Cars by Model Type => 1st generation RX-7's => Topic started by: David Nock (RIP) on January 09, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
Title: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 09, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
The recent revisit of the Poll on "What RX7 have you got" has reminded me that I have been logging 1st Gens in the UK of which I can be fairly sure are runners or \'good on SORN\', not scappers. I have been doing this for a year now and my records run to 68 cars. Allow the odd 8 which may never come off SORN, or which may be duplicates (cos I\'ve tried hard to keep things straight where I know a cars moved between owners but it gets difficult at times). At this point I reckon there\'s about 60 running cars which have been \'in print\' somewhere, either logged on this club, for sale on e bay or on show at Rotorstock/on Calendars. I\'ve noted a little detail about each car, so if anyone wants to put the Series (1st Gen 1,2 or3), the colour and ideally a partial Reg No. up on here, I\'ll tell you if I\'ve got it logged. It would help to know if any owners are recent purchasers and where the car came from as it may be logged under somewhere else. Regular contributors to the 1st Gen section - Mark, Shaun, Stuart (Syebba), Daverey, Don P, are all duly logged and noted.
All good fun lads, I used to log Rotherham Corporation Bus Reg Nos as a youngster in the 1950\'s. You get old but your brain still works the same!
PS, I don\'t mind logging \'whole shell scrappers\' as well if they\'re stil on a Reg No. to ID them.
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Post by: syebba on January 09, 2009, 09:36:27 PM
Sounds interesting. Not been hardly any 1st gens on ebay for months,last spring there seemed to be a glut of them. I\'d guess there could be 300>500 in UK on sorn & still on road. I have\'nt seen a first gen driving on the road for about 5yrs. Cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: clive on January 09, 2009, 09:53:51 PM
When we formed MRC in 2001 I contacted the DVLC to try and work out what how many cars we out there on the road,
The Gen 1 and Gen 2\'s were difficult because as you may well know 1985 Gen 1\'s were still being registerd up as new cars in 1986 on a D reg which is also the first of the Gen 2\'s,
This made splitting them very difficult but it appeared that around 650 gen 1\'s were on the road in the UK in 2001 but beleive this number could may well have dwindled to just a couple of hundred due to rot, accidents and becoming unwanted and simply thrown away.
A Gen 1 at any event is now a rarety just as a Gen 2 EGI is,
p.s. there is one bizzare Gen 1 out there, bizzare because it\'s on a 1991 J reg plate, staggered how they did it but a Mazda dealer had an unregistered one tucked away and got it registered up as a new car in 1991
Hope this helps
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Post by: syebba on January 09, 2009, 10:37:35 PM
Got this one? C510BUU (http://i16.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/1b/af/83c3_12.JPG)
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Post by: shaunwil on January 09, 2009, 10:40:28 PM
Blimey I use mine every single day and wouldn\'t want it any other way !
Its in need of some bodywork fixes but nothing really very serious. Just about to reach 127k miles.
Was thinking about buying one to tub !!
Shaun
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Post by: syebba on January 09, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
wow thats the first time i have seen another TWR front kit like mine, is it yours?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 10, 2009, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: clive;573038p.s. there is one bizzare Gen 1 out there, bizzare because it\'s on a 1991 J reg plate, staggered how they did it but a Mazda dealer had an unregistered one tucked away and got it registered up as a new car in 1991.
Hope this helps
Yes I know that one Clive. It\'s our Gus. He\'s on a K plate, 1st registered December 1992. B and H Mazda in Barnet had him stashed away \'till we bought \'im.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 10, 2009, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: syebba;573056Got this one? C510BUU
No Stuart, but I have now thanks. Where in the country is it because I\'ve got a metallic blue S3 in Nuneaton area but no Reg?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 10, 2009, 12:01:21 PM
TCV 63Y, HLF 172T, FPR 366V (Gone to Ireland), B 554 DJN (that\'s yours, you little Monkey Stuart)
Got them already Thanks
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 10, 2009, 12:11:47 PM
HUU 743W, and B 632 KNH (that one looks familiar somehow), Ditto not got them where are they; do you know?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 10, 2009, 12:27:14 PM
2 first gens I am particularly interested in are cars we used to own- WWA 535Y (S2 Metallic Red) and B 883 SEH (S3 Silver). They\'re probably both in the great scapyard in the sky by now.
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Post by: shaunwil on January 10, 2009, 01:19:06 PM
Sorry Mines C933 FVX, Series 3 running a S5 6 port 13b !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 10, 2009, 01:34:29 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;573182Sorry Mines C933 FVX, Series 3 running a S5 6 port 13b !
Shaun
Thanks Shaun - Added your Reg to my list for completeness, if you don\'t mind.
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Post by: shaunwil on January 10, 2009, 01:44:46 PM
No problem :D
Shaun
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Post by: syebba on January 10, 2009, 02:35:04 PM
@ mark,the TWR kit is\'nt mine,it\'s up 4 sale. @Dave,just checking how thorough u are doing ur homework,so i sneaked mine in,but u noticed,hehe:Giggle Ta
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Post by: syebba on January 10, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
Is that the one for sale in this months Practical Classics ?
Shaun
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Post by: syebba on January 10, 2009, 04:41:42 PM
@shaun,yes it is
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on January 10, 2009, 05:25:17 PM
(http://i8.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/29/d3/885e_35.JPG) C713CKL IN LONDON
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 11, 2009, 12:07:33 PM
Thanks for that. Got C713 CKL off e bay this morning. It looks a cracker lads. Starting price £2500 with what looks to be a genuine car with 48000 miles.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Brett on January 11, 2009, 12:18:57 PM
We have a 1985 C reg 1st gen with a TWR bodykit, in Silver. :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 11, 2009, 12:49:07 PM
Thanks Brett.
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Post by: syebba on January 11, 2009, 02:55:20 PM
The red RX7 was up 4 sale last year on pistonheads for £3750,it looks a very good car with genuine mileage with nothing needing doing. Also comes with red elford turbo alloys as spares.:WaveBye
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ghostjd on January 13, 2009, 10:22:30 PM
I have two FB\'s one is an 85 and the other was registered in 86 both UK cars and both are off the road at the moment.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 14, 2009, 11:38:37 AM
Thanks ghostjd. Could you let me have a bit of detail, say colour of each plus Reg or part Reg if possible but some don\'t always like to give the Reg detail. Are you figuring both as runners or is one only for spares? Forgive me for this but where\'s Comber? For interest, my plan is to push out a simple chart of 1st Gens by Series (1,2,3),stating colour and County, probably not much more than that for reasons as above.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ghostjd on January 14, 2009, 12:43:55 PM
I bought the 85 as a project car there was no reg plate on it but I could get the chassis number for you if that helps, its original colour was silver but previous owner painted it red and black. Reason it wont go back on the road is the chassis is in terrible condition its rotten with rust and I personally wouldn\'t want to go round the track in it never mind a public road. Engine and gearbox is great though so they\'ll come out and be used for spares.
The 86 is black I just bought it around a month ago and is currently in storage at the person I bought it offs workshop, this car will go back on the road. The reg number is IJI 8307.
Comber is in County Down, Northern Ireland
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 15, 2009, 12:49:00 PM
Thanks very much. I would like the chassis No. if you don\'t mind, as I\'ve always recorded my own cars and any info is good. I\'ve a guide book which says that the last S3 1st gen car Vin No. ended in 5582, so you can see how near to the end your \'86 car is.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mpk490p on January 16, 2009, 10:13:10 AM
David do you have mine on your records? Mark
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 16, 2009, 03:57:28 PM
Right near the top of the list Mark.:wave
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Post by: carszommzoomzoom on January 16, 2009, 07:36:40 PM
I had A403 UYE, Met Green in 2004. Sold to a German collector who flew to the UK to collect. His parents were personalk friends of ....el.
Now I have C719 CKL, Silver. In superb condition, less than 60,000 miles.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: carszommzoomzoom on January 16, 2009, 07:37:37 PM
Quote from: carszommzoomzoom;575651I had A403 UYE, Met Green in 2004. Sold to a German collector who flew to the UK to collect. His parents were personalk friends of ....el.
Now I have C719 CKL, Silver. In superb condition, less than 60,000 miles.
How can you edit W_A_N_K_E_L on a rotary site??!??!?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: djguru on January 16, 2009, 07:47:40 PM
June 1984; Metallic Green, acquired in 2001 & on SORN for last 4 or 5 years with resto starting this year (!) First registered in Northern Ireland, so presume it has always stayed here through it\'s 8 previous owners. TIJ****
Dave
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Post by: syebba on January 16, 2009, 09:20:54 PM
@ Mark, Even if dave\'s eyesight was so poor he needed to wear Hubble telescopes to see,he could\'nt miss yours,it\'s banana yellow!:evillaugh How many u got now Dave,75?
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Post by: mpk490p on January 18, 2009, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: syebba;575687@ Mark, Even if dave\'s eyesight was so poor he needed to wear Hubble telescopes to see,he could\'nt miss yours,it\'s banana yellow!:evillaugh How many u got now Dave,75?
LOL yes is does brighten up these winter months!:Giggle
Mark
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2009, 11:23:21 AM
Quote from: syebba;575687@ Mark, How many u got now Dave,75?
72 1st Gens now Stuart - A few duplicates came to light when I went to spreadsheet from notebook. They are 52 Series 3, 13 Series 2 and 7 Series 1. Plus I\'ve now got 2 UK cars been sent completely abroad, 1 to France and 1 to Germany. (Southern Ireland I\'ve included in UK totals). Not all are runners, a few are on SORN, especially if they look like they might make a comeback to roadworthy. Going well and, as you can see, getting interesting.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2009, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: carszommzoomzoom;575651I had A403 UYE, Met Green in 2004. Sold to a German collector who flew to the UK to collect. His parents were personalk friends of ....el.
Now I have C719 CKL, Silver. In superb condition, less than 60,000 miles.
Thanks very much for that info. Here\'s where things get a bit interesting - you can see above in this thread that we\'ve got C713 CKL already, a Red S3. It has to be that your car and C713 started life at the same dealers and were probably on the same cargo ship, if not road transporter. They\'re both low miles and both seem excellent condition. (Well I did say just a bit interesting didn\'t I? - I find this sort of backwards vehicle history fascinating!!!).:Snoring
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2009, 11:32:25 AM
Quote from: djguru;575656June 1984; Metallic Green, acquired in 2001 & on SORN for last 4 or 5 years with resto starting this year (!) First registered in Northern Ireland, so presume it has always stayed here through it\'s 8 previous owners. TIJ****
Dave
Thanks Dave. Our 1st RX7 was a Series 2 1982, originally registered in Newtownards as PIJ 5940. Then it went to WWA 535Y by the previous owner here in South Yorks
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2009, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: mpk490p;576048LOL yes is does brighten up these winter months!:Giggle
Mark
I\'ve called it \'Custom Yellow\' Mark. Don\'t let Stuart hurt your feelings.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2009, 06:12:37 PM
Quote from: David Nock;576081Thanks very much for that info. Here\'s where things get a bit interesting - you can see above in this thread that we\'ve got C713 CKL already, a Red S3. It has to be that your car and C713 started life at the same dealers and were probably on the same cargo ship, if not road transporter. They\'re both low miles and both seem excellent condition. (Well I did say just a bit interesting didn\'t I? - I find this sort of backwards vehicle history fascinating!!!).:Snoring
Bit more detail. KL (as in CKL) started life as a Maidstone Reg in Kent.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2009, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: David Nock;576082Thanks Dave. Our 1st RX7 was a Series 2 1982, originally registered in Newtownards as PIJ 5940. Then it went to WWA 535Y by the previous owner here in South Yorks
And IJ (as in TIJ) was a Co. Down plate.
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Post by: adam6900 on January 21, 2009, 10:42:06 PM
Would like to add A512 TYL saved from the crusher by the skin of its teath!!! Check out the lack of Tax
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2009, 11:21:46 AM
Quote from: adam6900;577297Would like to add A512 TYL saved from the crusher by the skin of its teath!!! Check out the lack of Tax
Thanks Adam. I\'ve given some info on your other post. What colour is the car and has it got 13" wheels with a chunky cross pattern (Series 2) or 14" wheels with a solid starburst sort of pattern. \'Sonic\' Mazda called that pattern. (Series 3). YL was a London Reg originally. Don\'t see lack of tax at the crusher gates any problem. A pic of the vehicle always useful.
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Post by: adam6900 on January 22, 2009, 09:05:24 PM
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/aldcarspares2009/rx7/P1000005.jpg) Only thing is i will have to delete these from the work photobucket so if you want to keep them please right click and save them! Last taxed in 1996 and last started in 1996!!
12 years later and it pops in to life within 30 seconds! <--Just convinced me that rotorys are not as .... as i thought!! LOL
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Post by: shaunwil on January 23, 2009, 08:13:55 AM
Blimey, that looks very good body wise !
Shaun
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Post by: Silverstone Autosport on January 23, 2009, 09:47:34 AM
hi boys dwayne here from LINDOP MOTORSPORT blew my engine at anglesey october (couple of picks on youtube if you want to see her) in need of 12a anyone have a runner?
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Post by: Silverstone Autosport on January 23, 2009, 10:03:32 AM
hi boys dwayne here from LINDOP MOTORSPORT went to angelsey last october blew my 12a bridgeport looking for good 12 a to get her racing anyone got donner laying about (some picks on youtube if you want to take a look):wiggle
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 23, 2009, 10:22:35 AM
Quote from: shaunwil;577670Blimey, that looks very good body wise !
Shaun
It certainly does Shaun. Make a good resto project I would have thought.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 23, 2009, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: LINDOP MOTORSPORT;577684hi boys dwayne here from LINDOP MOTORSPORT blew my engine at anglesey october (couple of picks on youtube if you want to see her) in need of 12a anyone have a runner?
Hi Dwayne. There seems to be a few complete cars hitting ebay that run but might be MOT fails. Would you want a complete car?
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Post by: Silverstone Autosport on January 23, 2009, 11:18:22 AM
just the engine mate anglesey in march need to get going on the build
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Post by: shaunwil on January 23, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: David Nock;577697It certainly does Shaun. Make a good resto project I would have thought.
I keep trying to resist the urge of doing something like this :
For your records....TCV63Y now resides here, in Norwich, with me! :chat
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Post by: rei99 on January 26, 2009, 12:05:17 AM
Hi everyone! Rei99 from Italy here... I take away one of your \'7 last year :p Better, it was an USA model arrived in UK in the 1989, and now coming in a LHD country :D Here some info and photos, in Italian:
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 26, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
QuoteFor your records....TCV63Y now resides here, in Norwich, with me! :chat
Thanks Baz Duly noted..... See your other post for more chat.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 26, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: rei99;578407Hi everyone! Rei99 from Italy here... I take away one of your \'7 last year :p Better, it was an USA model arrived in UK in the 1989, and now coming in a LHD country :D
Thank You for the information. I think you have shown the car in Essex before you took it to Italy? I have got the Registration No. from when it was driving in UK. Thanks Again. Did you take all those spare parts to Italy with you or did you leave some for us poor UK people? We have no money now!! (Joking---but only a little bit, we do seem to have some problemo!).
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Post by: rei99 on January 26, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
I have saw it in Ebay, the price was lower (due to LHD in UK I think) and I came with ariplane there, and an artic truck is arrived the day later... I was lucky the car was good, otherwise the artic was there and I must buy it in every condition :( The artic was the only solution to take all the spare parts with the car. To be true, I have bought the car better for the spare parts, because I already own 2 SA22C and the engines 12A in Italy are unique, not rare :)
My friend, very sad but also here the money are very low... I want to buy an FD, but so much problem with this crysis :( If you search some spare parts, happy to send to you :)
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Post by: Baz-7 on January 26, 2009, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: David Nock;578504Thanks Baz Duly noted..... See your other post for more chat.
If you want any more info for your records, just let me know! ;)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 26, 2009, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: Baz-7;578511If you want any more info for your records, just let me know! ;)
Well, the year, or better still the V5 date would be good.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 26, 2009, 05:02:05 PM
QuoteThe artic was the only solution to take all the spare parts with the car. To be true, I have bought the car better for the spare parts, because I already own 2 SA22C and the engines 12A in Italy are unique, not rare :)
Did the americans just use the 13B in the states? Did you get no 12A\'s imported into Italy? I assume you can get them rebuilt OK?
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Post by: Baz-7 on January 26, 2009, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: David Nock;578609Well, the year, or better still the V5 date would be good.
Registration Date for TCV63Y: 22/04/83 :)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 26, 2009, 06:07:58 PM
Great - thanks Baz.
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Post by: rei99 on January 26, 2009, 09:34:30 PM
Quote from: David Nock;578611Did the americans just use the 13B in the states? Did you get no 12A\'s imported into Italy? I assume you can get them rebuilt OK?
Sorry but my English could be better :3Confused The Sa22C you see was sold with 3 12A engine. I bought because is near impossible to find a 12A/13B in Italy. There were 2/3 persone that make a good rebuild, but there so few Sa22C that the problem is find the engine.... 13B is more difficult to find gold :D
Like you can see here (http://sites.google.com/site/mazdarx7ita/) I\'ve also 2other first gen, with this USA model are 3 in total. Now I\'ve an engine for every car, but I don\'t know the condition.... If one day I must put in the car I will check... By now, it will not be necessary: the car with more miles/km have 70.000km :D
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 27, 2009, 12:27:09 PM
Your english is excellent my friend. I\'ve also got a spare engine and also like you I don\'t know the condition. One day perhaps, but only done 52,000 miles so far in our FB.
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Post by: rei99 on January 27, 2009, 01:09:11 PM
Too gently David :D A question for your: you know if there\'s some FB with 13engine in UK? If yes, RHD with 13B swap or GSL-SE imported from USA? A GSL-SE (maybe white, red or black) in good condition was my dream more than a FD :)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 27, 2009, 05:11:15 PM
There are some but I think they\'re UK cars with 13B swap. Don\'t know of any GSL-SE imports, presume LHD wanted. Any other members know of any??
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Post by: mpk490p on January 31, 2009, 01:56:02 PM
David found some old number plates today in the garage, my first FB was B890 WYU which was transfered to MPK490P and my current FB was origionaly C921 EKL will have to try and dig out some of the other reg\'s of previous ones
Mark
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 31, 2009, 02:15:30 PM
Some interest has come out of that post Mark. I\'ve already got a custom yellow series 3, C921 EKL, on record, taken from the MRC calendar. That\'s as well as your current Reg. So therefore I can delete EKL because it appears twice. (DVLA don\'t reissue returned numbers do they)? Besides it\'s down as a custom yellow with big spoiler so it\'s the same car. On B890 WYU. Did you sell it as MPK 490P? So is MPK 490P still out there? What Series and what colour is/was it? Has to be S3 I suppose, on a B plate.
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Post by: kiwimazda on January 31, 2009, 02:16:28 PM
I have B900FGM Its my race car that is on sorn and will be broken for spares soon. Most stuff available.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 31, 2009, 02:24:03 PM
Quote from: kiwimazda;580177I have B900FGM Its my race car that is on sorn and will be broken for spares soon. Most stuff available.
Thanks, not got it. Will put it on the sheet. Ditto as Mark, what colour is it? Please let me know when you break it as I\'ve started adding known scrapped 1st Gens to my list for completeness.
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Post by: kiwimazda on January 31, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
RED :driving
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Post by: Baz-7 on January 31, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
Quote from: kiwimazda;580177I have B900FGM Its my race car that is on sorn and will be broken for spares soon. Most stuff available.
What\'s the exhaust like? :D
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Post by: mpk490p on January 31, 2009, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: David Nock;580176Some interest has come out of that post Mark. I\'ve already got a custom yellow series 3, C921 EKL, on record, taken from the MRC calendar. That\'s as well as your current Reg. So therefore I can delete EKL because it appears twice. (DVLA don\'t reissue returned numbers do they)? Besides it\'s down as a custom yellow with big spoiler so it\'s the same car. On B890 WYU. Did you sell it as MPK 490P? So is MPK 490P still out there? What Series and what colour is/was it? Has to be S3 I suppose, on a B plate.
it was scrapped i lost the mpk490p plate with it, it was Black then i sprayed it yellow (gen 1 S3), C921 EKL was only on the car a couple of weeks the calendar photo is quite old, not sure about DVLA reissuing numbers but it could end up on anything. Mark
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 31, 2009, 06:12:08 PM
Thanks Mark
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 31, 2009, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: kiwimazda;580177I have B900FGM Its my race car that is on sorn and will be broken for spares soon. Most stuff available.
Have you got a red C Reg as well? I\'ve gone one down for you not the same Reg as your race car (obviously - ones a C, ones a B)? or have I got \'em ....ed up?
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Post by: kiwimazda on January 31, 2009, 10:33:58 PM
C588MTU ????? Scrapped
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 01, 2009, 12:08:24 PM
Yes, that\'s the other one I had down for you. Now moved it from the \'living\' file, (which includes zombies on SORN) to the \'recently deceased\' file of broken cars. Now then, it\'s starting to take shape. Roughly for every new car added, I\'m getting information about another one scrapped. So the numbers are levelling off at 53 Series 3 FB, 15 Series 2 FB and 7 Series 1 SA\'s. I\'ve got Reg Nos for about 85% of the cars. I think I\'m light on the ex... club however - got some 1st gens here but I\'m sure not all.
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Post by: mattmaclennan on March 07, 2009, 09:01:22 AM
Hi David.
I rescued B459 XUL from Tim\'s Last year, still on SORN but should (fingers crossed) be on the road before the middle of April. White, 12a engine, full rollcage, tri-link rear end, coilovers etc. JMZ FB131200703875
have you got A8E XX red? went to Belgium.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 07, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Hi Matt. No I didn\'t have either of those. I thought I\'d got the B Reg but it\'s a different set of digits in the number part, also in white. Thanks very much. David
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Post by: james1902 on March 07, 2009, 09:55:34 PM
hi dave,
would like to add a photo for you but don\'t know how, anyone got any pointers.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 08, 2009, 11:52:34 AM
Yep, I use an Apple but windows machines must have similar facilities. First \'export\' your pic from the picture library to desktop but RESIZE as you do that, down to 1000 pixels or less on the largest dimension (the second dimension will auto resize to less than that). Don\'t forget to give an easy name for selecting from your desktop clutter. Then on this forum, use the Go Advanced facility.....Type your Message.....then Manage Attachments......then select the pic from your desktop list which comes up. Press to attach, takes a bit of uploading time, then post. Easy as that, it\'s the resizing that\'s important, otherwise it won\'t upload.
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Post by: Paul-Tll on March 08, 2009, 01:07:23 PM
Has a Met.white/Ivory car turned up yet? It was finished with a \'Mariah\' wide body kit, trimmed in full custom leather and for sale at Hayling Isle N\'r. Potsmouth about 2 years ago. about 3.5K i.r.c ? Was very tempted at the time. P.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 08, 2009, 05:17:51 PM
Quote from: Paul-Tll;589645Has a Met.white/Ivory car turned up yet? It was finished with a \'Mariah\' wide body kit, trimmed in full custom leather and for sale at Hayling Isle N\'r. Potsmouth about 2 years ago. about 3.5K i.r.c ? Was very tempted at the time. P.
No mate but I\'ll put it on the list. Sounds pretty neat. Any idea what year from memory? S1,2 or 3? Thanks Dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 18, 2009, 06:12:21 PM
Quote from: Paul-Tll;589645Has a Met.white/Ivory car turned up yet? It was finished with a \'Mariah\' wide body kit, trimmed in full custom leather and for sale at Hayling Isle N\'r. Potsmouth about 2 years ago. about 3.5K i.r.c ? Was very tempted at the time. P.
A series 2 has turned up - Elford, retrimmed in White Leather. Could this be the car? I\'ve got the Reg and the VIN but unfortunately the net report didn\'t give the colour. In auction 2006 in Surrey, not sold?
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Post by: Paul-Tll on March 19, 2009, 09:17:25 AM
Not sure? maybe based on that, but this car dfinetley had a Mode One Mariah body kit and finished in Met. pearl-white. Full leateher trim, may of had red piping.The owner told me the previous owner to him had the parts brought over from the States.I have never seen the car at any shows just on this guys driveway.In the next few weeks I\'ll go have a look again you never know? HTH Paul
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Post by: Brett on March 19, 2009, 09:25:00 AM
Mariah kit? I\'d have loved that! :god
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Post by: Paul-Tll on March 19, 2009, 09:44:53 AM
I was Very tempted at the time to buy the car, the guy had know Idea of the body kit other than from the states. i went home and weighed up cost of importing my own kit and putting a car of my own together but other things got in the way (as they always do) and the project was forgotten. P.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 19, 2009, 11:32:26 AM
If you do go that way again Paul, just note the Reg and colour and PM me with it. I\'ll can tell you then if it\'s the same Reg as the one I\'ve got.
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Post by: james1902 on March 19, 2009, 10:00:59 PM
Hi dave, my first gen C784SPA is coming along quite nicely and am nearly ready to start fixing up the body/chassis. am trying to sorce original sills to fix the rust problem properly. i\'m in the middle of fitting some FD seats an still chasing electrical faults (almost becoming a joke) but it\'s coming on slowly. if i can get the sills soon it might be back on the road end of next month.
just to ask, my boss has a TWR black 1st gen s1. it\'s in a bit of a bad way with rust but runs spot on. got any on record. will get you the reg later.
also we\'ve got and elford turbo engine (12a smoker) sitting in the engine room. do these use the same rotors? was thinking about getting it for my car. aren\'t they supposed to be quite rare?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 20, 2009, 11:36:11 AM
Thanks James...Your Reg is entered now. The Black TWR I think I\'ve got.... it should be XXX 521X.....is that right? About 37,000 miles on it only? Can that be right? Only got 10 Series 1\'s on record and only 2 TWR\'s amongst them. S1\'s seem pretty rare now.
I think the Elford kit used the same engine as the stock 12A car but I\'m no expert in Elfords or upgrading for that matter. My strength is knowing how to hold a stock 1st Gen street car together (more or less). Anyone else can answer James??
As for rarity - yes - I\'ve only noted 10 Elfords in my whole list, which is 141 cars now, made up of 10xS1, 31xS2 and 100xS3\'s
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Post by: james1902 on March 21, 2009, 08:47:46 PM
yep that\'s the one dave. looks like a nice car but does need quite a bit of tlc to get in good order. am looking for an mx5 for my daily drive as my fb is taking a bit longer than i originally planed. you know how these things go im sure.
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Post by: rei99 on March 23, 2009, 05:53:12 PM
Someone knows if this Hurley\'s prototipe is already on the road? :D I could falling in love for this car :D http://img124.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dsc00130p.jpg
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Post by: Buddy on March 25, 2009, 06:27:13 PM
One less, now that it appears my Maya gold with TWR racing bodykit and matching wheel trims has been scrapped by the .... who nicked it. Forgive me if I sound a little bitter, but I seriously doubt there was another one that looked exactly like mine.
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Post by: syebba on March 25, 2009, 09:59:17 PM
Here\'s a scrapper B55 YSU,is it on your list? Ta....
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 26, 2009, 11:11:44 AM
Quote from: syebba;593606Here\'s a scrapper B55 YSU,is it on your list? Ta....
Yes Stu, Hindle Breakers at Hartlepool. Thanks though - keep \'em coming.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 26, 2009, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Buddy;593540One less, now that it appears my Maya gold with TWR racing bodykit and matching wheel trims has been scrapped by the .... who nicked it. Forgive me if I sound a little bitter, but I seriously doubt there was another one that looked exactly like mine.
As said on your \'stolen\' post I\'m very sorry Mary. I\'ve moved little KAR (very gently I might add) off the list of roadgoers for now. I do really hope something turns up for you.
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Post by: syebba on March 26, 2009, 02:26:34 PM
(http://i6.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/34/00/aa62_1.JPG)
Another scrapper in tyne & wear!? Ta stuart..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 26, 2009, 05:56:59 PM
Yes, Backworth Autos I believe. Thanks Stu. MORE REQUIRED PLEASE.
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Post by: jinx on March 27, 2009, 09:49:47 AM
The world\'s gone mad. I know they rot like bu**ery underneath but these last two scrappers don\'t look that bad and would surely have been saved if they\'d been made anywhere in the midlands with an engine out of a tractor or even a fire pump? What folly to throw these away - the more I see of them the better I like them...maybe that\'s the nub of the problem!
My favourite thread by the way David - great stuff. You undoubtedly deserve the MRC public service award for 2008/9! (Anyone reading who knows if there is one:- Please take that as a nomination!)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 27, 2009, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: jinx;593923The world\'s gone mad. I know they rot like bu**ery underneath but these last two scrappers don\'t look that bad and would surely have been saved if they\'d been made anywhere in the midlands with an engine out of a tractor or even a fire pump? What folly to throw these away - the more I see of them the better I like them...maybe that\'s the nub of the problem!
My favourite thread by the way David - great stuff. You undoubtedly deserve the MRC public service award for 2008/9! (Anyone reading who knows if there is one:- Please take that as a nomination!)
Thanks jinx, and I thought I was becoming a nerdy pain in the jacksy! World domination of the RX7 1st Gen great number plate search will be my next goal. The picture above shows the best side of the B Reg Scrapper. The other sides on e bay are a right mess. Gone down a wall or hit a tree or both.
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Post by: syebba on March 27, 2009, 06:27:29 PM
Yep if they had a ford badge,they\'d be saved!:rolleyes: There won\'t be many left at this scrappage rate:2eek I\'ll catch dave out with one he has\'nt found,i tell u i will,god damnit!:yes Ta...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 28, 2009, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: syebba;594050Yep if they had a ford badge,they\'d be saved!:rolleyes: There won\'t be many left at this scrappage rate:2eek I\'ll catch dave out with one he has\'nt found,i tell u i will,god damnit!:yes Ta...
Keep it up Stu....There\'s still a few on my list with owners and locations but no Registrations, whilst I\'ve a fair few with Registrations but no owners to put with \'em. Stands to reason some of them are one and the same car...every bit of information puts a bit more of the puzzle together.
Now up to 108 Series 3\'s, 32 series 2\'s and still 10 only Series 1\'s. These are all road going or good project cars on SORN, not breaking cars. 80% of the cars have Registrations so no duplication possible there. The other 20%, particularly the 20 or so Series 3\'s without numbers, maybe 10 duplications possible??
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 05, 2009, 09:07:30 PM
Hi David, don\'t forget Neville-just been woken from winter hibernation today like a disgruntled teenager but started first time. He needs a fresh MOT (asap) but he\'s ready for another summer! Been a touch off radar as i\'ve been throwing all my attention at my business and family but he\'s back!
A767NEV, Gold and residing in Dorset
I\'ll dig out the photos of my previous 1st gen that more resembled a tea bag than anything else and let you have the reg details of that one-needless to say it\'s now long gone even Tim @ RX Motors couldnt find a use for it LOL.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 05, 2009, 09:08:42 PM
Pictures of both will follow when my membership status gets upgraded.:Laugh
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 06, 2009, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;596389Hi David, don\'t forget Neville-just been woken from winter hibernation today like a disgruntled teenager but started first time. He needs a fresh MOT (asap) but he\'s ready for another summer! Been a touch off radar as i\'ve been throwing all my attention at my business and family but he\'s back!
A767NEV, Gold and residing in Dorset
I\'ll dig out the photos of my previous 1st gen that more resembled a tea bag than anything else and let you have the reg details of that one-needless to say it\'s now long gone even Tim @ RX Motors couldnt find a use for it LOL.
Hi Captain, good to see you back. Neville has been top of my list of Series 2\'s since I started the register but I never had his Reg. I think it\'s true to say that if we had ever passed on the road I would have said to the wife \'thats Captain Biz and lil\' old Neville flying along\'.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 06, 2009, 11:48:41 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;596390Pictures of both will follow when my membership status gets upgraded.:Laugh
Yes Please, and the Reg of the Scrapper.
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Post by: syebba on April 06, 2009, 06:29:32 PM
. Logged on 15 mins after you to report this one Stu. Dam and blast, you got it 1st. E bay ref 120402614410. Ad says 29,000 miles but stood awhile.
Also on E bay is a Gold 1st Gen Series 2 Elford...Not the stolen one... That\'s certain because this one was on in January as well, I picked it up then. E bay Ref 130298508198.
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Post by: jinx on April 06, 2009, 07:16:09 PM
Dammit now you lot have got me looking at e-bay. I\'m doomed.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 06, 2009, 07:45:51 PM
Right, the light blue 1st gen I had was reg no A277 OYD sadly deceased RIP-any ideas why I cant attach photos it sends me to the \'add URL\' box every time.
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Post by: syebba on April 06, 2009, 08:41:31 PM
@dave,hah!Beat you to it:guinness If that\'s genuinely 29000 miles,that\'d be a G8 buy. @jinx,show some self restraint,err,just window shop:p Ta stuart....
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 06, 2009, 10:58:02 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;596659Right, the light blue 1st gen I had was reg no A277 OYD sadly deceased RIP-any ideas why I cant attach photos it sends me to the \'add URL\' box every time.
No it didnt LOL I give up till I get a lesson in how to use image hosting sites.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 07, 2009, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: David Nock;589622Yep, I use an Apple but windows machines must have similar facilities. First \'export\' your pic from the picture library to desktop but RESIZE as you do that, down to 1000 pixels or less on the largest dimension (the second dimension will auto resize to less than that). Don\'t forget to give an easy name for selecting from your desktop clutter. Then on this forum, use the Go Advanced facility.....Type your Message.....then Manage Attachments......then select the pic from your desktop list which comes up. Press to attach, takes a bit of uploading time, then post. Easy as that, it\'s the resizing that\'s important, otherwise it won\'t upload.
Does this help?
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Post by: rei99 on April 07, 2009, 11:38:36 AM
The Gold Elford isn\'t of someone here right? If it was in another color I will take it, but and Elford with all those spoiler gold no :( There\'s a topic here for more information on the Elford Turbo? I\'ve somethings on the Long\'s book and no more.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 07, 2009, 11:39:24 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;596659Right, the light blue 1st gen I had was reg no A277 OYD sadly deceased RIP-any ideas why I cant attach photos it sends me to the \'add URL\' box every time.
Was it a Series 2 with the 13" cross alloys? \'Cos A reg could also be S3.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 07, 2009, 11:50:26 AM
Quote from: rei99;596833The Gold Elford isn\'t of someone here right? If it was in another color I will take it, but and Elford with all those spoiler gold no :( There\'s a topic here for more information on the Elford Turbo? I\'ve somethings on the Long\'s book and no more.
Morning Davide. I\'m fairly certain that the Gold Elford does not belong to anyone on here. I can\'t recall a particular topic for the Elford - you mean a technical topic I assume? Anyone else??
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Post by: rei99 on April 07, 2009, 11:58:12 AM
:WaveBye Hi David! I was searching every info I could find, also commercial, to say about how many cars were sold, kits and if there a change to find another Elford at a good price non in gold color :D I remember a Blue I\'ve some photos that was sold at 5000puonds about on Ebay months ago... A little too much for me.
With the great import there\'s in Uk from JP, no one Rx-7 Savanna Turbo was arrived there? It will be very interesting have an original version of first turbo gen... Long speaks well of it in the book.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 07, 2009, 12:07:57 PM
I only know of 1, maybe 2 Savannas. 1 is a Series 2 (year of English Reg) Limited Edition Silver Savanna and the other was for sale many years ago near me in Sheffield. That 2nd one was a special import automatic. I don\'t know what reg or where it is now. No turbo Savannas that I am aware of.
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Post by: rei99 on April 07, 2009, 01:52:09 PM
Thanks for info David, gently as usual :cheers
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 07, 2009, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;596834Was it a Series 2 with the 13" cross alloys? \'Cos A reg could also be S3.
She was an S2, I\'ll have another go at the pic situation later in the week I\'m working in London next few days so doing this off my phone and it\'s hard work !
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Post by: syebba on April 07, 2009, 08:42:53 PM
Why oh why, please somebody buy it even if just to get that picnic bench off the poor thing.
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Post by: J_T on April 07, 2009, 09:15:35 PM
There are two as well as that one on ebay ATM. Do you have them all David?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 08, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
Quote from: J_T;597010There are two as well as that one on ebay ATM. Do you have them all David?
Yes Indeed, The poor old thing above was spotted last year in H Hempstead but only a part reg. It was well spotted indeed though, right town and the partial reg was correct.
Real train spotting stuff this has turned out to be....loving it!
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 11, 2009, 10:45:10 PM
Here we go David, eventually!! Sorry about the poor quality of OYD but it\'s a photo of a photo. And a courtesy pic of Neville for luck.
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Post by: Skifledanabit on April 11, 2009, 10:51:14 PM
There\'s one near me, its been parked up, i think its a non runner or a repair jobbie, i\'ll try and get a photo of it.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 12, 2009, 11:18:03 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;598286Here we go David, eventually!! Sorry about the poor quality of OYD but it\'s a photo of a photo. And a courtesy pic of Neville for luck.
Good stuff Captain. Same parking spot I see. Plants on the fence and the gravel have overgrown a bit since OYD.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 12, 2009, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;598289There\'s one near me, its been parked up, i think its a non runner or a repair jobbie, i\'ll try and get a photo of it.
Yes please but don\'t get into terrorism troubles on my account photographing it if it\'s difficult. A note of the Reg, town, colour, Series 1,2,or3 and any big mods like TWR kits or special wheels will do fine. Any repair bills, old MOT certs, the VIN No. off the bulkhead and the tread depth of each tyre we\'ll leave to another time shall we. (Only Joking). I have got a note of a possible stored black Series 1 Elford somewhere in the Essex Area but that\'s by no means certain.
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Post by: Skifledanabit on April 12, 2009, 11:58:59 AM
I saw an Elford with Tim at RXMotors, has anyone been down to see him to take note of what he has in stock?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 12, 2009, 12:20:50 PM
I should email him I suppose; this was suggested but I didn\'t do it. I wouldn\'t want any details of customers cars, that\'s confidential to them, but his stock I would find very interesting. If anyone\'s nearby it would be more than welcome information. Basically my Golden Rules are:- Search out what\'s on ebay/the net or magazine articles/adverts - that\'s available to everyone anyway. Then what\'s visible traveling on the road or visible from the road - that\'s public knowledge again (in spite of this new anti terrorism law - stuff\'s still visible for goodness sake). Then historic records of car trades/ auctions, though they don\'t last long. I\'m then recording things on a fairly detailed Reg List. The final rule is that nothing sensitive like a full Reg No. or VIN No. or exact location must come back onto an internet forum from me.
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Post by: Skifledanabit on April 12, 2009, 12:36:21 PM
Ok, well, next time I\'m down there do you want me to get the info you need from what he has in stock?
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Post by: m_reed on April 12, 2009, 04:30:43 PM
Hi,
I still have mine, its a c reg, c222 uaj, its sorn at the moment, as I got it for project and not got round to doing it yet, but will do eventualy lol,
Mark
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 12, 2009, 06:01:56 PM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;598370Ok, well, next time I\'m down there do you want me to get the info you need from what he has in stock?
Yes Please, Very interested in that. Thanks. David.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 12, 2009, 06:03:38 PM
Quote from: m_reed;598413Hi,
I still have mine, its a c reg, c222 uaj, its sorn at the moment, as I got it for project and not got round to doing it yet, but will do eventualy lol,
Mark
Thanks Mark, I\'ve got it now. What Colour Series 3 is it? North Yorks is right isn\'t it? Or is it Cleveland??
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Post by: m_reed on April 12, 2009, 08:43:54 PM
Not sure on the code for the colour but it is a light blue, and it is cleveland mate ,
Mark
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 13, 2009, 11:19:11 AM
Thanks Mark it\'s the Metallic Blue I think it was called Tender Blue. The Series 3 Rx7 only had about 6 colours.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 13, 2009, 11:54:19 PM
Quote from: David Nock;598350Good stuff Captain. Same parking spot I see. Plants on the fence and the gravel have overgrown a bit since OYD.
Ha, well spotted mate- the pic of OYD is circa 1999 when my mum first bought that house. Fast forward to now and I\'ve still got a 1st gen but now I rent that house off her so it\'s come full circle. I\'ll get some flowers in the window box asap! Gonna leave the drive though, kids have got enough in the garden to throw as it is.
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Post by: mpk490p on April 15, 2009, 08:34:56 PM
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Post by: mad gray on April 22, 2009, 10:18:53 AM
Still working on rebuild of my 1st gen mk1 TWR FOX 199 V in Leicestershire currently been waiting two weeks for suspension bushes to clear customs :Hammer
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2009, 10:58:11 AM
Thanks Stuart, I went straight to ebay after your post. Looks neat this car, so far as one can tell.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2009, 11:00:49 AM
Quote from: mad gray;601285Still working on rebuild of my 1st gen mk1 TWR FOX 199 V in Leicestershire currently been waiting two weeks for suspension bushes to clear customs :Hammer
Thanks ever so much for this one. I\'ve had you down as a 2 tone green in Leicestershire for yonks, but no Reg. That now makes 9 out of 10 registrations for the only 10 Series 1\'s I\'ve come across so far.
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Post by: syebba on May 01, 2009, 12:41:51 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 01, 2009, 05:23:59 PM
Thanks Stu, That was Sean Hoolihans car in the early 2000\'s and Don\'s (on here) more recently.
And now for something completely different, on sale in South Yorks for about £995.....See attachments.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 01, 2009, 05:37:55 PM
Sorry missed the Edit time whilst double checking.....(doing a double take).....It\'s a 1983 convertible selling not for £995, not even for £495 but for £350. Google Sun Local Adverts RX7 Goldthorpe.
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Post by: syebba on May 01, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Someones put a lot of work into that! I like it & for £350:mmmm The boot area has been well crafted. ta stu
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Post by: rei99 on May 02, 2009, 12:12:03 AM
Hi guys! :D I saw the white on Ebay, the owner is not here right? If engine is ok, could be good for me... Also the red, is on selling David? Do you have a link? Thanks & good night! :wave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 02, 2009, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: rei99;604590Hi guys! :D I saw the white on Ebay, the owner is not here right? If engine is ok, could be good for me... Also the red, is on selling David? Do you have a link? Thanks & good night! :wave
email sent direct to you Davide.
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Post by: rei99 on May 03, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
I\'m reading now, very thanks David :cheers
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Post by: rei99 on May 03, 2009, 01:02:35 PM
From PistonHeads (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1019248.htm)
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Post by: rei99 on May 20, 2009, 02:41:44 PM
Hi David! :D I was browsing in the launch\' pause when I found this Elford... Better, seemes and Elford.. You say if the owner of this car (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/club_events/Santapod_2003/Gen1_Black_1.JPG) is here? Just to know somethings more, it\'s very nice for me. Thanks :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 20, 2009, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: rei99;609253Hi David! :D I was browsing in the launch\' pause when I found this Elford... Better, seemes and Elford.. You say if the owner of this car (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/club_events/Santapod_2003/Gen1_Black_1.JPG) is here? Just to know somethings more, it\'s very nice for me. Thanks :)
Hello Davide,
I have previously noted this car from Santa Pod 2003 photos. Unfortunately I don\'t know the owner\'s name or where the car is now. The car is in my section of \'unknown locations\' on the list of FB Series 3.
Does anyone else know who it is and which part of the country the car comes from? 2003 is a fairly long time ago but I cannot believe it will have been allowed to die in the meantime.
By the way, numbers of cars has become steady now. 10 Series 1 (SA), 34 Series 2 (FB), 120 Series 3 (FB).
Cheers David
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Archbish on May 26, 2009, 05:22:10 PM
So, I\'ll swap you the number plate for some VIN info...
The plate C 816 ... the rest is at the end after I\'m helped.
soooo, I am having to stamp a new VIN plate for the car as I\'ve mangled and lost the previous one. Obviously VIN Number & reg plate are on the V5 document along with any other info I need to put on it. But could someone dish up what the different lines on the VIN plate are for (colour, shoe size, star sign, etc)?
Also, how the hell does one have an engine number for a car when a rotary doesn\'t have an engine number (or does it and I haven\'t noticed...)
C 816 OCD
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 27, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
I\'m sure the 12A has an engine No.....but that\'s not on the VIN plate. On the attached photo you\'ll see what\'s on it. This plate is from a 1984 B reg that I pulled for parts some years back, BUT I\'VE TAKEN THE LAST 4 NUMBERS OFF THE END ON PHOTOSHOP. Otherwise the plate is identical to the one you\'ve mangled. The NTA number is common because my 1985 runner has the exact same number. All UK FB\'s Series 3\'s are JMZFB13120070XXXX where XXXX is your individual car number. Have you still got that hammered into the bulkhead metal at the side of the VIN plate mounting place?
I was keeping this plate for sentimental reasons but I\'m a sucker for worthy causes if you want it.
E mail me your address \'cos you can\'t PM and I\'ll send it to you - if you want a scabby old plate that is. dgnock at btopenworld.com
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 27, 2009, 12:43:21 PM
What Happened??
PS the number in the bottom right corner is 8455B, presume the part No. of a blank plate.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Archbish on May 27, 2009, 12:59:04 PM
thanks for the offer dude, but I\'ve got a blank one on the way to stamp up. The VIN number is still on the chassis, and on the V5!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 27, 2009, 01:05:05 PM
Quote from: Archbish;611166thanks for the offer dude, but I\'ve got a blank one on the way to stamp up. The VIN number is still on the chassis, and on the V5!!
Good, so if you just stamp exactly as the photo, with your own last 4 digits you\'ll be back to original.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on June 21, 2009, 03:06:24 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 22, 2009, 12:25:13 PM
Thanks Captain. The seller in Halewood got no bids, so they\'ve relisted at £500.
Also there\'s a Spares/Repair Red Series 3 FB on ebay, in Nottingham. Start price £150. Ref 230350776882
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on June 22, 2009, 12:31:52 PM
Have you logged the really dear one on there too, £2900 starting bids I think but been bubblewrapped for 10 years.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 22, 2009, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;618757Have you logged the really dear one on there too, £2900 starting bids I think but been bubblewrapped for 10 years.
I have now thanks, that car looks really good. David
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on June 22, 2009, 03:14:43 PM
£2900 starting price for the opal green rex. Not really expensive,u get what u pay for usually. Bodywork looks immaculate,wheels/tyres look brand new. Low mileage. If u bought a £500 doer upper,it\'d cost u more to get to that standard. Ta...:evillaugh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on June 29, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: syebba;618831£2900 starting price for the opal green rex. Not really expensive,u get what u pay for usually. Bodywork looks immaculate,wheels/tyres look brand new. Low mileage. If u bought a £500 doer upper,it\'d cost u more to get to that standard. Ta...:evillaugh
Not when your me lol, best £137 I ever spent. Bit of a fluke though admittedly.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on June 29, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
Yes thanks Captain. Lil \'ol Neville for £137 eh, Well I never. Watch out for my separate post about an S2 spares car (well S2 parts really) in Peterborough. If Nev has any poorly bits maybe there\'s something there for him. Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 30, 2009, 12:38:25 PM
Quote from: kiwiracer;621256saw some at japshow parked up fella,maybe somebody took pics
Patrick
Thanks Patrick, I have been looking through the shots. There\'s a nice metallic blue S3 with TWR kit but I think I already know a good bit about that one.... except exactly where it\'s from. It\'s in Yorkshire but that\'s a biggish place...:Thumbs-up David
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on June 30, 2009, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: David Nock;621447Yes thanks Captain. Lil \'ol Neville for £137 eh, Well I never. Watch out for my separate post about an S2 spares car (well S2 parts really) in Peterborough. If Nev has any poorly bits maybe there\'s something there for him. Dave.
Cool cheers David I\'ll have a look
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: grassbox on July 05, 2009, 08:19:21 PM
Hi
Have just got my red 1st generation series 3 on road having been laid up for a few years.
Wow what fun i have had this week in the sun forgotten how good it is to drive it .:Talking1
Just wondering whether you have got my RX7 on your list of 1st gens on the road.
Best wishes
Darran
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 06, 2009, 03:48:43 PM
No, I hadn\'t .... all entered up now. Thanks for the info. That\'s 6 in Hampshire now out of 126 total Series 3\'s in UK and Eire.
36 Series 2\'s and STILL ONLY 10 Series 1\'s.
Good to drive.....I\'ll say...made for country roads and the sun these cars. Any pics Darran?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: grassbox on July 06, 2009, 08:43:46 PM
Will get some pics at weekend and post up for you
Darran
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: J_T on July 06, 2009, 08:51:12 PM
Anyone know if the owner is on any forums as they haven\'t responded to my eBay email
Sorry typing in a thunderstorm with BT broadband is fun... forum service comes and goes 10 to the doz. Yes I have got it thanks, but if I\'m brutally honest I\'ve put it in my scrappers section. Come on someone prove me wrong buy it and restore ....easy to put it back as a runner. But to answer, it\'s the 1st time I\'d seen the car and I don\'t know the ebay handle, except he must be a painter....:)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 07, 2009, 01:09:34 PM
But then I\'ve looked back on ebay and the cars reached £254 with 17 bids.... so who am I to write it off?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: dave1973 on July 13, 2009, 10:14:45 PM
B167 AKM Black 1985 series 3 no mods SORN at present Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on July 13, 2009, 10:38:07 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 14, 2009, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: dave1973;625990B167 AKM Black 1985 series 3 no mods SORN at present Dave
Cheers Dave, duly noted and entered. For your interest, there\'s a Red S3 in your town, also SORNed. Thanks for your post. David.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 14, 2009, 12:58:13 PM
Hi Stu, good work again. I\'d just picked up the top one of your 3 on ebay, squeezed the Reg of the blue scrapper out of the owner by the promise of a free plug on here (Duly Delivered), but the last one I hadn\'t seen. It\'s a Series 2 I think without it\'s spoiler.
Interestingly a car very close to that last one\'s Reg is a serious rally car - with a proper number on the door kind of serious. Ta matey.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on July 18, 2009, 12:03:55 AM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 18, 2009, 12:12:28 PM
In Newcastle eh? Cream Leather......Does that Rotary badge on the back signify it\'s not a UK car? I think it might. No matter, goes on the FB Register just the same. 38 Series 2 FB\'s now.
Thanks bud.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on July 18, 2009, 01:13:51 PM
:wave Hi David! I was also thinking in a USA model, but it\'s THIS (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/MAZDA+RX7/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-240-4294967214-4294967216/advert.action?R=200929337996032&distance=249&postcode=E98+1NW&channel=CARS&make=MAZDA&model=RX7&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1983&vehicleRegLetter=)... Probably had just bought the badge from USA... I\'ve see the email, later I will reply, tomorrow I\'ve a marriage (hope it\'s right word) and I must clean my \'7 for it :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 18, 2009, 05:45:52 PM
I\'ve seen a similar badge before somewhere; on a European or Japanese road car I think it was. But maybe as you say, just got a badge from USA.
Tomorrow you\'ve a wedding.......if you\'re going to attend as a guest. On the other hand, if you\'re going to attend as the Bridegroom you\'ve got a marriage tomorrow. In which case I think you\'d be too busy for chatting to me!
Hope you enjoy the wedding and the run in the \'7.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: james1902 on August 19, 2009, 12:10:02 AM
Hi dave,
it\'s sertainly been a while... unfortunatley i am the bearer of bad news... dont worry it\'s not been crashed. i had to give it back to garry as i got an mk.1 1.8i eunos roadster jap imp as my daily runner and had some work done to it to get it looking nice and to sort the front brakes plus some go faster goodies. i was then made redundant 2 weeks later (again. that\'s twice in 9 months) and as a redundancy pay garry said i could have the work done on the mx5 and the first gen rx untill he saw the bill for the mx5 and asked to keep the rx7. i was totally bummed but still love my roadster... good cheap fun! the miss\'s doesn\'t know it yet but when i get a job i\'m gonna buy the rx7 with my dad as a project as he wants to learn something new too!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: carszommzoomzoom on August 19, 2009, 09:46:27 AM
Selling due to lack of use: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1200851.htm
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 19, 2009, 11:09:25 AM
Quote from: james1902;635663Hi dave,
it\'s sertainly been a while... unfortunatley i am the bearer of bad news... dont worry it\'s not been crashed. i had to give it back to garry as i got an mk.1 1.8i eunos roadster jap imp as my daily runner and had some work done to it to get it looking nice and to sort the front brakes plus some go faster goodies. i was then made redundant 2 weeks later (again. that\'s twice in 9 months) and as a redundancy pay garry said i could have the work done on the mx5 and the first gen rx untill he saw the bill for the mx5 and asked to keep the rx7. i was totally bummed but still love my roadster... good cheap fun! the miss\'s doesn\'t know it yet but when i get a job i\'m gonna buy the rx7 with my dad as a project as he wants to learn something new too!
Sorry to hear the news James. It was a lot easier in my day....leave school....bang in your application for an apprenticeship or traineeship, whatever took your fancy....get accepted by 3 or 4 companies and then decide which one you wanted to accept! I do not envy your generation.
Thanks for the info that Gary\'s got the RX7 again.... I\'ve transferred it back to him. All the best and stay in touch pal. David.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 19, 2009, 11:24:22 AM
Quote from: carszommzoomzoom;635695Selling due to lack of use: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1200851.htm
Thanks for the heads up Paul. David.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 22, 2009, 11:57:28 AM
Hi, I\'ve just found this forum whilst surfing the net and it\'s great to find a forum dedicated to 1st gen RX7\'s. I love these cars, I first saw one, an Elford Turbo whilst on holiday in Bournemouth in 1884 and thought, \'wow, that\'s gorgeous, I\'ll have one of those one day. Quite a bold statement for an 18 years old with a 1.3 Marina!. I didn\'t know what type of car it was, it could have been a Maserati for all I knew, but it was beautiful and I wanted one.
My dream was realised when, 4 years later in 1988 I bought a V reg series 1 in black for 2 grand. Man, I loved that car. I was only 22 when most 22 year olds were aspiring to XR3i and XR2\'s, I had the sleek RX7.
This car was mint and original and low milage but in a crazy moment, I swapped it for a Porsche 924, something I\'ve regretted ever since.
I bought another white RX7 in 1996, an A reg series 2 which was a dog then moved onto other cars.
In 2002, however, a guy at work have a copy of the autotrader and whilst glancing through, I saw an ad for a red C reg series 3 at a car dealer just down the road. He wanted a grand for it and on the way home I called around to have a look. It was all polished up in the middle of his showroom and looked the business, surrounded by run of the mill euroboxes.
The bad news was that it didn\'t run, or rather, it only ran for about a mile then stopped. He\'d taken it in PX hoping to burn around in it himself for a while but couldn\'t get it going, neither could the local garage. I offered him £300 and which he flatly refused saying that it owed him more than that. I left my number with him after depressing him further with exaggerated tales of rotary engine complexity and 2 days later he rang and told me to fetch it for £300!
I half towed it and half drove it the 5 miles back home and it took me 3 weeks to suss that the tiny fuel filters within the carb were block with rust from the tank. Cleaned them out and ran this car everyday for the next year and a half. I finally sold it in 2003 for £900. By co-incidence, a thread on this forum features a photo of the car which I took in 2003 when I put the car on ebay....
The car was a reliable solid useable everday driver in 2003 although the paint was a bit faded. DVLA show no record of it. It would be a pity if it has been scrapped in the 6 years since I sold it, maybe someone has it still.
If anyone does have this car and wants to know some of the history of it, please let me know.
I would love another RX7. I don\'t have one at the moment. I\'ve always wanted a metallic black Series 3 but have never found a really nice one for sale. Most minters seem to be metallic green for some reason! I was amazed to see how few 1st gens remain on our roads.
Buy them up now while you can!
Cheers, Ian
Staffs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 22, 2009, 12:07:57 PM
Does this car already exist on Davids excellent database? I saw this in this weeks autotrader, looks lovely...
the ad says...
A reg, A--WOM, all past Mot\'s, Mazda history, stunning original example, lady owner, loved and garaged, new engine fitted by Mazda done 46,000 miles, recently tuned by an RX-7 specialist who said it was the best hes ever seen. £4,300 ONO.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 23, 2009, 05:47:58 PM
Wow, Ian, thanks for that great write up. Of the 3 cars you\'ve put up in pics I had the white one FUT already. It was advertised for sale in 2001 by a guy in the Birmingham area. The other 2 of yours I didn\'t have the Reg\'s but I have now. I don\'t know if FUT\'s still running but I\'ve put the Black S1 and the Red S3 into the scrapped cars section of my register. The white one WOM I think is for sale at the moment in the Staffs area. I had got it logged, obviously as a runner. Some questions..... Is there a website for DVLA enquiries or did you make a special enquiry to ask about the Black and Red ones? What was the Reg and Colour of the S2 that was a dog, in 1996? Can you remember? Finally did you enjoy your 1884 holiday in Bournemouth? I hope so!:cool
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 23, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
Elford turbo rx7,s were in bournemouth in 1884 & there\'s me thinking the beetle had the longest production run.:confused: Was it a steam powered Elford?:2Confused This is staggering,have you informed mazda that their production dates for rx7\'s need to be corrected?:eek: Keep us posted,were all ignorant about this period in the rx7\'s history.:god Ta...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 23, 2009, 06:45:50 PM
fair enough! Got me! It\'s amazing, no matter how many times you read through a post before you post it, you always end up missing something! I was actually there a 100 years later than I tried to make out,1984!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 23, 2009, 09:12:57 PM
David, the DVLA link I use to check current vehicle status is:
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/
Just click on the vehicle enquiry button.
It\'s free and interesting to check up on your old cars.
I wonder if my old RX7, A24FUT still exists, I\'d love to buy that back and restore it. I\'d also like to buy A84WOM if it\'s still around. That used to belong to a mate of mine, at the same time that I owned A24FUT. according to DVLA it was still taxed until 2004 so maybe it\'s in a lockup somewhere...?
I don\'t think that I have any photos or the reg of the series 2 that I owned in 1996 but I\'ll have a look. I bought it as a restoration project. It was white with a brown interior and \'A\' reg so was on the crossover between series 2 and series 3. It had a Hurley recon engine and I put a new rear valance on it and a clutch slave cylinder but it was a tired car and never drove well. I bought it from Derbyshire for £275 and sold it about 2 months later for around £500.
1st gen RX7s are unfortunately at that stage in their lives where it isn\'t economically viable to restore them, especially considering the high cost of spares for them, unless, like the 2 cars above, you have some nostalgic connection with them. Nice cars are still pretty cheap so sadly, the rough ones with no mot are left to rot. It\'s left to the few enthusiasts of these cars to preserve the ones that are left. I have a real passion for them. I have to stop myself buying everyone that I see, no matter what state it\'s in!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 24, 2009, 11:31:52 AM
Got hold of the DVLA idea now Ian. Very many thanks for that. It will help enormously with the identifying of \'dead\'uns\'. What colour was A84 WOM? Pay no attention to Syebba, (Stuart), he\'s a good egg, keeps posting finds, but lives somewhere near London!!! My fault for pointing out that the Queen might have had a 1st Gen....Victoria that is.:King
Anyway, you\'ve passed the 1st test to be a proper 1st gen contributor... you can take a joke... good man.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 24, 2009, 09:17:39 PM
A84WOM was a white series 3 with a burgundy interior. My mate sold it in 1990. Looked identical to my series 3.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 26, 2009, 09:25:54 PM
Have you got any record of this car on the list David? Listed on Ebay, starting price £200, seller in Plymouth states that it\'s been in the garage for 3 years with high emissions. I haven\'t seen a series 3 Elford before, only series 2\'s Shame there\'s not more pictures. Cheers, Ian
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on August 27, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
Very nice this.... 147000miles are not less for a Turbo 12A... A MKIII will be also a very good car for suspensions/brakes... We need more photos! :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 27, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
Hmm....yes not many Series 3 Elfords. Not many across all the series but the S3 Elford\'s seem to be much fewer, car for car. I had got this one off ebay but initially no pics so I pestered the seller for the Reg!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on August 28, 2009, 11:30:06 AM
QuoteI\'m sorry I dont have any other pictures of the car. The car has not been started for 3 years , the engine burns oil, the rotor tips have worn.
:( rebuild needs. And in Italy it will cost 10times the cost of the car. Damn.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 30, 2009, 10:56:51 PM
1980 series 1 on ebay in Liverpool. Needs love and affection!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 31, 2009, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: Ian65;6385491980 series 1 on ebay in Liverpool. Needs love and affection!
Thanks Ian, got heads up from your post. Pretty rare if it\'s S1, that\'ll make 11 only known examples. My problemo now...squeeze the reg out of the seller.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 31, 2009, 12:11:02 PM
This is a series 1 car, the giveaways being the Baroque depression in the rear slam panel and the thin rubbing strips that run along the sides of the car. These were wider rubber items on series 2 & 3 cars. The rear lights are also series 1 as is the front bumper. A strange thing about series 1 cars is that quite a few didn\'t have factory fitted sunroofs unlike the series 2 and 3 which I believe, all had the \'targa\' type lift out panel. My series 1 had a universal fit sunroof and it looks like this one has too.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 31, 2009, 05:40:13 PM
A sorry looking 1985 \'B\' reg series 3 has popped up on Ebay. Located in Birmingham.
Seems to be the season when people are giving up on their projects.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 31, 2009, 05:49:10 PM
Yes there\'s a few project cars around at the moment. Got the S1 Reg OK, it\'s a 1980 \'W\'. just need the Brummie car reg now!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: grinder on August 31, 2009, 06:04:34 PM
so that black one in liverpool is really rare ???
humm only prob 20-25 miles from me aswell ;)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 31, 2009, 06:29:42 PM
Nearer than that I think Stu, It\'s in Widnes. But yes, only 11 known examples so far. The S1 count is just steady all year at 10 (now 11), whereas the S2 and S3 cars are going up and down as I log \'em down just in time before the the scrappie comes round. The guy Eric has loads of spares as well including 2 stainless exhausts. But what a sight....good old Grinder locked in a bidding war as the price goes up and UP!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 31, 2009, 06:40:41 PM
It\'s a sad situation but it isn\'t really economically viable to restore 1st generation RX7\'s. Although they took America by storm and were / still are very popular in Australia, they were always a niche car in the UK.
This has kept prices low and you can get a nice mot\'d useable car for not very much money which makes restoring them not worthwhile. The main problem with restoring these cars is the high cost of replacement parts. They are either not available or cost the earth in the UK and from the US and OZ where they are to be had, the shipping costs and import duty is prohibitive. (I once imported a power assisted steering box for a 1985 RX7 for the US and the cost was outrageous!)
Series 1 cars suffer even worse as the trim parts are like gold dust.
I\'d love to buy a 1st gen, strip it, media blast the shell and do a full nut and bolt rebuild but theres not much point really when I can buy a nice condition 2 car for little money.
The upshot of this is that abandoned projects tend to be broken for parts and we end up with less and less 1st gens on the roads.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: grinder on August 31, 2009, 07:08:44 PM
humm might just keep an eye on it just incase ;)
always fancied a project car
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 01, 2009, 12:50:16 PM
I think the last Series 1 rebuild post on here was Mr Bishi about 3 years ago. He bought one, a \'V\' Reg, welded in a new floor and all sorts else. Resprayed it White. He was at it for a long time and made a real job of it. Syebba (t\'other Stu) bought it then later it went on to Ireland. The post should still be in 1st Gen section posts Stu (Grinder) if you\'re interested.
By the way, see you all in a couple of weeks, of on my hols with no wi fi. Damn. But the wife\'s pleased..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on September 02, 2009, 05:44:43 AM
Very nice 1 owner low milage series 2 on Ebay. Located in London. Seller asking £2000
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: steve@58freightltd on September 07, 2009, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: David Nock;572985The recent revisit of the Poll on "What RX7 have you got" has reminded me that I have been logging 1st Gens in the UK of which I can be fairly sure are runners or \'good on SORN\', not scappers. I have been doing this for a year now and my records run to 68 cars. Allow the odd 8 which may never come off SORN, or which may be duplicates (cos I\'ve tried hard to keep things straight where I know a cars moved between owners but it gets difficult at times). At this point I reckon there\'s about 60 running cars which have been \'in print\' somewhere, either logged on this club, for sale on e bay or on show at Rotorstock/on Calendars. I\'ve noted a little detail about each car, so if anyone wants to put the Series (1st Gen 1,2 or3), the colour and ideally a partial Reg No. up on here, I\'ll tell you if I\'ve got it logged. It would help to know if any owners are recent purchasers and where the car came from as it may be logged under somewhere else. Regular contributors to the 1st Gen section - Mark, Shaun, Stuart (Syebba), Daverey, Don P, are all duly logged and noted.
All good fun lads, I used to log Rotherham Corporation Bus Reg Nos as a youngster in the 1950\'s. You get old but your brain still works the same!
PS, I don\'t mind logging \'whole shell scrappers\' as well if they\'re stil on a Reg No. to ID them.
Is mine the oldest then Reg FMX 600V its a 79 model?Been sat in my garage for years as the family have now outgrown it.It WILL be back on the road next summer,just need to source some parts beforehand....Steve.:burnout
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Post by: Ian65 on September 07, 2009, 04:03:07 PM
Welcome to the forum Steve. As FMX 600V was 1st registered in Sept 1979, it stands a good chance of being one of the earliest. Series 1\'s are very few and far between these days, I haven\'t seen one on the roads in everyday use for years. Nice cars, I loved mine!! Cheers, Ian
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Post by: steve@58freightltd on September 07, 2009, 04:10:59 PM
I love mine too thats why I kept her.Shes been with me longer than my first wife ever did.
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Post by: Ian65 on September 07, 2009, 05:19:51 PM
I can identify with that.... my series 1 was 100 times more reliable than my ex dragon!!!
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Post by: Ian65 on September 13, 2009, 09:52:58 PM
A new one. You\'re taking advantage of me \'cos I\'ve been away. Got the Aberdeen one and just seen that Ian\'s bought the Worcester one (Now a Staffs one)..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 16, 2009, 06:54:02 PM
I also have some pics but cant attach them, think its cos Im a new boy. Keith...
Many welcomes Keith. It\'s Metallic Blue Yes? Thanks for the scrapper numbers too.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 16, 2009, 07:00:14 PM
Quote from: steve@58freightltd;639942Is mine the oldest then Reg FMX 600V its a 79 model?Been sat in my garage for years as the family have now outgrown it.It WILL be back on the road next summer,just need to source some parts beforehand....Steve.:burnout
Not quite Steve, A couple of Imports exist that are \'T\' plates and there\'s a slightly earlier \'V\' Reg Aug 1979...before the change to Sept 1st Registration. Only 11 S1\'s though now the black one in Widnes/ North Wales is being broken. What colour is yours please?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 16, 2009, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: Ian65;641206For spares or repair on Ebay in the Northeast...
I think it\'s posted by Cal on here too? Interestingly the next Reg to this one is also a Met Blue S3, registered same day. Might have been a company deal? Who knows. The other one\'s on SORN in Norfolk now.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 17, 2009, 07:35:48 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;641985It certainly is metallic blue with TWR front bumper and rear spoiler. Will post some pics as soon as I can, Keith...
Yep....thanks. It was for sale on ebay in Bathgate, West Lothian a month or two back...same seller at a guess.
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Post by: steve@58freightltd on September 18, 2009, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: David Nock;641957Not quite Steve, A couple of Imports exist that are \'T\' plates and there\'s a slightly earlier \'V\' Reg Aug 1979...before the change to Sept 1st Registration. Only 11 S1\'s though now the black one in Widnes/ North Wales is being broken. What colour is yours please?
Dave Mine was Green when it left palmers garage in Sidcup back in 79.Now its white but going back to Green later unless the wife gets her way then it\'ll purple..........:spank
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 19, 2009, 11:20:28 AM
Quote from: steve@58freightltd;642558Dave Mine was Green when it left palmers garage in Sidcup back in 79.Now its white but going back to Green later unless the wife gets her way then it\'ll purple..........:spank
Thanks Steve, duly noted...We\'ll watch out for another purple peril then. (there\'s Tim White\'s Purple machine to do some style copies from!!)
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Post by: Ian65 on September 20, 2009, 08:02:08 AM
Early series 2 project on Ebay, KYO 531X, in Cornwall.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 20, 2009, 06:18:12 PM
Thank you, duly noted. Looks like they\'ve found the rear wheel arch trouble spot. I wondered why it had got a strong bid on it then saw it\'s trimmed in black leather and its got a dinky little carb (Webber?) and spares with it.
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Post by: Rotaryguru on September 22, 2009, 12:39:09 PM
Hi David, I saw a mint S3 yesterday, Cream coloured, with a great pulse. AVG 618W. Is it on your list? :driving
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 22, 2009, 05:06:12 PM
No it isn\'t, but is it a Series 3 1st gen or a Series 1? The Reg and the colour suggests S1 but of course you can make a car look older with a transferred plate. Where was it roughly? Thanks very much.
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Post by: Ian65 on September 22, 2009, 08:23:58 PM
DVLA records show that this car was manufactured in 1981 but 1st registered in the UK on 26.04.1999. An import perhaps? or error in DVLA\'s records!
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Post by: Rotaryguru on September 23, 2009, 07:15:45 AM
Quote from: David Nock;643326No it isn\'t, but is it a Series 3 1st gen or a Series 1? The Reg and the colour suggests S1 but of course you can make a car look older with a transferred plate. Where was it roughly? Thanks very much.
It was a pearl white kind of colour. Driven by an older lady. It was obviously garaged, and may have been street ported by the sound of it. Definately a Series 2/3.
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Post by: Rotaryguru on September 23, 2009, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Rotaryguru;643430It was a pearl white kind of colour. Driven by an older lady. It was obviously garaged, and may have been street ported by the sound of it. Definately a Series 2/3.
And I\'ve seen it twice, both times in Kingston (SW London).
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 23, 2009, 02:40:24 PM
Thanks again for that. Maybe an S2 import then if it\'s a 1981 on DVLA.
What about the older lady? Was she tidy? A fit old bird perhaps? Leerish grin.:D
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Post by: syebba on September 27, 2009, 08:07:51 PM
Can\'t get piccy up. On classiccars.co.uk series 3 widebody,reg B47YSU up 4 sale @ £12995...... Ta...
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Post by: myatt1972 on September 27, 2009, 08:25:02 PM
I wonder whats going on under the bonnet ? Keith..
YIJ366 ,1980 @ £350 in Sunderland on justgoodcars.com
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Post by: daverey on September 27, 2009, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: syebba;644384Can\'t get piccy up. On classiccars.co.uk series 3 widebody,reg B47YSU up 4 sale @ £12995...... Ta...
It used to belong to a guy named Paul, had the user name riber3. If I recall he had a 3 litre Vauxhall Omega engine under the bonnet.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 28, 2009, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: daverey;644416It used to belong to a guy named Paul, had the user name riber3. If I recall he had a 3 litre Vauxhall Omega engine under the bonnet.
Yep, that\'s what I had down for it. Presume it\'s Paul that\'s selling. He wanted a swop for something suitable a few months ago.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 28, 2009, 06:00:54 PM
YIJ366 ,1980 @ £350 in Sunderland on justgoodcars.com
Ah now, The Resurrection Shuffle begins. This car was going to be broken for parts in Newcastle in March. An occasion for a car on the scrapper list to rejoin the list of the living. Well spotted Stu.
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Post by: syebba on September 30, 2009, 07:09:33 PM
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 01, 2009, 07:51:06 AM
Hi David, have you got the details of the C plater that Donavon is breaking at the mo on another thread too?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 01, 2009, 06:33:26 PM
Thanks guys, the fleabay one looks quite reasonable for what seems to be a car last run 15 years ago. And the C plate being broken, I\'m on to it Capt. He might have 2 cars scrapping.....lucky day if I can extract the magic numbers!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 01, 2009, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: David Nock;645372And the C plate being broken, I\'m on to it Capt. He might have 2 cars scrapping.....lucky day if I can extract the magic numbers!
Better than that - 1 scrapping, 1 runner ongoing. Had the first (C plater) but not the second car - a Series 2.:Snoring Cum\'on guys, wake up, this is interesting!
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Post by: syebba on October 01, 2009, 09:43:58 PM
Hah, I knew from don he was keeping the series 2,beat ya!! But u were the first to post. No more holidays for u dave this is a full time job 4 life!! Ta Stu..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 01, 2009, 11:47:56 PM
^^^^^^hahahahahahaha^^^^^^^^ your dooooooomed
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Post by: syebba on October 03, 2009, 07:37:12 PM
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Post by: Ian65 on October 03, 2009, 07:44:37 PM
It was up on ebay a month back, wonder if it\'s the same seller, he\'s also flogging A859 XGG, the white series 3.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 03, 2009, 08:02:17 PM
No, different seller. At least diff location. The Silver car was up in Aberdeen and has joined the white car very recently. They\'re both for sale in Shotts now. Interesting.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 03, 2009, 08:17:51 PM
Quote from: Ian65;641206For spares or repair on Ebay in the Northeast...
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Post by: Ian65 on October 04, 2009, 11:54:51 AM
yeah, could be a cheap rolling resto for someone if it\'s now got 12 months ticket. I actually thought about buying this for parts when I first saw it for sale when Cal was selling it, I\'m glad I didn\'t now seeing as it\'s back on the road. Some cars are obviously past restoring but it\'s a real shame to break these cars if there\'s any chance of them going back on the road. Hope someone buys it and gives it some tlc.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 05, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
This red 1983 series 2, DYY 66Y, is up for auction at Anglia Car auctions on 17.10.09.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 05, 2009, 06:29:41 PM
Another new one. Well spotted Ian.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 05, 2009, 06:56:32 PM
Dave, what are the latest totals for the 1st gens, runners and sorned?
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Post by: syebba on October 05, 2009, 07:57:36 PM
How on earth did you find that one!!:2Rolleyes Apparently there\'s 100\'s of 1st gen rx7,s forming a new G8 barrier reef off the south coast,can you track these down Ian?:Typing Ta Stu:rolleyes:
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Post by: Ian65 on October 05, 2009, 08:20:04 PM
I can\'t believe I found it myself!
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Post by: ronaldlo on October 05, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
my series1 1979 here but need some work on it,,(http://i38.tinypic.com/1jt7v8.jpg)
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 06, 2009, 05:53:42 AM
not sure if you have mine A89VUW gen 1 series 3 in silver also had a c reg one also in silver (will find out the reg later in the week but i beleave its no longer) and stripped C580EHU ( lhd with kuwi body kit, brown leather interia and a stright dash
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: ronaldlo;646137my series1 1979 here but need some work on it,,(http://i38.tinypic.com/1jt7v8.jpg)
Hello Ronald, Welcome mate. Your Series 1 car has been near the top of my register of S1\'s for quite a while. It was in Oxfordshire? And I knew you had it over in Ireland. It\'s one of only 2 \'T\' Registered cars on my list that are runners or SORN. Dave.
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Post by: ronaldlo on October 06, 2009, 04:43:27 PM
hi Dave my S1\' Registered HLF172T(http://i34.tinypic.com/qnwpj9.jpg)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;646173not sure if you have mine A89VUW gen 1 series 3 in silver also had a c reg one also in silver (will find out the reg later in the week but i beleave its no longer) and stripped C580EHU ( lhd with kuwi body kit, brown leather interia and a stright dash
Believe it or not but your Reg has driven me crazy. Your Silver car has been on my list for yonks but no Reg No. to link to it - so thanks very much indeed. And C580 EHU has been on my register with it\'s number, but as a runner, location not known. Moved it now to the list of known scrappers. So 2 birds together, Thanks mate. PS - You might have the only 1st Gen left in Cambs if my collecting is anything to go by! Please let me have that 3rd car Reg... Hope to see more of you and Ron (Ireland) on the 1st Gen Forum. Dave.:driving
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: Ian65;646039Dave, what are the latest totals for the 1st gens, runners and sorned?
For Series 1: Total 11
For Series 2: Total 41
For Series 3: Total 125
If you think there\'s not been an increase in the S2\'s and S3\'s, in spite of all your great spotting (everyone....many thanks for your interest), then that\'s because I\'ve been decreasing them in line with that DVLA search you told me about Ian. If a car\'s gone from the DVLA database I\'ve been moving it to the Scrappers pile. I think that\'s about right. As you know I can\'t get Excel spreadsheets to upload to the forum, so I\'ve uploaded in Word in the past, which isn\'t quite so good. If anyone wants the Excel sheet however, showing rough locations of cars please let me have an email address. As before though NO registrations and NO exact locations will be revealed. dgnock at btopenworld dot com
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Post by: Ian65 on October 06, 2009, 05:40:11 PM
Quote from: David Nock;646269For Series 1: Total 11
For Series 2: Total 41
For Series 3: Total 125
Thanks for that David, that\'s really suprised me. I would have thought that there would have been more cars than that. Are these numbers just licensed cars or licensed and sorned, or even licensed, sorned and unlicensed?
