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Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 11:31:10 AM
Is there a thread on here which discusses the options for going single turbo - I\'ve been trying to find one and can\'t.:3Confused

Does anyone know the best place to purchase a full, high quality kit for going single with all the necessary stuff needed (dont need to cover fuelling system or clutch etc.) :mmmm
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: AtomicRex on June 12, 2009, 11:32:34 AM
Our Kit is a good one :)
 
Drop me a mail and I can discus with you the system
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 11:34:56 AM
I actually emailed you around 10 mins ago.:yes
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: AtomicRex on June 12, 2009, 11:37:34 AM
Kewl
 
Well you should have my reply then about 5 minutes ago :)
 
Are you able to send me over your telephone number?
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
will email you back with it. :-)
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: Speedline Imports on June 12, 2009, 11:54:48 AM
Im just breaking an FD now which comes with T04Z single turbo kit, also have items like Blitz FMIC, uprated alloy Rad, ignition amp.  Rebuilt halft bridge ported engine is also available.
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 12:04:35 PM
how would the to4Z compare to a GT35/40 in terms of spool and peak power?

How much would you want for the whole kit?
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: sparky_ssr on June 12, 2009, 12:40:36 PM
Hi what ignition amp have you got? Also is there a aeromotive Fpr? Im Only about 20 mins away if you could let me know. Cheers
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: antnicuk on June 12, 2009, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: suba;615659how would the to4Z compare to a GT35/40 in terms of spool and peak power?

How much would you want for the whole kit?


very similar i would imagine,  but it depends so much on turbine/compressor housings.  

Both are very good options,  and will manage 400 rwhp with supporting mods/porting.  I liked my 35/40 a lot.
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: BlitzBoy on June 12, 2009, 02:30:07 PM
The T04Z will flow more by the way and have similar spool to the GT35R
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: Speedline Imports on June 12, 2009, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: sparky_ssr;615670Hi what ignition amp have you got? Also is there a aeromotive Fpr? Im Only about 20 mins away if you could let me know. Cheers

Its an RE-Amemiya stickered one but is made by B&M £150.  FPR is quiet a basic one, not Aeromotive.
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: Speedline Imports on June 12, 2009, 03:29:52 PM
TO4Z complete kit is £1500, Also available is a high flowing exhaust system for an extra £300 which all came from blitzboys old setup and was a proven 450+rwhp!
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 03:43:49 PM
I thought the t04Z was a fair bit bigger than the GT35/40?
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: BlitzBoy on June 12, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
yes bigger turbine and compressor wheels
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 04:07:20 PM
Thanks - would it be pulling by 3,000 rpm on stock ports?
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: BlitzBoy on June 12, 2009, 04:14:44 PM
you will get positive boost , but with stock ports you wont be seeing full boost eg (1 BAR) until around 4.8 - 5K.
On stock ports  if you want fast spool go for a T04E.
But if you are looking at doing big porting on your engine in the future then go for one of these bigger turbos
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 04:19:19 PM
Ouch - 1 bar by 5,000 rpm is way too slow - even if I was to go for this option with the aim of porting the engine in future, I could not live with that for now.:(
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: BlitzBoy on June 12, 2009, 04:21:39 PM
yep it is a big turbo, same with the GT35 that wont be at full boost until way over 4k with stock ports
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: suba on June 12, 2009, 04:37:18 PM
I was led to believe by a couple of people that the GT35 would be similar to the T04E in terms of spool / response on the stock ports?
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: Ed_RX7 on June 12, 2009, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;615758you will get positive boost , but with stock ports you wont be seeing full boost eg (1 BAR) until around 4.8 - 5K.
On stock ports if you want fast spool go for a T04E.
But if you are looking at doing big porting on your engine in the future then go for one of these bigger turbos

 
CHURCH!!!..................:chat
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: overboost on June 17, 2009, 12:32:11 AM
Quote from: Speedline Imports;615734TO4Z complete kit is £1500, Also available is a high flowing exhaust system for an extra £300 which all came from blitzboys old setup and was a proven 450+rwhp!
hmmm... tempted:mmmm
 
What about street port? Will you see boost around 3500rpm?
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: Jit on June 17, 2009, 12:58:38 AM
street port?? youre not opening up the engine already are you Jason???
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: overboost on June 17, 2009, 01:30:34 AM
Quote from: Jit;617137street port?? youre not opening up the engine already are you Jason???
Not yet... but I\'ve doing a lot of thinking on the choices I have got.
 
