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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: darknight7777777 on September 12, 2009, 04:38:30 PM

Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: darknight7777777 on September 12, 2009, 04:38:30 PM
Was browsing the today and found 1993 RX7 Running a Skyline Engine at 876RWHP, its made by some crazy but bored american and up for sale.
 
heres the link
http://www.mashamoto-auctions.co.uk/japan_stock/mazda/rx7_rb26_power_876_rwhp_!/1993/fd3s/car_25038/ai-19614048/?lrg=800423
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: karl_tate on September 12, 2009, 05:03:31 PM
some time and money gone into that, not sure on the exterior of it though.

Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: Sidzrx on September 12, 2009, 05:03:57 PM
That looks like its a monster, like that bodykit as well.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: yehreally on September 12, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
ow much is that likely to sell for :Tongue1
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: m1tch on September 12, 2009, 05:29:49 PM
Why would you downgrade to a piston engine hehe :D If I were to do that I would at least put the HKS stroker kit into it lol
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: Red and Single on September 12, 2009, 07:37:58 PM
what a waste of an otherwise great car :)
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: m1tch on September 12, 2009, 07:54:41 PM
Quote from: Red and Single;640961what a waste of an otherwise great car :)

Its a bit like when people put V8s in them to make a V8-7

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/m1tch_2006/easywayout.jpg)

*is running really fast*
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: Pau1 on September 12, 2009, 08:22:10 PM
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e336/Superfa1/motivational%20posters/ls1rx7.jpg)
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: skybusr34 on September 12, 2009, 08:51:43 PM
i think the skybus engine is a brilliant lump. sat in a brilliant shell. dont see the problem.   different stokes different folks.

if i had the funds i`d have a single turbo rotary and one of them sat in my dream garage
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: turbo boy on September 12, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
Im warming to the idea of a hybrid rex, tho a 1jz would be cheaper. If my rex fails me again when its back on the road i`ll go hybrid.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: CharlieP on September 13, 2009, 08:07:42 AM
You might go to Rotary Hell for doing that!
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: m4drx on September 13, 2009, 12:10:31 PM
great power. shame it looks like a 4x4 chav monster truck.

dare i say it though - the RB26 is more unreliable than a ....el.

i like the idea of hybrids esp the 1jz and LS7s but that it because i fall under the not having "the balls to do it the right way"!! :p
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: turbo boy on September 13, 2009, 12:48:22 PM
Quote from: CharlieP;641038You might go to Rotary Hell for doing that!
Yeah i know but you gotta draw the line somewhere. I`ll always be a rotary purist, but if it breaks in the first few years back on the road i`ll go to the darkside! I won`t tell anyone and disguise the 1jz 6cyl sound with sounds of a fully bridge-ported 13b pumping out of my subs on high vollume! LOL
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: rx-dave on September 13, 2009, 01:18:42 PM
I\'ve just sent a blown RX7 FD3S to Poland and the chap is dropping a TT Supra lump into it. How would the handling be on that i wonder considering how light the 13B engine is and also how far it\'ll be sat back in the bay compared to the much longer 3000cc Sup engine??
Dave.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: russellparkerx on September 13, 2009, 01:28:24 PM
Yuck.  Why bother.  Must have spent silly money to produce a crazy fast car with a heavy front end.  Understeer a plenty.  Could have done 20b and had same power - but kept it special.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: m1tch on September 13, 2009, 01:39:46 PM
Quote from: russellparkerx;641080Yuck.  Why bother.  Must have spent silly money to produce a crazy fast car with a heavy front end.  Understeer a plenty.  Could have done 20b and had same power - but kept it special.

20B would have been WAY more powerful lol Might have made a 26b with that kind of money
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: JohnnyP on September 21, 2009, 04:48:10 PM
Now on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-Rx7-W-RB26-GTR-Skyline-Engine-GT-R-876-RWHP-FD3S_W0QQitemZ160364143276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item255672a2ac&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-Rx7-W-RB26-GTR-Skyline-Engine-GT-R-876-RWHP-FD3S_W0QQitemZ160364143276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item255672a2ac&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: rx-dave on September 22, 2009, 07:28:14 AM
I do like this car but i\'d prefer another Porsche Turbo for £35k :3gears-rh
Dave.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: carl0s on October 14, 2009, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: rx-dave;641078I\'ve just sent a blown RX7 FD3S to Poland and the chap is dropping a TT Supra lump into it. How would the handling be on that i wonder considering how light the 13B engine is and also how far it\'ll be sat back in the bay compared to the much longer 3000cc Sup engine??
Dave.

Have you weighed a TT 13b ? I removed mine and the engine with all its ancilliaries (turbo bits etc.) weighs a frickin\' tonne. One thing it\'s not is light.

