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General => General Technical => Anything Engine/Performance/Tuning related => Topic started by: Ada7 on September 03, 2009, 06:04:43 PM

Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: Ada7 on September 03, 2009, 06:04:43 PM
I\'m going to be taking out the engine next week and seeing as i\'ve never done it before was wondering if you need an special tools for the job?
Got a socket set and screw drivers. hopefully picking up an enginhe crane on saturday also.
Anything else i\'ll need? :confused::xconfused:confused:

Adam
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: probedb on September 03, 2009, 06:11:19 PM
Are you going to be removing that 54mm bolt that I can\'t remember the purpose of? You\'ll need a 54mm socket for that :)
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: Nik da Greek on September 03, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
The 52mm nut is on the flywheel isn\'t it? Hopefully we don\'t need to furkle around with that. I\'ll bring along a load of stuff with me, Adman. Got some stout breaker bars for you to get Herculesian with :rollin. Also have a proper paper workshop manual that may prove of some use ;)


EDIT...thinking about it, isn\'t it a 54 mm nut anyway?

Edit agian, you said 54mm in the first place, ignore me, I\'m being a spazz.
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: Ada7 on September 03, 2009, 06:18:41 PM
Ahh so all i need then is a Nik! :D
Thanks matey :Thumbs-up

Adam
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: davehg on September 03, 2009, 07:15:41 PM
what you taking it out for chap? i have a good engine with compression results for sale if your interested? feel free to txt or call me 07709136667
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: Ada7 on September 04, 2009, 07:44:44 AM
The water seals on on their way out so getting it re done. Is your\'s a 99 model engine?

Adam
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: davehg on September 04, 2009, 07:53:55 AM
no although the blocks are identical i believe... give carl hayward a call to verify....
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: Ada7 on September 04, 2009, 07:58:21 AM
Dont really know myself. I\'m keeping my fingers crossed that it\'ll just be the water seals and maybe some springs that need replacing so shouldnt cost me much to get sorted.
Thanks anyway :D

Adam
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: SiH on September 04, 2009, 08:02:29 AM
I took mine out with jsut a sicket set, spanner (17mm IIRC? For the engine mounts) and a crane. And 3 mates :D

Have you started costing it yet? While mine\'s out, I\'m tempted to strip, port, and re-seal, but am loathed to tear down a perfectly working engine!
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: m1tch on September 04, 2009, 08:29:45 AM
I thought the flywheel was a 54mm? unless thats only for an FC? I ordered a 54mm and they sent out a 58mm socket by mistake hehe its on my desk right now, tis fab for using as a phone holder :D
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: karl_tate on September 04, 2009, 11:11:42 AM
i would advise slackening the subframe bolts off so that it drops down ever so slightly as i had problems with the engine mounts fowling.
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: SiH on September 04, 2009, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: karl_tate;639449i would advise slackening the subframe bolts off so that it drops down ever so slightly as i had problems with the engine mounts fowling.

I had that too - ended up undoing the main bolts that go through the subby, lifting the engine a bit, then undoing the bolts that hold the engine mounts to the block, and taking the mounts off. Gave me a shedload of clearance :)
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: karl_tate on September 04, 2009, 12:34:10 PM
i struggled to get the mounts off for ages, bloody things :(

the next time the engine came out i just undid the 3 bolts at either side but not completely taking them off, then with a pry bar either side, making the subframe that little bit lower and the whole lot just popped out :yes
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: Prof on September 04, 2009, 12:49:37 PM
If the engine is going off to someone, then the 2 most awful nuts are staying on ;) - that\'s your flywheel nut (big one) and the one at the front in the centre of the pulley stack - both of those require a massive amount of torque to shift - a couple of big blokes on the end of 6 foot of bar with 3/4 or 1 inch drives and hex sockets will usually get them moved :Thumbs-up
 
Other than that - get yourself some duck oil or plus gas - to free up any awkward bolts / nuts - normal socket set is all you\'ll need - but if you get stuck for any tools give us a shout - I\'m collecting a growing toolset for these jobs now - have a transmission jack if you\'re taking the gearbox out, but it won\'t support the engine weight. I think you can just undo the engine from the gearbox and leave that in situ.
 
Cheers,
 
Prof.
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: Jim_rx7 on September 05, 2009, 03:37:59 PM
Socket set and a crane is really all you need.

I\'ve done it 3 times now.

Last time the engine was wedged in somehow, not sure what on. Possibly an engine mount? All of a sudden it came flying up after a heap of wiggling.

I think it\'s an arse pain is it gets stuck on the gbox and some other bits. Sometimes it\'s a complete doddle, other times it takes alot of swearing!

Putting it back in is just as much of a pain in the arse! Rebuilding it is less hassle than removing and fitting the engine!!
Title: Tools for engine removal
Post by: slingo on September 06, 2009, 12:11:27 PM
sorry to hear this adam ! If you get a tilt tool with the crane i would take the engine and box out together,this might seem a little crazy but it only takes 5 mins to prep gearbox for removal and it makes it so easy when putting the unit back in,also ease\'s the clutch alighnment
 
hope this helps