If you please email me the excel doc, I\'d be fascinated to read it.
My email is ian08 at sky dot com
Cheers, Ian
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 05:45:41 PM
Just gonna do it but the wife\'s shouting about helping with the wallpapering. Got to go.... will send tomorrow matey.
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Post by: A7RXY on October 06, 2009, 06:19:29 PM
David, could you also send me a copy, you have my email.
Cheers Dibs
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 06, 2009, 06:32:48 PM
Quote from: David Nock;646265Believe it or not but your Reg has driven me crazy. Your Silver car has been on my list for yonks but no Reg No. to link to it - so thanks very much indeed. And C580 EHU has been on my register with it\'s number, but as a runner, location not known. Moved it now to the list of known scrappers. So 2 birds together, Thanks mate. PS - You might have the only 1st Gen left in Cambs if my collecting is anything to go by! Please let me have that 3rd car Reg... Hope to see more of you and Ron (Ireland) on the 1st Gen Forum. Dave.:driving
one would assume this but the is a b reg one in the next village over from me its white with red inserts in the alloys owned by a old guy in his 80\'s i beleave hes owned it from new will find out the reg of that one as well as my old one
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 06, 2009, 08:44:53 PM
Another e-bay special, Keith. (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/usg698y.jpg?t=1254858169)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: David Nock;646279Just gonna do it but the wife\'s shouting about helping with the wallpapering. Got to go.... will send tomorrow matey.
Later on....Goodoh... CSI\'s come on the telly so the wife\'s off catching homicidal maniacs in the States. Something much more interesting for me. Ian and Dibs I\'ve sent the Excel sheet.... Dibs I realised your car colour was not picked up... corrected now. Dave.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 10:31:32 PM
Quote from: Ian65;646277Thanks for that David, that\'s really suprised me. I would have thought that there would have been more cars than that. Are these numbers just licensed cars or licensed and sorned, or even licensed, sorned and unlicensed?
If you please email me the excel doc, I\'d be fascinated to read it.
Cheers, Ian
About 40% to 50% of those numbers are SORNED or unlicenced at DVLA, therefore only about half are running on the roads/on track at the present time.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;646288one would assume this but the is a b reg one in the next village over from me its white with red inserts in the alloys owned by a old guy in his 80\'s i beleave hes owned it from new will find out the reg of that one as well as my old one
Yes please, very much appreciated and thanks again.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2009, 10:50:23 PM
I know this car, it\'s the only UK 1st Gen convertible I\'ve ever come across. Possibly an after market body job? It was on ebay earlier this year and located quite near to me in Yorkshire. However I can\'t find it on ebay now. What did you search under Keith?
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 07, 2009, 12:13:47 AM
It was under parts. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270465848485&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Keith.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 07, 2009, 12:01:48 PM
Thanks Keith. As said the wheels and exhaust are probably worth it to any Series 2 owner. Plus there\'s the Clarion CD and Weber Carb. Thanks again Dave
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Post by: Ian65 on October 07, 2009, 04:19:06 PM
I often thought that the 1st gen would look good as a convertible...
Seems I was wrong.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 07, 2009, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: David Nock;646340About 40% to 50% of those numbers are SORNED or unlicenced at DVLA, therefore only about half are running on the roads/on track at the present time.
That\'s surprised me. Even if you allow for the cars that are owned but not on the list, the numbers are very low.
Shouldn\'t we be seeing a corresponding rise in values in view of their scarcity?
No wonder you never see any on the roads anymore.
Thanks for the excel file by the way David!
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Post by: Rotaryguru on October 07, 2009, 04:37:04 PM
Theres heaps of those in Australia. They were made by a company that imported them, and then cut the tops off. Some look good.
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Post by: A7RXY on October 07, 2009, 04:46:45 PM
Back in 81/82 a company in the California converted the ser 2 gen 1 they were called Pacific Avatar and the car Avatar 82 it had a 13B in it and a top speed of 167mph, cost $45000, a freind working in the states at the time sent me details of it, which I still have, and this was a very good looking car. I dont have a scanner so I can not post them on here.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 07, 2009, 06:28:19 PM
Quote from: Ian65;646497I often thought that the 1st gen would look good as a convertible...
Seems I was wrong.
You may think that.....I couldn\'t possibly comment.:rolleyes:
Anyway, I\'ve moved it to the pile of potential spares cars, I think the individual parts are now more valuable and I doubt it will be roadgoing again. Com\'on someone, I\'m dying to be proved wrong.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 07, 2009, 06:55:46 PM
can i have a copy of the list please chubb_meatball@hotmail.com cheers when you say my reg has driven you crazy how long have you had it with out a reg?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 08, 2009, 04:18:19 PM
List Sent. Hope it\'s of interest. Your car has been about half way down on my list (of Registered Numbers not of locations) for quite a long time..don\'t really know how long, probably since I first saw your resto post. (Did you start that in 2008)? Anyway, as I skimmed down the list there was always a gap in the Series 3 Registrations where yours would have gone. I like to have things complete so I kept staring at this gap wondering \'How to complete this line\'. Then you posted on MRC out of the blue to tell me. So thanks again.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 08, 2009, 08:31:48 PM
yeah I did start in 2008 although it is now going to be tornado silver not mica blue with the body kit off c580ehu :D
the reg off my other rx7 was c922ekl it was also sunbeam silver, i sold that in 2007? i think on ebay then it was on there again 2 or 3 weeks later not sure what happend to it after that
both of my cars came from exeter devon
the other one in camberigershire is a340uav its white not a b reg as i thought it was :3Confused he has also broken 2 or 3 as well
hope this helps you out a bit
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 08, 2009, 08:32:42 PM
cheers for the list its quite interesting cheers
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 09, 2009, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;646755yeah I did start in 2008 although it is now going to be tornado silver not mica blue with the body kit off c580ehu :D
the reg off my other rx7 was c922ekl it was also sunbeam silver, i sold that in 2007? i think on ebay then it was on there again 2 or 3 weeks later not sure what happend to it after that
both of my cars came from exeter devon
the other one in camberigershire is a340uav its white not a b reg as i thought it was :3Confused he has also broken 2 or 3 as well
hope this helps you out a bit
Yes, thanks, all entered up now. To me the KL suffix on EKL is interesting.. there\'s a whole cluster of Series 3 1st Gens that use that suffix, as in BKL, CKL, EKL. Thats saying that all these cars probably came out of the same dealers in the Maidstone area around the autumn of 1985. (There\'s also some UKL Series 2\'s from a few years before). Another cluster comes from the KP suffix, where 5 No. \'DKP\' Series 3 1st Gens were registered on the same day in November 1985, also in the Maidstone area, probably the same dealer as the KL\'s. Any body know who?
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Post by: A7RXY on October 09, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
David, Mazda UK used to be in Tunbridge Wells, and that comes under the Maidstone reg area, also at that time not all dealers were rotary dealers.
Dibs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 09, 2009, 04:52:45 PM
Ah, that\'s very likely then. I was going to say that some dealer must have had quite good bonuses in 1985! Maybe the 5 DKP\'s were company cars!
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Post by: A7RXY on October 09, 2009, 05:40:16 PM
They could have also been the final batch of gen 1\'s from Japan, as about that time they started to build the gen 2. I know some were reg\'d in 86 but I think these had been standing around for a while.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 09, 2009, 06:01:22 PM
The early press cars, FKN 310V, FKJ 414V, FKJ 417V, FKJ 418V also had Kent number codes I believe, seemingly having been registered by Mazda UK when they arrived in the UK.
I wonder if any of them survive?
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Post by: A7RXY on October 09, 2009, 06:14:16 PM
I remember one of them being green, I think it was FKN.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 09, 2009, 06:57:39 PM
417V was red, and I think that FKN 310V was silver. FKN was the original demonstrator when the RX7 went on sale in the UK on 1st September 1979.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 09, 2009, 07:58:24 PM
Quote from: Ian65;646938The early press cars, FKN 310V, FKJ 414V, FKJ 417V, FKJ 418V also had Kent number codes I believe, seemingly having been registered by Mazda UK when they arrived in the UK.
I wonder if any of them survive?
There was another which was being rallied as recently as 2007. FKJ 419V. It\'s in my Register of live cars. I\'m led to believe that it was also one of the first batch with FKJ 420V (below).
FKJ 407V (Silver Grey) and FKJ 420V (White) have also been reported on over the years but I think they\'ll be dead now.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 12:05:12 AM
David, do you have these on your list?
B355 KPB Green 1st reg: 01.09.1984 Vin: JMZFB1312007105109 Engine: 12A2365021 ( maybe incorrect vin)currently licenced --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- B668 TKR Green 1st reg: 28.01.1985 last licence expired 26.03.2009
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/B668TKR.jpg) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LTP 197Y White 1st reg: 14.01.1983 Vin: JMZFB131200663437 Engine: 12A2276797Elford Turbo last licence expired 01.03.2007
Cheers, Ian
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 12:21:03 AM
B355 KPB correct vin: JMZFB131200710719 Cheers, Ian
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 11, 2009, 04:06:01 PM
Yes thanks Ian, Got all 3:- B355 I\'ve got noted as a smart looking car, low miles.(56,000 ish). Got an Export Marker against it. The VIN is indeed odd, 701719 I\'ve got at the end, seems a lower number than you would expect from an \'84 car. Maybe not UK originally or it\'s still wrong. B668 was up for sale this spring, 197Y I\'d moved into my broken up pile as it wasn\'t sold in an auction in 2006 and has been unlicenced since \'07.
Got all these 3 but KEEP \'EM COMING. I\'ve no engine numbers at all as yet....too much info to record I thought and really the shell is the thing. Any thoughts on that?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 11, 2009, 07:29:09 PM
Hi David, as you\'re list is getting rather detailed I\'ll PM you Nevilles VIN if you like...no point doing engine number though as not original.
Tim
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: David Nock;647185Got all these 3 but KEEP \'EM COMING. I\'ve no engine numbers at all as yet....too much info to record I thought and really the shell is the thing. Any thoughts on that?
I agree, engines change and would be difficult to track. I reckon you\'ve got enough to do trying to keep track of the shells, especially when they keep moving around via Ebay, going on and off sorn etc. Vins are good though to help determine build dates etc.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 11, 2009, 07:51:50 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;647227Hi David, as you\'re list is getting rather detailed I\'ll PM you Nevilles VIN if you like...no point doing engine number though as not original.
Tim
Yes Please Capt. It will be interesting because I\'ve got a good few S3 VINS but not many S2\'s and I\'m seeking to prove that the S2\'s had a slightly different ending to the VIN before the individual car No. occurred.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 08:17:15 PM
David, have you got this one as well?
C967 BKR Black Elford Turbo 1st reg: 10.09.1985 Currently licensed Vin: JMZFB131200704177 Engine: 12A126020
Cheers, Ian
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 08:26:56 PM
or this one....
B644 GAM red series 3 1st reg: 03.05.1985 Currently licensed vin: 00702798 engine: 385843
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 08:30:49 PM
or this...
B560 XHW red series 3 1st reg: 25.03.1985 currently on sorn until 01.08.2010
Vin: JMZFB1312007
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 11, 2009, 08:32:18 PM
is there any way to find out a engine number from a reg no.?
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 08:35:07 PM
C311TPD silver series 3 1st reg: 01.03.1986 Currently unlicensed
vin: JMZFB131200703779 engine: 12A2408342
This car is up for auction by Barons on 26th / 27th Oct 2009
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Post by: Ian65 on October 11, 2009, 09:11:29 PM
found another...
C177BKL blue series 3 1st reg: 01.08.1985
Currently licensed.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 12, 2009, 07:42:17 AM
forgot to add my car (A89VUW) is a import not sure from where was first regested in 1988 (first regested in and lived in swansea lived in somerset the yeovil) in my history there is a piece of paper saying that it was ownd by the wife of an ambassador of some foreign country if anyone knows a bit more about the car i would be interested to know cheers michael:cheers
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: Ian65;647251David, have you got this one as well?
C967 BKR Black Elford Turbo 1st reg: 10.09.1985 Currently licensed Vin: JMZFB131200704177 Engine: 12A126020
Cheers, Ian
Yes, photo\'d at Santa Pod 2003 by MRC. Thanks for the VIN.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: Ian65;647256or this one....
B644 GAM red series 3 1st reg: 03.05.1985 Currently licensed vin: 00702798 engine: 385843
Yes from Bridgewater Auctions 2004.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 03:53:49 PM
Quote from: Ian65;647260or this...
B560 XHW red series 3 1st reg: 25.03.1985 currently on sorn until 01.08.2010
Vin: JMZFB1312007
Bridgewater Auctions again 2004, but also on ebay 2008.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: Ian65;647266This car is up for auction by Barons on 26th / 27th Oct 2009
C311 Previously Barons Auctions 2008 and Amberley Autojumble 2007. Has an Export Flag against it on DVLA so interesting that it\'s not gone anywhere as yet. Will watch out for it as it goes back to Auction.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 03:59:35 PM
Quote from: Ian65;647275found another...
C177 blue series 3 1st reg: 01.08.1985
Currently licensed.
Long Term member on here. Had a lot of work done to the car to make it as new.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 04:01:08 PM
Phew Ian, head spinning here to keep pace. You\'re finding in days what took me months. Never mind, keep going mate.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;647262is there any way to find out a engine number from a reg no.?
No way that I know of; it\'s not picked up in the VIN either. The original V5 for the car will give the engine number as fitted when it left the factory but so many exchanges take place in these older cars that I have ignored any engine number information so far.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2009, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;647330forgot to add my car (A89VUW) is a import not sure from where was first regested in 1988 (first regested in and lived in swansea lived in somerset the yeovil) in my history there is a piece of paper saying that it was ownd by the wife of an ambassador of some foreign country if anyone knows a bit more about the car i would be interested to know cheers michael:cheers
It first came to my notice from your blog. I will note to keep an eye on the reg now to see if anyone else comments on the Diplomatic connection. (By the way ratbag Diplomats didn\'t usually have to pay parking fines so any old tickets under the seats you can throw away:Thumbs-up). UW was issued as a London plate when registered in 1988 so that fits, the car itself seems to have been built in 1984.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 12, 2009, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: David Nock;647439No way that I know of; it\'s not picked up in the VIN either. The original V5 for the car will give the engine number as fitted when it left the factory but so many exchanges take place in these older cars that I have ignored any engine number information so far.
ok the only reasion i aks is that i im going to put the engine from c580ehu in to a89vum but the engine number is not readable and i dont have the paper work for the car
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Post by: Donavan on October 12, 2009, 07:56:58 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 13, 2009, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;647469ok the only reasion i aks is that i im going to put the engine from c580ehu in to a89vum but the engine number is not readable and i dont have the paper work for the car
Ah is that engine a 12A or a 13B? In the latter case you really should tell DVLA and your insurance company to make sure you\'re properly covered. No engine number might be a problem. I\'m sure someone must have a way forward? Like a clever way of reading the number?
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 14, 2009, 08:53:35 AM
its just another little 12a i can read the frist 2 or 3 numbers but not the rest (http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p346/mooragerx7/DSCF3617.jpg) (http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p346/mooragerx7/DSCF3620.jpg) any one help??
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 14, 2009, 05:34:04 PM
Make your best attempt to read the numbers and just have a stab at what the numbers look like. For a straight 12A to 12A swop I doubt anyone at DVLA or Insurance Company will be bothered provided you try your best at reading them. 2003983 it looks like to me.
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Post by: syebba on October 14, 2009, 06:01:38 PM
The 1st four nos look like 2003,last nos looks like 3 as well. Try cleaning it up a bit more with a wire brush,then give the area a quick spray with red paint,then lightly rub off to reveal the numbers,the paint should sit in the numbers. Ta ..
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 14, 2009, 06:49:50 PM
will what im going for is the swop and the change the size to 1200 like it should be as being from new zealand they were all 1200\'s for the 12a and 1300 for the 13b so was gonna try my luck :evillaugh
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Post by: syebba on October 14, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
Ur not the guy doing the major resto on the silver rex on another forum are you? Ta Stu..:Typing
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Post by: Ian65 on October 14, 2009, 07:40:53 PM
I think it is... big resto project by the look of it. Respect!!
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Post by: syebba on October 14, 2009, 07:52:10 PM
Haha,if it is him,who am i to tell him to spray the engine numbers!:spank Ta Stu..
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 14, 2009, 09:00:38 PM
yeah that would be me the car looked fairly clean when i bought her :flamed but paint and bog hides a lot :eek:
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Post by: Ian65 on October 14, 2009, 09:10:51 PM
fair play to you for sticking with it , that roof repair looked a mare to carry out! Looking forward to seeing the end result!
Cheers, Ian
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 14, 2009, 09:18:04 PM
cheers i think that if i had known i wouldent have bothered to be honest :eek
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Post by: A7RXY on October 14, 2009, 09:36:00 PM
hi Guys has any one got a link to the forum showing the resto...........
Dibs
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Post by: syebba on October 14, 2009, 10:26:08 PM
Google his name & u should find it. Ta.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 15, 2009, 08:52:06 AM
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Post by: A7RXY on October 15, 2009, 10:03:49 AM
Cheers for that, some real work done on that, so glad I had waxoyled when I brought it in 89, just wish I could get it running ok after standing for 11 years.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on October 15, 2009, 03:50:10 PM
if it makes you feel better mines not running any more so ill pull the engine out once iv moved and find out why
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Post by: A7RXY on October 15, 2009, 03:59:13 PM
Sorry to hear that, mine ran great when it was put away, have now had the carb rebuilt, new petrol filter, new leads, rotor arm and cap now waiting for new petrol pump to come, and we have tested the comp and thats ok.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 16, 2009, 08:21:48 PM
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Post by: syebba on October 16, 2009, 09:19:02 PM
That looks like a scrapper to me,lots of rust spots,on inner wings as well,brakes not working,dents. May it rust in peace! Ta Stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on October 16, 2009, 10:22:44 PM
you\'re right there, it\'ll take plenty of enthusiasm and money to get that sorted. Looks like a parts car to me too, sadly...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 17, 2009, 11:20:14 AM
Oh dear, completely missed it by not working at my Register \'till midnight. Went to t\'club and had a few beers instead.:guinness How can I make up for this? (Need a self - flagellation emoticon here guys).
I\'m sure you\'re right fellow car twitchers; registration straight onto the scrappers list for this poor motor. In there I\'ve found it\'s brother, 10 numbers up, also a White S2, last seen at Brooklands meet, 2003. This other car distinguished by a black coach line on the wing top edge and consigned to the scrap pile merely by my thoughts..(advancing years)....must DVLA A959 to check it out.
TA FOLKS.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 17, 2009, 11:58:52 AM
Wooh... A959 lives; on SORN somewhere. So it\'s an ill wind - - A949 takes its brother\'s place in the scrap pile and 959 leaps off the scrappers page back into the land of the living.
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Post by: A7RXY on October 17, 2009, 12:33:17 PM
Oh David the ups and downs of a live register.................
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2009, 02:04:52 PM
It goes to show how something that you\'d think to be a relatively simple task, keeping a register of known cars, is actually a difficult thing to keep on top of, with the status of live cars, sorns and scrap cars constantly changing. Fair play to you David for sticking with it and keeping it as current as poss.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 17, 2009, 04:00:45 PM
Thank you friends, but it\'s no effort if it\'s something you find interesting (which I do).
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2009, 04:54:46 PM
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2009, 05:18:28 PM
Since keeping a lookout for cars for this list, it\'s made me realise that the majority of 1st gen cars offered for sale are \'project cars\' requiring various degrees of restoration either to mot them or to get them into condition 1. It\'s surprising really, given that these were quite a sought after car back in the day, that many of them seem to have ended up with unsympathetic owners which has led to their demise. Even the car which I have just bought with 12mts mot is best described as a good condition 2 car and needs work to bring it back up to condition 1. It also seems to show that the enthusiasts owning the very good 1st gens aren\'t moving them on very often. Prices for the less than perfect cars have never been lower. Surely these 1st gens must be one of the true bargains of the classic car world at the moment.
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Post by: syebba on October 17, 2009, 08:30:18 PM
Back on ebay again,buyer pulled out. Ta Stu..:Typing
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 18, 2009, 11:38:28 AM
Quote from: Ian65;648497It also seems to show that the enthusiasts owning the very good 1st gens aren\'t moving them on very often. Prices for the less than perfect cars have never been lower. Surely these 1st gens must be one of the true bargains of the classic car world at the moment.
I think that\'s dead right. The few cars that look absolutely \'ace\' on the adverts (Silver Aberdeen S3, Ex Mechanic\'s Light Blue S2, London, Light Blue S2 with snazzy wheels, Cork), are all been accompanied by the words \'No Offers\'. Then if they\'ve not sold they\'ve been pulled off the meerkat.
Dave Collins did exactly that with his beauty a couple of years back. And as we know he\'s still got it and enjoying it.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 18, 2009, 11:47:07 AM
Thanks Stu and Ian (both again) for the Torbay and Lincoln cars.
Now up to 133No./40No./11No. respectively S3/S2 and S1. Running or SORN.
Good few admissions to the list over the last week or so - finding some SORN cars on DVLA that I thought were scrapped. This is the reverse of where I was up to a bit back...finding no record on DVLA of cars that I had assumed would still be alive. So a bit of sea sawing about until I\'ve trailed down to the last car on the the last list in the Dead Pool.
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Post by: A7RXY on October 18, 2009, 04:53:40 PM
Looks like another parts car, plenty of rot etc.... off road since June 2005
Cheers, Ian
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Post by: syebba on October 18, 2009, 09:14:08 PM
Hmmm,those wheels look like the ones off a 2.8 capri.[Yep i know these were fitted to Elfords!] Shame if another parts car, as these are very rare. Ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on October 18, 2009, 10:09:19 PM
Quote from: syebba;648783Hmmm,those wheels look like the ones off a 2.8 capri.[Yep i know these were fitted to Elfords!] Shame if another parts car, as these are very rare. Ta stu..
I reckon you\'re right Stu, 70\'s Ford wheels used a 108mm pcd and the series 1 and 2 1st gens used a 110mm pcd. Although slightly different, the Ford wheels usually fit. I can well imagine that Elford would just use a readily available of the shelf wheel such as the 2.8i pepperpot. It was a good wheel in its day. Unfortunately, the passage of time hasn\'t helped them, many have become porous due to corrosion to the inner rim resulting in tyres very slowly losing pressure. Many Capri enthusiasts ditch these wheels these days.
This car looks like it needs loads of tlc, get a load of the hole in the a post!
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Post by: DaveCollins on October 18, 2009, 11:11:51 PM
In the elford catalogue (I would guess about 1982 - it has no date) the wheels are described as:
Part No: ETL006 Elford Sonic Wheels (set of 5) £220 (Wheels could be sprayed to match vehicle at a cost of £25 per set) Part No: ETL007 Elford Sonic Wheels fitted with Pirelli P6 Tyres (205x60x13) Exchange price £425
Out of interest at the time part number ETL001 was the complete Elford Conversion for £2,390. Alternatively you could have just had the turbo for £1,250 + £150 installation.
Article from Performance Car October 1983 states that the rims are Wolfrace Sonic alloy wheels.
Article concluded:
Likes : Subtle power delivery, free revving rotary engine, excellent handling Dislikes : Very little, steering is heavy at low speed, ventilation poor.
Dave
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Post by: syebba on October 19, 2009, 12:07:15 AM
Ah,so the wheels are wolfrace sonics,i\'m 99% sure the 1st 2.8i capri\'s had these wheels on as standard. Ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on October 19, 2009, 08:35:40 AM
My first RX7 which I bought new in 81 had the Elford wheels on, and they had gold sprayed inserts. I had gone to Richard Knight cars to by a second hand one, and in their showroom they this Gen 1 Ser 1 sitting in the corner, the ser 2 having been on sale for a few months and this car remaining unsold, to jazz it up they had fitted the wheels and added a coach line, we worked out price if I remember £7750 and the rest is history.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 19, 2009, 04:11:34 PM
There\'s a 1983 series 2 for sale in NI , heres the link... http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C118702/
No pics or reg though at the moment
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 19, 2009, 06:14:51 PM
Quote from: syebba;648829Ah,so the wheels are wolfrace sonics,i\'m 99% sure the 1st 2.8i capri\'s had these wheels on as standard. Ta stu..
We used to say of any car with the pepperpot wheels "it\'s got Beirut Dustbin Lids fitted\'\' as reference to all the shelling there when Terry Waite was captive. Sad or what.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 19, 2009, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: Ian65;648933There\'s a 1983 series 2 for sale in NI , heres the link... http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C118702/
No pics or reg though at the moment
Not much to go on there yet. Will keep watching, just in case.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 19, 2009, 06:19:19 PM
Quote from: Ian65;648771Elford series 2 project car on Ebay in Kent...
Looks like another parts car, plenty of rot etc.... off road since June 2005
Cheers, Ian
Thanks Ian, It\'s \'written down\' quite a bit in the ad though. There\'s honest and brutally honest and this car seems to have had the second treatment? That colour scheme is half good. Which half I\'m not saying.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 19, 2009, 06:51:08 PM
If the cars as ropey as it looks, theres not really much else he can say! 1st gens hide their rot quite well so if the outer panels are rotten, I dread to think what the underside would be like. At least the guy is being upfront and not trying to lead anyone up the garden path. A shame, but some cars are just to rough to bother with.
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Post by: syebba on October 19, 2009, 09:39:53 PM
That big hole in the A pillar,good for extra storage space. It\'s an honest write up,no buyer can claim they were mislead,it\'s the sort of ad i would write. It\'s not a genuine elford turbo as far as i can make out,i think the turbo & extra\'s have been fitted at a later date. Ta stu:WaveBye
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Post by: syebba on October 19, 2009, 09:43:50 PM
White S3 with wire wheels corblimey. And a split rear spoiler to boot, on\'t boot. Best is it\'s on my doorstep and I\'ve never seen it. I\'d heard someone had a project 1st Gen in the vicinity... This must be it.
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Post by: syebba on October 21, 2009, 01:20:28 PM
Those wire wheels look hideous.:evillaugh Rest of car is very tidy,used to be opal green looking at engine bay. Ta Stu
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Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2009, 03:37:48 PM
Dear me... those wheels are a nightmare! Bolt on wires even look crap on old British classic cars, a sort of cut price version of the classic centre lock wire wheel, but on a RX7....dire. I\'d hate to see the run out on those wheels under heavy cornering. Frightening.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 25, 2009, 09:22:39 PM
That\'s what you call a colour combination... burgundy interior with pea green paint.... bloody hell!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 26, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
Thanks Guys for both, yes deffo Donavan\'s S2...he still mentions another car for spares.. I must get that Reg from him... torture may be necessary if he continues with this stubborn silence.
The back of the Welsh car matches the interior though!
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Post by: Ian65 on October 27, 2009, 02:03:35 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 27, 2009, 05:32:11 PM
Pass the parcel with this car. Are people trying to make a profit each time \'cos it doesn\'t seem to be working? It went up a fair bit when it got MOT\'d but you can only hike it once......puzzled!
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Post by: Skifledanabit on October 27, 2009, 07:36:08 PM
Interesting, I\'m kinda looking for an FB atm, but seeing as I am in no particular hurry, I am waiting for a really nice one to turn up... that one is not it... lol!
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Post by: A7RXY on October 27, 2009, 07:44:37 PM
Hi Skifledanabit if you do get a FB let me know cos I\'m up the road from you in Upminster, and I\'ve had mine for 20 years now. Dibs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 28, 2009, 12:09:35 PM
Quote from: David Nock;650729Pass the parcel with this car. Are people trying to make a profit each time \'cos it doesn\'t seem to be working? It went up a fair bit when it got MOT\'d but you can only hike it once......puzzled!
Sold (early)?....£550
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Post by: Ian65 on October 28, 2009, 04:14:16 PM
I predict that it\'s back on the market by the end of November!!
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Post by: Ian65 on October 28, 2009, 06:57:30 PM
Bloody hell, that was quick, it\'s back on. I might try predicting something else!!
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Post by: A7RXY on October 28, 2009, 07:33:15 PM
Just give us 6 numbers for Saturday please.........
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Post by: Ian65 on October 28, 2009, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: Ian65;6501991982 series 2 on Ebay in Northumberland
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Post by: A7RXY on October 28, 2009, 08:45:47 PM
Thats a shame as it looks a half decent car............ Ian, how do you post photos on here, it asks for the photos URL how do I find it ?
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Post by: Donavan on October 28, 2009, 09:34:45 PM
Very good car and as there was very little interest in it complete, some of you guys may be able to find use for the thing in bit\'s and theres plenty more!!!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 29, 2009, 11:31:08 AM
NO....oooooo. Makes economic sense but sad to break.
What\'s the plenty more hinting at? Still would like that 3rd Reg Don.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 29, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;651021Ian, how do you post photos on here, it asks for the photos URL how do I find it ?
Dibs, I\'ve found the easiest way to put pictures up is to use Photobucket, which is free to use, takes about 2 minutes to register with / set up and is basically a huge on line photo album which is great for uploading photos and videos to. It\'s also a doddle to use.
Step 1. click on this link and register for free: http://photobucket.com/
Step 2. Log in and on the top tool bar click the albums and upload link
The first time you use photobucket you need to manually set the image size you want. You only ever need to do this once. To do this, log into your photobucket account, underneath the \'Upload images and video\' button is a line of text which says \' Use CTRL to select multiple files (more options (http://javascriptClick on the \'(more options (http://javascriptI selected \'17" screen\' and it works great for me. Once you\'ve selected your size, click \'save\' and your done.
To link to an image from a forum or website, select your photobucket image or video
put your mouse cursor over the image and a box entitled \'link options\' will appear. Left click on the box that says \'image code\' and copy this line of text. Simply paste this into your post on the forum your posting on.
It sounds a bit complicated but when you\'ve done it once, it\'s a piece of cake!
The beauty of it is that you remain in full control of your images, if you want to delete them you can and because you aren\'t actually uploading images to a forums server, only linking to them, you don\'t have to worry about image sizes.
Cheers, Ian
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 29, 2009, 09:59:33 PM
Thanks Ian...............I\'ll try soon
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: evo6rs on October 30, 2009, 12:24:01 AM
Ian65 - I now own the car you refer to as Cals old car - C967 DKP - anything I should know, good or bad ?
David, perhaps you need to record this - will live in Rossendale, Lancashire.
Perhaps not the place to say "Hello All" but I have done it now on my first post.
More posts to come as I explore the car.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 30, 2009, 06:44:15 AM
Quote from: evo6rs;651301Ian65 - I now own the car you refer to as Cals old car - C967 DKP - anything I should know, good or bad ?
David, perhaps you need to record this - will live in Rossendale, Lancashire.
Perhaps not the place to say "Hello All" but I have done it now on my first post.
More posts to come as I explore the car.
Hi and welcome to the 1st gen forum! This is the place to be if you own a 1st gen. We\'ve been following the fortunes of your RX7 for a few weeks now and I for one, am glad that it\'s found an owner to take an interest in it, which I\'m sure you will do if you\'ve already taken the time to join this forum.
I don\'t know much about your car, but when it was up for sale a couple of weeks ago, the ad stated that it had full mot. If that\'s the case, you\'ve had a right result. It shouldn\'t have serious corrosion and you can just enjoy driving it and improve it at your leisure. It\'s much more fun to do a rolling restoration than being stuck in the garage with a pile of bits!
It looks a nice car with good potential and a bit of love and affection will do it the world of good. They are easy enough to work on and the parts are cheap if you deal with some of the lads on this forum who have parts cars.
Any questions or queries, just ask away. There aren\'t many of us on here but we are all genuine 1st generation RX7 nuts and are a really friendly bunch.
Cheers, Ian
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 30, 2009, 09:56:53 AM
I\'ll second that..............wellcome to the madhouse.
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 30, 2009, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: evo6rs;651301Ian65 - I now own the car you refer to as Cals old car - C967 DKP - anything I should know, good or bad ?
David, perhaps you need to record this - will live in Rossendale, Lancashire.
Perhaps not the place to say "Hello All" but I have done it now on my first post.
More posts to come as I explore the car.
Hello there Evo and a warm welcome. I would like to check something with you.
Drop me an email on dgnock at btopenworld dot com Thanks.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: evo6rs on October 31, 2009, 02:19:03 AM
Thanks for the welcome chaps. Yes I think i got a genuine bargain. The car has been sold a few times recently however it has been traded between 2 of my friends until I have bought it yesterday so I am not concerned about its recent history. The history I have suggets it has had plenty of money thrown at it 2004 onwards and drives very well.
Yes I intend to keep the car and to be honest just maintain its condition, I am only 23 and have other commitments for money (namely a mortgage and following Burnley FC) so I cant throw money at the car. It really will be a Sunday and Sunny day car for me. I picked the car up cheap after my friend was messed around with a couple of ebay bidders and car traders.
Im sure I will have plenty of questions in due course and am very happy to have stumbled upon some helpful information across this site and enthusiasts such as yourselves.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mpk490p on October 31, 2009, 09:24:00 AM
welcome, i was about 19/20 when i brought my first 7 insurance was as much as the car but i learnt a lot by not having the money to pay someone else to do it! these cars ar fairly simple (stripping one down really helps) so dont be afraid of doing stuff, i like the fact that other are scared of the rotary like its from outterspace lol, good luck and if you get time read through mine and others threads (link in my signiture) it may be helpfull! Mark
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 31, 2009, 09:34:54 AM
Well said Mark, I got my first 7 in 81, and only starded to work on them in the last year, mainly because, the only people who work on them as a profession are few and far between. All the best info has come this forum or the RX7 forum in the States.......So good luck, and just think when you are driving around in yours you will not be driving one of those square boxes around like eyeryone else.
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: evo6rs on November 02, 2009, 12:20:07 AM
Just to correct an earlier post - My new reg is C970 DKP not C967 DKP
Car is looking all the better for a few hours spent cleaning her before the girlfriend woke this morning.
Thankyou to everyone who has offered your advices and I dare say I will have a sift through the previous posts on here and no doubt have my own questions or experiences to put out there.
Darren
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 02, 2009, 11:31:29 AM
Feel free to ask away Darren. But now you\'re the owner of a really cool car the girlfriend should have put the hours in cleaning while you stayed in bed!
Ooo err.....the Missus would kill me for that.....I\'m a car cleaning slave that\'s what I am!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Nik da Greek on November 09, 2009, 09:25:16 AM
Dunno whether this is the right place for this one, or even if it\'s already on your register, David. Don\'t even know if it\'s someone on here selling up, but here goes anyway, sorry if it\'s wasting your time....
Passed a white FB parked up at the roadside for sale when I went up to t\'monster-in-laws this weekend. It\'s in the place farthest away from the bright centre of the universe it\'s possible to get on this planet, to wit Waterhouses up on the Staffs/Derbyshire border, right on the A523 Ashbourne-Leek road.
Had a printed piece of paper claiming a full service history and loads of receipts etc but it had gone all soggy in the rain, so I couldn\'t read it all or get much idea as to reason for sale etc. Said "make me an offer but please don\'t insult me" lol. Had a quick fondle round the wheel arches and so on and the body seemed in really pretty good nick, the interior looked immaculate, but again due to the lovely Staffs weather it was hard to get a pic.
Anyway, the reg is A77 WOM, the phone number on the For Sale notice is 07773 355 775. Might be worth giving the dude a ring for more details if anyone\'s interested. I wish I hadn\'t just bought a winter runabout last week or I\'d have been ringing up to make a semi-insulting offer!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 09, 2009, 11:59:38 AM
Same car that was in autotrader in August...
A reg, A--WOM, all past Mot\'s, Mazda history, stunning original example, lady owner, loved and garaged, new engine fitted by Mazda done 46,000 miles, recently tuned by an RX-7 specialist who said it was the best hes ever seen. £4,300 ONO.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Nik da Greek on November 09, 2009, 12:33:26 PM
Quote from: Ian65;653179Same car that was in autotrader in August...
A reg, A--WOM, all past Mot\'s, Mazda history, stunning original example, lady owner, loved and garaged, new engine fitted by Mazda done 46,000 miles, recently tuned by an RX-7 specialist who said it was the best hes ever seen. £4,300 ONO.
Ahhh, sorry for the repost!
Jesus, that seems a bit steep to me :eek:. Like I said, the bodywork did seem in excellent condition, but if that\'s her starting price, I think she\'d probably find any offer I\'d be willing to make rather insulting!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 09, 2009, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: Ian65;653179Same car that was in autotrader in August...
A reg, A--WOM, all past Mot\'s, Mazda history, stunning original example, lady owner, loved and garaged, new engine fitted by Mazda done 46,000 miles, recently tuned by an RX-7 specialist who said it was the best hes ever seen. £4,300 ONO.
Yep, Got it on Register from Autotrader. That write up says it has to be some car indeed. Is Waterhouses a place then? Never wasting my time Nik with all this info and extra pics. Plus the Sellers Mobile is always useful info to pass on to a prospective buyer.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Nik da Greek on November 09, 2009, 12:43:58 PM
Waterhouses is sorta a place :Giggle It\'s kinda two houses deep strung out along the main road, and in line with Staffs sledgehammer-to-crack-a-nut speed policy, it has something like six speed cameras in a mile-long stretch :mad:. I think you can start a nice walk along the Manifold Valley to Thor\'s cave and that kinda thing if pictureskew rambling\'s your thang, there\'s a place renting bikes for that purpose too, think the cycle trail runs along the disused railway there. Other than a commercial truck filling station, I\'m not sure Waterhouses has anything else of note to recommend it, though :3Confused
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 09, 2009, 01:09:43 PM
Thanks for that. I think as well the price came down to £4000 in the end. Still a few hundred up even for A1. Maybe if concourse....but what\'s it doing the out in the rain!!!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 10, 2009, 11:24:38 PM
Is this on the list David? (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/a220pbw.jpg?t=1257895362)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: 12at on November 11, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
whats the quota of 12at or 13bt first gens out there?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 11, 2009, 12:36:42 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;653518Is this on the list David? (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/a220pbw.jpg?t=1257895362)
Haven\'t seen it before - thanks very much. Looks right on the line for spares or repair? Could be either? Interesting this is - the seller must be a 1st Gen enthusthiast, 2nd one up on ebay in a short time.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 11, 2009, 12:55:27 PM
Quote from: 12at;653564whats the quota of 12at or 13bt first gens out there?
These are the numbers of 1st Generation modded engine bays that I have noted. There will probably be more modded cars out there where I haven\'t picked up that the owners have modded:- Series 3: 12A Bridgeport...2 13B..................8 12AT (Elford).....4 3Litre Omega.....1 Rover V8...........1 Series 2 13B..................1 450 BHP Mods....1 12AT (Elford).....6 Series 1 FD Engine..........1 12AT (Elford).....1
Hope that helps Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: 12at on November 11, 2009, 04:01:57 PM
do we know what set up the 450hp S2 has? Is that tim from rxmotors car?
my car is 12a half bridge with a garrett T67 turbo - if you want to add it to the list.. At present of putting engine back together and hopefully have running in the next few weeks
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 11, 2009, 05:58:13 PM
Quote from: 12at;653611do we know what set up the 450hp S2 has? Is that tim from rxmotors car?
my car is 12a half bridge with a garrett T67 turbo - if you want to add it to the list.. At present of putting engine back together and hopefully have running in the next few weeks
Sorry mate, mistake, I\'ve double checked the relevant posts and it\'s 265 BHP at wheels at the moment. The owner has got a new humungus turbo going on next month and he said a \'realistic 450 BHP\' is to be expected. I was doing the list of modded engines in a hurry so apologies.
It\'s not Tim, no, but if you navigate into the 1st Generation section and go to Page 3, then halfway down the page, under \'Update on my FB\' is the car and it\'s details.
I\'ll amend the details that are down against your car. Thanks.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 15, 2009, 01:56:58 PM
C765 BYR red series 3 with TWR bodykit for sale £850 Maidstone area
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 15, 2009, 05:21:10 PM
I\'ve seen the car on Gumtree, London....I\'m a sado or what? It looks like a lot of machinery for the money, possibly its in the £850 to £2000 selling category?
Thanks Ian, Register\'s been quiet lately but I\'ve been working on the next Development:
Cars which are licenced at DVLA, therefore On the Road, plus Track Cars and Rally Cars:- Series 3 - 48 No., Series 2 - 13 No., Series 1 - 3 No.,
Cars which are SORNED or unlicenced at DVLA, but complete as Project Cars, not likely to be Scrapped:- Series 3 - 66 No., Series 2 - 23 No., Series 1 - 7 No.,
Cars which are not in either category \'cos I\'ve no Reg for them as yet:- Series 3 - 22 No., Series 2 - 7 No., Series 1 - 1 No.,
That puts a new gloss on why you don\'t see many 1st Gens on the Road.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 15, 2009, 05:38:06 PM
\'Cars which are licenced at DVLA, therefore On the Road, plus Track Cars and Rally Cars:- Series 3 - 48 No., Series 2 - 13 No., Series 1 - 3 No.,\'
Even if we added another 50 cars to this list to allow for the ones that we don\'t know about plus a percentage of the \'yet to be classified\' cars, that\'s a staggeringly low number of cars still in use. No wonder we never see any driving about. The other sad fact is that the longer a car is off the road, unless it\'s a genuine sorn case in the hands of a long term owner / enthusiast, the less chance it\'s got of going back on the road.
I wonder how this impacts on current values. I noticed that the price guide in the back of practical classics hardly changed at all for around 10 yrs. I bet no one has produced an up to valuation list / survey of sale prices for years for these cars.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on November 15, 2009, 05:48:47 PM
I see the inside of one most days :Giggle
No wonder nobody in rx8\'s knows what they are !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 15, 2009, 06:02:51 PM
Thing is, if it was an old school ford like an escort or capri, and we were down to the last couple of hundred, we\'d be talking telephone numbers. Seems a shame that a car as good in its day as a 1st gen is basically slipping away un-noticed.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 15, 2009, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: Ian65;653179Same car that was in autotrader in August...
A reg, A--WOM, all past Mot\'s, Mazda history, stunning original example, lady owner, loved and garaged, new engine fitted by Mazda done 46,000 miles, recently tuned by an RX-7 specialist who said it was the best hes ever seen. £4,300 ONO.
Went for a drive today and as Waterhouses isnt too far I thought i\'d have a look. I was hoping it was a minter but its far from it, has been tarted up in the not too distant past and will need tarting again quite soon. Looks good from a distance though, I see it at £700 - £1000.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 15, 2009, 07:39:53 PM
That\'s interesting Keith, it was up for £4300 to start with and eventually dropped to £3800. I\'d want a show stopper for £4300! Thing with white cars is they\'re easy to spray, look good when clean but nothing looks worse than a white car with rust coming through. Shame really, I\'d have loved it to be a minter, there aren\'t many left. By the way, the fan did the business for me. Had to drill the mount out to make it fit but it\'s all good now.
cheers, Ian
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: kiwimazda on November 15, 2009, 09:33:24 PM
I just purchased 2 7s today. yes 2 One is a b reg that is at first looks a bit tatty and I will make up my mind on that one once I get it home and up in the air to have a good look. The other is BCD440Y. This has been in a lock up for the last 8 - 10 years. Its very dusty and has the od scratch and dent as would be expected but from what I could see it looks ok. And for the good part if it is good I am keeping this one and it will be restored properly and used properly.
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Post by: myatt1972 on November 15, 2009, 09:53:04 PM
Cant wait to see them, will we get some pics?
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Post by: kiwimazda on November 15, 2009, 09:57:39 PM
Pics will be up as soon as I get them home. Just got to hide 2 cars from the wife. My collection at the house will now inc Westfield Nova Rally car BMW Arstra Van 2 Series one
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 16, 2009, 11:56:33 AM
QuoteWent for a drive today and as Waterhouses isnt too far I thought i\'d have a look. I was hoping it was a minter but its far from it, has been tarted up in the not too distant past and will need tarting again quite soon. Looks good from a distance though, I see it at £700 - £1000.
Well, there we go eh? That shows that all that glistens is not gold. Shakespeare said \'glisters\' actually - he probably got the word wrong....!
I think what we need in MRC now Keith is a traveling car checker. Every car up for sale in UK gets a visit and a report back. :rollin:Typing
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 16, 2009, 12:02:46 PM
Quote from: kiwimazda;654426I just purchased 2 7s today. yes 2 One is a b reg that is at first looks a bit tatty and I will make up my mind on that one once I get it home and up in the air to have a good look. The other is BCD440Y. This has been in a lock up for the last 8 - 10 years. Its very dusty and has the od scratch and dent as would be expected but from what I could see it looks ok. And for the good part if it is good I am keeping this one and it will be restored properly and used properly.
Thanks mate, hope you don\'t mind \'em going on register. I hadn\'t got BCD previously. (Not surprising if it\'s been hidden away). What colour is it please? Also would you post or email me the Reg and Colour of the Series 3 Car? dgnock at btopenworld dot com. That\'s to see if it\'s presently on the Register or not. Ta very much.:3gears-rh
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Post by: kiwimazda on November 16, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
uI take delivery on sat 28th so if ther are a couple of spare bods in Farnborough I will need a push to get one of them up the drive
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on November 16, 2009, 09:42:14 PM
Hi guys! Can you see the photo of the new TWR bridgeport first gen on Pistonheads?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 17, 2009, 08:33:35 AM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on November 17, 2009, 03:12:49 PM
My G** the video... This car make me shine... A little more than my 13B first gen, but higher rpm... But it\'s an Euro car, so no LSD right?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 17, 2009, 05:34:54 PM
Quote from: rei99;654766My G** the video... This car make me shine... A little more than my 13B first gen, but higher rpm... But it\'s an Euro car, so no LSD right?
I\'m fairly sure the owner hasn\'t fitted LSD Davide. An engine rebuild with porting and carburetor/ fueling modifications mainly. The TWR kit looks nice.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on November 17, 2009, 05:49:33 PM
Hi David! All fine? :D Yes, reading well the mod is just the engine, the price maybe could be better... But what aa sound! If it was a 86, could be a 84/85 drivetrain, so I could put a bigger USA LSD of the same year right? I hope always to find the light blue USA with a/c and moonroof I saw times ago on Ebay :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on November 17, 2009, 06:31:41 PM
Quote from: David Nock;654801I\'m fairly sure the owner hasn\'t fitted LSD Davide. An engine rebuild with porting and carburetor/ fueling modifications mainly. The TWR kit looks nice.
Was it at rotorstock. It sounded awesome in the flesh !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 18, 2009, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: rei99;654804Hi David! All fine? :D Yes, reading well the mod is just the engine, the price maybe could be better... But what aa sound! If it was a 86, could be a 84/85 drivetrain, so I could put a bigger USA LSD of the same year right? I hope always to find the light blue USA with a/c and moonroof I saw times ago on Ebay :D
All fine indeed my friend,
Car is a Series 3 1st Generation Davide, Registered 1986, same series (exactly same model) as the 1984/1985 registered cars. So yes, as far as I know you can use the USA LSD in it. Was the later USA car that had LSD called a GLS-SE?
As you know there was no Air Con in the UK cars, (though there is a dashboard button marked \'Air Con\', which is not connected to anything. All S3 UK cars had this button)!
Kind Regards David
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 18, 2009, 12:04:10 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;654812Was it at rotorstock. It sounded awesome in the flesh !
Shaun
I think it might have been Shaun. There is no proper pic of it at Rotorstock 6 but there is the back of an S3 of the right colour just showing in 1 shot. That car has a TWR kit with stock wheels which makes me think it is the same car.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on November 18, 2009, 01:26:57 PM
Quote from: David Nock;654928All fine indeed my friend,
Car is a Series 3 1st Generation Davide, Registered 1986, same series (exactly same model) as the 1984/1985 registered cars. So yes, as far as I know you can use the USA LSD in it. Was the later USA car that had LSD called a GLS-SE?
As you know there was no Air Con in the UK cars, (though there is a dashboard button marked \'Air Con\', which is not connected to anything. All S3 UK cars had this button)!
Kind Regards David
:wave very happy to read all fine. So the propeller shaft is the bigger, and the buyer could put the LSD of the GSL (12A engine) and GSL-SE (13B engine) USA model... If he lower a little the price, I could take it, but with the idle so high (2.000rpm) the first "MOT" in Italy to have the plates will be difficult I think... Will be better had it like "hystoric car" already in UK for me. But what a engine... I\'m very sad, here in Italy no one could/want put hands on rotary at so low price (I\'ve read 750£ in the other topic) :(
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 18, 2009, 04:43:07 PM
Quote from: David Nock;654928As you know there was no Air Con in the UK cars, (though there is a dashboard button marked \'Air Con\', which is not connected to anything. All S3 UK cars had this button)!
It\'s a strange thing that Mazda decided to fit the air -con button to the last of the UK 1st gens when the cars weren\'t equiped with air-con Not all UK series 3 cars had this button fitted. My 1984 \'A\' reg series 3 didn\'t, neither did my mates who had exactly the same model and year.
I can only assume that early series 3\'s used up the remaining stock of non air-con fan switches and then Mazda just fitted whatever stock they had left to the remaining UK cars to the end of the production run, these seemingly being the air-con version
I wonder if the loom is factory wired for air-con as well, which would make it simpler to retro fit air conditioning if required or if it\'s just the switch.
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Post by: Ian65 on November 18, 2009, 05:08:27 PM
Very nice looking 1982 Series 2 for sale in Essex. On ebay £499 with MOT
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Post by: shaunwil on November 18, 2009, 06:16:16 PM
Had some very disturbing news from my insurance today. Will start a new thread If I can\'t resolve the issue (and try and make sense of it). Seems even though I have had the FB for 3yrs with the same company they haven\'t been putting a NCB on my policy of which I had full NCB before moving. After 2yrs the other document stating my NCB is null and void and I\'ve lost ALL my NCB.
Not a happy bunny, feels like a scam to keep my buisness.
Can anybody make sense of it ?
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 18, 2009, 06:35:09 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;655016Had some very disturbing news from my insurance today. Will start a new thread If I can\'t resolve the issue (and try and make sense of it). Seems even though I have had the FB for 3yrs with the same company they haven\'t been putting a NCB on my policy of which I had full NCB before moving. After 2yrs the other document stating my NCB is null and void and I\'ve lost ALL my NCB.
Not a happy bunny, feels like a scam to keep my buisness.
Can anybody make sense of it ?
Shaun
Are you on a classic car policy Shaun because many classic car policies don\'t accumulate no claims. The classic policies that I\'ve had don\'t take ncd into account when calculating the premium but then, don\'t give any ncd either.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on November 18, 2009, 06:54:55 PM
What I don\'t get is it doesn\'t say anywhere in my paperwork that they wouldn\'t continue NCB. Fine as I already had maximum so didn\'t need to acrew any more, not that I would have the car for 2yrs then get screwed over !
How the hell can I loose 8yrs of driving overnight ?? Don\'t understand at all !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 18, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
Ask them for a letter confirming that during the period that you\'ve had the car insured with them, you\'ve never made a claim or incurred a loss on the policies. If you then put this with your previous proof of no claims, it should get you sorted with a new company, that\'s what I did.
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Post by: shaunwil on November 18, 2009, 08:04:26 PM
The problem is Houghton has told me that is not enough proof for the new underwriter.
Shaun
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Post by: shaunwil on November 18, 2009, 08:05:12 PM
Sorry,I\'m messing this thread up, new thread : http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=655024#post655024
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rei99 on November 19, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: Ian65;654999Very nice looking 1982 Series 2 for sale in Essex. On ebay £499 with MOT
Seems very nice... Few (I hope) bubble of rust... It\'s the RHD sister of mine, check my site :D
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 19, 2009, 11:34:35 AM
Quote from: Ian65;654999Very nice looking 1982 Series 2 for sale in Essex. On ebay £499 with MOT
Does look nice that car. Last owner since 1992. Wonder why P/X\'d?
I had to google to find Corringham. Sorry you Essex men!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 19, 2009, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: Ian65;654992It\'s a strange thing that Mazda decided to fit the air -con button to the last of the UK 1st gens when the cars weren\'t equiped with air-con Not all UK series 3 cars had this button fitted. My 1984 \'A\' reg series 3 didn\'t, neither did my mates who had exactly the same model and year.
I can only assume that early series 3\'s used up the remaining stock of non air-con fan switches and then Mazda just fitted whatever stock they had left to the remaining UK cars to the end of the production run, these seemingly being the air-con version
I wonder if the loom is factory wired for air-con as well, which would make it simpler to retro fit air conditioning if required or if it\'s just the switch.
Sounds right! Good factory engineering that. I don\'t think the loom is wired but never checked.
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Post by: A7RXY on November 19, 2009, 11:37:38 AM
Yes David, even us Essexmen dont go there through choice...........nice refinery thou.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on November 20, 2009, 06:02:14 AM
Quote from: Ian65;654992It\'s a strange thing that Mazda decided to fit the air -con button to the last of the UK 1st gens when the cars weren\'t equiped with air-con Not all UK series 3 cars had this button fitted. My 1984 \'A\' reg series 3 didn\'t, neither did my mates who had exactly the same model and year.
I can only assume that early series 3\'s used up the remaining stock of non air-con fan switches and then Mazda just fitted whatever stock they had left to the remaining UK cars to the end of the production run, these seemingly being the air-con version
I wonder if the loom is factory wired for air-con as well, which would make it simpler to retro fit air conditioning if required or if it\'s just the switch.
my \'A\' reg one doesnt have the button but the \'C\' reg one i had did have it i was going to take it out and put it im my \'A\' reg one (Just for the look) but kinda forgot about it there was nothing wired up to it and no pipes or anything i could see in the car that had nething to do with air con
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 20, 2009, 11:24:16 AM
When we were bringing our second 1st gen, a Series 3, B reg, home from Huddersfield in 1988 it overheated quite badly. I was driving, noticed the air con button which was a new thing to us, the previous S2 didn\'t have it, so I said to the Missus,
"Sithee \'ere, turn that theer button thingy off fo\'taircon luv".
That\'s how we talk round here - anyway, on doing that the temperature fell as if by magic. When she pressed again it went back up. When we got home and I discovered it wasn\'t connected we fell about laughing.
The problem turned out to be wrong plugs fitted by the Huddersfield garage before we picked the car up. It took 2 days of radiator out and such like to find the problem. I was livid.
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on November 23, 2009, 06:46:59 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;653518Is this on the list David? (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/a220pbw.jpg?t=1257895362)
i brought this will be my daily driver (the rx323 is a bit of a handfull for a daily)
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Post by: A7RXY on November 23, 2009, 08:36:48 AM
Congrats, and for a very good price, I nearly went for it just for the spares.............
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 23, 2009, 11:47:39 AM
Quotei brought this will be my daily driver (the rx323 is a bit of a handfull for a daily)
Thanks madkiwi.Transfered on my register.:Thumbs-up Car looks not bad at all, even though pics were in a garage.
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on November 23, 2009, 07:25:46 PM
yea i hope its good to will see on saturday when i pop the new block in:burnout
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Post by: kiwimazda on November 24, 2009, 11:21:43 PM
Hi David do you know if URL970X is still around Cheers Brian
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 25, 2009, 11:31:17 AM
Hi Brian, I\'ve never clocked that Reg before now, so no record and it\'s showing not found on DVLA (But that could mean it was broken some time ago).
You don\'t possibly mean UKL do you? Because that is (or was) a Rally Prepped car, colour White, last noted still rallying in 2003. Let me know either way because if you do mean URL 970X I\'ll add it to my scrappers and if it\'s UKL I\'ll check through my old files and send you a PM on what I find. David.
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Post by: Ian65 on November 25, 2009, 08:08:41 PM
Another series 2 from the other forum, probably already on Davids list but still worth a post...
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Post by: kiwimazda on November 25, 2009, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: David Nock;656194Hi Brian, I\'ve never clocked that Reg before now, so no record and it\'s showing not found on DVLA (But that could mean it was broken some time ago).
You don\'t possibly mean UKL do you? Because that is (or was) a Rally Prepped car, colour White, last noted still rallying in 2003. Let me know either way because if you do mean URL 970X I\'ll add it to my scrappers and if it\'s UKL I\'ll check through my old files and send you a PM on what I find. David.
Yes UKL as the mud on the pic I saw made it look like a R. Thats the one the rally one Look forward to you PM Cheers Brian
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Post by: syebba on November 25, 2009, 09:09:16 PM
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Post by: Ian65 on November 26, 2009, 07:43:30 AM
If that\'s a condition 2 car, mine must be a condition 1.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 26, 2009, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: Ian65;656291Another series 2 from the other forum, probably already on Davids list but still worth a post...
Sybba flashed it up in April this year, was in Somerset, now Home Counties. (We war babies still know where Home Counties is)!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 26, 2009, 12:08:58 PM
Quote from: Ian65;656413If that\'s a condition 2 car, mine must be a condition 1.
Yeh, I couldn\'t possibly comment, but yeh. You saw it earlier Ian, Page 12 of this forum thread, in October.
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Post by: Ian65 on November 26, 2009, 04:55:33 PM
Quote from: David Nock;656454Yeh, I couldn\'t possibly comment, but yeh. You saw it earlier Ian, Page 12 of this forum thread, in October.
so I did David, I didn\'t recognise it. Must have been a better camera angle 1st time around. I wonder what it made at auction.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 27, 2009, 11:49:06 AM
Auction guide was £900 to £1200 in the ad before bidding.
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Post by: myatt1972 on November 27, 2009, 07:43:34 PM
(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/b584bhs.jpg?t=1259350877) Needs a bit of tlc (but its black Ian)
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Post by: Ian65 on November 27, 2009, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;656660(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/b584bhs.jpg?t=1259350877) Needs a bit of tlc (but its black Ian)
Yeah, I\'ve always wanted a series 3 in this colour and I\'d sell my RX7 for the right car, sadly I don\'t think this is it.
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Post by: syebba on November 28, 2009, 11:13:15 AM
It\'s listed as a semi automatic:2Confused
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 11:31:24 AM
Dodgy cluch................
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 28, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
Now then you guys.... lets be positive here. Says only 4,000 miles on a rebuilt engine, and serviced by Elfords for a long time.
Then it goes on to say \'slight dent\' in drivers wing.......
Wohee, look 1066 posts, arrow in\'t eyeball for old Harold.
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Post by: Ian65 on November 28, 2009, 01:08:54 PM
Quote from: David Nock;656724Now then you guys.... lets be positive here. Says only 4,000 miles on a rebuilt engine, and serviced by Elfords for a long time.
Then it goes on to say \'slight dent\' in drivers wing.......
David, is this car already on your list?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 28, 2009, 01:17:49 PM
Quote from: Ian65;656731David, is this car already on your list?
No, only saw it this morning. Notice I\'m adopting the cool approach now, where I pretend I\'ve had every 1st Gen listed for yonks.
The BHS says Glasgow originally, not bought from the High Street Store.
Still my grateful thanks to all and keep \'em coming.
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 06:34:08 PM
It has no side mouldings and the badge at the back is wrong, also chrome mouldings at the side of the windscreen, could mean it has been resprayed...............
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Post by: syebba on November 28, 2009, 06:54:40 PM
& the wheel inserts are black. The screen mouldings are aluminium under the black paint,so maybe paints worn off or it\'s intentional. Blacks a G8 colour on fb\'s,but i\'m biased my favourite is red. Ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
We are a picky bunch, but I\'m with you the best colour for a FB is red, sunrise red..........
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Post by: syebba on November 28, 2009, 07:04:34 PM
I,m not fussy or picky,but have u noticed it\'s missing the rear plastic quarter trim on the rear side window:eek:,sad or what:evillaugh Must get out more,but it\'s raining.. Ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on November 28, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
Funny how we all have different views on things. I\'ve always reckoned that they look best in black, more sleek somehow... Personal choice I suppose.
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 07:11:43 PM
I know what you mean Ian, but your car is red................poor mans Ferrari.........
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Post by: syebba on November 28, 2009, 07:19:17 PM
I love this sellers description of this dent in the wing as < slight>!:rolleyes: Nothing a new wing could\'nt sort out:evillaugh
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 07:21:27 PM
Due to the present climate and the taxman this had to go and A7RXY will see the road again. (http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss30/d_i_ball/P1000471.jpg)
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Post by: syebba on November 28, 2009, 07:40:41 PM
Well at least you\'ve still got ur rex,my present ride is this! (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/3048095762_307d25d059.jpg)
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 07:44:38 PM
Hay! what can I say......................Do love a donkey btw..........
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 07:45:29 PM
Hay! what can I say......................Do love a donkey btw..........
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Post by: Ian65 on November 28, 2009, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: syebba;656785Well at least you\'ve still got ur rex,my present ride is this! (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/3048095762_307d25d059.jpg)
I see you\'ve been tuning it up Stu... Didn\'t it only have 1 donkey to start with? Hope you\'ve notified your insurance!
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Post by: syebba on November 28, 2009, 08:11:19 PM
It\'s got 3 mule power. Thinking about fitting alloy rims,my wooden ones have woodworm. Ta stu
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Post by: Ian65 on November 28, 2009, 08:14:33 PM
Quote from: syebba;656789It\'s got 3 mule power. Thinking about fitting alloy rims,my wooden ones have woodworm. Ta stu
The wheels are quite \'old skool\' but you could fit a TWR bodykit to update it a bit. Bet this isn\'t on Davids list!
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Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2009, 08:17:49 PM
So thats what The Stig looks like..................
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Post by: kiwimazda on November 28, 2009, 10:05:24 PM
Here is a couple of pics of the cars we got today The one in the garage is going to be broken. The pics dont do the rust justice but it does have a fantastic interior. The previous owner parked it on his fron lawn 10 years ago and it hadnt moved since apart from the engine being started regularly. Sorry chaps but the diff has been sold already before I got it off the trailer (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/kiwimazda/IMG_2714.jpg) (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/kiwimazda/IMG_2713.jpg)
And what can I say apart from the fact I am keeping this one under wraps (http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t21/kiwimazda/IMG_2715.jpg)
And with a bit of luck we will have another series 3 soon. Dont worry but I will only break them if they are uneconomical to repair. I would never wreck a goodun. Just ask bish
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Post by: Ian65 on November 28, 2009, 10:29:43 PM
Quote from: kiwimazda;656803Here is a couple of pics of the cars we got today
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Post by: kiwimazda on November 28, 2009, 10:33:29 PM
Wanna swap
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Post by: Ian65 on November 28, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
sadly, it ain\'t mine, just a picture i found somewhere on the web.
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Post by: kiwimazda on November 28, 2009, 10:37:46 PM
Ok I withdraw my most generous offer of a swap:Giggle
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Post by: Ian65 on November 29, 2009, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;656660(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/b584bhs.jpg?t=1259350877) Needs a bit of tlc (but its black Ian)
Sold on a buy it now £595.... wonder if it will show up on the forum?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 29, 2009, 12:49:33 PM
@ kiwimazda Thanks for 962 Brian.
I think you\'ve just turned the cover up slightly on the White S2\'s number plate just to tantalise, but we know that Reg from your earlier post thanks.
The other SKR is still around on SORN so far as records show.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 29, 2009, 12:51:31 PM
Quote from: Ian65;656856Sold on a buy it now basis for £595.... wonder if it will show up on the forum?
Thanks again all for the updates. I can tell it\'s a rainy weekend, you\'re all posting away without me!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 29, 2009, 05:17:13 PM
Quote from: Ian65;656856Sold on a buy it now £595.... wonder if it will show up on the forum?
Turned up on the other forum, in Devon.
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Post by: syebba on November 29, 2009, 05:22:30 PM
Is it me,or does there seem to be an increase in enthusiasts for fb\'s? Hope the new owner enjoys & does the tlc. Ta Stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on November 29, 2009, 05:26:49 PM
Quote from: David Nock;656903Turned up on the other forum, in Devon.
The guy who used the buy it now and lived in Devon lost out after the seller sold it to someone else. No wonder he\'s feeling gutted.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 29, 2009, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Ian65;656909The guy who used the buy it now and lived in Devon lost out after the seller sold it to someone else. No wonder he\'s feeling gutted.
I\'ve just seen the post. I\'m dizzy today, about 3 cars moved to scrap, a new car or two appeared and a move/not a move to Devon...:confused: But I do feel sorry for the guy who thought he\'d bought it.
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Post by: Ian65 on November 29, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: syebba;656907Is it me,or does there seem to be an increase in enthusiasts for fb\'s? Hope the new owner enjoys & does the tlc. Ta Stu..
cars for less than a grand with mot don\'t seem to have any trouble finding buyers, neither do projects at the moment.
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Post by: Ian65 on November 30, 2009, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: james1902;592198Hi dave, my first gen C784SPA is coming along quite nicely and am nearly ready to start fixing up the body/chassis. am trying to sorce original sills to fix the rust problem properly.
Now for sale for £100 as a partially stripped FB shell....
different description..... same seller or has it moved on????
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 01, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: Ian65;657234OYY 66Y back on ebay again...
different description..... same seller or has it moved on????
There seems to be 2 different sellers selling the same red car at the moment. One on a classified ad basis, the other just put it on auction. Never seen that before.
James\'s black car looks like a good shell that, though James was set to do a lot of work on the body. It seems to me like a lot of work to strip it, and then for someone to buy the shell and bolt it all back together? Or maybe it\'s destined for the track? I\'m treating it as a scrapper now but with a note alongside that the Reg may come back on to the road.
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Post by: A7RXY on December 01, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
Hi Dave I have just picked up some glass from Mark (Mad Kiwi) and it was etched C644 RRY, wondered if this is on your scrapper list.
Mark thanks for the glass and bits............a very nice man............
Dibs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 01, 2009, 05:34:48 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;657314Hi Dave I have just picked up some glass from Mark (Mad Kiwi) and it was etched C644 RRY, wondered if this is on your scrapper list.
Mark thanks for the glass and bits............a very nice man............
Dibs
No it wasn\'t thanks Dibs. A quick DVLA search (thanks again Ian for that knowhow), says it was a white car, 1st Reg 01/08/1985. Last taxed around 2002.
There will be something very pleasing about rattling about with these windows fitted, wondering where they\'ve been, what people inside have seen out of them, how the new owner felt when C644 was brand spanking new. Ghosts from the past living on. Is it just me or does anyone else think these things?
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Post by: syebba on December 01, 2009, 07:20:41 PM
Or what peep\'s have got up to inside those windows,deserted car park,late at night! Ta stu
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 01, 2009, 07:50:00 PM
a lil info about the car for ya
these 2 old welsh fellas did some work for some one and took my rx7 as payment ,when removing it from the shed they found the white one in there to . the owner brought the white one for the motor to put in to my green one ,they stripped the white one then sold the body to someone who wanted it for the windscreen ,thats about as much as i know:bandit
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Post by: A7RXY on December 01, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
The glass is now stored in my garage, and will only see the light of day again if required, so those days of steamy windows could be over for ever for them..............cos they are for me............
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 02, 2009, 11:09:34 AM
Quote from: syebba;657383Or what peep\'s have got up to inside those windows,deserted car park,late at night! Ta stu
Hah!! Thought this and was going to include it in post.....Then thought \'Cheeky\' so left it out.
Besides it just might have been Graham Norton\'s car, himself giving Danny La Rue a \'lift\' on that deserted car park?
Yuck, Dibs, wat ya bought mate? Steamy Windows or what?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 02, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;657393a lil info about the car for ya
these 2 old welsh fellas did some work for some one and took my rx7 as payment ,when removing it from the shed they found the white one in there to . the owner brought the white one for the motor to put in to my green one ,they stripped the white one then sold the body to someone who wanted it for the windscreen ,thats about as much as i know:bandit
Thanks Mark. Great to get more background. Were both cars previously together in Wales then? Caerphilly area wasn\'t it?
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 02, 2009, 07:07:41 PM
yep they both lived in se wales area
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Post by: syebba on December 02, 2009, 07:59:41 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 03, 2009, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;657560yep they both lived in se wales area
Thanks Mark. By the way I suggested that Dibs had bought those \'steamy windows\' but I think now you were kind enough to give them to him. Sorry about that.:Thumbs-up
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 03, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: syebba;657572Up to £1015 & 5 days to go,4 bidders. ta stu..
Happy Days...... Cryptic Emoticon come on down.....Puzzled or what? (Thinking back over the last years e bids on various cars).
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Post by: A7RXY on December 03, 2009, 12:07:49 PM
Quote from: David Nock;657649Thanks Mark. By the way I suggested that Dibs had bought those \'steamy windows\' but I think now you were kind enough to give them to him. Sorry about that.:Thumbs-up
Yes you are correct.............I also picked up a gearbox..........Thanks Mark
Dibs
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Post by: Ian65 on December 03, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
must be a special car that... perhaps it was owned by a celebrity... Tiger Woods by the look of the front spoiler.
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Post by: syebba on December 03, 2009, 06:13:41 PM
It\'s unusual to see a bidding war so early on in the auction. Is that dirt/underseal or rust on front spoiler,i thought they were plastic? Car still needs a fair amount of work/dosh spent on it,interesting to see final price,maybe bidders are keen cos it\'s in the classic section!! Ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on December 09, 2009, 06:21:49 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 14, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
Quote from: Ian65;659425For sale on Ebay in Herts, A244 MEL, series 3, 1984
A new one, not seen it before. Thanks Ian. I think you\'re right about it, it doesn\'t look too bad from a distance but the write up suggests it might be a spares car.
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Post by: Ian65 on December 14, 2009, 07:08:23 PM
I believe that it\'s been off the road for about 8 years, so depending on how it\'s been stored, it could need plenty of tlc.
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 14, 2009, 08:32:48 PM
looks just like mine even the wheel in the boot hmmm whos been taking pictures of my car
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Post by: A7RXY on December 14, 2009, 08:51:06 PM
How\'s it going Mark, have you got it running yet?
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Post by: syebba on December 14, 2009, 11:07:08 PM
Well i,m usually a pessimistic bugger,but it dose,nt look toooooooooooooooo bad to me,arches seem ok & cills,mileage low,depends on underside,a respray would bring it up to scratch,but what would that cost £2>£2.5k?[metallic opal green] Looks like the one being given away on this site about 1 year ago,it was free but in scotland somewhere,dave will have that cars records. Ta stu..
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 15, 2009, 06:17:35 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;659472How\'s it going Mark, have you got it running yet?
yep she runs just need to get a clutch master and skids on
if any one buys that green one ill buy some panels
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Post by: A7RXY on December 15, 2009, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;659532yep she runs just need to get a clutch master and skids on
if any one buys that green one ill buy some panels
And I\'ll go for the wheels.................
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 15, 2009, 10:08:39 AM
And My Driver Just Smashed My Bumper
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Post by: A7RXY on December 15, 2009, 10:45:20 AM
Oops...............may be we should bid...................
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Post by: syebba on December 15, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
Vultures,the lot of ya!:evillaugh Ta stu..
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 15, 2009, 12:32:04 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;659562Oops...............may be we should bid...................
IM AWAY FOR 3 WEEKS AND IVE GOT NO PLACE FOR ANOTHER ONE IF YOU BUY IT ILL BE HAPPY 2 WIRE YOU SOME ££
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Post by: A7RXY on December 15, 2009, 12:47:54 PM
Sorry Mark same prob no place to store it, but I will keep an eye on it.
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Post by: syebba on December 15, 2009, 01:02:47 PM
Oh well,may as well join the carrion feast,if someone from ere buys it,i\'d be interested in the leccy ariel. Wheels look G8 condition>A7RXY Panels to mad kiwi Ian could nick the lights & body templates he needs & running gear? ta stu..:rolleyes:
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Post by: A7RXY on December 15, 2009, 01:05:21 PM
There you go sold to the man with space...............help
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 15, 2009, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: syebba;659510Well i,m usually a pessimistic bugger,but it dose,nt look toooooooooooooooo bad to me,arches seem ok & cills,mileage low,depends on underside,a respray would bring it up to scratch,but what would that cost £2>£2.5k?[metallic opal green] Looks like the one being given away on this site about 1 year ago,it was free but in scotland somewhere,dave will have that cars records. Ta stu..
Yes indeedy Stu. The lady\'s kind offer was taken up, the car was trailered away and is going back on the road. It stayed relatively local North of the Border.:Talking1 I\'m hoping to see pics on here in the not too distant............
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 15, 2009, 08:01:33 PM
does anyone know of any green panels? front gaurds bumper please
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Post by: syebba on December 15, 2009, 09:51:29 PM
Only thing i can think of is 1]there\'s a guy breaking a 1st gen,don\'t know what colour at top of 1st gen section. 2]email the guy on ebay & see if he\'s interested in breaking it good condition opal green panels will be hard to find,u could always say there\'s other guys off the forum after parts as well. Ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on December 15, 2009, 09:53:56 PM
or maybe give tim at rx motors a call or jimmys.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 16, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;659654does anyone know of any green panels? front gaurds bumper please
Only Hindle Autos in Hartlepool, 01429 233875, though that was a long time back and the car had been crunched up against a wall or tree or both. Donavan on here was breaking a Tender Blue S3 a bit back. That\'s about the nearest to your colour, except as Stu says, the ebay complete car.
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Post by: Ian65 on December 16, 2009, 05:22:50 PM
anyone fancy a nice christmas present to themselves? just seen this on ebay...
1984 series 3, B682 XEW, pretty low miles, low prev keepers and 12 mths ticket, brown interior though?? cheap start @ 99 quid
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Post by: A7RXY on December 16, 2009, 05:33:52 PM
This car must have been painted, as I\'ve never seen a red one with brown interior.
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Post by: syebba on December 16, 2009, 05:36:05 PM
You beat me to it,only came on ebay 10 mins ago. Red with brown interior,i\'m guessing it used to be green & resprayed? Looks good nick & already got a bid,Ian did you hit the \'submit\' button on fleabay?Hmmmm Ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on December 16, 2009, 05:37:26 PM
or it\'s not been repainted & someones swopped interiors?
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Post by: Ian65 on December 16, 2009, 05:39:27 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;659811This car must have been painted, as I\'ve never seen a red one with brown interior.
Neither have I. I couldn\'t live with a brown interior, not my cup of tea. Cheap mot\'d car though at the moment. There are a few breakers knocking about with grey interiors presently, so the new owner could change the colour.
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Post by: Ian65 on December 16, 2009, 05:48:26 PM
Quote from: syebba;659813Looks good nick & already got a bid,Ian did you hit the \'submit\' button on fleabay?Hmmmm Ta stu..
I could do with the parts but I wouldn\'t break a road going car. We need to preserve the few that are left. I\'d buy it to fettle and sell on if it came at the right price, but not if it had been blown over which seems likely. I can\'t believe that anyone would specify brown as a special order or go to the trouble of changing the interior for brown. I suppose stranger things have happened though!!
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Post by: A7RXY on December 16, 2009, 05:50:11 PM
If it has been painted it must have been a good one, because where the headlight washer is missing there is no sign of another colour, and who removes those for a respray, unless it was damaged.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 16, 2009, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;659820If it has been painted it must have been a good one, because where the headlight washer is missing there is no sign of another colour, and who removes those for a respray, unless it was damaged.
The rubber covers only pull off and push back on so are easily removed. I\'ve always found the best way to check for a colour change is to check behind the dash. On old Triumphs and Jags, which often were resprayed, we used to drop the clocks out to see well behind the dash. You\'ve got to be pretty determined to completely strip out a full dash to respray a car, but if you\'re going for a full colour change, it\'s the proper way to do it, get back to a bare shell and do it properly. Even then, sometimes the colour is recorded on the vin plate. I personally wouldn\'t touch a car that had had a half assed colour change. Totally blast the shell back to bare metal, inside and out or don\'t bother
Maybe this RX is as it left the factory though, could just be an unusual colour combination.
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Post by: A7RXY on December 16, 2009, 06:21:40 PM
Mazda only offered a grey interior with red in this the UK, and as its a 84 car they would not have been using up the remaining parts, could be worth a phone call to the number given to put us out of our misery................
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on December 16, 2009, 06:36:01 PM
Shame no engine bay shots,few people bother stripping entire engine bay before respray. What colour 1st gens had a brown interior. I think green? It\'s not blue/red/black ta stu..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 16, 2009, 07:35:37 PM
Well I\'ll leave you all to it then. Let me into the post when you\'ve sorted it.
Seriously all, thanks for the tip off, not seen it before so couldn\'t tell if it\'s been a different colour. It\'s on DVLA as red and with the correct V5 date, (so not likely to be an import). Swopping the interior seems simple at 1st sight, but EVERYTHING has to come out, including the dash. No fun in that in my book. Maybe someone wanted a grey interior. But as said, what colour car had a Brown Interior? Didn\'t the Opal Green have Beige Stu? White GSL SE in the US was Brown I think, maybe Maya Gold S2\'s as well?