Prob with the 2JZ is that it\'s cast iron so weighs more than, and is 50% longer than the other option, e.g. all-alloy LSx, and as for how far back the LSx sits:

(http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg354/93silverbullet/Engine%20Finished/IMG_1927.jpg)

2jz is a great engine. I have one in my TT sup, and my last TT sup too, but I\'m liking the LS2 a lot.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: carl0s on October 15, 2009, 12:01:43 AM
Ooops. Looks like I resurected a historic thread. I was using the search engine ..
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: carl0s on October 15, 2009, 12:02:20 AM
.. double post
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: rx-dave on October 15, 2009, 08:30:54 AM
Quote from: carl0s;648112Have you weighed a TT 13b ? I removed mine and the engine with all its ancilliaries (turbo bits etc.) weighs a frickin\' tonne. One thing it\'s not is light.
 
Prob with the 2JZ is that it\'s cast iron so weighs more than, and is 50% longer than the other option, e.g. all-alloy LSx, and as for how far back the LSx sits:
 
(http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg354/93silverbullet/Engine%20Finished/IMG_1927.jpg)
 
2jz is a great engine. I have one in my TT sup, and my last TT sup too, but I\'m liking the LS2 a lot.

I haven\'t weighed one lately if i\'m honest! The Supra engine must weigh twice as much and as you pointed out is longer so it sits much further forward so i\'d have  thought the handling would be pretty poor? All that said i still love the GTR engined RX7 :burnout
Dave.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: Timmy on October 15, 2009, 09:42:58 AM
A 13brew is about 180kgs and a 2jzgte is about 260kgs thats almost 50% more; not to mention the weight is much further fowards.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: BlitzBoy on October 15, 2009, 10:06:49 AM
158 kilos for a fully dressed 13rew btw
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: BlitzBoy on October 15, 2009, 10:11:02 AM
Although some guys in Oz say a fully dressed 13b rew is 148 kilos
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: overboost on October 19, 2009, 01:15:08 AM
I don\'t really see the problem of putting a great relible engine into a well balanced FR sports car. It is a shame Nissan didn\'t make a Silvia with an RB26 anyway. Hell I even thought about putting a RB26 in my E46 M3 but just adding the list of parts and their cost gives me a huge headache.
 
Hybrid creates some amazing cars:
 
K20A Elise;
B18C Mini;
F20C AE86 or E36;
V12 R34;
etc etc etc...
 
I am actually glad some one had the balls and money to do it. After all we all want our cars to be a little bit special. That\'s why companies like Top Secret often do some strange \'down grade\'  engine swaps like 3S-GTE Supra and VQ35 GTR.
 
The only thing I don\'t like about this car is: why do the yankees feel necessary to put the cheating gas on every single otherwise prefect car?
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: carl0s on October 24, 2009, 01:22:13 AM
Quote from: Timmy;648142A 13brew is about 180kgs and a 2jzgte is about 260kgs thats almost 50% more; not to mention the weight is much further fowards.

So the solution is an LS2 V8 :driving
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: SiH on October 24, 2009, 07:43:53 AM
Quote from: overboost;648832I don\'t really see the problem of putting a great relible engine into a well balanced FR sports car.

There isn\'t at all.
But putting an RB26 into an FD isn\'t that :D

The RB can be pretty highly strung, and the wieght districution of the block is nowhere near what it is with the 13b. You take out a low slung, short engine, an replace it with a long, heavier engine that has to be mounted higher and further forward.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: russellparkerx on October 24, 2009, 02:35:59 PM
Clearly the Americans wouldn\'t know why this is a bad idea.  No corners.
 
Why was the FD RX7 special?
 
Not least because...
 
1. VERY light
2. Rotary technology
3. Sequential turbos
4. Great weight distribution (engine behind the front axle etc)
 
So which of these factors remains once you\'ve stuck an RB26 in?
 
None.
 
But a properly converted 20b?  With the shortened driveshaft and proper revised geometry?
 
All.
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: SiH on October 25, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Quote from: russellparkerx;649873Clearly the Americans wouldn\'t know why this is a bad idea.  No corners.
 
Why was the FD RX7 special?
 
Not least because...
 
1. VERY light

Bit of a common misconception this one - it\'s not actually super light - it\'s the same sort of weight as a lot of it\'s peers :)

It\'s where the weight is that is the key part - low and far back, as you say :)
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: paul on October 25, 2009, 08:16:13 AM
Yep was on ebay people bidding on her got up to around £13,000 reserve not met didnt sell. Put back on ebay for buy it now for some thing like £35,000 dont think it sold plus it was a left hooker
Title: Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!
Post by: russellparkerx on October 25, 2009, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: SiH;649977Bit of a common misconception this one - it\'s not actually super light - it\'s the same sort of weight as a lot of it\'s peers :)
 
It\'s where the weight is that is the key part - low and far back, as you say :)

Clearly it\'s peers were the R32, the Supra twin turbo and the NSX - compared to which it was very light.