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Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: M@r]{ on April 25, 2009, 07:58:21 PM
Thinking of going for a single turbo (whilst my engine is out and its has to be mapped anyway), I\'m not fussed about getting 500+ bhp I just want something that will suit me for drifting. I want one that spools up quick and will come in nice and early - basically something as near to the same driveability as the stock twins.

So what sort of thing should I be looking for?


Thanks guys
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: gsb876 on April 25, 2009, 08:16:21 PM
Apexi RX6 spools about 2500-3000 rpm, had one in the Satin Black rx7 :Thumbsup!
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: AshRX on April 26, 2009, 06:24:21 PM
Gt35/40
Gt4088/94
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: suba on April 29, 2009, 01:37:50 PM
What power can these smaller single turbos flow on a non-ported engine, and at what rpm does the power tail off?:Thumbs-up
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Post by: AtomicRex on April 29, 2009, 01:53:24 PM
My vote goes for the GT35/40....and if you need one give me a call, I would be happy to get you the best deal.  It starts pretty much at 2500 all the way through to 7.5/8 thousand rpm.  Depending on the porting you are doing will depend on the hotside.  Just sold one to Dave who is running a street port and he has the 0.84, whereas Tony, who has a bit more porting, I\'ve supplied a 1.06.
 
If you are interested in manifolds and downpipes....no doubt Tony will have some pictures up on his section by Monday :)
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Post by: Rzla on April 29, 2009, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: AtomicRex;603665My vote goes for the GT35/40....and if you need one give me a call, I would be happy to get you the best deal. It starts pretty much at 2500 all the way through to 7.5/8 thousand rpm. Depending on the porting you are doing will depend on the hotside. Just sold one to Dave who is running a street port and he has the 0.84, whereas Tony, who has a bit more porting, I\'ve supplied a 1.06.
 
If you are interested in manifolds and downpipes....no doubt Tony will have some pictures up on his section by Monday :)

 
2500? On what ports?
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: AtomicRex on April 29, 2009, 02:02:22 PM
Mine was showing power starting to come in at 2500, and that was with a street port
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Post by: BlitzBoy on April 29, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
most small to medium turbos will make positive boost at 2.5K, the porting on your intake exhaust ports will effect this making positive boost come in earlier and full boost.For example on my halfbridge I make actual positive boost at 2k when I hit the throttle and actual FULL boost around 4.2 to 4.4 depending on the boost setting to the wastegate opening
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Post by: suba on April 29, 2009, 03:11:16 PM
Thanks - is it realistic to have a single turbo boosting hard at 3K and pulling to the top end on a non-ported engine?  If so then would the turbo be able to flow 400-450bhp?
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: BlitzBoy on April 29, 2009, 03:15:35 PM
On stock ports you looking at full boost at 4k on a meduim single, you need a smaller T04E to be pulling real hard at 3k.

A T04E will give 400fly but you gonna have to run it a high boost to get there eg more then 1 BAR on stock ports
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Post by: suba on April 29, 2009, 03:37:03 PM
How would that compare to running the stock twin turbos, but non-sequential on a stock engine in terms of spoolup and peak power/driveability?
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Post by: BlitzBoy on April 29, 2009, 03:44:20 PM
Not much in it to be honest except simplicity with a single, you can get get 400fly on stock twins with the right mods and tuning.
The small single will give you simplicity,reliable and less heat then stock twins at 1 bar for example.
Sticking to sequential will give you more low down grunt though, non seq will give you less power low down but some people dont like the transition at 4k.

The fastest stock "Seq" twins with WI acheived a 12 second dead quarter mile in this country on stock ports.

Its all in the Tuning!
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: suba on April 29, 2009, 03:47:48 PM
:Thumbsup!
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: Rzla on April 29, 2009, 04:06:25 PM
I misread the 2.5k as full boost rather than starting boost thats why I asked what porting :p
Makes more sense now
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: M@r]{ on April 30, 2009, 12:05:52 PM
Well i\'m all sorted now.  I\'ve bought Kash\'s T60 kit.  Its not an ideal turbo but as the engine is being rebuilt by the rotary god that is Era i\'m confident that he can port it to get this turbo in as soon as possible.  I\'m also getting the kit to Era to see if he can do anything with that as well  :)
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Post by: Bobbit on April 30, 2009, 12:18:10 PM
Does anyone know what sort of power the RX6 achieves on stock ports?
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Post by: hairyhoover on April 30, 2009, 01:09:03 PM
I\'ve a got t04s on a era port and its a quick car with 1bar by 3750 rpm!
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Post by: Ed_RX7 on April 30, 2009, 09:56:29 PM
Quote from: \'M@r{;603973\']Well i\'m all sorted now. I\'ve bought Kash\'s T60 kit. Its not an ideal turbo but as the engine is being rebuilt by the rotary god that is Era i\'m confident that he can port it to get this turbo in as soon as possible. I\'m also getting the kit to Era to see if he can do anything with that as well :)

 
If you think it will spool late...just put a .84 rear housing on it and it will spool mega early.....
 
Might have a .84 rear that would fit it...i\'ll have to check....let me know if you want me to?
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: M@r]{ on April 30, 2009, 10:32:51 PM
Yes please Ed, have a look if you have one and let me know a price

Cheers  :Thumbsup!
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Post by: Ed_RX7 on April 30, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
£70...also includes a vband downpipe flange and clamp
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: Kash_ on May 01, 2009, 12:38:23 PM
Porting makes all the difference in spool up time! As you are getting the engine rebuilt Mark you have the opportunity to have the ports match the turbo, this will make it spool up very early :)
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: Ed_RX7 on May 01, 2009, 12:44:20 PM
Quote from: Ed_RX7;604235£70...also includes a vband downpipe flange and clamp

 
that includes delivery mark...or £60 if you wanna collect
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Post by: AshRX on May 01, 2009, 12:55:32 PM
got any for a GT4202r Ed?
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: Kash_ on May 01, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
Mark I can pick this up for you from Eds as I\'m going to be around his neck of the woods on Sat?
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: M@r]{ on May 01, 2009, 04:04:16 PM
Ed, thanks mate but i\'m going to give this a miss.  I will loose to much bhp compared to how much earlier it will spool and seeing as my engine is being built to match this turbo we should be able to get it to spool early as it is.

Thanks anyway dude

Quote from: Ed_RX7;604376that includes delivery mark...or £60 if you wanna collect
Title: What turbo will spool up quick and come in nice and early?
Post by: Ed_RX7 on May 01, 2009, 09:49:14 PM
cool bud!.........