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on December 16, 2009, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: Ian65;659819I could do with the parts but I wouldn\'t break a road going car. We need to preserve the few that are left. I\'d buy it to fettle and sell on if it came at the right price, but not if it had been blown over which seems likely. I can\'t believe that anyone would specify brown as a special order or go to the trouble of changing the interior for brown. I suppose stranger things have happened though!!
so buy the green one :cheers
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Post by: syebba on December 16, 2009, 08:44:20 PM
It was the gold/bronze coloured rx7,s which had the brown interiors,just seen a few on US ebay. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on December 17, 2009, 11:47:52 AM
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Post by: A7RXY on December 21, 2009, 04:37:52 PM
I wonder if it we now be broken.............if so I\'ll have the wheels.........
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on December 21, 2009, 05:24:16 PM
I emailed the guy on ebay & told him he can advertise ere for free,see if he turns up or relists,A7RXY if u get the wheels,mazda still sell the centre caps,got some for mine,can\'t be arsed to look up price,but i know you\'ll probably ask! Ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on December 21, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
Hmmmm,looks like it may have a leccy ariel
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Post by: A7RXY on December 21, 2009, 08:23:05 PM
Paul\'s (riber3) on here. Been selling since the spring I think. This ones the 3 litre Omega engine....Bet that goes some!
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Post by: syebba on December 22, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
I wish him the best with his sale,but i doubt he\'ll get £7.5k for the car,it\'s a very niche car he\'s created & personally i don\'t think he should of stuck a vauxhall engine in,instead of a rotor. But who knows maybe there\'s a buyer out there who hates rotaries but loves the work done on his fb,it has been done to a G8 standard,but i suspect it\'ll take a long time to sell at that price,although it\'s probably cost him more than that to do it. ta stu:WaveBye
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on December 23, 2009, 04:34:07 PM
Quote from: Ian65;659805anyone fancy a nice christmas present to themselves? just seen this on ebay...
1984 series 3, B682 XEW, pretty low miles, low prev keepers and 12 mths ticket, brown interior though?? cheap start @ 99 quid
only attracted 2 bids, and made £155, reserve not met..... dear me, is that really all it\'s worth?
By the way, happy new year everyone!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 05, 2010, 04:08:07 PM
Selling a sports car that needs work (or one that doesn\'t for that matter) in the depths of a really cold winter is possibly not the time for best prices? Don\'t know. And Happy New Year to you Ian. Not many 1st Gens for sale anywhere at the moment?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on January 05, 2010, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: David Nock;663468Selling a sports car that needs work (or one that doesn\'t for that matter) in the depths of a really cold winter is possibly not the time for best prices?
Yeah, that\'s right, a bad time to sell but even so, one and a half for a project is pretty cheap. I\'ve always found in the past that projects seemed to sell well in the winter, cause that\'s the time to do them up, when theres s** all else to do! Not that I\'m stuck for something to do at the moment!
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 05, 2010, 08:22:01 PM
I was tempted to bid on this for the hubs and whatnot alone so I can get away from the hens teeth 110x4 stud pattern but forgot to bid. Happy new year David!
Tim
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 06, 2010, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;663521I was tempted to bid on this for the hubs and whatnot alone so I can get away from the hens teeth 110x4 stud pattern but forgot to bid. Happy new year David!
Tim
Same to you Tim... Happy motoring all (When we can dig our cars out)!!!:3Confused
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 06, 2010, 05:58:18 PM
Tell me about it, even if Neville wasnt up on axle stands I wouldnt be able to get the main door open where he resides!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on January 06, 2010, 06:22:44 PM
Been in the FB all week. Not been over 3k rpm and even been near 5th gear !
Not the best weather, definitely not recommended !
Shaun
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Post by: Ian65 on January 06, 2010, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;663760Been in the FB all week. Not been over 3k rpm and even been near 5th gear !
Not the best weather, definitely not recommended !
Shaun
I nearly used the RX7 today instead of the Jag, thinking that a manual would be better than an auto. Changed my mind at the last minute and it was lucky I did... slide on some ice on a B road at 10mph and only the ABS saved me. If I\'d been in the FB, I\'d have shunted it! I\'m leaving mine on the drive until things warm up!!
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Post by: shaunwil on January 06, 2010, 06:53:28 PM
Its the only motor at the minute so no real choice !
Did the wheels scrub up ok ??
Shaun
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Post by: Ian65 on January 06, 2010, 07:08:49 PM
Probably going to get Pristine wheels to recut them. They\'re still in my garage at the moment!!
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Post by: A7RXY on January 06, 2010, 07:24:55 PM
I had to use mine today, as HID\'s was in for a service, lucky on main roads only, first time it will have had any road salt on it for a very long time, lets hope its not to long before I can hose it off.
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Post by: A7RXY on January 06, 2010, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: Ian65;663775I\'m gonna refurb them and put them on this....
Probably going to get Pristine wheels to recut them. They\'re still in my garage at the moment!!
Ian, Great website keep up the good work, can\'t wait untill the next instalment.
Dibs
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Post by: Ian65 on January 06, 2010, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;663803Ian, Great website keep up the good work, can\'t wait untill the next instalment.
Dibs
Thanks Dibs, I can\'t wait to get back into the garage and get stuck into the project again but minus 7 is much too cold!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on January 06, 2010, 09:24:48 PM
It\'s warm tomorrow @ + 1c,you could crack on. Poland is -20c. ta..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on January 06, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
Quote from: syebba;663807It\'s warm tomorrow @ + 1c,you could crack on. Poland is -20c. ta..
I was in Lanzarote 3 days ago by the pool, 80 degrees, so this weather seems like -20 to me!
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Post by: mpk490p on January 07, 2010, 09:04:49 AM
nice one Ian, know what you mean about the weather i had to put a new battery on my A4 but starting up the RX7 soon warmed me and the garage up lol
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 07, 2010, 11:50:33 AM
Quote from: Ian65;663767I nearly used the RX7 today instead of the Jag, thinking that a manual would be better than an auto. Changed my mind at the last minute and it was lucky I did... slide on some ice on a B road at 10mph and only the ABS saved me. If I\'d been in the FB, I\'d have shunted it! I\'m leaving mine on the drive until things warm up!!
We could start a whole new thread here. Our Merc is a 3 litre V6 with 7 speed auto and back tyres more like garden rollers. Even in winter driving mode it\'s got way too much torque delivery for snow and ice so skids and slips everywhere.....but it\'s got ABS, ESP, a zillion airbags and GNWEIICFTS, (God knows what else if I can find the switches)....so if we are rash enough to go out we stand a far better chance in a shunt than good ol\' RX7 Gus. His 205 tyres and light weight are still a bit too much for snow conditions, even though the torque is way down. :3gears-rh - Going Nowhere.
So yeah, staying in catching up on computer jobs like LP converting and photo copying.
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Post by: syebba on January 07, 2010, 04:38:46 PM
@dave,whats LP converting. Is that abbreviated for \'loadsa porn?\':Giggle Ta stu...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 07, 2010, 04:56:30 PM
Ooh No.... Only soft porn off tele these days. Anyone see that Murderland with Robbie Coltrane the other week? Some good SP in the last episode..when the black pants fell onto the floor.....Wow. Licking lips emoticon required here.
Its recording LP\'s using a system like Roxio Platinum (I use Roxio Toast for Mac) and transferring them to CD\'s Stu. I was given about 120 top quality classical albums about a year ago that had hardly been on a turntable. Trouble is it\'s a real time (soundstream) process. An album takes 45 minutes to do both sides, then you scan in the cover artwork and print CD covers and lables. I reckon on about 3 hours per Album for a very good home produced CD. A total waste of time if you don\'t like Classical Music. But if you do like it, some of these records are historic and unobtainable now....\'Cos everyone\'s dead! Woops.
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Post by: A7RXY on January 07, 2010, 05:07:40 PM
I\'d love to do that with all my old Motown LP\'s, but taking them to parties in the late 60\'s early 70\'s has put paid to that..............lots of background noises, must be the scratches.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 07, 2010, 06:09:36 PM
Quote from: David Nock;663932Ooh No.... Only soft porn off tele these days. Anyone see that Murderland with Robbie Coltrane the other week? Some good SP in the last episode..when the black pants fell onto the floor.....Wow. Licking lips emoticon required here.:mmmm
Woops.
And the girl had some neat kit as well!!!:Giggle
Couldn\'t resist that one.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 07, 2010, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;663936I\'d love to do that with all my old Motown LP\'s, but taking them to parties in the late 60\'s early 70\'s has put paid to that..............lots of background noises, must be the scratches.
You can edit quite a bit out Dibs but ideally you need a pristine album as a starting point. These LP\'s I mention were an old guy\'s in Manchester. When he died his nephew was taking them to the dump but offered them to 1st comers instead. Cost me 2 bottles of Vin Not Ordinaire (good stuff) but I\'m thrilled to bits with the quality coming off the software.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Timrxmotors on January 07, 2010, 08:42:07 PM
To answer the thread title,I hear from a reliable source there are 187 1st gens still on the road.Sounds about right.
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Post by: 12at on January 07, 2010, 10:04:40 PM
Not to sure if you got this one on your list - i got it as a pair when i bought my first FB here in the UK. I stripped this one and it went to the scrappers.
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Post by: mpk490p on January 08, 2010, 11:20:34 AM
interesting sure my car\'s original plate was C - CKL sure Dave would know (the plates are in the garage which is full of brass monkeys!)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 08, 2010, 12:06:13 PM
Great 12at. Thanks. No I didn\'t have this one. Already got 4 CKLs, this one makes 5. We worked out on this forum that the KL\'s were Mazda\'s own registered cars. Their Tonbridge Wells HQ was in the Maidstone Registration area in the 1980\'s.
Mark---you were originally C921 EKL. Same difference, KL says a Maidstone car when new.
Friday lunchtime....off out to fight the Monkeys in an hour....BRRRR!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 08, 2010, 12:19:25 PM
Quote from: Timrxmotors;663976To answer the thread title,I hear from a reliable source there are 187 1st gens still on the road.Sounds about right.
Hi Tim, I\'ve got 197 complete cars at the moment, made up as follows:-
Licenced or Track Cars.......S3 49,.......S2 16,........S1 3,
SORN or Project Cars.........S3 66,.......S2 24,........S1 7,
Unclassified (No Reg Nos)...S3 23,.......S2 7,..........S1 2,
If you want an Excel Spreadsheet of geographically where most of these cars are in the UK then drop me an email -- dgnock at btopenworld dot com This list is by colour and rough location only by the way, no Reg numbers or exact places. I cannot uplink Excel to the Forum for some reason. Your purple peril is in the 16 S2 runners above Tim. I\'m told you often have quite a few 1st gens in your yard Tim. I\'d appreciate any details you can give me providing your customers would not object. You can email me any time.. Thanks David
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Post by: 12at on January 08, 2010, 02:10:57 PM
Here is my other FB i owned but sold - i believe the owner who i sold to ended up selling it to Stacy if i remember correctly.. I should never have sold this one :(
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 08, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: 12at;664123Here is my other FB i owned but sold - i believe the owner who i sold to ended up selling it to Stacy if i remember correctly.. I should never have sold this one :(
I think you\'re right about that mate, YYO looked good. I followed it moving about. It\'s off to a sunnier place if Stacy doesn\'t mind me letting on.
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Post by: Timrxmotors on January 09, 2010, 11:39:06 AM
All these are no longer taxed,but are not going for scrap. Series 1,Q193 RYT,and one unreg LHD. Series 2,FLB 107Y,TAL 7X,EPR 160Y,YLW 58X,A980 KKJ Series 3,C711 RGW,C321 TGU,B689 FOC,A1 GCE,B983 SKR,C198 KVX,B677 AOG,A543 LRU,B338 WEV and a series 2 still on the road,VRU 44X
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Post by: A7RXY on January 09, 2010, 12:18:27 PM
Tim/David.......B338 WEV, thats is Alan Rees old car.
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Post by: Skifledanabit on January 09, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
I didn\'t realise Tim was on here! lol
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 09, 2010, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;664328Tim/David.......B338 WEV, thats is Alan Rees old car.
. Yes, I saw that it was in Tim\'s Yard.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 09, 2010, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: Timrxmotors;664320All these are no longer taxed,but are not going for scrap. Series 1,Q193 RYT,and one unreg LHD. Series 2,FLB 107Y,TAL 7X,EPR 160Y,YLW 58X,A980 KKJ Series 3,C711 RGW,C321 TGU,B689 FOC,A1 GCE,B983 SKR,C198 KVX,B677 AOG,A543 LRU,B338 WEV and a series 2 still on the road,VRU 44X
Blimy Tim, You\'ve given me indigestion sorting these out. I\'d already got a few, WEV as being Alan Rees\'s old car and B 677 AOG was saved from the scrapman in the late 1990\'s by a lady owner, Teri. I\'ll be a while here but I think it\'s safe to say you\'ve pushed Hampshire or Surrey out of the top spot county by county. Dorset is now a clear leader....Your 17 and Captain Biz\'s Neville makes 18! But where\'s the Purple Peril Tim...(LLK). Have you done him in?:2Confused
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Post by: Ian65 on January 09, 2010, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: 12at;664123Here is my other FB i owned but sold - i believe the owner who i sold to ended up selling it to Stacy if i remember correctly.. I should never have sold this one :(
Isn\'t that the car that had it\'s interior swapped with B309 VYV ?
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Post by: 12at on January 09, 2010, 03:42:57 PM
It is and i should never have sold YYO or done the interior swap !!
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Post by: Timrxmotors on January 09, 2010, 07:46:34 PM
Quote from: David Nock;664354Blimy Tim, You\'ve given me indigestion sorting these out. I\'d already got a few, WEV as being Alan Rees\'s old car and B 677 AOG was saved from the scrapman in the late 1990\'s by a lady owner, Teri. I\'ll be a while here but I think it\'s safe to say you\'ve pushed Hampshire or Surrey out of the top spot county by county. Dorset is now a clear leader....Your 17 and Captain Biz\'s Neville makes 18! But where\'s the Purple Peril Tim...(LLK). Have you done him in?:2Confused
A925 LLK purple peril is alive and well,but you already have it listed.Got another series 1 coming soon,a green one! Terri still owns B677 AOG,think I\'ve adopted it.
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Post by: Timrxmotors on January 09, 2010, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;664333I didn\'t realise Tim was on here! lol
Thought my username would give it away. :)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 10, 2010, 01:25:04 PM
Quote from: Timrxmotors;664394A925 LLK purple peril is alive and well,but you already have it listed.Got another series 1 coming soon,a green one! Terri still owns B677 AOG,think I\'ve adopted it.
Thanks Tim. That makes Dorset an absolutely stonking winner so far in the complete-cars-by-county championship. 18 to Tim alone.:god Plus 2 others - Captain Biz and one other that was being auctioned last July. If you could remember to let me have details on the green one when it arrives that would be great.
Thanks, Dave
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 10, 2010, 02:24:08 PM
Up the Dorset Massive woop woop lol:Giggle
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Post by: A7RXY on January 10, 2010, 02:54:45 PM
More like "One man and his 7\'s"..............
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on January 10, 2010, 06:02:31 PM
Surely it\'s only a matter of time before Tim starts wearing a cape and paints all those FB\'s white with black spots......
Just you wait-you heard it here first.:p
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on January 10, 2010, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: Timrxmotors;664394A925 LLK purple peril is alive and well,but you already have it listed.Got another series 1 coming soon,a green one! Terri still owns B677 AOG,think I\'ve adopted it.
is the green one up for parts i could do with a few bits
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Timrxmotors on January 10, 2010, 06:34:02 PM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;664561is the green one up for parts i could do with a few bits
No,it is a series 1,they appear to be rarer than RX3\'s,they all rusted away,not helped by those aftermarket glass sunroofs that were fitted to most of them.I have scrapped dozens of them,so should have parts you need.
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Post by: rei99 on January 11, 2010, 08:22:38 AM
Quote from: Timrxmotors;664320All these are no longer taxed,but are not going for scrap. Series 1,Q193 RYT,and one unreg LHD.
MMmm... How color was this?
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Post by: Timrxmotors on January 11, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
Quote from: rei99;664636MMmm... How color was this?
The LHD one is \'gunmetal grey\' colour in totally standard condition,with grey/black interior.Came from Switzerland about 15 years ago.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 16, 2010, 04:26:00 PM
Quote from: Ian65;649152David, do you have this one on the list?, black series 1
There were only 3 road or track Series 1\'s, not on SORN. Now there are only 2 as this black one is now a rolling chassis: I believe it\'s for sale with parts but with no motor and on steel wheels.:2Confused
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Post by: Ian65 on January 16, 2010, 05:44:24 PM
lets hope someone puts it back together.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2010, 11:46:29 AM
Series 2 Red car OYY and Series 3 Omega/Widebody both back on ebay this morning.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 19, 2010, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: David Nock;666113Series 2 Red car OYY back on ebay this morning.
optimistic pricing and it used to be silver as well. No wonder it\'s sticking
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Post by: J_T on January 19, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: David Nock;665680There were only 3 road or track Series 1\'s, not on SORN. Now there are only 2 as this black one is now a rolling chassis: I believe it\'s for sale with parts but with no motor and on steel wheels.:2Confused
Where\'s this one for sale?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 19, 2010, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: J_T;666356Where\'s this one for sale?
PM sent J_T
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Post by: syebba on January 23, 2010, 07:45:31 PM
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Post by: A7RXY on January 23, 2010, 08:17:27 PM
Funny old life I\'ve spent more than that on bits lately..................
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Post by: syebba on January 23, 2010, 08:20:06 PM
It looks dead smart,exterior & interior,even alloys look good,but piccies always make a car look better than it could be. Wonder where it needs welding,advert very basic. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on January 23, 2010, 08:30:04 PM
Funny old life I\'ve spent more than that on bits lately..................
err,me too! New tyres/refurbed wheels/new centre caps,light lenses etc,etc, soon adds up!:eek: ta stu
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Post by: A7RXY on January 23, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
Someones got to do it or the mark would die....................
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Post by: syebba on January 23, 2010, 08:42:04 PM
That\'s true,be good if someone else did it & i picked a minter up for a grand! ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on January 23, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
dream on....................
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 24, 2010, 12:04:38 PM
It does look tidy this Blue one. But also 12at\'s Silver one could be a great project ....maybe with the 2004 engine from this Blue One??...... That\'s about £1400 for both, a bit of work (in this case a bit=loads of transporter miles and a lot of humping engines/gearboxes).
Result, 36,000 mile Silver car with neat Grey/Black interior, 2004 rebuilt engine. T and T for a year, loadsa spares left over
And the Registrations are only 54 Nos apart in the same Reg District.
.....If I was 120 years younger!!!!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 24, 2010, 12:17:15 PM
But the seller of the Blue one has laid a fishy trail for us to follow....Ross Fisher? Hmm that\'s a Trawlerman\'s name. Only enquiry so far from that american guy Red H Erring Jnr.
(I know funny names when I see them.....my Mum and Dad wanted Richard Nicholas Nock...DickNickNock!)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 24, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
Quote from: David Nock;667451And the Registrations are only 54 Nos apart in the same Reg District.
Maybe another cluster here. VYV seems to have been Central London. Now got 3 VYV\'s all from around Sept/Oct 1984
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Post by: Ian65 on January 24, 2010, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: David Nock;667451It does look tidy this Blue one. But also 12at\'s Silver one could be a great project ....maybe with the 2004 engine from this Blue One??...... That\'s about £1400 for both, a bit of work (in this case a bit=loads of transporter miles and a lot of humping engines/gearboxes).
Result, 36,000 mile Silver car with neat Grey/Black interior, 2004 rebuilt engine. T and T for a year, loadsa spares left over
12at\'s car is a good project for someone but I think that the milage, unless absolutely 100% verifiable, is irrelevant. It\'s still a 26 year old shell. You can buy a 100,000 mile car thats been looked after thats better than a 30,000 mile car that\'s spent it\'s life on the coast in the sea air. Condition is all important, not so much age or milage
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Post by: A7RXY on January 25, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
David have you got this one, dont think it will hit the road again....
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 25, 2010, 04:18:10 PM
Blast.....just look at your timings. I\'m logging in to tell you about it and there\'s 2 posts in already.....Hope the vote counters are as quick as you guys on election night. Billericay wasn\'t it - always first result in!
Think the little seaside car above will not turn another wheel.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 31, 2010, 08:19:00 PM
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Post by: Ian65 on January 31, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
Quote from: Ian65;669214Red 1984 series 3 A177 SVW on ebay in Glasgow
resprayed in red.... dvla still have it down as green. tax runs out tomorrow.
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Post by: myatt1972 on January 31, 2010, 08:48:15 PM
Selling cos the tax and mot have run out, sounds odd. If it was a good car wouldnt you put a ticket on it to sell it.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 31, 2010, 08:51:39 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;669229Selling cos the tax and mot have run out, sounds odd. If it was a good car wouldnt you put a ticket on it to sell it.
definitely.... not worth much at all without one...
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2010, 12:00:30 AM
quote \'MOT & tax just ran out,hence getting rid of car\'
Hmmm,dose\'nt instill confidence for buyers? I\'d be dubious about buying a car resprayed 8 months ago,unless they had photographic evidence it was done properly & not just a blow over. It may be a good car,but then again? Ta stu...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 01, 2010, 11:35:06 AM
Got it now guys....Thanks all. That makes only 6 1st Gens in Scotland....all S3\'s.
Ideal 2nd car to the ministerial jag for Gord? Soon get all the potholes fixated...and the fuel taxed reduced.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2010, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: David Nock;669352Got it now guys....Thanks all. That makes only 6 1st Gens in Scotland....all S3\'s.
Ideal 2nd car to the ministerial jag for Gord? Soon get all the potholes fixated...and the fuel taxed reduced.
soon be his only car...hopefully
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Post by: A7RXY on February 01, 2010, 02:10:49 PM
This is why there\'s no opal green cars left,they keep getting resprayed a different colour! This one & about 4 others i\'ve seen 4 sale in the last year all opal green originally,not anymore. I like the opal green,think it looks classy. Ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2010, 03:18:46 PM
Went 4 £85.50,looks a spares car,still someone got a good deal for parts. Ta stu.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2010, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: syebba;669399This is why there\'s no opal green cars left,they keep getting resprayed a different colour! This one & about 4 others i\'ve seen 4 sale in the last year all opal green originally,not anymore. I like the opal green,think it looks classy. Ta stu..
I must say that opal green is my least favourite of all the 1st gen colours, but there again, I just hate green. I\'d never buy a green car, full stop. I know that there are some really clean opal green cars in the club and I can appreciate the work that goes into keeping them that way but it\'s not for me. The other problem with them is that most of them appear to have interior colours that seem to clash with the paintwork. ie. brown... Even if you respray the car a different colour, which again devalues it, you are still stuck with a dodgy interior colour.
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2010, 04:13:48 PM
Well maybe i\'m biased,i love green,off topic a pic of my dax cobra in BRG,it\'s a much darker green than the mazda opal green,some cars it suits,some it may not. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2010, 04:15:03 PM
I agree with you on the brown interiors though,not my thing either. ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on February 01, 2010, 04:17:12 PM
Your right BRG does look good on classic cars, Morgan, MGB\'s etc, but I do not think it looks good on moden cars...........
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2010, 08:17:08 PM
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 01, 2010, 08:51:49 PM
Just found this pic, (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/e04e_4.jpg?t=1265057302) Was a car I went to look at about a year ago, ive had look on the thread but cant find a mention of it. Is it new to you David?
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Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2010, 08:58:30 PM
Quote from: syebba;669499pulled off old rx7 club site[sean houlaine] is this on ur records dave,probably scrap by now?
Still about but on sorn until May this year
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2010, 09:30:32 PM
Thats a very smart S3,is that a glass moonroof on top,everyone seems to be after? ta stu..
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 01, 2010, 09:41:59 PM
Best part about it was the leather interior. (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/f7d9_4.jpg?t=1265060441) Keith...
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Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
Nice seats but.........it\'s green
unlicensed since March \'09
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 01, 2010, 10:16:47 PM
Quote from: Ian65;669538Nice seats but.........it\'s green
Thats why I didnt buy it (thought it was silver) It had a rebuilt engine full leather interior with "Rx7" embosed into seat backs and door cards Had a respray a couple of years earlier, with all side trim and spoiler removed
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2010, 10:17:46 PM
There was a car 4 sale very much like that 2 years or so on here,had been completely rebuilt & had leather interior/rx7 interior logo\'s & no rear spoiler,wonder if it\'s the same one? What about if we made it SHINEY green Ian? ta stu..
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 01, 2010, 10:26:50 PM
Sounds like the same one. It was in Sutton Coldfield when I viewed it. Keith...
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Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2010, 10:40:27 PM
Quote from: syebba;669546What about if we made it SHINEY green Ian? ta stu..
no chance, if i happened to somehow end up with a green car, I\'d break it for bits!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2010, 12:30:40 PM
I\'ve got the white one and the battered red one already. White on Sorn in Bucks and the red one almost certainly gone to heaven. The other one I\'ve got down as Met Green, was for sale in Aug 2008 in West Yorks - the interior looked pink when I viewed it then on screen. Looks a lot better on here. It had an export marker against it on DVLA recently so mayhap gone to Ireland. It might be back in the club forums, I\'ll have a look later.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
No the forums don\'t go back far enough on Cars for Sale. Anyway it was an e bay advert that I saw. Date 4th Aug 2008, in Halifax. Was it in Sutton Coldfield after that Keith?
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 02, 2010, 06:00:25 PM
Couldnt remember when it was but the pics on my pc were created in Jan 09 so looks like it was after August 08.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 03, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
Yes then, probably sold from Halifax ebay to Sutton Coldfield and maybe exported from there (or maybe not) - we\'ll have to see it it surfaces again.
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Post by: syebba on February 03, 2010, 02:43:28 PM
Well i think we can safely say if it resurfaces,Ian wont buy it! ta stu..
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on February 05, 2010, 03:45:04 PM
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Post by: rei99 on February 05, 2010, 03:52:56 PM
Other forum? :confused: Link link :D
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 05, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;670367http://cid-295ed4eaad4a058d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Mazda%20RX-7/IMG%5E_0476.JPG
this is 4 sale on the other forum. from wales
That\'s great Mark. I\'ve the car No. on my Register from being spotted last August by Jono FD3 on here. You\'ve sorted out a problem for me because the owner was posting on Ex\'le last year without a pic or anything and I had thought he was in another car until today... Thanks mate. Dave.:wave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 05, 2010, 06:12:08 PM
Quote from: rei99;670369Other forum? :confused: Link link :D
PM sent Davide.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 05, 2010, 06:14:47 PM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;670367http://cid-295ed4eaad4a058d.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Mazda%20RX-7/IMG%5E_0476.JPG
this is 4 sale on the other forum. from wales
Hope he finds a buyer for the car as it is, as he says he may break it if it doesn\'t sell. It looks quite clean in the pics
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 05, 2010, 06:19:58 PM
Yes, Johno who spotted it (3 times he saw it) said it looked very tidy to him as it went past. The front chassis and wheels want a sort out, otherwise it looks nice.
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Post by: syebba on February 05, 2010, 07:01:27 PM
I used to be able to get on the other forum,wont let me on now. Question,what does mazda say cc of 13b is,i put 1.3 is this right? ta stu..
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on February 05, 2010, 08:46:36 PM
sorry to say shes goinging to be broken he said
"1985 FB is for sale, taxed until 30 April 2010. MOT until 7th May 2010.
Very good runner, a real pleasure to drive. Recent new fuel filter (Jan 2010).
Reason for sale is that I was going to touch up the nose piece due to some rust holes, and discovered that the front right chassis is corroded to such an extent that the bumper on that side was only just being held in place.
Do not have the time or inclination to repair.
Any reasonable offers welcome, willing to break and sell parts individually if I cannot sell the whole car.
85000 miles, all electrics working perfectly.
Petrol tank refurbished by Re-NU in Hartlepool in 2009."
so i think shes a goner
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Post by: syebba on February 05, 2010, 09:17:57 PM
That\'s a shame,looked like a good one in the pics,another example of an fb hiding rust well. ta stu..
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Post by: DaveCollins on February 05, 2010, 10:57:08 PM
Quote from: Ian65;669403I must say that opal green is my least favourite of all the 1st gen colours, but there again, I just hate green. I\'d never buy a green car, full stop. I know that there are some really clean opal green cars in the club and I can appreciate the work that goes into keeping them that way but it\'s not for me. The other problem with them is that most of them appear to have interior colours that seem to clash with the paintwork. ie. brown... Even if you respray the car a different colour, which again devalues it, you are still stuck with a dodgy interior colour.
I am really lucky with mine because Mazda ran out of brown at the end of the production run so my Opal Green car has a factory fitted black trim instead of the horrible beige trim it should have had. Anyone else come across an Opal green car with the black trim?
Dave
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 06, 2010, 12:11:12 AM
Ive never seen black trim in a s2/s3 must be quite rare. Keith...
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Post by: Ian65 on February 06, 2010, 10:41:02 AM
Mazda class it as black but it\'s actually the grey trim that many of us have. Having said that, whilst the seat and door card inserts are all the same grey material, the plastic trim differs between black, charcoal and grey, even though Madza still class them as black.
Sunrise red cars should have black trim but mines more greyish Black cars should have black trim but mines a sort of mix of black and charcoal.
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Post by: syebba on February 06, 2010, 11:37:08 AM
post a pic up of ur red rex\'s interior ian,see if it\'s the same colours as mine & A7RXY? Our cars were near end of production run,so maybe they just fitted what was left in parts bin as in Daves car. ta stu..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 06, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: syebba;670429Question,what does mazda say cc of 13b is,i put 1.3 is this right? ta stu..
Yes, I\'m fairly sure that\'s right. The 12A has swept volume of 1150 cc therefore by agreement taxed as a 2300 by DVLA when new. The 13B was increased to swept volume 1300 cc therefore taxed as a 2600 cc when new. They will both be £190 Road Fund now though as they\'re both bigger engines in the pre 2001 road tax rules.:eek:
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Post by: Ian65 on February 06, 2010, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: syebba;670429I used to be able to get on the other forum,wont let me on now. Question,what does mazda say cc of 13b is,i put 1.3 is this right? ta stu..
a 13b is 1308 cc
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Post by: syebba on February 06, 2010, 06:39:24 PM
Ta Ian,i got it off wikipedia in the end!
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Post by: DaveCollins on February 07, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
This is my "black" interior which as you can see is mostly shades of grey.
Dave
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Post by: Ian65 on February 07, 2010, 03:36:39 PM
Quote from: syebba;670569post a pic up of ur red rex\'s interior ian,see if it\'s the same colours as mine & A7RXY? Our cars were near end of production run,so maybe they just fitted what was left in parts bin as in Daves car. ta stu..
These pics are from my red car... this trim is described by Mazda as black...
These 2 are from my black car, trim also described as black. It is actually slightly darker than it looks in the photos, the flash bleached the colours out a bit. It still ain\'t \'black\' black though!
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Post by: Ian65 on February 07, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;670814Sold for £430 and had 17 bids.
I think that\'s quite strong for a car with no mot and a change of colour. Even if it didn\'t need much work for the mot, it\'s still had a change of colour. I\'m not a fan of green cars but the original Mazda opal green isn\'t completely horrible and I\'d rather have that than some half a***d respray in another colour. It surprises me that more of the 1st gens that are sold don\'t end up on this forum given the wealth of information that\'s available here about them. Most seem to sell and then disappear again.
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Post by: syebba on February 07, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
In many photo\'s the opal green looks silver to me! Yeah i\'m surprised there are\'nt more new 1st gen owners on here,though some of the cars do seem to change hands frequently! Ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on February 08, 2010, 01:10:54 AM
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Post by: syebba on February 08, 2010, 01:12:41 AM
noticed how narrow that garage is?:2Rolleyes ta stu..
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Post by: mooragerx7 on February 08, 2010, 06:18:43 AM
Quote from: syebba;670940noticed how narrow that garage is?:2Rolleyes ta stu..
all garages in England are narrow compaired to New Zealand my dad is having his extended over here and the builders cant understand why he wants to use it as a garage to store a car in it :confused:
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Post by: A7RXY on February 08, 2010, 08:49:21 AM
Looks to be a nice clean car, lets hope it goes to someone who will put it back where it belongs, on the road...............
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 08, 2010, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: syebba;670940noticed how narrow that garage is?:2Rolleyes ta stu..
\'Tis narrow indeed for them bat-eared mirrors. My garage is wide so I never noticed the ugly mirrors. Grrrr. Stu what have you done?.....:Hammer
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 08, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
If it\'s as good as it looks and the seller says it is, they should put a mot on it. For the price they\'re asking, I\'d want a long mot. Always makes me suspicious when a car is described as \'in excellent condition\' but without a current mot. I\'d want it super cheap to cover myself.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 08, 2010, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: syebba;670940noticed how narrow that garage is?:2Rolleyes ta stu..
That\'s the beauty of uk spec 1st gen folding mirrors!
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Post by: Ian65 on February 08, 2010, 06:31:15 PM
one for the list???
A721 NKP Green Series 3 1984
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 09, 2010, 11:26:39 AM
Quote from: Ian65;671113one for the list???
A721 NKP Green Series 3 1984
Not got that....shows as Unlicensed since 1998 so surely a long time scrapper.
Where did you find it Ian?....sometimes when checking on DVLA a trawl of the surrounding numbers throws up 1st Gen registrations in clusters. Or sometimes there\'s a cluster of Mazda\'s but not all RX7\'s.
Interestingly I\'ve also got A715 NKP, Red, which was in a couple of mags in the 1980\'s and 90\'s. Also now unlicensed and in my long time scrappers pile,
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Post by: Ian65 on February 09, 2010, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: David Nock;671247Not got that....shows as Unlicensed since 1998 so surely a long time scrapper.
Where did you find it Ian?....sometimes when checking on DVLA a trawl of the surrounding numbers throws up 1st Gen registrations in clusters. Or sometimes there\'s a cluster of Mazda\'s but not all RX7\'s.
Interestingly I\'ve also got A715 NKP, Red, which was in a couple of mags in the 1980\'s and 90\'s. Also now unlicensed and in my long time scrappers pile,
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 09, 2010, 05:58:41 PM
Thanks Ian. 1984 mag it looks like?
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Post by: syebba on February 09, 2010, 07:56:39 PM
Quote from: Ian65;671095That\'s the beauty of uk spec 1st gen folding mirrors!
Still don\'t like em! ta stu...:p
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Post by: Ian65 on February 09, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: syebba;671320Still don\'t like em! ta stu...:p
you will when you have to extend the garage to get the car in with your new mirrors!
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Post by: syebba on February 09, 2010, 11:18:42 PM
Quote from: Ian65;671362you will when you have to extend the garage to get the car in with your new mirrors!
:eek: did\'nt think of that. I\'ll cut some slots out in the walls either side so they\'ll fit,i\'ll just have to remember not to lean on the walls.:xconfused
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Post by: Ian65 on February 09, 2010, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: syebba;671388:eek: did\'nt think of that. I\'ll cut some slots out in the walls either side so they\'ll fit,i\'ll just have to remember not to lean on the walls.:xconfused
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 11, 2010, 04:51:02 PM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;671575and a 13b with a 4brl well i know they are some around ot of rx4s etc but hmm here ratty rat
I say old chap, translating what you say, I take it we are all interested in a 13B engine being coupled up to a 4 barrel Nikki. Is that the gist of your statement Mark old friend? (pulling your leg a bit).:yes
Hmm I don\'t suppose there\'s any reason why not couple it to a carb, but why not drop the whole injection set up into it. Is that what we\'re all saying?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 11, 2010, 04:55:47 PM
Quote from: Ian65;671567C173 DYN series 3, 1986, silver, being broken for spares in Norfolk. Been off the road since 1997.
Not seen it before.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 11, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;671575hmm looks ok but no t&t and £750 hmmm i smell a rusty rat
and a 13b with a 4brl well i know they are some around ot of rx4s etc but hmm here ratty rat
Yes indeed Mark, there are a few odd things here.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 11, 2010, 07:45:13 PM
AYA 960X is for sale in this weeks Classic Car Weekly in Suffolk for £1600. Was sold on Ebay last November in Essex. Still think that\'s a nice car, even at that price. I can\'t remember what it sold for last time around.
I knew i\'d seen it before,£1100 increase in 3 months
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Post by: captainbizzaro on February 11, 2010, 11:10:00 PM
Quote from: syebba;671587Nah looks like a 12a,ur right,but oh what the hell:flamed:evillaugh
When\'s ur car having surgery? ta stu..
Ha cheers stu, I needed that today to be fair-it\'s baltic outside. I\'ve decided to hold off on major surgery till after the summer (which meant putting 12a back in lol) so I can bring it to some meets and keep the fb numbers up with you guys. So at the moment I\'m just doing some essential stuff to be fresh for spring. That gives me time to finish compiling my bits pile for TII swap and get the bigger shed ready where it\'ll happen. (Hopefully!!)
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Post by: A7RXY on February 12, 2010, 08:31:13 AM
Just ordered the leccy ariel off this car £15 + £10 postage. ta stu..
Did notice the spoiler, but does it have a hole for an ariel ?.........thats if it had one :Giggle
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 12, 2010, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Ian65;671793AYA 960X is for sale in this weeks Classic Car Weekly in Suffolk for £1600. Was sold on Ebay last November in Essex. Still think that\'s a nice car, even at that price. I can\'t remember what it sold for last time around.
£1070 it went for last year. Still looks good, I think we all agree on that.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 12, 2010, 02:04:48 PM
I think it was a cheap buy last time around... the current asking price seems more like it to me. I\'ve always liked series 2\'s in that blue and this one looked very nice inside and out from the pictures. Unmolested, clean series 2 are few and far between these days aren\'t they? Hope it finds a good buyer.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 15, 2010, 05:38:55 PM
Black Street Ported C Reg on ebay today. Ref 230437987879. TWR bodykit 132k. Berkshire.
Was on ebay last year but didn\'t make reserve. Buy it Now this time £2500. ebay name has changed but looks like same seller.
Hurrah....1st post past the post on this one and Ian\'s green light against his name hasn\'t even lit up yet......yippee Stu is out but Dibs is lit...hmm is he trying to get past on the rails....too late mate.
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Post by: A7RXY on February 15, 2010, 07:24:12 PM
Green Light ? what is that man on.............I\'ll have some
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Post by: syebba on February 15, 2010, 08:24:16 PM
A good price for a road going series 2 I reckon...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 19, 2010, 12:51:39 PM
Quote from: Ian65;673395For sale on Exile.... TCV 63Y, white series 2, taxed & test and a set of polished Elford sonics included for £400 ono
A good price for a road going series 2 I reckon...
Was in Norwich for a short time early last year, before that in Midlands area. This car must have had the longest ebay sellers written blog on any car, which I printed off. About 3 pages from Baz in Norwich. Don\'t think it had the Elford wheels included then. They look quite good in polished form.
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Post by: A R on February 21, 2010, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: Ian65;673395For sale on Exile.... TCV 63Y, white series 2, taxed & test and a set of polished Elford sonics included for £400 ono
A good price for a road going series 2 I reckon...
That one is mine and I tought it was a give away price considering all the spares that come with it. ( Elfords not on )
I am glad that the buyer who was coming did not get here this weekend and that the other two sort of fizzle out.
Yesterday morning I took the NSX out of the garage and put this one in. New fuel filter, oil and oil filter and well I am keeping it for another year.
It was a sale out of boredom and frustration of not finding a Glass roof, but after all it is FUN car and the summer is around the corner.
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Post by: A7RXY on February 21, 2010, 05:46:10 PM
A very good decision, as they can now no longer be replaced, but dont do what I did and leave it it the garage for 11 years, or it will cost you more than just a few filters to get it on the road again.
Good luck
Dibs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 21, 2010, 05:56:14 PM
Hi Ary, Yep, as Dibs, a good decision. Mine has done about 100 miles in the last 3 months. Getting quite wound up about it, but just not been fit....have to wait for the sun.....it\'s on it\'s way.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 21, 2010, 05:58:02 PM
Also another White 1983 Series 2 on ebay today. \'JAZ\' registration.
Reading area, Ref 270535351679
Dibs\'s green light is \'on\' again....yippee, 1st home AGAIN..... Stu, Keith, Ian, all green lights OUT. Come on boys.
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Post by: A7RXY on February 21, 2010, 06:35:57 PM
The sly old fox is getting too good at this..........
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 21, 2010, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: David Nock;673970Also another White 1983 Series 2 on ebay today. \'JAZ\' registration.
Reading area, Ref 270535351679
Dibs\'s green light is \'on\' again....yippee, 1st home AGAIN..... Stu, Keith, Ian, all green lights OUT. Come on boys.
Ian is too busy pulling my old car apart and I\'m feeling sad cos I had her for 12 years.:(
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Post by: syebba on February 21, 2010, 08:24:15 PM
Quote from: David Nock;673969Hi Ary, Yep, as Dibs, a good decision. Mine has done about 100 miles in the last 3 months. Getting quite wound up about it, but just not been fit....have to wait for the sun.....it\'s on it\'s way.
Hah i love the brits obsession with the sun,it\'s on it\'s way,r u sure after the last 2 appaling,snigger summers! I can\'t wait for the met office prediction for 2010 summer,er let me guess UK is skint,met office funded by gov,it\'ll be a bbq summer!:evillaugh Stay here & spend ur money,don\'t take it abroad where they get more than 2 days above 30c.!:evillaugh ta stu
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Post by: syebba on February 21, 2010, 08:26:22 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;674003Ian is too busy pulling my old car apart and I\'m feeling sad cos I had her for 12 years.:(
Was that black rex urs then?
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Post by: syebba on February 21, 2010, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: A R;673913That one is mine and I tought it was a give away price considering all the spares that come with it. ( Elfords not on )
I am glad that the buyer who was coming did not get here this weekend and that the other two sort of fizzle out.
Yesterday morning I took the NSX out of the garage and put this one in. New fuel filter, oil and oil filter and well I am keeping it for another year.
It was a sale out of boredom and frustration of not finding a Glass roof, but after all it is FUN car and the summer is around the corner.
You can find glass sunroofs but their pricey,a few recently have come up on US ebay,but been many bidders,up to $185 dollars plus shipping.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 21, 2010, 08:34:10 PM
Quote from: syebba;674016Hah i love the brits obsession with the sun,it\'s on it\'s way,r u sure after the last 2 appaling,snigger summers! I can\'t wait for the met office prediction for 2010 summer,er let me guess UK is skint,met office funded by gov,it\'ll be a bbq summer!:evillaugh Stay here & spend ur money,don\'t take it abroad where they get more than 2 days above 30c.!:evillaugh ta stu
I have it on good authority that summers going to be on a wednesday this year!
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Post by: syebba on February 21, 2010, 08:36:43 PM
low starting price. just noticed the mirrors,l/h side has uk cricket bat & r/h side OZ smoothies! I\'ll get me anorak now. ta stu.
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Post by: syebba on February 21, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
Quote from: Ian65;674021I have it on good authority that summers going to be on a wednesday this year!
Hehe,can u be more specific,it starts on a wednesday,what date? as i\'d like to be able to pull my rex out the garage without it & me getting drenched! ta stu..:spank
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Post by: syebba on February 21, 2010, 08:43:34 PM
Nah,i\'ll make it easier what year do you think the uk will actually get a summer!
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 21, 2010, 08:55:39 PM
Quote from: syebba;674017Was that black rex urs then?
No, He\'s had my old scrapper for running gear, she was well beyond repair and I cant think of a better home for all the useful bits.
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Post by: syebba on February 21, 2010, 09:00:04 PM
Ian\'s put the scrappers bits to good use then.
Just looked at the met office forecast for 2010,unbelievable,theyre forecasting \'another bbq summer\',i\'m not joking[source daily mail online] Ta stu...
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Post by: Ian65 on February 21, 2010, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: syebba;674033Ian\'s put the scrappers bits to good use then.
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Post by: daverey on February 22, 2010, 12:01:43 AM
Quote from: David Nock;673970Also another White 1983 Series 2 on ebay today. \'JAZ\' registration.
Reading area, Ref 270535351679
Dibs\'s green light is \'on\' again....yippee, 1st home AGAIN..... Stu, Keith, Ian, all green lights OUT. Come on boys.
Looked at this about 5 years ago was a very nice car but looks to have deteriorated a little since. Was close to Roteknics and I believe was purchased from them, also had a rebuild by them.
p.s. Not the first this time David.
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Post by: A7RXY on February 22, 2010, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: Ian65;674039Been busy this weekend getting the bits off it...
Someone had a busy weekend...............it rained most of the weekend down here
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 22, 2010, 10:39:41 AM
Snow here, 3 inches yesterday...
As for windscreen, same here when I broke Silver scrapper B239 WKK. After a couple of hours ....smash! Floorpan looked good on scrapper Ian/Keith. Do you get a feeling when cutting into bits that the metal on 1st gens was good and strong? I did.
Davery, I need to watch out for your green light as well do I?
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Post by: A7RXY on February 22, 2010, 10:51:11 AM
David just spotted where the green light is, will now keep an eye on it...............
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Post by: gnj37 on February 22, 2010, 05:09:40 PM
has any body looked at this car as the owner seems to think body wise she damn near perfect the engine suposed to be imported if this makes any difference other than its not original
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 22, 2010, 05:45:17 PM
Quote from: THE MAD KIWI;671575hmm looks ok but no t&t and £750 hmmm i smell a rusty rat
and a 13b with a 4brl well i know they are some around ot of rx4s etc but hmm here ratty rat
To gnj37 Various things make me think \'that\'s odd\'.
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Post by: gnj37 on February 22, 2010, 06:51:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;674265To gnj37 Various things make me think \'that\'s odd\'.
such as ? not hard to spot the novice here
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Post by: daverey on February 22, 2010, 11:08:47 PM
Quote from: David Nock;674126Snow here, 3 inches yesterday...
Davery, I need to watch out for your green light as well do I?
No need to watch I\'m not in the same league as you and Ian.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 23, 2010, 11:17:45 AM
Quote from: gnj37;674293such as ? not hard to spot the novice here
Well, Mad Kiwi is asking why a 13B would be dropped in the car whilst retaining it\'s Nikki carb setup. That\'s odd for one.
Let\'s just say there\'s other things as well. If you\'re really interested in the car ring me on 07840 060760.
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Post by: syebba on February 24, 2010, 05:35:13 PM
I think were being unfair on this car,if the bodyworks almost rust free,then it would be a good buy as long as u could do the engine wiring & the 13b is alright after over a decade of not being run?i think they said 13b imported 1990,that makes 20 years!!! ta stu..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 24, 2010, 06:54:36 PM
Quote from: syebba;674809I think were being unfair on this car,if the bodyworks almost rust free,then it would be a good buy as long as u could do the engine wiring & the 13b is alright after over a decade of not being run?i think they said 13b imported 1990,that makes 20 years!!! ta stu..
Maybe so and my other worries have been fairly well sorted after a couple of phone calls.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 24, 2010, 07:06:38 PM
12 years is a long time for it to be laid up, even with new parts going on. 95% complete as well..... as anyone who\'s restored a car will testify, that last 5% takes some doing. Having said that, maybe a fresh injection of enthusiasm from a new owner is what that car needs. Lets hope someone finishes it off, it would be a shame if it just got broken up, it looks too good for that.
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Post by: gnj37 on February 24, 2010, 08:56:44 PM
Thanks to david for checking car out. bought it today cheque in post great that forum members keep a eye out for beginners like myself. Not so worried about motor as i would like to see it down will post some photos when i get it home .
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Post by: syebba on February 24, 2010, 09:12:20 PM
Cool,a new 1st gen owner,ask anything on the forum & we\'ll do our best to hinder! Mr Nock does seem to be a good chap,dose\'nt he,i take it,he sniffed out the details/history for you. On anorak inspection of the photo\'s the body looks very good & wheels too,have fun with it. ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on February 24, 2010, 09:12:24 PM
Quote from: gnj37;674860Thanks to david for checking car out. bought it today cheque in post great that forum members keep a eye out for beginners like myself. Not so worried about motor as i would like to see it down will post some photos when i get it home .
Great!! Well done. Put some pictures up when you get it home and if we can help with any advice to help you get it on the road, feel free to ask away!
We aren\'t all experts on here but between us we have hundreds of years of experience of living with and maintaining 1st gen RX7\'s. If you have a problem, someone on here will probably already have had the some one and sussed it out themselves!
If you have or want a 1st gen, this is the place to be.
Cheers, Ian
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 24, 2010, 09:14:27 PM
Congratulations! I love a story with a happy ending. Keith...
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Post by: A7RXY on February 24, 2010, 09:26:42 PM
gnj37..............congrats and good luck, wellcome to what my wife call the sad B\'s forum.
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Post by: gnj37 on February 24, 2010, 09:37:29 PM
cheers everyone can\'t wait to get it home going to take a week or so to get it home and then i can have a fiddle gary
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Post by: syebba on February 24, 2010, 09:38:52 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;674881gnj37..............congrats and good luck, wellcome to what my wife call the sad B\'s forum.
Hehe, well my trouble & strife is just as bad,everytime she see\'s me on this site,she goes coorrrrrr & does the 5 knuckle shuffle in front of her crotch!:2Rolleyes ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on February 24, 2010, 09:50:51 PM
What is the VRTax in Ireland,i\'ve heard it\'s higher than here. You may be lucky & be able to get engine registered as a 1.3 due to it\'s 13b engine swap,others have done it. ta stu..
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Post by: gnj37 on February 24, 2010, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: syebba;674891What is the VRTax in Ireland,i\'ve heard it\'s higher than here. You may be lucky & be able to get engine registered as a 1.3 due to it\'s 13b engine swap,others have done it. ta stu..
northern ireland same as yourselfs if i brought this car south because of high immissions not sure if thats spelt correctly the road tax would cost more than bloody car
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 24, 2010, 11:52:29 PM
Quote from: syebba;674885Hehe, well my trouble & strife is just as bad,everytime she see\'s me on this site,she goes coorrrrrr & does the 5 knuckle shuffle in front of her crotch!:2Rolleyes ta stu..
Haha, That sounds familiar, I think I must live with your wifes sister :rollin
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 25, 2010, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: syebba;674870Cool,a new 1st gen owner,ask anything on the forum & we\'ll do our best to hinder! Mr Nock does seem to be a good chap,dose\'nt he,i take it,he sniffed out the details/history for you. On anorak inspection of the photo\'s the body looks very good & wheels too,have fun with it. ta stu..
It was the history Stu. The car on ebay that Gary\'s bought had no visible Reg but a Reg date was given. That\'s nothing in itself except the seller sold a Green S3 last year with exactly the SAME Reg date. I phoned the seller on Gary\'s behalf and he gave me the Blue car Reg No. without hesitation. Here\'s the fun, both cars WERE registered on DVLA on the same date. Now admittedly it\'s the 1st day of \'B\' Reg\'s for both of them, but in the whole 151 Series 3\'s that I\'ve got, only 1 other has that date. What\'s the odds?? Massive I\'d say. I asked a few other questions as well; the seller didn\'t like the Green car so bought/sold it quickly, this Blue car he\'s got from a friendly dealer who\'d got the 13B for it etc, etc, but the guy sounded right enough. Trouble is it\'s not easy to guess at condition from a distance is it? Gary. It was a pleasure helping. Much as I didn\'t want to rubbish the seller in public, I didn\'t want anyone to get scammed. Difficult. Hope it\'s as good as it seems to be.
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Post by: A7RXY on February 25, 2010, 12:29:57 PM
Well done that man...................
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Post by: Ian65 on February 25, 2010, 12:38:14 PM
goes to show the value of all Daves hard work recording these cars.
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Post by: syebba on February 25, 2010, 12:55:33 PM
I\'d be interested what carbs on the 13b under the standard air filter which is used on our 12a cars,probably nikki. Should imagine u could fit a holley carb,but finding an inlet manifold? Holleys easy to tune up & cheap. ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on February 26, 2010, 08:53:42 PM
B914 EGT on ebay... is this the same seller that\'s had it up for a while?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 27, 2010, 01:01:12 PM
Looks like a different seller. The car now seems to be in Worcestershire, whereas it was in Hertfordshire. A lot of owner changes.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 01, 2010, 09:56:53 PM
I remember it from pistonheads a while back too-seems a bit strange to not renew the MOT before selling so methinks it\'s a touch rotton.
Tim
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Post by: kiwi-mick on March 01, 2010, 11:26:39 PM
Hello everyone just thought i\'d add my baby to the list if your still collecting info TPM180X silver series 2 on the road (been sorn for 2 years as i only did 120miles a year in her) 50800 miles on clock from new
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Post by: myatt1972 on March 02, 2010, 12:58:36 AM
That looks a stunning series 2, I,m sure david will be pleased to add another car to his list. Thats if he hasnt got it already. Keith...
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Post by: Ian65 on March 02, 2010, 08:22:33 AM
Wow, that\'s a gorgeous series 2, very nice!
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Post by: syebba on March 02, 2010, 11:14:22 AM
Very smart,not many s2\'s left,why the 2 ariels on the car? ta stu..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 02, 2010, 05:26:30 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;676101That looks a stunning series 2, I,m sure david will be pleased to add another car to his list. Thats if he hasnt got it already. Keith...
No I hadn\'t got it. Now added to Series 2 section.....Thanks Mick and a very warm welcome.
Series 2\'s so far amount to only 19 on the roads, 31 on SORN (or Project Cars), 7 unknown status....Total 57.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on March 02, 2010, 06:54:56 PM
Very smart,not many s2\'s left,why the 2 ariels on the car? ta stu..
thanks for the greetings everyone not sure about the ariels did wonder myself maybe factory ariel wasn\'t up to scratch and someone added one?? she\'s been sitting idle for two years but now back in the light of day thank fully.:wave
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Post by: syebba on March 02, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
so there\'s probably no more than 50 s2\'s on the road or sorned according to inspector nocks calculations,this makes the s3\'s common! ta stu..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 03, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Quote from: syebba;676327so there\'s probably no more than 50 s2\'s on the road or sorned according to inspector nocks calculations,this makes the s3\'s common! ta stu..
Yep, it does Stu, 43 Series 3 known roadgoing, 86 SORN or Project Cars laid up, 21 not known about.....150 in total.
The whole of my register shot up when Tim at RX motors dumped the info about his Dorset Massive on us... a yard full of S3\'s and a goodly amount of S2\'s.
By contrast the S1\'s have dropped to only 2 roadgoing now, with that Black S1 of E de K\'s coming off the road (given away as chassis only). There\'s about a Dozen S1\'s laid up.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 03, 2010, 11:26:36 AM
The not known about\'s by the way are where I\'m reasonably certain a car exists but because I\'ve no Reg I cannot tell whether it\'s roadgoing or laid up.
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Post by: Ian65 on March 03, 2010, 04:21:09 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 03, 2010, 06:00:19 PM
Might wait for it to turn up elsewhere if it gets sold. That rear \'GB\' No. Plate and window sticker might give it away. Logged it anyway under Royston, possibly been there a long time.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 03, 2010, 06:20:22 PM
I think this is it. The front nearside wing colour, the slightly off-level front No. plate, also a recon engine in 1997 is a common factor to both.
It was at Japanese Auto Extravaganza in 2002, Still on MRC pics. And are the front headlight washers blanked on both?
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Post by: Ian65 on March 03, 2010, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: David Nock;676562I think this is it. The front nearside wing colour, the slightly off-level front No. plate, also a recon engine in 1997 is a common factor to both.
It was at Japanese Auto Extravaganza in 2002, Still on MRC pics. And are the front headlight washers blanked on both?
same n/s/f tyre, no headlight washers, varying paint shades and front end panels slightly out of alignment....... it\'s the same car alright!
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Post by: A7RXY on March 03, 2010, 06:32:49 PM
Detective Nock or what......................
Ian did you go for that sunroof ?
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Post by: syebba on March 03, 2010, 07:01:16 PM
Another case solved by inspector nock,told u no 1st gens safe! The front seats are different,but i suppose these are easily removed.
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Post by: syebba on March 03, 2010, 07:57:50 PM
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Post by: Ian65 on March 03, 2010, 08:56:55 PM
Quote from: syebba;676574Another case solved by inspector nock,told u no 1st gens safe! The front seats are different,but i suppose these are easily removed.
I thought that but looking again I reckon it\'s just the sunset shining on them
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Post by: Ian65 on March 03, 2010, 08:59:52 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;676566Detective Nock or what......................
Ian did you go for that sunroof ?
No, I quite fancy one but that\'s about 100 quid overpriced. I\'ll drop on one eventually. Sooner or later a project car will come up on ebay with one for the same money as that. For those reasons, I won\'t be investing....I\'m out!
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Post by: syebba on March 03, 2010, 09:54:24 PM
I think your right,at 1st glance the front seats look cream leather in daves photo,must be the sun.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 04, 2010, 11:09:02 AM
Deffo the same car. It was also featured in the old RX7 club mag \'Rotary Ravings 2004\'. The writeup says \'Bought from Jimmies in 1997, needed a new engine then at 95,000 miles\'. The writeup also goes on to say it had new wings (pre 2004) by Tim at RX motors, also door mirrors resprayed (one looks Gold in the 2002 pic). Also in the 2004 article there\'s a close-up front shot with the headlamp washers capped off.
Sooo....I had the Reg all along.....I also had the owner\'s name (doesn\'t seem to have changed hands) ......but I didn\'t know whereabouts in the country it was...now I do.....SMUG LOOK EMOTICON COME ON DOWN.............YEH!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 04, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 06, 2010, 09:34:06 PM
I don\'t think those foglights are quite visible enough:D
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Post by: syebba on March 06, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
They must live somewhere very foggy. The rear foglight on 1st gens looks tacky,like an afterthought,it could be built in to one of the reverse light apertures on the main rear lens. ta stu..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 06, 2010, 09:53:07 PM
Thats exactly what I did, I couldn\'t stand it dangling down looking all nasty so I now only have one reverse light.
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Post by: syebba on March 06, 2010, 10:00:24 PM
I know u did,that\'s where i got the idea.:bandit Only thing i\'d change on 1st gen is rear dangly foglight & the UK barn doors for mirrors to ozzy spec,apart from that i think it\'s a g8,sleek looking car. ta stu..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 07, 2010, 11:45:27 AM
I must agree the mirrors are ridiculous-unless you\'re driving with the wind then they might help a little.:Giggle
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Post by: Ian65 on March 08, 2010, 03:07:11 PM
whats the history with this one? can i smell a 12at conversion??:Thumbs-up
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 09, 2010, 06:50:44 PM
Mileage stacks up as was owned in 2004 by an MRC member who reported he had 23,000 miles on it at that time. Last year has seen it move around quite a bit though. Standard 12a as far as I know? It should still be on posts somewhere (several) dating from 2004.
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Post by: Marcrs on March 09, 2010, 07:49:33 PM
Quote from: syebba;677295They must live somewhere very foggy. The rear foglight on 1st gens looks tacky,like an afterthought,it could be built in to one of the reverse light apertures on the main rear lens. ta stu..
I considered this too, but I think I\'ll modify the rear lights, so they are both twin filament bulbs, one pair for tail & brake, and one pair for tail & fog :)
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Post by: mooragerx7 on March 09, 2010, 07:57:40 PM
Quote from: Marcrs;677890I considered this too, but I think I\'ll modify the rear lights, so they are both twin filament bulbs, one pair for tail & brake, and one pair for tail & fog :)
I have built my fog light into the righthand rear light in the reverse part of it so buh bye ulgy warty foglight on the back :wiggle
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Post by: syebba on March 09, 2010, 08:08:23 PM
the dangly fog light looks like a \'universal\' bolt on from halfrauds. Seems like it\'s not just me that thinks they look tacky.[i\'ve seen nicer lights on bicycles!] ta stu.
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Post by: A7RXY on March 09, 2010, 08:27:23 PM
l agree but I\'m trying to keep my car as standard as poss, so I\'ll have to live with them, aswell as the mirrors.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on March 09, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: David Nock;677865It should still be on posts somewhere (several) dating from 2004.
in for sale ad\'s? would love a bit more history for this car if anyone knows.. cheers mick
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 10, 2010, 05:25:27 PM
//www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59983 (Car had no Ticket for that sale price, believe it was MOT\'d by a later owner)
Also on Pages 10,11,12,16 and 17 of this post.
Also I\'m sure it was pictured in the 1st gen section in 2004, member \'Christopher\' but can\'t find the post.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on March 10, 2010, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: David Nock;678091www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59983 (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59983) (Car had no Ticket for that sale price, believe it was MOT\'d by a later owner)
Also on Pages 10,11,12,16 and 17 of this post.
Also I\'m sure it was pictured in the 1st gen section in 2004, member \'Christopher\' but can\'t find the post.
cheers david will check it out
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Post by: syebba on March 10, 2010, 06:13:50 PM
How much is this car up for & where? Ta stu
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Post by: Ian65 on March 10, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
1984 A reg series 3 breaking for spares in Derby... on ebay
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Post by: evo6rs on March 11, 2010, 11:48:16 AM
Any questions anybody has on car mentioned above by David can be directed to me on 07970 782147.
Test drive / inspection welcome - loads of history with car - can send photo\'s if you provide me with an email address (waiting to get home in the daylight to take some snaps-might be Friday or the weekend before this happens)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 11, 2010, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: Ian65;659425For sale on Ebay in Herts, A244 MEL, series 3, 1984
hopefully getting contact details for you vultures.
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Post by: Ian65 on March 11, 2010, 05:42:31 PM
This red one, B682 XEW, was the one resprayed from Opal Green, and is now in Lancs, I can\'t remember where that was before, somewhere down south I think.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 11, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
Quote from: Ian65;678354it\'s the green one, A244 MEL, I was referring to! When it was last on Ebay it was in Herts, it\'s now in Derbyshire.
The red one,B682 XEW, which was resprayed from Opal Green, is now in Lancs, I can\'t remember where that was before, somewhere down south I think.
Sorry Ian, I nicknacked my post, realised I had made a mistake, then I rewrote my post in the edit period. But you\'ve been too quick and caught me out. Isn\'t real time posting fun!
Red one was in Potters Bar. Dave.
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Post by: A7RXY on March 11, 2010, 05:47:19 PM
Yes we do, looks a bit tatty now, the rust on the front wing looks as thou there may be alot covered up by filler elsewhere, and those screws holding the moulding on, makes you wonder how it got a MOT in December.
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Post by: Ian65 on March 11, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: David Nock;678357Sorry Ian, I nicknacked my post, realised I had made a mistake, then I rewrote my post in the edit period. But you\'ve been too quick and caught me out. Isn\'t real time posting fun!
Red one was in Potters Bar. Dave.
I thought I was going mad!! I\'d replied to a post that never existed!
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Post by: Ian65 on March 11, 2010, 05:55:03 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;678358Yes we do, looks a bit tatty now, the rust on the front wing looks as thou there may be alot covered up by filler elsewhere, and those screws holding the moulding on, makes you wonder how it got a MOT in December.
it only made £751 last time and that was with 12 mths ticket and before the front corner had been shunted. It\'ll do well to make more than that this time.
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Post by: syebba on March 11, 2010, 06:25:05 PM
(http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1556/1556941-1t.jpg) (javascript:void(0)) (http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1556/1556941-2t.jpg) (javascript:void(0)) (http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1556/1556941-3t.jpg) (javascript:void(0)) Owned from new by present owner. Bought from Donalds Garage Peterborough in October 1983. Car never used in winter & always garaged. 92K miles (MOT certificates kept). A1 condition exterior, interior & mechanical. Pleasure to drive. MOT to May 2010. Personal registration no has now been replaced with original registration no. Price could be negotiable
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Post by: syebba on March 11, 2010, 06:50:47 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;678378Pistonheads write up, only one owner.
(http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1556/1556941-1t.jpg) (http://javascriptOwned from new by present owner. Bought from Donalds Garage Peterborough in October 1983. Car never used in winter & always garaged. 92K miles (MOT certificates kept). A1 condition exterior, interior & mechanical. Pleasure to drive. MOT to May 2010. Personal registration no has now been replaced with original registration no. Price could be negotiable
Short mot may 2010,looks tidy in pics though. ta stu
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Post by: syebba on March 11, 2010, 06:56:24 PM
Quote from: Ian65;678303I\'ve already swooped looking for some tasty morsels, ie petrol tank and trailing arm.
Haha,i thought you would,you can sniff out a rotting rex from miles away. Let rex rest in peace,no chance with you around! Let the carrion feast commence.:Viking ta stu...
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Post by: Ian65 on March 11, 2010, 07:07:51 PM
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Post by: A7RXY on March 11, 2010, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;678378Pistonheads write up, only one owner.
(http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1556/1556941-1t.jpg) (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:void%280%29) (http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1556/1556941-2t.jpg) (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:void%280%29) (http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/1556/1556941-3t.jpg) (http://javascript%3cb%3e%3c/b%3E:void%280%29) Owned from new by present owner. Bought from Donalds Garage Peterborough in October 1983. Car never used in winter & always garaged. 92K miles (MOT certificates kept). A1 condition exterior, interior & mechanical. Pleasure to drive. MOT to May 2010. Personal registration no has now been replaced with original registration no. Price could be negotiable
David the new reg for this car is shown under "Members chit chat"
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Post by: RamoNZ on March 11, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: Ian65;677260Sold via pistonheads...apparently
Last owner 14 years, kept in garage - MOTs show approx 1600 miles travelled in that time. Been on SORN for about 12 years.
Will be back on the road in a month.
Fog lights will be lost...
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 11, 2010, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;678468Sold to me :)
Last owner 14 years, kept in garage - MOTs show approx 1600 miles travelled in that time. Been on SORN for about 12 years.
Will be back on the road in a month.
Fog lights will be lost...
Nice one chap, and welcome-the 1st gen section is expanding rapidly which is great news. Have you much to do on her? Would be good too see you at brooklands we\'re trying to get as many FB\'s there as possible.
Tim
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Post by: A7RXY on March 12, 2010, 08:28:50 AM
Good luck Ramo, Mine was olny laid up for 11 yrs, but took alot longer than 1 month to get back on the road, mind you most of that was getting parts, and carb problems. Once again good luck and lets hope its ready for Brooklands.
Dibs
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Post by: syebba on March 12, 2010, 08:51:09 AM
Looks very smart,i think you,ve done well. Quite a few of these cars seem to of been laid up for 7 + years,so hopefully you won\'t find the dreaded rust. You\'ll need to keep 1 foglight for mot or it is possible to relocate into rear light lens. There seems to be more 1st gen owners on this forum now. Good luck recommissioning your rex.:bandit ta stu...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 12, 2010, 12:38:57 PM
Welcome Ramo....hope we can hinder you a bit (as Stu is fond of saying). I think we tend to give 2 bits of good advice for every 1 bit of crap so filter it out mate.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 12, 2010, 12:44:51 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;678442 David the new reg for this car is shown under "Members chit chat"
Thanks Dibs, entered it under it\'s old \'A\' reg and noted its personal plate in my \'Changed Registrations\' section....(you have to have one of those as well as road runners, SORNs, unknowns, known scrappers, probable scrappers, and also cars gone abroad outside of UK and Ireland.....no wonder I\'m bushed after ever logging session).
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 12, 2010, 12:48:03 PM
Details are stu_morton at hotmail dot com Mobile 07977 186237
Car is in Ilkeston area.
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Post by: A7RXY on March 12, 2010, 01:05:19 PM
Quote from: David Nock;678579Thanks Dibs, entered it under it\'s old \'A\' reg and noted its personal plate in my \'Changed Registrations\' section....(you have to have one of those as well as road runners, SORNs, unknowns, known scrappers, probable scrappers, and also cars gone abroad outside of UK and Ireland.....no wonder I\'m bushed after ever logging session).
David its good to know you are being kept busy, what will you do when the sun comes out............ :rollin
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Post by: RamoNZ on March 12, 2010, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;678490Nice one chap, and welcome-the 1st gen section is expanding rapidly which is great news. Have you much to do on her? Would be good too see you at brooklands we\'re trying to get as many FB\'s there as possible.
Tim
Thanks for the words of support guys!
It is my first Rotary as well, but fear not - I grew up around many people who owned them and are aware of the pitfalls. My brother in law has a \'79 S1 with a 12a bridge and Webers and a mutual friend with a full house 13bt but same age.
Work on this as I see it will be the following: Brake hydraulics + general nose around. Clutch Hydraulics All oils and fluids, upgrade the ignition with better coils and new bits and convert to DLIDFIS (got a new old stock rotor cap £7 on ebay yesterday!) Wiper motors front and rear seem reluctant to work Door window motors are slow, but ill clean the contacts and see how I go Passenger door does not open.... Exhaust is original, and therefore not great (only the back box is blowing though) Suspension is predictably not brilliant after sitting so long Steering is heavy - ill adjust the box and see, but maybe its just cause I am too used to power steering? Coolant and heater hoses shot.
Good bits: Body is fantastic Wheels refurbed Radiator is good Tyres are good Interior is great - 63,800 on the clock Main thing - the engine starts first time and idles well!
Main issues are going to be parts supply.
Hydraulic cylinders, hoses and exhaust system all needed. Im looking for headers mainly as the rest will be off the shelf universal stuff - can anyone help?
Cheers.
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Post by: syebba on March 12, 2010, 02:13:59 PM
Quote from: David Nock;678578Welcome Ramo....hope we can hinder you a bit (as Stu is fond of saying). I think we tend to give 2 bits of good advice for every 1 bit of crap so filter it out mate.
Haha,i was gonna say that,but 99% of the advice i give is a hinderance,but i\'m learning,i\'m getting to grips with the 4wd,sequential twin turbo\'s & paddle shifts on the XR7 Fb\'s!:Giggle ta stu..
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Post by: Steve-M on March 12, 2010, 02:39:57 PM
Hi Dave,
C151 DYK, I bought it off ebay a few months back, bright green front over silver & no windscreen. Now in Bristol.
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Post by: syebba on March 12, 2010, 02:56:20 PM
Hi steve, get some pics up if u can,i think i remember ur car,it was a kawasaki type green over silver. ta stu..[Dave\'s getting busy!]
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 12, 2010, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: Steve-M;678596Hi Dave,
C151 DYK, I bought it off ebay a few months back, bright green front over silver & no windscreen. Now in Bristol.
Hi Steve, Welcome. I remember it....was in Wales. Silver/Lime Green front.
Forgive me but I listed it as a possible parts car. Are you going to do it up? In which case I\'d be very pleased to change listing to runner.
Dave
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Post by: mooragerx7 on March 12, 2010, 07:00:11 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;678589Thanks for the words of support guys!
It is my first Rotary as well, but fear not - I grew up around many people who owned them and are aware of the pitfalls. My brother in law has a \'79 S1 with a 12a bridge and Webers and a mutual friend with a full house 13bt but same age.
Work on this as I see it will be the following: Brake hydraulics + general nose around. Clutch Hydraulics All oils and fluids, upgrade the ignition with better coils and new bits and convert to DLIDFIS (got a new old stock rotor cap £7 on ebay yesterday!) Wiper motors front and rear seem reluctant to work Door window motors are slow, but ill clean the contacts and see how I go Passenger door does not open.... Exhaust is original, and therefore not great (only the back box is blowing though) Suspension is predictably not brilliant after sitting so long Steering is heavy - ill adjust the box and see, but maybe its just cause I am too used to power steering? Coolant and heater hoses shot.
Good bits: Body is fantastic Wheels refurbed Radiator is good Tyres are good Interior is great - 63,800 on the clock Main thing - the engine starts first time and idles well!
Main issues are going to be parts supply.
Hydraulic cylinders, hoses and exhaust system all needed. Im looking for headers mainly as the rest will be off the shelf universal stuff - can anyone help?
Cheers.
I might have some headers (got them with an engine i got but cant rember if i kept them or not) if i do ill let you know
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Post by: RamoNZ on March 12, 2010, 07:19:28 PM
Thanks mate, i\'d be very interested.
Getting exited as tomorrow is the first time I get to play with the car.
Hope the rain clears..
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Post by: syebba on March 12, 2010, 08:45:30 PM
Most,if not all of the parts you\'ll find from various sources,eg coolant hoses,i\'m pretty sure mazda still do,another guy needed top & bottom hose.
The main thing is the body & chassis are ok.
Windows/silicone spray all rubber channels 1st,then suspect the switches if not ok. My windows were painfully slow,now they whizz up & down after silicone spray.
What is DLIDFIS in your previous post?
If its just back box blowing i\'m sure you could get a replacement from rotechnics or wgt etc.
Wipers slow on front,could be just the rails need lubrication.
I\'ll do me best to hinder you,the others will be of indespensable use to you!
ta stu...
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Post by: RamoNZ on March 12, 2010, 09:54:19 PM
Thanks for the tips stu, was going to give that a go - bit of lube never hurt!
I have been out of the car scene for a while since getting company cars, but got dragged into it helping my mate who bought himself a MK2 GTi and wanted to make it faster - one thing led to another and we are going a bit crazy with it. Now that I am getting my hands dirty again I thought a clean RX7 would be a nice classic toy to treat myself to something I have always wanted.
Sorry to post a link from another forum, but it has some good photos of what we are doing. And, hopefully I may be able to hinder some of you guys with some general automotive assistance in exchange for the model and Rotary specific stuff which Im running a bit blind on.
As for DLIDFIS - Dual Leading Ignitor, Direct Fire Ignition System - easier starting, smoother running, few more bhp and possibly an mpg or 2. I have been looking for cheap upgrades and it seemed pretty straight forward and worthwhile since Im back to a carb for the first time in 12 years or so :)
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Post by: myatt1972 on March 12, 2010, 10:04:06 PM
Hi Ramonz, Good to see new 1st gen fans on here. Just a thought about your door that wont open, it is normally because the outside handle is stuck, if you prize it down then squirt some wd40 stuff in it to free it then open from the inside and job done. Keith...
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Post by: Ian65 on March 13, 2010, 08:49:04 AM
B147 WNM 1984 series 3 for sale on Autotrader, long mot
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Post by: Ian65 on March 13, 2010, 09:25:58 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;678468Sold to me :)
Last owner 14 years, kept in garage - MOTs show approx 1600 miles travelled in that time. Been on SORN for about 12 years.
Will be back on the road in a month.
Fog lights will be lost...
Welcome to the forum, sounds like a nice car!
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Post by: Ian65 on March 13, 2010, 09:28:25 AM
Quote from: Steve-M;678596Hi Dave,
C151 DYK, I bought it off ebay a few months back, bright green front over silver & no windscreen. Now in Bristol.
Welcome to the 1st gen forum Steve, what was the story with that 2 tone paint job? Are you going to keep it or go with the silver or the green?
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Post by: Steve-M on March 13, 2010, 12:02:59 PM
Hi Ian, the previous owner repaired some rust around the windscreen area and wanted to put some paint on to stop it rusting, unfortunately he only had green paint but not enough for the whole car! I was going to go back to silver and then possibly put some candy over the top but I do have a fair amount of kawasaki green and as there is green in every nook and cranny already maybe that\'s the way to go? All suggestions welcome as I change my mind on a daily basis.
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Post by: syebba on March 13, 2010, 03:53:41 PM
kawasaki green would look good. ta stu
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 13, 2010, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: Ian65;678718B147 WNM 1984 series 3 for sale on Autotrader, long mot
Looks quite nice. Wheels are smart. 205 miles away from me, which direction I don\'t know.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on March 13, 2010, 06:49:41 PM
Quote from: David Nock;678822Looks quite nice. Wheels are smart. 205 miles away from me, which direction I don\'t know.
anyone notice the underseal on the sills thou???? did think about it for a moment..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 13, 2010, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: Ian65;678720Here\'s an unusual one....
AVG 618W 1981 series 2 on Pistonheads
Automatic, no sunroof, no rear spoiler, aero mirrors, no side repeaters.
