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Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: CharlieP on July 29, 2009, 05:45:07 PM
Hi all!!

Got a couple of questions-

Downpipe- I\'ve bought a Feed Downpipe and Silenced De-Cat.....now what are the gains from a downpipe? Are they worth the possible hassle that could arise from removal!? (I\'ve got a fairly std twin turbo)

Turbo- if I block up the std BOV, will I get the chatter noise!? (http://www.fduk.org/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
And would this be how a single works with no dump valve?
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Rzla on July 29, 2009, 06:07:00 PM
Just go singleeeee lol
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: CharlieP on July 29, 2009, 06:09:51 PM
Noooo! Love twins!:3gears-rh
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: AshRX on July 29, 2009, 06:14:57 PM
do you really want me to answer that about your downpipe Charles???
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: CharlieP on July 29, 2009, 06:22:57 PM
Quote from: AshRX;630558do you really want me to answer that about your downpipe Charles???

Say something constructive! :Tongue1
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: AshRX on July 29, 2009, 06:24:34 PM
Yes change it. You will notice a difference straight away. The stock downpipes are ....e and so restrictive. If you are gonna do it make sure Jay maps it straight after
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: kevint on July 29, 2009, 06:27:25 PM
Quote from: CharlieP;630550Downpipe- I\'ve bought a Feed Downpipe and Silenced De-Cat.....now what are the gains from a downpipe? Are they worth the possible hassle that could arise from removal!? (I\'ve got a fairly std twin turbo)

I added a Feed downpipe, Racing Beat back box and kept my stock cat, went from 217atw to 253 atw.

Kevin
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: CharlieP on July 29, 2009, 06:33:01 PM
I\'m convinced then :D
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: CharlieP on July 29, 2009, 06:33:50 PM
Quote from: AshRX;630560Yes change it. You will notice a difference straight away. The stock downpipes are ....e and so restrictive. If you are gonna do it make sure Jay maps it straight after

Dont worry, the infamous one :evillaugh will do what he does best once the changes have been made :driving
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: AshRX on July 29, 2009, 06:43:45 PM
literally drive straight to him of boost to him once fitted
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: ashc on July 29, 2009, 07:37:51 PM
also a less restrictive exhaust system means heat can get out of the engine easier, better all round. Definite +1 for the downpipe from me, (if you can get the bolts out)!!
and definitely drive off boost until mapped if you have airfilter and freeflowing backbox as i\'m sure you know you can get boost spikes = bad
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: neil_jdmr on July 29, 2009, 09:15:24 PM
I got pretty much 80 bhp from just a hks dp and 3" decat after a mapping session with pip so deffo a +1 from me.
 
Also yep blocking off the stock bov create\'s the much nicer wastegate chatter effect. I ran for over a year with the stock bov blanked off as i couldnt stand the whistling on part throttle and i swear i had better throttle response on standard twins. I personally dont believe it had any detramental effect on my turbopack whatsoever, although many will disagree but imo all without any proof either way.
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: jackaleks on July 30, 2009, 09:06:22 AM
been debating about blocking off the standard recirc valves on mine, i was under the impression that the shafts on the stock twins weren\'t particularly tough?
 
i know there\'s no danger of running with out a bov on a well built single (Garrett/Holset/etc), Blitzboy seems to be the guy in the know so hopefully he\'ll see this!
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: neil_jdmr on July 30, 2009, 12:08:05 PM
I didnt block off the crv, just the bov itself
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Rzla on July 30, 2009, 12:35:11 PM
Go SINGLEEEE
 
Then you can get the WOOOOOO taaahhhtaahhhtahhhh... otherwise you will always be an imitation and a wannabe lol
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 30, 2009, 12:57:54 PM
^^^ Nutter :Giggle

Putting on a proper downpipe is the best zorst mod you can make, especially if you\'re de-catting it as well. Just do it! Twins FTW!
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Rzla on July 30, 2009, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Nik da Greek;630786^^^ Nutter :Giggle
 
Putting on a proper downpipe is the best zorst mod you can make, especially if you\'re de-catting it as well. Just do it! Twins FTW!

 
:D
 
Are you coming on the tunnel run Nick? (weather permitting)
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 30, 2009, 01:28:13 PM
Dunno yet, dude. Which one are we talking about here?
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Rzla on July 30, 2009, 01:35:28 PM
The jap girls one this saturday.
You should come!
Everyone should come. Then we can all go raid a restuarant afterwards muhahahahaa
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 30, 2009, 01:40:17 PM
Yeah, I\'d love to come. Won\'t have the car, though, it\'s in for work (again! :mad:). Clutch and stuff
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: logicalChimp on July 30, 2009, 03:24:45 PM
Quote from: Nik da Greek;630812...Won\'t have the car, though, it\'s in for work (again! :mad:). Clutch and stuff

Yours too? probably parked next to mine then... again... :D
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: CharlieP on July 30, 2009, 05:53:18 PM
Well I think my thread did quite well...quite a few posts till it got off topic! :P :D
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 31, 2009, 01:34:18 AM
Quote from: CharlieP;630924Well I think my thread did quite well...quite a few posts till it got off topic! :P :D

Sorry dude :o! Nearly managed a whole page on-topic, must be a record for us lot :Giggle
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Rzla on July 31, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: CharlieP;630924Well I think my thread did quite well...quite a few posts till it got off topic! :P :D

Apologies dude I will convince you to go singlee..
 
wwooooooo tsssstttehhhhhet tattt taaa taaaaaa
 
:evillaugh
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: CharlieP on July 31, 2009, 01:24:25 PM
Quote from: Rzla;631046Apologies dude I will convince you to go singlee..
 
wwooooooo tsssstttehhhhhet tattt taaa taaaaaa
 
:evillaugh

You never will, too much lag :yes:spank
I\'ve had a single rex, and two twins since, and much prefer twins....well might help mine being so smooth...I know not all are
 
 twins forever! :InLove
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Rzla on July 31, 2009, 02:47:15 PM
Quote from: CharlieP;631088You never will, too much lag :yes:spank
I\'ve had a single rex, and two twins since, and much prefer twins....well might help mine being so smooth...I know not all are
 
twins forever! :InLove

Bleh the single must have been too big with the wrong ports.
Your don\'t need a huge single to make decent power ( I assume you are looking for around 300-350 atw).. I remember Kash\'s T04E on Jaydees mild streetport was full boost by something like 2.5-2.8k revs. He will recall better than me.
 
Anyway you going tunnel run?
Title: Downpipe and Turbo Advice Pls
Post by: Kash_ on July 31, 2009, 03:05:50 PM
Yeah as Raz said I made positive boost from 2.5k had 0.9 bar by 3.3K on Jay\'s mild streetport and a HKS T04e turbo... also made 331rwhp @ 0.9 bar