I was watching this process on Sky yesterday. Looking at the kit on egay, I would say it would more than do the job. Think it was called how is it made, On discovery. Looks real simple just like the egay kit. Also think you could get the bolts from mazda. Keith
Possibly some help :
http://www.applegate.co.uk/all-industry/products/fasteners-zinc-plated-yellow-chromated-0025837.htm
Shaun
Somebody like this might be worth a call //www.zinc-platers.com/products.htm
If you weigh up how much the plating kit is and your time doing it compared to giving a bag of brand new fasteners to these guys and hey presto!!:Thumbs-up
Thanks for the above comments.
I thought about going to Mazda but I managed to get 100 taptites for £3.
I thought about the plating kit because there are a surprising number of small brackets within the engine bay, including the headlight raising mechs which are also gold passivated but in need of redoing so I thought maybe a kit would be a good idea.
I\'m still undecided at the moment though!
Quote from: Ian65;665024Thanks for the above comments.
I thought about going to Mazda but I managed to get 100 taptites for £3.
I thought about the plating kit because there are a surprising number of small brackets within the engine bay, including the headlight raising mechs which are also gold passivated but in need of redoing so I thought maybe a kit would be a good idea.
I\'m still undecided at the moment though!
Oh go on you know you want one.
Obviously i\'m not just saying that so I can get you to plate parts for me !
Quote from: myatt1972;665042Oh go on you know you want one.
Obviously i\'m not just saying that so I can get you to plate parts for me !
I\'ll practice on your car first then Keith, just in case they go all black and manky!
Now black and manky sounds good .......they will then match mine.........
Yes, black and manky.....the way forward.:2eek (Ian)...:Viking (Me)
I really fancied one of these kits as I wanted to give my engine bay an authentic, \'new\' look but they seemed a bit pricey at nearly 80 quid.
I then realised that I already had half the stuff...
Bucket, mask, goggles,gloves,wire, croc clips, battery charger, battery, acid pickle ( use brick acid instead).
So I just bought the chemicals I needed for about £30 and voila, instant zinc plating and yellow passivating kit.
I\'ve tried to take a few pics but they\'re a bit dark without the flash and too bright and reflective with the flash...
The engine bay...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/bay.jpg)
my refurbed headlight raising assembly...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/lightmotors.jpg)
This spanner is out of the RX7 tool kit. It was covered in rust and now looks like it\'s made of solid gold...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/spanner.jpg)
I\'m going plating crazy now!
Soixant neuf I hope.................but must say looks good....................
How long did it take per item mate? Looking good.
Tim
Step 1. I soaked each item in a solution of water and brick acid for about 15 - 20 minutes to clean them first.
This got rid of the old zinc plating and any rust. The front bumper bolts that were caked in rust came out like new after 20 mins. On contact with the air they start to rust again almost straight away so I then rinsed them well in clean water and put them into the zinc plating tank.
Step 2. It took about 20 minutes to zinc plate them. They came out nice and shiney silver but I wanted the yellow / gold passivated look.
Step 3. rinse the item again and then dip in a solution of yellow passivating for 2 minutes and they come out yellow / gold.
Really easy and you can plate as many items as you can fit in your tank, obviously the bigger the tank, the more items you can do at once.
I left each process to do whilst I worked on the car in the garage.
One thing I hate on old cars is frozen, rusty fixings and hopefully this will help prevent the fixings rusting up for a good while yet.
Some bolts and parts are easy to buy new but some are specific to the 1st gens so it\'s great to be able to restore them to new condition.
£30 well spent I reckon.
Excellent job done there Ian.:Thumbsup!
Hi Ian,
As you are doing a full restoration on your car I was wondering if you have come accross any products that will restore your silver castings back to that authentic from the factory look
When I mean castings I am refering to the alternator case, air feed hard pipes and plenum,, to give it that silver grey finnish.