Hmm, this one is interesting. It was spotted by Rotaryguru in Sept 2009 in South London with a lady driver. He tagged it as an S2, understandably. Now the \'W\' reg given by DVLA to the car as an import dates to the Registration years only for Series 1\'s. The absence of the rear spoiler also suggests that it might be an S1. But the rear end and wheels say Series 2 loud and clear. So I just don\'t know. Anyhow, I like the look of it. I\'d like to try that auto...bet it\'s a bit weedy....but I\'d like to drive this car!!! Very suited to London traffic thinks I.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on March 13, 2010, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: David Nock;678830Hmm, this one is interesting. It was spotted by Rotaryguru in Sept 2009 in South London with a lady driver. He tagged it as an S2, understandably. Now the \'W\' reg given by DVLA to the car as an import dates to the Registration years only for Series 1\'s. The absence of the rear spoiler also suggests that it might be an S1. But the rear end and wheels say Series 2 loud and clear. So I just don\'t know. Anyhow, I like the look of it. I\'d like to try that auto...bet it\'s a bit weedy....but I\'d like to drive this car!!! Very suited to London traffic thinks I.
pretty certain it\'s a series 2 david, rear aerial and light washers and all the series 1 I had in aus had it embedded in the windscreen if i remember correctly and no washers for the lights. thou I am going back more than a few years here..
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Post by: syebba on March 13, 2010, 07:31:12 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;678829anyone notice the underseal on the sills thou???? did think about it for a moment..
Yep i noticed that,underseal on cills & rear valence,he may looking at the pics have done the inner arches as well.???????????? ta stu
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Post by: Ian65 on March 13, 2010, 07:59:23 PM
everything on that white car says series 2. I\'ve never seen an s2 without a factory sunroof though, they were options on the S1 but i thought that they were standard on the s2 & s3. Maybe the Aussie market models were different though.
RKK 326W, the red press car, was a series 2 on a \'W\' plate so the change over may have just caught the tail end of the \'W\'s I\'d say that it\'s a very early S2
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Post by: Ian65 on March 13, 2010, 08:10:47 PM
Quote from: syebba;678779kawasaki green would look good. ta stu
Yeah, on a ZX-6R!! surely not on a 1st gen with a burgundy interior. I think silver cars with the burgundy interiors look smart as do the white ones with the burgundy interior. I can\'t imagine Kawasaki green with that interior though. ( unless you\'re Austin Powers) I vote for a return to silver Steve!
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Post by: syebba on March 13, 2010, 08:35:14 PM
Haha,u & ur aversion to green. Kawasaki green with grey interior would look good,a few on aus rotary like that. It is a lairy colour,so each to their own,so steve you have 1 vote for silver & 1 for kawasaki green,that should make it a clearcut decision for you! I will say if your restoring the car to standard i wouldnt do the green,but hey if your modding it? ta stu...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-M on March 13, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
Unfortunately(?) the burgundy interior is in pretty good condition, plenty of shag pile left on the carpets etc! that\'s why I was leaning towards a brandywine/dark plum candy but then it\'s loads of extra work and I\'d rather be driving it this summer than being reminded about another unfinished project! Mods; does anybody keep the 12a lump or should I just swap it straight out? I\'m not mad for original but keeping the 12a is appealing it just seems new parts (seals etc) are non existent?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 13, 2010, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Steve-M;678862Unfortunately(?) the burgundy interior is in pretty good condition, plenty of shag pile left on the carpets etc! that\'s why I was leaning towards a brandywine/dark plum candy but then it\'s loads of extra work and I\'d rather be driving it this summer than being reminded about another unfinished project! Mods; does anybody keep the 12a lump or should I just swap it straight out? I\'m not mad for original but keeping the 12a is appealing it just seems new parts (seals etc) are non existent?
Keep the 12A in it, they\'re a sweet little engine and are ok in a small light car like a 1st gen. Just stick on a full sports exhaust system on it, if it hasn\'t got one already ( there are plenty of scrap cars about with good exhausts on them) to help it breathe. Mazda uk left the federal emission crap on the uk cars which sapped the power.... just junk all that and get a decent set of exhaust headers on it. Also, get rid of the viscous fan that acts like an enormous brake on the engine and replace it with an electric fan or a pair of 2nd hand ones from a toyota MR2 ( they bolt straight in) and you\'re good to go!
Enjoy it and worry about fettling it next winter when the nights are long and dark and there\'s sod all else to do!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on March 14, 2010, 11:59:47 AM
As I\'m looking to ditch the original exhaust, two things spring to mind - emissions and noise.
Will it pass mot and how loud will it be with headers straight through resonator and \'performance\' backbox? Subjective I know depending on muffler construction but does anyone have any links to a box that works for them?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on March 14, 2010, 12:50:49 PM
Emissions wise you should be ok with whatever system you go with as 7\'s our age only require a visual.
With regards loudness I\'ve got custom headers (when I say custom I mean homebrew) onto a stainless system with two silencers and it is not that loud. It pops and farts a fair bit but that\'s about it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on March 14, 2010, 01:57:27 PM
Always love the popping when I downshift :D
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on March 14, 2010, 05:28:19 PM
ooh yeah gotta love overrun flames:chat
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 15, 2010, 12:05:58 PM
Hi Guys, re threads 21st Febraury 2010 @ 05:58pm & 08:36pm, I picked up "JAZ" from reading a fortnight ago- this is my 2nd REX. Considering her age and with a little under 61K she\'s in pretty good condition although she needs some TLC and a few bits here and there. Am new to these forums so I will post some photos as soon as I can. Does anybody know where I can purchase an Owners Handbook either paperback or electronic edition? Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 15, 2010, 12:55:02 PM
Hi Cliff, welcome to the forum...
Do you mean the drivers/ owners manual ( that shows you where the controls etc are...)
These are all available on ebay for under 10 quid.
See page 17 of this thread for a tutorial I put up about putting photos onto the forum. Nice series 2 by the way, I always liked the white 1st gens.
Cheers, Ian
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on March 15, 2010, 02:05:45 PM
Hi cliff,try Brian[kiwimazda] on this forum for rear seatbelts.[or scrappers on ebay] ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 15, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: CHC;679233Hi Guys, re threads 21st Febraury 2010 @ 05:58pm & 08:36pm, I picked up "JAZ" from reading a fortnight ago- this is my 2nd REX. Considering her age and with a little under 61K she\'s in pretty good condition although she needs some TLC and a few bits here and there. Am new to these forums so I will post some photos as soon as I can. Does anybody know where I can purchase an Owners Handbook either paperback or electronic edition? Cliff
Hi Cliff and many welcomes.
The owners handbook may also be found from one of the cars that are broken quite often on here. I have a list of \'currently being broken\' cars if you want me to email it to you. Just email me - dgnock at btopenworld dot com Until you get sorted, just ask away and we\'ll all help from our books.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 15, 2010, 07:18:56 PM
Quote from: David Nock;572985The recent revisit of the Poll on "What RX7 have you got" has reminded me that I have been logging 1st Gens in the UK of which I can be fairly sure are runners or \'good on SORN\', not scappers. I have been doing this for a year now and my records run to 68 cars. Allow the odd 8 which may never come off SORN, or which may be duplicates (cos I\'ve tried hard to keep things straight where I know a cars moved between owners but it gets difficult at times). At this point I reckon there\'s about 60 running cars which have been \'in print\' somewhere, either logged on this club, for sale on e bay or on show at Rotorstock/on Calendars. I\'ve noted a little detail about each car, so if anyone wants to put the Series (1st Gen 1,2 or3), the colour and ideally a partial Reg No. up on here, I\'ll tell you if I\'ve got it logged. It would help to know if any owners are recent purchasers and where the car came from as it may be logged under somewhere else. Regular contributors to the 1st Gen section - Mark, Shaun, Stuart (Syebba), Daverey, Don P, are all duly logged and noted.
All good fun lads, I used to log Rotherham Corporation Bus Reg Nos as a youngster in the 1950\'s. You get old but your brain still works the same!
PS, I don\'t mind logging \'whole shell scrappers\' as well if they\'re stil on a Reg No. to ID them.
Hi David, I recently bought the White Gen 1 from Reading - JAZ 5127 (currently on SORN) as reported on 21st February (bought to restore and use). I became a member of the MRC last weekend and having read your thread on previous registrations wondered if you could check up on my 1st RX-7 - VLE 990X (2.6 GT) in Yellow. I owned it around 1987 and had it for 2-3 years and often wondered what became of her, be interested to find out. Regards Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 15, 2010, 07:21:40 PM
Quote from: David Nock;572985The recent revisit of the Poll on "What RX7 have you got" has reminded me that I have been logging 1st Gens in the UK of which I can be fairly sure are runners or \'good on SORN\', not scappers. I have been doing this for a year now and my records run to 68 cars. Allow the odd 8 which may never come off SORN, or which may be duplicates (cos I\'ve tried hard to keep things straight where I know a cars moved between owners but it gets difficult at times). At this point I reckon there\'s about 60 running cars which have been \'in print\' somewhere, either logged on this club, for sale on e bay or on show at Rotorstock/on Calendars. I\'ve noted a little detail about each car, so if anyone wants to put the Series (1st Gen 1,2 or3), the colour and ideally a partial Reg No. up on here, I\'ll tell you if I\'ve got it logged. It would help to know if any owners are recent purchasers and where the car came from as it may be logged under somewhere else. Regular contributors to the 1st Gen section - Mark, Shaun, Stuart (Syebba), Daverey, Don P, are all duly logged and noted.
All good fun lads, I used to log Rotherham Corporation Bus Reg Nos as a youngster in the 1950\'s. You get old but your brain still works the same!
PS, I don\'t mind logging \'whole shell scrappers\' as well if they\'re stil on a Reg No. to ID them.
Hi David, I recently bought the White Gen 1 from Reading - JAZ 5127 (currently on SORN) as reported on 21st February (bought to restore and use). I became a member of the MRC last weekend and having read your thread on previous registrations wondered if you could check up on my 1st RX-7 - VLE 990X (2.6 GT) in Yellow. I owned it around 1987 and had it for 2-3 years and often wondered what became of her, be interested to find out. Regards Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mpk490p on March 15, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Quote from: syebba;679256Hi cliff,try Brian[kiwimazda] on this forum for rear seatbelts.[or scrappers on ebay] ta stu..
as far as i know there never was a rear seat belt option in the uk, i have fitted a universal lap belt in mine (the fixing are there for it)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on March 15, 2010, 11:10:02 PM
Welcome to the 1st gen section Cliff:cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 16, 2010, 12:13:31 PM
Hi Cliff, VLE 990X. This is an Odd One indeed. DVLA throws up a Mazda yes, but 6546cc!! Wow, some motor. DVLA says 1979 car but 1st Reg here in 1981, so presume an Import.
Also last car colour Red. Not been licensed since 1993 so presume it\'s gone to heaven.
So....deduction time.... was it a Series 1, imported in \'81 and with a 2546cc engine???? i.e.13B (DVLA having mistyped the engine size). Resprayed Red between 1987 (you) and last keeper in 1993?
Interesting one. Any more info Cliff?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 16, 2010, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: Ian65;679238Hi Cliff, welcome to the forum...
Do you mean the drivers/ owners manual ( that shows you where the controls etc are...)
These are all available on ebay for under 10 quid.
See page 17 of this thread for a tutorial I put up about putting photos onto the forum. Nice series 2 by the way, I always liked the white 1st gens.
Cheers, Ian
Hi Ian, Yes I mean the drivers/owners manual explaining where everything should be and their intended purpose, have already purchased the Haynes Manual (1st book I buy for any vehicle). Appreciate your reply and shall keep an eye on ebay - don\'t really want to but an american version in case of variations. Like the sound of the Clymer - think this shall be a definite. Regards Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 17, 2010, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: David Nock;679490Hi Cliff, VLE 990X. This is an Odd One indeed. DVLA throws up a Mazda yes, but 6546cc!! Wow, some motor. DVLA says 1979 car but 1st Reg here in 1981, so presume an Import.
Also last car colour Red. Not been licensed since 1993 so presume it\'s gone to heaven.
So....deduction time.... was it a Series 1, imported in \'81 and with a 2546cc engine???? i.e.13B (DVLA having mistyped the engine size). Resprayed Red between 1987 (you) and last keeper in 1993?
Interesting one. Any more info Cliff?
Hi David, firstly thank you for coming up with details so quickly. Yes it was a 1979 Mark 1 Series 1 with a 2546cc engine imported approx 1981. Cannot remember if it were a 13B engine but it came in fully loaded including AC which for an early model was quite something then. Before and through my ownership it remained in bright yellow - I even remember doing body repairs and a total re-spray from top of door height to the skirts in my garage - bright yellow. It must have been re-coloured after I passed it on 1988/89 - it\'s a shame to hear that it probably never reached a good age but I suppose not everybody is dedicated like us. Will post some pics when I find them. Regards. Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on March 17, 2010, 11:31:37 PM
Hi Cliff welcome to the forum,looked at JAZ a few years ago but couldn\'t agree a price at the time but I did think the car was one of the better ones around then.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 18, 2010, 04:02:39 PM
Dave, is this car on your list?...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C144632/
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 18, 2010, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: Ian65;680111Dave, is this car on your list?...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C144632/
No Ian, tis now thanks....Nice looking S2. Price is a bit steep though. Low miles.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 18, 2010, 06:35:04 PM
Quote from: David Nock;680143No Ian, tis now thanks....Nice looking S2. Price is a bit steep though. Low miles.
There can\'t be many unmolested 1 owner cars left now, especially series 2\'s. Was that Clarion stereo standard fitment in a series 2? I\'ve only ever seen them in series 3\'s
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on March 18, 2010, 07:30:30 PM
I had a series 2 with what I think was a clarion, it also had a seperate amplifier all original.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 19, 2010, 08:04:09 AM
Quote from: daverey;679970Hi Cliff welcome to the forum,looked at JAZ a few years ago but couldn\'t agree a price at the time but I did think the car was one of the better ones around then.
Morning Dave, nice to speak to you and thanks for the welcome. Actually bought this via eBay a few weeks ago on a whim - but my god was I surprised when I picked her up. She is still in a tidy condition but does need some TLC and a few smallish jobs to revive her to former glory. Am a former RX7 enthusiast and really glad to be reunited to this niche family group. Regards Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 19, 2010, 08:15:10 AM
There can\'t be many unmolested 1 owner cars left now, especially series 2\'s. Was that Clarion stereo standard fitment in a series 2? I\'ve only ever seen them in series 3\'s
.
Morning Ian - nice looking rex. I picked up an 83 S2 with little under 61K & 3 previous owners 2 wks ago - not quite as good condition but aim to equal yours. Not sure about my stereo but am 99.9% positive that mine isn\'t the original. Regards Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mooragerx7 on March 19, 2010, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: CHC;680278Morning Ian - nice looking rex. I picked up an 83 S2 with little under 61K & 3 previous owners 2 wks ago - not quite as good condition but aim to equal yours. Not sure about my stereo but am 99.9% positive that mine isn\'t the original. Regards Cliff
im sure that they are the orginal stereo as that is the same as the one in my loft and the only type i have seen in the rx7 it is a clarion one isnt it? if so the speakers should match it all being clarion too as mine were
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on March 19, 2010, 02:29:39 PM
Exactly the same Clarion is fitted to the S2 83 Model I bought.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 19, 2010, 03:58:24 PM
Quote from: CHC;680278Morning Ian - nice looking rex. I picked up an 83 S2 with little under 61K & 3 previous owners 2 wks ago - not quite as good condition but aim to equal yours. Not sure about my stereo but am 99.9% positive that mine isn\'t the original. Regards Cliff
Sadly this doesn\'t belong to me Cliff, I put it on the thread in case David had missed it and he could check it off against his list. Looks nice though doesn\'t it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on March 19, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
How much to polish the wheels like yours Ian? I think they look great :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 19, 2010, 04:03:07 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;680296im sure that they are the orginal stereo as that is the same as the one in my loft and the only type i have seen in the rx7 it is a clarion one isnt it? if so the speakers should match it all being clarion too as mine were
All factory fitted stereos for the 1st gens were Clarion but the one in the photo is the later version fitted to later cars. Most series 2 cars had the old style stereos with \'spindles\' for the volume and tuning not the later DIN type I\'ve had a few series 2 centre console plastics and had to cut the stereo hole out to suit a modern DIN stereo.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: kiwi-mick on March 19, 2010, 11:29:41 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;680191I had a series 2 with what I think was a clarion, it also had a seperate amplifier all original.
ohh this jogged my memory a bit, do you mean a equaliser insted of amplifier? i remember having one years and years ago with a dated system that looked origional and it did have an equaliser of the same brand as the stereo and speakers .....?????
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Post by: myatt1972 on March 20, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
Yeah, thats the one. Ahh the good old days! Keith...
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Post by: Ian65 on March 20, 2010, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;680398How much to polish the wheels like yours Ian? I think they look great :)
To be fair, the one in the avatar is the best one on the car. David has just had his recut at Pristine and they look superb.... I think that you are looking at around 50 quid a wheel for a top notch professional refurb like Pristine do.
See this thread... http://mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62337
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 20, 2010, 09:10:03 PM
a series 2 had to come up a day after i pick up a series 3 damn my luck!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 21, 2010, 12:04:51 PM
I think it will be touch and go for poor EPH. I\'ll put him in scrap pile for the moment me\'thinks.
Spare 13B engine with him might pull the vulture crew??? A tasty morsel?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 21, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: Ian65;680649A18 BYY blue 1st reg 08.01.1985 sorned
GDB 17V silver 1st reg 14.02.1980 unlicensed
CVV 30X red 1st reg 21.10.1981 unlicensed
B355 KPB green 1st reg 01.09.1984 unlicensed
B44 OJK No trace dvla
C957 BKM red 1st reg 02.10.1985 unlicensed
A783 GPL silver 1st reg 07.06.1984 unlicensed
LTP 197Y white 1st reg 14.01.1983 Elford unlicensed
Got \'em all....Smug, Smug.......:rollin Auction Records \'eh? They\'re really handy.
The Green S3 on the list KPB is almost certainly a survivor as it was sold last in 2009 and carries an Export marker on DVLA. Apart from that one, and the top car on the list (SORN) I think the rest may possibly be gonners .....or maybe barn finds in a year or two?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 21, 2010, 12:35:16 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;680662a series 2 had to come up a day after i pick up a series 3 damn my luck!
Done Deal then Mick? Picked it up OK?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 21, 2010, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: CHC;679233Does anybody know where I can purchase an Owners Handbook either paperback or electronic edition? Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 21, 2010, 01:07:43 PM
Quote from: David Nock;680714I think it will be touch and go for poor EPH. I\'ll put him in scrap pile for the moment me\'thinks.
Spare 13B engine with him might pull the vulture crew??? A tasty morsel?
David the seller has said.. \'you\'ll be lucky to find one better than this\', he must mean for the scrapper then..................:Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 21, 2010, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;680726David the seller has said.. \'you\'ll be lucky to find one better than this\', he must mean for the scrapper then..................:Giggle
Yeh, but we know stuff don\'t we, like unless the storage is ideal, the top will stay smart but the underside will really go badly....He says he\'s waxoiled before storing though.....Is it mildew on the gear lever surround? I hope not. Bad Sign if it is.
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Post by: Ian65 on March 21, 2010, 07:11:27 PM
Quote from: David Nock;680795Yeh, but we know stuff don\'t we, like unless the storage is ideal, the top will stay smart but the underside will really go badly....He says he\'s waxoiled before storing though.....Is it mildew on the gear lever surround? I hope not. Bad Sign if it is.
I think the sellers got a rose tinted view of this car... I wonder what his reserve is? The interior looks mildew covered which means damp which means rot, dodgy electrics, bad trim / seats / carpets... and is that underseal on the heatshields & tank? I wouldn\'t want it for free.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 21, 2010, 10:49:47 PM
Quote from: Ian65;6765271984 series 3 for sale in Royston, Herts...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on March 25, 2010, 05:24:55 PM
Quote from: gnj37;674860Thanks to david for checking car out. bought it today cheque in post great that forum members keep a eye out for beginners like myself. Not so worried about motor as i would like to see it down will post some photos when i get it home .
Car home today body wise perfect no welding required at all have to figure out the 4 barrel carburettor as there is a slap of vacuum pipes some blocked some not will get some photos as soon as possible
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Post by: Ian65 on March 25, 2010, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: gnj37;681964Car home today body wise perfect no welding required at all have to figure out the 4 barrel carburettor as there is a slap of vacuum pipes some blocked some not will get some photos as soon as possible
Nice one.... get some pictures up!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on March 25, 2010, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: Ian65;681985Nice one.... get some pictures up!
does this type of carburettor need all pipes wires etc to start as there is a lot of pipes on top of the engine conected to no thing ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 25, 2010, 09:22:02 PM
If you look at a sticky thread above this one you will see "workshop manuals" , from there you can download a manual for the carb.
Good luck Dibs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 26, 2010, 11:10:06 AM
Nice one Gary. Yes the guides and manuals out there should give the pipe and wire connections. Also if you master the art of uploading pics you can show us what\'s there and what\'s not there. The 13B with a Nikki should be same pipes and connections as our 12A engines. Anyone any experience of this?? I can see the jetting being a bit out for the bigger capacity but it should be possible to start and run if the right connections are linked up?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 26, 2010, 07:10:53 PM
Get you with your avatar!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on March 27, 2010, 05:08:48 PM
Quote from: David Nock;682199Nice one Gary. Yes the guides and manuals out there should give the pipe and wire connections. Also if you master the art of uploading pics you can show us what\'s there and what\'s not there. The 13B with a Nikki should be same pipes and connections as our 12A engines. Anyone any experience of this?? I can see the jetting being a bit out for the bigger capacity but it should be possible to start and run if the right connections are linked up?
Got car running today loads of small things to bypass and solve she runs but like a bag of bottles I\'m not sure about the distributor cap leads on what goes were can\'t see any thing in manual also the carburettor leaking all over the place that\'s not a problem going to get down draft weber tomorrow and that will put that to bed have a problem with fuel tank as the fuel pump was not working so we retro fitted red top fuel pump in the engine bay but could get no fuel to flow through pipe is there some sort of device that is stuffed in the tank like a valve if i can get this sorted next will be the wiring cheers gary
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Post by: A7RXY on March 27, 2010, 05:22:09 PM
There is a fuel fitter which could be blocked, it is located on the underside of the car infront of the fuel tank.
Good luck Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on March 27, 2010, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;682596There is a fuel fitter which could be blocked, it is located on the underside of the car in front of the fuel tank.
Good luck Dibs
I think its all right i will put it on lift and have a better look Now has any body have a Ida weber inlet manifold to suit 13b ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 28, 2010, 07:40:01 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;682395Get you with your avatar!
Bloodx hell Captain! Wozzat you got, Rising Sun or a Supanova?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 28, 2010, 07:56:25 PM
Quote from: gnj37;682595Got car running today loads of small things to bypass and solve she runs but like a bag of bottles I\'m not sure about the distributor cap leads on what goes were can\'t see any thing in manual also the carburettor leaking all over the place that\'s not a problem going to get down draft weber tomorrow and that will put that to bed have a problem with fuel tank as the fuel pump was not working so we retro fitted red top fuel pump in the engine bay but could get no fuel to flow through pipe is there some sort of device that is stuffed in the tank like a valve if i can get this sorted next will be the wiring cheers gary
FOR THE 12A Engine, and I guess 13B will be same: Distributor Cap is marked: \'T\' goes to Trailing Coil, which is the one nearest to the front of the car. \'L\' goes to Leading Coil, which is the one nearest to the passenger compartment of the car. Rotors are \'1\' and \'2\', \'1\' being the front one \'2\' being the back one (like a piston engine\'s cylinders). Trailing Plugs are the top ones, Leading plugs at the bottom. So leads go .......\'T\' and \'L\' to the coils, .......\'T1\' and \'T2\' to the top plugs, Rotors 1 and 2 respectively, ...... \'L1\' and \'L2\' to the bottom plugs, Rotors 1 and 2 respectively. Mustn\'t get \'em mixed up, ever.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 28, 2010, 08:00:47 PM
Just in case anyone was in any doubt whether I had a sig or not:Giggle
Forgot to commend you on how good Gus looked the other day too.:Thumbsup!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 28, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
You did thanks Captain.....you were obviously distracted planning your massive supernova.
I checked all positive comments carefully and blackmarked anyone whose praise was absent......no not really.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on March 29, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: David Nock;682860FOR THE 12A Engine, and I guess 13B will be same: Distributor Cap is marked: \'T\' goes to Trailing Coil, which is the one nearest to the front of the car. \'L\' goes to Leading Coil, which is the one nearest to the passenger compartment of the car. Rotors are \'1\' and \'2\', \'1\' being the front one \'2\' being the back one (like a piston engine\'s cylinders). Trailing Plugs are the top ones, Leading plugs at the bottom. So leads go .......\'T\' and \'L\' to the coils, .......\'T1\' and \'T2\' to the top plugs, Rotors 1 and 2 respectively, ...... \'L1\' and \'L2\' to the bottom plugs, Rotors 1 and 2 respectively. Mustn\'t get \'em mixed up, ever.
good man that helped starts 1st turn of key now dont know if this any indication of engine health or not i have a weber but no inlet manifold has any one got one sitting gathering dust ?
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Post by: mpk490p on March 29, 2010, 03:12:21 PM
what 13b is it? 4port or 6port
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on March 29, 2010, 05:39:47 PM
Quote from: mpk490p;683035what 13b is it? 4port or 6port
I\'m not sure how can u tell ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mpk490p on March 29, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
is it a later engine from a gen 2? if you have the inlet manifold off count the holes this may help http://www.tweakit.net/shop/index.php?cPath=326_27_181&sort=2a&page=2
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 30, 2010, 01:17:16 PM
not a new one but up for sale on Pistonheads.... £2500
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 30, 2010, 03:24:58 PM
Quote from: Ian65;683278not a new one but up for sale on Pistonheads.... £2500
I remember this being up for sale last year and thought then it looked a lovely car. I\'m not in the market for a 1st gen, but if I was.... I\'m sure it was a lot more expensive last year as well.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 30, 2010, 05:12:23 PM
Yes Ian, this car would be on my shortlist as well. I think it\'s exactly as it\'s described, a 60,000 miler and it\'s down from £3000 last year. I think it was on sale for more than that before then but Paul, the seller, has clearly had no takers. The only problem is the location - Aberdeen, but if I were buying I\'d make the trip with reasonable hopes of a damn good bargain.
PS I have Paul\'s contact details and permission to give them out if anyone who\'s really interested in the car wants them.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on March 30, 2010, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: mpk490p;683073is it a later engine from a gen 2? if you have the inlet manifold off count the holes this may help http://www.tweakit.net/shop/index.php?cPath=326_27_181&sort=2a&page=2
Has anyone ever mounted different carb to the Nikki manifold using a adapter plate of some sort ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on March 30, 2010, 08:40:35 PM
That\'s a very well looked after fb,even bottom of cills have no dirt on them!
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Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 04:16:47 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 04:44:19 PM
That\'s a very nice car,body/wheels/engine all seem good,well loooked after & i think a g8 price for someone. Love white Fb\'s in good nick,they just look crisp & clean. Magnesium wheels on Fb\'s,are they? After the recent influx of 1st gens from Jersey,this ones more accessible for peeps on the mainland. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 04:48:26 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;682862Just in case anyone was in any doubt whether I had a sig or not:Giggle
Forgot to commend you on how good Gus looked the other day too.:Thumbsup!
Your sig,u can\'t miss it,it hurts my eyes,i need shades on to look at it,my retinas have been burnt out!lol:spank ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: syebba;684212That\'s a very nice car,body/wheels/engine all seem good,well loooked after & i think a g8 price for someone. Love white Fb\'s in good nick,they just look crisp & clean. ta stu..
I agree with that Stu, white 1st gens in nice condition look great. On series 3\'s as well, the burgundy interiors, although of their time, somehow just suit the cars. It\'s hard to imagine white or silver series 3\'s with any other colour. This car looks spot on for the money.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;682862Just in case anyone was in any doubt whether I had a sig or not:Giggle
Everytime I see it it reminds me of the zeros screaming down battleship alley in Pearl Harbour film!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 03, 2010, 05:30:29 PM
It was on sale middle of last year still in Nottinghamshire. Before that I\'ve a ??note saying \'Suffolk 2007\'? I see the engine\'s been swopped by Carl (Steve?) for a fresher 21,000 mile unit as well. That adds to the appeal I reckon.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 03, 2010, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: Ian65;684234Everytime I see it it reminds me of the zeros screaming down battleship alley in Pearl Harbour film!
That\'s why I said Supernova, getting away to something in space, bearing in mind where the Mazda factory is.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 03, 2010, 05:34:24 PM
Quote from: syebba;684212That\'s a very nice car,body/wheels/engine all seem good,well loooked after & i think a g8 price for someone. Love white Fb\'s in good nick,they just look crisp & clean. Magnesium wheels on Fb\'s,are they? After the recent influx of 1st gens from Jersey,this ones more accessible for peeps on the mainland. ta stu..
Alloy? Magalloy? Don\'t know but they do seem to last and not crack or go porous.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 05:42:52 PM
i\'ve noticed not many owners,well on here anyway don\'t want to change the standard alloys for aftermarkets,the wheels must be nice looking then! What i like about s3 wheels is the highly polished outer lip & polished centre with painted inserts,more interesting than a dull grey alloy wheel. owners of Fc\'s & fd\'s always seem to ditch their standard wheels. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: David Nock;684238Alloy? Magalloy? Don\'t know but they do seem to last and not crack or go porous.
it says refurbished wheels but they don\'t look like yours or Stu\'s do they.... ?unless it\'s just the photo.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 05:46:57 PM
The reason i questioned magnesium alloy is i was told it was lighter & stronger than standard alloy wheels,i had magnesium alloys on a cobra replica & they cost a fortune![image wheels told me this] The Fb wheels are fairly robust,it,s the lacquer that goes,then the white corrosion sets in under the lacquer. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: Ian65;684244it says refurbished wheels but they don\'t look like yours or Stu\'s do they.... ?unless it\'s just the photo.
could be just the pic,but the wheels look like they\'ve been powdercoated all over,they should have a high sheen to them,like daves & mine,still thats easily sorted. ta stu
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 05:52:11 PM
Quote from: syebba;684245The Fb wheels are fairly robust,it,s the lacquer that goes,then the white corrosion sets in under the lacquer. ta stu..
That\'s right, they are. Remember the pepperpots and the RS 7 spokes that they put on the Capris? The last car I restored was a Capri 2.8 injection special and the alloys, like nearly all old Capri alloys, were as porous as hell. The tyres used to slowly deflate due to the porous alloy. You don\'t get that problem with 1st gen wheels.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 05:59:32 PM
I\'m pretty sure capri pepperpots are the same as those on the elford turbo,both made by wolfrace. Ford cheapskated on various items,porous wheels & really annoying,they could,nt even fit the same size door mirrors on mk3 capri\'s,the passenger side was smaller than the other side!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 06:10:06 PM
I think that the Elford used genuine Wolfrace and Ford used a pattern wheel. They may have used Wolfrace for the prototypes but once they went into mass production, they used a similar wheel but non genuine I think. I know that it\'s hard to get non porous Ford pepperpots these days.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on April 03, 2010, 08:05:11 PM
My first Ser 1 had Elford wheels, and they were Wolfrace
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 08:39:49 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;684290My first Ser 1 had Elford wheels, and they were Wolfrace
Did you put those on Dibs or were they on when you bought it? The series 1....... takes me back!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on April 03, 2010, 08:50:37 PM
I think I have said somewhere before, it was a ser 1 unsold by Richard Knight Cars when the ser 2 came out, so they jazzed it up with the wheels and coachline and good discount, if memory serves me right £7750, to sell it and along came me and could not resist it, that was in 81, sold it in 83 for the deposit for the house I\'m still in today.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 09:28:07 PM
Quote from: Ian65;684255I think that the Elford used genuine Wolfrace and Ford used a pattern wheel. They may have used Wolfrace for the prototypes but once they went into mass production, they used a similar wheel but non genuine I think. I know that it\'s hard to get non porous Ford pepperpots these days.
Just been googling,the capri 2.8i did use wolfrace sonic pepperpots[not copies] the same as the elford turbo. Wonder if the stud patterns the same as well? ta
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: syebba;684319Just been googling,the capri 2.8i did use wolfrace sonic pepperpots[not copies] the same as the elford turbo. Wonder if the stud patterns the same as well? ta
my 2.8i had Ford stamped sonic / pepper pots, not Wolfrace
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 03, 2010, 10:26:40 PM
i looked on retro motors,won\'t let me take a link off,but has full specs for the 2.8i capri.[my guess is ford started using wolfrace,then cheapskated & got copies done] ta stu
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 03, 2010, 10:29:28 PM
Quote from: syebba;684349i looked on retro motors,won\'t let me take a link off,but has full specs for the 2.8i capri.[my guess is ford started using wolfrace,then cheapskated & got copies done] ta stu
Yeah, I think that\'s about right. I think they made some minor variations and then just knocked out thousands themselves. Ford were always looking to cut costs and dress up cars as performance models on the cheap, why pay for Wolfrace when you can make your own cheap version? Getting back to the 1st gens, I like all 3 versions of the factory wheels, I reckon each suits its respective model really well.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 05, 2010, 05:08:57 PM
Back on ebay. Paul\'s (riber3) on here. If the previous form on this motor is anything to go by I think the reserve will be quite high.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 05, 2010, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: David Nock;684778Back on ebay. Paul\'s (riber3) on here. If the previous form on this motor is anything to go by I think the reserve will be quite high.
I think it\'s a real shame cause he\'s obviously put his so much effort and passion into this car but I can\'t see it ever making the reserve. Once you take the rotary out of a RX7, you take its soul out.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 09, 2010, 01:47:01 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 09, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
That\'s the one with the dented wing. If the write up on ebay is correct it sounds like a nice runner
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 09, 2010, 08:35:48 PM
yes, just needs a bit of tidying, could be a nice rolling resto for the right person ( if the price is right)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: kiwi-mick on April 09, 2010, 09:23:43 PM
Quote from: Ian65;686051yes, just needs a bit of tidying, could be a nice rolling resto for the right person ( if the price is right)
i\'m going to bite as i think the silver series 3 is going to be a scrapper to be honest too many holes fallin in here and there. is there anyone up that way guys who could look see what the chassis is like for me??
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on April 09, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
Does that mean the exhaust off silver one would be for sale then? Sans headers as I got some I still got to pick up so headers back would be great.
I started the C reg up after taking the rotten backbox off and it was sooo loud but sounded great :)
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Post by: kiwi-mick on April 10, 2010, 12:47:10 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;686077Does that mean the exhaust off silver one would be for sale then? Sans headers as I got some I still got to pick up so headers back would be great. :)
not sure yet mate but will put it up on here if i don\'t need it, am still looking to source new pipe to make up a replacement system as i believe what people are charging for new systems is extravagant(excuse my spelling)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 10, 2010, 07:42:02 AM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;686056i\'m going to bite as i think the silver series 3 is going to be a scrapper to be honest too many holes fallin in here and there. is there anyone up that way guys who could look see what the chassis is like for me??
it sold on a buy it now on ebay last November for £595. Here are some links from when it was for sale back then...
as David says, seemed mechanically good but bodywork tatty.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 10, 2010, 11:16:42 AM
i\'ve said it before & i\'ll say it again.
Most important areas on 1st gens are body & chassis,anything mechanical can be fixed at reasonable cost considering the amount of scrappers around. Ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 10, 2010, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;686077Does that mean the exhaust off silver one would be for sale then? Sans headers as I got some I still got to pick up so headers back would be great.
I started the C reg up after taking the rotten backbox off and it was sooo loud but sounded great :)
Howling sounds as the jackals sit round in a circle and the vultures fly overhead.:eek:
Dooooo let me know if you break it Mick so\'s I can shift it to scrappers pile. I guess I\'m just the same.:2Rolleyes
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Post by: syebba on April 10, 2010, 11:33:52 AM
I\'ve noticed a trend with 1st gens,they go on fleabay in the spring,then nothing,hardly any more up 4 sale till next spring! Always come with words,easy fixer upper,g8 project for summer,
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 10, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
Quote from: David Nock;686179Howling sounds as the jackals sit round in a circle and the vultures fly overhead.:eek:
Dooooo let me know if you break it Mick so\'s I can shift it to scrappers pile. I guess I\'m just the same.:2Rolleyes
Hehe lots of scavengers on here looking for their next tasty morsel. No prey can escape,circling vultures can spot a rex in trouble from miles away,what they miss the hyena\'s sniff out!:mmmm ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on April 10, 2010, 11:53:57 AM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;686056i\'m going to bite as i think the silver series 3 is going to be a scrapper to be honest too many holes fallin in here and there. is there anyone up that way guys who could look see what the chassis is like for me??
Have a good look at the rust bubbles on the roof, ebay pic, there can be some real rust problems from the sunroof gutters. Good luck
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Post by: kiwi-mick on April 10, 2010, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;686185Have a good look at the rust bubbles on the roof, ebay pic, there can be some real rust problems from the sunroof gutters. Good luck
yea did see those. was hoping it was just there thou, i\'ve got the silver up on ramps now wifes in first stages of labour going to get my screw driver to check for just how bad the underside rust is. there\'s more than enough in other places, need more time in the day if only i could pause time and pinch 3 hours a day to work on the cars... was actually hoping for a series 2 with a decent chassis but that what it seems to be only hope.. think i\'ll have to settle for a series 3 and change the diff and front wheel stud pattern back to 4 x 110 got me a brand spanking new set of chrome modulars for my project ... not many modgies in the uk i bet however the brigdestone SF330\'s are proving very difficult to source as they stoped making em a couple or three years back might have to buy a car in nz to get the tryes i want seen one with what i want but the car is £2500 and thats a bit steep for 4 tryes especially with import duty and vat
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mooragerx7 on April 11, 2010, 05:41:19 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;686185Have a good look at the rust bubbles on the roof, ebay pic, there can be some real rust problems from the sunroof gutters. Good luck
yea i know a bout that mine had gone there and it had already been done once before a nice mix of paper and bog and fiberglass yum
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on April 11, 2010, 01:35:15 PM
Has the list of running/SORN cars been updated to take into account the fact that I have both C970 DKP and A475 NEG?
Im sorry to add that A475 NEG will soon be no longer with us, as it will be heading the the great rotor heaven that some of us call NZ. She was bought to order for my brother in law who was looking for an unmolested original which are pretty scarce in those parts...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 11, 2010, 05:56:50 PM
Ah....Good, thanks for that, I had no idea where NEG had gone. I tried to find out but couldn\'t. Pity it\'s going but I\'m sure it\'ll be happy there :WaveBye .......Let me know when it\'s on the Boat would you so I can move it to the \'exported overseas\' section. (Ireland, CI, IoM etc I class as British Isles which is what my Register is based on).
You know the other one, don\'t you mean C969 not C970?
Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on April 11, 2010, 06:24:47 PM
Ah yes, I do - oops. There is another on here with that reg - brothers I guess!
Mine was registered 30/10/85 and I think the other one was a week or so later? Also \'Tender Blue\' as well?
I know there are not a whole lot left on the roads now, but what were the UK sales figures from new? How many have been lost and how many are we losing each year? That would be very interesting to find out.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 12, 2010, 11:50:07 AM
There were a band of brothers together....C966, C967, C968, C969, C970...... According to DVLA all were registered together on the same day. All were Blue. We worked out on here that the \'KP\' in the Reg, being Maidstone District in Kent would have been probably issued to the Mazda Company themselves, \'cos they were close by.
Sadly only the last 2 cars seem to be still around.
I\'ve always thought that total UK sales of the 1st Gen were around the 7000 mark. It may be that there\'s another load out there in garages and barns.....So at a very wild guess 300 total still left. We know of 200 or so complete cars - and the wastage rate from that is perhaps 10/15 a year.....In fact I\'ve another 2 to shift to scrappers in the next week or 2 I think.....kiwi-mick\'s Silver S3 and a Blue S2 in Bolton for which I\'ve never had the Reg, but I\'m sure now is gone.
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Post by: RamoNZ on April 12, 2010, 12:55:41 PM
Interesting - 5 registered on the same day and in the same colour? It must have been some kind of publicity stunt? The \'C\' mark was available from 1st september so it cannot have been a reg thing.
The selling dealer on mine is Gatwick Mazda which was only 10 miles from my house now.
No mention of Kent in the books (I got them with the car) from what I remember although I will check.
I wonder how many will be left in 2020??
Can you send me the list? I would love to see it - how many there are based on Reg - there cannot be too many C\'s left can there? How did you get a K? ramon@paxton.co.uk (ramon@paxton.co.uk)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 12, 2010, 06:43:11 PM
No, it seems to be common to find \'clusters\' of Mazda cars on the Maidstone District Registration letters.....So there\'s clusters of \'CKL\'s registered together, and I broke a \'KKW\' which is next to a couple of others. Also the 5 or 6 early Press launch Series 1 cars all seemed to be \'FKJ\'s. It\'s the \'KP\', KL\', \'KW\', \'KJ\' suffixes which say Maidstone Office/Mazda\'s own Car in the 1980\'s.
2020??? A few will still be going, mine for one, done 53,000 and theres others with lower miles.
The location list has been sent by email.....There are no Reg Nos on there though but I can confirm 17 \'C\'s roadgoing, 29 on SORN. Then there are a couple of \'D\'s which are roadgoing plus my \'K\'. That came about because a London Dealer took the car from the boat in Spring 1986 but didn\'t register it. It was finally registered in Dec 1992 because of the Cat Laws coming in (would have stopped it going on road after 1993) and we bought it from him in 1993.
I\'m trying to stay on the right side of the privacy laws with the information I put outwards from my Register. Therefore whilst I might wheedle and cajole registration numbers out of people by PM or ebay message, if it\'s not already been posted for example on ebay or on here, then I don\'t think I have the right to put it back out into circulation, same with the exact location, I only give that by a general geographic area. Trouble is the Registrations are essential to make sure tracking of cars and their actual numbers (quantity) is accurate. I hope you can see why I do this. I know a complete listing of all known cars with their numbers would be very interesting indeed but I don\'t want to risk a load of complaints.
Cheers Dave
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Post by: Ian65 on April 12, 2010, 09:31:15 PM
Quote from: David Nock;686793No, it seems to be common to find \'clusters\' of Mazda cars on the Maidstone District Registration letters.....So there\'s clusters of \'CKL\'s registered together, and I broke a \'KKW\' which is next to a couple of others. Also the 5 or 6 early Press launch Series 1 cars all seemed to be \'FKJ\'s. It\'s the \'KP\', KL\', \'KW\', \'KJ\' suffixes which say Maidstone Office/Mazda\'s own Car in the 1980\'s.
2020??? A few will still be going, mine for one, done 53,000 and theres others with lower miles.
The location list has been sent by email.....There are no Reg Nos on there though but I can confirm 17 \'C\'s roadgoing, 29 on SORN. Then there are a couple of \'D\'s which are roadgoing plus my \'K\'. That came about because a London Dealer took the car from the boat in Spring 1986 but didn\'t register it. It was finally registered in Dec 1992 because of the Cat Laws coming in (would have stopped it going on road after 1993) and we bought it from him in 1993.
I\'m trying to stay on the right side of the privacy laws with the information I put outwards from my Register. Therefore whilst I might wheedle and cajole registration numbers out of people by PM or ebay message, if it\'s not already been posted for example on ebay or on here, then I don\'t think I have the right to put it back out into circulation, same with the exact location, I only give that by a general geographic area. Trouble is the Registrations are essential to make sure tracking of cars and their actual numbers (quantity) is accurate. I hope you can see why I do this. I know a complete listing of all known cars with their numbers would be very interesting indeed but I don\'t want to risk a load of complaints.
Cheers Dave
I\'ve got to say David, that I wouldn\'t have any objection to my registration being published on this list. I wouldn\'t want my name, address , location or anything to identify me or the cars exact location but if it said \' C707 ULW Red, Staffordshire\', that wouldn\'t worry me at all and would make your database very interesting reading. I wonder how many people would look at it and recognise a registration from years ago, owned by themselves or someone they knew. I can totally appreciate your caution though, some people love to moan about anything, even when there\'s nothing to moan about!
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Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 13, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
Yeh, It\'s a problem I\'d love to solve by just publishing the Reg Nos....
But, suppose someone who I realised had bought a particular car, wanted to blank the Reg on Photo\'s.(Plenty similar to that on the list).
Then I go and put it up on here. He googles or something and finds it, whats he going to say? "Take it of that list fella"? Once on the net it\'s irreversible; I can\'t retract it.
Plus these search engine bots or whatever they are find anything.
I\'ve put my own car up several times recently with it\'s Reg showing \'cos I can\'t very well ask for info one way only.
I\'ve concluded that if anyone asks about a particular car and it\'s scrapped or probably scrapped I can say so (because as you know Ian, it\'s more or less clear from DVLA public access about that info). If on the other hand it still lived somewhere then I would say so and then take steps, if I could, to get the owners consent to say roughly where it was and who had it.
As said previously, If a car\'s been in print on here or ebay recently then that\'s public info anyway.
I love this whole business of car histories/ Reg numbers to trace \'em and so on, but not everyone feels the same.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on April 14, 2010, 01:17:33 PM
I got the list - I wasnt really after the reg numbers, more the letters as a matter of interest, however as it is, it is very interesting reading! Nice to know there are some cars local to me, although none in West Sussex which makes me feel a bit special..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on April 15, 2010, 08:43:10 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;687277I got the list - I wasnt really after the reg numbers, more the letters as a matter of interest, however as it is, it is very interesting reading! Nice to know there are some cars local to me, although none in West Sussex which makes me feel a bit special..
Any more in East Sussex?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 15, 2010, 05:39:11 PM
Pop us an email on dgnock@btopenworld.com and I\'ll send you the list.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 15, 2010, 05:43:29 PM
Quote from: Ian65;638963Very nice 1 owner low milage series 2 on Ebay. Located in London. Seller asking £2000
Relisted on ebay £1995 \'Buy it Now\', Leatherhead. Not as shiney this time.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 15, 2010, 06:24:54 PM
Quote from: David Nock;687563Relisted on ebay £1995 \'Buy it Now\', Leatherhead. Not as shiney this time.
Yes, not as nicely presented this time..... a bit of rot showing up now too. Still a nice car, especially for a series 2 but 2 grand?? I\'d rather go another 500 quid and buy the silver one in Aberdeen. Now that is a really nice car...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 16, 2010, 07:11:01 AM
Quote from: Ian65;687568Yes, not as nicely presented this time..... a bit of rot showing up now too. Still a nice car, especially for a series 2 but 2 grand?? I\'d rather go another 500 quid and buy the silver one in Aberdeen. Now that is a really nice car...
100% agree Ian. The Silver Aberdeen car must be in the top 2 presently for sale....(can\'t forget Dave C\'s Opal Green one). But back to Aberdeen......if the car is what it seems to be it\'s a bargain. It has to be worth £3000 if it is a minter.
Look at the posting time guys.....Haven\'t been up this early for 5 years. Our new lovely straggie cat is off to the vets for his nicknacks off and he can\'t have his breakkie. He\'s shut in and mad and VERY hungry. He will be giving it some tonk with the meows later on today.
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Post by: A7RXY on April 16, 2010, 09:39:19 AM
Ouch ........................
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Post by: Ian65 on April 16, 2010, 12:50:22 PM
Quote from: David Nock;687656Our new lovely straggie cat is off to the vets for his nicknacks off and he can\'t have his breakkie. He\'s shut in and mad and VERY hungry. He will be giving it some tonk with the meows later on today.
don\'t know about mad, he\'ll be bloody livid when he wakes up!
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 16, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
I feel his pain.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on April 17, 2010, 07:29:20 AM
Quote from: David Nock;687656Our new lovely straggie cat is off to the vets for his nicknacks off and he can\'t have his breakkie. He\'s shut in and mad and VERY hungry. He will be giving it some tonk with the meows later on today.
I might be off for similar op now, tuesday we finally had a new addition to the family a little girl so got two now. wonder how much it\'ll hurt....LOL
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Post by: Ian65 on April 17, 2010, 08:19:01 AM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;687859I might be off for similar op now, tuesday we finally had a new addition to the family a little girl so got two now. wonder how much it\'ll hurt....LOL
Many congratulations Mick! I\'ve got 2 girls, they\'re great fun! Also, they don\'t raid your garage and nick your spanners and tools like lads do. You\'re right.... she\'ll be carting you off to the vets now!
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 17, 2010, 08:55:12 AM
You\'ll be fine mate it\'s not bad-my good lady sent me to the vets after our fourth.:2eek
Congrats on the birth anyway:guinness
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Post by: A7RXY on April 17, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
Congrats Mick and your good lady.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 17, 2010, 10:48:46 AM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;687859I might be off for similar op now, tuesday we finally had a new addition to the family a little girl so got two now. wonder how much it\'ll hurt....LOL
Many Congratulations Mick. Our \'Charlie\' is up and walking (sort of) today. Soon he\'ll be back on the Razz.....that\'s when he\'ll find out he\'s been short changed by the men in white coats. :3Confused \'Where have THEY gone he\'ll wonder- \'anyone found two black golf balls\'?? :3Confused
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 17, 2010, 10:57:06 AM
Quote from: Ian65;687863I\'ve got 2 girls, they\'re great fun! Also, they don\'t raid your garage and nick your spanners and tools like lads do.
They\'re more subtle than that, I\'ve 2 girls as well. They get their own houses not far away and it\'s \'Dad will YOU bring YOUR spanners round to do a LITTLE JOB please\' That\'s where \'Little Job\' means about 3 days work.
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Post by: daverey on April 17, 2010, 09:44:25 PM
Congratulations to you both, I found the worst of the op was the itch when the hair grew back.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 17, 2010, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: daverey;687967Congratulations to you both, I found the worst of the op was the itch when the hair grew back.
I think the worse bit is wanting to work on the RX7 but not being able to get off the sofa!
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Post by: kiwi-mick on April 17, 2010, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: Ian65;687863Many congratulations Mick! I\'ve got 2 girls, they\'re great fun! Also, they don\'t raid your garage and nick your spanners and tools like lads do. You\'re right.... she\'ll be carting you off to the vets now!
sorry all when i said i have two i didn\'t explain myself very well oldest is boy new addition is a girl cheers for all the well wishes mick
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Post by: myatt1972 on April 17, 2010, 10:16:54 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;687859I might be off for similar op now, tuesday we finally had a new addition to the family a little girl so got two now. wonder how much it\'ll hurt....LOL
Congratulations mick, hope you are all doing well. Im glad its a girl, you better get thinking of names. Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 17, 2010, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;687982sorry all when i said i have two i didn\'t explain myself very well oldest is boy new addition is a girl cheers for all the well wishes mick
in that case, lock your tools away!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: kiwi-mick on April 21, 2010, 10:18:43 PM
new series 2 on pistonheads any info on this one dave?? looks straight enough but unsure about one thing did they ever colour code the spray arms on the front bumper? think this may have had a recent respray and if it has what is it covering??
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on April 21, 2010, 11:27:05 PM
Blimey they appear to have achieved the \'every panel a different colour\' look with panache!
By the looks of the missing bump strip on the front wing its definately had paint at some point.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2010, 10:48:25 AM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;688862new series 2 on pistonheads any info on this one dave?? looks straight enough but unsure about one thing did they ever colour code the spray arms on the front bumper? think this may have had a recent respray and if it has what is it covering??
No, nothing on it Mick...I\'ve entered it as a runner but in the unknowns (no Reg No. Category). The headlamp washers were always Black I think....A bit hard to get off, that suggests a respray.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 22, 2010, 10:57:48 AM
Quote from: David Nock;688932The headlamp washers were always Black I think....A bit hard to get off, that suggests a respray.
and not a very good one at that!
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Post by: kiwi-mick on April 22, 2010, 11:14:04 AM
Quote from: Ian65;688934and not a very good one at that!
i know guys but hey it\'s a series 2 and it has black interior.....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2010, 11:22:19 AM
If you get talking to the guy, ask him for the Reg Mick. Explain it\'s for \'The Register Man\', some loony old geezer on MRC.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: kiwi-mick on April 22, 2010, 11:44:45 AM
Quote from: David Nock;688940If you get talking to the guy, ask him for the Reg Mick. Explain it\'s for \'The Register Man\', some loony old geezer on MRC.
sorry mate he\'s not near the car and i have a feeling he\'s got a few there. but don\'t worry i\'ll give you any details you want in two weeks when i buy it!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 24, 2010, 11:20:29 AM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on April 24, 2010, 07:39:32 PM
Yes it is my car, that was the guy that took it to the so called specialist to sort out the carb, and I think you all know the outcome of that.............. yes I ended up doing it myself, but I will be driving it to Brooklands tomorrow..............nah nah.........
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 24, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
the aerial threw me.... have you changed it for a rubber one?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on April 24, 2010, 08:28:15 PM
Yes I tried to fix the electric one as it was not fully going down, and yes it snapped, so I fitted the rubber one last week. Now trying to fix the old one as I realy don\'t like the rubber one. btw you have got some eyes to spot that one..........
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Post by: Ian65 on April 24, 2010, 09:22:52 PM
what big eyes I do have! I see they were your old wheelnuts as well!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on April 24, 2010, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;689474btw you have got some eyes to spot that one..........
I think the saying is "Eyes like a sh*thouse rat".
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 25, 2010, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;689474Yes I tried to fix the electric one as it was not fully going down, and yes it snapped, so I fitted the rubber one last week. Now trying to fix the old one as I realy don\'t like the rubber one. btw you have got some eyes to spot that one..........
Me too; immediately saw that Dibs was a mean ol\' git who wouldn\'t shell out £180 or so for a proper new Mazda aerial.....tightwad...
Best get a \'front corner Avatar\' now Dibs......Only electric men can show their backsides on here.
Hmmm ......is Captain Bizz flaunting or taunting us with his aerial I wonder?
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Post by: mpk490p on April 25, 2010, 01:00:17 PM
i ditched mine and went for a beesting on the roof :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mooragerx7 on April 25, 2010, 06:33:32 PM
i ditched mine for a piece of steel although i do hav a bee sting to go on
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 25, 2010, 07:37:50 PM
Right on top of youse two Ian and Keith....3 miles from Leek.......Electric Gates as well .....Poshies live here. Stone Lions a bit worrying, might be real ones inside.
No idea of Reg though short of phoning. Also the butler may be banned from giving it out.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 27, 2010, 06:33:42 PM
Quote from: David Nock;690136Right on top of youse two Ian and Keith....3 miles from Leek.......Electric Gates as well .....Poshies live here. Stone Lions a bit worrying, might be real ones inside.
No idea of Reg though short of phoning. Also the butler may be banned from giving it out.
probably only parked it there for the photo before he gets shooed away!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on April 27, 2010, 08:26:28 PM
If it lives with poshies,then maybe the car is a good un,certainly looks very clean,but you know how good most cars look in pics! ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 29, 2010, 02:41:47 PM
Missed \'em Sold for £25 with post.....that\'s the first 1st Gen Series 3 Mazda Workshop Manual I\'ve ever seen. Like most people I suspect, I work on the S3 from S1 books with S2 addendums.
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on May 02, 2010, 01:27:05 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on May 02, 2010, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: David Nock;691025Missed \'em Sold for £25 with post.....that\'s the first 1st Gen Series 3 Mazda Workshop Manual I\'ve ever seen. Like most people I suspect, I work on the S3 from S1 books with S2 addendums.
First one ive seen to, thats why I got it :)
Thanks for the heads up Dave:Thumbsup! Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on May 02, 2010, 11:51:03 PM
Quote from: David Nock;691025Missed \'em Sold for £25 with post.....that\'s the first 1st Gen Series 3 Mazda Workshop Manual I\'ve ever seen. Like most people I suspect, I work on the S3 from S1 books with S2 addendums.
Dave they are still available from Mazdatrix but the cost is about $85, if you get one ask them to mark the parcel as technical literature/ manuals as this is exempt from import duty. Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 03, 2010, 11:14:32 AM
Car for sale has moved from N. London to Norfolk with Owner? Noted it like that on my Register anyway.
A well written Ad...Car sounds good and reliable. I think it needs that top plate thing front of Radiator for air flowing. A \'nowt job though.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 03, 2010, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: daverey;691176Dave they are still available from Mazdatrix but the cost is about $85, if you get one ask them to mark the parcel as technical literature/ manuals as this is exempt from import duty. Dave
Thanks Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 03, 2010, 06:38:20 PM
Quote from: daverey;690971Anyone looking for workshop manuals these would be well worth the money
it\'s got a rare old write up this car...I think that\'s one Reg that won\'t be given out to silly old sods who email in for it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 06, 2010, 03:13:20 PM
Quote from: David Nock;692012it\'s got a rare old write up this car...I think that\'s one Reg that won\'t be given out to silly old sods who email in for it.
Makes you laugh doesn\'t it? They say they wont take offers, won\'t end early, want the best possible price and then list a load of demands that a buyer will have to comply with, 2 forms of id, insurance, you can\'t do this, you must do that...
All for an old banger worth a few hundred quid. I couldn\'t be bothered.... and this is before all the other hassle you\'ll have buying seized police property.
Seems to me they are going all out to get the worst possible price.
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Post by: Ian65 on May 07, 2010, 04:24:08 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 07, 2010, 05:22:57 PM
Same car on Pistonheads mid 2009. Still in same part of London I think.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mpk490p on May 07, 2010, 05:56:14 PM
where do all these cars keep coming from!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 07, 2010, 07:10:55 PM
There\'s about 17 cars (S2\'s and S3\'s) for sale at the moment...Quite a lot.
It does seem to be the common thing that most take a bit of selling, be they good, bad or middling cars. So they appear more than once on ebay or wherever they\'re advertised.
Must be the petrol price again \'cos the coming summer should mean they would otherwise sell?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on May 08, 2010, 05:21:30 PM
a-ha, the mystery car! been on for ages but the reg was elusive
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on May 08, 2010, 05:55:48 PM
Thats what happens on cold Saturdays, you look out adds for something to do .............has anyone enquired about the car ?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 09, 2010, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;692499Thats what happens on cold Saturdays, you look out adds for something to do .............has anyone enquired about the car ?
Mais naturellement mon brave....(that means \'of course ducky\' in Francais).
I sent an e mail telling \'em they could \'post on here for free; oh and by the way\', grovel, grovel, \'what\'s the Reg please\'?
Nothing, Ziltch big fat Zero.
So I gid it up. I would really like that Reg No. though.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 09, 2010, 12:43:27 PM
we need someone in Gt Yarmouth to do a driveby.... to note the reg number that is, not shoot the geezer!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on May 09, 2010, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: David Nock;692321There\'s about 17 cars (S2\'s and S3\'s) for sale at the moment...Quite a lot.
It does seem to be the common thing that most take a bit of selling, be they good, bad or middling cars. So they appear more than once on ebay or wherever they\'re advertised.
Must be the petrol price again \'cos the coming summer should mean they would otherwise sell?
Don\'t I know it, having hell trying to sell my FC at the moment, just want it rid of now, although, have seen this...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on May 09, 2010, 04:36:56 PM
Mark will be happy, as he offered it on here for £500.............well done Mark. I have seen this car and at even that price I think it is a very good buy.
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Post by: Ian65 on May 09, 2010, 05:01:32 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;692674Mark will be happy, as he offered it on here for £500.............well done Mark. I have seen this car and at even that price I think it is a very good buy.
yeah, it had a run in the last few minutes
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 09, 2010, 06:01:53 PM
Good for you Mark....A good car for someone I think.
Let me know who it\'s gone to and where it\'s ended up if you can.
dgnock at btopenworld dot com... Cheers Dave.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 09, 2010, 06:02:53 PM
Quote from: Ian65;689709now on Ebay.... complete with glass roof! £650
And I hear this has found a new owner, glass roof and all.
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Post by: myatt1972 on May 09, 2010, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: David Nock;692686And I hear this has found a new owner, glass roof and all.
I thought you got your mits on the roof david, did it go with the car?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 10, 2010, 12:36:09 PM
Yeh, fraid so, Jon\'s customer apparently wouldn\'t play ball unless the glass roof was on the car.
No matter, I\'ll keep looking. Only I\'m only about an hour away from Lincoln so it was easily collectable, unlike most of the ebay roofs, usually down in Surrey or Sussex.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 10, 2010, 05:57:23 PM
Quote from: Ian65;678718B147 WNM 1984 series 3 for sale on Autotrader, long mot
Hmmmmm,all that underseal on cills & valence makes me suspicious.:rolleyes:
it could be like mine, all welded up, to a very high standard and then painted... ;)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 11, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
And the wheels/tyres of the Green one look the business. Worth some money on their own I would think...plus the old wheels are with it as well......Hmm......
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 13, 2010, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: Ian65;673395For sale on Exile.... TCV 63Y, white series 2, taxed & test and a set of polished Elford sonics included for £400 ono
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: THE MAD KIWI on May 13, 2010, 09:26:28 PM
just to let you guys know mine has been sold to oliver (the son of jimmys mazda) hes picking it up on the weekend
id just like to say thanks guys and ill see you all some time in the future
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 14, 2010, 12:06:38 PM
Quote from: David Nock;692685Good for you Mark....A good car for someone I think.
Let me know who it\'s gone to and where it\'s ended up if you can.
Cheers Dave.
Thanks Mark, car\'s staying in Norfolk then....
Good luck mate and all the best.
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Post by: RamoNZ on May 14, 2010, 06:34:52 PM
I just picked up May 2005 copy of Classic cars with a feature on RX7s with MAZ1986 in the pictures.
In the classifieds there is a Metallic Blue S2 NBZ 7332 for sale £3950 out of W.Yorks - is this still around I wonder?
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Post by: Ian65 on May 14, 2010, 08:25:01 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;693565I just picked up May 2005 copy of Classic cars with a feature on RX7s with MAZ1986 in the pictures.
In the classifieds there is a Metallic Blue S2 NBZ 7332 for sale £3950 out of W.Yorks - is this still around I wonder?
It\'s unlicensed since 01.11 2005 so it\'s either standing somewhere or it\'s been scrapped. Not on the road in any case
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Post by: RamoNZ on May 14, 2010, 08:37:48 PM
Pay £4k, drive for the summer and stick in a shed for 5 years - seems a shame, but makes you think how many more minters are tucked away...
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Post by: THE MAD KIWI on May 14, 2010, 08:42:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;693507Thanks Mark, car\'s staying in Norfolk then....
Good luck mate and all the best.
yep its staying in norfolk
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 15, 2010, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;693565I just picked up May 2005 copy of Classic cars with a feature on RX7s with MAZ1986 in the pictures.
In the classifieds there is a Metallic Blue S2 NBZ 7332 for sale £3950 out of W.Yorks - is this still around I wonder?
Got a bit of info on this and since it was for sale in a garage in 2009 I guess I can forget being confidential (since they must want publicity if they\'ve still got it). It was in mgb cars in Newcastle on Tyne in July 2009. Tel 0191 499 0794, mob 07545586151.
It was selling then for £2495 with slight side damage. But it\'s spec\'d up as Cream Leather. 150,000 miles on my notes and I figured it was an import but I don\'t remember why.
As Ian it\'s been unlicensed since 2005.
If you do ring up and get anymore information, like is it still there? Sold?- to who and where?......Please let me know mate. dgnock at btopenworld dot com....Ta.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 18, 2010, 12:22:52 PM
Red Series 2 car for sale out of RX motors. On ebay Ref 220607778177. Black roof
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Post by: RamoNZ on May 18, 2010, 12:26:04 PM
Update: A475 NEG is no longer in a British territorial area.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 18, 2010, 12:55:26 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;694208Update: A475 NEG is no longer in a British territorial area.
Ah.... Gone then.....Thanks very much for that. I\'m sure it will be well received.
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Post by: Ian65 on May 18, 2010, 04:58:57 PM
Was on ebay in Suffolk last July, No Bids. Gone for breaking then.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on May 19, 2010, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: Ian65;694302HCK 527W series 1 car sold....now in Berkshire
was that the red one mate? :(
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 19, 2010, 10:54:06 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;694591was that the red one mate? :(
Yeah, someboby paid £325 sight unseen, just sent someone with a trailer to pick it up without ever seeing the car. They had to knock the rear blockwork wall of the barn down to drag the car out. You\'re better off well out of it Mick, it\'s a money pit.
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Post by: kiwi-mick on May 19, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: Ian65;694608Yeah, someboby paid £325 sight unseen, just sent someone with a trailer to pick it up without ever seeing the car. They had to knock the rear blockwork wall of the barn down to drag the car out. You\'re better off well out of it Mick, it\'s a money pit.
yea i know but the saying rare as hens teeth comes to mind..
might just settle for rebuilding the series 2 back to a decent condition and fit my bits to her and get another toy insted.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 20, 2010, 10:59:38 AM
The RX Motors Car.
Looks like a glass roof on it but too far for me.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 24, 2010, 06:45:02 AM
Quote from: David Nock;690136Right on top of youse two Ian and Keith....3 miles from Leek.......Electric Gates as well .....Poshies live here. Stone Lions a bit worrying, might be real ones inside.
No idea of Reg though short of phoning. Also the butler may be banned from giving it out.
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Post by: ossie747 on May 24, 2010, 09:59:08 AM
Wondered if you had C979 RMV listed, red in colour with only 43,000 on the clock. Saw it on show at the Medway Dockyard Steam Exhibition the other month. No doubt the owner is a member of the sight and I just haven\'t noticed it on here yet.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 24, 2010, 12:17:11 PM
Good Spotting Paul....That car was last noted at Gaydon show in 2002. It\'s got Bold RX7 flashes on the doors. Your post suggests it lives round the Kent area?
I\'ve had it as SORN for a while - glad it\'s come out to the shows. Pretty sure the owner is not on here - if you see it again perhaps ask him/her why not come on here?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 24, 2010, 12:34:24 PM
A Pic from 2002.....Nice car.
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Post by: ossie747 on May 24, 2010, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: David Nock;695433A Pic from 2002.....Nice car.
I can confirm that the car no longer has the bold RX7 flashes on it. It was in mint conition though, unfortunately the owner wasn\'t about to have a chat.
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Post by: syebba on May 25, 2010, 08:29:54 AM
on ebay £500 start price,being sold by rx motors in dorset. ta stu..
looks like might be glass roof as well Stu.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on May 26, 2010, 08:58:44 AM
aya960x on car and classic http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C152396/
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Post by: syebba on May 26, 2010, 09:07:34 AM
That looks a vgc s2,colours nice to. It\'ll probably get kiwi mick hyper ventilating!Think he was after a good s2 with no rust. ta stu..
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Post by: HaywardRotary on May 26, 2010, 10:21:54 AM
I bought the MK1 and it is actually alot better than I thought it would be,the underneath is fine with no rust. Panels need some attention and a decent paint job wouldn\'t go amiss. MK1\'s are in my opinion the best 1st gen built,they handle and drive better than the later ones with less wishy washy steering. Regards Carl
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 26, 2010, 11:20:51 AM
Thanks for that Carl. As you will be well aware there\'s a real rarity value in 1st Gen Series 1 cars.
At the moment I\'ve only got noted 2 runners (and then only running on rare occasions - I think both are rallying in Ireland), 13 cars which are SORN or Projects, including yours, and then 3 unknowns. (Sure they exist but No Reg. for them).
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 26, 2010, 11:25:57 AM
Off to the Turkish GP tomorrow.....yehh!
Keep an eye on them Reg Nos for me Please. Anyone want to make a little list of new stuff and PM me around 7th June, 1st day when I can pick up again?
Cheers Dave
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Post by: A7RXY on May 26, 2010, 11:42:30 AM
Safe journey David ................
Dibs
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Post by: Ian65 on May 26, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: David Nock;695830Off to the Turkish GP tomorrow.....yehh!
Cheers Dave
Nice one! Enjoy it.......jammy ***!
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Post by: Ian65 on May 26, 2010, 05:41:27 PM
Elford turbo series 2 for sale....
Yvette is selling her 1983 Elford Turbo apparently....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on May 26, 2010, 10:57:35 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;695945Well, here is an update - My is almost MOT\'d!! One to put on the list for the 7th of June for sure.
Just need some rear sway bar brackets to refit the sway bar and all is good. Hopefully someone here has some they could send me? Name your price!
Pm Ray whose doing the Rx3 rebuild. They usually get 1st gen parts.
Shaun
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Post by: kiwi-mick on May 27, 2010, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: syebba;695804That looks a vgc s2,colours nice to. It\'ll probably get kiwi mick hyper ventilating!Think he was after a good s2 with no rust. ta stu..
holy heck someone pass me the brown paper bag!
thou not for the condition but the price, it\'d want to be perfect for that price with less than 50K on the clock
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Post by: kiwi-mick on May 27, 2010, 10:28:11 PM
very tempting but the price seems very steep for a car off the road, not in the country and in need of work and a full test to bring back onto uk roads
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Post by: Ian65 on May 27, 2010, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;696185very tempting but the price seems very steep for a car off the road, not in the country and in need of work and a full test to bring back onto uk roads
They are collectable though Mick and it looks pretty original. I\'d be tempted myself if I hadn\'t just bought another 1st gen. I think 3 is enough to own at any one time!
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Post by: kiwi-mick on May 27, 2010, 10:42:25 PM
Quote from: Ian65;696188They are collectable though Mick and it looks pretty original. I\'d be tempted myself if I hadn\'t just bought another 1st gen. I think 3 is enough to own at any one time!
thought you were getting rid of the red one Ian?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 27, 2010, 10:43:47 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;696190thought you were getting rid of the red one Ian?
I am, I\'m going to advertise it next week
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on May 29, 2010, 07:42:28 PM
Not sure who is keeping the tally, but my S3 is officially MOTd with 12 months tax and even insurance (£350 with 6 points and a recent ban sounded good to me!)
Yay for me! Regarding the illusive brackets for the sway bar, a trip to Bnq for some flat bar, an angle grinder a drill and all sorted.
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Post by: syebba on May 29, 2010, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;696563Not sure who is keeping the tally, but my S3 is officially MOTd with 12 months tax and even insurance (£350 with 6 points and a recent ban sounded good to me!)
Yay for me! Regarding the illusive brackets for the sway bar, a trip to Bnq for some flat bar, an angle grinder a drill and all sorted.
Inspector Nock will take down ur particulars after he,s finished skiiving off at the turkish gp! well done on getting the mot.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 29, 2010, 08:16:58 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;696563Not sure who is keeping the tally, but my S3 is officially MOTd with 12 months tax and even insurance (£350 with 6 points and a recent ban sounded good to me!)
Yay for me! Regarding the illusive brackets for the sway bar, a trip to Bnq for some flat bar, an angle grinder a drill and all sorted.
Nice one! Enjoy it
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Post by: Marcrs on May 30, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
Good work RamoNZ :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 31, 2010, 05:49:31 AM
Quote from: Ian65;657234OYY 66Y back on ebay again...
different description..... same seller or has it moved on????
Back on ebay again today £750.... with a glass roof if anyone wants to try to do a deal!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on May 31, 2010, 08:26:33 PM
I see you\'ve found a connection then Dave!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: tuanage on June 01, 2010, 02:26:58 AM
Hi i\'m new here, though i\'ve been well and truly diagnosed with rotary syndrome :cool
i saw on page 13 of this thread there was some discussion about the first batch of cars brought to the UK. My father owns an rx7 rally car with the reg FKJ 419V, and we\'ve been doing much detective work over the years to try find the history of the car.
We believe it was one of the press cars along with the sequences FKJ 417, 418 etc. It was owned by Mazda Motor company for the first two years, during which time TWR prepped it for group 2 rallying. It competed on the 1980 RAC, jointly entered by Mazda and National Breakdown. It competed on several other events over the early 1980s, and upgraded to for Group B competition at some stage. Later on it was taken off the stages and began a very successful career as a racing car, wining its class in the European Championship. It then competed in the UK on the circuit scene before my father spotted it at an NEC show one year, recognised it was a rally car (strengthened + raised turrets and a few more tell tales) and brought it back to Ireland and put it back into rallying guise. It was only then we began to find out the history of the car and that it was one of the VERY early UK Rxs and rallied by Mazda.
Here on the Rally Ireland WRC event 2009 running with the Slowly Sideways group (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_mVg4W04d0F8/TARZdoiw1xI/AAAAAAAAAvw/T1ISe0Kh7Sw/s800/WRC10195001.jpg)
And at the Killarney Rally of the Lakes International 2009 (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mVg4W04d0F8/TARZehcJ40I/AAAAAAAAAv0/KxlXaFbgrWw/s800/ROL90013001.jpg)
Anyone have anything interesting to say? Ever seen it before? What about the other press cars? Any information greatly appreciated :D:D
Tuan
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Post by: Ian65 on June 01, 2010, 06:32:35 AM
Hi Tuan, welcome to the forum. The set of Mazda press cars are, according to the DVLA database, no longer on UK roads...
FKJ 407V Gold 01.08.1979 unlicensed since 01.02.1992 FKJ 414V Red 02.08.1979 unlicensed since 01.02.1995 FKJ 417V Red 02.08.1979 unlicensed since 01.01.1993 FKJ 418V Red 02.08.1979 unlicensed since 01.07 1995 FKJ 419V White 02.08.1979 unlicensed since 01.01.1991 FKJ 420V Grey 02.08.1979 unlicensed since 01.11.1990
That isn\'t to say they don\'t exist any more, just that they haven\'t been taxed for road use.
FKJ 417V was, as you say, one of the early press cars and was handed over to Car magazine at the European RX7 launch in Versailles for a long term test. This was in August 1979 and the car had done 831 miles at that point. Over the next 6 months, Car magazine put 12000 miles on it and reported their views in the magazine..... I have these reviews if you don\'t already have them.
It seems that CAR magazine had the car until February / March 1980 and then it went to TWR.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: tuanage on June 01, 2010, 03:13:04 PM
Thanks Ian for hte info, but its FKJ 419V that concerns us most.
Here it is on the 1980 Tour of Cumbia when Mazda still owned it (http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/648704/80t.jpg)
And in its current form 2009 (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mVg4W04d0F8/SdlIHuwAMSI/AAAAAAAAAC8/IDb0EPJZ5EI/s1024/P1070296.JPG)
It was never owned by TWR, just prepared by them for Mazda Motor Company and then National Breakdown had it in their possession at some stage. Interesting that it shows as 1991 being the last year it was on the UK roads, maybe thats when it started racing... Its currently in Group B spec with a 13B and much wider suspension etc. quite a rasp off it :Laugh
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Post by: Ian65 on June 01, 2010, 03:25:35 PM
sorry my mistake
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Post by: A7RXY on June 01, 2010, 06:36:45 PM
Ian what happend to the photos from your earlier post ?
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Post by: Ian65 on June 01, 2010, 10:39:43 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;697075Ian what happend to the photos from your earlier post ?
it wasn\'t the right car so I took them off
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Post by: syebba on June 02, 2010, 12:14:36 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on June 06, 2010, 03:26:10 PM
The guy in inverness tried to mug me, he wants £45 for a master cylinder, whole car cant have cost much more than that..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on June 06, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
You should\'ve asked him whether that included him coming down and fitting it!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 07, 2010, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: tuanage;696966Hi i\'m new here, though i\'ve been well and truly diagnosed with rotary syndrome :cool
i saw on page 13 of this thread there was some discussion about the first batch of cars brought to the UK. My father owns an rx7 rally car with the reg FKJ 419V, and we\'ve been doing much detective work over the years to try find the history of the car.
Tuan
Hi Tuan, Info the other way if you can help me. It\'s great when a car we thought was still running is confirmed. Last noted your car in 2004, possible also in 2007.
Your dad...is he Finton then?
You will have seen if you\'ve scanned this thread that I can only find 2 first Gen Series 1 cars on the road or (like yours) on the rally circuit. Both are in Ireland. The remaining handful are laid up - presently in resto or for future projects.
I include all of Ireland on my register. Can you give me a very rough location at all? Don\'t worry if not .....I understand not everyone wants to give that.
Thanks for the Post Dave.
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Post by: RamoNZ on June 07, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Welcome back Dave! I hope you have moved my car from SORN to on road???
Also, I came across an article on Hurley motor engineering where they created a triple rotor from 12a engines, making 250 bhp. The car was BKN 377Y with what looked like and Elford kit and pepper pot alloys. Any news of it or other that had the triple rotor 18a treatment?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 07, 2010, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;698163Welcome back Dave! I hope you have moved my car from SORN to on road???
Also, I came across an article on Hurley motor engineering where they created a triple rotor from 12a engines, making 250 bhp. The car was BKN 377Y with what looked like and Elford kit and pepper pot alloys. Any news of it or other that had the triple rotor 18a treatment?
Yep, I\'ve moved it to road going now. That makes 44 1st Gen series 3\'s positively on the road.
BKN 377Y I\'ve got as most likely scrapped. Yellow I\'ve got down for it. No news since a magazine pic in 1988 but interestingly someone was selling an historic RX7 postcard on ebay last Autumn. It was BKN 377Y.
