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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: AtomicRex on July 31, 2009, 06:21:40 PM

Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: AtomicRex on July 31, 2009, 06:21:40 PM
Well here at Head Quarters we have been busy on the wing mirror front. So we have the first of a couple of concepts to hopefully take to conception..they are totally built from scratch and are original products.
 
So Concept No1 is below. What do you think?
 
We haven\'t put a mirror in it as yet as it is still at conceptual level..and I would like to get peoples thoughts first.
 
I have tried to keep the rotary theme, but without making it too prominent for fear of it looking tacky.
 
So over to you guys...hopefully this will be as constructive as last time :)
 
(http://www.atomicrex.co.uk/downloads/Carbon%20Products/Rotor%20Design/IMG_0205.JPG)
 
(http://www.atomicrex.co.uk/downloads/Carbon%20Products/Rotor%20Design/IMG_0206.JPG)
 
(http://www.atomicrex.co.uk/downloads/Carbon%20Products/Rotor%20Design/IMG_0207.JPG)
 
(http://www.atomicrex.co.uk/downloads/Carbon%20Products/Rotor%20Design/IMG_0208.JPG)
 
(http://www.atomicrex.co.uk/downloads/Carbon%20Products/Rotor%20Design/IMG_0209.JPG)
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: DR SCHNITZEL on July 31, 2009, 08:03:43 PM
To be honest mate i think thats \'orrible. Might look good on a complete car tho. No offence
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: Skifledanabit on July 31, 2009, 08:15:17 PM
Personally, i think you\'ll be doing no favours, go for aerodynamics over style, I\'m pretty sure people will buy some if they are proven to be aerodynamic
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: Kevin on July 31, 2009, 08:30:57 PM
I think this has potential Jon.  It does look more unique and better than the last mirror.

This is my personal opinion about what I would do with it.  I would try and have one stalk to the mirror that finishes straight into the high point of the back of the rotor shape, instead of two M3 style stalks.  Secondly I would try and make the mirror slightly shallower in side profile if possible.  But thats just my opinion. ;)

Shot looking from the back to the front looks excellent though. :)
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: AshRX on July 31, 2009, 08:31:48 PM
got to admit with the others, they look terrible
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: Jono FD3 on July 31, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
not a fan I\'m afraid matey.... think it might be better to throw a load of ideas down on paper in sketch form & put them up rather than spend alot of time making a concept modle??

Just my thoughts matey ;) if you want... I could have a play with a few ideas??

Jono
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: FDAsh on July 31, 2009, 10:33:46 PM
Hillman Imp in the background? :D

I think the proportions need some work. Pull the front corner into the corner of the window, and round the thing off some more. The FD doesn\'t like sharp edges lol.

My advice would be to take a look at highend bike mirrors, like this one:

(http://image.automotive.com/f/features/17045848+soriginal/146_0903_07_z+2009_ducati_1198+mirror.jpg)

...and develop it from there. At the moment the front of the mirror seems to pull outwards and will make the car look boss-eyed. Go for a single strong support over multiple ones, leading directly into the front point.

I\'ve no Alias or scanner at the moment, but can try something in Photoshop over the weekend.
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: AtomicRex on July 31, 2009, 11:49:42 PM
We have another one in the making at the mo

maybe the single arm is better than the double

I don\'t think the photo does it justice unfortunately it does look good in the flesh. But I am grateful for the feedback thus far :)

yes it is an imp in the background. Haven\'t yet convinced him to let us put a rotary in yet ;-)
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: davyv on August 01, 2009, 12:34:19 AM
Are those my doors Jon:)
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: Nik da Greek on August 01, 2009, 01:04:46 AM
It\'s not very reflective for a mirror, is it? :confused: :D

Better than the spaniel\'s ear shaped last one, but still not for me. Sorry :(
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: Laeeq on August 01, 2009, 01:08:38 AM
I think these will look good mounted upwards on 2 bars in oem position rather then on triangle.  i like them:Thumbs-up
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: steve garbutt on August 01, 2009, 01:40:13 AM
well i formone thinik you are doing marvellous work.
weather we like it or not i still think you are doing some fantastic work.
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: AtomicRex on August 01, 2009, 08:25:03 AM
Quote from: davyv;631219Are those my doors Jon:)

They are similar!
 
When are you thinking of coming down?
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: AtomicRex on August 01, 2009, 08:35:23 AM
Quote from: Jono FD3;631188not a fan I\'m afraid matey.... think it might be better to throw a load of ideas down on paper in sketch form & put them up rather than spend alot of time making a concept modle??
 
