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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 12:21:45 PM

Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 12:21:45 PM
well we and a few mates where planning on going out today to take some photos of are cars!
 
about 10.30 i set off to go to Halfords to top up on my cleaning products and on the way back i pulled into a lay-by to make sure my car was running okay, so when i was stopped i put it in LO boost (0.7) i set off doing a lil burn out and Bang then engine is now running like a bag of ....e!
 
i have had the intercooler pipes off and back on and had a look around the engine bay for some sort of pipe that may have came off but nothing! it is running like it has a massive bride port on idle and stays the same through out the revs so i think i need another rebuild!
 
also another thing the past couple of days of trying to start it, it was taking 3 attempts of turning the key and when it did start to tick over it was running like a bag of dog poo, popping and banning and lumpy idle and the heat light was on along with the water reading not showing on the commander then after about 5-10 mins of driving they would go off at the same time! and the car would drive fine!
 
the car still has warranty at Silverstone motor sport (Lindop) but i am thinking of doing it myself!
 
another sad day!
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: m4drx on August 23, 2009, 02:16:35 PM
if it was already struggling to start it should have been obvious it was going to go. why would you rebiuld it yourself if its under warrenty mate?
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: dthebuk on August 23, 2009, 02:39:10 PM
sounds like it went due to ancillaries rather than a duff engine
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 02:42:05 PM
yeah i know but i thought it was to do with a low bat? as once it was it was running it was fine, and started fine when warm!
 
and because i can not be arssed with all the hassel of going to wales and paying for train and am sure some how i will have to pay for something else that has gone wrong on the engine as that always seems to happen too!
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 02:44:37 PM
Quote from: dthebuk;636926sounds like it went due to ancillaries rather than a duff engine

 
what you mean mate? non of the work has been done by me like! and everything in the engine bay is new! and i mean everything!
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: dthebuk on August 23, 2009, 03:54:34 PM
No matter how good your engine, if your cooling or fueling system fail, its a gonner
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Post by: Timmy on August 23, 2009, 04:22:33 PM
You say you had problems with the signals showing on watertemp, this was the suspected cause of my car chipping a tip.
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Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: dthebuk;636940No matter how good your engine, if your cooling or fueling system fail, its a gonner

 
nah i dont have any issue with the cooling or fuel ( as i know of ), the cooling system was working spot on, intercooler and water, apart from that light and no reading on the commander! so unsure why they came up (only on start up)!
 
anyways the car is as of now gettin stripped of engine and body work as it was going to get a make over anyways!
 
atleast i can paint my engine bay the same colour as the car now :D
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 04:38:19 PM
Quote from: Timmy;636950You say you had problems with the signals showing on watertemp, this was the suspected cause of my car chipping a tip.

did you fine out why that was mate?
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Post by: Timmy on August 23, 2009, 06:50:10 PM
because it was reading hot when cold or coled when hot or something and decided to run lean.
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Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 07:56:20 PM
okay no bother mate!
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Post by: tommy18 on August 23, 2009, 08:00:36 PM
i could be way off ,but on my first rex i had a simular problem and thought i was in for a rebuild but it turned to be a small pipe had popped of a sensor.
hope this works!!
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5907&highlight=tomrex
 
tom
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 08:03:46 PM
okay bud i will go and have a look at that now!
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Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 08:10:13 PM
mate your a star! i have just been out to the car and there is a lil bit a pipe still on it but then it gos to nothing! just need to find where it gos to?
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: neil_jdmr on August 23, 2009, 08:19:20 PM
Not again mate, really feel for ya, Hope its not another rebuild and something much less annoying instead.
 
If it is tho at least your covered by the warranty mate as sod\'s law would be kaboom just out of warranty and a full seal kit isnt cheap anyway.
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 08:21:49 PM
yeah i think it was going to cost £750 for a master rebuild kit mate lol!
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Post by: tommy18 on August 23, 2009, 08:25:45 PM
is it sorted??
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Post by: neil_jdmr on August 23, 2009, 08:26:09 PM
The map sensor vac pipe plugs onto a nipple on the firewall side of the tb/uim iirc mate.
 
Sounds like you may have had an absolute bonus there mate, You deserve a bit of rotary luck.
 
Fingers crossed for ya
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Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 08:44:34 PM
unsure if its sorted as i have took intercooler and rad off to give them and there mounts a clean!
 
yeah i have just been out and seen the pipe down the back of the engine! no form of clips have been used tho so will probs put some on!
 
yeah i know i do Neil had nothing but poo with this car lol!
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 08:46:00 PM
i still dont think this will stop the heat light and water reading tho!
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Post by: trotter on August 23, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
The heat light was only a warning that the cat was too hot i thought? If you don\'t have a cat then I wouldnt worry about it - in the hot weather recently mine has been on quite a bit

If you have a PFC then it is used as a knock warning, but it flashes for that.
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Post by: ENVYD on August 23, 2009, 09:26:52 PM
nah i dont have a cat mate! unsure what was done when lindop fitted the ecu! so will ask them tomoro!
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Post by: neil_jdmr on August 23, 2009, 10:46:32 PM
The pfc has two warning fuctions set to on from standard,
 
1) is the knock (as mentioned) heat light flashes in three quick intervals
2) is max injector duty (over 98%) and flashing in single quick flashes
 
Both functions can be turned off but both are only warnings and do not affect the map on the car.
 
Worth checking the commander plug mate as this can start pulling out and iirc the first sign is the water reading shows --. Deffo sounds ecu related to me though if it all fixes itself when the car warms up, as certain criteria gets met once warm so that the map runs at the "normal operating temp" settings as opposed to warm up parameters(higher idle/running rich etc).
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: ENVYD on August 24, 2009, 04:47:08 PM
ah okay mate, well its defo not any of them warning functions!
 
i have not had time today to ring lindop today so will try and ring them tomoro! i hope when i put it all back together it works lol!
Title: ....y ....ing rex!
Post by: tiger18 on August 25, 2009, 01:44:48 AM
Looks like you in for some luck mate,,,common problem that once the map sensor pipe comes off the car runs like ....,,,i bet it starts right up once its all back together and map sensor pipe is re-attached.
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Post by: gsb876 on August 25, 2009, 01:53:38 AM
very lucky if its just the map sensor, but with the map sensor unplugged car will idle very badly and very lumpy.

Once you reattach it should sound normal, if not theres another issue sadly
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Post by: ENVYD on August 25, 2009, 05:54:40 PM
lol yeah i hope it sorts it mate!
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Post by: Bobbit on August 25, 2009, 09:25:11 PM
You need a hand bud? I\'m off tomorrow and can pop over if you like?
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Post by: ENVYD on August 25, 2009, 10:00:44 PM
am at work all week mate, thanks anyways! got all the bits out the engine bay to shine them all back up lol!
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Post by: Bobbit on August 26, 2009, 12:15:50 PM
Why am i not surprised! lol.
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Post by: ENVYD on August 26, 2009, 06:21:51 PM
lol its got to be done mate!