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Post by: Ian65 on June 07, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;698163The car was BKN 377Y with what looked like and Elford kit and pepper pot alloys. Any news of it or other that had the triple rotor 18a treatment?
not taxed since 01.02.1997
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 08, 2010, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;697914The guy in inverness tried to mug me, he wants £45 for a master cylinder, whole car cant have cost much more than that..
Yeah.... similar with me. Said he has a drivers door - £40. Asked for pics to display extent of corrosion, rcvd a pic showing area below handle with small \'bad\' paint touch up. Asked for pic of whole door - rcvd another small area showing loads of rust and another \'very bad\' paint job (looked as though somebody had been using a cat instead of a paint brush) I shudder to think what the entire door looks like. Anyhow, I didn\'t buy. Cliff
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 08, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
Here\'s the latest details I have for 1st Gens presently breaking Cliff. It\'s a word file attachment.
The comments above about the Inverness seller has made me put a "Buyer Beware" tag on my breaking list. I think I still need to put all current sellers in it but I wouldn\'t want anyone to get stung by one that appears to be \'not so good\'.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 08, 2010, 10:19:58 PM
Quote from: daverey;679970Hi Cliff welcome to the forum,looked at JAZ a few years ago but couldn\'t agree a price at the time but I did think the car was one of the better ones around then.
Hi Dave, now had the privelage of owning JAZ for 3 months and have done a lot of work on her - probably something about 50% complete.If this was one of the better RX7s\' I\'d hate to see a real bad one...hmm then again, I\'d probably still throw myself at her to restore to former glory, got to admit they are super looking cars! Cliff
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 08, 2010, 10:26:14 PM
Could somebody please help me out with loading pics - never done this before and having difficulty.Many thanks. Cliff
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Post by: Ian65 on June 08, 2010, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: CHC;698427Could somebody please help me out with loading pics - never done this before and having difficulty.Many thanks. Cliff
Hi Cliff, look on page 17 of this thread and you\'ll see a bit of a tutorial I put up last year, it\'s pretty straight forward
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 09, 2010, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: Ian65;698429Hi Cliff, look on page 17 of this thread and you\'ll see a bit of a tutorial I put up last year, it\'s pretty straight forward
Cheers Ian - I\'ll give this a try tonight. Cliff
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Post by: daverey on June 09, 2010, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: CHC;698425Hi Dave, now had the privelage of owning JAZ for 3 months and have done a lot of work on her - probably something about 50% complete.If this was one of the better RX7s\' I\'d hate to see a real bad one...hmm then again, I\'d probably still throw myself at her to restore to former glory, got to admit they are super looking cars! Cliff
Hi Cliff just been checking how long ago I looked at JAZ and was surprised it was about 6 years ago, probably account for the deterioration if the owner had lost interest in the car.
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Post by: syebba on June 10, 2010, 10:29:42 PM
Hmmmmmmm,in mazda\'s own museum. Is there a mazda museum in UK,wonder if they\'d sell it.?:2Rolleyes ta stu..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 12, 2010, 11:56:39 AM
On Pistonheads today. £995 Red S3 in Fife, Was For Sale in Glasgow a few months back.
Bad pic and link sorry guys.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 12, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
Quote from: David Nock;698976On Pistonheads today. £995 Red S3 in Fife, Was For Sale in Glasgow a few months back.
I\'ve just realised I\'m selling mine too cheap
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Post by: A7RXY on June 12, 2010, 01:25:58 PM
Thats the silly things about these cars, the crap ones sell for under 1k or a lot less but the good ones will not sell for over 1k when they like yours should go for 2k plus............ funny old world
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Post by: Ian65 on June 12, 2010, 01:37:07 PM
It amazes me how people lose all sense of reality when buying a car. They convince themselves that a 25 year old car for a grand is going to be an absolute concours showcar. One bloke rang up and said " is it totally immaculate and as new?" What, for a grand?!! The berk!!
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Post by: shaunwil on June 12, 2010, 03:03:44 PM
That is half the thing doing my nut in at the minute. I\'m considering parting with the FB but the LPG, 13b setup, rebuilt Diff, 17in alloys, moonroof, DAB sound system make me what good cash for it. The body isn\'t brilliant but is still quite good. I\'d be seriously be looking for 2k if I sold. Weather somebody would be prepared to pay it is another thing !
Shaun
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Post by: syebba on June 12, 2010, 03:27:21 PM
For £1000.00 buyers expect a bare metal respray,new engine/suspension/transmission/immaculate interior & a 5 year parts & labour warranty,full years mot & 1 years tax. selling cars sure ain\'t fun. ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on June 12, 2010, 03:59:32 PM
I spent in excess of 1k putting mine back on the road, and have just been quoted £1200 to have the driveshafts changed on my wifes Toyota, so where these people are comming from who knows ...............
Shaun with your set up you would be mad to sell even at the price you are quoting, as to build that again would set you back a lot more, where are you going to get a car that looks that good for the money .................
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Post by: shaunwil on June 12, 2010, 04:24:23 PM
I know what you mean but the floor wants some attention and the dampers are squeaky! Would cost a few quid to put right. Bet I\'ve spent quite a bit over the years of ownership.
Car has a guarenteed valuation of 3.5k on the insurance.
Shaun
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Post by: Ian65 on June 12, 2010, 05:52:55 PM
I think your car would be outside the normal run of the mill RX7 market though Shaun, with the 13b, the gas, the nice wheels and the roof plus the other bits, I reckon someone would pay a premium for that. Selling a standard car is much more difficult..... it\'s almost as if some people are deliberately trying to wind me up!!
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Post by: syebba on June 12, 2010, 05:58:20 PM
\'it\'s almost as if some people are deliberately trying to wind me up!!\' Funny you say that,see your for sale thread! ta stu..
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Post by: maztra on June 12, 2010, 07:04:24 PM
Today i\'ve been to this breaker, and bought the engine. The car was still not touched yet, and i didn\'t looked bad. It ended up as scrap thanks to the scrappage scheme.
The engine purring like a cat. The engine looked clean, the oil looked clean, and under the oil cap looked clean. There was a ro-techniks sticker in the engine bay, and a rx-7 club sticker at the back. I assumed that this car was owned by a enthusiast. That gave me confidence to buy this. I don\'t know if the price is right, but actualy, i don\'t wanna know
The only thing what worries me is that the scrap yard staff are driving the scrap cars like maniacs. I saw how they move cars around the yard. Spinning wheels and screaming engines.
The registration of this car isFBP 400x Is this car known on this forum?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on June 12, 2010, 07:54:35 PM
That red S2 should have been saved we should hang our heads in shame in my opinion. I tried to contact the bloke before it got broke-am still going to try get it engineless anyway.
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Post by: syebba on June 12, 2010, 10:10:26 PM
Inpector Nock will probably tell you it\'s history. I always thought the scrappage scheme would be the death of some perfectly good classics,you,ve just proven it. Not many S2\'s left now,again mr nock has the approx numbers. Hope the engines a good un. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on June 12, 2010, 10:19:59 PM
I\'ve been thinking & it hurts! Until the price of FB\'s rises it\'s inevitable more good ones will be scrapped. Now where\'s the paracetamol.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on June 12, 2010, 10:21:54 PM
Yeah it\'s a touch annoying, especially as it looks solid so to lose a potential donor shell would be a shame.
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Post by: syebba on June 12, 2010, 10:24:47 PM
Do u need a doner shell or just another project? It does look solid,but you know how good FB\'s are at hiding rust! Cool reg nos on it too. ta stu
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Post by: captainbizzaro on June 12, 2010, 10:33:29 PM
Nah not especially but it\'d be nice to have one on standby should the dreaded grot set in. This will definately be Nev\'s last summer on the road before we embark on a teardown though as he is bubbling in two places-one just in front of sunroof and around the offside wiper spindle. I\'m dying to have a dig at it to get it out but don\'t want a summer with an open wound!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 13, 2010, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: maztra;699051Today i\'ve been to this breaker, and bought the engine. The car was still not touched yet, and i didn\'t looked bad. It ended up as scrap thanks to the scrappage scheme.
The engine purring like a cat. The engine looked clean, the oil looked clean, and under the oil cap looked clean. There was a ro-techniks sticker in the engine bay, and a rx-7 club sticker at the back. I assumed that this car was owned by a enthusiast. That gave me confidence to buy this. I don\'t know if the price is right, but actualy, i don\'t wanna know
The only thing what worries me is that the scrap yard staff are driving the scrap cars like maniacs. I saw how they move cars around the yard. Spinning wheels and screaming engines.
The registration of this car isFBP 400x Is this car known on this forum?
Hi and thanks Maztra.....Bart, Is that right? Yes FPB 400X (Reg 8/8/1981) first put in an appearance in 2009 when it was for sale in Suffolk for £1000. It got no bids. The miles were reported as 68,250 at the time but I put it down on my register with a ?? because it looked higher mileage on the ebay pics.
Did you take the engine back to Holland? Just interested.
Cheers Dave
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Post by: maztra on June 13, 2010, 10:23:02 PM
Current milage is 68.846. And the engine will go to Holland where it will replace the dead engine in my matra. Couple of years ago when i put the rotary engine in my matra, i also modified the OMP. I gave it a separate feed with 2stroke oil, instead i uses oil from the sump. It worked great. The olny thing is, you have to keep an eye on the 2stroke oil tank. I went to a trip to Austria, and i kind of forgot to check the oil........ So i am pleased with this new engine.
www.maztra.nl (http://www.maztra.nl)
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Post by: myatt1972 on June 13, 2010, 11:03:15 PM
Hi Maztra, Ive just been looking at your website and Im blown away with the amount and quality of work you have done to convert a 12a to a transverse location. Anybody else reading this should have a look, AMAZING.
Keith...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 14, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;699267Hi Maztra, Ive just been looking at your website and Im blown away with the amount and quality of work you have done to convert a 12a to a transverse location. Anybody else reading this should have a look, AMAZING.
Keith...
Staggering isn\'t it.
I wonder what I was doing whilst this was going on. Probably couch potatoeing with the TV.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 14, 2010, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;698976On Pistonheads today. £995 Red S3 in Fife, Was For Sale in Glasgow a few months back.
Bad pic and link sorry guys.
Better pic.
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Post by: Ian65 on June 14, 2010, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: Ian65;690491C181KHR on ebay in Wolverhampton...
(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/gsxrmovistar1/RX7front.jpg) Where did you find those pics, And whats under the bonnet. Keith.
I think its a 318 bmw engine if i rember rightly may be wrong though
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 18, 2010, 11:19:23 AM
It is on the list Yes. It was on ebay in 2008, in Oxfordshire. I didn\'t note if it sold or not but since it was unlicensed last time I looked I\'m guessing it didn\'t.
I noted it in 2008 as having a BMW engine, I didn\'t know which one so I\'ve added 318 with a ? query. Thanks Michael.
Has it popped up again Ian or are you looking for ideas.....???xx?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 18, 2010, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: TRIND-FD;700139Where did you find those pics, And whats under the bonnet. Keith.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 28, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
Quote from: kiwi-mick;688862new series 2 on pistonheads any info on this one dave?? looks straight enough but unsure about one thing did they ever colour code the spray arms on the front bumper? think this may have had a recent respray and if it has what is it covering??
it had mot until June 2010 but is now sold for spares or repair so i presume the tickets run out.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 30, 2010, 05:41:24 PM
The Fife car is on ebay today. Was on Pistonheads. A lot of Red cars for sale recently......
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 30, 2010, 06:36:43 PM
I saw that earlier...had me thinking... They\'ve spoilt it doing a half arsed respray on it. I\'m not a fan of the original colour but I\'d rather have that than a car that\'s red on top and green underneath. It\'s just amateurish and done on the cheap. I\'m much rather go for originality. The only positive is 12 months mot. When I think I sold my red car the other week for £1199 and that was an original colour, matching numbers car, I reckon this is worth nearer £700 quid and that\'s only cause it\'s got a long ticket. Personally, I wouldn\'t want it for more than a monkey
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 04, 2010, 08:32:38 AM
GTB 744V series 1 on ebay... off the road 17 years... last taxed 01.09.1993
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 04, 2010, 08:37:40 AM
I\'m quite intrigued about the contraption the Hymer is sitting on in the background!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 04, 2010, 08:50:49 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;702644I\'m quite intrigued about the contraption the Hymer is sitting on in the background!
is it a ramp?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on July 04, 2010, 09:27:26 AM
Yeah I reckon so, they must\'ve been bored one sunday afternoon and seen a load of spare I beams lying around.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: jinx on July 04, 2010, 10:11:45 AM
"whatever happened to Donovan?"
David Donovan is (still) at work on a new multi-media album tentatively entitled "Ritual Groove".
The 60\'s just won\'t die will they?
Rgds A
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 04, 2010, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: jinx;702667"whatever happened to Donovan?"
David Donovan is (still) at work on a new multi-media album tentatively entitled "Ritual Groove".
The 60\'s just won\'t die will they?
Rgds A
\'Garden Gates and Snails\'? ugghh.....Give me Genesis lyrics from the early \'70\'s every time. For example...\'Harold the Barrel....a well know Bognor Resauraunt Owner....cut off his toes and served them up for tea\'.
Now that\'s what I call music Jinx.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 04, 2010, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: David Nock;702695\'Garden Gates and Snails\'? ugghh.....Give me Genesis lyrics from the early \'70\'s every time. For example...\'Harold the Barrel....a well know Bognor Resauraunt Owner....cut off his toes and served them up for tea\'.
Now that\'s what I call music Jinx.
I didn\'t get any of that.... it that a coded message to the russians??!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 04, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
Quote from: Ian65;702697I didn\'t get any of that.... it that a coded message to the russians??!!
Just too young Ian....Donovan \'looked upon his Garden Gate\'....
But boy did we love the Harold the Barrel Song ....Bit more, you know you want it....
Background....Harold has realised the enormity of his Crime (serving his toes up in his Restaurant) and he\'s up on a window ledge.
Mother down below shouting \'Your shirts all dirty and and there\'s a man here from the BBC\'
Police with deep \'Plod Voices\'...\'We can \'elp you, we can \'elp you\'!
Harold....\'You must be joking....take a running jump\'...... fades into Harold falling to his doom.....WHAT SUPER STUFF.
All without leaving my screen, no cribbing from the Album....Now who wants \'One for the Vine\'?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: jinx on July 04, 2010, 02:59:22 PM
So, everybody clear now? LOL
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 04, 2010, 06:18:44 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: tuanage on July 09, 2010, 06:16:16 PM
Quote from: David Nock;698161Your dad...is he Finton then?
Can you give me a very rough location at all?
Thanks for the Post Dave.
Dave, sorry for the delay getting back!
Yeah my father Fintan owns the car in question (FKJ 419V) Location is County Kerry in Munster.
Amazing there are only two still running! Ill have a look around to be sure, but was the orange TWR racecar driven by Win Percy at some stage in the BTCC a series one? I saw that at a show in the NEC a few years back almost certain its still knocking about.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on July 09, 2010, 09:10:53 PM
My mum knows Win Percy and remembers the RX7 days......good times.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 10, 2010, 10:55:48 AM
My mum liked MacDonald Hobley on the telly. Good times as you say Tim.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 10, 2010, 11:06:51 AM
Quote from: tuanage;703629Dave, sorry for the delay getting back!
Yeah my father Fintan owns the car in question (FKJ 419V) Location is County Kerry in Munster.
Amazing there are only two still running! Ill have a look around to be sure, but was the orange TWR racecar driven by Win Percy at some stage in the BTCC a series one? I saw that at a show in the NEC a few years back almost certain its still knocking about.
Great, thanks for that Tuan. Yes still only have 2 S1\'s out on the road or on the Rally Circuit.
I remember Win Percy steaming around Brands in the 1980\'s. Stangely they were going the opposite direction to Touring Cars today. I haven\'t seen the car you mention but will keep an eye out. I assume it\'s laid up somewhere. I\'ll note it as a probable SORN or Project car (for want of a better title).
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 10, 2010, 08:18:16 PM
Saw this ad in Loot....
Mazda RX7 1983, bare shell, blue plus spares £175
http://www.loot.com/advert/mazda-rx7-1983/3091416
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 10, 2010, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: daverey;698609Hi Cliff just been checking how long ago I looked at JAZ and was surprised it was about 6 years ago, probably account for the deterioration if the owner had lost interest in the car.
hi Dave - sorry not replied sooner but been very busy and having lots of probs with computer. Wow 6 years - how time flies. From what I have found out \'JAZ\' hadn\'t done that many miles in the interim time (500 miles the last year it was roadworthy) - current mileage 60854 ms. Don\'t get me wrong, \'JAZ\' has mostly needed tlc rather than major surgery even though she has displayed the normal signs of \'rust monkeys\' in the floor pan under the rear seats and the rear outer and inner sills. I took out the rusted areas and have inserted stainless steel and after necessary preventative treatment fully welded up. The majority of my work is preventative maintenance as I thought do it all now rather than having to do it again next year. Nearly finished the underside - just replaced rear shock absorbers today and refurbished petrol tank should be put back next week I hope. When I eventually get this computer working properly I will post fotos for all to see. Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 11, 2010, 11:43:44 AM
Quote from: Ian65;703761Saw this ad in Loot....
Mazda RX7 1983, bare shell, blue plus spares £175
http://www.loot.com/advert/mazda-rx7-1983/3091416
Hmmm....How to get the Reg without dialing a mobile? Might wait and see what develops with it.
I\'ve previously noted an \'83 Blue on SORN in roughly that Area; trouble is that it didn\'t make a £1500 reserve on ebay last year......so not likely to be that one.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on July 11, 2010, 06:10:19 PM
When does this thread get sticky status? Info here that, judging by the replies/views has got interest for all.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 11, 2010, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;703871When does this thread get sticky status? Info here that, judging by the replies/views has got interest for all.
good call, it should be sticky
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 12, 2010, 11:36:33 AM
Quote from: Ian65;702762B reg s3 on Ebay in Notts...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on July 13, 2010, 07:29:21 PM
Unless my eyesight deceives me,i do believe in Ian\'s avatar pic,he\'s polished his black cars front wing & part of the door! What about the rest of it? ta..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on July 13, 2010, 10:05:15 PM
Why on earth is that being broken?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 13, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;704368Why on earth is that being broken?
because people are under the false impression that the parts are valuable and they\'ll make a killing by breaking it rather than selling it complete. Trouble is, there are hardly any 1st gens left, there\'s no demand for the parts and after he\'s stripped it, he\'ll be left with a load of bits he can\'t shift and then they\'ll end up being binned. Meanwhile, another 1st gen is gone forever.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Lisa on July 13, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
Thread now up as a "Sticky"
How come it got to Page 51 before you asked:Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on July 14, 2010, 06:45:56 AM
I emailed him for the aerial, but he did not have one .............. the quest goes on....
Thanks Lisa ..........
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 14, 2010, 07:45:16 AM
Mazda rx7,rotary,1985 140k,full service history,elford engineering 16 stamps,engine rebuilt 4000 miles ago runs superbly,lift out sunroof drivers side wing has light dent/scratch fuel gauge not working overall great little rare sports car test drives/inspection welcome
now being broken for spares on Ebay...when sold in December it had MOT until October 2010.... does it really need to be broken just because it needs an engine and gearbox?
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 14, 2010, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: Ian65;704399and another one scrapped...
now being broken for spares on Ebay...when sold in December it had MOT until October 2010.... does it really need to be broken just because it needs an engine and gearbox?
.
Ian... thought I\'d read that the guy (Glen), bought it to get it\'s engine and gearbox out for something else? This car BHS had a bodykit as well I think.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 14, 2010, 11:49:11 AM
Have you got an ebay Ref No. for the Blue car in Northants Ian? Can\'t find it in the usual \'Rx7 Breaking\' slots.
Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 14, 2010, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;704440Have you got an ebay Ref No. for the Blue car in Northants Ian? Can\'t find it in the usual \'Rx7 Breaking\' slots.
Cheers Dave.
looks like it\'s been removed for some reason
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 14, 2010, 05:25:24 PM
Quote from: Ian65;704483looks like it\'s been removed for some reason
No Probs, we still had enough time for you to spot it and DVLA gives us the Reg Date. All entered up now.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on July 14, 2010, 06:50:41 PM
Yes its been removed I saved it the other night ref:-150467107208
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 14, 2010, 09:26:04 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;704535Yes its been removed I saved it the other night ref:-150467107208 Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on July 14, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
Yeah I guess you hit the nail on the head really Ian. Still doesn\'t make it any easier to accept!
Congrats on achieving sticky status David!:Party
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on July 14, 2010, 09:50:44 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;703871When does this thread get sticky status? Info here that, judging by the replies/views has got interest for all.
Not that it matters, but it was my idea. :King
If the car is still save-able whole, I will shortly have a super sweet 60k mile engine and gearbox complete that would slot straught in if anyone wants to purchase both? I would be happy to make the price agreeable for the lot if this was used to save a poor FB in need...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 14, 2010, 10:00:06 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Bagheera on July 15, 2010, 12:57:23 AM
B150 RBA Black S3, has been out of commission for the last couple of years but is in the garage failing an MOT as we speak. Should be floating all over the road in a week or so. Can\'t wait.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 15, 2010, 05:54:56 AM
Quote from: Bagheera;704598B150 RBA Black S3, has been out of commission for the last couple of years but is in the garage failing an MOT as we speak. Should be floating all over the road in a week or so. Can\'t wait.
Welcome to the forum! Nice looking car! In the best colour too IMO!
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 15, 2010, 06:47:52 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;704566If the car is still save-able whole, I will shortly have a super sweet 60k mile engine and gearbox complete that would slot straught in if anyone wants to purchase both? I would be happy to make the price agreeable for the lot if this was used to save a poor FB in need...
If I had time, I\'d take it on.... sadly I\'m too busy and already up to my neck in FB\'s.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on July 15, 2010, 07:09:44 AM
Quote from: Ian65;704559It\'s been relisted now...
Gone again ..............is it something you said ...........:Giggle
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Post by: Ian65 on July 15, 2010, 10:44:36 AM
It must be!!
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Post by: A7RXY on July 15, 2010, 10:47:47 AM
Ian, I do like your new Avatar, is that your actural car ?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 15, 2010, 11:09:51 AM
He\'s computer grafficked one of my wheels on his new car more like. :rollin
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Post by: A7RXY on July 15, 2010, 11:12:48 AM
I think its one of those arteeeeeeeeee Mazda black and white photo\'s from the 80\'s
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 15, 2010, 11:17:21 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;704566Not that it matters, but it was my idea. :King
If the car is still save-able whole, I will shortly have a super sweet 60k mile engine and gearbox complete that would slot straught in if anyone wants to purchase both? I would be happy to make the price agreeable for the lot if this was used to save a poor FB in need...
I salute your idea my friend Ramo. But surely the new Gullwing Merc is the result of Gottlieb Diamler\'s original idea 51 pages later? :3gears-rh A thinks thas bin standin\' on t\'shoulders of t\'giants..... Joking buddy, good call. :Typing
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 15, 2010, 11:48:42 AM
Quote from: Ian65;704569Dave, have you got this one?
That\'s an Oddity Ian. DVLA says Exported in 1988, where did you find it?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 15, 2010, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Bagheera;704598B150 RBA Black S3, has been out of commission for the last couple of years but is in the garage failing an MOT as we speak. Should be floating all over the road in a week or so. Can\'t wait.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 15, 2010, 05:20:22 PM
Quote from: Bagheera;704598B150 RBA Black S3, has been out of commission for the last couple of years but is in the garage failing an MOT as we speak. Should be floating all over the road in a week or so. Can\'t wait.
I think it\'s a doctored pic then. Unless I can\'t read straight. (DVLA says that Reg was a Blue car with a 2000cc motor, exported around 1988).
So I think I\'ll drop the Reg from the list. It\'s maybe been produced by Parkers as a Marketing Pic?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 15, 2010, 05:29:22 PM
I\'ve tried to bag the Poll winners slot by voting en-block for everyone who\'s a 1st Gen owner and who posts on here. (Members and Guests I assume).
Lisa says I can\'t do that .....I\'m crushed....I\'ve just got a strong winning streak I guess.
So do you feel like voting Guys?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 15, 2010, 05:54:59 PM
Quote from: David Nock;704747So do you feel like voting Guys?
Already have, in fact, I was one of the first to vote. I actually tried to vote twice seeing as I own 2 first gens but it wouldn\'t have that.
Also, it\'s only for paid up members so forum guests don\'t get to vote.
It would be interesting to put a poll on the 1st gen forum listing series 1, 2 & 3 to see how many of each series we have... open to members and guests. We could see if they tie in with your list Dave. We could even split it btw road car, sorned, projects and race cars. Just a thought...
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Post by: A7RXY on July 15, 2010, 06:12:52 PM
OK where and how do we vote ?
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Post by: Ian65 on July 15, 2010, 07:48:31 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;704762OK where and how do we vote ?
the club poll is in \'chit chat\' in the members area
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on July 15, 2010, 07:50:43 PM
I\'ve logged my allegance woopwoop.
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Post by: A7RXY on July 15, 2010, 08:14:49 PM
Cheers Ian job done ............
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 15, 2010, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;704648Ian, I do like your new Avatar, is that your actural car ?
Sadly no, my wheels aren\'t that clean! It\'s just an image I found somewhere on the web. A US car I think.... the giveaway is the lack of a side repeater. I like the \'arty\' look of it though!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Bagheera on July 16, 2010, 02:04:41 AM
Quote from: David Nock;704743But we might pull your leg and say \'That\'s a real man\'s aerial on that car\'. :Giggle
:Giggle Aerials are overrated, I find that a bit of sponge wrapped in a carrier bag does the job just fine. The \'fancy\' ones seem to be like gold dust.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on July 16, 2010, 08:16:09 AM
Quote from: Bagheera;704880I find that a bit of sponge wrapped in a carrier bag does the job just fine.
Now I\'m intrigued!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: sabah on July 16, 2010, 10:32:15 AM
Have you logged mine? I have had it since 1985 and its a beauty. it is a 1984 "A" reg in fantastic condition.65000 genuine miles 1st generation type 2 . It was actually featured in custom car magazine in september 1985- I have a copy of course. Reg no. now TDD123. Always on the road taxed,insured and MOT. Sabah
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on July 16, 2010, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: sabah;704940Have you logged mine? I have had it since 1985 and its a beauty. it is a 1984 "A" reg in fantastic condition.65000 genuine miles 1st generation type 2 . It was actually featured in custom car magazine in september 1985- I have a copy of course. Reg no. now TDD123. Always on the road taxed,insured and MOT. Sabah
pics?:bandit
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on July 16, 2010, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: syebba;704333Unless my eyesight deceives me,i do believe in Ian\'s avatar pic,he\'s polished his black cars front wing & part of the door! What about the rest of it? ta..
Hah,knew it was\'nt Ian\'s car,it\'s been polished:Tongue1 ta..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 16, 2010, 04:30:46 PM
Quote from: sabah;704940Have you logged mine? I have had it since 1985 and its a beauty. it is a 1984 "A" reg in fantastic condition.65000 genuine miles 1st generation type 2 . It was actually featured in custom car magazine in september 1985- I have a copy of course. Reg no. now TDD123. Always on the road taxed,insured and MOT. Sabah
No, never noted it before. I would be interested to know what it\'s original Reg was before TDD. Also if you ever get chance to scan the Custom Car Mag article and either post it up here or email it to me I\'d be very interested in that as well. It\'s all a bit more history to add to what we know already.....
It\'s a Series 2 right? Because as you will know the Series changed in Spring \'84 to the S3\'s. There are a lot less S2\'s around for some reason.
Thanks very much....Dave....dgnock at btopenworld dot com.
PS email me if you want an Excel file showing known locations of 1st Gen cars within the British Isles. (very rough locations to protect people\'s privacy).
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 16, 2010, 05:28:12 PM
Welcome Sabah,always good to hear about unknown 7\'s surfacing! Get some pics up if you get a chance.
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Post by: skybusr34 on July 18, 2010, 01:12:35 PM
ok my reg no OYY 66Y
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 18, 2010, 01:22:30 PM
Quote from: skybusr34;705355ok my reg no OYY 66Y
Thanks very much... All noted up.
Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: dave777 on July 21, 2010, 01:26:35 PM
Hi i\'m a new member Have a 1st gen Series2 Elford Turbo Parked it in my storage shed 12 years ago. Reg No. A141 SUC metallic Red and dust at present! 27 years old next week so decided it needs to see daylight again so am clearing a path to it today! Will it start?? .........!! somehow i doubt it! Will let you know! Cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on July 21, 2010, 01:31:56 PM
Lucky you ........ wellcome to the forum, Mine was left for 11yrs, and no it would not start, carb all blocked up, but then yours has a SU carb. Good luck.
Ian and Dave will be along shortly I\'m sure.
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 21, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
Hi welcome to the forum, this is the place to be for 1st gen owners! You could be the answer to my prayers! I\'ve got a full Elford turbo setup that I\'m in the process of fitting to my 1984 series 2 car but I can\'t find any info anywhere on how to wire it up.
Here we go... http://www.tech-leisure.com/index_files/Page880.htm
There is zero information available on how Elford did it and I\'m really struggling with it.
If possible, I\'d love a quick look under the bonnet of your car to see which wires go to where. I\'ve got the control box and loom but god knows where it all connects to.
I\'m just doing a carb rebuild on mine too as it was all gummed up with sticky fuel residue.
There are only about a dozen Elfords left now I think in the uk so it\'s good to find another one.
Cheers, Ian
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Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 21, 2010, 05:18:19 PM
Welcome Indeed Dave...... Second Shropshire 1st Generation car! That\'s the rarity value now in some areas.
If it\'s any consolation Rotaries seem to take storage much better than Piston Engines. Mine was nearly 8 years from new in a dealer\'s workshop but did start and has done 54,000 trouble free miles since.
A european car is on You Tube - shown starting after absolute yonks (16 or more years) sitting in a yard.
Get some \'aerostart\' spray before trying....can you access the air intake as easy on an Elford as on the normal 12A engine?....If you can then a quick snort in there should help matters along.
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Post by: myatt1972 on July 21, 2010, 06:44:41 PM
Hello and welcome, Great to hear of an elford popping up. Looking forward to some pics (please)
Keith...
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Post by: Ian65 on July 21, 2010, 06:45:57 PM
Quote from: David Nock;706003Get some \'aerostart\' spray before trying....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on July 21, 2010, 06:49:30 PM
I do like that, but seriously I wouldnt use anything like that, give it a good few turns on the key to get the oil round first.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 21, 2010, 06:56:12 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;706028I do like that, but seriously I wouldnt use anything like that, give it a good few turns on the key to get the oil round first.
I agree, I would be wary of using this stuff in a turbo engine. I\'d pull the fuel pump fuse and spin it a bit as Keith says to get the seals lubed up and the compression up before putting the fuse back in and trying to fire it up. SU carbs are a bit intolerant to solidified petrol though. Mine was seized solid.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 21, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
Welcome!!
As peeps have already said it\'s great to see an Elford surfacing
Look forward to an update and piccies!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 22, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;706028I do like that, but seriously I wouldnt use anything like that, give it a good few turns on the key to get the oil round first.
Yes, you\'re quite right about getting the oil circulated. I should have pointed that out but I took it \'as read\' I suppose.
You should crank the engine over for a while, ideally with the plugs out, to get the oil round first and compression up before trying to start it.
But as for aerostart, I keep a spray can on the garage shelf, just in case of a difficult very cold day in Winter when the car hasn\'t run for 3 or 4 weeks. \'Wizz wizz\' it should be called, because that\'s what happens. It goes. (At least with the straight-down-the air-intake-route it goes).
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Post by: dave777 on July 22, 2010, 10:34:20 AM
Turned over fine, gave it plenty of time for oil to renew itself with dry bits! could here fuel pump going ten for the dozen! did give it a whiff of the old easy start! fired 1st time, but turned off as didnt want to drag too much old fuel out of the tank. Carb clean time then fuel it up, a new battery and it will be off the key. Will photo it when outside and washed off! and Ian you are most welcome to view the electricals etc, will mail you when out of store.
cheers dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 22, 2010, 10:38:45 AM
I can hear squeals of delight all around the 1st Gen section. Great Stuff, can\'t wait to see the beast.
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Post by: Marcrs on July 22, 2010, 11:11:29 AM
an elford breathes into life :Thumbsup!
I\'m sooo jealous :)
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Post by: Ian65 on July 22, 2010, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: dave777;706117Will photo it when outside and washed off! and Ian you are most welcome to view the electricals etc, will mail you when out of store.
cheers dave
Cheers Dave, that\'ll be great! my email is ian08 at sky dot com
can\'t wait to see it.
Ian
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 22, 2010, 11:52:38 PM
I vote for before and after pictures-everyones seen mine caked in crud from the winter lay up now it\'s someone else\'s turn!
Plus there is something a bit romantic about firing a car up that can\'t actually see out of. Or maybe it\'s just me.:cool
Congrats on the successful fire up anyhow.:wave
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Post by: A7RXY on July 23, 2010, 06:56:05 AM
I remember it well, mine did start up after 11 years, but had no power because all the secondary jets were blocked, and that darn tar left after the petrol dries up, now that really sticks ..................
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Post by: sabah on July 23, 2010, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: syebba;705013pics?:bandit
Hello, my RX7 used to be registration no. A42 KLN. I am pretty useless at this computer lark and cannot work out how to put pictures to show you!!!! If you can help I would love to show you pics and the feature from custom car. HELP PLEASE!! Sabah
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Post by: Ian65 on July 23, 2010, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: sabah;706359Hello, my RX7 used to be registration no. A42 KLN. I am pretty useless at this computer lark and cannot work out how to put pictures to show you!!!! If you can help I would love to show you pics and the feature from custom car. HELP PLEASE!! Sabah
Sabah,
there\'s an easy to follow guide to posting pictures on page 17 of this thread... here you go...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 23, 2010, 06:18:10 PM
We\'ll soon get you sorted Sabah.....Meanwhile hope this helps:-
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 23, 2010, 06:22:54 PM
And these photo\'s are dated July 2010 Yeh? Hell of a nice car this one Sabah. I think we like it.
Dave
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 23, 2010, 10:28:13 PM
Evening all,
Good news...drove Nev to the MOT station, frankly looking hanging as I didn\'t have time to give him a wash. After a nightmare concerning emissions we have a ticket requiring just a rear tyre (from sitting flat), wiper blades and the yearly temporary front number plate so all good. Will tax next month so I don\'t lose two weeks of duty then off we go-roll on the 21st!
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Post by: Ian65 on July 24, 2010, 06:32:23 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;706465Evening all,
Good news...drove Nev to the MOT station, frankly looking hanging as I didn\'t have time to give him a wash. After a nightmare concerning emissions we have a ticket requiring just a rear tyre (from sitting flat), wiper blades and the yearly temporary front number plate so all good. Will tax next month so I don\'t lose two weeks of duty then off we go-roll on the 21st!
Great news Tim, bet you can\'t wait!
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Post by: Ian65 on July 24, 2010, 07:37:08 AM
seen on autotrader in Hounslow...
1983 (A reg) Coupe 76,000 miles Manual 1.3L Petrol 2 Doors, Manual, Coupe, Petrol, 76,000 miles, Silver. Insurance Group:14, sunroof alloys service history sold to clear, £1,495
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 24, 2010, 11:47:43 AM
Quote from: Ian65;704569Dave, have you got this one?
Hmmmm.....Here\'s Another with an incorrect Reg. This Green Car is from the Mazda Brochure of Feb 1985. I\'d dutifully logged it yonks ago as an S3 1st Gen, \'Probably Scrap\'.
It\'s no such thing, the Reg throws up a Red 1769cc Mazda on DVLA, not taxed since 2000.
Now it\'s Academic really, since all are probably long gone but we Virgo\'s do like things to be what they seem. I think Mazda publicity department hid the true Reg of the White Car and this Green car....but Why??? Com\'on you Closet Poirots.
Give us your guesses.
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Post by: Ian65 on July 24, 2010, 03:28:09 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 24, 2010, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: Ian65;706488seen on autotrader in Hounslow...
1983 (A reg) Coupe 76,000 miles Manual 1.3L Petrol 2 Doors, Manual, Coupe, Petrol, 76,000 miles, Silver. Insurance Group:14, sunroof alloys service history sold to clear, £1,495
No Pics so no Reg but it\'s in R.C. Woods of Hounslow.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 24, 2010, 06:10:04 PM
Quote from: Ian65;706539Blue S2 on ebay in Cheltenham
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 25, 2010, 10:15:39 PM
woah nice door mirrors.
Like the leather though.
Another one thats been off the road a long time and now been resurrected where are they all hiding?!
Think I might sniff round every barn I come across at this rate might get lucky.
By the way if anyone is interested in this one it is only about half an hour from me so don\'t mind going to give it a once over before someone embarks on an expedition from the back of beyond to look at it.
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Post by: myatt1972 on July 25, 2010, 10:35:55 PM
Quote from: Ian65;706767B446 TRH on ebay in Somerset...
Thats a very interesting car, never seen that colour green before, was it some sort of limited edition with the leather?
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Post by: Ian65 on July 25, 2010, 10:50:31 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;706792never seen that colour green before, was it some sort of limited edition ?
Hopefully!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 26, 2010, 10:41:41 AM
TRH went from Sheffield to Somerset last year. I wondered then if it was an import because of the racing green colour. MX5\'s had that colour scheme with beige leather as factory limited editions in the late 1980\'s but I\'m not aware of any FB\'s ever having the same limited edition options. More likely it\'s had a make-over in it\'s early life?
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Post by: A7RXY on July 26, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
I wonder if it could been an opal green car, as it has a brown dash etc. I have seen some imports from Japan with leather interior but not with piping, mind you the colours go together well
Dibs
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Post by: Ian65 on July 26, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
It\'s a bit too green for me
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Post by: A7RXY on July 26, 2010, 02:16:27 PM
I once ordered a Morgan in that colour, but by the time it was ready I could no longer fit in it, so had my XJS rebuilt, you win some and you lose some, sold the Jag for peanuts wonder what the Morgan would have been worth .
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Post by: Ian65 on July 26, 2010, 04:33:45 PM
B682 XEW now back on ebay with £399 starting price and no reserve. Taxed and tested so a cheap car.
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Post by: Ian65 on July 26, 2010, 04:36:50 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;706867I once ordered a Morgan in that colour, but by the time it was ready I could no longer fit in it, so had my XJS rebuilt, you win some and you lose some, sold the Jag for peanuts wonder what the Morgan would have been worth .
Some cars look good in BRG, mainly old English sportscars. Stu\'s cobra also looks the biz but an RX7? mmmmmmm.
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Post by: syebba on July 26, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
Haha,Ian\'s legendary aversion to green surfaces again. Have to say i like the opal green,but not BRG,it\'s toooooooo dark for a Fb,no chrome to set it off. ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on July 26, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
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Post by: syebba on July 26, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
Seems to be an orgy of Fb\'s 4 sale at the mo. Anyone spot what\'s wrong with the back of that red Fb above? ta..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 26, 2010, 08:10:38 PM
Quote from: syebba;706920Seems to be an orgy of Fb\'s 4 sale at the mo. Anyone spot what\'s wrong with the back of that red Fb above? ta..
Yeah whats that all about?
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Post by: A7RXY on July 26, 2010, 09:07:35 PM
Could be a keylock for an old alarm system ............
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Post by: syebba on July 26, 2010, 09:11:43 PM
& should\'nt the rear wiper be sitting at the bottom of the glass hatch? Seen a few like that,looks naff!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 27, 2010, 11:37:40 AM
I remember trying to negotiate a viewing & price on this car in May but it was like pulling teeth - the guy just didn\'t seem genuine to me, made we wonder if he was hiding something. Cliff
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 27, 2010, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: mooragerx7;700147
Quote from: TRIND-FD;700139I think its a 318 bmw engine if i rember rightly may be wrong though
Message for mooragerx7
On a totally different subject - suggested you might have a set of wine/burgundy carpets for 1st Gen? Is this correct? If so would you be interested in selling them? Ta. Cliff
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 27, 2010, 04:56:04 PM
Donavan\'s old car again....Bradford wasn\'t it? Never noticed the double locks on the back before but Donavan\'s car is the same.
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Post by: L18M on July 27, 2010, 05:02:39 PM
Quote from: Ian65;706888B682 XEW now back on ebay with £399 starting price and no reserve. Taxed and tested so a cheap car.
i just spotted that on ebay also and its not far form me. it has got a reserve. wonder what its reserve is. how much do you guys think its worth? i\'m tempted to upgrade to an fb now! though my gal has bad luck with green cars.. but eh, its not heres and she wont be driving it :p
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 27, 2010, 05:39:05 PM
You mean the Green Car don\'t you L18M, because XEW is in Manchester?
It was brought to Somerset for a Resto. So like all such project cars, has it been done up to a good standard?
It\'s a one off colourwise, so worth a look if it\'s near to you I would suppose. Check all the usual trouble spots underneath, like in the rear wheel arches for axle tie plates rusting through. Also chassis legs at front for cracking at Steering box or Idler Arm locations. Bottom of doors (not so bad on Series 3). Also how good was the leather work (retrim?)/ and the Racing Green paint job, both done either some time ago or (very unlikely this) in the Factory?
Mileage is probably unreliable being so low so you need to assess that.
Go\'on then I\'ll have a punt......£650/£800??? - perhaps a tad more if it\'s really nicely done up.
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Post by: L18M on July 27, 2010, 06:09:16 PM
d\'oh, sorry, just saw B and assumed lol
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Post by: L18M on July 27, 2010, 07:57:50 PM
Quote from: Ian65;706767B446 TRH on ebay in Somerset...
res is 850. wonder if it will go for that much? wonder what he would say to £600 cash in hand in fresh £10 notes. can not use £5 notes cos too small, £20 notes wont be a fat enough stack and dont even think about £50 notes as wont seem fat lol
anyone here bidding on it?
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Post by: A7RXY on July 27, 2010, 08:17:55 PM
Try him, but take a look at that front panel between the headlights, it looks abit doggy at the seam with the bonnet and the mazda badge is missing from it, so it could have had some frontal damage. good luck
Dibs
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Post by: myatt1972 on July 27, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
Quote from: L18M;707087i just spotted that on ebay also and its not far form me. it has got a reserve. wonder what its reserve is. how much do you guys think its worth? i\'m tempted to upgrade to an fb now! though my gal has bad luck with green cars.. but eh, its not heres and she wont be driving it :p
I think that looks a real interesting car, never seen that colour before and if it was an aftermarket job at least they took the time to do under the bonnet. Leather looks in good condition and I think its got TWR side skirts but its difficult to tell from the pics. Well worth a punt I think let us know how you get on. Keith...
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 27, 2010, 08:45:15 PM
Yeah go for it then we can convoy it to RS7:D:D
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 27, 2010, 10:19:05 PM
Promised to upload some pics of \'JAZ\' so here we go and lets hope it works. From initial collection early March 2010 to ongoing work to bring her back to roadworthy condition. Have loads more but don\'t want to bore you to death. Cliff :cheers
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 27, 2010, 11:37:17 PM
Lovin the white look:Thumbsup!
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Post by: L18M on July 28, 2010, 12:14:10 AM
shh, dont tell anyone in the 2nd gen section but i quite like my stay so far in the 1st gen section :Thumbsup!
Sods law, just as i\'m ready to look for an fb i get an email saying my car is on track for collection on friday. Not sure if that good or bad. Will see how that goes then see how much the green fb is going for :)
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Post by: A7RXY on July 28, 2010, 06:57:22 AM
Looking good Cliff, where abouts in the UK are you.
Dibs
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Post by: Ian65 on July 28, 2010, 07:27:16 AM
You won\'t bore us Cliff, we love looking at pictures! Fair play to you for doing this car, I\'ve big respect for anyone who gets stuck in and restores a car, it takes dedication and a lot of passion for the job.
I personally love white 1st gens and I reckon the series 2 looks really smart and very retro on those 13" alloys. It\'s going to be a cracker!
Another big plus is that white is probably the easiest and most forgiving colour to spray, unlike black which shows every little imperfection.
How far away from mot time are you now or has it already been done?
As Dave will tell you, there are very few roadworthy series 2 cars left, so for you to repair this one and put it back on the road is just great.
Nice one, great work!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 28, 2010, 07:51:04 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;707193Looking good Cliff, where abouts in the UK are you.
Dibs
Morning Dibs, from the North West - Wirral but travel here and there with job as necessary (Quality Manager) and yes guys will say \'ah that\'s why I\'m a b*g**r for detail. If you\'re going to do a job, do it right I say. How about yourself, where are you from mate? Cliff
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Post by: A7RXY on July 28, 2010, 07:58:52 AM
Cliff, I\'m down in sunny Essex, keep up the good work.
Dibs
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 28, 2010, 08:38:22 AM
Quote from: Ian65;707197You won\'t bore us Cliff, we love looking at pictures! Fair play to you for doing this car, I\'ve big respect for anyone who gets stuck in and restores a car, it takes dedication and a lot of passion for the job.
I personally love white 1st gens and I reckon the series 2 looks really smart and very retro on those 13" alloys. It\'s going to be a cracker!
Another big plus is that white is probably the easiest and most forgiving colour to spray, unlike black which shows every little imperfection.
How far away from mot time are you now or has it already been done?
As Dave will tell you, there are very few roadworthy series 2 cars left, so for you to repair this one and put it back on the road is just great.
Nice one, great work!
Morning Ian - me too, always had a passion for a white sports car but to finish with a 1st Gen S2 even better - wow! When I first saw \'JAZ\' I thought this is something special and had a gut feeling about it (even though my wife felt it would be a rust bucket) but hey it is 27 years young, let\'s not be silly, got to expect corrosion somewhere. Agree white is fairly easy to blend in providing you can get a good match but us maniacs (sorry enthusiasts) know it is really difficult to acquire a perfect match because records sem to stop @ 20+ years. \'JAZ\' has not had an MOT since I embraced her and if all goes to plan I hoping to put her through paces late August or early September. There is definitely a passion to restore this type of vehicle and despite the work involved (which I wouldn\'t consider as being excessive) I would not hesitate to do it again to another - in fact I probably will but \'JAZ\' is for life. A few more fotos\' too, original brown interior, stripping out interior to see what she is like bodily wise (ooh those shapes are a turn on), replacement wine/burgndy interior being installed - and this is why I\'m looking for replacement carpets! Once this is finished I already have projevct 2 in the wings - 2nd Gen FCS, calling her \'RAZ\'. ps you guys cetrainly are early risers or is it that you are late to bed? Cliff :cheers
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 28, 2010, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;707201Cliff, I\'m down in sunny Essex, keep up the good work.
Dibs
Dibs, lovely part of the country, I collected \'JAZ\' from down you way in March (Reading - well it\'s closer to you than it was for me anyway) and also in June when I collected \'RAZ\' from Crawley - who knows for my next collection? My passion for RX7s\' started in 1987 when I owned a 2.6 GT import from Japan. Against better judgement due to change in circumstances we part ex\'d her but the passion couldn\'t keep away. Really glad I came back on board when I did having established the very limited edition or remaining 1st Gen S2 around. Cliff :wave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 28, 2010, 12:07:55 PM
L18M. This is the back axle tie-rod mount which all 1st Gen owners are paranoid about....or should be paranoid about. They crack along the middle of the triangular reinforcing plate and rot through into the rear passenger area.
Cliff....Jaz has not done too badly at all in this area has it? I\'ve seen pics of much worse \'back ends\' if you\'ll forgive the expression. Hope you don\'t mind the \'PicPinch\' for L18M.
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Post by: L18M on July 28, 2010, 12:13:30 PM
cheers david :) there was another cheap one on ebay sold by a garage in cheltenham, start bid of £250 but he is after £1200 ono.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 28, 2010, 02:49:48 PM
Hi David, you\'re right all in all JAZ has done really well - as I have always said there have been necessary areas but also more tlc in a lot of others. I\'m very pleased the way the old girl is coming along and hopefully in 4 - 6 weeks time she\'ll be ready for MOT time :eek. No worries about the pic - glad it can be of use. Cliff
ps. Remember me saying that I used to have yellow 1st Gen S1 Savanah import from Japan, photo attached and also another of JAZ with tailgate supported with timber until the struts were repaired.
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Post by: myatt1972 on July 28, 2010, 09:59:23 PM
Loving that yellow SA, great. Keith...
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 28, 2010, 10:40:19 PM
Liam I went to RXMotors today to pick up a brake calliper and he has a series 3 up on his ramp at the moment that he "found" in his top shed (love that place) which I\'d guess he is prepping to sell. And it\'s white.
On my christmas list is a big shed that FB\'s magically morph from.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 29, 2010, 07:40:17 AM
Already got one ........ it\'s called eBay. Cliff :Giggle:Giggle
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 29, 2010, 07:45:03 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;707406Loving that yellow SA, great. Keith...
Morning Keith. Going back more years than I care to remember there weren\'t many brightly coloured cars round so it really did stand out from the crowd and a real head turner. My brother had a Triumph Stag @ the time and each time we met up he always wanted to drive her - felt great knowing a V8 fanatic was drooling over the Wankel powered beast. Love it.
Chatting with David Nock recently it turns out that a subsequent owner turned her RED and she disappeared from the records and has faded into history..... hmm wonder whether she finished up in the \'Top Shed\' @ RXMotors. Cliff :wave
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Post by: syebba on July 30, 2010, 08:11:36 AM
White Fb\'s look clean & fresh. Amazing how well they hide their rust.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 30, 2010, 08:59:46 AM
Don\'t know whether this is true or not but many years ago I was told that a white vehicle had at least 7 coats of paint whereas darker/primary/metallic colours only had 3 coats. If this is true it could explain why they tend to be more forgiving and don\'t show rust until it tends to be too late - by which time it has become quite a serious issue.
This happened with me when I bought JAZ on eBay - looked fine on the screen, looked reasonable even close up but if you hit it quite hard it sounded like a packet of crisps so I thought oops, break out the MIG set.
Moral of the story - just because it\'s white and looks okay, doesn\'t mean it is. Cliff
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Post by: A7RXY on July 30, 2010, 09:02:12 PM
Did anyone see if the dark green series 3 sold on ebay ?
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Post by: A7RXY on July 30, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
Quote from: Ian65;706767B446 TRH on ebay in Somerset...
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Post by: A7RXY on July 31, 2010, 05:30:31 PM
Thats good I\'m glad people have stopped giving these cars away, I hope they stick to their guns and don\'t break them.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 31, 2010, 07:57:15 PM
It is good that owners perhaps are starting to realise that these are worth more but the market will only withstand what somebody is prepared to pay.
So to us (the genuine enthusiast) we would go higher for a good one whereas an outsider without previous knowledge and appreciation of the raw handling and power provided by the wankel engine still see these cars as problematic old technology, a 25 to 30 year old vehicle that in their mind is only worth a few hundred pounds
All in all this has to be to the benefit of us and we are basically in control of the RX7 future - lets keep \'em going and show onlookers how great they are!
Cliff
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Post by: A7RXY on July 31, 2010, 08:22:50 PM
The problem is that if they sell them cheap the breakers buy them and then we all know what happens ................
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Post by: Ian65 on July 31, 2010, 08:53:05 PM
I don\'t understand why the breakers want them when there\'s no market for the parts.. I just don\'t get it.
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Post by: A7RXY on July 31, 2010, 09:20:35 PM
Ian, there lies the problem, if they can buy them cheap enough they think they can make a profit and the rest goes to scrape. Then when we do need spares there will not be any about, I supose then it will become economical to break them.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on August 01, 2010, 09:10:23 PM
.....and if they can buy them cheap enough they can be weighed in and sold for scrap metal.... then they have their profit.
:mad:
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 01, 2010, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: David Nock;706511Hmmmm.....Here\'s Another with an incorrect Reg. This Green Car is from the Mazda Brochure of Feb 1985. I\'d dutifully logged it yonks ago as an S3 1st Gen, \'Probably Scrap\'.
It\'s no such thing, the Reg throws up a Red 1769cc Mazda on DVLA, not taxed since 2000.
Now it\'s Academic really, since all are probably long gone but we Virgo\'s do like things to be what they seem. I think Mazda publicity department hid the true Reg of the White Car and this Green car....but Why??? Com\'on you Closet Poirots.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on August 01, 2010, 10:04:12 PM
Perhaps they used plates from demonstration vehicles purely for the publicity?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 02, 2010, 10:51:15 AM
yes, maybe - something like that, they probably had lots of cars pre-registered at Tunbridge Wells, waiting to go out. When they wanted a shot of a car, any car, they just grabbed a couple of plates out of a bin and went-a-shooting?
But now we closet sleuths are finally exposing (get it you pre-digital guys?) their dirty little game!
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Post by: Ian65 on August 02, 2010, 11:04:43 AM
There are a few 1st gens with similar plates... B962 SKR B977 SKR B981 SKR B983 SKR...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on August 02, 2010, 11:27:28 AM
Are these still roadworthy too?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: jinx on August 02, 2010, 12:11:11 PM
I can\'t help but follow this thread. It is interesting and frustrating in equal measure.
12-18 months ago when I was seriously shopping for a Gen 1, it seems to me that some of the cars that have been featured here recently would have been much more expensive than now. Back then, my failed search suggests they would have sold too but several of your recent \'stars\' appear not to have reached their reserve. Having ever so nearly parted with all but 1500 for something that had spent 10 years in a grain store and still did not run properly (to be sorted out before sale - is it on here yet?) I\'m appalled to see so many nice cars devaluing their cousins by their failure to sell.
It might be good news to current owners buying cars for spares but A7RXY is right; the cheaper they get or the lower their value is perceived to be, the less likely anyone (other than a specialist with plenty of very cheap storage) is to waste the effort dismantling them on the off-chance of finding a buyer for the bits - never mind saving whole cars. It will make crushing them a no-brainer for professionals or owners faced with restoration or repair bills and a mild dip in their enthusiasm.
Seems a pity for such an important car - the first real rotary success story (Numbers sold/competition history etc.) - to finish up condemned when other in-period choices are lauded (rightly or wrongly) as classic landmarks. If people saw more of them maybe their qualities would be better recognised but with the exception of the MRC Brooklands event, I don\'t think I\'ve seen a Gen 1 at any car show I\'ve been to in the last couple of years. Perhaps you should...in the nicest possible sense....get out more. :rollin
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 02, 2010, 12:46:06 PM
Jinx, I did go to Brooklands this year, but due to the car being off the road for some years and work commitments it is not that easy to attend these events, most of the gen 1 owners are up and down the country and at the end of the day there are not that many of us, plus a few of us are no longer spring chickens. But you are right we do need to get out and about a bit more, now where did I put my pipe and slippers .................
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: jinx on August 02, 2010, 02:08:14 PM
Sorry A7RXY - It wasn\'t a criticism of a preference for seed catalogues and reruns of anything with that nice John Nettles in. :Giggle
Despite, in a fit of pique/moment of folly, buying an FD, I would be an FB owner if I had anywhere to keep it. Their appetite for rushing to rust, albeit shared with lots of contemporaries, is what prevents me from joining the ranks given my continuing lack of a garage. A life outside would be unfair to a good car and unreasonable to expect a less good one to survive for long. I\'d just like to see more of them.
I went to Brooklands and based on the numbers there this year, the FC should be the rarest of the 7\'s - though I have no idea if it is? In contrast, this summer I met an elderly gentleman doing his 200th rally event in a 356 Porsche he\'s had from new*. He had a pipe and slippers but left them at home...sometimes. :Thumbsup! Krgds Andrew (*I appreciate he can still buy parts for that at his local Porsche dealer so the analogy is not a perfect fit but.... :))
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Lisa on August 02, 2010, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;708264But you are right we do need to get out and about a bit more, now where did I put my pipe and slippers .................
How many of you 1st Gen owners are going to make an appearence at Rotorstock 7 on 21st August at Santa Pod.?
You could all come along and have a 1st gen get together:Party
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 02, 2010, 03:06:54 PM
Jinx, It was all taken light hearted, hence the pipe and slippers, my excuse is that I\'m involved in non-league football and most of my time is spent doing that, I would love to attend more meets, but alas it is not possible, now back to this seasons fixtures ................
So sorry Lisa I will not be able to attend, but Brooklands is booked in for next year.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Lisa on August 02, 2010, 03:19:10 PM
That\'s a shame, is there anyone else one this thread looking to attend Rotorstock?
It would be really good to have some 1st Gen\'s on show. The only one I know for sure is Roger, he does not post on here but had the white FB at Brooklands.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on August 02, 2010, 05:25:28 PM
As much as I would luv to say yes - JAZ not ready for MOT yet but still working at it but see you soon. Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on August 02, 2010, 05:31:11 PM
And if the FC is rare too - guess what, got one of them as well. This is my next project waiting in the wings so to speak - this is stored outside but under total tarpaulin cover.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 02, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: Lisa;708287That\'s a shame, is there anyone else one this thread looking to attend Rotorstock?
It would be really good to have some 1st Gen\'s on show. The only one I know for sure is Roger, he does not post on here but had the white FB at Brooklands.
I\'m sure David will attend :Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: jinx on August 02, 2010, 06:04:46 PM
CHC - I\'ve reported you to the Gresham Street resident\'s committee! :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mpk490p on August 02, 2010, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Lisa;708287That\'s a shame, is there anyone else one this thread looking to attend Rotorstock?
It would be really good to have some 1st Gen\'s on show. The only one I know for sure is Roger, he does not post on here but had the white FB at Brooklands.
i will be making the long trek there Lisa ;)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: L18M on August 02, 2010, 11:13:36 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;707412Liam I went to RXMotors today to pick up a brake calliper and he has a series 3 up on his ramp at the moment that he "found" in his top shed (love that place) which I\'d guess he is prepping to sell. And it\'s white.
On my christmas list is a big shed that FB\'s magically morph from.
sorry for late reply! I want one of those sheds also :p
since seeing the white (well more cream colour) one in somerset (which i saw again today), think it might be an elford as it had the deep front bumper, not pointly like typical fb. i SO WANT THAT ONE! i dont know much about fb\'s but believe the elfords had: pepper pot wheels whale tail spoiler deep front bumper.
not sure what else, turbo? but cant really look under hood if its driving along lol
The green one in somerset was £850 reserve. i\'m sure he would drop a few quids if you turned up with cash. even if it was less ebay fees.
Talking about scrap, if they buy for a couple hundred quid, i think they can still make some money on it. Remember, older cars are made of metal not plastic so would fetch higher price.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 02, 2010, 11:34:13 PM
I\'ll be at RS7 with my FB I just need a convoy partner or two for security in numbers! Am travelling from north dorset if anyone is interested in sorting something out.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: L18M on August 02, 2010, 11:44:35 PM
if i get my fc on the road by then, then i will be up for it. Security? in case you get car jacked? or break down? lol
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 03, 2010, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: syebba;708306I\'m sure David will attend :Giggle
No, I\'ll be on security duty....Otherwise when everyone gets back home all the FC\'s, FD\'s and 8\'s will have peeped into our 1st Gen Section and posted rude things about us. :Nono!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 03, 2010, 11:44:55 AM
Quote from: L18M;708380since seeing the white (well more cream colour) one in somerset (which i saw again today), think it might be an elford as it had the deep front bumper, not pointly like typical fb. i SO WANT THAT ONE! i dont know much about fb\'s but believe the elfords had: pepper pot wheels whale tail spoiler deep front bumper.
not sure what else, turbo? but cant really look under hood if its driving along lol
Don\'t shoot the messenger if it turns out to be no good, but this Gold Elford was for sale near Wembly a few times in 2009 and 2010. It has been standing for a few years. (Haven\'t all the FB\'s?). It never seemed to make its reserve.....which wasn\'t that much L18M. The seller was called Ted and he sounded OK to me. I still have his contact details if you\'re interested in a project. BUT WARNING, THIS COULD BE A MONEY PIT WAITING FOR SOME POOR SOUL TO FALL INTO??
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 03, 2010, 01:00:07 PM
Didn\'t it make over a grand once and then the sale fell through?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 03, 2010, 04:12:21 PM
Quote from: L18M;708380since seeing the white (well more cream colour) one in somerset (which i saw again today), think it might be an elford as it had the deep front bumper, not pointly like typical fb. i SO WANT THAT ONE! i dont know much about fb\'s but believe the elfords had: pepper pot wheels whale tail spoiler deep front bumper.
not sure what else, turbo? but cant really look under hood if its driving along lol
here\'s the sp on elfords... very very rare cars now.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 03, 2010, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: L18M;708387if i get my fc on the road by then, then i will be up for it. Security? in case you get car jacked? or break down? lol
:GiggleBreakdown mate definately:Giggle
David I\'d be interested in those contact details of the gold one if no-one else is going too chase it up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 03, 2010, 05:36:08 PM
Quote from: Ian65;708450Didn\'t it make over a grand once and then the sale fell through?
Yes it did, then it was relisted, sold for a few hundred less but that also fell through due to \'timewasters\'? I\'ve asked the Seller if he did sell in the end, (for my own interest), but no reply as yet.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 03, 2010, 05:42:06 PM
Quote from: David Nock;708518Yes it did, then it was relisted, sold for a few hundred less but that also fell through due to \'timewasters\'? I\'ve asked the Seller if he did sell in the end, (for my own interest), but no reply as yet.
that was strong money for a non runner, elford or not. I wonder what the bodyworks like? looks quite tidy but you never can tell from a photo, can you? Be nice to tranfer all the stuff over onto NEV though Tim and then sell the donor car on...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 03, 2010, 05:43:20 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: L18M on August 04, 2010, 12:31:11 PM
Cheers david, i\'d be looking for something that can just be picked up and driven away. no more projects / mechanical work for me.
The more i think about it, the more i\'m convinced the white fb i saw is an elford. Think i\'ll stalk the car next time i see it lol
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 04, 2010, 07:26:24 PM
Quote from: Ian65;708519that was strong money for a non runner, elford or not. I wonder what the bodyworks like? looks quite tidy but you never can tell from a photo, can you? Be nice to tranfer all the stuff over onto NEV though Tim and then sell the donor car on...
Yeah thats what I had in mind Ian, especially those meshies! Like you said it depends what state it\'s in really as I \'d rather keep two roadworthy than break it for the sake of it but if it\'s like a teabag I\'d do just that. We gotta get the chap to answer his phone first!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 05, 2010, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: Ian65;699479
Quote from: Ian65;690491C181KHR on ebay in Wolverhampton...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on August 05, 2010, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: David Nock;708873
Quote from: Ian65;699479Back on Pistonheads. Same price £1195.
I know I shouldnt but I do quite like that
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 05, 2010, 07:23:42 PM
Keith, I think someone has just hacked your account and made a weird and bizarre statement whilst pretending to be you.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on August 05, 2010, 09:42:04 PM
Vectra B bumper.
Reason enough why the owner should be shot. Yuk.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 08, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
Mine can be logged as MOT\'d and taxed again,little pic of a Rotard in the making helping me out! [ATTACH]48504[/ATTACH]
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 08, 2010, 08:48:19 PM
Looking good!! Did you take the side mouldings off Tim?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 08, 2010, 09:12:14 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;708890
Quote from: David Nock;708873I know I shouldnt but I do quite like that
it\'s back on the bay £99 with no reserve!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 08, 2010, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: Ian65;709462Looking good!! Did you take the side mouldings off Tim?
The previous owner took them off Ian, I considered replacing them but actually quite like how it looks without so left it as is.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 08, 2010, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;709491The previous owner took them off Ian, I considered replacing them but actually quite like how it looks without so left it as is.
so do I.... usually I prefer them on but your car looks very nice without them.... nice clean lines.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on August 08, 2010, 10:08:51 PM
Quote from: Ian65;709479
Quote from: myatt1972;708890it\'s back on the bay £99 with no reserve!
Couldnt buy it if I wanted to, went to car show at stafford castle today and Tracy (her indoors) put a deposit on this....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 09, 2010, 05:21:03 PM
That\'s the one, Seller is Kennetts in Cheltenham, 01242 530280.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 09, 2010, 09:20:37 PM
Quote from: David Nock;709548Back on ebay due to \'timewasters\'
it made £640 reserve not met last time
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 10, 2010, 10:27:52 AM
I have been asked to put this up and thought this was the best place,this is the email address of a guy of who has alot of parts for the 1st gen RX7 If anyone wants for example a "Moonroof" then he has a couple for sale for £300.00 each. Lots of other parts available too and even a complete car. russ7219@googlemail.com He will be more than happy to deal with anyone who needs parts for these great cars! Regards Carl
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on August 10, 2010, 11:34:24 AM
cough cough, splutter, oops spilt me tea!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on August 10, 2010, 01:59:06 PM
Quote from: David Nock;708439Don\'t shoot the messenger if it turns out to be no good, but this Gold Elford was for sale near Wembly a few times in 2009 and 2010. It has been standing for a few years. (Haven\'t all the FB\'s?). It never seemed to make its reserve.....which wasn\'t that much L18M. The seller was called Ted and he sounded OK to me. I still have his contact details if you\'re interested in a project. BUT WARNING, THIS COULD BE A MONEY PIT WAITING FOR SOME POOR SOUL TO FALL INTO??[/quote
David, you know if anything came of the gold Elford?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 10, 2010, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;709756If anyone wants for example a "Moonroof" then he has a couple for sale for £300.00 each.
He will be more than happy to deal with anyone
I bet he will! 300 quid?????????
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 10, 2010, 02:46:26 PM
Quote from: Ian65;709808I bet he will! 300 quid?????????
I sold my last one for £250.00 and then got one or two people saying that they would have paid more for one,so it is not in the realms of fantasy this price. Regards Carl
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 10, 2010, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;709811I sold my last one for £250.00 and then got one or two people saying that they would have paid more for one,so it is not in the realms of fantasy this price. Regards Carl
Anyone who pays £300 for a moonroof is a mug. You can import them from the US for less than £200 shipped. I trust he\'s going to be more realistic with the rest of his parts if he wants to sell them. The days of 1st gen parts fetching big money have long gone.
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Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rossonza on August 10, 2010, 04:38:20 PM
£300? i could buy another fb for that! (maybe :P)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 10, 2010, 04:56:56 PM
I don\'t know why you are knocking this guy,if you personally don\'t want to pay the price then don\'t contact him to buy one,I am sure others will be more than interested. Each to his own. I sold my roof recently for £250.00 so the day\'s for that price is here and now I am afraid,and I had people complaining that I had not told them that I had the roof. If you get one from the states it would cost more than £200.00 including transport and duty and the like and ontop of that it might not arrive intact either. Regards Carl
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 10, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: rossonza;709834£300? i could buy another fb for that! (maybe :P)
Yeah,but has it got a moonroof?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 10, 2010, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;709839if you personally don\'t want to pay the price then don\'t contact him to buy one, I sold my roof recently for £250.00 so the day\'s for that price is here and now I am afraid,and I had people complaining that I had not told them that I had the roof.
I definitely wont be contacting him so that he can take the p**s out of me.
Ok, so you sold yours for £250.... that just means that you managed to drop on one person who doesn\'t know the true value of a roof panel, not that a piece of toughened smoked glass has suddenly doubled in price.
If people are gullible enough let greedy traders and vendors turn them over, that\'s their problem. £300 for a roof panel, dream on.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 10, 2010, 06:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ian65;709847I definitely wont be contacting him so that he can take the p**s out of me.
Ok, so you sold yours for £250.... that just means that you managed to drop on one person who doesn\'t know the true value of a roof panel, not that a piece of toughened smoked glass has suddenly doubled in price.
If people are gullible enough let greedy traders and vendors turn them over, that\'s their problem. £300 for a roof panel, dream on.
Thanks for the "greedy trader" remark. All I did was try to help a guy who could not get on here himself even though he signed up:( Shame.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 10, 2010, 06:18:35 PM
Anyway\'s the chap might well be selling something that is just what someone else really wants and you Ian65 might have been selling it for double what he might offer it out at. I only put one price up of one thing what he was offering for sale.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 10, 2010, 07:57:42 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;709861Anyway\'s the chap might well be selling something that is just what someone else really wants and you Ian65 might have been selling it for double what he might offer it out at. I only put one price up of one thing what he was offering for sale.
I don\'t understand any of that. What are you getting at?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on August 10, 2010, 08:08:15 PM
Who fed him that they were worth £300? The FB fellowship should stand strong and not buy them to set the precedent.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 10, 2010, 08:19:11 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;709877Who fed him that they were worth £300? The FB fellowship should stand strong and not buy them to set the precedent.
Absolutlely spot on! I hope no one is daft enough to pay that much. It just inflates the prices for everyone else.
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Post by: Ian65 on August 10, 2010, 08:53:30 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on August 11, 2010, 01:45:42 PM
David check out web site rally.i.e. classifies fb rally car. Have you got the reg also anyone a spare 30 grand ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: manrotor on August 11, 2010, 06:47:51 PM
Cor! You\'re a tough crowd, aren\'t you???
Hello all. My name is Russell!
I\'m a mug who has been daft enough to pay three hundred quid to get a moonroof! Yet, I was delighted to spend three hundred of my hard-earned pounds to give my car a new feel from a choice of sunroofs... I have never resented paying for that pleasure, and if asked, I certainly don\'t feel as though I have been conned!
I spent years trying to get a glass sunroof, so I think I\'ve got a rough idea of their cost, and scarcity.
Incidentally, it\'s not just toughened smoked glass at all. They are both hard-tempered PDG SOLARCOOL roof panels specific to a Mazda RX-7 1981-1985, with a gilded translucent mirror finish on the inside and black on the outside, and they make a great upgrade to the car, even if the sacrifice is a greenhouse effect in the summer, and a freeze in the winter. That said, I loved it! Especially at night funnily enough.
To import one from the USA will cost much more than three hundred quid. Come on, think about it... I did this myself in 1998 and received some nice brackets and 21,000 pieces of glass.
Incidently, I wouldn\'t be prepared to post the moonroof - I bought one via post and just couldn\'t glue it together well enough - it always leaked!
And Ian65, I was not trying to take the p*** out of anyone; I like your website by the way, and your cars too. Your efforts to save RX7s is highly commendable. I\'ve also got a black \'85 which I\'ve owned for 16 years and driven 261,000 miles, each one with love. Had several others as well. I\'ve given much of my life to RX7s and am merely selling some now unwanted spares! Please don\'t be jealous of me. I would have ingratiated you, and offered much help to you! If you can\'t afford my prices, email me your sob story and I\'ll probably give them away; I\'m certainly not a greedy trader. Of course though, your opportunity to negotiate has gone!
So, as I won\'t be selling you anything, I certainly won\'t be taking the P*** out of you! I\'ve got nothing to lose, and what doesn\'t sell will have to go in a skip!
If anyone is interested please feel free to contact me. I\'m trying to be light hearted and I\'m perfectly reasonable, and have an abundance of rare spare parts - side skirts, TWR fibreglass rear spoiler, pristine black Elford body kit, 12A JANSPEED header, 13B FB JANSPEED header, new/old stock 12A backbox, lightly used TT s/s exhaust full system, NEW & re-con \'85 petrol tank, body panels, running 12a engines, \'79 instrument cluster, interior trim, air con\', and plenty more. This is a lifetimes worth of spares for sale, far too much to list, but a lot of real goodies; Elford courtesy light delay relay, 2 re-con TII logi-cons, carb 13B jet kit, used-but-useable tips & seals, Black US rear bumper (cracked paint (needs respraying to be perfect), etc, etc. Too much to list.
If nobody is interested in the sunroofs, I\'ll put them on ebay in a few weeks. If they make a hundred quid, we\'ll all know they\'re monetary-value is a hundred quid.
I\'ve got to say, perhaps I\'m getting old, but in the early days of the owners club (pre-web) it was a whole lot more pleasant. I used to love the meets and car shows and summer barbqs at Jimmys. It all seems so hostile here.
My thanks to HaywardRotary though, because you were a thoroughly decent chap on the telephone, and thank you for the advert too. I\'m only sorry that you\'re now getting stick from your chums because of me! Oops!
So that\'s my rant over.
To be frank, I\'m not going to use this site any more, and that\'s a real shame. It looks good, has loads of info, and appears to be run very well, so think yourselves lucky it\'s here. By abusing other peoples offers (whether to your liking or not), all you\'ll do is scare off potential members, some of whom will have much more experience of these cars than many of you yourselves have, and sadly that is only to the detriment of the whole club and those who work to provide it for all, rather than just a couple of jealous grumpy MEMBERS. So, say what you want about me and my God-awful-prices; I won\'t see your comments again.
Anyone that contacts me via email will find that I\'m decent enough, merely trying to find a good home for some parts which I have saved for many years.
Good luck to all, and sadly for me, goodbye forever.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 11, 2010, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: manrotor;710064Cor! You\'re a tough crowd, aren\'t you???
Hello all. My name is Russell!
I\'m a mug who has been daft enough to pay three hundred quid to get a moonroof! Yet, I was delighted to spend three hundred of my hard-earned pounds to give my car a new feel from a choice of sunroofs... I have never resented paying for that pleasure, and if asked, I certainly don\'t feel as though I have been conned!
I spent years trying to get a glass sunroof, so I think I\'ve got a rough idea of their cost, and scarcity.
Incidentally, it\'s not just toughened smoked glass at all. They are both hard-tempered PDG SOLARCOOL roof panels specific to a Mazda RX-7 1981-1985, with a gilded translucent mirror finish on the inside and black on the outside, and they make a great upgrade to the car, even if the sacrifice is a greenhouse effect in the summer, and a freeze in the winter. That said, I loved it! Especially at night funnily enough.
To import one from the USA will cost much more than three hundred quid. Come on, think about it... I did this myself in 1998 and received some nice brackets and 21,000 pieces of glass.
Incidently, I wouldn\'t be prepared to post the moonroof - I bought one via post and just couldn\'t glue it together well enough - it always leaked!
And Ian65, I was not trying to take the p*** out of anyone; I like your website by the way, and your cars too. Your efforts to save RX7s is highly commendable. I\'ve also got a black \'85 which I\'ve owned for 16 years and driven 261,000 miles, each one with love. Had several others as well. I\'ve given much of my life to RX7s and am merely selling some now unwanted spares! Please don\'t be jealous of me. I would have ingratiated you, and offered much help to you! If you can\'t afford my prices, email me your sob story and I\'ll probably give them away; I\'m certainly not a greedy trader. Of course though, your opportunity to negotiate has gone!
So, as I won\'t be selling you anything, I certainly won\'t be taking the P*** out of you! I\'ve got nothing to lose, and what doesn\'t sell will have to go in a skip!
If anyone is interested please feel free to contact me. I\'m trying to be light hearted and I\'m perfectly reasonable, and have an abundance of rare spare parts - side skirts, TWR fibreglass rear spoiler, pristine black Elford body kit, 12A JANSPEED header, 13B FB JANSPEED header, new/old stock 12A backbox, lightly used TT s/s exhaust full system, NEW & re-con \'85 petrol tank, body panels, running 12a engines, \'79 instrument cluster, interior trim, air con\', and plenty more. This is a lifetimes worth of spares for sale, far too much to list, but a lot of real goodies; Elford courtesy light delay relay, 2 re-con TII logi-cons, carb 13B jet kit, used-but-useable tips & seals, Black US rear bumper (cracked paint (needs respraying to be perfect), etc, etc. Too much to list.
If nobody is interested in the sunroofs, I\'ll put them on ebay in a few weeks. If they make a hundred quid, we\'ll all know they\'re monetary-value is a hundred quid.
I\'ve got to say, perhaps I\'m getting old, but in the early days of the owners club (pre-web) it was a whole lot more pleasant. I used to love the meets and car shows and summer barbqs at Jimmys. It all seems so hostile here.
My thanks to HaywardRotary though, because you were a thoroughly decent chap on the telephone, and thank you for the advert too. I\'m only sorry that you\'re now getting stick from your chums because of me! Oops!
So that\'s my rant over.
To be frank, I\'m not going to use this site any more, and that\'s a real shame. It looks good, has loads of info, and appears to be run very well, so think yourselves lucky it\'s here. By abusing other peoples offers (whether to your liking or not), all you\'ll do is scare off potential members, some of whom will have much more experience of these cars than many of you yourselves have, and sadly that is only to the detriment of the whole club and those who work to provide it for all, rather than just a couple of jealous grumpy MEMBERS. So, say what you want about me and my God-awful-prices; I won\'t see your comments again.
Anyone that contacts me via email will find that I\'m decent enough, merely trying to find a good home for some parts which I have saved for many years.
Good luck to all, and sadly for me, goodbye forever.
I too have imported a roof from the states in 2001, it was a lot less than £300and arrived in perfect condition so don\'t bother trying to justify your high prices to me. If you paid £300 yourself, then you were turned over.
As for your comments relating to me, let have it straight...