I\'ll have to get a power fc as I am still speed limited at 180km/h... which is annoying enough on a small track in Brands Hatch but in Bedford I have to crusie for the 3/4 of the main straight.
 
So I\'ll have to deal with the speed limit thing...might as well get a power fc and map the car. Then I\'ll be better off if I have bigger intercooler, down pipe possilbely fuel pump as well to max out the standard turbos.
 
Then again, V mount intercooler will be an overkill for a standard turbo setup but if I go for sm or fm I\'ll need to replace them for a V-Mount as soon as I get a single turbo set-up, which will happen anyway in the not-so-far-away future.
 
So think about going single now... especially I have always fancied a TO4Z from the RB26 days
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: chopper2k22 on June 17, 2009, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: overboost;617142Not yet... but I\'ve doing a lot of thinking on the choices I have got.
 
Then again, V mount intercooler will be an overkill for a standard turbo setup but if I go for sm or fm I\'ll need to replace them for a V-Mount as soon as I get a single turbo set-up, which will happen anyway in the not-so-far-away future.
 

V mount is great for twins, lower intake temps the better! i dropped the boost after putting the v mount in as i run out of injector duty and made 20bhp more just on getting rid of the stock ic
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: AtomicRex on June 17, 2009, 10:26:44 AM
Or even a front mount :)
 
There is still a divided camp on whether the V-Mount is better than the Front mount.  Personally I have ditched our V-Mount in preference of a very big FM and Radiator in the vertical position
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: antnicuk on June 17, 2009, 10:43:06 AM
Quote from: AtomicRex;617173Or even a front mount :)
 
There is still a divided camp on whether the V-Mount is better than the Front mount.  Personally I have ditched our V-Mount in preference of a very big FM and Radiator in the vertical position



oooh controversial,   what made you dump the V mount John,  I have always found a vast improvement.
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: antnicuk on June 17, 2009, 10:45:42 AM
Quote from: overboost;617142Not yet... but I\'ve doing a lot of thinking on the choices I have got.
 
I\'ll have to get a power fc as I am still speed limited at 180km/h... which is annoying enough on a small track in Brands Hatch but in Bedford I have to crusie for the 3/4 of the main straight.
 
So I\'ll have to deal with the speed limit thing...might as well get a power fc and map the car. Then I\'ll be better off if I have bigger intercooler, down pipe possilbely fuel pump as well to max out the standard turbos.
 
Then again, V mount intercooler will be an overkill for a standard turbo setup but if I go for sm or fm I\'ll need to replace them for a V-Mount as soon as I get a single turbo set-up, which will happen anyway in the not-so-far-away future.
 
So think about going single now... especially I have always fancied a TO4Z from the RB26 days



Welcome to the world of RX7\'s   :Thumbsup!


:Laugh
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: AtomicRex on June 17, 2009, 10:51:51 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;617180oooh controversial, what made you dump the V mount Jon, I have always found a vast improvement.

The performance on the first set up was useless....I would see intake temps of close to 70 deg C, but moving to a bigger set up, which is still for sale if anyone wants it, I was seeing between 10 and 18 deg C.
 
However watching the Race cars in New Zealand, not one had a V-Mount, all were running Front Mounts.  Also I was nurfed off the track and did some grass tracking before managing to make it back onto the track...quite fun at 120mph!  The car was fine to race other than a combination of the front splitter and V-Mount had acted as a lawn mower, and the entire space between the radiator and intercooler was packed with grass...end of race :(
 
We have had some intercoolers made for our new cars...and these use a much larger gap between the turbulators.  This should allow more air to flow through and so keep the radiator cooler.
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: antnicuk on June 17, 2009, 11:04:13 AM
interesting about the guys in NZ,  i spose if you make the front mount and rad big enough, then its gonna work

you still racing john?
Title: Single turbo kits....
Post by: AtomicRex on June 17, 2009, 11:10:47 AM
Soon to make a come back yes :)
 
Hopefully we will have the workshop up and running to full steam again, and now with the new members of staff it isn\'t going to be long!
 
Have a few customer cars to get ready but then can start concentrating on our cars again.
 
We do have TonyC gallantly testing our new parts though...so hopefully they will be doing a good job at a circuit near you soon!