article was C70 DKR. This was a red FC. Probably gone to make washing machines by now?
 
In the same mag a lot of dealers were advertising the car and some were offering test drives.

I have a feeling that\'s the one I\'ve seen on the discovery channel come to think about it - was in an old top gear or equivalent proggy.  I\'m off to go find the youtube of it....
Title: Number Of RX7\'s MOT\'d In 2007
Post by: Prof on January 25, 2010, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: David Nock;667645In March 1986 \'Motor\' magazine did a road test on \'new RX7\'. The car in the article was C70 DKR. This was a red FC. Probably gone to make washing machines by now?
 
In the same mag a lot of dealers were advertising the car and some were offering test drives.

Alas, it looks like that one demised back in 2000:
 

The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for C70 DKR are:

Date of Liability 01 02 2000
Date of First Registration 13 01 1986
Year of Manufacture 1986
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2292CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle  
6 Months Rate £104.50
12 Months Rate £190.00