1. I don\'t need your help, advice, parts, etc, etc
2. I\'m not short of a few quid because I know the value of things and don\'t get stung by the likes of you.
3. I have never intimated that I would want to buy anything from you or negotiate for anything that you may or may not own.
4. Jealous of you? get over yourself! I\'d never heard of you until yesterday when I saw that you would be happy to fleece us.
5. You\'re bang on the money there, you won\'t ever be selling anything to me. So you\'re going to skip what you don\'t sell? I suggest you get a 20 yard roll on, roll off because if you\'ve got as much stuff as you claim, and your sunroof prices are anything to go by, you won\'t be selling much.
This is a real friendly forum with a nice vibe...visitors / guests are made to feel welcome and offered plenty of help and assistance. Unfortunately ( for you) that doesn\'t extend to people who appear to be trying to screw as much money as possible out of genuine enthusiasts.
But you won\'t be checking back in to see this reply will you??!!!
Thanks for the lecture that we never asked for!
Hopefully we can get back to the nice friendly vibe we had before you showed up.
Goodbye!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: jinx on August 11, 2010, 08:57:42 PM
**** me! And on a thread where you were worried about "FC, FD and 8 owners peeping in and posting rude things about YOU?" Don\'t worry - you lot can hold your own in the playpen, celebrating the day when everything you want is valueless...right up until you want to sell it.
Never mind, I\'ll leave you to your "nice friendly vibe" :rollin and you can be as rude as you like to me too as I probably won\'t be looking back in either. It will mean one less FD \'peeping in\' so that should work out quite well.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 11, 2010, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: jinx;710109**** me! And on a thread where you were worried about "FC, FD and 8 owners peeping in and posting rude things about YOU?" Don\'t worry - you lot can hold your own in the playpen, celebrating the day when everything you want is valueless...right up until you want to sell it.
Never mind, I\'ll leave you to your "nice friendly vibe" :rollin and you can be as rude as you like to me too as I probably won\'t be looking back in either. It will mean one less FD \'peeping in\' so that should work out quite well.
Why on earth would we want to be rude to you? Stay here and join in the fun!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: clive on August 12, 2010, 11:37:28 AM
Shame that one of the nicest threads on MRC has degenerated and that we have now a reported post from it,
Rather than suggest who may or may not have been in the wrong, I would just like you all to draw your attention to this paragraph below for future reference please that constructed in April 2008 after arguing nearly killed MRC
2. Online Behaviour
The primary change will be one of attitude â€" with respect for other club users now becoming the number 1 criteria for being part of MRC. The forum is not to be a platform to disparage others, make accusations or insinuations relating to the character or conduct of others. MRC will be more ready to pro-actively manage the content of posts seen as defamatory or aimed at promoting senseless argument amongst individuals or groups. These rules apply to everyone.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 12, 2010, 12:25:40 PM
Interestingly enough Russell has had quite a few enquiries now from people who are genuinely interested in buying some of his parts. So don\'t let some peoples comments stop you from contacting him,he is a decent and friendly chap and from what he has told me if you are a real enthusiast for these cars he is willing to negotiate prices. Regards Carl
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: manrotor on August 12, 2010, 05:46:54 PM
Damn it! I looked! I tried not to! Honest to God, how I tried!!!
First of all, thanks for the support people; I won\'t embarrass you, because I\'m just that kind of guy.
I am realistic that I\'ve caused a stir with my response to comments directed at HaywardRotarys generous effort to advertise my glass sunroof panels. That was unintentional. I thought in my sincerity that people would think it was a bargain. I would have been prepared to pay a lot more than three hundred, and I definitely am short of a few quid...
Several things have been sold (already I hear you cheer), subject to satisfactory collection & payment, I hasten to add.
Something to explain. I\'m currently quite disabled with a shoulder injury and awaiting surgery, which makes getting to most of my stuff a pretty major ordeal. I was initially just "testing the water", if you like, with the glass sunroofs. Anyway, I\'m kind of committed now, and I did that to myself, so I only have myself to blame. It\'s all got to go anyway, and what doesn\'t sell will be offered for free, and anything left over will go in a skip. That\'s the way it has to be.
I\'ve also got a Black \'85 with tax & mot looking for a good home. Open to any sensible offers. Dent in n/s wing, lacquer lifting, rotten n/s sill, n/s/f wheel bearing beginning to go, although I\'ll probably do that. Good mechanically... Only owned it a couple of years as a run-around. Very Immaculate interior. Drive away & expect no problems... Upon observation, all the obvious restoration has been done, but under the carpets, you see that it will need attention again in the future. That said, it will last a fair while as yet, left as it is! In summary, it\'s a tad untidy, but mechanically very good. A good waxing makes it look stunning from only 10feet away, so it\'s not that bad.
Regarding Ian65. I truly don\'t understand your aggression, but peace and love man.
As for the emails, Jeremey/Matt or whatever: Two email addresses does make you look like two people, so well done, but one IP address makes you look like one person. Sort yourself out... I\'m selling some old car parts, not murdering little old ladies. Our country is at war, sign up if you want to fight.
Finally to Clive and all other members; I would like to apologise for encouraging an otherwise unnecesary conversation to escalate. Sorry.
Anyway, I\'m sure that me and my sunroofs have caused enough of a stir.
I shouldn\'t have looked back, and won\'t be looking again! Until tomorrow... Maybe... probably...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 12, 2010, 06:17:00 PM
Good Lord, I\'ve been walking in the Dales for a couple of days and it\'s all gone Titx\'s Up.
When I\'m unduly aggressive with some one my wife brings me down to earth by saying I\'ve been \'ungracious\'. She\'s quite right of course and it really hurt\'s me when she says it.
There\'s quite a bit of ungracious posting gone on here and I for one think that\'s sad. Ian, Russells post above is as nice as it gets and I hope you can reciprocate as only a true rotary fan can....
Jinx, please don\'t drop us...your words and wit are something else and we need them.
Russell....the lads have actually got restless, like lions not been fed, simply because they\'ve had very few new FB discoveries over the last week or so. What\'s this Black \'85, Do we know about it, What\'s it\'s Reg mate?....
Com\'on guys, we\'re all grown ups on here. I think we can shake hands on this and agree that, as usual there are 2 viewpoints here. Not worth getting all aggro\'ed up about.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on August 12, 2010, 06:38:56 PM
I think that it\'s time to draw a line under this sorry matter. A regular visitors to the 1st gen section know, this isn\'t typical of the type of threads we usually have on here. It genuinely is a friendly place to be. I don\'t intend to perpetuate a slanging match on the clubs open internet forum as that will benefit no one, especially the club and it\'s forum which is a great asset for everyone to enjoy. I do feel very strongly about the prices some vendors are charging for 2nd hand parts and I would be happy to give my reasons via a PM or email, both of which are readily available, but as far as I am now concerned, we\'ve all had our say and that should be the end of it on the open forum. Russell, as far as I am concerned the matter is done and dusted. If you want to participate on the forum, which I\'m sure you would enjoy, I can assure you that my attitude towards you won\'t be any different than it is to anyone else.... we all get on great on here which is why we all stick around. If you feel it isn\'t for you then hey, it\'s a free world.
Let\'s all start again shall we?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 12, 2010, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: ossie747;709800
Quote from: David Nock;708439Don\'t shoot the messenger if it turns out to be no good, but this Gold Elford was for sale near Wembly a few times in 2009 and 2010. It has been standing for a few years. (Haven\'t all the FB\'s?). It never seemed to make its reserve.....which wasn\'t that much L18M. The seller was called Ted and he sounded OK to me. I still have his contact details if you\'re interested in a project. BUT WARNING, THIS COULD BE A MONEY PIT WAITING FOR SOME POOR SOUL TO FALL INTO??[/quote
David, you know if anything came of the gold Elford?
I rang the seller Ted, and left an answerphone message,but he\'s not got back to me. I think the car\'s still there but I don\'t know if anyone else has had better luck than me.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 12, 2010, 06:53:38 PM
Ian, What do you do for a living? Regards Carl
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 12, 2010, 06:55:52 PM
Quote from: gnj37;709997David check out web site rally.i.e. classifies fb rally car. Have you got the reg also anyone a spare 30 grand ?
Hi there G. How\'s the car coming along? Any pics or progress updates?
Thanks, I\'ve seen the car now on the Rally site and no I didn\'t have it. It is really strange this, how few Series 1 cars there are and all the 3 Roadgoing ones seem to be in Ireland.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 12, 2010, 07:20:46 PM
It\'s up to the vendor what prices he sets. It\'s up to the buyer what their prepared to pay. simples..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: manrotor on August 12, 2010, 11:17:14 PM
Ian65: My intention initially was to tactfully email you, but the email link on your website doesn\'t work, so I used this website!
David Nock: Yeah, I\'ve seen you a few times. We got talking, more than once, at Jimmys and Billing Aquadrome I think. I had a black TII, or a Black \'85. I remember you as being a nice chap, and I\'m certain that your wise-wife was with you? A very pleasant lady as I recall. Wanna buy a glass sunroof?
The one for sale is C822 CYP - lived it\'s life Romford way I believe. I bought it following an ebay ad\' - did a deal to "end auction early".
Russ
Russ7219@googlemail.com (Russ7219@googlemail.com)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on August 13, 2010, 10:22:25 AM
Quote from: David Nock;710381Hi there G. How\'s the car coming along? Any pics or progress updates?
Thanks, I\'ve seen the car now on the Rally site and no I didn\'t have it. It is really strange this, how few Series 1 cars there are and all the 3 Roadgoing ones seem to be in Ireland.
Fine work starting to cool down now so i will be able to spend some time at the car got a few bits i was missing for my ida from Mazdatrix what a nice bunch of people they are a week for delivery. Away to Ibiza on holidays now get hand dirty when i get back
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 13, 2010, 12:17:49 PM
Quote from: manrotor;710432David Nock: Yeah, I\'ve seen you a few times. We got talking, more than once, at Jimmys and Billing Aquadrome I think. I had a black TII, or a Black \'85. I remember you as being a nice chap, and I\'m certain that your wise-wife was with you? A very pleasant lady as I recall. Wanna buy a glass sunroof?
The one for sale is C822 CYP - lived it\'s life Romford way I believe. I bought it following an ebay ad\' - did a deal to "end auction early".
Hi Russ...Might have been another nice chap with wise-wife you met, \'cos we\'ve never been that far from home. But yes, I do really want a glass sunroof. When Carl at Hayward South had the £250 one I did try to do a back - door deal with Steve, up here at Hayward North in Doncaster. I think I offered £150 for it but before I could blink it had gone for the £250 price tag.
So that straddles the fence a bit I think. Carl had a price which was supported by a quick sale, I had my top price limit which didn\'t buy the roof. It\'s as Syebba (Stu) says above - simples. But I\'ll keep watching out for your next offering with interest.
C822, Yes, I had that logged from it\'s appearance on ebay that time.....good to know where it went to.
For good measure I\'ll include your email on a list of 1st Gen spares available to people who are seeking parts. I trust that\'s OK.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on August 13, 2010, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: David Nock;710375
Quote from: ossie747;709800I rang the seller Ted, and left an answerphone message,but he\'s not got back to me. I think the car\'s still there but I don\'t know if anyone else has had better luck than me.
David would you mind e-mailing Teds details so that I may have a go.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 13, 2010, 05:56:12 PM
Will do Paul.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on August 15, 2010, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;708385I\'ll be at RS7 with my FB I just need a convoy partner or two for security in numbers! Am travelling from north dorset if anyone is interested in sorting something out.
Hi Tim I will be heading up from Southampton area, which way are you planning to go.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 15, 2010, 10:54:14 PM
Quote from: daverey;710948Hi Tim I will be heading up from Southampton area, which way are you planning to go.
Hello mate-I normally go up the A303, A34 route but don\'t mind diverting to meet up. Which way would you go from down there?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on August 16, 2010, 07:53:41 AM
I\'ll be heading up from Sussex...could meet somewhere on the way?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 16, 2010, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: Marcrs;710976I\'ll be heading up from Sussex...could meet somewhere on the way?
What route do you take buddy?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on August 16, 2010, 05:36:12 PM
er...don\'t know...just sort of head that way :)
A27, M23, M25, M1?
or A21, and then anti-clockwise round the 25 to the M1
Be leaving at 5ish I guess, want to be there early :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 16, 2010, 05:39:08 PM
Just appeared on Pistonheads.
Top price but looks the business.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: HaywardRotary on August 16, 2010, 05:44:39 PM
Have sent you a PM David with some vehicles for your records. Regards Carl
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 16, 2010, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: David Nock;711124Just appeared on Pistonheads.
Top price but looks the business.
I dont think that is dear, if its as good as it looks I think its worth more, I bet you or I would not sell ours for that sort of money.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 16, 2010, 07:52:11 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;711133I dont think that is dear, if its as good as it looks I think its worth more, I bet you or I would not sell ours for that sort of money.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1933016.htm
£2.5k for a minter,is worth every penny,a quality respray would cost that alone,then theres the welding,filling,mechanics etc.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 16, 2010, 07:58:54 PM
Whose is this,i will give you lots of money,just give me your bank sort code & account nos,& i will overflow your account with £2500. If i wait a few more years before i buy,your car will be older,so it will be worth less,am i right?:Giggle ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 16, 2010, 08:16:03 PM
Good try Delboy, But I would not sell for 3 times that .........
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 16, 2010, 08:42:25 PM
Oh,ok,i respect you for holding out for the right price.
What about my previous offer & my very last Rolo then?:Giggle
Seriously if youre an FB enthusiast & you have the funds,always get the best example you can afford,usually always costs less in the long run.
If your handy with welders & filler & mechanics/spraying etc & you enjoy it,thats a different matter. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 16, 2010, 08:57:20 PM
(http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss30/d_i_ball/P1000549.jpg)Thanks for the advice Stu, buy I prefer to buy them new and just keep them that way .................In saying this one was a few years old when I got it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 16, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
Quote from: David Nock;708873
Quote from: Ian65;699479Back on Pistonheads. Same price £1195.
The orange RX7 Looks like it sold on Ebay for £575
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 16, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on August 16, 2010, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;710954Hello mate-I normally go up the A303, A34 route but don\'t mind diverting to meet up. Which way would you go from down there?
Hi Tim I would be travelling up the M3 to Winchester and then on to the A34 etc, so would be on same route. However I have found out today that the earliest I can get away will be about 8.30 so you may be well on your way by then. Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 16, 2010, 10:08:45 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-MAZDA-RX7-VERY-LOW-MILEAGE-CUSTOM-ALLOY-RIMS-/260648842047?pt=Automobiles_UK link £1500,havent seen that colour before,is it standard?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 16, 2010, 10:17:08 PM
12a engine & box,£250 london area,out of B reg s3.
cuh, and to think, I gave one away! :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 17, 2010, 07:48:57 AM
Its not been sold yet.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 17, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;711133I dont think that is dear, if its as good as it looks I think its worth more, I bet you or I would not sell ours for that sort of money.
You\'re right of course Dibs, I just wanted to indicate that the price was more than we\'ve become accustomed to lately. It\'s not top price really, just top end of middle. It did take my eye though and I would certainly be scooting over to Cheshire if I was in the market. :3gears-rh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 17, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;711125Have sent you a PM David with some vehicles for your records. Regards Carl
Thanks Carl, Noted and Replying.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 17, 2010, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: syebba;711213http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1982-MAZDA-RX7-VERY-LOW-MILEAGE-CUSTOM-ALLOY-RIMS-/260648842047?pt=Automobiles_UK link £1500,havent seen that colour before,is it standard?
I think it\'s standard white Stu, Just the lighting in the 1st pic?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 17, 2010, 12:35:37 PM
Quote from: David Nock;711287You\'re right of course Dibs, I just wanted to indicate that the price was more than we\'ve become accustomed to lately. It\'s not top price really, just top end of middle. It did take my eye though and I would certainly be scooting over to Cheshire if I was in the market. :3gears-rh
Thats what I was thinking, sometimes I wish I had more space.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on August 17, 2010, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;711299Thats what I was thinking, sometimes I wish I had more space.
Well i\'m sure i could give u more space:Giggle ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 18, 2010, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: daverey;711211Hi Tim I would be travelling up the M3 to Winchester and then on to the A34 etc, so would be on same route. However I have found out today that the earliest I can get away will be about 8.30 so you may be well on your way by then. Dave.
Fair enough Dave-like you said I\'ll hopefully be fairly close to the pod by then. Just meet up there then!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 18, 2010, 05:11:57 PM
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On Pistonheads-£2500!
In Cheshire-so thats three gold series 2\'s in existence!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: rossonza on August 18, 2010, 06:21:06 PM
YAY for gold!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on August 18, 2010, 10:48:52 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;711584Fair enough Dave-like you said I\'ll hopefully be fairly close to the pod by then. Just meet up there then!
Looking forward to being there will look out for you when I arrive.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 19, 2010, 09:41:44 PM
Thanks Tim, Stu....Gone straight into \'Scrappers\' file I\'m afraid. At least Weatherleys (Sellers) have been straight about it...they did say it\'s rusty. :2Confused
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 20, 2010, 11:36:07 AM
Quote from: syebba;711842An interesting case for Inspector Nock:rolleyes:
I know, and I\'ve been on the case. Interrogation methods not producing the desired results though. :spank
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 20, 2010, 11:38:29 AM
Would like to see some pics of the Elford ...............
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 20, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
A797 BFS for sale in Lothian on pistonheads, had some work done on it including an Elford turbo fitted.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1982613.htm
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on August 20, 2010, 02:19:27 PM
Good find Dibs, there\'s alot of S2\'s surfacing at the moment.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on August 20, 2010, 02:42:39 PM
Yes the funny thing is I was once told that the last year of the series 3 (85) that there were only some 120 odd sold, I don\'t know how true that is, but it would appear that a good few of those are still about.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on August 20, 2010, 04:13:48 PM
Found this on autotrader not sure if anyone has already posted it. No pics unfortunately. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201029363843971/sort/priceasc/usedcars/model/rx7/make/mazda/page/1/postcode/me88nt/radius/1500?logcode=p
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 20, 2010, 05:09:27 PM
Quote from: ossie747;711949Found this on autotrader not sure if anyone has already posted it. No pics unfortunately.
Yes, thanks Paul. Already noted as best as I can but no Reg or Pics. R.C. Woods (Dealers) is in Hounslow. :wave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 20, 2010, 05:22:13 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;711938Yes the funny thing is I was once told that the last year of the series 3 (85) that there were only some 120 odd sold, I don\'t know how true that is, but it would appear that a good few of those are still about.
Latest Totals for 1st Gens if anyone is interested:
Series 3.......................47........................83.........................19
Series 2........................22........................38..........................6
Series 1.........................4.........................13..........................3
Where \'Unknown\' means reasonably certain there\'s a car somewhere but No Reg, so cannot assess road going or not.
And totals include Eire, where 3 of the 4 road/track S1\'s live.
Anyone want a Rough Location guide to all the above (nothing confidential as usual) - please let me know with an e mail address. (Excel file which doesn\'t post up here ).
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Post by: syebba on August 20, 2010, 05:47:49 PM
Inspector Nock, Is your list increasing or decreasing with time? Seem to be finding a lot of new ones. ta stu.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 20, 2010, 06:25:20 PM
Increasing this year Stu, List was 187 total in January, Now 235 total.
It seems very variable though, some months ziltch, then there\'s a glut all at once.
It will be fascinating to see if there\'s a peak, after which it goes down and down as cars are scrapped. Interestingly, the road/track cars are not going up very much, most of the increase since Jan has been SORN cars. (In fact there are 2 less road going S3\'s than there were in January, even after adjusting for summer-running only cars. S2\'s on the other hand have been turning up quite a lot in road going form).
All very complicated, I\'m looking for patterns but don\'t really see \'em.
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Post by: syebba on August 21, 2010, 08:26:16 PM
Numbers should peak once youve got most of em,say another 2 years,then there should be a decline due to scrappers,well thats the/my theory anyway. ta stu..
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Post by: manrotor on August 22, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: David Nock;710501Hi Russ...Might have been another nice chap with wise-wife you met, \'cos we\'ve never been that far from home. But yes, I do really want a glass sunroof. When Carl at Hayward South had the £250 one I did try to do a back - door deal with Steve, up here at Hayward North in Doncaster. I think I offered £150 for it but before I could blink it had gone for the £250 price tag.
So that straddles the fence a bit I think. Carl had a price which was supported by a quick sale, I had my top price limit which didn\'t buy the roof. It\'s as Syebba (Stu) says above - simples. But I\'ll keep watching out for your next offering with interest.
C822, Yes, I had that logged from it\'s appearance on ebay that time.....good to know where it went to.
For good measure I\'ll include your email on a list of 1st Gen spares available to people who are seeking parts. I trust that\'s OK.
Dave
Thanks Dave, I\'d be grateful to you for including me as a potential supplier...
I only just saw your post, so sorry for the slack response!
I\'ll be selling the car very soon now, so I\'m sure you\'ll see it appear on ebay. If it doesn\'t sell, I\'ll have even more spares to sell!!!
I\'ve actually sold a reasonable amount already, but the now infamous moonroofs are still available...
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Post by: johnnyboy on August 24, 2010, 09:53:32 AM
Have you got ALJ 535 Y in your list? Blue 1982 Elford Turbo?
I own it - in Tardebigge, between Bromsgrove and Redditch.
Its been off the road on a SORN for a couple of years, and I am now having a go at getting it through an MOT...
John :guinness
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Post by: A7RXY on August 24, 2010, 10:15:57 AM
John, Good luck with your MOT and wellcome, nice to see another Elford being put back on the road, some pics please. I\'m sure Dave will be along soon, he is our keeper of records.
Dibs
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Post by: myatt1972 on August 24, 2010, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;712683Have you got ALJ 535 Y in your list? Blue 1982 Elford Turbo?
I own it - in Tardebigge, between Bromsgrove and Redditch.
Its been off the road on a SORN for a couple of years, and I am now having a go at getting it through an MOT...
John :guinness
Welcome John, Hope the mot goes well, I know Tardebigge quite well as I work for Anglo Welsh narrowboat holidays and we have a base there. I suspect Ian65 will be in touch with you soon as he is doing an elford conversion, I also have an elford set up but its on the garage floor. Keep us posted, would love to see some pics. Keith...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 24, 2010, 11:42:10 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;712683Have you got ALJ 535 Y in your list? Blue 1982 Elford Turbo?
I own it - in Tardebigge, between Bromsgrove and Redditch.
Its been off the road on a SORN for a couple of years, and I am now having a go at getting it through an MOT...
John :guinness
Hi John and welcome.
I hadn\'t got ALJ so thanks very much. You\'ve done all my work for me with your post, all except type it into the Spreadsheet, so life is deffo getting easier.
I\'m a bog standard street running man, so limited knowledge of Elfords....As said Ian is heavily into them at the moment.
Lots of help, requests for help, fun and interest on here. It\'s a nice forum. :WaveBye
Dave
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Post by: captainbizzaro on August 24, 2010, 11:43:16 AM
Hi John,
Like said before welcome too the forum and keep us posted! Pictures would be great.
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Post by: syebba on August 24, 2010, 05:03:56 PM
Welcome John. If you need any hinderance with your FB,ask me!:Thumbs-up
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 25, 2010, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: Ian65;690491C181KHR on ebay - was in Wolverhampton...
Now on ebay again but in Sheffield. Been bought and put up for sale once more. Getting closer.......
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Post by: Steve-A on August 25, 2010, 04:56:42 PM
Jonnyboy: RossOnza, a member here, is working to put an FB back on the road also. He is from just up the road from you in Bromsgrove. Might be a good opportunity to share notes!
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Post by: A7RXY on August 27, 2010, 08:15:16 PM
Quote from: David Nock;713057Now on ebay again but in Sheffield. Been bought and put up for sale once more. Getting closer.......
Bidding stopped early on this one, wonder what happened there.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 28, 2010, 11:26:49 AM
Hmmm...... yes I wonder??
On another bodyshop note, I\'ll mention that Rxmotors (Tim)....(rxmotorsuk on ebay community) are selling a 1st Gen TWR (copy) Rear Spoiler and a pair of Elford Side Skirts...both on the bay.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 30, 2010, 12:21:44 PM
Andy has told me he is going to break his S2...
Car has not been on the road since \'97 and it seems the previous owner was going to do an Elford conversion. This engine turns over but Andy has not heard it run.
It also seems there is a spare Elford (parts not engine??)some Sonic wheels and another spare engine/gearbox?
Lorra lorra filler though (bog for our NZ members)
Contact Andy on 07966773304. Also have his e mail if required.
Thanks mate.....Dave
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Post by: captainbizzaro on August 30, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
FMOC there for grabs if it doesn\'t leak, I wonder if Ian is still after one. I\'m no expert but I don\'t think the engine will run with the HT leads wrapped around the dizzy like that!:Giggle
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 31, 2010, 06:45:24 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;713900FMOC there for grabs if it doesn\'t leak, I wonder if Ian is still after one. I\'m no expert but I don\'t think the engine will run with the HT leads wrapped around the dizzy like that!:Giggle
Mimicky type voice now...."I\'m no expert" ......You bareface liar Tim....How then did you diagnose a faulty leading coil on Ian\'s machine within a few microseconds?....Beat me to the punch there all right....:cheers
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Post by: captainbizzaro on August 31, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
Quote from: David Nock;714129Mimicky type voice now...."I\'m no expert" ......You bareface liar Tim....How then did you diagnose a faulty leading coil on Ian\'s machine within a few microseconds?....Beat me to the punch there all right....:cheers
I think thats what is known in the business as a "jammy guess" Dave.:D
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Post by: Ian65 on August 31, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
http://carandclassic.co.uk/car/C178984/
http://www.mobiya.co.uk/view/jwpjdaga
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 01, 2010, 12:24:34 PM
Thanks Ian, the top one is Stu\'s in Staffordshire. Nice looking car that one.
The bottom one is in Fife, don\'t think the Ad tells you that. Also the 25 years old rule (then it\'s free Tax) doesn\'t apply any more but I think we all know that on here?
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Post by: A7RXY on September 01, 2010, 12:46:58 PM
Your right David it ended in 1998, but then not all of us are up todate with the latest info. ............:Giggle
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Post by: L18M on September 01, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
i know this does not go here but i know some of you are in the south west area. fancy coming along to this? http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65988
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 03, 2010, 12:02:29 PM
Away for the next couple of weeks from tomorrow guys......no computer.....:2eek......:2eek......:2eek
Please, please keep a note on here of what\'s coming and going on the sales pitches...
Ta Dave. :cool
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Post by: A7RXY on September 03, 2010, 01:36:14 PM
Enjoy yourself where are you going ? I\'m off to Greece next week ...............
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 03, 2010, 06:37:29 PM
North Cyprus Dibs, about the 10th visit there, we love it.
Bye Now...........signing off...........
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 04, 2010, 09:19:51 PM
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2036928.htm
In Warwickshire-no reg though.
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Post by: Ian65 on September 04, 2010, 09:35:59 PM
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Post by: A7RXY on September 05, 2010, 10:29:29 AM
Shame about the paint match on the front wings.
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Post by: shaunwil on September 05, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
Are prices that strong ?
Shaun
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Post by: RamoNZ on September 06, 2010, 11:07:41 PM
Thought you guys might want to know of the fate of one FB that left the UK to start a new life in NZ.
It was in pretty good condition to begin with, but NZ compliance panicked at the sight of underseal peeling from the salted roads and apparently there was a dodgy repair done previously on the inner rear arches that I didnt see. So, NZ$3000 later and a full professional underseal/repair job it is good as new. Add to that a new windscreen NZ$500 (The \'Autoglass\' equivalent have these in stock) and a new set of front discs and pads NZ$250 in VAT/Labour (Bargain!) plus all the normal costs etc.. and he is now living in Auckland with a friend!
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Post by: shaunwil on September 07, 2010, 05:01:02 PM
Lovely :D
Shaun
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 07, 2010, 10:40:48 PM
Wish my garage looked like that!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 09, 2010, 01:11:17 PM
What - the size of the garage or the contents? Me - I\'d like both. :mmmm
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Post by: daverey on September 13, 2010, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: David Nock;714630Away for the next couple of weeks from tomorrow guys......no computer.....:2eek......:2eek......:2eek
Please, please keep a note on here of what\'s coming and going on the sales pitches...
Ta Dave. :cool
Couple of cars that you may be interested in Dave.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-RX7-/320589968963?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa4a6b643 In Cornwall
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-RX7-series-1-spares-brave-repairs-/130431191379?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e5e4e0953 In Leicestershire
Dave.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 19, 2010, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;715135Thought you guys might want to know of the fate of one FB that left the UK to start a new life in NZ.
It was in pretty good condition to begin with, but NZ compliance panicked at the sight of underseal peeling from the salted roads and apparently there was a dodgy repair done previously on the inner rear arches that I didnt see. So, NZ$3000 later and a full professional underseal/repair job it is good as new. Add to that a new windscreen NZ$500 (The \'Autoglass\' equivalent have these in stock) and a new set of front discs and pads NZ$250 in VAT/Labour (Bargain!) plus all the normal costs etc.. and he is now living in Auckland with a friend!
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Thanks Ramo, Good to see he got there OK. Was a 1 owner here as you know so should be good for years and years now. Dave.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 19, 2010, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: daverey;716198Couple of cars that you may be interested in Dave.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-RX7-/320589968963?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa4a6b643 In Cornwall
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-RX7-series-1-spares-brave-repairs-/130431191379?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e5e4e0953 In Leicestershire
Dave.
Thanks Dave, the top one was for sale in Tintagel last year....The bottom one I\'m gonna have to do some legwork for the Reg.
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Post by: Ian65 on September 20, 2010, 08:37:34 PM
A647 HMY on ebay
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Post by: rei99 on September 21, 2010, 08:31:28 AM
Sunday I was in France, I\'ve found an Elford Turbo there RHD with french plates. Photo: http://picasaweb.google.com/davide.bologna/ElfordTurbo?feat=flashslideshow#5518922338086924466 I tryed to take back home, but brakes were broken and engine had some problem, idle neex fix and often engine doesn\'t spin up. I\'m searching for a trailer...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 21, 2010, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: Ian65;708504here\'s the sp on elfords... very very rare cars now.
Good Find.....Is it this car Davide? RHD as well I think.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 21, 2010, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: Ian65;717228A647 HMY on ebay
Thanks Ian....2.9 V6 Ford Engine in it.
I\'ve put it in the Register as unlicenced but probably a future runner as some young buck in the valleys will likely fancy it as a talking car....\'Hello Michael.....Buy Me\'. Lot of work required though.
Dave
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Post by: rei99 on September 21, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Hi David, the car is this. But the TLC that she need, them are much more :( I must ask in the other post what problem maybe she had...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 21, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
There is an email address in the previous link. Yvette. Is that who you talked to already?
I wonder what it\'s English Registration was? Are there any papers to say??
David.
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Post by: rei99 on September 21, 2010, 05:26:50 PM
She\'s the Mrs. who sell the car in France. If I could came back to take it, I will ask to her if there\'s some UK paper ok? But it\'s hard, car had rust, the front spoiler Elford broken and fixed not too well, and the car had the other problems... I\'m searching for and Elford Turbo kit and put them on a LHD car. It\'s very good kit, car is fast and more linear than my Black with 13B/Holly.
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Post by: A7RXY on September 23, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
David have you seen this one on Pistonheads.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2090960.htm
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Post by: Ian65 on September 23, 2010, 04:53:48 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;717688David have you seen this one on Pistonheads.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2090960.htm
There\'s a feature on this car on page 175 of the ebook.... looked very nice in the mag in 1998.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 23, 2010, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;717688David have you seen this one on Pistonheads.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2090960.htm
Good thanks Dibs/Ian
It was a known car but in an unknown location - now it\'s entered as Hertfordshire.
Dave
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Post by: Ian65 on September 24, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
C147 TMX on ebay
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 24, 2010, 05:15:27 PM
Quote from: Ian65;717965C147 TMX on ebay
Good to see some great examples surfacing....
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Post by: myatt1972 on September 24, 2010, 07:09:50 PM
Quote from: Ian65;717965C147 TMX on ebay
Nice looking car that and my colour to! If she hadnt got that bloody mini we could of had his & hers.
Keith...
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Post by: syebba on September 24, 2010, 07:42:23 PM
on ebay,listed as a beast & a classic with 2.9v6 ford engine.:2Rolleyes
In the Welsh Valleys boyo.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 25, 2010, 11:51:40 PM
Tis a shame about the conversation \'cause it really does look to be in reasonable condition. Only for the fact that I already have my next project, I\'d be seriously considering buying it and putting a 12a back in.
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Post by: Ian65 on September 26, 2010, 08:17:59 AM
Quote from: CHC;718206 I\'d be seriously considering buying it and putting a 12a back in.
it\'d be the only thing to do with it really... to me, the heart and soul of the RX7 is the engine, take that out and you\'ve got.......well, I dunno what you\'ve got really. If you want a Cologne V6 in a car, buy a Sierra or a Capri.
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Post by: syebba on September 26, 2010, 09:09:19 AM
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 26, 2010, 08:25:10 PM
Full agreement with you there Ian the two were made for each other. It wouldn\'t look as good as your\'s though even when finished - and I agree with David too, it still looked the Dogs Dangly bits when hitching a lift.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 26, 2010, 08:29:34 PM
Dave, my interior came out of Stus\' RX7 that he\'s selling - gives you an idea as to the finish in his rex, definitely a top guy - I\'m still in touch with him. Incidentally I believe he still has some RX7 spares left.
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Post by: rx-turbo on September 26, 2010, 09:40:28 PM
Hi All, I thought you might like to know about my 1st gens, some of you might remember them from the summer meets at Jimmy\'s they all made the trip there at one time or other from North Cornwall,
EMY317V, a s1 that is metallic blue, shes not on the road or sorn as she was last used before the dreaded sorn came into effect but is safely tucked up in a barn ready for my lottery win, she ran perfectly when put away but needed some tidying.
RDD474, a s2 in metallic burgandy, with an air brushed panther on the bonnet and a Richard Grant body kit on it, currently sorned, last on the road in 2006 when I took the reg off and the original FTT785Y went back on. Shes in excellent condition with around 60k on the clock and should be no problem returning to service.
B247XDV, a s3 Elford Turbo in black, sorned again but tucked up nicely in great condition waiting for the kids to no longer be a drain on my time and finances. think shes got around 80k on the clock, the front bumper/skirt came of a metallic green Elford that Jimmys wife Lynn drove till he broke it for parts, my Elford had a TWR front when I bought it after the original was damaged.
FEL700V, was an s1 I had for parts but now just about disintergrated to nothing!
Not an s1 but also have a 90 convertable that came from Jimmy, reg\'d RXI6223 at the time but sadly sorned too, needs a new hood and a wheel refurb but ready to go then.
Unfortunatly can\'t post pics or a link at the moment. it\'s great to see there are still some s1\'s about, I\'ve not seen one on the road in cornwall in at least 5 years....obviously I don\'t get enough anymore!
Rob
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Post by: Ian65 on September 26, 2010, 09:50:39 PM
Welcome to the forum Rob.... sounds like a great collection of cars you have there! Try to put some pictures up sometime, I\'d love to see them.
Ian
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 26, 2010, 10:14:42 PM
Hi Rob, thats quite a collection! As Ian said and I\'m sure will be echoed by everyone GET SOME PICTURES UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and welcome:WaveBye
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Post by: rx-turbo on September 26, 2010, 10:44:35 PM
Thanks for the welcome, I cant post pics here but I\'ve send a pic of one of the cars to Ians website if you\'d like to post it for me. Rob
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 26, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: rx-turbo;718343Thanks for the welcome, I cant post pics here but I\'ve send a pic of one of the cars to Ians website if you\'d like to post it for me. Rob
Awesome-do you have any plans for the 2nd gen?
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Post by: rx-turbo on September 26, 2010, 11:13:13 PM
I went on a bit of a buying spree on e bay and bought all sorts of stuff for the vert, I got inlet manifold with nos ports a knightsports fuel computer and a box full of other goodies that I cant remember what now, but again another project for the future
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Post by: syebba on September 27, 2010, 04:13:55 AM
Ah,the fb with the panther on it,hmm,i\'ll never forget that. Welcome like to see the S1 sa22.
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Post by: Ian65 on September 27, 2010, 06:47:57 AM
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Post by: syebba on September 27, 2010, 07:03:35 AM
Blimey another fb with a cat on it! I thought it was the fb with the tiger airbrushed all over it,i posted up around june 2010.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 27, 2010, 10:12:53 AM
Blimy Rob, what a collection...wow, quite unexpected for a Monday morning thanks very much.
I\'m off to the dentist now, broke my teeth on that lot you\'ve got....
See you\'se all later.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 27, 2010, 08:27:00 PM
Hi Rob & welcome. Great collection of fillies there - just got to get launching those photographs as you\'ve got us drooling for more now. What a shame to be off the road, can\'t you try for just one next year? Cliff :cheers
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Post by: Ian65 on September 27, 2010, 09:52:06 PM
Strong money for a 1st gen, off road for 10 years, missing its engine and needing work. A project for someone.... wonder if a rotary will go back in it?
.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 28, 2010, 01:44:18 PM
Ye have been watching it - something not quite right about it though. Owner said 80/81 but spoiler only came along with the series 2 and also \'A\' plated (1984 me thinks)? If the body condition is as good as implied I would have gone to those figures for sure (my wife keeps muttering something about having a good but don\'t know what she\'s on about). Surely a rotary has to go back into it!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 28, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Think it\'s come in from somewhere else quite early in it\'s life. DVLA says 1984 car but 1st Reg in early 1985. The \'A\' fits with 1984. Also it had S3 wheels on ebay? Again ties it to 1984/85.
Somehow it\'s got something this car.....interesting lot for a 1st time buyer?
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Post by: Ian65 on September 28, 2010, 10:36:08 PM
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 28, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
What about the latest edition to eBay - £1900, one lady owner with 54K and mainly kept in garage! Despite the bruising on the front nearside and alittle on trhe rear, it\'s a very nice looking motor. Trouble is - will if fetch it\'s asking price?
:mmmm
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 28, 2010, 10:43:08 PM
Very nice Ian and a querky reg too! 1977 - must be one of the 1st cars then?
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Post by: Ian65 on September 28, 2010, 10:44:59 PM
Quote from: CHC;718660What about the latest edition to eBay - £1900, one lady owner with 54K and mainly kept in garage! Despite the bruising on the front nearside and alittle on trhe rear, it\'s a very nice looking motor. Trouble is - will if fetch it\'s asking price?
:mmmm
it looks very nice doesn\'t it? Given the prices some ropey looking examples have fetched recently, I\'d say its well worth the money. Mind you, anything can look good in a photo, be interesting to get the views of someone who\'s actually seen it.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 28, 2010, 11:13:12 PM
Sure does Ian but I think the Irish one has the edge, could just be the colour or possibly the fact it\'s an SA perhaps - silly bids are going in already!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 28, 2010, 11:16:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;718606Think it\'s come in from somewhere else quite early in it\'s life. DVLA says 1984 car but 1st Reg in early 1985. The \'A\' fits with 1984. Also it had S3 wheels on ebay? Again ties it to 1984/85.
Somehow it\'s got something this car.....interesting lot for a 1st time buyer?
Looking at the Irish rex the front bumpers look quite similar....hmmmm, may be it came over from Ireland or perhaps even the other way around? :confused:
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 28, 2010, 11:26:33 PM
That Irish one doesn\'t look like an SA I think the chap has his dates wrong. Personally I reckon she might even be an S3 as I\'d be surprised if you could get alloys like that in 4x110. Plus I think I\'m right in saying SA\'s didn\'t start production until \'79/
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Post by: rx-turbo on September 28, 2010, 11:54:49 PM
Thats a TWR front bumper, and looks like its got a factory mirror on passenger door so prob a S3, looks like a big sun roof too
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Post by: Ian65 on September 29, 2010, 06:51:54 AM
Quote from: CHC;718661Very nice Ian and a querky reg too! 1977 - must be one of the 1st cars then?
yes, that\'s a nice reg no for a RX. As Tim Says, the date\'s miles out. They didn\'t start selling these cars until 1978 in the US and 1979 over here.
Looks like an s2 or s3 to me.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 29, 2010, 12:57:54 PM
Yeh, I\'ve had this car listed for a year or two. It\'s been up for sale previously on Donedeal (Ireland Site). I\'ve got a note against it previously as a 1983 S2 but I don\'t know now where that info\'s from.....Oh Dear......Slipping
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 29, 2010, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: CHC;718660What about the latest edition to eBay - £1900, one lady owner with 54K and mainly kept in garage! Despite the bruising on the front nearside and alittle on trhe rear, it\'s a very nice looking motor. Trouble is - will if fetch it\'s asking price?
:mmmm
The Blue one in Kent Cliff? Nice looking car that one.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on September 29, 2010, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: Ian65;718692yes, that\'s a nice reg no for a RX. As Tim Says, the date\'s miles out. They didn\'t start selling these cars until 1978 in the US and 1979 over here.
Looks like an s2 or s3 to me.
I thought the age was strange as body panels give impression of later model but still - looks nice.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 30, 2010, 11:23:55 AM
Just come up on Pistonheads. £1750
Reg possibly on retention?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 30, 2010, 09:30:01 PM
Looks tidy.....not keen on the rear wing though.
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Post by: myatt1972 on September 30, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;718974Looks tidy.....not keen on the rear wing though.
Thats a TWR rear spoiler...................................Like mine :Grrr
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 30, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
Haha, no offence intended Keith.......
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Post by: myatt1972 on September 30, 2010, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;718981Haha, no offence intended Keith.......
To be honest I prefer the standard spoiler, Ive also got a TWR front bumper. Will let you off this time Tim :D
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Post by: captainbizzaro on September 30, 2010, 10:14:11 PM
It\'s weird how spoilers cause so many debates on RX7\'s compared to other marques especially in the FD camp.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 01, 2010, 12:33:54 PM
Quote from: CHC;718660What about the latest edition to eBay - £1900, one lady owner with 54K and mainly kept in garage! Despite the bruising on the front nearside and alittle on trhe rear, it\'s a very nice looking motor. Trouble is - will if fetch it\'s asking price?
:mmmm
No Bids on this one so No, not at the present time Cliff.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 02, 2010, 09:19:07 AM
Would have thought somebody might have bid on it, but is this a sign that the market place insn\'t good for us at the moment - assuming that anybody was thinking of selling that is. When you consider how few road worthy units there are and their age, why is it that they don\'t appear to be commanding a higher commercial value? :3Confused
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 02, 2010, 11:03:36 PM
Here are the latest photos of \'JAZ\' restoration. Exterior needs drivers door, small cosmetic repair to the sunroof recess and replace side mouldings. Interior requires a few small jobs to finish off. Then look at the engine - nearly there.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 02, 2010, 11:12:56 PM
Looking great Cliff-love white FB\'s. I would lose that foglight though......repositioning into one of the reverse light wells is easy peasy. Up to you though of course.:chat
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 02, 2010, 11:16:01 PM
Tell me more Tim - would be interested to hear how!
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 02, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
The foglight feed (on mine at least) ran right past the offside light cluster and I hated the daft dangly fog light so chopped the cable off at the light, pulled it back through the grommet into the boot space behind the light cluster. Then I went to RXMotors and bought a secondhand reverse light lamp holder for £3, crimped it onto the feed, painted a reverse bulb red (I believe you can buy a decent wattage lamp in red too) and hey presto.....no dangly fog light! It\'s gone through three MOT\'s now without a problem so thats good enough for me. [ATTACH]49159[/ATTACH]
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Post by: ossie747 on October 03, 2010, 02:01:45 AM
Looks great Cliff, I\'ve also got a white fb, love um. What do you use on the spoiler to keep it looking so black?
Paul
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Post by: Ian65 on October 03, 2010, 06:40:15 AM
You\'ve made a fantastic job of that Cliff, it looks superb. Love white fb\'s, especially when they are as clean as that. We\'ll all have to try to get to some meets next year in our 1st gens.... pity they all seem to be miles away though.... are there any club meets north of Santa Pod?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 03, 2010, 09:40:21 AM
Agree with you there Ian would be great to have a good meet up with as many of us as possible-unique photo opportunity too. If the weather doesn\'t look like it\'s going to improve then that\'ll be it for NEV for the year as I\'ve got another engine for him and the clock is ticking for the decent crisp mornings in the spring which cannot be missed. Plus it\'ll give me a chance to give him a freshen up on the appearance side.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 03, 2010, 11:04:46 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;719280Agree with you there Ian would be great to have a good meet up with as many of us as possible-unique photo opportunity too. If the weather doesn\'t look like it\'s going to improve then that\'ll be it for NEV for the year as I\'ve got another engine for him and the clock is ticking for the decent crisp mornings in the spring which cannot be missed. Plus it\'ll give me a chance to give him a freshen up on the appearance side.
The problem is Tim that we all live so far away from each other. If we had a meet say in the Peak district that would suit the owners north of Birmingham and would maybe tempt Dave down from the land far far away but wouldn\'t be any good to yourself or the guys from down south. It\'s hard to find a venue that suits everyone. I don\'t get to many of the main club meets because they seem to be southern based and it\'s a long ( and crap) drive from here. Perhaps the Cotswolds might be a contender?? Still a long drive for some but there\'s some lovely places for an overnight stay. Bourton on the Water maybe next spring??
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 03, 2010, 11:37:57 AM
Peak District.....45 miles away.....steady on there!!!!
Yeh, be smashing to get to somewhere that\'s sub 100miles away.
There were shows at Thoresby (Notts) that MRC used to attend years ago....also just a couple of years back there was a show at Nostell Priory, just to the west of Doncaster, but we were going off abroad at that time. Shaun went I think.
Love the car Cliff, great work. About the other, let \'em dangle as nature intended I say. And that goes for the rear foglight as well. :yes
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 03, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
If thats the Bourton-on-the-water near Cheltenham that\'s only a 2 hour drive for me, I personally don\'t mind venturing further north if it means it draws more of us there as I think I\'m in the minority as far as global position is concerned!
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Post by: Ian65 on October 03, 2010, 01:50:46 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;719294If thats the Bourton-on-the-water near Cheltenham that\'s only a 2 hour drive for me, I personally don\'t mind venturing further north if it means it draws more of us there as I think I\'m in the minority as far as global position is concerned!
perhaps we should start a thread re. a possible 1st gen get-together next year to get everyones thoughts on it. It\'d be nice to get together with everyone with their cars.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 03, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
Good plan!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 03, 2010, 01:57:36 PM
I really did think seriously about Brooklands this year but the Missus had a minor health problem so we didn\'t bother. The plans were to stop over and maybe take in some of the strange sights, ways and customs of the Natives down in that corner of the Country. :flamed ...(Waiting for it now).
Places like Benzworld, The World Garden at Lullington Castle (?) Dickens Museum at Medway, and so on.
Might try again in 2011 but of course if a Spring Jolly abroad came up we\'d let everyone down (in the sense that we\'d committed and cancelled), so best see what happens. Intend a big try at attending Brooklands though.
Edit....Posting crossed with above.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 03, 2010, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: Ian65;719303perhaps we should start a thread re. a possible 1st gen get-together next year to get everyones thoughts on it. It\'d be nice to get together with everyone with their cars.
A sort of Rally to a nice visitor area....yeh....... maybe alternative to Brooklands???
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 03, 2010, 02:03:40 PM
It\'d be great to see you at an event Dave as the King of Threads....1616 posts and counting!:god
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 03, 2010, 02:09:41 PM
Yeh, Great that...Just got \'Who Wins\' thread in the sights now; 46,000 posts!
What\'s in there? Anyone had a Look?
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Post by: Ian65 on October 03, 2010, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719307A sort of Rally to a nice visitor area....yeh....... maybe alternative to Brooklands???
that sort of thing, have a nice pub lunch and get the cars together for a few pics..... must be somewhere we all fancy going. doesn\'t need to be an official club outing, just a few mates meeting up for a pint and a chat.
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Post by: syebba on October 03, 2010, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;719308It\'d be great to see you at an event Dave as the King of Threads....1616 posts and counting!:god
Dave dose\'nt exist he\'s a cyberbot.:evillaugh
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 03, 2010, 05:45:37 PM
Flattery will get you everywhere.....
Behold ye unbelievers: :cool \'Smeeeeeeeee...
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Post by: syebba on October 03, 2010, 10:37:18 PM
I,m sure i\'ve seen that mugshot on crimewatch!:rolleyes:
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 03, 2010, 11:16:20 PM
Quote from: syebba;719378I,m sure i\'ve seen that mugshot on crimewatch!:rolleyes:
Yes I got the feeling I\'d seen that face before.....
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 03, 2010, 11:25:52 PM
Sorry guys been on collecting spree today so I\'ve missed all the chit chat. I\'m up for meets whether it be just mates or even formal outings. Agree with everyone, lets get our thinking caps on and come up with proposals so that we can work out a short list and strategy making all this talk into reality. As said, what photo opportunities this could be and if we can do it on a bi-annual or even quarterly basis perhaps we could even hop (well okay) drive around the country so that everybody has an opportunity to stay localish. Cotswolds are always a good venue, how\'s about Cheddar Gorge/Wells/Glastonbury area too. York, peak District, The Lakes, Hadrians Wall, Edinburgh why the listing could be endless. The whole point is a) We get to meet up for a get together, lunch or perhaps evening meal / overnight stays b) Excellent photo opportunities for group shots c) Advertising to others, general public, car enthusiasts what ever - come see what we\'ve got and lets show them off and be proud to do so, after all we are just a few but boy we could really put our faces on the proverbial map. Everybody has heard of the London to Brighton run, well could we start something similar?
Anyway - you can count me in, just got to get JAZ through her 1st test with me. Cliff Power to the Rotary Engine!! :cheers
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 03, 2010, 11:33:57 PM
Im up for a meet of some sort, would be great to put faces to cars. This sort of thing looks good to me
http://www.midlandsbreakfastclub.co.uk/
Keith...
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 04, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
Quote from: ossie747;719271Looks great Cliff, I\'ve also got a white fb, love um. What do you use on the spoiler to keep it looking so black?
Paul
Morning Paul, to be honest mate this is a replacement which I acquired from Tamworth during the summer - quick who said the word summer, did we miss it! As it happens I was there yesterday talking to Stu and we were discussing the very same subject. We each have always used \'Back to Black\' although Stu did iterate that to keep the spoiler in good health it should be pretreated with a solution from halfords or the like for suppleness and the \'B2B\' at least annually. Once I\'ve finished JAZ I have a spare spoiler which I shall clean and treat for future use or perhaps to sell on.
Cliff :wiggle
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Post by: gnj37 on October 04, 2010, 12:03:16 PM
Car running fine starts 1st time doing every thing it should be, but i cant get the temp,oil pressure,petrol gauges working , also the row of warning light are staying on. I have removed the rats nest and the portion of the loom that would have carried power to the original carb is disconnected from everything. Now i have by supplying power direct from the battery found some of the missing bits i.e. the oil pressure gauge but i think i may have blew a fuse some where other than the fuse box as i have lost power in that portion of the loom so who\'s the expert on electrics
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 04, 2010, 12:52:21 PM
if it were a roadside problem on a standard S3/12A, I\'d look first at something called the choke and check relay. It\'s situated on the inside of the inner wing and if that sticks the warning lights stay on. Trouble is my wiring diagrams are general and not S3 specific. The actual gauges do not seem to be linked to this relay but who knows? There are gauge connections to a voltage regulator in the instrument panel shown, which in turn seems to be fed from the instrument panel fuse in the fuse box. Relay is sort of metal can \'U\' shaped and with care it can be opened up to check the contacts inside. The fuel gauge is often \'iffy\' on these cars and problem could be at the sender....
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Post by: gnj37 on October 04, 2010, 01:36:19 PM
Cheers David i have the choke and check relay disabled i will have a better look as i can here the relay clicking in it also how many warning lights should be on before starting.
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Post by: Steve-A on October 04, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
David, just thought I\'d let you guys know the gold s2 reg ending EPH, will be transfered over to me in a few days. So it\'ll be coming to live in Malvern with me and hopefully back on the road in a few months :)
I took quite a liking to from the day I went to view it Ross before he bought it! I\'m looking forward to a new project, hoping to return it to its former glory though quite likely with a performance bias :D
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 04, 2010, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: gnj37;719441Cheers David i have the choke and check relay disabled i will have a better look as i can here the relay clicking in it also how many warning lights should be on before starting.
The full set of 6 lights come on with the ignition key. Then once you\'ve fired up (and from memory now), just the left hand handbrake light stays on \'till you set off.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 04, 2010, 05:19:41 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;719450David, just thought I\'d let you guys know the gold s2 reg ending EPH, will be transfered over to me in a few days. So it\'ll be coming to live in Malvern with me and hopefully back on the road in a few months :)
I took quite a liking to from the day I went to view it Ross before he bought it! I\'m looking forward to a new project, hoping to return it to its former glory though quite likely with a performance bias :D
Thanks V much Steve, I\'ll note it as yours.
Cheers Dave.
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Post by: syebba on October 04, 2010, 06:01:12 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 04, 2010, 06:11:21 PM
It does say "Spares or Brave Repair" Stu. Can\'t get a fairer description than that. No details available for this poor machine....cast aside like......well like a useless scrap thing.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 04, 2010, 08:12:44 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;719450David, just thought I\'d let you guys know the gold s2 reg ending EPH, will be transfered over to me in a few days. So it\'ll be coming to live in Malvern with me and hopefully back on the road in a few months :)
I took quite a liking to from the day I went to view it Ross before he bought it! I\'m looking forward to a new project, hoping to return it to its former glory though quite likely with a performance bias :D
Welcome to the joys of 1st gen ownership Steve. Looking forward to seeing what you do to this car, if your MX5 is anything to go by, it\'ll be well sorted. It\'s a shame Ross couldn\'t get it on the road, hopefully he\'ll keep the faith and buy a MOT\'d 1st gen that he can use straight away. Anything we can do to help.... just ask!
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 04, 2010, 08:29:49 PM
Been to pick up an engine today, and was shown this....... [ATTACH]49174[/ATTACH]
A190BAU.....well and truly retired S2-available for parts if anyone wants details-she resides in Worchester.
Can I just also add that I was wearing flipflops so had to suffer a fair bit to get the reg of this one as she was rather engulfed by the surrounding habitat!
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Post by: Ian65 on October 04, 2010, 08:36:34 PM
Flipflops in October?! You\'re a hard lot in Dorsetshire! I wonder if it\'s got an oil cooler on it? Is it being broken for spares Tim or sold complete for spares?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 04, 2010, 08:43:43 PM
When the sun shines Ian........
She does have an oil cooler, I did look for you but forgot to mention it. I think they would sell bits off her before she goes I\'ll PM you a phone number once I\'ve got his permission to do so. There is also an Eric Clapton cassette tape inside her if anyone is interested, along with half of the hedge you can see in the pic.:Giggle
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Post by: syebba on October 04, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
Nice find Captain,another one being engulfed by nature. ta stu..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 04, 2010, 08:59:00 PM
Engulfed is probably the best way to describe her, she\'s been there ten years so is sunk up to her non existent sills. (Which I did have a "hopeful" feel for.)
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Post by: Ian65 on October 04, 2010, 09:02:02 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;719528Engulfed is probably the best way to describe her, she\'s been there ten years so is sunk up to her non existent sills. (Which I did have a "hopeful" feel for.)
It must be in a state if the most desirable bit is an Eric Clapton cassette!
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Post by: johnnyboy on October 04, 2010, 09:03:35 PM
Hi Guys. You may remember me joining a couple of weeks ago.
Well, we are almost through the MOT... (Front disks and pads, a bit of welding, considerable fun with the emissions control until we convinced them it is old enough not to count...) and now having freed off the rear calipers I am hunting for some rear pads and then we will be away! However, you asked for some pictures. I have never done this before so I have looked at the instructions someone published last year, but no guarantees:
Tha car was an Elford show car on the Mazda stand at the 1982 motor show, hence the snazzy paint job and graphics. My wife and I saw it there but could not have afforded it at half of the price - and so were pleased to see it for sale secondhand in 1986. We were richer by then and it was cheaper by then so we bought it. And here we are...
Enjoy..
John
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Post by: syebba on October 04, 2010, 09:06:33 PM
Looks like nettles surrounding the car,did u get stung in ur flip flops clearing it?
Love the sign behind it "Taking Care Seriously".
How much of the car was visible when u 1st saw it?
It\'s like the silver fb above,over many years they just sink into the ground.
ta stu..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 04, 2010, 09:07:13 PM
Awesome mate congrats on getting her back up and running
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Post by: A7RXY on October 04, 2010, 09:08:45 PM
John looking good you have a very rare car there.
Dibs
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 04, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Quote from: syebba;719532Looks like nettles surrounding the car,did u get stung in ur flip flops clearing it?
Love the sign behind it "Taking Care Seriously".
How much of the car was visible when u 1st saw it?
It\'s like the silver fb above,over many years they just sink into the ground.
ta stu..
My legs got seriously stung but ya know, anything for Sir Nock.:D
You could see the roof and if you looked closely, the bonnet. Proper engulfed.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 04, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: Ian65;719529It must be in a state if the most desirable bit is an Eric Clapton cassette!
Haha too true.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 04, 2010, 09:13:50 PM
that\'s a lovely looking car you have there John, great history as well! If you wouldn\'t mind sending me an email address, I have a couple of questions about my own Elford conversion that you may be able to help me with. My email is ian08 at sky.com
Cheers, Ian
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Post by: syebba on October 04, 2010, 09:25:40 PM
Lovely Elford & very rare nowadays. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on October 04, 2010, 09:27:25 PM
Inspector Nock,how many Elfords left now? ta stu..
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Post by: Steve-A on October 04, 2010, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: Ian65;719513Welcome to the joys of 1st gen ownership Steve. Looking forward to seeing what you do to this car, if your MX5 is anything to go by, it\'ll be well sorted. It\'s a shame Ross couldn\'t get it on the road, hopefully he\'ll keep the faith and buy a MOT\'d 1st gen that he can use straight away. Anything we can do to help.... just ask!
Cheers Ian.
I don\'t wanna step on Ross\'s toes by saying this but basically I think he bought it when he didn\'t really need a car but liked the idea of the project, then the project turned out to be more intense than he/we* had hoped and his job has moved location so he now needs an economical car to drive around in.
I hope to get it nicely sorted. At the moment the main priorities are the welding, new brake lines and a full set of bushes. Then MOT time.
After that I\'d like to fit modern dampers with lower springs (sensible performance low NOT silly VW scene low) and a nice set of retro japanses wheels. I\'d also like to go electronic ignition and fuel injection with a pair of IDA style throttle bodies via megasquirt again :)
Tim, I got my hopes up there, then realised you typed Worchester not Worcester. Shame as Worcester\'s only 5 miles up the road!
Also I think the music taste must be an FB thing, Ross\'s s2 came with a mad old blues tape in it. I think I might have to transfer my CD collection to cassette to keep the retro stereo :P
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 04, 2010, 09:31:53 PM
Beautiful car John, thanks for posting the pics. Keith...
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Post by: syebba on October 04, 2010, 09:34:07 PM
I\'m losing track of all the new fb\'s arriving here! Hopefully their getting more appreciated & ending up in hands of enthusiasts rather than breakers. ta stu
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 04, 2010, 09:34:35 PM
Sorry Steve-my bad!
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Post by: syebba on October 04, 2010, 09:45:14 PM
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 04, 2010, 11:21:58 PM
I always considered the RX7 in light green metallic coachwork looked very dignified but am I correct in saying that there aren\'t many remaining in this shade? Over to you Detective Nock - any latest figures available?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 04, 2010, 11:27:55 PM
Very nice looking motor John and alovely paint job - a credit to you. Any interior and engine bay shots available for us to drool over? Cliff :mmmm:mmmm:mmmm
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Post by: syebba on October 05, 2010, 12:27:38 AM
@John, There was a discussion a while back if the pepperpots on Elfords were the same as those on a 2.8 capri. Don\'t suppose you\'ve noticed Wolfrace stamped on your wheels anywhere? ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on October 05, 2010, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: syebba;719575@John, There was a discussion a while back if the pepperpots on Elfords were the same as those on a 2.8 capri. Don\'t suppose you\'ve noticed Wolfrace stamped on your wheels anywhere? ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 05, 2010, 11:43:41 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;719535My legs got seriously stung but ya know, anything for Sir Nock.:D
You could see the roof and if you looked closely, the bonnet. Proper engulfed.
Tim, I\'ll get some Olive Oil and bathe your feet personally for that good work .....my hero :cheers (don\'t often click the beer smiley guys...too mean)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 05, 2010, 11:49:52 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;719530Hi Guys. You may remember me joining a couple of weeks ago.
Well, we are almost through the MOT... (Front disks and pads, a bit of welding, considerable fun with the emissions control until we convinced them it is old enough not to count...) and now having freed off the rear calipers I am hunting for some rear pads and then we will be away! However, you asked for some pictures. I have never done this before so I have looked at the instructions someone published last year, but no guarantees:
Tha car was an Elford show car on the Mazda stand at the 1982 motor show, hence the snazzy paint job and graphics. My wife and I saw it there but could not have afforded it at half of the price - and so were pleased to see it for sale secondhand in 1986. We were richer by then and it was cheaper by then so we bought it. And here we are...
Enjoy..
John
Great John...well done re the buying....and thanks for figuring the posting of pics. Chocolate Box pics aren\'t they, glorious results. :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 05, 2010, 11:52:13 AM
Quote from: syebba;719542Inspector Nock,how many Elfords left now? ta stu..
I\'ll do a review, post result tomorrow guys.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 05, 2010, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: CHC;719560I always considered the RX7 in light green metallic coachwork looked very dignified but am I correct in saying that there aren\'t many remaining in this shade? Over to you Detective Nock - any latest figures available?
Opal Green Metallic....Nice I think. Quite a few in the S3\'s from memory.
I\'ll count those as well for posting tomorrow.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 05, 2010, 01:44:45 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719482The full set of 6 lights come on with the ignition key. Then once you\'ve fired up (and from memory now), just the left hand handbrake light stays on \'till you set off.
Good lad David a local man a lot older than me has bought a 1st gen series 2 car that was in a shed locally Will find out more and get you reg gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on October 06, 2010, 12:30:13 AM
Mine are like this - ie. they have "Elford" cast into them. I used to assume they were basically a variant of old Fiesta wheels - which I remember as looking identical. Shows I don\'t know much about them I am afraid. John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on October 06, 2010, 12:44:18 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;712714Welcome John, Hope the mot goes well, I know Tardebigge quite well as I work for Anglo Welsh narrowboat holidays and we have a base there. I suspect Ian65 will be in touch with you soon as he is doing an elford conversion, I also have an elford set up but its on the garage floor. Keep us posted, would love to see some pics. Keith...
Hi there. We live about a half mile the other end of Tardebigge tunnel - just opposite the old Engine House. Give me a ring next time you are in the area and have half an hour to spare - I will make you a cup of tea... 01865 383800 and it will forward to my mobile. John
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Post by: A7RXY on October 06, 2010, 08:01:06 AM
Sold for £967.54 The reg must be worth more than that.
In the advert and in an answer to a question the seller says it\'s 1977, vintage and therefore MOT exempt. Ehhh?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 12:01:20 PM
Quote from: gnj37;719634Good lad David a local man a lot older than me has bought a 1st gen series 2 car that was in a shed locally Will find out more and get you reg gary
Yes please Gary, I would appreciate that.
Cheers Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 12:07:54 PM
Quote from: syebba;719542Inspector Nock,how many Elfords left now? ta stu..
I count the following:
Series 1......2 SORN/Project Cars
Series 2......3 Roadgoing,......6 SORN/Project Cars
Series 3......1 Roadgoing,......6 SORN/Project Cars
There are also some 13BT\'s, Garretts, TWR kitted cars, but I have only totted up cars where I am reasonably certain an Elford kit is fitted.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 06, 2010, 12:12:34 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719776In the advert and in an answer to a question the seller says it\'s 1977, vintage and therefore MOT exempt. Ehhh?
That\'s the Irish for you ..................:D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: CHC;719560I always considered the RX7 in light green metallic coachwork looked very dignified but am I correct in saying that there aren\'t many remaining in this shade? Over to you Detective Nock - any latest figures available?
Count reveals the following S3 cars are Opal Green Metallic:
Roadgoing............6 out of 47
SORN/Project........12 out of 87
Unclass (No Reg)...3 out of 20
No S2\'s or S1\'s have appeared in this colour. (That\'s 70 S2\'s and 23 S1\'s). Cheers Dave :Typing
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;719779That\'s the Irish for you ..................:D
Now then Dibs, there\'s some very clear and concise people with RX7\'s over there....I\'m sure you don\'t mean them...... Diplomat Boy speaking here.
It\'s just this cars looks nice but how can any car be MOT exempt? Is Eire different to UK?
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 06, 2010, 12:42:46 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719782Now then Dibs, there\'s some very clear and concise people with RX7\'s over there....I\'m sure you don\'t mean them...... Diplomat Boy speaking here.
It\'s just this cars looks nice but how can any car be MOT exempt? Is Eire different to UK?
Dave
Come on David would I ...............but it is being sold from Limerick .......:Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on October 06, 2010, 01:01:36 PM
Out of interest David, have you got up to date numbers of how many s1, s2 and s3 cars are on the road right now?
The data you\'ve managed to pull together, knowing the where abouts of so many cars, is really amazing.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 06, 2010, 03:29:34 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719778I count the following:
Series 1......2 SORN/Project Cars
Series 2......3 Roadgoing,......6 SORN/Project Cars
Series 3......1 Roadgoing,......6 SORN/Project Cars
There are also some 13BT\'s, Garretts, TWR kitted cars, but I have only totted up cars where I am reasonably certain an Elford kit is fitted.
Dave
Not many left then. Series 2 Elfords, 3 roadgoing,i take it that inc newby Johns Elford,or have you put that in sorn as no mot yet? Strange there\'s even fewer Series 3 Elfords,i thought they,d be more. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 05:43:53 PM
Quote from: syebba;719802Not many left then. Series 2 Elfords, 3 roadgoing,i take it that inc newby Johns Elford,or have you put that in sorn as no mot yet? Strange there\'s even fewer Series 3 Elfords,i thought they,d be more. ta stu..
Yes, in SORN Stu. John will most probably give us the nod when he\'s road going but I do a check across the board occasionally so things don\'t get missed.
I guess Elford were stronger in the early years of the 1st Gen rather than in the Series 3 years??? Any other ideas?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;719786Out of interest David, have you got up to date numbers of how many s1, s2 and s3 cars are on the road right now?
The data you\'ve managed to pull together, knowing the where abouts of so many cars, is really amazing.
No Probs Steve:
Series 3 ............Roadgoing 47.......SORN/Project 87..........Unknown/No Reg 20
Series 2.............Roadgoing 24....... SORN/Project 40.........Unknown/No Reg 6
Series 1.............Roadgoing 5..........SORN/Project 15.........Unknown/No Reg 3
That\'s as of today.....
There\'s a lot of help gone into this compilation though - people sending me emails & PM\'s, people trawling the bay and elsewhere - people getting out to talk to strangers - even now Tim\'s at death\'s door with his leggies all stung by nettles whilst I just sit here pushing buttons. But the task does suit me as I find it fascinating... Well weird or what?
Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 06, 2010, 06:26:46 PM
Is the overall trend for road going cars up or down over the last 12 months? 76 known cars seems very low
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 06, 2010, 06:28:00 PM
Well Dave you\'ve set up one of the most popular threads on the whole of mrc,not just 1st gen section.:spank
As regards Tim,he must like pain stomping into stinging nettles in flip flops & starting a major project on his Fb in the British winter,think of the last 2 we had to endure!:rolleyes:
ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719781Count reveals the following S3 cars are Opal Green Metallic:
Roadgoing............6 out of 47
SORN/Project........12 out of 87
Unclass (No Reg)...3 out of 20
No S2\'s or S1\'s have appeared in this colour. (That\'s 70 S2\'s and 23 S1\'s). Cheers Dave :Typing
So it would seem that it was solely an S3 colour with a maximum of 21 in one form or another ...... hmmmm maybe 1 day I\'ll look at picking one up if I can.
As said by many others Dave, this listing is a credit to you and your many deputies and you must be congratulated for your dedication to the cause.
Out of curiosity then, what is the most common colour for the 1st gens and secondly is there a localised area where most cars can be found ?
Cliff :cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 06, 2010, 09:35:23 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;719779That\'s the Irish for you ..................:D
I was quite taken by the reg so contacted the seller and questioned the legality for roadworthiness but he insisted that it was nct and tax exempt and didn\'t need an MOT - I cannot believe that would stick if taken to court. Not wanting to be stung I decided not to bid but regardless there just seemed something not quite right about this rex to me.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 06, 2010, 10:28:25 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 07, 2010, 06:32:58 AM
Quote from: CHC;719876I was quite taken by the reg so contacted the seller and questioned the legality for roadworthiness but he insisted that it was nct and tax exempt and didn\'t need an MOT - I cannot believe that would stick if taken to court. Not wanting to be stung I decided not to bid but regardless there just seemed something not quite right about this rex to me.
Cliff, I thought that may have been you, I had the same idear on bidding, untill I checked his feedback.
Still HID would not have approved ...................:Talking1
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 07, 2010, 10:49:28 AM
David reg is DIL 1201 silver 1980 series 1 but it will never make it to the road again pity only 55k on it stone rotten
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 07, 2010, 12:08:15 PM
Me again the fuses that are at your right knee beside bonnet opening lever aside is there any more main fuses as i have lost power to the alternator i was touching wires and must of blown one i have also checked the fuse links at ns strut tower they seem to be OK or i have i done it wrong i assume that the wire loop is the fuse and ideas gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on October 07, 2010, 09:02:03 PM
You can replace them for standard slow burn fuses (the ones that are square) instead of the cable fuses.
Can\'t believe there is only 47 S3 on the road at the minute. Amazing when you think the number at rotorstock this year !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 07, 2010, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;719734Hi there. We live about a half mile the other end of Tardebigge tunnel - just opposite the old Engine House. Give me a ring next time you are in the area and have half an hour to spare - I will make you a cup of tea... 01865 383800 and it will forward to my mobile. John
Sorry John, only just spotted this. Thats a very kind offer that I will take you up on next time Im in the area. Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 07, 2010, 11:04:20 PM
Not sure if this one is known, but in this weeks classic car weekly magazine:
Quote1986 £950 ovno Petrol 2300 engine, light green, exellent cond, 4 seater. Just fully serviced, Almost new tyres, exellent alloy wheels, 11 months MOT, contact for more details. 07846 820314, 01383 831721 Kelty Fife.
Reg blanked and no mileage but sounds a bargain! In the picture it looks more blue like mine so it must be quite light green if there was such a thing?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on October 07, 2010, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;720050Sorry John, only just spotted this. Thats a very kind offer that I will take you up on next time Im in the area. Keith...
I will look forward to it - but not next week \'cos I will be sunning myself on a greek island... Tough job I know, but somebody has to do it.
John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on October 07, 2010, 11:13:17 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719817Yes, in SORN Stu. John will most probably give us the nod when he\'s road going but I do a check across the board occasionally so things don\'t get missed.
I guess Elford were stronger in the early years of the 1st Gen rather than in the Series 3 years??? Any other ideas?
We are going for an MOT tomorrow... Wish me luck.... John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 07, 2010, 11:23:14 PM
Good Luck for tomorrow John. Are you driving to Greek Island to celerbrate?
Cliff :Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 07, 2010, 11:28:54 PM
Not on my eBay it isn\'t - am I missing something? Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on October 07, 2010, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: David Nock;719821No Probs Steve:
Series 3 ............Roadgoing 47.......SORN/Project 87..........Unknown/No Reg 20
Series 2.............Roadgoing 24....... SORN/Project 40.........Unknown/No Reg 6
Series 1.............Roadgoing 5..........SORN/Project 15.........Unknown/No Reg 3
That\'s as of today.....
There\'s a lot of help gone into this compilation though - people sending me emails & PM\'s, people trawling the bay and elsewhere - people getting out to talk to strangers - even now Tim\'s at death\'s door with his leggies all stung by nettles whilst I just sit here pushing buttons. But the task does suit me as I find it fascinating... Well weird or what?
Dave.
Can I just say "Thanks" for your efforts.
Your figures - and in fact this entire thread - have been a real pleasure to read. Thanks again. John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 07, 2010, 11:33:54 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;719919Cliff, I thought that may have been you, I had the same idear on bidding, untill I checked his feedback.
Still HID would not have approved ...................:Talking1
Mine too Dibs - must be a w***n thing. :Giggle:rollin
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on October 07, 2010, 11:42:03 PM
Quote from: CHC;720057Good Luck for tomorrow John. Are you driving to Greek Island to celerbrate?
Cliff :Giggle
Thank you for the suggestion, but I think you must be confused about the meaning of the word "island". Also I have just had to pay £45 for welding - goodness knows what the salt water would do to the poor little thing. As an aside I could mention that I did once drive to Greece (in 1976...) and I can tell you that it was a very, very long way..... John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 07, 2010, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: CHC;720059Not on my eBay it isn\'t - am I missing something? Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 08, 2010, 06:43:55 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;720054I will look forward to it - but not next week \'cos I will be sunning myself on a greek island... Tough job I know, but somebody has to do it.
John
Hi John
What Island you off to ?, As I\'m off to Rhodes the week after, as for the drive there, its one I\'ve been putting off for years........
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: syebba;720066Yes you are, in parts section.:p
Cheers for that Stu - must admit I\'ve never actually looked specifically in the parts section as I\'ve previously found everything I\'ve needed/wanted. Anyway noted and being watched as of now.
:cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;720065Thank you for the suggestion, but I think you must be confused about the meaning of the word "island". Also I have just had to pay £45 for welding - goodness knows what the salt water would do to the poor little thing. As an aside I could mention that I did once drive to Greece (in 1976...) and I can tell you that it was a very, very long way..... John
Sorry John, was only jesting, my point being your car goes for MOT today (how did you get on?) and off for holiday next week - put both together with a celebration for an MOT pass, so either the chunnel or car ferries etc; perhaps it was a little late last evening.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: Ian65;719837Is the overall trend for road going cars up or down over the last 12 months? 76 known cars seems very low
I did a run through on DVLA of every known Reg a month or so back (call it the summer list if you like) and that\'s when the known road goers were last confirmed.
In the middle of winter, when I checked it the previous time there were quite a few less roadgoing.
So the flow is up and down, summer winter with this sort of car, as you\'d expect.....the trend for all categories except unknowns is still very gently upwards though with new finds appearing roughly weekly. Unknowns are VERY slowly being put into a correct category as they get sold on and the Reg pops up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 12:52:29 PM
Quote from: CHC;719873So it would seem that it was solely an S3 colour with a maximum of 21 in one form or another ...... hmmmm maybe 1 day I\'ll look at picking one up if I can.
As said by many others Dave, this listing is a credit to you and your many deputies and you must be congratulated for your dedication to the cause.
Out of curiosity then, what is the most common colour for the 1st gens and secondly is there a localised area where most cars can be found ?
Cliff :cheers
Thanks Cliff....\'Deputies\'?....well Ian would almost certainly have launched this list if I hadn\'t beaten him to it...Plus all the other mates are really full fledged saddo Reg collectors in there own rights. They just don\'t know it yet.
Colours seem to be a fair spread across the available choices for each, with maybe Red edging it.
As for a localised area, very definitely. The 1st Gen has had a very Southern customer base with the South of England/South East having many more cars than Northern Areas. Least represented seems to be Wales. County by County it\'s thrown by \'The Dorset Massive\'. That\'s Tim White at RX motors who keeps a yard full on the stocks.:2eek
I\'m sending you the latest location list Cliff, I\'ve got your email. As always there\'s no confidential data, only location by area and a colour. Excel file precludes PM\'ing to you. Anyone else would like the October Location list just let me have an email address....dgnock at btopenworld dot com
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: gnj37;719942David reg is DIL 1201 silver 1980 series 1 but it will never make it to the road again pity only 55k on it stone rotten
Thanks Gary, Into the \'Probable Scrap Car\' Section of the listing then.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: gnj37;719952Me again the fuses that are at your right knee beside bonnet opening lever aside is there any more main fuses as i have lost power to the alternator i was touching wires and must of blown one i have also checked the fuse links at ns strut tower they seem to be OK or i have i done it wrong i assume that the wire loop is the fuse and ideas gary
So far as I know only the main fuse box at drivers knee and the fusible links at the N/S strut tower. As Shaun, the fusible links are slow blow fuses.
