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General => General Technical => Anything Engine/Performance/Tuning related => Topic started by: antnicuk on April 27, 2004, 11:03:55 PM

Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: antnicuk on April 27, 2004, 11:03:55 PM
If we are to get in the 11\'s, then this would seem the way to go, as long as it is safe!  Does anyone have any knowledge or technical info about Nos on a rotary.
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: Gman on April 27, 2004, 11:13:20 PM
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5566&highlight=NOS
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: Timrxmotors on April 28, 2004, 09:40:41 PM
Yes,I know a bit about NOS on a rotary,but it\'s all secret!
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: maximtaylor on April 28, 2004, 11:41:19 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Timrxmotors
Yes,I know a bit about NOS on a rotary,but it\'s all secret!

Which is why you mentioned it Tim ;)

You are a tease :rollin

But the way you are going, it\'ll get an 11 second run with it!

Max
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: davefrith on April 29, 2004, 09:06:24 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gman
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5566&highlight=NOS

So according to that guy NOS on a turbo rotary is a very bad idea.

Is anyone actually running NOS ?
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: iiyama on April 29, 2004, 05:44:48 PM
They were using NOS on a rotary in \'The Fast and Furious\' so surly its safe to fit??  :rollin

Ian
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: davefrith on April 29, 2004, 05:45:34 PM
anyone got Vin\'s number then ?
 :)
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: iiyama on April 29, 2004, 05:49:56 PM
Dont be silly, hes only and actor!!! You need to tap up the owner of the red FD in question! Maybe getting hold of the film company will yield better results!!

Ill get me coat now!! :D
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: davefrith on April 29, 2004, 05:50:52 PM
:rollin :D
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: rx7aberdeen on May 01, 2004, 11:37:37 AM
ive heard that nitrous on a turbo is not a good idea let alone on the rotary engine, there is a company called nx that offers a nitrous intercooler kit which can increase the power about 50 hp purely by spraying nos straight onto the intercooledr, cooling the charge air loads!  that is the only kit i would suggest on the rotary because it wont put anymore strain on the engine!  regards dave
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: MintyFresh on May 01, 2004, 03:42:28 PM
it does the same on all cars its on.  decreases engine life, increases engine wear, makes car go faster :D

i say bigger the engine, safer the nos, and 1.3 aint that big.
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: gilbert on May 03, 2004, 12:18:55 AM
NOS is for dragging. You can use it on a road car but if you press the button all the time you engine will go bang. That stands for a 1.3 or a 5L V8. NOS is works very well if the system is well set up, you can have wet mixture NOS that adds extra fuel so detonation is not so much of a problem. I have seen NOS on various turbo cars. Just about to fit a direct port NOS system to our Skyline and thats got 2 turbos.
:cool :cool  :3gears-lh
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: Sean on May 04, 2004, 03:48:10 PM
I did some readin on this a while ago. From what I learned Wet nitrous is for turbo cars, dry nitrous is for for N/A cars and the larger the cc the longer the engine life expectancy. However it\'ll kill any engine quicker than normall

If this is a load of bollox, please feel free to erase this nonsense!
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: JayDee on May 04, 2004, 03:58:26 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by rx7aberdeen
ive heard that nitrous on a turbo is not a good idea let alone on the rotary engine, there is a company called nx that offers a nitrous intercooler kit which can increase the power about 50 hp purely by spraying nos straight onto the intercooledr, cooling the charge air loads!  that is the only kit i would suggest on the rotary because it wont put anymore strain on the engine!  regards dave

Is this on a car with good intercooling? I think some of the nos must have found its way into the intake.

Jason
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: gilbert on May 04, 2004, 06:27:30 PM
The system actully uses carbon dioxide (CO2) to spray on to the intercooler. It is a nitrous free system.

You can use the purge soleniod to do the same thing if you have NOS. Just before you make a run on the stip, it does the same job as the CO2.

The reson for the hp increase is the cooler the charge air temp the denser the air will be which gives you a better combustion. This is why you allways run good track times on a cool day.
QuoteOriginally posted by JayDee
Is this on a car with good intercooling? I think some of the nos must have found its way into the intake.

Jason
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: iiyama on May 04, 2004, 08:45:42 PM
Just to add my ten penneth......

if your getting another 50 horses from the engine, regardless of how you get it, your putting more strain somewhere! :(

Ian
Title: Does anyone know about Nitrous on a Rotary
Post by: gilbert on May 05, 2004, 12:20:59 AM
Just a quick point,  
Every one is always so concerned with strain on the engine through NOS in both the world of piston engines and rotary engines. All moding of engines will reduce life, to gain you need to loose.
The thing is that a well mapped and set up Turbo engine with NOS will cause no problems at all.
The problem is that it all comes at a price £££, both in cost and engine life.
The thing is the more you spend the more engine life will improve due to abillity to set the system up to its optimun level. The only thing is this cost in both parts, labour and dyno time.
To get things perfect you could spend over £1500 - £2000 just on sum form of dynoing. This is for a run in engine and full system set up.
The way I see it is that if you have just spent £5000.00 on you engine then another £1500 is not that much for a good set up on you new baby.