Just my thoughts matey ;) if you want... I could have a play with a few ideas??
 
Jono

We are sketching them first...but what looks good on paper isn\'t transferring across to reality :(
 
Quote from: FDAsh;631198Hillman Imp in the background? :D
 
I think the proportions need some work. Pull the front corner into the corner of the window, and round the thing off some more. The FD doesn\'t like sharp edges lol.
 
My advice would be to take a look at highend bike mirrors, like this one:
 
(http://image.automotive.com/f/features/17045848+soriginal/146_0903_07_z+2009_ducati_1198+mirror.jpg)
 
...and develop it from there. At the moment the front of the mirror seems to pull outwards and will make the car look boss-eyed. Go for a single strong support over multiple ones, leading directly into the front point.
 
I\'ve no Alias or scanner at the moment, but can try something in Photoshop over the weekend.

I would be grateful to you both if you are able to sketch some designs.
 
In fact this is open to anyone....I will make the winning version and then send you the first version in Carbon or to a colour of your choice.
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: ashc on August 01, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
Actually i quite like those, potential there - and it makes a refreshing change from the tiny rectangular ones like the craftsquare type everyone seems to like at the moment which i hate!! Keep up the UK FD aftermarket design & development guys, it is much appreciated!! I\'m saving up for one of your steering racks at the moment!
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: davyv on August 01, 2009, 08:03:48 PM
Quote from: AtomicRex;631232They are similar!
 
When are you thinking of coming down?

Very busy at the moment but will find time soon.
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: ssn11 on August 02, 2009, 07:51:50 PM
a like them alot mate
 
 
sean
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: jackaleks on August 03, 2009, 09:19:45 AM
i think they\'d look really good if they were a bit slimmer and at less of an acute angle to the A Pillar.
 
although, if it were legal i\'d remove my side mirrors altogether and smooth up the holes :rolleyes:
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: BenLewisMav on August 04, 2009, 10:43:12 PM
Once again thanks for comments (all of them).
For those who didn\'t mention why, what was it that didn\'t agree with them?;
the concept (-didn\'t like it being rotor shaped)?
or specifics (e.g. size, position/angle to body, etc)?

[Please also remember that the finish will be carbon fibre, the yellow/black colour split was only to help illustrate shape]

The general opinion was;
1. 1 single strut instead of 2
2. Central mounting point
3. Thinner side profile/shallower housing

so...
FROM:
(http://www.atomicrex.co.uk/downloads/Carbon%20Products/Rotor%20Design/IMG_0207.JPG)
TO:
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5185/arpmirror1.jpg)

Also cheers Jono and Ash for your additional suggestions, interestly enough the prototype I\'ve been working on more recently is bike mirror-esque.. It\'s a lot more aggresive (angular/sharp). It\'s more suitable for aggresively styled modified RX7\'s, not so much the smooth curves of a standard car. It\'s been a real... challenge so far bringing it to life and trying it from every angle.

And to Laeeq, I will look into putting the designs in the standard position -is this something you think would look good specifically on this design, or do you prefer the standard position in general?
I feel a poll coming on... :D
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: ghostjd on August 04, 2009, 11:57:42 PM
I quite like them, but them I\'m a little bias cos I\'ve been looking into something similar, although the rotor shape was positioned 90 degrees clockwise and tried to mount it in the original position (on the doors) but I couldn\'t get it to look right and I was using dense stydrophone as my plug but then came the problem of mounting the mirror (mirrored acrylic as its easy to shape).  Alas didn\'t finish it but do have some of the plugs in the garage.
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: gsb876 on August 05, 2009, 12:21:19 AM
That design mounted on the wing would look well cool imho :cheers
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: lee mills on August 05, 2009, 05:47:36 PM
Quote from: gsb876;632050That design mounted on the wing would look well cool imho :cheers

Agreed.........
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: Swanny_UK on August 06, 2009, 03:27:29 AM
Good on you for throwing some ideas into the mix, its good to see people in the UK pushing for new parts, and while I think that the current prototype needs work, some of the suggestions could make it look spot on.  I for one would like to see a design come from the OE mounting position...
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: lee mills on October 11, 2009, 11:58:43 AM
what about some like these
(http://www.rhdjapan.com/images/product/57105/Image/Normal/Image1.jpg)
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: Oliver on October 11, 2009, 03:30:35 PM
Maybe just reduce the size and in someway try to keep the rotary shape?
Title: AtomicRex Wing Mirror \'Rotor\' Design
Post by: ENVYD on October 11, 2009, 03:53:12 PM
^^^ i like that, but it would have to be in the middle of the platform.