Maybe blown a diode in the alternator? I think there must be a control circuit inside there?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 01:15:01 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;720051Not sure if this one is known, but in this weeks classic car weekly magazine:
Reg blanked and no mileage but sounds a bargain! In the picture it looks more blue like mine so it must be quite light green if there was such a thing?
Got it thanks Ramo, It\'s Reg was in one of the ads earlier this Autumn. Didn\'t have the landline contact though...Ta...
1986 car ....I think it\'s bound to be the Opal Green Metallic as there were only 6 body colours to choose from on S3. Sometimes the camera/light alters the colours a bit.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 01:17:42 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;720055We are going for an MOT tomorrow... Wish me luck.... John
Muchos luckos Johno ....and thanks for the thanks so to speak. Hope to hear all is good.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 08, 2010, 04:17:32 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 08, 2010, 06:15:59 PM
Quote from: David Nock;720164Have you got an ebay No. Ian? Can\'t find it.
I can:rolleyes: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-RX-7-SERIES-1-ROLLING-SHELL-1984-5-/130441642016?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e5eed8020
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 08, 2010, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: David Nock;720132Thanks Gary, Into the \'Probable Scrap Car\' Section of the listing then.
do u need vin number or any thing? gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 11:35:42 PM
Quote from: David Nock;720131Thanks Cliff....\'Deputies\'?....well Ian would almost certainly have launched this list if I hadn\'t beaten him to it...Plus all the other mates are really full fledged saddo Reg collectors in there own rights. They just don\'t know it yet.
Colours seem to be a fair spread across the available choices for each, with maybe Red edging it.
As for a localised area, very definitely. The 1st Gen has had a very Southern customer base with the South of England/South East having many more cars than Northern Areas. Least represented seems to be Wales. County by County it\'s thrown by \'The Dorset Massive\'. That\'s Tim White at RX motors who keeps a yard full on the stocks.:2eek
I\'m sending you the latest location list Cliff, I\'ve got your email. As always there\'s no confidential data, only location by area and a colour. Excel file precludes PM\'ing to you. Anyone else would like the October Location list just let me have an email address....dgnock at btopenworld dot com
Thanks a bunch for that David - have received it and am doing some small modification to it myself. Will return with slight revision for your information when completed.
:cheers Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 08, 2010, 11:43:55 PM
Quote from: CHC;720117Sorry John, was only jesting, my point being your car goes for MOT today (how did you get on?) and off for holiday next week - put both together with a celebration for an MOT pass, so either the chunnel or car ferries etc; perhaps it was a little late last evening.
Hi John - don\'t keep us in suspenders, how did your Rex get on? I\'m sure we are all sitting here holding our breath. Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 09, 2010, 11:39:07 AM
Quote from: gnj37;720183do u need vin number or any thing? gary
It would be useful Gary if the owner doesn\'t mind. Plus rough location...town/city. Is it Enniskillen area? It was Co. Fermanagh Reg when new by the way.
I hold VIN Nos. if they are offered to me but in these Islands the VIN seems to be seen as the thing not to be released. Elsewhere in the world a car\'s VIN seems to be the main key identifier. Someone told me that cars in US for example have a different Reg every few years (or was is when changing states)?
Anyway the VIN for \'DIL\' would be most useful if you can get it.
Engine Nos are not important to me because there has usually been a swop out on these cars after more than 25 years.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 09, 2010, 11:43:40 AM
Quote from: CHC;720227Thanks a bunch for that David - have received it and am doing some small modification to it myself. Will return with slight revision for your information when completed.
:cheers Cliff
Thanks Cliff....look forward to that.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 10, 2010, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: David Nock;720131Thanks Cliff....\'Deputies\'?....well Ian would almost certainly have launched this list if I hadn\'t beaten him to it...Plus all the other mates are really full fledged saddo Reg collectors in there own rights. They just don\'t know it yet
As Dave says, I probably would have done this list if it wasn\'t already up and running but I am thankful that I didn\'t! The work that goes into keeping it current and as accurate as possible really is immense with cars constantly being sold, sorned, scrapped, restored etc etc... and we should all be grateful for Daves passion and enthusiasm for maintaining this register and making it available to us all.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 10, 2010, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: Ian65;720479As Dave says, I probably would have done this list if it wasn\'t already up and running but I am thankful that I didn\'t! The work that goes into keeping it current and as accurate as possible really is immense with cars constantly being sold, sorned, scrapped, restored etc etc... and we should all be grateful for Daves passion and enthusiasm for maintaining this register and making it available to us all.
Couldnt agree more, three cheers for Mr Nock! It was Davids investigating that led me to this forum, I was looking at a 7 for sale on e-bay and one of the questions was david hunting for details. I wondered who this guy was so followed his link to hear. :D
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Post by: A7RXY on October 10, 2010, 08:31:34 PM
Thats right very well done \'The Nock\'
Nock nock .............. who\'s there ......... only me after reg nos .....
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Post by: gnj37 on October 10, 2010, 08:57:39 PM
got a holley set up of ebay anybody else get the engine parts
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 10, 2010, 09:04:43 PM
Quote from: gnj37;720502got a holley set up of ebay anybody else get the engine parts
Was going to bid on those but changed my mind, absolute bargain you got there.
Keith...
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Post by: A7RXY on October 11, 2010, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: gnj37;720502got a holley set up of ebay anybody else get the engine parts
I ment to bid for them, but forgot, you got a real bargain there, as I would have bid up to £200 for the pair of them.
Adding this guy\'s details to the 1st Gen Cars Breaking list....in Halifax. Strictly speaking it\'s a rolling shell with the rest of the parts taken off.
Also adding to the list a gearbox plus engine ancillaries/exhaust for sale in Wisbech. The guy put a BMW engine/box into an S3 so I guess these are the \'no fits\' left over.
I\'ll put the list up again.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 11, 2010, 12:27:57 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;720557I ment to bid for them, but forgot, you got a real bargain there, as I would have bid up to £200 for the pair of them.
Excuse my ignorance Dibs but what is a holley set up?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 11, 2010, 12:41:10 PM
Breaking List October.
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Post by: A7RXY on October 11, 2010, 12:42:10 PM
Yes Cliff, he also had a racing beat inlet manifold for sale aswell, that went for £52 or £54
Dibs
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 11, 2010, 01:23:05 PM
Is the \'Holley Carb\' a standard fit for the 13B? as I might have one on my FC (RAZ) yet to start.
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Post by: A7RXY on October 11, 2010, 01:29:45 PM
I dont think so, but when I got my first series 1, holley did a conversion kit for the 12a.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 11, 2010, 05:14:11 PM
I wouldn\'t go out of your way to remove all the egi stuff off the 13B Cliff that\'d be quite a job and some might argue going backwards in terms of reliability etc. Up to you of course, just personal opinion.(Says me pulling a perfectly good 12A out of mine.....:D)
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 11, 2010, 05:19:20 PM
Each to their own Tim - if we all lived in the same street, drove the same cars etc; etc; what a sad life we would live. No I didn\'t know what a Holley set up was intially and just wondered. To be honest I\'m not really the type for modifying away from standard - thats just me.
Cliff
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 11, 2010, 05:39:33 PM
Fair enough Cliff-what colour is the FC?
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Post by: gnj37 on October 12, 2010, 01:12:30 PM
Will be interesting to see how car runs with holley at the moment it has a weber ida and runs great but i suspect the emissions test at MOT might not agree with it Still sorting some electrics on car what\'s the most common fault with electric windows neither work so it must be power fault gary
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 12, 2010, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;720669Fair enough Cliff-what colour is the FC?
It\'s red Tim
Hadn\'t long acquired JAZ when I saw this on eBay and from the description I just fancied it. My plan is to start this when JAZ is roadworthy.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2010, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: gnj37;720790Will be interesting to see how car runs with holley at the moment it has a weber ida and runs great but i suspect the emissions test at MOT might not agree with it Still sorting some electrics on car what\'s the most common fault with electric windows neither work so it must be power fault gary
In my experience window motors just don\'t fail. (Never had one that didn\'t go wiz wiz everytime on 3 cars.
Window switches seem to get power from a fusible link, then through the Ignition Switch to a 30A fuse in the fuse box. From there power goes to the 2 window switches and inside each there is a pair of changeover contacts to send power either to the positive \'up\' connection on the respective motor or to the positive \'down\' connection.
There is a common looped earth to chassis from each switch; the earth is connected through the switch to the \'down\' side of the motor each time you send a positive power feed to the \'up\' contact, and this earth is changed over to the \'up\' contact every time you send power to the \'down\' connection.
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Post by: gnj37 on October 12, 2010, 05:43:52 PM
David Are there any other fusible links beside the ones one ns inner wing ?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 12, 2010, 10:02:00 PM
No, just those 3. I don\'t know which link it is but the wires coming off it should be coloured white/red. I say wires \'cos another white/red comes off to another circuit for the electric mirrors. I stress that diagrams in Haynes are a bit of a hotch poch, not always exactly drawn for S3.
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Post by: Steve-A on October 13, 2010, 10:05:11 AM
On my s2 neither of the windows worked, the problem was simply that the switch was full of 25 years worth of dust. Quick clean out with electrical cleaner and a squirt of silicone lubricant on the window runners and they are good as new.
The previous owner, before Ross, did buy a whole window motor and mechanism though so thats going spare if anyone needs it.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 16, 2010, 08:57:22 PM
I have been given the opportunity to purchase what i believe to a first Generation RX7. I only ever saw it once a year or two ago. I think it was about a Y reg or A reg.
It is a one owner car from new, with low mileage, blue in colour, garaged all its life with FSH I presume.
Could anyone hesitate a guess on value, I think I will be paying under a grand ? has to be a bargain isnt it ?
Also When did 1st gen car become 2nd gen ? Please.
Don.
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Post by: RamoNZ on October 16, 2010, 09:08:09 PM
Whether it is a bargain or not depends on the body - if its rotten, its hardly worth a few hundred to be stripped for bits.
If it is solid on top and underneath (stored in a garage with salt on the underside is as bad as stored outside) then by rights is can and should be worth £2-2.5K
If it is solid and you can pick it up for under a grand I would say go for it - engines can be replaced and there are usually a couple for sale at any one time.
1st to 2nd Gen transition was in 1986, yours is most likely the \'Series 2\' with the larger rear lights rather than the smaller rear lights on the S1
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 16, 2010, 09:24:02 PM
Depends what you want it for-if it\'s for a quick profitable sell on then I wouldn\'t bother as the market isn\'t up to it at the moment but like Ramon said if it\'s solid and you want a project then you got a good deal.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 16, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
Hi thanks, It is definately in very good order bodywise, I recall taking a step backwards when I saw it, with jaw open wide, it was that nice. (im quite excited as you have probably gathered) Would you kindly give me a dummies production list for the rx7, or explain the difference between 1st, 2nd gen cars, and then the series? where did the series come into it? Don.
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Post by: A7RXY on October 16, 2010, 09:26:26 PM
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Post by: don wyatt on October 16, 2010, 09:27:35 PM
and if anyone could upload a couple of pics showing the differences, that would be terrif.
Don.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 16, 2010, 09:32:20 PM
Ok....1st gen Series 1 known as the SA has different rear lights so is easily recognisable. [ATTACH]49268[/ATTACH]
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Post by: A7RXY on October 16, 2010, 09:33:31 PM
Don have a look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-7
Dibs
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 16, 2010, 09:34:51 PM
1st Gen Series 2 recognisable by they\'re wheels-a 13" cross style alloy. [ATTACH]49269[/ATTACH]
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 16, 2010, 09:39:12 PM
And the Series 3 most easily recognised by they\'re wheels too and they have little differences like vents low down on the front bumper [ATTACH]49270[/ATTACH]
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 16, 2010, 09:41:51 PM
This was for sale a few monhs ago and nobody made a bid then.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 16, 2010, 10:58:40 PM
$h*t hot replies guys thanks everyone. I reckon I have a 1st gen series 2 then. I was hoping for a series 1, but I think I would have remember that rear end, its quite different. (shame) I guess the series 1 is more sought after ? ?
Don.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 16, 2010, 11:12:59 PM
Don, all 1st Gens are sort after providing they are in good condition but unfortunately (or fortunately depending which way you look at it) the prices for them isn\'t really that good. I keep hearing people say \'oh in a couple of years the prices will more than double\' - but will they? Either way I\'ll just keep enjoying while I can.
:cheers
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 16, 2010, 11:17:23 PM
Yeah there\'s not many series 1\'s left thats for sure but whatever series it is ask yourself the last time you saw another one on the road!
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Post by: don wyatt on October 16, 2010, 11:53:36 PM
Yes very true chaps, you dont see them, Ive been looking at Porsche 924s, you see more of them on the road, but its a similar story with values, £1k - 2k buys you a cracking car.
and then there 1s the 240z of course. I bought one 6/7 years ago, and remember the z clubbers discussing values, moaning why the classic mags were only giving £8k values for a condition 1 car. Try buying a condition 1 240z, for under £15k now.
there must be hope for the RX7 ? does it have a 240z pedigree ? Im not sure :) don.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 16, 2010, 11:54:24 PM
Welcome to the forum Don. I put together a 1st gen RX7 \'e-book\' last month containing tons of info and buyers guides etc on the 1st gen rx7. It tells you basically everything you need to know about these cars. You can download it for free by clicking on my website in my signature or send me your address to my email ian08 at sky.com and I\'ll send you a copy on a disc.
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Post by: ossie747 on October 17, 2010, 04:15:20 AM
Hi and welcome Don, sounds like it could be a good buy. Where abouts in Kent are you only there seems to be a shortage of fb owners in the south east.
Paul
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 10:17:25 AM
Hi Ian, thats really kind of you, ta very much. I will try a download, and if any probs I will get in touch, as I would love to see your ebook resto stuff on the 1st gen. brilliant mate. thanks.
Paul, hi and thanks for the welcome. Im buzzing mate about seeing this rx7 again on Tuesday week. the only thing I wasnt quite so struck on was that Mazda blue colour job, (hey will that tell you guys what series it might be). I would love to give it a new colour and a full restoration up to Condition 1, but am also not wanting to ruin an original car ? ?
(answers on a postcard pls)
I live nr Tonbridge Kent, so if this all goes to plan and I buy this little baby, I would most likely get involved in the local club scene.
Ive had so many classics, Usually older cars, Ive forgotten what Ive had. (240z,s . TVRs, TR7s, P6 V8s, and a whole host of 60s Rootes stuff).
Unspoilt/untampered cars do not come up that often, especially pre 1970 cars, so if this RX7 is what I think, then I will most likely keep her a bit longer than I usually do, and get involved. Ive always like the shape, since it was first introduced, and when I spotted this one in a local car park, I hastily popped a note on the window, and to my surprise a call came back a month or two later, it then went cold, until now, and the LADY, has now bought a brand new motor. Luckily it didnt go to scrappage a year or so ago, eh lads. Don.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 10:21:39 AM
WOW Ian your site is the nuts, just opened it up, and im off..............................................................................see ya later
Don.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 11:57:42 AM
Quote from: don wyatt;721578$h*t hot replies guys thanks everyone. I reckon I have a 1st gen series 2 then. I was hoping for a series 1, but I think I would have remember that rear end, its quite different. (shame) I guess the series 1 is more sought after ? ?
Don.
I don\'t think they are more sought after particularly, it\'s just that there are hardly any left. As the replies above, the 1st generation was broken down into 3 models, the series 1, 2 & 3. In view of it\'s scarity, you can discount the S1 really, plus they weren\'t as well equiped. The S2 model was from 1981 to 1983 and the S3 from 1983 to 1986 when the 2nd gen was introduced, this being a completely different car. There is little to choose between the S2 & S3 and I\'d buy either model based purely on it\'s condition. They both drive exactly the same. I\'ve only got S3 car as they were available for sale when I wanted to buy but I could just as easily bought a nice S2.
The one you\'re looking at Don sounds like an S2 and will probably look like this...
Back in the 70\'s and 80\'s Mazda did some garish colours but I quite like the blue, it suits the car I think.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 12:13:02 PM
Hi Don and welcome. It\'s all been said very accurately by everyone above.
I can\'t add any more to what series 1st Gen you\'re looking at except that \'Y\' is just about certain to be Series 2 and \'A\' could be Series 2 or Series 3 since the change - over date was around March of 1984.
I keep a register of all known 1st Generation Cars and if you could add the Reg up here (or email me on dgnock at btopenworld dot com if you want privacy), then I can tell you if it\'s on the Register or not.
It\'s Blue is it?...the S2 was available with the bright metallic blue above and the S3 with a more darker metallic called Tender Blue.
The price sounds quite good for low miles with a good bodyshell but for heaven\'s sake read the buying guides that appear in Ian\'s ebook article. I can email some separate articles to you if Ian\'s book is a long download.
Cheers Dave
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 01:26:45 PM
Hi Dave,
BTW, Thanks again everyone for being so helpful, i really do appreciate the chat with those who know.
Yes please can you email some of the scary stuff on buying. Like I said Ive had so many cars its untrue, but I still manage to buy the odd heap of ....e now and then.
This is changing by the minute, I think mine, (hark at me I havnt bought it yet lol). is a darker blue (boring) not the turqioisey colour in the pics shown, which is bloody gorgeous, (me want, me want). So maybe I am looking at a S3 then.
Ah speculation eh guys. I am waiting for the reg to be emailed to me, and then all will be revealed possibly. As said Dave, its a one owner, looked a minter (at first sight) I remember looking for club window stickers but saw nout ? cant remember much else, grey interior I think, dont recall alloys ??
Don. donaldwyatt@msn.com
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Post by: captainbizzaro on October 17, 2010, 01:40:27 PM
One thing you will learn is that 1st gens are masters at hiding bad rot so look carefully!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 02:00:48 PM
And AGU above was for sale in the South East this April. I have it noted as originally £1999, dropping down to £1495 on ebay \'Buy it Now\', but possibly not sold even at that lower price.
Some scarey stuff on buying sent Don.
Dave
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: David Nock;721650And AGU above was for sale in the South East this April. I have it noted as originally £1999, dropping down to £1495 on ebay \'Buy it Now\', but possibly not sold even at that lower price.
Dave
MAD, :Hammer
Well if the car Im looking at is a rot bucket, I think I will look check this site out before I go any further !500 quid for a lovely motor like AGU, sounds crazy. paid that recently for a plie of dead trees in the shape of some new fencing.
Don.
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 17, 2010, 04:11:07 PM
Hi Don, Welcome to the madhouse. A grey interior shouts S3 to me and in the best colour to by the sounds of it. (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/2007_0321Image0017.jpg?t=1287328218)
But then I would say that !
Keith...
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 04:27:05 PM
Mmm, not sure mate, kinda hoping its an earlier car, but they all look cool anyway.
Hoping shes a good un, and my £850 buys the car.
Don.
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Post by: syebba on October 17, 2010, 04:53:06 PM
Yeh, guy\'s going back to NZ by the sound of things, wants shut....looks like it\'s been his pride and joy. Full set of original wheels as well for the purist.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 06:09:43 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;721676Mmm, not sure mate, kinda hoping its an earlier car, but they all look cool anyway.
Hoping shes a good un, and my £850 buys the car.
Don.
The series 2 has 13" wheels Don and the S3 has 14". The axle fixings are different. There were a good few \'hidden\' upgrades on the S3 and I like \'em better but for sure the S2 is somewhat rarer and has a loyal following. The S1 is extremely rare and you can count the actual roadgoing/rally S1\'s (as distinct from projects laid up somewhere) on the fingers of one hand.
Dave
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 06:45:02 PM
1st gen RX7\'s are unusual in that they didn\'t lose the original feel or look as they went through the various revisions. Looking at Datsun Z cars, the 240z was the original ( and probably the purest and best) and then lost a bit of that with the 260z. By the time the 280 came out it was a world away and so it\'s the 240\'s that command the top money. Same with E-types, s1 cars fetch mad money whereas the later V12 2+2 can be picked up reasonably cheaply by comparison. This isn\'t the case with 1st gen RX7\'s and I don\'t believe there\'s any merit in seeking out an older car. As Dave says, there are subtle revisions / improvements to the S3 but nothing to make a world of difference and I\'d happily buy any of the 3 variants if the condition and price was right. It\'s all about condition with these cars, not age.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: Ian65;7216911st gen RX7\'s are unusual in that they didn\'t lose the original feel or look as they went through the various revisions. Looking at Datsun Z cars, the 240z was the original ( and probably the purest and best) and then lost a bit of that with the 260z. By the time the 280 came out it was a world away and so it\'s the 240\'s that command the top money. Same with E-types, s1 cars fetch mad money whereas the later V12 2+2 can be picked up reasonably cheaply by comparison. This isn\'t the case with 1st gen RX7\'s and I don\'t believe there\'s any merit in seeking out an older car. As Dave says, there are subtle revisions / improvements to the S3 but nothing to make a world of difference and I\'d happily buy any of the 3 variants if the condition and price was right. It\'s all about condition with these cars, not age.
Thats interesting Dave, and unusual, although having had two and a half glasses of Red now, i cant be arsed to think of a comparative classic. I wish the owner would hurry up and get back to me with some details, you cant rush them, in case the get cheesed off. The owner already thinks Im nuts, to them its a second hand/old car, and if you look to eager !! they either get fed up, or the price goes up.
Series 1 , I dont think it is one of those, I reckon S2. Hey you guys are gonna fed up with this soon.
Im gonna throw a bit of a wierd offer into the ring here, If I get the car, and she is a minter, I will do one of two things. Keep it, or sell for a small profit (well a large one if I can). Lets assume its a series 2 for thjs scenario.
Do you think It will sell easily. One owner, i think it has around 50k - 70k miles, its gonna have history, and lets assume its been well looked after, i think the owners have loadsa dosh, and its been garaged and pampered. (wifes car)
What can I expect on here, will there be some interest. Don.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 07:54:54 PM
You\'d need to get it very cheap to turn a decent profit, there are a fair few for sale at the moment, a couple of gorgeous cars but they aren\'t selling in the present climate. Projects are changing hands for peanuts, top cars which deservedly warrant top money are sticking. If it\'s a minter, and you want good money for it, be prepared to sit on it for a good while until it sells or sell it cheaper but lose your profit. If it\'s that good I\'d keep it.... but if you really want to trade it on, stick it on ebay with no reserve and let it find it\'s own level.
I doubt anyone on here will pay top money for it unless it\'s absolutely exceptional.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 07:55:19 PM
Putting together possible pieces on this car. One came up end of Sept, 1 lady owenr with low miles and Rolls Royce servicing with an asking price of 1999 but no takers. Perhaps this is the same car?
Cliff ps Don - welcome to the club.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 08:00:07 PM
A couple more photos
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 08:05:23 PM
sounds about right, I thought so too but hadn\'t got any pictures of it. I take it it didn\'t sell on the bay then.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 08:13:26 PM
No - ended on 1st Oct with no bids and wasn\'t re-listed. Must admit though it did/does look nice and with full history could be a real gem.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 08:16:37 PM
Quote from: CHC;721712No - ended on 1st Oct with no bids and wasn\'t re-listed. Must admit though it did/does look nice and with full history could be a real gem.
bumpers look as if they need a bit of tlc... unless it\'s a trick of the light. 1st registered 01.03.1986 so one of the last ones.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 08:19:11 PM
Without sounding too sexist, the fairer bread do have parking issues so I\'m told?
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 08:36:34 PM
Mmm not sure guys,
Im sure the one Im after was older, Y reg or A reg, Could be wrong though.
Does anyone have a way of getting a link to the listing ? If this is the car, and I can get a link/info, I will be forearmed as they say.
Don.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 08:43:11 PM
Ian is this one known to the club ? Don
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;721728Ian is this one known to the club ? Don
Not until it showed up on ebay last month... I posted it on page 63 of this thread. I remember we were all very complimentary about it when it was on ebay. here\'s an ad for it...
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 09:03:47 PM
Well Chaps, I have to say you guys know your stuff. I reckon this is the car then;
Colour; Correct Lady Owner; Correct Location; Correct Service History Type; Correct
As for me thinking it was a Y or X, Reg, I saw it for just a few mins, and I reckon sub consciously I remembered there was an X in the reg, Perhaps ? who knows. Anyway I reckon this is the car, too many coincidences.
Well if i get it for the right dosh, could be a bargain then ? Anyone think so ? Don.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 09:05:10 PM
And guys it will be another one on the radar for the club records, AND saved from Labours scrappage farce too.
Don
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 09:10:29 PM
Is this Tender Blue then ? and Series 3 ?
Don.
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 09:11:37 PM
It\'s very difficult to value it Don from photos... as we all know, ( sometimes to our cost), old cars always look better in a picture than in real life. It was up for 2 grand but didn\'t get a bid so where did that valuation come from? It sounds very nice and genuine but what\'s it like underneath?? Hard to say...
yes tender blue and a very late series 3, Dave would be very interested in the vin number of this car ( the last 6 numbers) if you can get them.
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Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 09:14:19 PM
just had this from the owner
]Year of manufacture - probably 1985. The car was purchased in March 1986. Mileage 54,000 Service history incomplete. MOTs are complete barring 1991/2 MOT expires 13th April 2011 Road taxed until May 2011. Model reference taken from the ID plate is FB.[/B][/I]
Does this sound right guys FB ? ?
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Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 09:21:13 PM
Sounds pretty good to me. As already said, the main concern is body shell corrosion, if it\'s sound then this could be a very nice find. There can\'t be too much wrong with it if it\'s got 6 months ticket on it.
FB is the model code.
FB = 1st generation FC = 2nd gen FD = 3rd gen
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 09:28:21 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 09:28:29 PM
Cheers Ian, I am now armed with all the info I need thanks to you chaps. Wish me luck. I have an appointment to view and test Drive, we have talked offers, and all looks positive. Prepare to add this one to the archives. Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 09:44:26 PM
if these engines are 2.3, and the car looks relatively light, there must be a a fair amount of GRIN FACTOR, what was the original 0-60 estimated at.
I have looked up some of the info I have been supplied but cant find this, Im not lazy honest !! :D
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 17, 2010, 09:58:52 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;721756if these engines are 2.3, and the car looks relatively light, there must be a a fair amount of GRIN FACTOR, what was the original 0-60 estimated at.
I have looked up some of the info I have been supplied but cant find this, Im not lazy honest !! :D
Don.
the cheshire cat will have nothing on you if you get behind the wheel of this car! 1st gens have huge grin factor. Most people who have owned one, love them. The power the rotary puts out in 3rd when you get it on the revs is seductive. Push it through the red line, wait till the over rev buzzer goes off and then shift up.....great fun. ( don\'t do that on the test drive though!)
It\'s not really about 0-60\'s, bhp, torque etc, etc....
it\'s the whole package which is just so much fun... light car, good handling, rear wheel drive, rotary engine.... you need to drive it ( and put it through it\'s paces) to get the buzz.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 10:23:03 PM
SOUNDS AWESOME !!
Can I use that word on here ? I am over 40 in fact, crap, im nearly ?? :Hammer
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 10:26:30 PM
Don\'t worry Don, we\'re all nearly ?? and we all still feel the same way about the FB\'s.
:Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 17, 2010, 10:58:15 PM
well just off to bubeyes, 11pm. before I go and dream about this wee FB, (see Im picking it up already)
Just want to say thanks to you guys for the info and the welcomes. Thanks to Ian Dave Tim Paul Keith Syebba Cliff
and others who have helped me out on this one. Don. :WaveBye
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 17, 2010, 11:06:43 PM
Quote from: Ian65;721749B446TRH back on ebay, £450 start this time
Last time on eBay this one ended on 8th Sept and only made a top bid of 460. So we\'ll have to wait and see its\' destiny.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 17, 2010, 11:24:25 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;721770well just off to bubeyes, 11pm. before I go and dream about this wee FB, (see Im picking it up already)
Just want to say thanks to you guys for the info and the welcomes. Thanks to Ian Dave Tim Paul Keith Syebba Cliff
and others who have helped me out on this one. Don. :WaveBye
To save time you can call us the magnificent seven :Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 18, 2010, 06:19:56 PM
and the MRC newbie appreciation trophy goes to
THE MAG 7 :flamed:cheers
Any Kent member fancy coming out to look at this motor with me ? Afternoon of Tuesday 26th Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 18, 2010, 10:01:20 PM
If I was a local laddie Don I\'d say yes - alas I\'m probably 200+ miles away so a bit far to tell my boss i\'m just slipping out ....... Others of the MAG 7 will probably have already told you where to look for evidence of rust monkeys - floor pan from behind front seats to the rear (under rear seat), sills, inside rear wheel arches, petrol tank etc: Good luck with the viewing and lets hope you come away driving an FB.
Cliff :3gears-rh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 18, 2010, 10:58:53 PM
Yes thanks Cliff.
The remaining Mag 6 are pretty quiet tonight, must have had their cocoa a while ago now, probably all tucked up by now eh. :Snoring
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 18, 2010, 11:04:40 PM
I am sat in bed, listening to some music but alas no cocoa.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 18, 2010, 11:09:19 PM
Not in bed yet Don, I was getting excited for you as I thought you were viewing tomorrow not next tuesday. If it turns out to be the s3 that was for sale a couple of weeks back it looks a very nice car in my favourite colour. Get it bought and get the Rx7 bug :yes
Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 18, 2010, 11:12:33 PM
I\'ve been in an hour or so - been trying to get the side repeaters operative on JAZ in preparation for MOT - what a nuisance it is, the earth isn\'t very good! Okay - bl***y git of a thing, everything I tried it just laughed at me and didn\'t work but these are all part of the joys for owning and caring of the FB\'s - Don watch out.
:Hammer
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 18, 2010, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;721921Not in bed yet Don, I was getting excited for you as I thought you were viewing tomorrow not next tuesday. If it turns out to be the s3 that was for sale a couple of weeks back it looks a very nice car in my favourite colour. Get it bought and get the Rx7 bug :yes
Keith...
Its definately that one Keith, for sure. Isnt this the more common colour though ? and have many folks on the circuit changed the colour of theres, or this considered forbidden ? Don
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 18, 2010, 11:52:15 PM
Its just that I always wanted a really deep gloss ruby or claret type red car, then i spent a fortune on a 240z, and painted it blue (doh), so promised myself ruby/claret in very high gloss next time around, maybe cream hide interior ?
Don. (after winning the lottery that is)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 19, 2010, 06:45:37 AM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 19, 2010, 06:47:50 AM
Don Also check the drain holes to the roof panel and rear hatch as these can also bring little surprises, also make sure that if you buy to keep them clear, I use a plastic coated flexible wire as used for net curtains.
Good luck Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on October 19, 2010, 08:30:45 AM
Can\'t help you on that afternoon, but would be free on weekends - I\'m only down in eastbourne :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 19, 2010, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: don wyatt;721928Its just that I always wanted a really deep gloss ruby or claret type red car, then i spent a fortune on a 240z, and painted it blue (doh), so promised myself ruby/claret in very high gloss next time around, maybe cream hide interior ?
Don. (after winning the lottery that is)
Seems to be the green ones that get a colour change, if Ian had his way it would be law :D I think its your car do what you like with it, its another 1st gen staying on the road so thats got to be good. Dont think anybody on this forum would say otherwise.
Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 19, 2010, 10:29:22 AM
After Sunrise red Tender blue is my favourite, as for the light green I\'m with Ian.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 19, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;721919Yes thanks Cliff.
The remaining Mag 6 are pretty quiet tonight, must have had their cocoa a while ago now, probably all tucked up by now eh. :Snoring
Don.
Been working at the Daughters yesterday (Mon). Gosh....6 hours solid work and I was really tired out...getting OLD now folks. So didn\'t log on yesterday.
So we\'re pretty sure it\'s C147 TMX we\'re looking at then? goodoh, looks nice and sounds nice. The VIN (stamped on plate on the bulkhead) will be JMZFB13120070XXXX ....those last four digits XXXX are the car\'s serial No. and we think the last one was 5582. TMX should therefore be in the 5500\'s I would have thought; as said somewhere above, it was 1st Reg on 1st March 1986.
Our Gus came on the ship in Spring \'86 so may have travelled with TMX
I want to be Charles Bronson in the MAG 7. Or which one kept notes of all the palaminos, piebalds and other \'osses they rode? I want to be him.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 19, 2010, 12:21:49 PM
I\'m certain this is the one half buried in a field in Hinkley a month or so earlier. I couldn\'t get the Reg then. Only 1 scrapper with a defunct Toyota motor I would have thought.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 19, 2010, 01:50:02 PM
I think you are right, can anyone remember what i went for ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 19, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
Quote from: David Nock;721962I want to be Charles Bronson in the MAG 7. Or which one kept notes of all the palaminos, piebalds and other \'osses they rode? I want to be him.
I suppose I\'ll have to be Yul Brynner then..... cool... charismatic.... but more on account of my bald head!
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 19, 2010, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;721954Seems to be the green ones that get a colour change, if Ian had his way it would be law :D Keith...
Ha Ha! Quite right! I\'d introduce a special scrappage scheme for them.... no discount or money off, just if caught on the road.... straight off to the crusher. In all seriousness though, it\'s your car to do what you want with it. I\'m the type that just can\'t settle with a car if I don\'t like the colour, no matter how nice the condition is which is a real problem with 1st gens as due to the shortage of supply, you really have to buy on condition alone, there aren\'t enough about to be fussy about colours. I sold my last one which was really quite nice and bought one in a poorer cosmetic condition just because I couldn\'t settle with the colour and preferred black instead. Each to their own!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 19, 2010, 08:29:37 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 19, 2010, 09:03:59 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;722083Thats a bit defeatist-nothin a good buffer won\'t sort.:Giggle
Not forgetting to clean out the drainage holes too!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 19, 2010, 09:10:05 PM
Quote from: Ian65;722050Ha Ha! Quite right! I\'d introduce a special scrappage scheme for them.... no discount or money off, just if caught on the road.... straight off to the crusher. In all seriousness though, it\'s your car to do what you want with it. I\'m the type that just can\'t settle with a car if I don\'t like the colour, no matter how nice the condition is which is a real problem with 1st gens as due to the shortage of supply, you really have to buy on condition alone, there aren\'t enough about to be fussy about colours. I sold my last one which was really quite nice and bought one in a poorer cosmetic condition just because I couldn\'t settle with the colour and preferred black instead. Each to their own!
Now I always wanted a white sports car with a red interior so was ecstatic when JAZ came along - interior wasn\'t right then but it is now, so my dream is fulfilled. But as already said by some of the MAG 7 - colour doesn\'t and shouldn\'t really matter, the fact that the rx7\'s are still roadworthy is what counts.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 19, 2010, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: CHC;722091£102 + pence if I recall correctly. If this is the same rx - looks as if somebody is trying to make a quick few bucks profit.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 19, 2010, 09:28:14 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;722083Thats a bit defeatist-nothin a good buffer won\'t sort.:Giggle
Hehe,yes i do apologise for being defeatist,it\'s only a bit of algae after all,it\'ll be a minter with a bucket of soapy water!:Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
Well guys I must be number Eight then. Not sure I want to Henry VIII, can you refer to me as "No8", or "The eighth Man" sounds quite FB, sorry I meant FBI, dont you think :Giggle
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 19, 2010, 09:35:20 PM
David the silver car vin no is JMZ FB131200662375 . I thought that this was a series 1 car but the owner tells me there is discs on rear would this be series 2 car ? gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 19, 2010, 09:49:57 PM
I\'ll be Chico \'cause I love travelling south - Chico followed the original six down to Mexico (and apart from which my initials are in his name).
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 19, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
Quote from: gnj37;722107David the silver car vin no is JMZ FB131200662375 . I thought that this was a series 1 car but the owner tells me there is discs on rear would this be series 2 car ? gary
Also from enniskillen my wife says she saw a soft rx the other day is she right?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 09:58:52 PM
i am attempting to post a pic of me, so you guys have a pic of who you are chatting to, as you dont know me. This is me at one of my weird hobbies. I dig mammoth holes in the ground sometimes 12 feet deep for old bottles like these. (dont ask).
No, cant sort it, How do I get a pic on here ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 09:59:56 PM
not sure if this image is visible, anyone able to fix, im crap at IT. Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 19, 2010, 10:07:37 PM
You\'ll have to use photobucket or something similar. Or mail it too me at captainbizzaro at aol dot com and I\'ll post it for you
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 19, 2010, 10:08:38 PM
IT is a black art....Try opening a photobucket account - then post the link from that - it is pretty straight forward and its free. :)
I can see you put the link to the photo from your \'My Documents\' folder but this wont work as we the interweb does not have access to view it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 19, 2010, 10:09:56 PM
Tim, get off the PC and back into your shed - Nev needs you.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 19, 2010, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;722126Tim, get off the PC and back into your shed - Nev needs you.
Aaaah busted lol.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 10:18:10 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;722123You\'ll have to use photobucket or something similar. Or mail it too me at captainbizzaro at aol dot com and I\'ll post it for you
I give up, I will mail you a pic of me then, thanks for that. sounds like im full of self importance. Is all about me, me ,me. :InLove
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 19, 2010, 10:27:58 PM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeres Don!
[ATTACH]49294[/ATTACH]
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 10:30:03 PM
Could someone possibly post up a pic of the dash area of a series 3 FB ? Please.
Ta very much Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 10:32:29 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 10:35:34 PM
very good myatt :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 11:12:09 PM
2 queries, (I know you blokes are gonna get peed off with all this, but I will soon have this car and be put out of my misery.
Does the rear screen lift up, looks like it has hinges ? Has anyone got any dashboard pics for the S3 ? cheers . Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 19, 2010, 11:13:19 PM
Yeah the rear screen lifts up, do you want pics of the whole dash or just the cluster?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 19, 2010, 11:20:09 PM
Heres how the screen lifts... [ATTACH]49295[/ATTACH]
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 19, 2010, 11:24:04 PM
Lots of dash pics here, care of Cliff. http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66294
Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 19, 2010, 11:30:38 PM
Well done Keith I forgot about that.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 11:56:47 PM
Thanks, nice ....pit. did i see a manual choke in there somewhere ? Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 19, 2010, 11:59:52 PM
Okay so I cant say c o c k pit, how about;
Nice seating area.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 20, 2010, 12:00:18 AM
Haha way to go family filter.
So yeah, there is indeed a manual choke on an FB if they are stock as they run a Nikki carb.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 20, 2010, 06:54:20 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;722137You got some bottle posting that! :D
Especially after someone despicably altered Daves picture to make him look like Inspector Blake!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 20, 2010, 09:38:18 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;722126Tim, get off the PC and back into your shed - Nev needs you.
:Giggle:Giggle:Giggle,just doing his research!:rolleyes:
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 20, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
Quote from: gnj37;722107David the silver car vin no is JMZ FB131200662375 . I thought that this was a series 1 car but the owner tells me there is discs on rear would this be series 2 car ? gary
Yes, the \'FB\' in the VIN says it\'s S2 (I\'m sure that only the S2 and S3 have FB - the S1 has SA22C in the VIN). Also the 66XXXX series is S2, the S3 having 70XXXX at the end of the VIN. I\'d date 2375 as sometime in 1982 but not absolutely certain of that.
Thanks Gary....Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 20, 2010, 06:13:20 PM
Quote from: gnj37;722116Also from enniskillen my wife says she saw a soft rx the other day is she right?
I wouldn\'t think so, not as a 1st Gen. I\'ve only ever noted one and that was a conversion. Presently in East Midlands area. So far as I know there were no factory \'verts sold in UK.
Perhaps your wife saw a 2nd Gen?
There were some USA convertibles though. A factory somewhere used to do a few?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 20, 2010, 06:18:52 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;722123You\'ll have to use photobucket or something similar.
You can use direct attachments - though you have to be able to resize the pic. Anything larger than 1000 pixels on the longest dimension will not upload.
If you can resize, when posting, go \'Advanced\' and just attach the resized pic from your desktop. Up she goes; you then complete your message as normal.
Apples are wonderful for the resizing \'cos they have iPhoto and you just export from your library to the desktop, resizing as you go.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 20, 2010, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: David Nock;722238You can use direct attachments - though you have to be able to resize the pic. Anything larger than 1000 pixels on the longest dimension will not upload.
If you can resize, when posting, go \'Advanced\' and just attach the resized pic from your desktop. Up she goes; you then complete your message as normal.
Apples are wonderful for the resizing \'cos they have iPhoto and you just export from your library to the desktop, resizing as you go.
I didn\'t think guests had the attachment option Dave? Agree with you on the Mac front I\'m a full blown Mac fanboy!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 20, 2010, 07:05:30 PM
For Sale in this weeks CCW:
1984 76k miles, £1200 Very clean example, mint body and interior. Never been welded and just undersealed. Runs and drives well. New MoT. Aftermarket alloy wheels with near-new Goodyear tyres all round. Spare Engine and gearbox.
I have contact details if required, car based in Durham.
No reg though - pic is terrible! Looks like a tender blue S3 though.
Dave - do we think we know this one? Sounds like a bargain!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 20, 2010, 07:14:45 PM
Ramon did you advertise your 12A on eBay?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 20, 2010, 07:22:26 PM
Nope - knew a man in need so the deal was swiftly done.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 20, 2010, 07:26:14 PM
I need one these type of men where did you find him:2Confused
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Rotaryguru on October 20, 2010, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;722268I need one these type of men where did you find him:2Confused
Where old school is cool. :Typing;);););)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 20, 2010, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: Rotaryguru;722284Where old school is cool. :Typing;);););)
Amen to that and let it always be so.. :cool
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: clive on October 20, 2010, 10:12:29 PM
Looking at some old pictures, Is this car still around,
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 20, 2010, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: clive;722290Looking at some old pictures, Is this car still around,
Inspector Nock may know.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 20, 2010, 10:52:07 PM
As you boys know I am eagerly awaiting the inspection of a possible purchase of a S2 RX7. So much so that I am clock watching.
I am thinking also about if I do, which i probably will, come home with the car, will I change it, in that I mean, will I update its interior and body colour. If i do, it will be done pretty thoroughly.
Interior removed, engine out, before prep and re-paint, and again if I do, it will be in highly glossed dark cherry red/claret/wine colour.
Do any of you chaps know anyone that has refurbed a FB interior to leather ?
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 20, 2010, 10:54:19 PM
Yes Mark with the yellow Fb 1 BRGreen Fb on ebay with leather interior.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 20, 2010, 10:58:36 PM
Don, I did\'nt know you were seriously interested in a Fb,i must of missed your posts:rolleyes:.Sorry could\'nt resist!:evillaugh ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 20, 2010, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: syebba;722298Don, I did\'nt know you were seriously interested in a Fb,i must of missed your posts:rolleyes:.Sorry could\'nt resist!:evillaugh ta stu..
And I had you down as one of the Mag 7 as well :Hammer
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 20, 2010, 11:11:34 PM
Quote from: clive;722290Looking at some old pictures, Is this car still around,
Apparently still around but without the "Rx7" flashes. As said, David will know. Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 20, 2010, 11:19:27 PM
sorry guys just realised I have interupted the conversation flow :o
just ignore me :D its past my bed time.
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 20, 2010, 11:22:11 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;722296As you boys know I am eagerly awaiting the inspection of a possible purchase of a S2 RX7. So much so that I am clock watching.
I am thinking also about if I do, which i probably will, come home with the car, will I change it, in that I mean, will I update its interior and body colour. If i do, it will be done pretty thoroughly.
Interior removed, engine out, before prep and re-paint, and again if I do, it will be in highly glossed dark cherry red/claret/wine colour.
Do any of you chaps know anyone that has refurbed a FB interior to leather ?
Don.
The best leather Ive seen in a gen1 was this, (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/f7dc_4.jpg?t=1287613031)
Dont know who did it though, was a car I veiwed a couple of years back. It had Rx7 embosed into the seats and door cards. By the way, yours is S3 not S2 :Tongue1 Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on October 21, 2010, 08:15:32 AM
Quote from: don wyatt;722296Interior removed, engine out, before prep and re-paint, and again if I do, it will be in highly glossed dark cherry red/claret/wine colour.
Don.
Can I be so rude as to suggest a mazda colour - Garnet Red Mica 25F - my 2003 323F is that colour, and it is lovely, and it\'s Mazda :Thumbsup!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: myatt1972;722304The best leather Ive seen in a gen1 was this, (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/f7dc_4.jpg?t=1287613031)
Dont know who did it though, was a car I veiwed a couple of years back. It had Rx7 embosed into the seats and door cards. By the way, yours is S3 not S2 :Tongue1 Keith...
Must concur Keith - Don\'s potential purchase is S3. Very nice leather work and the embossed RX7, really hits the target - ooooh back of the net! Like the wood inserts too - anybody know where these are available?
Ta. Chico
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 10:47:38 AM
Is the external colour Sliver of metallic Green on this 1st Gen? Can\'t make my mind up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 21, 2010, 01:48:22 PM
From memory it was silver.The owner spent over £10k restoring the car,he sold it,i think for £1.5k approx 2>3 years ago,should be on older posts here. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 21, 2010, 04:16:25 PM
Ah right , thought it was an S2, okay S3 will do, as long as its a good un dont care really.
Been messing about with colours and have already painted it Red, (virtual you understand) but I have to get CaptainBiz to download the pics for me. Watch this space.
Anyone fancy a paint job ? I should wait n see my work before you answer that lol. Don.
Thanks for the leather interior pic by the way. I was thinking about cream hide ? ruby/claret or dark cherry red paintwork.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: CHC;722330Is the external colour Sliver of metallic Green on this 1st Gen? Can\'t make my mind up.
It was green, that\'s why Keith didn\'t buy it. It looked silver in the pics but then, in reality, oh dear!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 21, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: Ian65;722385It was green, that\'s why Keith didn\'t buy it. It looked silver in the pics but then, in reality, oh dear!
Thats right, pulled up outside the guys house and there it was light green:2Mad And the wood inserts, err no, stick on lookalike wood that doesnt unless you are 10 foot away. Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 07:08:15 PM
Quote from: clive;722290Looking at some old pictures, Is this car still around,
It is Clive, put in an appearance at Medway Show this spring...A runner again after some time on SORN...maybe a summer fun car. (And why not).
Everyone...sorry for poor attendance on the Forum this week....working like mad at daughters house and out for a meal tonight in 3mins time.
I\'ll try harder tomorrow or my public will out me. :eek
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 21, 2010, 07:24:01 PM
Posted at Dons request....
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Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 21, 2010, 07:28:31 PM
.....after.... [ATTACH]49309[/ATTACH]
By the way Don, this is pretty similar to the colour of Ian\'s last S3 so if you ask nicely he may post a pic up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 08:06:00 PM
Don, that looks exactly like Mazda sunrise red which is a factory standard colour on s3 RX7\'s. Here\'s the car I\'ve recently sold in that colour...
If this is the colour you\'ve got you heart set on, I\'d wait and look for one in this colour rather than go to the trouble and expense of doing a full colour change. ( unless you really want to do a nut and bolt rebuild which seems a bit unneccessary if the blue car is as good as it sounds) You could always run the blue car and then sell it on when a red one comes up which they do from time to time.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 21, 2010, 08:10:45 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 08:18:57 PM
Fair enough if you want a non standard colour like that wide body but I can\'t see the point in spending £££££\'s changing to a standard factory colour. Just buy one in that colour!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 21, 2010, 09:22:09 PM
I once had a nice purple one :D
(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/DSCF0399.jpg?t=1287692412) Enough said !
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: Ian65;722385It was green, that\'s why Keith didn\'t buy it. It looked silver in the pics but then, in reality, oh dear!
Had a feeling it was green because of the inset on the leather seats. I really must be the odd one out here as I actually liked the metallic green - sad or what? What I wasn\'t fussed on was the Tan interior that went with it. If one came up I would consider purchasing it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 09:36:11 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;722420I once had a nice purple one :D
there\'s no answer to that really!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 21, 2010, 09:38:38 PM
Yes fair and sensible comment Ian, the attraction for me is the one owner, 53k on the clock. Love your red motor though really nice.
Also love that darker one too, its that claret colour that does it for me.
Thanks Tim for posting up my artwork.
5 days to go before I view and test the S3, it will be a week or two later before I can bring her home, if we do a deal that is. Will take some more pics of the car when I go on Tuesday, so I will have to sort out photobucket or get on Tims case again, (sorry Tim). Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 09:45:57 PM
Have to admit Ian, the one you recently sold did look nice and I\'ll bet it was even better than it looked. Was there a specific reason for selling it as in \'too many projects\' or couldn\'t squeeze any more into the garage with one already in the pit?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 09:48:51 PM
better still Don, if you become a full member you\'ll be able to post you own - come on, you know you want too! Chico :Thumbsup!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;722420I once had a nice purple one :D
(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/DSCF0399.jpg?t=1287692412) Enough said !
This wasn\'t converted to run on bottled gas was it?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 21, 2010, 09:53:52 PM
Quote from: CHC;722430better still Don, if you become a full member you\'ll be able to post you own - come on, you know you want too! Chico :Thumbsup!
Why didnt you tell me earlier ? How much is it for speculative (non) owners, and can I get temporary cover :Laugh
Don
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 09:55:05 PM
My wife has just seen this photo and thinks it\'s lovely - now she wants one too! hmm no way am I respraying JAZ, she\'s staying original.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 09:57:34 PM
I bought it because after a few years out of one, I wanted to get back into a 1st gen and it was in very nice condition and pretty cheap @ £780. I never really settled on the colour and I\'d always wanted a nice black S3 for the last 20 years but never found one when I was in the market for one. After buying the red car, I then bought a \'C\' reg black car as a project last year and then this year, bought my black \'A\' reg that I\'m presently turbo-ing so the red car was surplus to requirements and I sold it on for 1200 quid. I suppose it\'s going back to what I saying yesterday about cars and colours. If I\'ve got reservations about the colour, I can\'t settle with the car.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;722433Why didnt you tell me earlier ? How much is it for speculative (non) owners, and can I get temporary cover :Laugh
Don
Check the club conditions out but £30 for full 12 months membership was a no brainer for me - back of the net!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;722420I once had a nice purple one :D
(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/DSCF0399.jpg?t=1287692412) Enough said !
Have I got the engine out of this car?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 21, 2010, 10:03:59 PM
. If I\'ve got reservations about the colour, I can\'t settle with the car.[/QUOTE]
Me too Ian, but im gonna wait and see if I can live with it in blue, if I cant I will do a full change, interior and engine out job. :eek
Just JOINED UP boys, so I had better get this motor :Giggle
and.............................you have to put up with me for a bit longer :wave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 21, 2010, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: Ian65;722437Have I got the engine out of this car?
Not sure if I like the look of that foam leaking out of the front os tyre.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 10:08:01 PM
Know what you mean Ian - my original rex was bright yellow which at 32 years was loud and brash but I didn\'t care cause everywhere we went we were definitely noticed. Early this year I saw JAZ on eBay and it was defintely the colour which hooked me in, interior colour wasn\'t the best in brown but changed to my opted colour of wine/burgundy (call it what you will). If you can get the external right, the internal isn\'t that difficult to change one way or another. So totally understand your decision to move on - and to make a profit was even better.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 10:22:04 PM
Yeah, it\'s just personal preferences at the end of the day, my favourite 1st gen colours are black and white but then my choices change for other makes of car. That said, if a special 1st gen or one in exceptional condition came up for sale, I\'d probably go for it. There are a couple of very nice opal green cars in the club.....( well known as my least favourite colour!)... this one is just superb looking....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 10:22:14 PM
Welcome aboard Don - I too joined before I bought JAZ so even if for any reason you don\'t buy TMX I\'m sure you\'ll pick one up sooner rather than later. In fact you could pick one up in your colour?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
Got to say it Ian - HJB sure does look nice. I\'m a light colour lover and suppose nothing is going to change that. It is funny though that some shapes certainly suit specific colours and also I\'ve noticed how people change when they get behind the wheel of some of these too - especially 4 x 4\'s ....... here I am and I\'ve got one of those.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 21, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Now that is very nice HJB.
Is that a kit, (spolier etc), and are they readily available, very expensive ?
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 21, 2010, 10:40:37 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;722448Now that is very nice HJB.
Is that a kit, (spolier etc), and are they readily available, very expensive ?
Don.
It\'s the Elford turbo bodykit.... not made anymore.... the rear spoiler is quite easy to find.... the side skirts and rear spats are more difficult to find and the front bumper is unbelievably hard to get hold of.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 21, 2010, 10:41:14 PM
Gorgeous green Elford. It\'s such a light green,often mistaken for silver in pics,only i could\'nt live with a brown interior.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: syebba;722450Gorgeous green Elford. It\'s such a light green,often mistaken for silver in pics,only i could\'nt live with a brown interior.
My sentiments too.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: Ian65;722441Yeah, it\'s just personal preferences at the end of the day, my favourite 1st gen colours are black and white but then my choices change for other makes of car. That said, if a special 1st gen or one in exceptional condition came up for sale, I\'d probably go for it. There are a couple of very nice opal green cars in the club.....( well known as my least favourite colour!)... this one is just superb looking....
I can understand why you want this conversion Ian, it really is wow!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 21, 2010, 11:05:52 PM
Quote from: Ian65;722437Have I got the engine out of this car?
No Ive still got the engine and box from this car, oh and the bonnet! Dibs had the carb but it was stuffed and the stainless exhaust is on my S3. I should have saved more bits but didnt have the space. Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 21, 2010, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: CHC;722432This wasn\'t converted to run on bottled gas was it?
I wish it was, I have a good supply of LPG at work :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 21, 2010, 11:16:21 PM
Thanks Ian, sure is a beautiful looking.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 21, 2010, 11:16:45 PM
So I noticed. I take it you no longer have this car then?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 22, 2010, 08:01:14 AM
Quote from: don wyatt;722438. If I\'ve got reservations about the colour, I can\'t settle with the car.
Me too Ian, but im gonna wait and see if I can live with it in blue, if I cant I will do a full change, interior and engine out job. :eek
Just JOINED UP boys, so I had better get this motor :Giggle
and.............................you have to put up with me for a bit longer :wave[/quote]
Don, rather than go through the exercise of the potential purchase of TMX and all the modifications, colour changes etc, have you considered the possibility of the dark green S2 \'TRH\' which ends tonight - current bid of £450. At least this already has the beige interior, so that would keep the cost down for restoration project. Then you\'d only have the colour to address and then check the power unit and drive mechanism out. Hmm..... have you already placed a bid? Just a thought mate.
Chico
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on October 22, 2010, 08:16:39 AM
Well, if y ou do buy the blue one...and you\'re going to respray it anyway...I have some green doors that I\'d love to swap for your blue ones :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 22, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
QuoteDon, rather than go through the exercise of the potential purchase of TMX and all the modifications, colour changes etc, have you considered the possibility of the dark green S2 \'TRH\' which ends tonight - current bid of £450. At least this already has the beige interior, so that would keep the cost down for restoration project. Then you\'d only have the colour to address and then check the power unit and drive mechanism out. Hmm..... have you already placed a bid? Just a thought mate.
Chico
TRH was in Sheffield before being trailered to Somerset for Resto. Without wanting to hurt the present seller....
TMX looks the dog\'s jollies to me....away with all this nonsense about colour, if it\'s as good as it looks get TMX bought and tucked away up your drive Don. Then get a red coach line down the side and bomb about. Look lovely on Tender Blue Don::::Yuk. Voila::::
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 22, 2010, 01:16:44 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;722253For Sale in this weeks CCW:
1984 76k miles, £1200 Very clean example, mint body and interior. Never been welded and just undersealed. Runs and drives well. New MoT. Aftermarket alloy wheels with near-new Goodyear tyres all round. Spare Engine and gearbox.
I have contact details if required, car based in Durham.
No reg though - pic is terrible! Looks like a tender blue S3 though.
Dave - do we think we know this one? Sounds like a bargain!
Hi Ramo, no I don\'t think this one\'s been seen. CCW seems a bit non web friendly - no advert views possible? that seems daft to me.
Can you let me have any email details if there are any? I tend not to phone people because of the cost, I just send a groveling email for info usually.
Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 22, 2010, 01:46:33 PM
Hi Dave,
Feel free to call me \'Ramon\' as this is actually my name - I mixed my name with my place of birth using the \'N\' as the link - clever stuff huh! :)
Dont worry though, people have and still do occaisionally call me \'Ramo\' so Im easy either way if you want to conserve on letters typed.
Regarding the email, I will post it up (not sure if it actually has one) when I get back to the magazine and yes I fully agree - completely absurd not to post adverts on the web!
Thanks,
Ramo, Rammo, Ramon, Rimmon, Raymond, Rayman, Roman, Ramone - I could go on... :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 22, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
Hmm, It dont take much to confuse me chaps.
I hear what your saying guys, but the main attraction for me with TMX, is the one owner, pampered life, 53k miles, and from memory, sound, solid and in super condition. (obviuosly I will need to confirm the latter when I see it up close and personal on Tues)
I agree the one on the bay looks nice and for such silly money, (whats that all about), but ive bought on spec before and it rarely works out. If TMX is what i hope it is, then its gonna be bought for under a grand (one hopes). Will keep you all posted with some pics on Tuesday evening.
Which reminds me, I am a paid up member now, wheres my club status and priveledges ?? think it still says Im a guest ? anyone ?
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on October 22, 2010, 07:28:12 PM
Quote from: David Nock;722510Can you let me have any email details if there are any? Cheers Dave.
philshotton at hotmail dot co dot uk
Dont want the poor guy getting spam...
Good luck!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 22, 2010, 07:30:58 PM
Could someone give me a quick run down on the rx7 first gen scene for members (or non members come to that) looking through the Forum threads and topics, its a right old jumble, you cant really tell whats what.
Does the First Gen gang, get together and have a yearly meet ? or is the entire Mazda Rotary Club at one show? What is the show called /is this the rotostock event? Is it at the same venue each year? Are there any part dressed women pics SORRY SCRUB THAT, are there any pics of the yearly event?
Thanks somoene !! Don. :xconfused
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 22, 2010, 08:35:41 PM
I think the 1st event of the year is the Brooklands meet. I\'d love to go to it, never been as it\'s a right jaunt from here. Dibs (A7RXY) went last year in his lovely 1st gen and took some great photos...
This is a club event and owners / enthusiasts of all rotary models attend.
Rotorstock is more of a track event at the Santa Pod drag strip. I think this year may have been the last. I went this year but track days etc aren\'t really my scene, I prefer the more sedate type of event such as the Brooklands meet.
There isn\'t a 1st gen only meet but funnily enought, we we discussing it the other week on here saying we should meet up for the day....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 22, 2010, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: CHC;721771Last time on eBay this one ended on 8th Sept and only made a top bid of 460. So we\'ll have to wait and see its\' destiny.
So this time TRH sold for £629.99 - wasn\'t you by chance Don?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 22, 2010, 10:31:20 PM
Ian thanks for the response (again) your a very helpful chap. I think we must be alike, Im not much of a speed, octane and nitrus fan, I too prefer the classic side of motoring, I must show you guys some pics of my Datsun 240z, which ws a total rebuild project cost me a small, sorry, a large fortune, but apart from a colour change, remained original format.
No guys I didnt buy the one on ebay, cheap thats for sure, but mileage ? had to have been round the clock I think. Also I am a bit wary of those that have been under the welders torch, once the rot sets in, theres no stopping it.
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 22, 2010, 10:35:42 PM
Aha, full club member eh!
:cheers :guinness :Ladys-man
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 22, 2010, 10:40:59 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 22, 2010, 10:52:50 PM
here are some pics of the 240z. I had this old crate imported from California, left hooker of course, then had it completely dismantled, converted to RHD, and completely restored from ground up. [ATTACH]49334[/ATTACH]
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Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 22, 2010, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;722593Ian thanks for the response (again) your a very helpful chap. I think we must be alike, Im not much of a speed, octane and nitrus fan, I too prefer the classic side of motoring,
Don.
Hey Don, dont let Ian fool you, hes got a 400bhp daily driver and that 7 wont hang about when the turbo is on :D Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 22, 2010, 10:57:58 PM
I love 240z\'s, very nice indeed. Didnt they do a V8 version in South Africa ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 22, 2010, 11:21:36 PM
Im not sure about that, but there were plenty of V8 conversions of the 240z, mainly in the states, with the Chevy lump dropped in after a few alterations. As with all experiments of this type, its pretty pointless unless everything else is upgraded too.
I think classics are ruined once you start transplanting. I would change cosmetics, but thats it for me, you lose too much character otherwise. My 240z, with a six branch stainless sounded fantastic.
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 22, 2010, 11:39:53 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;722593Ian thanks for the response (again) your a very helpful chap. I think we must be alike, Im not much of a speed, octane and nitrus fan, I too prefer the classic side of motoring, I must show you guys some pics of my Datsun 240z, which ws a total rebuild project cost me a small, sorry, a large fortune, but apart from a colour change, remained original format.
No guys I didnt buy the one on ebay, cheap thats for sure, but mileage ? had to have been round the clock I think. Also I am a bit wary of those that have been under the welders torch, once the rot sets in, theres no stopping it.
Don.
Welcome Full Member - wouldn\'t have thought there are many RX7s remaining not to have had some degree of welding through their life. These cars are up to 30 years young remember and any underseal applied at the factory doesn\'t appear to have been that effective - so beware Don of the dreaded rust monkeys, they are alive and well. In saying that, even now good preparation during restoration is the main issue in fighting corrosion which does give life back to fatiguing body panels. Judging from you minatures you\'ve probably got that covered.
So if you didn\'t bid on TRH, could this mean we might have more new blood swelling the ranks?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 22, 2010, 11:52:29 PM
I think Don will buy it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 22, 2010, 11:56:29 PM
Quote from: CHC;722603Welcome Full Member - wouldn\'t have thought there are many RX7s remaining not to have had some degree of welding through their life. These cars are up to 30 years young remember and any underseal applied at the factory doesn\'t appear to have been that effective - so beware Don of the dreaded rust monkeys, they are alive and well. In saying that, even now good preparation during restoration is the main issue in fighting corrosion which does give life back to fatiguing body panels. Judging from you minatures you\'ve probably got that covered.
So if you didn\'t bid on TRH, could this mean we might have more new blood swelling the ranks?
I\'d guess there\'s maybe 10 rust free original fb\'s left,with not even a single bubble on them,not many.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 22, 2010, 11:58:09 PM
Love to see just one of them!
:god
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 23, 2010, 07:12:44 AM
Quote from: syebba;722609I\'d guess there\'s maybe 10 rust free original fb\'s left,with not even a single bubble on them,not many.
I doubt if there are even that many, if any. Even a car like MAZ1986 isn\'t perfect cosmetically and Dave Collins has stated that if it weren\'t for preserving the originality, he\'d have it blown over. As for the welding, I reckon that even if a cars hasn\'t been welded yet, it will soon need it. We all know about the weakness in the rear trailing arm pick up points with loading stresses cracking the mounts and even a well maintained, unabused car like GUS still had to be done. There might be some totally original, untouched minters overseas but left in the UK?...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 23, 2010, 08:48:26 AM
TMX could be that car guys couldn\'t it ? I certainly hope so, but the odds are against it, because of the shear reality facts of age.
I have a feeling TMX has led a garaged existance which will help, if it has been given an airing regularly. Im clutching at straws and hoping its a minter guys, building up my little fantasies, wishing and a hoping...as the song goes.
Don.
all will be revealed, if its full of rot, it will stay there, and who knows where it will end up
Don
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 23, 2010, 09:02:39 AM
I doubt it will be full of rot but you need to check the rear trailing arm pick up points carefully.... not a deal breaker but maybe a negotiating point? They all crack here eventually, even the most well looked after cars... See this thread for more info...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 23, 2010, 09:41:06 AM
Thanks Ian, so I need to look under the back Seat area, and behind the rear wheel for this issue. Daves pics on that thread are really useful. Cheers Ian.
If it looks iffy, I may rerserve judgement for a more experienced guy. presumably if rot is evident here (depending on the levels) it would not go through a ticket ? or what ?
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 23, 2010, 09:54:48 AM
Good morning everyone.:WaveBye. I like the cherry red cars body kit looks like the group b rx7
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 23, 2010, 10:18:59 AM
Quote from: don wyatt;722624Thanks Ian, so I need to look under the back Seat area, and behind the rear wheel for this issue. Daves pics on that thread are really useful. Cheers Ian.
If it looks iffy, I may rerserve judgement for a more experienced guy. presumably if rot is evident here (depending on the levels) it would not go through a ticket ? or what ?
Don.
No, any corrosion within 300mm of a mounting point is a fail. I\'ll send you some info on this later to help you check the car over.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 23, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
Just don\'t be scared to have a good poke thats all because even the most solid looking car can be hiding rot under decades of underseal etc. Like Ian said the majority of it is fixable it just might be a bargaining point thats all.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 23, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;722568philshotton at hotmail dot co dot uk
Dont want the poor guy getting spam...
Good luck!
Thanks for that Ramondo
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 23, 2010, 12:33:02 PM
Quote from: gnj37;722625Good morning everyone.:WaveBye. I like the cherry red cars body kit looks like the group b rx7
Morning Gary. How\'s tricks? Any pics yet of our mutual friend?
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 23, 2010, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;722624Thanks Ian, so I need to look under the back Seat area, and behind the rear wheel for this issue. Daves pics on that thread are really useful. Cheers Ian.
If it looks iffy, I may rerserve judgement for a more experienced guy. presumably if rot is evident here (depending on the levels) it would not go through a ticket ? or what ?
Don.
It\'s a bit much work to pull the back the back seat apart at a viewing but in my view it\'s very important to get a good look behind the back wheels. Also an easy view is to peep over each wing and just look for cracks/rust on the front chassis legs at the steering box/ idler arm mounting points. The rear floor and sills should be high on the viewing check list as well.
Hope it goes well Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 25, 2010, 09:44:59 AM
Quote from: David Nock;721686Yeh, guy\'s going back to NZ by the sound of things, wants shut....looks like it\'s been his pride and joy. Full set of original wheels as well for the purist.
No bids again - now re-advertised with a start bid of £1000 (and a reserve price set)?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on October 25, 2010, 10:19:23 AM
Looks clean enough but do you think that mileage is correct?. I know there is MOT history but 37,000? :xconfused
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 25, 2010, 12:32:49 PM
Possible; One S3 was picked up in Bucks/Bedford? area a couple of years back and trailered to Scotland. Looked like a basket case with no MOT but it turned out milage was genuine at 29,000. Also original Dunlop tyres were still on it.....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on October 25, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: ossie747;723001Looks clean enough but do you think that mileage is correct?. I know there is MOT history but 37,000? :xconfused
Doesnt look that clean, check out the big hole in the rear arch. Bodywork is king I always think, you could soon chuck another engine in. Think he will be lucky to get 1k how things are at the moment.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 25, 2010, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: ossie747;723001Looks clean enough but do you think that mileage is correct?. I know there is MOT history but 37,000? :xconfused
Looks as though there might be corrosion around the drivers door hinge too. I\'ve recently taken a full interior our of JAZ that colour.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 25, 2010, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;722619TMX could be that car guys couldn\'t it ? I certainly hope so, but the odds are against it, because of the shear reality facts of age.
I have a feeling TMX has led a garaged existance which will help, if it has been given an airing regularly. Im clutching at straws and hoping its a minter guys, building up my little fantasies, wishing and a hoping...as the song goes.
Don.
all will be revealed, if its full of rot, it will stay there, and who knows where it will end up
Don
Well Don - last night of dreaming - all is about to be revealed. Hope all goes well.
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Post by: myatt1972 on October 25, 2010, 10:21:04 PM
Yes, good luck Don, I hope its a good un. Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on October 25, 2010, 10:29:12 PM
If anyone is interested there is a tailgate wiper motor on ebay, have checked part number and it appears to be for a S2 & S3, item number is 250716438974. Daverey
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 25, 2010, 10:33:38 PM
Quote from: daverey;723144If anyone is interested there is a tailgate wiper motor on ebay, have checked part number and it appears to be for a S2 & S3, item number is 250716438974. Daverey
good find! that\'s a rare part.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 25, 2010, 10:43:56 PM
Thanks guys,
all to be revealed tomorrow, stay tuned !!
it could be :guinness time.
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 25, 2010, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: daverey;723144If anyone is interested there is a tailgate wiper motor on ebay, have checked part number and it appears to be for a S2 & S3, item number is 250716438974. Daverey
You\'re welcome to mine-unwanted weight!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 26, 2010, 12:53:05 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;723152You\'re welcome to mine-unwanted weight!
Youre shedding weight.:yes Whats next interior out & bucket seats,plastic windows?:3gears-rh ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 26, 2010, 08:58:52 AM
Well I\'m taking the interior out to assess the condition of the rear end from the topside anyway so will see how the mood takes me, as it were! I know for a fact the fuel tank is not very healthy so fingers crossed for the rest. It looks fine from the underside though....
As for windows-I think that might be a bit extreme for what I\'m doing!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on October 26, 2010, 09:34:41 AM
\'Plastic windows\' level of weight reduction could be fun:3gears-lh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 26, 2010, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;722253For Sale in this weeks CCW:
1984 76k miles, £1200 Very clean example, mint body and interior. Never been welded and just undersealed. Runs and drives well. New MoT. Aftermarket alloy wheels with near-new Goodyear tyres all round. Spare Engine and gearbox.
I have contact details if required, car based in Durham.
No reg though - pic is terrible! Looks like a tender blue S3 though.
Dave - do we think we know this one? Sounds like a bargain!
It\'s Mervin! (the car). He\'s actually White. So yes we do know him. I am asking the owner if he wants me to put up a library picture on here for him.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 26, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
SHE\'s MINE. :D :D :D
see new thread
Don.:Thumbs-up :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 26, 2010, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: syebba;722607I think Don will buy it.
I knew it,physhic me:2Rolleyes
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 26, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
Quote from: don wyatt;723282SHE\'s MINE. :D :D :D
see new thread
Don.:Thumbs-up :)
Bet you were like a Cheshire Cat driving home and other drivers thinking - look at him - he\'s mad! But they don\'t know what its like to get a prize such as this. Jealous, me? Too right I am mate! WELL DONE.
ps As if there was any doubt that you might not buy it.
:rollin
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on October 26, 2010, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: CHC;722998No bids again - now re-advertised with a start bid of £1000 (and a reserve price set)?
E-mailed the seller who states he wants about £2000 for it. Not sure how long it is before he leaves the country.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 26, 2010, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: ossie747;723340E-mailed the seller who states he wants about £2000 for it. Not sure how long it is before he leaves the country.
Don\'t suppose this suits £1500 ono. Stainless exhaust,twr bodykit,rotechnics engine,new clutch,radiator etc. Low owners,on pistonheads.[Has glass moonroof too & a pvt plate]
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 26, 2010, 11:14:40 PM
Yeh nice motor and pretty rare model I would have thought, moonroof worth a few hundred in its own right too and private reg. Got a fair history with it so all in all not a bad deal but current market wouldn\'t have thought will sell.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 26, 2010, 11:16:41 PM
Quote from: ossie747;723340E-mailed the seller who states he wants about £2000 for it. Not sure how long it is before he leaves the country.
He might be better off taking it with him at that price - probably got a better chance of selling @ a higher price downunder.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on October 27, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: syebba;723343(http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/2113/2113782-1t.jpg) (http://javascript Don\'t suppose this suits £1500 ono. Stainless exhaust,twr bodykit,rotechnics engine,new clutch,radiator etc. Low owners,on pistonheads.[Has glass moonroof too & a pvt plate]
Love this car, don\'t know how I missed it before what price was it originally up for. I don\'t what it is about those kits that make them look so good. I\'m still hunting for a front TWR bumper for mine but no joy so far. Quite fancy this one if I could sell mine.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 27, 2010, 11:02:50 PM
Quote from: David Nock;723217It\'s Mervin! (the car). He\'s actually White. So yes we do know him. I am asking the owner if he wants me to put up a library picture on here for him.
This sounds nice & white too! Definitely think the 1st Gens looks better in white.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 27, 2010, 11:06:49 PM
Quote from: David Nock;723217It\'s Mervin! (the car). He\'s actually White. So yes we do know him. I am asking the owner if he wants me to put up a library picture on here for him.
If I were to choose between this & TMX (Tender blue) fb\'s, I\'d go for this one.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 27, 2010, 11:41:39 PM
For sale.... 1979 s1 group B rally car... £32,500
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 27, 2010, 11:45:17 PM
I\'d donate a testicle for those wheels
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on October 28, 2010, 10:22:19 AM
I want the whole car. Anyone wanna but a kidney?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 28, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: ossie747;723529Love this car, don\'t know how I missed it before what price was it originally up for. I don\'t what it is about those kits that make them look so good. I\'m still hunting for a front TWR bumper for mine but no joy so far. Quite fancy this one if I could sell mine.
Was on pistonheads last month at £1750.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 28, 2010, 11:31:34 AM
Seems it\'s a replica with no history. Lot of money for 230hp approx. There\'s a norwegian one for sale too,DONT look at it,the site attacks your computer! ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 28, 2010, 11:39:18 AM
Seems they were very tail happy cars in rallys,spectators enjoyed.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 28, 2010, 05:18:15 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;723541I\'d donate a testicle for those wheels
Yes Capn, they are reaaly nice. I might have to check them out for TMx, when I win the lottery that is :evillaugh
Don
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 28, 2010, 05:25:40 PM
check out //www.ogwirewheels.com
for bling wheels, there a nice set with blue chrome which would look nice on Tender Blue TMX ?
OOOOhh
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 28, 2010, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;723541I\'d donate a testicle for those wheels
Yeh would look really good on NEV - hows he doin\' Tim?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 28, 2010, 11:19:36 PM
He\'s good cheers Cliff, front end in the process of being stripped ready for intercooler-will update build thread when enough progress has been made but the 25 year old body fixings are putting up a fight!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 29, 2010, 12:03:30 AM
Bit like me too these days, a bit of tlc, codliver oil - oops should say Omega 3 these days and a lot of persuation from the boss. Keep at it, it\'ll soon be spring.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 29, 2010, 08:25:55 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;723693the 25 year old body fixings are putting up a fight!
frozen, rusty fixings are a right pain aren\'t they? I had to drill quite a few out on my project car. Mazda used a 6mm hexhead taptite that cut it\'s own thread as it went into pre welded captives... it saved Mazda having to pre tap all the captives first. I bought a box of these ( about 500) for a tenner and I put them in with a touch of copper grease so they should come out a bit easier next time.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 29, 2010, 08:57:24 AM
Yep - happened to me last weekend when I was tackling the viscous fan. Rather than constantly scratching the back of hand I thought \'take off the fan surround\', 3 came out with WD40 & difficulty whilst the last one said NO and snapped. As you quite rightly expressed in your recent thread Ian - The Joy of owning a 25 year old car, it\'s great isn\'t it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 29, 2010, 10:31:48 AM
Hi All, you guys have been busy I go on hols for a week and come to 100\'s of posts on this theard alone, well thats most of today gone then. Don welcome to being an owner, I\'m only over the river in Essex, so not that for away, must now get the clutch fitted, then may venture into bandit country.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 29, 2010, 10:49:59 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;723739Hi All, you guys have been busy I go on hols for a week and come to 100\'s of posts on this theard alone, well thats most of today gone then. Don welcome to being an owner, I\'m only over the river in Essex, so not that for away, must now get the clutch fitted, then may venture into bandit country.
Welcome back Dibs - trust the hol was great, you\'ll need another by the time you\'ve caught up on the threads and then you\'ve got the rex to make good.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 29, 2010, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: CHC;723743Welcome back Dibs - trust the hol was great, you\'ll need another by the time you\'ve caught up on the threads and then you\'ve got the rex to make good.
Well what can I say, just read through the other theard, and dont know what to say, so nothing is the best policy for me and let time be the decider .............
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 29, 2010, 11:23:22 AM
welcome back Dibs.... we\'ve missed your input!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 29, 2010, 11:34:24 AM
Hi Ian, I see the old viscous fan raised its ugly head again.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 29, 2010, 12:19:49 PM
Quote from: syebba;723573Seems it\'s a replica with no history. Lot of money for 230hp approx. There\'s a norwegian one for sale too,DONT look at it,the site attacks your computer! ta stu..
I thought a peripheral port motor would have a lot more go than 230hp would it not be 50-60 HP short
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 29, 2010, 01:43:14 PM
@gnj37
In ireland i don\'t think there\'s any interest in Fb\'s is there? On irish rotary club,last post was April 2010!
Don\'t suppose you,ve heard of a 1979 series 1 in white with arches,around anywhere have you,on forums or clubs?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 29, 2010, 02:23:07 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;723739Hi All, you guys have been busy I go on hols for a week and come to 100\'s of posts on this theard alone, well thats most of today gone then. Don welcome to being an owner, I\'m only over the river in Essex, so not that for away, must now get the clutch fitted, then may venture into bandit country.
