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Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: StavFC on July 09, 2009, 10:49:20 PM
I knew RX ownership was going too well, lol :Hammer
 
My engines a side ported T04E setup and ive been running 0.8bar and stock (well, NGK BUR7EQ and NGK BUR9EQ, I presume they stock) plugs for a while, but as I was getting bored with such low boost and was reccomended to run (considering the way its driven, ie v.hard) NGK10s all round, I fitted the B10EGVs a lot of people choose when going for 10s.
 
These are single electrode things rather than those crazy looking things I removed BTW.
 
Anyhow, it started on the button, ran for a few mins, but when I
gave it a small stationary blip it stalled. It has before when cold so thats no biggie, but now it wont start, smells like fuel so think its flooded.
 
Removed plugs, look like new still, didnt smell too fuelly, but I dunno, still wont start.
 
I guessed on the plug gap, and in hindsight it might be too small, so what plug gap should I run?
 
Any info appreciated, cars that dont start are NOT fun... :wave
Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: Grizzly on July 09, 2009, 11:51:02 PM
Bit confusing as i\'ve never heard of setting the gaps on Rotary Plugs? they are not like Piston engine type plugs.
Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: kev-yorks on July 10, 2009, 06:28:40 AM
Egv\'s are a normal type plug and need gapping. No straight answer tbh as it depends on your ignition system, the more power your running the wider the gap you can get away with. Though if there\'s no sign of flooding then i\'d be looking elsewhere for problems.
Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: StavFC on July 10, 2009, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: kev-yorks;624956Egv\'s are a normal type plug and need gapping. No straight answer tbh as it depends on your ignition system, the more power your running the wider the gap you can get away with. Though if there\'s no sign of flooding then i\'d be looking elsewhere for problems.

Stock ign system AFAIK.
 
Stinks of fuel, so reckon its flooded, plugs look like new, no deposits at all, but they are new, so.
 
Any rough plug gap suggestion? And if not flooded, what else is likely?
 
And surely MORE power is smaller plug gap, not other way round...? Unless rotaries work in some magic voodoo way?
Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: BlitzBoy on July 10, 2009, 09:57:56 AM
he is talking about about more power in your ignition system, if you have a stock ignition system then have a small gap less chance of it blowing out.
Deflood the car , eg take the plugs and dry them , eg qiuck 10 ten mins in an oven.
Then disable your fuel pump and crank the engine with no plugs, so the excess fuel is forced out the plugs holes.

B10 EGVs are not rotary specific plugs, so no rules on plugs gaps with these. I use NGK 7420\'s or NGK 4725s which are rotary specific plugs and already pre gapped
Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: StavFC on July 10, 2009, 10:13:54 AM
Its ok, asked elsewhere, got a gap :)
Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: martinFD on July 12, 2009, 12:05:55 PM
for future reference, I gap these plugs at .22 on mine without issue. I run the 10.5 & 11\'s on these plugs and can\'t fault them for the cost @ £7 each.  However, they won\'t last as long.
Title: What plug gap on NGK Racing "B10EGV" plugs? Flooded I think...
Post by: StavFC on July 13, 2009, 11:57:51 PM
Im running .030" which runs fine, seems better overall than stock plugs, even at 0.8bar.
 
Reason mine wasnt happy was I clowned out as I was rushing, and picked up the wrong set of feeler gauges, the mm ones.
 
So set it to .30mm by accident, thats about 0.01" i think...