I have read allsorts on different forums but mainly products in the states but nothing over here that I can see
Thanks
Hi Frank,
I haven\'t got that far yet but have been thinking about the best way to restore these parts. I prefer the factory look and so that rules out painting them, which to my mind never looks right and then eventually starts to flake off.
The only way I know of at the moment is bead blasting but this involves the total strip down of the part.
I\'ll let you know if I discover an easier way.
Quote from: Ian65;673789I\'m going plating crazy now!
Absolutely Marvellous matey.
Quote from: Ian65;673804Step 1. I soaked each item in a solution of water and brick acid for about 15 - 20 minutes to clean them first.
This got rid of the old zinc plating and any rust.
(picking your brains) Do you just drop any rusty item into this solution and it comes out minus any coatings and all rust is removed? Asking cause I have some items I dont want to shotblast and they are too intricate to use wire wheels etc
Quote from: Ian65;673789I really fancied one of these kits as I wanted to give my engine bay an authentic, \'new\' look but they seemed a bit pricey at nearly 80 quid.
I then realised that I already had half the stuff...
Bucket, mask, goggles,gloves,wire, croc clips, battery charger, battery, acid pickle ( use brick acid instead).
So I just bought the chemicals I needed for about £30 and voila, instant zinc plating and yellow passivating kit.
I\'ve tried to take a few pics but they\'re a bit dark without the flash and too bright and reflective with the flash...
The engine bay...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/bay.jpg)
my refurbed headlight raising assembly...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/lightmotors.jpg)
This spanner is out of the RX7 tool kit. It was covered in rust and now looks like it\'s made of solid gold...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/spanner.jpg)
I\'m going plating crazy now!
I dont suppose you still have some of the pics that are no longer here?
and where did you buy the chemicals?
any good links/videos to where you found good information?
i keep finding school kids doing pennys and not finding them particulay good watching lol
Quote from: Ian65;673789I really fancied one of these kits as I wanted to give my engine bay an authentic, \'new\' look but they seemed a bit pricey at nearly 80 quid.
I then realised that I already had half the stuff...
Bucket, mask, goggles,gloves,wire, croc clips, battery charger, battery, acid pickle ( use brick acid instead).
So I just bought the chemicals I needed for about £30 and voila, instant zinc plating and yellow passivating kit.
I\'ve tried to take a few pics but they\'re a bit dark without the flash and too bright and reflective with the flash...
The engine bay...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/bay.jpg)
my refurbed headlight raising assembly...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/lightmotors.jpg)
This spanner is out of the RX7 tool kit. It was covered in rust and now looks like it\'s made of solid gold...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/spanner.jpg)
I\'m going plating crazy now!
Here they are.... plus another of a few bits and pieces...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/bitsandpieces.jpg)
I got mine from here...
http://www.gaterosplating.co.uk/Zinc-Plating-kit.php
There\'s some good info on their website.
This is a similar kit...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zinc-Electroplating-Kit-Car-Bike-Motorcycle-Plating-/260677769243?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cb19b181b
Have a good look at what\'s included, some kits have you paying extra for a bucket and some gloves etc which you can buy cheaply from anywhere.
Ian did you just hang yours to dry in ambient tempature? or use a heatgun/ hairdryer on them?
I\'ve started mine,(god it tedious work, bored already!(only done about 10 nuts and bolts lol) i\'ve tried hanging them over a gas fire and the gold passivate dissapeared:-( so left them in the workshop tonight hanging in room temp so hopefully tomorrow i\'ll find out if its worked:-)
i dont know about these chemicals, what do the dead fish trees and scull and crossbones mean? the white powder is not a substitute for dry milk either,
rob
From what I remember talking to Ian the secret is raising the temperature of the solution with a fish tank heater or the like.
Im sure he will fill you in.
Keith...
I just leave mine to dry in the air Rob.
As Keith says. the key is to use warm water, both when plating and when passivating... a fish tank heater is ideal
cool i\'ll scour ebay and the local papers see whats about 2nd hand :-)