Hi mate, thanks for the welcome, let me know if you want to drag yourself out of the homeland, and pay a visit to the Garden of England, I will be taking delivery of TMX next week, and would welcome anyone who might spare 5 mins to look her over and offer some advice. I do a nice cup of Earl Grey for the posh among us, and PG for the commoners.
:bandit. Gringo
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on October 29, 2010, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: syebba;723777@gnj37
In ireland i don\'t think there\'s any interest in Fb\'s is there? On irish rotary club,last post was April 2010!
Don\'t suppose you,ve heard of a 1979 series 1 in white with arches,around anywhere have you,on forums or clubs?
Doesn\'t seem to be a big following for 1st gen over here i think problem was with weather so wet the rust problem was exaggerated i know of a few cars in enniskillen area i was more interested in the rotary engine aspect of it from a rallying back ground but when i bought my car more so to get my hands on the engine end of things the car is that good it would be a sin to abuse it i have posted on Irish forum but got no reply s and that is why i use this forum.
I haven\'t seen a white arched 1st gen but will keep a eye out gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 29, 2010, 07:42:15 PM
Is there one on here, cant see one, if not shouldnt there be one ??
would like to see some nice clear close up shots of members rides ?
:bandit (no; 8)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 29, 2010, 07:54:56 PM
It would be a good idea to do a sticky thread with pics of members cars. The 2nd & 3rd gen sections do this.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 29, 2010, 07:56:47 PM
just for you Don to make you want to keep it. (http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss30/d_i_ball/P1000549.jpg) (http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss30/d_i_ball/P1000550.jpg) (http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss30/d_i_ball/P1000551.jpg) (http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss30/d_i_ball/P1000555.jpg)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: don wyatt on October 31, 2010, 08:28:59 AM
Ah yeh, very cool.
The steering wheel is in a slightly different position, and the clock is reading a different time. You guys are dealing with one smart rrrse here you know.:D
Don.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 10:43:14 AM
Quote from: Ian65;724044Already on the list but A206 WGN is on the move again.... on ebay now.
Yeh, that\'s Mervin. Owner didn\'t get back to me re putting up a library pic but it doesn\'t matter now. Except my pic would have been white.
Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 31, 2010, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: David Nock;724061Yeh, that\'s Mervin. Owner didn\'t get back to me re putting up a library pic but it doesn\'t matter now. Except my pic would have been white.
Dave.
has it been sprayed Dave.... dvla has it down as silver.... is this the same car? Looks silver too...
It looks to be a very smart Fb,says no rust & a bundle of spares inc panels,engine & gearbox,reserve set at £1200. I like those wheels,mmmmmmmmm.
Interestingly went on Elite site to look for wheels for Fb\'s,it came up with about 5 choices,so not impossible to find aftermarket alloys,just limited choice.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 03:01:02 PM
Jazz is looking G8 Cliff,youre nearly there. Is that a red pinstripe running through the side mouldings? I\'ve never seen that on fb\'s,maybe it\'s just on white fb\'s?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 03:06:57 PM
I\'ve gotta stop looking at that silver fb,i keep imagining it with carbon arches,rollcage & lexan windows,stripped out interior,more power! Looks too good to modify,i must resist. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 31, 2010, 03:20:44 PM
Go on Stu you know you want to ..............
dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;724123Go on Stu you know you want to ..............
dibs
Hehe,yeah,i\'d love to do it. A run what you brung & track car. I have the spec in my head,350hp minimum[had 300 in a dax cobra],big brakes,plastic windows,multipoint cage,carbon fibre arches,doors,bonnet,stripped interior with bucket seats & harnesses.
Problem is i only have a single garage,if it was a double i\'d do it! I\'d pay for the work to be done,could do it myself,but built too many cars in the past to do it again,tooooooooooo much time,lifes too short!:D
Very keen on pete\'s fb progress being built by Atomic Rex,makes for gripping reading,well for me it does anyway:god
ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on October 31, 2010, 04:14:31 PM
lol .....I know what you mean, I even now have trouble getting in and out of mine.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: Ian65;724101has it been sprayed Dave.... dvla has it down as silver.... is this the same car? Looks silver too...
.
Dooh...Yeh, It\'s always been Silver, I just tried too hard to remember, should have checked my Library first....Sorry.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 05:16:14 PM
Jazz is looking G8 Cliff,youre nearly there. Is that a red pinstripe running through the side mouldings? I\'ve never seen that on fb\'s,maybe it\'s just on white fb\'s?
:Thumbs-up Yes- RED pinstripe added by myself, just to add a little something and match the interior colour. Sets it off quite well I thought.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 05:20:18 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;724136lol .....I know what you mean, I even now have trouble getting in and out of mine.
Thinking of adding a swivel chair lift inside the garage - this will make the task of in & out a little easier. Is it worth doing the job properly by putting steel runners under the drivers seat to line up with the chair lift - no that\'s too exreme I think.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 05:22:44 PM
It looks to be a very smart Fb,says no rust & a bundle of spares inc panels,engine & gearbox,reserve set at £1200. I like those wheels,mmmmmmmmm.
Interestingly went on Elite site to look for wheels for Fb\'s,it came up with about 5 choices,so not impossible to find aftermarket alloys,just limited choice.
Must admit those alloys are nice!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 31, 2010, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: CHC;724150:Thumbs-up Yes- RED pinstripe added by myself, just to add a little something and match the interior colour. Sets it off quite well I thought.
Your cars looking really great now Cliff, a credit to all your hard work. I too had that red stripe in the side mouldings in my white car back in the 80\'s.....the gap in the mouldings sort of lends itself to it doesn\'t it?
Not sure about it on black cars though... this is going to have to come off.
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 07:39:46 PM
Quote from: Ian65;724182Your cars looking really great now Cliff, a credit to all your hard work. I too had that red stripe in the side mouldings in my white car back in the 80\'s.....the gap in the mouldings sort of lends itself to it doesn\'t it?
Not sure about it on black cars though... this is going to have to come off.
.
Yeh knew it was was original white cars (I think mainly on the S3) and thought WOW! But also must say it is eye catching in the black too mate - me, I\'d keep it. :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 10:16:42 PM
Quote from: Ian65;724182Your cars looking really great now Cliff, a credit to all your hard work. I too had that red stripe in the side mouldings in my white car back in the 80\'s.....the gap in the mouldings sort of lends itself to it doesn\'t it?
Not sure about it on black cars though... this is going to have to come off.
.
If you do decide to take off the stripe(s) remember, Vanilla wheel !
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: CHC;724150:Thumbs-up Yes- RED pinstripe added by myself, just to add a little something and match the interior colour. Sets it off quite well I thought.
It looks good the pinstripe,i was being nosey & expanded your picture to see it.:bandit
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 10:20:33 PM
No worries on that score - we all like to nose around occassionally, this is how we learn things sometimes. :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: David Nock;721686Yeh, guy\'s going back to NZ by the sound of things, wants shut....looks like it\'s been his pride and joy. Full set of original wheels as well for the purist.
I see \'SUX\' didn\'t make it to reserve price again - only 2 bidders and finished @ £1020. If you ask me this is better than TMX with even less mileage.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 10:28:46 PM
I like the red pinstripe,even on black. Wonder if this was an optional extra as few cars seem to have it? Does remind me a bit of XR3\'s decor of the day,remember the MG Maestro & Metro\'s attempts,yuk,red everywhere & MG badges on any flat surface they could mount them,on steering wheel,gear knob,gauges,bootlid,centre of alloys,down side of cars,on passenger side of dash,TACK!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on October 31, 2010, 10:30:53 PM
Good job they only lasted two rain showers before rust set in.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 31, 2010, 10:37:53 PM
I like the red pinstripe,even on black. Wonder if this was an optional extra as few cars seem to have it?
I dunno but it\'s going to be a mare to get it off. Whether it\'s because it\'s been on for so long or some other reason, it\'s well stuck. The top / colour layer eventually peels away leaving the base of the stripe under it. Might need a heat gun to get it off in one layer.
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Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 10:44:57 PM
I signed into ebay a few mins ago & my finger involuntarily hit the bid now button.
be careful Stu or you may inadvertently bid again.... god forbid!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 11:12:39 PM
I love the look of that Fb,but to be honest i\'ve no where to store it,my red Fb is in the single garage & i\'d hate to leave this silver Fb out in the elements. It\'s got the bidding going,3 other bidders now,i think £1200 is a very good price,if it\'s as rot free as the owner says? Anyone predict the next lottery nos for me,so i can get a double garage for it? ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 11:17:45 PM
Would really like to help you out with this one Stu but the wife says it must be our turn by now - so sorry mate, looks as if I will be buying the 2 car garage instead (I WISH). :rollin
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on October 31, 2010, 11:24:56 PM
Yes cliff,my garage is sooooooooooo tight i can\'t even get a trolley jack with a handle under a car,because the walls are in the way,dose,nt matter how far i park the car over to one side either! I\'d deffo have this Fb as a track project if i had room,hope it goes to another enthusiast & ends up on MRC. It\'s strange how you get yourself worked up over something you know you can\'t have,frustrating,depressing & annoying. Must be grateful for what we already have,
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on October 31, 2010, 11:34:51 PM
I\'m with you all the way on that one Stu - my wife keeps saying \'you can\'t save them all on your own\'. Yes it must be great to be able to pick up a real gem of a car which is unmolested and doesn\'t/hasn\'t had any major rectification work done to her BUT I personally feel more drawn to those which need the work to bring them back to life. Take JAZ which I bought in March, yes needed work but what the heck, I\'m an enthusiast and want to do this work properly rather than bodge her up. So feel this way every time I see one on eBay which needs work. My stable currrently consists of JAZ (FB), RAZ (FC) and am also currently discussing the purchase of another FB (if I can\'t conclude this it will be scrapped I fear).
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 01, 2010, 11:28:37 AM
My stable\'s quite big but full of junk. In the middle is old faithful, Gus. When I go in he opens one eye and says "what the feck do you want, we did our 12 miles last month".
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 01, 2010, 11:51:24 AM
Does that include stoppages for liquids and fodder? What an expensive beast you have their Mr Nock! :Laugh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 01, 2010, 06:19:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;724321My stable\'s quite big but full of junk. In the middle is old faithful, Gus. When I go in he opens one eye and says "what the feck do you want, we did our 12 miles last month".
Nev gives me the wide eyed "what the feck are you doing to me fool?" look at the moment. It\'s quite humbling.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 01, 2010, 07:09:43 PM
With me RXY says, get that fecking clutch nailed in .....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 01, 2010, 07:15:35 PM
I think it would be a shame to track or drift this car...
Nice road cars are diminishing in numbers and this looks very tidy.
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 01, 2010, 07:33:18 PM
That silver one does look tidy.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 01, 2010, 07:34:03 PM
Yes it would be a shame to track or drift,i think i mentioned that when i was dreaming about buying it. Certainly looks like the best Fb for sale at the mo. I think £1200 is a G8 price too. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 01, 2010, 07:39:04 PM
Is that a buy it now price then? Too lazy to look at the mo the fires lit and it\'s too hot to breathe.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 01, 2010, 07:48:40 PM
No £1200 is the reserve price,capitano.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 01, 2010, 09:08:59 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;724450Is that a buy it now price then? Too lazy to look at the mo the fires lit and it\'s too hot to breathe.
Didn\'t realise you loved NEV that much Tim - a kettle, fire too, next you\'ll be putting in a fitted carpet and a 3 piece suite and slippers under the table.:rollin
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 01, 2010, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: CHC;724496Didn\'t realise you loved NEV that much Tim - a kettle, fire too, next you\'ll be putting in a fitted carpet and a 3 piece suite and slippers under the table.:rollin
Yeah I do mate-just ask the wife.:D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 01, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;724498Yeah I do mate-just ask the wife.:D
Ditto Tim - I\'ve just finished JAZ (hopefully) after 6 months and am now just about to start my FC proj (RAZ) so she who must be obeyed has it all again through winter/spring, good init!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 01, 2010, 09:26:41 PM
BPA 702Y now for sale again in the sale section
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 01, 2010, 11:22:39 PM
Quote from: Ian65;724437I think it would be a shame to track or drift this car...
Nice road cars are diminishing in numbers and this looks very tidy.
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Definitely too good to be a Track or Drift project but it does seem to be a growing option for purchasers - that\'s a real shame I think. :(
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on November 02, 2010, 07:58:24 AM
Quote from: CHC;724150:Thumbs-up Yes- RED pinstripe added by myself, just to add a little something and match the interior colour. Sets it off quite well I thought.
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Just admiring your car Cliff, it\'s a credit to you. I too have the red piping on my white fb which was added by the previous owner but again I think it set\'s it off. Just wondered what the make of your back box is and is it quiet?
Paul
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 11:08:21 AM
Morning Paul, isn\'t it amazing what an extra 1/4" can do to the male ego (boy sticky tape is good). Don\'t know the make of the rear box but will look to see, as to it\'s noise level - well actually it isn\'t that bad at all. Let you know more on the noise later.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 11:42:44 AM
Well guys, due to a change in circumstances I\'ve had to bring forward the health check date - just taken JAZ for her MOT. Keep fingers crossed for me :eek::eek::eek:
The point being, if anything is wrong I\'d sooner know now rather than later when it is too late.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 02, 2010, 12:02:46 PM
Good luck,gulp!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 12:05:10 PM
All Crossed Cliff.......
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 02:41:45 PM
Dear Inspector Nock, could you please update the forum members on the total number of S2 FB\'s that are currently roadworthy and add JAZ to this list - PASSED MOT with no advisories :Party:Party
Just need to pay for the old road fund then it\'s :3gears-rhfor me.
I\'d also just like to thank all persons whom without their technical knowledge, useful tips and the odd component here and there would have made my task a hell of a lot harder, so to all you guys :cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 02, 2010, 02:46:08 PM
Well done mate, I didnt expect anything else :driving
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 02:49:53 PM
Cheers Keith, I was hoping that I hadn\'t missed anything - which to be truthful I had (the front number plate was honeycomb type so dipped, new already fitted) although not mechanical or structural issues but boy was I on pins - it\'s just the unknown element that gets to you. Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 02, 2010, 03:00:42 PM
Well done Cliff now\'s the time to enjoy ............... seeing a man about my clutch tonight.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 02, 2010, 03:26:25 PM
That\'s great news Cliff! I bet you had a smile from ear to ear driving back home. Well done mate, really pleased for you!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 02, 2010, 04:08:15 PM
Quote from: CHC;724635Dear Inspector Nock, could you please update the forum members on the total number of S2 FB\'s that are currently roadworthy and add JAZ to this list - PASSED MOT with no advisories :Party:Party
Just need to pay for the old road fund then it\'s :3gears-rhfor me.
I\'d also just like to thank all persons whom without their technical knowledge, useful tips and the odd component here and there would have made my task a hell of a lot harder, so to all you guys :cheers
Well done,your hard works paid off,now you should buy some oil shares! ta stu..:3gears-lh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on November 02, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
Awesome :) Now get out there and drive! I think we need action photos!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 05:25:33 PM
Great News Cliff!! Raining Mate....GET JAZ UNDER COVER!!!!
I\'ve moved JAZ into Roadgoing/Rally..............25 Series 2 cars in there.
in SORN/Project..........................................39 Series 2 cars
and in Unknown (No Reg)..............................7 Series 2 cars
There has been next to no change in the numbers of all the Series 1,2,3 over the last few weeks. Something tells me it will be spring again before we see the numbers moving much again.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 02, 2010, 06:26:29 PM
very cheap series 2 project just popped up on ebay £150 start...... £350 buy it now
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 02, 2010, 06:58:23 PM
Is that a glass roof I spy or is it just black ??? The add made me laugh "its a rotary so lots of torque" :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 02, 2010, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;724689Is that a glass roof I spy or is it just black ???
I thought it was a glass roof but then the panel over the wiper motors has been painted black so it could just be painted....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 02, 2010, 07:29:15 PM
& as the car is of 1984 vintage,he thinks it may be tax exempt.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 02, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
No I think all cars have to be pre 1973 to be exempt. I bet the other car he talks about in his write up was black.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 02, 2010, 07:38:19 PM
That is correct,the gov abolished the 25 year old tax exempt status & fixed a date 1973.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 02, 2010, 07:40:56 PM
Never ceases to amaze me how ill informed some peeps are,would have taken him 30 secs to google it & as for the rotary being a torquey engine?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 02, 2010, 08:03:22 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;724696No I think all cars have to be pre 1973 to be exempt. I bet the other car he talks about in his write up was black.
That\'s a very astute observation Dibbs! How come I didn\'t think of that?! Accounts for the \'glass roof\' then!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 02, 2010, 08:59:42 PM
There\'s no fool like an old fool ..................and I should know
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 11:48:15 PM
Thanks for all the congrats guys, loved doing all the work and definitely worth it - yes by the way, the drive is how I remembered, fantastic. It\'s also so special to see so many people ogling as you drive along or sit waiting in traffic. These cars are still eye catching. Lets get more of them back in roadworthy condition I say. :driving
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;724696No I think all cars have to be pre 1973 to be exempt. I bet the other car he talks about in his write up was black.
Yeh spot on Dibs, any vehicle manufactured before 1st Jan 1973 is tax exempt. Of cause this would have continued but for b***dy politicians realising more and more people were restoring the older vehicle and they would loose revenue so they scrapped this in 1998. Surely sometime in the future they\'ll have to do a U turn on this scheme? :confused:
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 02, 2010, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: David Nock;724664Great News Cliff!! Raining Mate....GET JAZ UNDER COVER!!!!
I\'ve moved JAZ into Roadgoing/Rally..............25 Series 2 cars in there.
in SORN/Project..........................................39 Series 2 cars
and in Unknown (No Reg)..............................7 Series 2 cars
There has been next to no change in the numbers of all the Series 1,2,3 over the last few weeks. Something tells me it will be spring again before we see the numbers moving much again.
Thanks for the undated figures Dave, must admit I\'m very proud to be no. 25 on this prestigious listing.
Damn weather has been very good for me this year but should have known it would rain (actually not just rain it has b****y poured down here all day) and yes JAZ is now under cover - don\'t want her shrinking after all my hard work. :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on November 03, 2010, 08:55:51 AM
Dammit that ebay listing means 3 gold ones about. There goes my exclusivity :P
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
Quote from: Ian65;724677very cheap series 2 project just popped up on ebay £150 start...... £350 buy it now
Picked up earlier this year....in the SORN/Project numbers above
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 03, 2010, 08:19:01 PM
looks like someones done a deal for it then... no longer on ebay.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: Ian65;724851looks like someones done a deal for it then... no longer on ebay.
Sure did Ian :D:D - enjoyed restoring JAZ so much that I thought, why not. So I\'ll be picking her up this weekend - now project no. 3, shall have to think of a name for her.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: David Nock;724664Great News Cliff!! Raining Mate....GET JAZ UNDER COVER!!!!
I\'ve moved JAZ into Roadgoing/Rally..............25 Series 2 cars in there.
in SORN/Project..........................................39 Series 2 cars
and in Unknown (No Reg)..............................7 Series 2 cars
There has been next to no change in the numbers of all the Series 1,2,3 over the last few weeks. Something tells me it will be spring again before we see the numbers moving much again.
Hi Dave, will give you the details on the Cheltenham Gold RX7 over the weekend.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 09:14:32 PM
Quote from: CHC;724856Sure did Ian :D:D - enjoyed restoring JAZ so much that I thought, why not. So I\'ll be picking her up this weekend - now project no. 3, shall have to think of a name for her.
Just been decided - Goldie! chosen by my wife who incidentally might have this one.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on November 03, 2010, 09:18:53 PM
Have watched this restoration with interest, pleased for you to be so happy, Jaz is now even better than the last time I saw it, so glad it did not end up forgotten in a corner.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 03, 2010, 09:27:39 PM
Well done Cliff, you dont mess about do you. Good to see another 1st gen in safe hands. Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on November 03, 2010, 09:34:36 PM
Quote from: CHC;724856Sure did Ian :D:D - enjoyed restoring JAZ so much that I thought, why not. So I\'ll be picking her up this weekend - now project no. 3, shall have to think of a name for her.
Can\'t wait to follow the progress of her Cliff, you must be lucky think my wife would divorce me if I turned up with another one. :Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 03, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
looking forward to the new \'GOLDIE\' thread! It\'s great to get a new project.... I\'ve done loads and still get a buzz out of fetching one home and getting stuck in! Well done Cliff.... !!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 03, 2010, 10:38:54 PM
Quote from: CHC;724856Sure did Ian :D:D - enjoyed restoring JAZ so much that I thought, why not. So I\'ll be picking her up this weekend - now project no. 3, shall have to think of a name for her.
Xloody xell,another 1!:2eek If u keep this up 1st gens will become common!:rolleyes: ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: syebba;724884Xloody xell,another 1!:2eek If u keep this up 1st gens will become common!:rolleyes: ta stu..
Now there\'s a nice thought ! Thanks Stu :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 11:27:23 PM
Quote from: daverey;724859Have watched this restoration with interest, pleased for you to be so happy, Jaz is now even better than the last time I saw it, so glad it did not end up forgotten in a corner.
Thats a very nice comment Dave and very much appreciated, it was such a pleasure to do even though at times it was quite intensive but most defintely worth it. I\'m looking forward to the "Goldie" project now - probably in spring 2011.
Cliff :cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 11:30:11 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;724861Well done Cliff, you dont mess about do you. Good to see another 1st gen in safe hands. Keith...
Thanks, know what I want and I go for it Keith, my wife says \'I can\'t save them all\' but hell I\'m gonna try mate. Cliff :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 03, 2010, 11:36:11 PM
Quote from: Ian65;724865looking forward to the new \'GOLDIE\' thread! It\'s great to get a new project.... I\'ve done loads and still get a buzz out of fetching one home and getting stuck in! Well done Cliff.... !!!
Me too Ian, in fact my wife is also as this one will probably be hers. As I have said previously, I really do like the lighter coloured rexs\', I think the shape suits them and they can be more readilly seen by the public - show them off I say. JAZ was my 1st and most definitely will not be my last, roll on spring 2011 but will post photos on new thread coming soon !
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 04, 2010, 06:45:23 AM
Well well well ........... here we go again, great news Cliff.
Are you sure its for the wife and not a 13B turbo ................
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 04, 2010, 07:50:01 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;724915Well well well ........... here we go again, great news Cliff.
Are you sure its for the wife and not a 13B turbo ................
Dibs
At this particular moment yes ....... but ........ The thing is guys (and correct me by all means if I\'m wrong), once it gets into your system, apart from \'er in doors nothing else seems to matter.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 04, 2010, 10:05:26 AM
Good Work Cliff...I\'ve got Goldies Reg but not the VIN.
The seller in Cheltenham is the one guy out of scores of other contacts that I seriously upset last spring whilst poking about for details. When you meet him tell him I\'m not the xanker he thinks I am. (I might be but that\'s just for me to know)!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 04, 2010, 01:25:43 PM
Quote from: David Nock;724942Good Work Cliff...I\'ve got Goldies Reg but not the VIN.
The seller in Cheltenham is the one guy out of scores of other contacts that I seriously upset last spring whilst poking about for details. When you meet him tell him I\'m not the xanker he thinks I am. (I might be but that\'s just for me to know)!
No worries Dave, you soon will have that number and I\'m sure he didn\'t really think that but I\'ll talk to him anyway. It\'s nice to see cars being protetced by true enthusiasts.
Oh by the way - Rossendale deal, l\'ve pulled out of, far to complicated and I think (unless somebody wants a track car rather than a roadworthy one) it will be scrapped. It will probably be going back on eBay any day now.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ROTARYBANDIT on November 05, 2010, 04:10:54 PM
Hello!I just bought this 1980 for $500.It runs,but when the guy I got it from started it up it went to 4000 rpm and he gave up!So I took a chance,bought it,towed it home and found the problem.It was the hot start valve stuck open.I took the cable off and now it\'s only at 2000 rpm(he messed with the carb trying to fix it)but no worries,I\'m slowly going threw it and reading my Haynes man.I\'m 38 and this is my first rotary but I\'m already learning alot from reading these posts and the more I learn the more I LOVE this car!Anyway I just wanted to say hello.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on November 05, 2010, 05:37:10 PM
Hi mate, and welcome :)
Oddly enough, I bought my FB at the young age of 38 too :D
It\'s hard not to fall in love with these things...I swear at mine quite often...but I\'d kill, or at least seriously injure, anyone that tried to take it from me :Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 05, 2010, 08:59:40 PM
Quote from: ROTARYBANDIT;725178Hello!I just bought this 1980 for $500.It runs,but when the guy I got it from started it up it went to 4000 rpm and he gave up!So I took a chance,bought it,towed it home and found the problem.It was the hot start valve stuck open.I took the cable off and now it\'s only at 2000 rpm(he messed with the carb trying to fix it)but no worries,I\'m slowly going threw it and reading my Haynes man.I\'m 38 and this is my first rotary but I\'m already learning alot from reading these posts and the more I learn the more I LOVE this car!Anyway I just wanted to say hello.
Hi Bandit & welcome friend. Very nice looking SA with a huge whip aerial (I take it it is a one piece unit) Looks to be a RHD or are my eyes deceiving me ? In Dallas ? Cliff :cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ROTARYBANDIT on November 05, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
Thanks everybody!It is a left hand drive 5 speed 12a.The last owner was driving it daily until just a month ago when the hot start thing got stuck. Not knowing that he started adjusting the carburetor all over the place but as he told me,it didn\'t help.I found the problem and now I just need to reset the carb(undo what he did trying to fix it)lol. I don\'t mind,I have a $500.RX7 with new tires,brakes,clutch and it even came with a new dash top!I\'ll be sure to post more pics soon. What does everybody think about the sterling nikki?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 06, 2010, 12:39:21 AM
Hi Bandit, welcome to the mad house. Great looking car you got there and a bargain price to, cant be bad. Sterling nikki is a great set-up but will take a bit of getting used to, great if you are thrashing round all the time, not so good for sitting in slow moving traffic. So get the sterling and thrash around :chat
Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 06, 2010, 10:30:26 AM
RB the thing is a Sterling will cost you almost as much as the car, I\'d fix the one you have, as when you get into this rotary thing you may want to add a turbo ........
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ROTARYBANDIT on November 06, 2010, 12:48:46 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;725268RB the thing is a Sterling will cost you almost as much as the car, I\'d fix the one you have, as when you get into this rotary thing you may want to add a turbo ........
Turbo!Now we\'re talking!:3gears-rh All in do time,like you said,let me get it back on the road first.I\'m sure once I start driving it I\'m just gunna want to make it faster and faster.I have a bad habbit of blowing all my money on cars,I was into VW\'s.Here is picture of my last build.A 1965 beetle that was just a shell when I started.I sold it last year along with all my other vw stuff.Can\'t wait to get into rotarys.:cool
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 06, 2010, 01:54:16 PM
Sounds like you could get well and truly bitten ...............
Here\'s a pic of a new carb I picked up about a year ago, they are as rare as hens teeth.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 06, 2010, 10:15:52 PM
Quote from: ROTARYBANDIT;725280Turbo!Now we\'re talking!:3gears-rh All in do time,like you said,let me get it back on the road first.I\'m sure once I start driving it I\'m just gunna want to make it faster and faster.I have a bad habbit of blowing all my money on cars,I was into VW\'s.Here is picture of my last build.A 1965 beetle that was just a shell when I started.I sold it last year along with all my other vw stuff.Can\'t wait to get into rotarys.:cool
Like the reggo of the red VW bandit - did you sell it onto a Phone Company ? Must have been worth a mint or at least a Sterling Nikki ! Failing that you could have sold it onto an ex England football manager.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 06, 2010, 10:25:47 PM
Goldie - Bought & collected 6th Nov 2010 :Tongue1
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 06, 2010, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;725357Love that matt black bug....
Congrats on getting goldie back safe Cliff-someone should\'ve confiscated the rattlecan from the PO though!
Isn\'t this always the problem with rattle cans - give some people a can and they just have to empty it, doesn\'t matter if its not required but they just have to finish the can off.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 06, 2010, 11:28:47 PM
I\'ll try and go through the spare bits tomorrow and see if anything special can be found - such as an electric aerial (I\'ve not a total list of parts but up to now it would seem that I have spare seats [front & rear] in black cloth with red stripe, door cards).
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Post by: ROTARYBANDIT on November 06, 2010, 11:52:07 PM
Quote from: CHC;725365Isn\'t this always the problem with rattle cans - give some people a can and they just have to empty it, doesn\'t matter if its not required but they just have to finish the can off.
Lol!Hey,that was a metallic hot pink shell when I started!I think it turned out great(better than hot pink anyway) It only took 8 cans of ulta flat camo green and yes,I emptied them all.:rollin I\'ll be posting better pics of the rx7 tomarrow so you all can see what I\'m starting with.Not going to rattle can it,don\'t worry.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 06, 2010, 11:58:42 PM
Quote from: CHC;725366I\'ll try and go through the spare bits tomorrow and see if anything special can be found - such as an electric aerial (I\'ve not a total list of parts but up to now it would seem that I have spare seats [front & rear] in black cloth with red stripe, door cards).
Sorry guys - wrong thread. Didn\'t mean to hi-jack this thread ......oops.! :o
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Post by: ROTARYBANDIT on November 07, 2010, 12:01:07 AM
Quote from: CHC;725352Like the reggo of the red VW bandit - did you sell it onto a Phone Company ? Must have been worth a mint or at least a Sterling Nikki ! Failing that you could have sold it onto an ex England football manager.
I still have that.It was a display in a mall.gunna make a bbq someday!lol:flamed
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ROTARYBANDIT on November 07, 2010, 12:06:03 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;725292Sounds like you could get well and truly bitten ...............
Here\'s a pic of a new carb I picked up about a year ago, they are as rare as hens teeth.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 11, 2010, 06:47:09 PM
Bit of a drought on Fb\'s at the mo,seems their dragged out & put on ebay for the summer months.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on November 11, 2010, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: CHC;720229Hi John - don\'t keep us in suspenders, how did your Rex get on? I\'m sure we are all sitting here holding our breath. Cliff
Well Hi Guys, it has been a while....
Sorry to have been away (learning to windsurf on a Greek island, coming back to a panic at work, working 12 hour days etc...), but I see you have been having plenty of fun without me.
You will I hope be happy with me that our Elford passed its MOT and is back on the road.
New front disks (£64 from your friendly Unipart Automotive branch), new pads front and rear (£25 ditto) plus £45 of welding. Not bad for a 28 year old car that has been parked up for 5 years! (though I am a bit worried about perished tyres...).
I took it for a drive for the first time in 5 years and was amazed all over again at how nice these RX7\'s are to drive. Plenty powerful enough for me, amazing visibility compared to a modern car (thin windscreen pillars, low dashboard line, low boot line). Not so pleased with the door mirror -singular on an S2 - so I was interested to read past comments about Austrailian versions. I was also surprised / pleased at the reaction of two other drivers who waved (no, not two fingers..) and generally indicated that they thought it was interesting / pretty car - which it is!
Took it up to Ian last week so he could look at the Elford wiring / solenoids. Thanks for a very pleasant afternoon and cup of tea Ian! Can anyone confirm what the "ETL" box actually does? We think it controls the slow dim on the interior light and might act as a rev limiter but nothing else - which doesn\'t sound right. Anybody know different?.
By the bye, Ians cars are amazing!. The work he does on them is beautiful. My embarrassment at having to open the bonnet on ours.... maybe I will do some restoration over the winter....
Anyway, thanks for your forum - most enjoyable. How do you guys find the time to both type and work on cars?
Bye. John
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 12, 2010, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: syebba;726217Bit of a drought on Fb\'s at the mo,seems their dragged out & put on ebay for the summer months.
@Stu I think a lot went unsold, still with their vendors? I do keep details (you would expect no less now would you guys)?
So If anyone needed to back track on a car they fancied I would hope I could help.
@ JohnnyboyFinding Time, it helps to.....1) be Retired and..... 2) do next to no travelling about.....wears yer car out and means repairs man :eek
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 13, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 13, 2010, 10:35:03 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;726222Well Hi Guys, it has been a while....
Sorry to have been away (learning to windsurf on a Greek island, coming back to a panic at work, working 12 hour days etc...), but I see you have been having plenty of fun without me.
You will I hope be happy with me that our Elford passed its MOT and is back on the road.
New front disks (£64 from your friendly Unipart Automotive branch), new pads front and rear (£25 ditto) plus £45 of welding. Not bad for a 28 year old car that has been parked up for 5 years! (though I am a bit worried about perished tyres...).
I took it for a drive for the first time in 5 years and was amazed all over again at how nice these RX7\'s are to drive. Plenty powerful enough for me, amazing visibility compared to a modern car (thin windscreen pillars, low dashboard line, low boot line). Not so pleased with the door mirror -singular on an S2 - so I was interested to read past comments about Austrailian versions. I was also surprised / pleased at the reaction of two other drivers who waved (no, not two fingers..) and generally indicated that they thought it was interesting / pretty car - which it is!
Took it up to Ian last week so he could look at the Elford wiring / solenoids. Thanks for a very pleasant afternoon and cup of tea Ian! Can anyone confirm what the "ETL" box actually does? We think it controls the slow dim on the interior light and might act as a rev limiter but nothing else - which doesn\'t sound right. Anybody know different?.
By the bye, Ians cars are amazing!. The work he does on them is beautiful. My embarrassment at having to open the bonnet on ours.... maybe I will do some restoration over the winter....
Anyway, thanks for your forum - most enjoyable. How do you guys find the time to both type and work on cars?
Bye. John
Was good to hear John that Rex went through MOT despite requiring a few jobs - keep \'em on the road I say. Totally agree with you about that special feeling of being behind the wheel a following an absence - mine was over 21 years when I bought JAZ in March this year and found it quite hard having a further 7 months of frustration before being able to drive again - blissfull, these\'s no other feeling like it. Typing and working mate? I think its the \'friendship\' and helping others that drives us to this - well it is for me, it\'s not a chore at all! :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 16, 2010, 11:39:50 AM
On \'The Other Club\'..Ex\'le.
Decent looking Opal Green S3 in Worcestershire. Good Price £450 but engine needs some TLC by the sound of the write up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 16, 2010, 03:03:35 PM
White C327 MAU ? BACK ON PISTONHEADS
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2040406.htm
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 16, 2010, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: David Nock;727212On \'The Other Club\'..Ex\'le.
Decent looking Opal Green S3 in Worcestershire. Good Price £450 but engine needs some TLC by the sound of the write up.
good project for someone.... won\'t be around for long at that price...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 16, 2010, 10:03:40 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;727292White C327 MAU ? BACK ON PISTONHEADS
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2040406.htm
now on ebay £1995 no res...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on November 16, 2010, 10:22:45 PM
Electric aerial on ebay Item number: 320618301885, Daverey p.s. did anyone on here get the petrol tank?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 16, 2010, 10:57:30 PM
Quote from: daverey;727394Electric aerial on ebay Item number: 320618301885, Daverey p.s. did anyone on here get the petrol tank?
I think we should give Dibs first dibs :Giggle Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 16, 2010, 10:58:23 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;727397I think we should give Dibs first dibs :Giggle Keith...
Already have but he\'s already found one...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 16, 2010, 11:34:32 PM
Quote from: Ian65;727391now on ebay £1995 no res...
Looks to be very smart fb.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 17, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
Seen in York 16th Nov, JAZ 7007, on a Merc Sports Car....Good company Cliff.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 17, 2010, 12:00:27 PM
And by the way, the White S3 in Rossendale Lancs is breaking again on ebay.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 17, 2010, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: David Nock;727534And by the way, the White S3 in Rossendale Lancs is breaking again on ebay.
No engine or radiator in this but I believe he has the 12A for sale as a none runner. Incidentally doors are already sold (to me) and a few bits and pieces from internal have gone.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 17, 2010, 06:04:20 PM
Quote from: David Nock;727533Seen in York 16th Nov, JAZ 7007, on a Merc Sports Car....Good company Cliff.
At least mine came with the car or you could possibly say that I bought the registration plate and had a car thrown in for free. :cool
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 19, 2010, 12:03:00 PM
Graham Potter of Rotechnic\'s former car (1985) back on pistonheads.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2090960.htm
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on November 19, 2010, 12:47:47 PM
David does this reg still exist? http://www.rallyretro.com/detailedview.asp?PicID=4416&Event=Circuit%20of%20Ireland%20International%20Rally&Year=1983
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 19, 2010, 01:08:54 PM
Quote from: gnj37;728191David does this reg still exist? http://www.rallyretro.com/detailedview.asp?PicID=4416&Event=Circuit%20of%20Ireland%20International%20Rally&Year=1983
October 1981 car. Got it down as most likely scrapped Gary. Although it\'s been unlicensed since 1988 I noted it as rallying in Scotland in 1992 (Chris Lord again). I\'ve nothing later written about it.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 19, 2010, 04:25:23 PM
it\'s B584 BHS, sold on ebay in the spring.... had mot but a bit of a heap with the front wing bashed in. It had the engine and box taken out of it for a project and the rest of the car\'s being broken..... shame really
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 22, 2010, 12:05:36 PM
From this angle she looks quite tidy - is it repairable though?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 22, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
It didn\'t look like a scrapper but it\'s been offered for parts since July.
141,000 miles - Glen, Nottingham 07896217230
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 22, 2010, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: CHC;729054From this angle she looks quite tidy - is it repairable though?
I can tell what cliffs thinking,now if only there were more hours in the day & if i had more room,i could .... .. !:rolleyes:
Does look tidy,but it\'s only a pic. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 22, 2010, 01:37:50 PM
It was best described as \'scruffy\' but it had a mot so how bad could it have been?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on November 22, 2010, 01:41:27 PM
That would depend on the MOT tester..... and whether a couple of packs of beers were left on the back seat when it was dropped off at the MOT place...
(only joking ! :P)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 22, 2010, 11:05:44 PM
Quote from: syebba;729060I can tell what cliffs thinking,now if only there were more hours in the day & if i had more room,i could .... .. !:rolleyes:
Does look tidy,but it\'s only a pic. ta stu..
Can my mind be read that easily? Noooo, She who Must be Obeyed can\'t get to the freezer now so not much chance of project no. 4 yet - but if it had been a Series 2 .... well perhaps???
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 22, 2010, 11:12:07 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;729076That would depend on the MOT tester..... and whether a couple of packs of beers were left on the back seat when it was dropped off at the MOT place...
(only joking ! :P)
Not that I\'m suggesting this type of scenario actually happened but I wouldn\'t have thought it possible these days with red tape and \'test\' vehicles being more prolific. To be frank (thought of changing my name via deed poll) I prefer a stricter testing station, at least then I know exactly what potentially is a problem so it can be fixed sooner rather than later.
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Post by: Steve-A on November 22, 2010, 11:29:25 PM
Yeh, I\'m sure it very rarely happened like that.
That said the last mx5 I bought had been through an MOT days before I bought it at a friend of the previous owner\'s garage and had a shot rear wheel bearing and the handbrake only worked on one wheel and a couple of other MOT type issues and passed with no advisories..... I think there are things they can turn a blind eye to, but things like the brake test and emissions they can\'t. And as you say with various test vehicles about they are less keen to do favours for people.
I know what you mean about liking a strict test. It\'s a nice confidence boost as you drive up the road that someone has tested that the brakes are good enough!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 22, 2010, 11:40:41 PM
The fact is your vehicle is only roadworthy at the time of test and has happened probably on many occassions, you drive away from the test station and something can fail. I heard a tale many years ago of a woman who\'s car had just passed it\'s MOT - she drove off the forcourt and ran straight into a crowded bus stop. When checked her brakes had failed! The test station refused responsibility on the above grounds and got away with it - makes you wonder??
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 23, 2010, 06:05:01 AM
10 years ago, mot\'s weren\'t really a great indicator of a vehicles roadworthiness and there was widespread abuse of the system. I knew of 3 garages locally that would issue a snide mot without even seeing the car.... all they needed was a copy of the log book and whatever milage was required. There were also people using stolen certs and others washing the certs in brake fluid etc. Since it\'s all gone computerised, it seems to have killed most of that off and that\'s a good thing. With the online vosa check, we can also check back over the last few years to see what ( if any) issues a car may have had.
When I take my wife and kids out in a car, I want to know it\'s sound. The testing station I use is at a transport company and they test only, they don\'t do any repairs which means I get an unbiased check. Take your car to Kwikfit and it\'s gonna fail on tyres, brakes, exhaust, shocks etc.... the stuff they want to sell you. ( not that anyone from Kwikfit would ever get within 10ft of my car armed with a spanner) Going back to the RX7 above, it looked like it needed some cosmetic tlc but if it passed an mot 6 months or so earlier, I would assume that any corrosion would be recoverable / repairable. Anything else is just bolt on / off. Once it\'s robbed of it\'s engine and box though a tatty car becomes a much less attractive proposition. Shame really..... another 1 bites the dust.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 23, 2010, 09:04:34 AM
With you all the way on points raised Ian. :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 23, 2010, 09:18:39 AM
My only problem is I hate to see a car going for scrap - once it\'s gone, it\'s gone. But to pick up as a repairable there\'s always a way of extending it\'s life. A lot of previous owners only wanted to own them while they were good and as soon as they started going downhill they weren\'t prepared to expend time and money to rejuvenate them for the pleasure of others as well as themselves - this is probably the main reason for the declining RX7 numbers throughout the years. That\'s why it\'s up to the forum members/present owners to do our part for motoring history and to keep these fine machines in roadworthy condition and having done so give them the exposure they deserve, have a few \'meets\' and go to some shows/special meetings - remember Beaulieu is coming up in July 2011 ! Hows about it guys? :Thumbs-up
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 23, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: David Nock;726538On ebay previous, Ref 290499843028
Didn\'t make reserve. Best Bid £310.....what a shame.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 23, 2010, 07:59:01 PM
Quote from: David Nock;729324Didn\'t make reserve. Best Bid £310.....what a shame.
It\'s not a good time for selling RX7\'s obviously. :(
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 23, 2010, 09:32:39 PM
I\'ve absolutely no faith in MOT\'s at all-all that bit of paper states is that car passed some set parameters at that given time. Very much like electrical Portable Appliance Testing-proves something for one day only but is irrelavant for the remainder of the year.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 23, 2010, 10:40:45 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;729380I\'ve absolutely no faith in MOT\'s at all-all that bit of paper states is that car passed some set parameters at that given time. Very much like electrical Portable Appliance Testing-proves something for one day only but is irrelavant for the remainder of the year.
Nevertheless, if we want to be legal, we have to have them. In fact, I\'m told \'in some Australian states they don\'t need to have road worthy certificates\' - how does that work? :confused:
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Post by: captainbizzaro on November 23, 2010, 10:49:05 PM
Quote from: CHC;729398Nevertheless, if we want to be legal, we have to have them.
Not disputing that mate!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on November 23, 2010, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: CHC;729398Nevertheless, if we want to be legal, we have to have them. In fact, I\'m told \'in some Australian states they don\'t need to have road worthy certificates\' - how does that work? :confused:
Dont have them in Jersey either, good job they all drive new Rollers!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 23, 2010, 11:07:11 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;729402
Quote from: CHC;729398Nevertheless, if we want to be legal, we have to have them.
Not disputing that mate!
Only making a comment Tim - not pointing fingers or anything else, they are necessary for our own safety and other road users but the government make a point of profitering from this mandatory requirement. There\'s always somebody out there waiting to screw us - the motorists!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 23, 2010, 11:11:09 PM
Tell me about it, our vans are all due at the same time and at £54 odd a pop it\'s a bit rude-can\'t even claim any VAT on them. Gotta love VOSA.
Didn\'t know that about Jersey Keith-you\'re right though, none of them have a car over three years old anyhow!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on November 24, 2010, 01:02:03 PM
Isle of Mann is the same.
I enjoy taking it to a friend, I know that he is straight with it and I can watch all the checks while he is doing them because he will point out any niggles too. He did say I need to improve my welding skills though ! Although got plenty of practice this year !
Shaun
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Post by: A7RXY on November 24, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
Shaun
Are there any photos fo your gen 1 anywhere ?
Dibs
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Post by: Ian65 on November 24, 2010, 03:50:04 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on November 24, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
Those are properley old photos ! Video of the car at rotostock on the handling course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baQXkwHWXus&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I\'ll dig some more photos out.
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 24, 2010, 05:41:21 PM
Nice shot of Albans Elford there aswell with Shauns S3.
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Post by: A7RXY on November 24, 2010, 06:22:35 PM
Thanks Shaun/Ian, you boys do like your black cars ..............
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Post by: shaunwil on November 24, 2010, 06:50:49 PM
They are nice in black ! My FD is the best colour too in White :D
Another image : (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/shaunwil/DSCF0272.jpg)
Haven\'t got that many photos of the 1st gen !
Shaun
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Post by: syebba on November 24, 2010, 07:54:01 PM
Looks nice shaun,what size wheels,look approx 16>17"? tyre size over 205\'s? ta stu..
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Post by: shaunwil on November 24, 2010, 08:08:50 PM
They are 17\'s. Can\'t remember the width, either 195 or 205 !
Shaun
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 24, 2010, 08:28:51 PM
Nice looking motor Shaun - I see why you & Ian like this colour. :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 26, 2010, 11:08:55 AM
Quote from: Ian65;728977correct! I had a good look around this car back in the summer and it\'s a fair buy for that kind of money.
Looks as if MAU has been sold - somebody has got themselves a good motor, anybody at the MRC by chance?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 26, 2010, 01:34:01 PM
Quote from: David Nock;727212On \'The Other Club\'..Ex\'le.
Decent looking Opal Green S3 in Worcestershire. Good Price £450 but engine needs some TLC by the sound of the write up.
So has this one (been sold), somewhere within Ex\'le Club.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 26, 2010, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: CHC;729814Looks as if MAU has been sold - somebody has got themselves a good motor, anybody at the MRC by chance?
It\'s still on pistonheads,maybe have\'nt had time to take advert down.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 26, 2010, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: syebba;729841It\'s still on pistonheads,maybe have\'nt had time to take advert down.
Possibly, eBay advert states \'No longer available for sale - awaiting payment\' - could be it has sold via pistonheads then but just to be certain of a sale he\'s leaving it on till cash in hand. I\'ll email him to find out.
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Post by: syebba on November 26, 2010, 01:48:25 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 26, 2010, 05:12:45 PM
Ho Ho, beat yah by a minute Ian. :wave
I can\'t always get the pics I want from ebay to my desktop, that\'s why I use references. Glad you can get the pics.
A nice 14mm red coach line 51.4 mm above the rubbing strip would just set that car off a treat.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 26, 2010, 05:13:29 PM
I see \'LRU\' sold for £670 today - be nice if it shows up here with a forum member.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 26, 2010, 05:19:17 PM
I knew that car very well (WEV) at one time, it was owned by Alan Rees and I know he used to look after it well, but alas that was 10 to 15 years ago.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 26, 2010, 05:22:45 PM
You mean WEV Dibs....
Yes I\'ve got it down as ex Alan Rees. Didn\'t he .....(don\'t like to use the word \'die\'). We\'re all immortal on this Club though....please tell me \'tis so.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 26, 2010, 05:27:59 PM
Quote from: David Nock;729908Ho Ho, beat yah by a minute Ian. :wave
I can\'t always get the pics I want from ebay to my desktop, that\'s why I use references. Glad you can get the pics.
it was while I was uploading and linking the pictures that you sneaked past me on the home straight...... drat and double drat!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 26, 2010, 05:29:47 PM
Dave I dont I did try to cotact him a few years ago, but he no longer lived in the house I knew, and to be honest I did not want to delve any further.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 26, 2010, 05:42:24 PM
Hmmmmm,RX motors may be closing down or just a clearout?
Ian is hard to beat,just when you think you\'ll be the 1st to post,you\'ll find your not when you hit the submit button!Sure he finds it amusing.
ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 26, 2010, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: David Nock;729905Trouble is the usual back end sill rot, but quite a bit. Tim makes the point that a looked after car unwelded is better than a bodge job......
As you\'d expect, Tim is spot on. If 2 cars are in pretty much comparable condition,it\'s much better to buy an untouched car than one someones bodged or done a half assed restoration on. The points of reference for letting in the new metalwork should all be as it left the factory and there is less chance of distortion in the shell. It\'s twice as much work trying to correct someone elses bodge. This car looks as if it\'s well worth the effort to bring it\'s condition back up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 26, 2010, 05:54:57 PM
Quote from: Ian65;729921As you\'d expect, Tim is spot on. If 2 cars are in pretty much comparable condition,it\'s much better to buy an untouched car than one someones bodged or done a half assed restoration on. The points of reference for letting in the new metalwork should all be as it left the factory and there is less chance of distortion in the shell. It\'s twice as much work trying to correct someone elses bodge. This car looks as if it\'s well worth the effort to bring it\'s condition back up.
Definitely looks good for somebody - alas not for me. Yes Ian, Tim is right, I think perhaps I might have a half bodged job with Goldie but nevertheless will battle on and get her right.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 26, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
Don\'t think Tim is closing down-just running out of room. 1st gen paradise that place.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 26, 2010, 06:20:59 PM
Has Tim at RX motors got any S1\'s?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 26, 2010, 06:24:29 PM
Yeah but not sure whether they belong to him-there is a metallic jadey colour green one there but unsure of any details.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 27, 2010, 12:38:10 PM
Quote from: Timrxmotors;664320All these are no longer taxed,but are not going for scrap. Series 1,Q193 RYT,and one unreg LHD. Series 2,FLB 107Y,TAL 7X,EPR 160Y,YLW 58X,A980 KKJ Series 3,C711 RGW,C321 TGU,B689 FOC,A1 GCE,B983 SKR,C198 KVX,B677 AOG,A543 LRU,B338 WEV and a series 2 still on the road,VRU 44X
This was Tim\'s Post last January.
Q193 RYT is Purple, The Unreg is Gunmetal Grey and also Tim was expecting a Green S1 at that time. I don\'t have the Green one\'s Reg if anyones going down there.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: TRIND-FD on November 27, 2010, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: David Nock;730035This was Tim\'s Post last January.
Q193 RYT is Purple, The Unreg is Gunmetal Grey and also Tim was expecting a Green S1 at that time. I don\'t have the Green one\'s Reg if anyones going down there.
went today , and just seen your request, its a very funny green.
keith.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 27, 2010, 04:50:38 PM
Hmmm....Only got 1 Green S1 on my books and that\'s Two Tone Green; I thought it was in Leicestershire.
I\'m wondering whether to add another S1 of \'Purest Green\' to my record. I think I will, at least until a spot comes up with it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 27, 2010, 05:23:16 PM
I\'ve probably got to pop there this week, if Tim gives permission I\'ll take a picture of it for you.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RX7heaven on November 27, 2010, 05:38:22 PM
The more 1st generation rx7s I see the more I would like one, nice to see a thread where they are being recorded.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 27, 2010, 05:47:58 PM
Quote from: RX7heaven;730081The more 1st generation rx7s I see the more I would like one, nice to see a thread where they are being recorded.
Well now is definately the time to buy one!:King
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 27, 2010, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: RX7heaven;730081The more 1st generation rx7s I see the more I would like one, nice to see a thread where they are being recorded.
Dave Nock\'s doing a G8 job of recording them.
There\'s a lot being scrapped,despite there being not that many left,i think under 280 in total,dave posts up his findings every few months or so.
1st gens are G8 cars,easy to work on,50/50 weight,look sleek,easily modified to go faster.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on November 27, 2010, 06:29:14 PM
A Q reg S1,interesting! ta stu.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on November 27, 2010, 06:57:43 PM
I really like the green S1 he has there.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 27, 2010, 08:06:00 PM
Quote from: CHC;729843Possibly, eBay advert states \'No longer available for sale - awaiting payment\' - could be it has sold via pistonheads then but just to be certain of a sale he\'s leaving it on till cash in hand. I\'ll email him to find out.
Yep - MAU changed ownership this afternoon. Has been sold to an enthusiast so hopefully will show up on the forum. Despite the downward trend it went for a good price but in fairness it is a lot of car for the purchase price. Moving to Yorkshire I\'m told.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on November 27, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
Quote from: CHC;730116Yep - MAU changed ownership this afternoon. Has been sold to an enthusiast so hopefully will show up on the forum.
lets hope so!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on November 27, 2010, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: Ian65;730117lets hope so!
When I was chatting to Stu he said the new owner would be looking for further info so expect him on the forum - we\'ll see.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 28, 2010, 11:54:04 AM
Moving to Yorkshire eh?
Bah gum lad, \'eell ger a barraload o\' stuff were \'e to log on\'t\'ere......doohh...:Hammer
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 28, 2010, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: RX7heaven;730081The more 1st generation rx7s I see the more I would like one, nice to see a thread where they are being recorded.
And if you want any contact leads to where cars were up for sale recently I do keep those if you want anything....all budgets of 1st Gens.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 28, 2010, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;730076I\'ve probably got to pop there this week, if Tim gives permission I\'ll take a picture of it for you.
Ooh, yes please Tim, or just colour (of green), and registration will do. I think Tim\'s fairly relaxed now he knows were just harmless geeks and not robbers, car bandits or general purpose thieves.
Ahhhemm....For the most part that is.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on November 28, 2010, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: syebba;730088There\'s a lot being scrapped,despite there being not that many left,i think under 280 in total,dave posts up his findings every few months or so.
And on that note I now have a revised location AND COLOUR list.
I\'m not one to take in anyone else\'s ideas if I can help it (unless I can pretend they\'re my own) but the colour fill boxes against the locations was Cliff\'s idea. It\'s so good I took it as my own straight away.
Excel as usual which I have to e mail the file \'cos excel doesn\'t appear to uplink to the forum...why is that? Is it because I use Apple and .xls files? That file format is industry standard ain\'t it?
Anyway please drop me a mail to the usual dgnock at btopenworld dot com (or say yes on here if you think I\'ve got your mail address),and I\'ll send you a beautiful location list with colours on\'t.
Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on November 28, 2010, 01:54:28 PM
Thanks David, email sent.
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on December 01, 2010, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: David Nock;730197Excel as usual which I have to e mail the file \'cos excel doesn\'t appear to uplink to the forum...why is that? Is it because I use Apple and .xls files? That file format is industry standard ain\'t it?
Dave.
You have posted .doc files before? Have you tried .zip?
If it is simply the file extension being a pain, simply rename the .xls extension to .doc and people who download it direct from the page can simply rename it back.
Voila :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 01, 2010, 01:05:25 PM
Right then, I\'ve renamed as .doc
So anyone downloading needs to rename it back to .xls
See if it works. Please let me know.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 01, 2010, 01:09:58 PM
It does seem to work, Thanks Ramon...anyone else able to download?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 01, 2010, 01:15:30 PM
Quote from: David Nock;730718Right then, I\'ve renamed as .doc
So anyone downloading needs to rename it back to .xls
See if it works. Please let me know.
Worked for me Dave. :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on December 01, 2010, 01:16:07 PM
Works fine for me!
Thanks.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 01, 2010, 01:29:56 PM
Great, I\'ve just got to remember the method now for next time...I\'ll put an note on my computer file.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on December 02, 2010, 12:02:52 PM
who\'s the wiring geniuses on the forum my temp gauge is not working i have looked at other 1st gen\'s and i see power runs to the temp sender switch now on my car i have no power simple you may all say run power direct to sensor and make the circuit that way tried that still does not work now iam beginning to think with the rat s nest removed have i broke the circuit or is the temp gauge combined with cold start and other things to do with original carb set up failing this it\'s looking like dash out gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 02, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
Working as well as possible from the ratty diagrams in Haynes,
There does seem to be a voltage regulator device in the dashboard. The fuel guage shares the same regulator.So if fuel guage works the regulator bit should be OK.
From the water temp guage the wiring goes straight to the sensor, nothing else in the circuit, through 2 connectors, X05 (which I think is a big dashboard connector, unlikely to give trouble), and also through connector X01, (which is the one lying on the inner wing in the dipstick area). That connector sometimes gives trouble.
I can\'t find a test for the sensor itself. Substitution ?
Dave.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 02, 2010, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: gnj37;730876who\'s the wiring geniuses on the forum my temp gauge is not working i have looked at other 1st gen\'s and i see power runs to the temp sender switch now on my car i have no power simple you may all say run power direct to sensor and make the circuit that way tried that still does not work now iam beginning to think with the rat s nest removed have i broke the circuit or is the temp gauge combined with cold start and other things to do with original carb set up failing this it\'s looking like dash out gary
Hopefully it won\'t come to removing the dashboard but if it is rquired, here is a link to thread on the very subject:-
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on December 02, 2010, 03:15:39 PM
Funny u should say petrol guage no working as well and my oil pressure gauge sits full of the clock!!!!!!where is this voltage regulator located gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 02, 2010, 05:19:53 PM
On the circuit diagram it\'s shown within the instrument panel Gary.
This is the rear view of a Series 3 instrument panel....one pic just shows the connector blocks extra.
As you know the temp gauge etc is opposite end to the Speedo and the speedo drive can be seen on the left of these pics. So the voltage regulator should be somewhere in the foreground, but I can\'t pick up which component it is.
That thing with 2 holes might be the buzzer, there\'s two other components on there that look possible candidates but they\'re not near the guage end.
I\'ll pull the dash out into the light over the weekend.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 02, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
But the oil pressure gauge, although in the regulator part of the circuit isn\'t fed from it.
I wonder if the V regulator isn\'t just an electronic choke of some sort, to damp the water temp and fuel gauge needles? That\'s all that\'s connected to it.
To do an easy check before pulling the dash Gary, I would take the panel off back of the rear wheel, pull off the fuel guage connector and short it out. Does the fuel needle rise steadily up to full? If so forget the voltage regulator, that just means your tank guage is bust - many of them are, mine included.
Then you\'re back to the connectors underbonnet. Assuming that no ones seriously buggered up the wiring behind the dash at some time, that\'s the last place I\'d go to. The dash and gauges on the dash seem very robust to me.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on December 02, 2010, 06:59:53 PM
i\'ll keep looking just goes to show the last fiddly bits take time to sort but i agree last resort to take dash out but it dos\'nt look to difficult thanks david gary
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: automatic18 on December 03, 2010, 05:59:21 PM
Hi there, I have just bought A171 THM from a car dealers near Sunderland. Will get a proper thread up once the snow melts and I can get some pics. And yes I hope to get it into a garage soon :D
cheers
Paul.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on December 03, 2010, 06:21:41 PM
Well done. If you need any hinderance ask me,if it\'s help you require the others will assist!
What colour is the car? Ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on December 03, 2010, 07:38:30 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 03, 2010, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: automatic18;731161Hi there, I have just bought A171 THM from a car dealers near Sunderland. Will get a proper thread up once the snow melts and I can get some pics. And yes I hope to get it into a garage soon :D
cheers
Paul.
welcome to the 1st gen section Paul. We\'ve been watching this car for a while on here..... it looks and sounds like a nice one!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 03, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
Hiya Paul-nice looking FB that.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on December 03, 2010, 09:00:46 PM
Lovely looking car Paul, I especially like the front bumper and rear spoiler.
Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: automatic18 on December 03, 2010, 10:05:02 PM
:)
Its light blue, there\'s some pictures of it earlier in the thread, it was on pistonheads in October. It has the TWR kit. I\'ve not really had a really close look yet, but aside from a couple of hairline cracks in the kit and a few bubbles round the rear arches, it is in very good condition, and the interior is outstanding. Very pleased with it :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 03, 2010, 10:30:50 PM
Hi Paul - welcome to the forum. Looks a very nice example - enjoy it. I\'ll repeat what has already been said by the gang, if we can help - just ask away but please remember, we want loads of photos. Cliff :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 03, 2010, 10:51:28 PM
A few more photos of JAZ now she is roadworthy
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on December 04, 2010, 07:42:39 AM
Great pics Cliff, you have inspired me to crack on with mine now.
Paul
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 04, 2010, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: ossie747;731225Great pics Cliff, you have inspired me to crack on with mine now.
Paul
How\'s about a few pics of yours Paul?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on December 04, 2010, 10:44:18 AM
Quote from: David Nock;730718Right then, I\'ve renamed as .doc
So anyone downloading needs to rename it back to .xls
See if it works. Please let me know.
Hi Dave.
Having looked at your (very pretty) new list, you still have ALJ 535 Y down as "Elford in Resto. SORN at moment". Well it isn\'t. Sorry, but I thought I had updated you - it is happily back on the road, MOT\'d and driving about. Or it was until the snow came anyway.... John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 04, 2010, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;731237Hi Dave.
Having looked at your (very pretty) new list, you still have ALJ 535 Y down as "Elford in Resto. SORN at moment". Well it isn\'t. Sorry, but I thought I had updated you - it is happily back on the road, MOT\'d and driving about. Or it was until the snow came anyway.... John
John-do you fancy your Elford being on the calender everyones cars are welcome and you\'re not obliged to buy one!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 04, 2010, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;731237Hi Dave.
Having looked at your (very pretty) new list, you still have ALJ 535 Y down as "Elford in Resto. SORN at moment". Well it isn\'t. Sorry, but I thought I had updated you - it is happily back on the road, MOT\'d and driving about. Or it was until the snow came anyway.... John
Sorry John, yes I think you did update me but I omitted to change the abbreviated location list. Done it now. (The uplinked file will not change till the next revision though).
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 04, 2010, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: automatic18;731161Hi there, I have just bought A171 THM from a car dealers near Sunderland. Will get a proper thread up once the snow melts and I can get some pics. And yes I hope to get it into a garage soon :D
cheers
Paul.
A very warm welcome Paul. Thanks for the update...much appreciated.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 04, 2010, 12:47:49 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;731237Hi Dave.
Having looked at your (very pretty) new list, you still have ALJ 535 Y down as "Elford in Resto. SORN at moment". Well it isn\'t. Sorry, but I thought I had updated you - it is happily back on the road, MOT\'d and driving about. Or it was until the snow came anyway.... John
Well done John - isn\'t it a fantastic feeling and exhilarating drive! Pictures please. Cliff :3gears-rh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 04, 2010, 04:45:57 PM
Quote from: gnj37;730999i\'ll keep looking just goes to show the last fiddly bits take time to sort but i agree last resort to take dash out but it dos\'nt look to difficult thanks david gary
Done some more investigating of the water temp gauge.....Going to open a new thread Gary so retune to the new channel mate.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 04, 2010, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;731238John-do you fancy your Elford being on the calender everyones cars are welcome and you\'re not obliged to buy one!
Tim, I thought John had sent his pics for the calendar directly to you... he cc\'d me... I\'ll forward the email in case it bounced.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 04, 2010, 05:47:55 PM
Quote from: Ian65;731262Tim, I thought John had sent his pics for the calendar directly to you... he cc\'d me... I\'ll forward the email in case it bounced.
They must\'ve bounced mate I didn\'t get that, either that or the bloody spam filter I\'ll check.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 04, 2010, 05:50:05 PM
Yeah it was in the spam box-great pictures cheers.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on December 04, 2010, 06:59:54 PM
Quote from: Ian65;731262Tim, I thought John had sent his pics for the calendar directly to you... he cc\'d me... I\'ll forward the email in case it bounced.
Wow, that was close..... Thanks for that Ian - you saved my day!
And thanks to you Tim as well for thinking of the whole idea and doing all the work. Really looking forward to seeing the results.
The pictures I sent were the ones I had to send off to the insurance company a couple of months ago - does everybody else have to do this or are they just being nasty to me? - as the mud and ice around my place at the moment wouldn\'t make a good background....
The lesson for me from this is obvious: I should spend more time logged into this forum rather than doing e-mails from work!
John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 04, 2010, 07:03:25 PM
Thank Ian-I was just gonna buy some US calenders haha.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 04, 2010, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;731276Thank Ian-I was just gonna buy some US calenders haha.
I think we\'re all glad you didn\'t - thanks to you and Ian yet again.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on December 06, 2010, 06:48:59 AM
I see Alan Rees old cer went for £500 with only one bid, I hope it does not get broken.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on December 06, 2010, 10:35:17 PM
Will do Cliff, am waiting for the better weather to come. Also having a three year old and a pregnant wife don\'t give me as much time as I\'d sometimes like to get things going but I\'m sure it won\'t be too long. Watch this space.
Paul :2Confused
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 06, 2010, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: ossie747;731646Will do Cliff, am waiting for the better weather to come. Also having a three year old and a pregnant wife don\'t give me as much time as I\'d sometimes like to get things going but I\'m sure it won\'t be too long. Watch this space.
Paul :2Confused
No worries mate - got your priorities in order. Look forward to seeing some. Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 07, 2010, 08:04:13 PM
Anyone fancy a winter project? These 1st gens have just been listed for sale…
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on December 07, 2010, 08:17:58 PM
Was someone on here after a non sunroof 7 ? or am I loosing it.
If I had the room and time and money, Id have the lot :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on December 07, 2010, 08:20:50 PM
Ian, Where are these listed ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 07, 2010, 08:21:30 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;731774Was someone on here after a non sunroof 7 ? or am I loosing it.
If I had the room and time and money, Id have the lot :D
surely you can make room and find the time!!!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on December 07, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
That red colour is soo nice! I\'m such a sucker for red cars.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 07, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Where the hell are all these hiding?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 07, 2010, 09:06:52 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;731774Was someone on here after a non sunroof 7 ? or am I loosing it.
If I had the room and time and money, Id have the lot :D
Yes Keith - somebody was asking for a non sunroof 7 but this white one has been messed around with already. Wrong bumpers, rear spoiler fitted and what else ?
Ditto too, if only I had the room and time but alas......
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 07, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;731779That red colour is soo nice! I\'m such a sucker for red cars.
Go on Steve - you know you want to really. After all, come February you\'ll have nothing much to do either. :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 07, 2010, 09:28:37 PM
For the sake of my marriage I must not buy that SA.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 07, 2010, 09:35:46 PM
Perhaps buy yourself that extra special christmas present?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on December 07, 2010, 10:01:44 PM
I haven\'t got the room-NEV is breaching both bays of the ghetto and there\'s an RX2 in the other shed so this rest home is currently full! I\'d love it though.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 07, 2010, 10:18:39 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;731776Ian, Where are these listed ?
If I am correct with my memory (which isn\'t that good these days) this car sold for around £110 I think - so a spit and polish makes it a tidy profit. Should have thouht of that myself. :Hammer
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 08, 2010, 12:35:58 PM
I thought it must be Gary at Rotaryart/Rotechniks. Didn\'t he post on the other site that he\'d recently bought 7 or 8 cars in one go?
The Elford S2 doesn\'t have the Elford body kit though. Possibly retrofit?
Anyway, 3 new cars for the Register in one go......(as Ian, already got the containered S1)
Edit Note:....For Cliff, No it was 14 bids and £320 for the white S1. Still a good profit but Gary might get pushed into some deal requiring warranty?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 08, 2010, 12:47:56 PM
Quote from: David Nock;731873I thought it must be Gary at Rotaryart/Rotechniks. Didn\'t he post on the other site that he\'d recently bought 7 or 8 cars in one go?
The Elford S2 doesn\'t have the Elford body kit though. Possibly retrofit?
Anyway, 3 new cars for the Register in one go......(as Ian, already got the containered S1)
Edit Note:....For Cliff, No it was 14 bids and £320 for the white S1. Still a good profit but Gary might get pushed into some deal requiring warranty?
Told you my memory wasn\'t up to much these days - need a holiday I\'d say.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 08, 2010, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: David Nock;731873The Elford S2 doesn\'t have the Elford body kit though. Possibly retrofit??
Not all Elfords had the bodykit. It was a menu system and buyers could spec whether they wanted just the engine mods or just the bodykit or both.
Quote from: David Nock;731873Edit Note:....For Cliff, No it was 14 bids and £320 for the white S1. Still a good profit but Gary might get pushed into some deal requiring warranty?
£750 is just the asking price and there\'s no profit until it\'s sold. If it\'s sold as a restoration project, I don\'t see how he would need to warranty it. I think they are being optimistic with the price for the Elford. 10 years off the road and a smoking engine... I\'d want 12 mths ticket and a sound engine for that kind of money.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 08, 2010, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: Ian65;731878Not all Elfords had the bodykit. It was a menu system and buyers could spec whether they wanted just the engine mods or just the bodykit or both.
£750 is just the asking price and there\'s no profit until it\'s sold. If it\'s sold as a restoration project, I don\'t see how he would need to warranty it. I think they are being optimistic with the price for the Elford. 10 years off the road and a smoking engine... I\'d want 12 mths ticket and a sound engine for that kind of money.
..... and the bodykit!
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 01:50:28 PM
Looks like the s1 needs a new rear valence. Shame it\'s got wrong bumpers on & that rear spoiler,were those fitted to s1\'s?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 08, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
Quote from: syebba;731887Looks like the s1 needs a new rear valence. Shame it\'s got wrong bumpers on & that rear spoiler,were those fitted to s1\'s?
I had an SA in mid to late 80\'s and the spoiler wasn\'t a standard fit and the bumpers weren\'t the wrap round type either.
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Post by: Ian65 on December 08, 2010, 03:19:17 PM
that\'s all s2 / s3 stuff retro fitted. Wouldn\'t take much to put the proper S1 bumpers back on though and ditch the spoiler
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Post by: A7RXY on December 08, 2010, 03:53:02 PM
Getting them may be a different thing thou.
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Post by: Ian65 on December 08, 2010, 04:42:44 PM
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Post by: Steve-A on December 08, 2010, 04:46:49 PM
It does seem like there\'s plenty for sale and really reasonable prices! I find it very surprising that people aren\'t snapping all these up right away.
I posted a picture of Rexanne in my thread on the mx5 forum and load of people were on about how nice it was and talking about wanting one, they fit the current trend of japanese classics becoming more fashionable and are fun and mega cheap.
Sooner or later the penny is gonna have to drop for the jap car enthusiast masses....
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 04:51:42 PM
Give it another 5>10 years & hopefully more peeps will think their classics. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;731898Getting them may be a different thing thou.
I\'d agree with that,trying to source complete s1 bumpers with indicators,end caps,would be like finding a needle in a haystack.
The side rubbing strips are very difficult to find now also,mazdatrix used to have various stock of genuine s1 parts,but a lot is now NLA.
Saw a few s1\'s up for sale a few years ago & all had been messed with,mostly interiors changed to s3 grey colour & s2/s3 bumpers,aftermarket alloys etc.
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Post by: myatt1972 on December 08, 2010, 08:20:54 PM
I scrapped a complete s1 (bar engine and box) about 2 years ago. If I meet any of you guys in the near future, feel free to kick me :Hammer
Keith...
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 08:28:10 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;731939I scrapped a complete s1 (bar engine and box) about 2 years ago. If I meet any of you guys in the near future, feel free to kick me :Hammer
Keith...
Don\'t suppose you\'ve got a pic of the endangered,almost extinct S1 you killed have you?:Laugh
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 08:34:35 PM
It\'d be G8 if someone here bought that S1,but we\'ve all got our projects/runners.
Should have a burgundy interior with highback seats in[integral headrests],the s1 seats had vinyl outer edges with fabric in the centres,they look better than s2/s3 seats.
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 08:43:20 PM
& i\'m pretty sure behind the red car is another s1,with the gold wheels,i think it\'s a black v reg TWR version,i\'ve seen it uncovered before.
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Post by: myatt1972 on December 08, 2010, 08:50:14 PM
Quote from: syebba;731941Don\'t suppose you\'ve got a pic of the endangered,almost extinct S1 you killed have you?:Laugh
Here she is, KDH 585V, complete with kit and two tone paint job! (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/DSCF1495.jpg?t=1291841225) Keith...
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Post by: myatt1972 on December 08, 2010, 08:51:48 PM
& i\'m pretty sure behind the red car is another s1,with the gold wheels,i think it\'s a black v reg TWR version,i\'ve seen it uncovered before.
Yep and for sale 3.5k
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 08:53:37 PM
That looks G8 Keith,funny wheels though?
Was the body salvageable or just too rusty?
What bodykit is that? ta stu..
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Post by: Ian65 on December 08, 2010, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: syebba;731943Should have a burgundy interior with highback seats in[integral headrests],the s1 seats had vinyl outer edges with fabric in the centres,they look better than s2/s3 seats.
Havnt got a clue what kit that is but it covered a multitude of sins.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on December 08, 2010, 08:59:45 PM
I didn\'t realise that SA went for so little-wish I\'d kept an eye on it now it\'d be in my shed with the blokes arm still attached to it.
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
Ian your old SA looks gorgeous!
Yep high rise seats,4 spoke steering wheel,manual windows etc.
Funny my white SA had a sunroof like yours,i thought,it looked like an aftermarket one,but maybe not.
Nerdy info here,did you know the interior light above the rear view mirror is different to s2/s3,s,now what would be the point in mazda changing that? ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on December 08, 2010, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;731954Havnt got a clue what kit that is but it covered a multitude of sins.
It may be a Richard Grant bodykit,i was going to fit one of their kits to my first fb 20 years ago,could,nt of been that many manufacturers for bodykits for fb\'s in those days.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 08, 2010, 10:17:26 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;731947Here she is, KDH 585V, complete with kit and two tone paint job! (http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab97/myatt1972/odd%20stuff/DSCF1495.jpg?t=1291841225) Keith...
Nice motor Keith. Was it the SA that inspired you for your current car?
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Post by: myatt1972 on December 08, 2010, 10:41:27 PM
My first 7 was an s3 that I paid £100 for in 1997. Got it off my ex wifes brother who was a complete tw*t (twit), no mot no tax and parked on the road so he was desperate to get rid and I took advantage of the situation. Was a great car but a few years off the road soon killed it. It went to a good home though, Ians doner car.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 08, 2010, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;731987My first 7 was an s3 that I paid £100 for in 1997. Got it off my ex wifes brother who was a complete tw*t (twit), no mot no tax and parked on the road so he was desperate to get rid and I took advantage of the situation. Was a great car but a few years off the road soon killed it. It went to a good home though, Ians doner car.
Doesn\'t it make you feel good when you\'ve got one over on some people. Anybody treating a car the way you have explained deserves to be taken advantage of but on saying that, what bargain for a few years motoring too - well done.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on December 09, 2010, 06:17:58 PM
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 09, 2010, 09:50:42 PM
Nice colour Dibs - did you change it or was that original?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on December 10, 2010, 06:05:48 AM
Original Cliff, I got that one new in \'81, the colour was something maroon, but it always looked brown to me. Sold it for the deposit for the house I\'m in today in \'83.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on December 10, 2010, 09:44:29 AM
I like that colour. Did those wheels come with the car,they look like elford alloys? ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on December 10, 2010, 09:51:58 AM
Quote from: syebba;732139I like that colour. Did those wheels come with the car,they look like elford alloys? ta stu..
Yes, and they are Elfords, the dealer, Richard Knight cars, had put them on it to sell, as when I bought it the series 2 had come out, and he had this one remaining series 1 in stock, if I remember right I paid £7750 for it.
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Post by: Ian65 on December 12, 2010, 06:48:37 PM
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Post by: myatt1972 on December 12, 2010, 07:03:51 PM
Thats a tidy looking s2, looks like a porsche badge on the front ??? Where is it ?
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Post by: syebba on December 12, 2010, 07:23:20 PM
Spill the beans Ian..
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 12, 2010, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;732140Yes, and they are Elfords, the dealer, Richard Knight cars, had put them on it to sell, as when I bought it the series 2 had come out, and he had this one remaining series 1 in stock, if I remember right I paid £7750 for it.
Excellent deal there alround Dibs! Got a new car, brilliant price with alloys thrown in too. Good deposit for house and your current return must be ...... well a lot anyhow. Suppose in a way it\'s a shame that the classic cars haven\'t increased in value the same as properties have - we\'d all be a lot wealthier I suppose.
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Post by: Ian65 on December 12, 2010, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: syebba;732382Spill the beans Ian..
Scotland... it\'s got an old RX7 owners club sticker in the windscreen as well.... which maybe is why it looks so well cared for
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on December 12, 2010, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: CHC;732386Suppose in a way it\'s a shame that the classic cars haven\'t increased in value the same as properties have - we\'d all be a lot wealthier I suppose.
I\'d be a bloody millionaire after the money I\'ve \'invested\' in classic cars over the years!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 12, 2010, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: Ian65;732388I\'d be a bloody millionaire after the money I\'ve \'invested\' in classic cars over the years!
Wish I was five hundred thousand behind you then mate.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 12, 2010, 07:53:22 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 13, 2010, 05:27:41 PM
Well spotted mate. It might well be a summer only car then.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on December 16, 2010, 07:45:11 AM
Someone\'s picked up a cheap 12 month ticket\'d car - £410. From a distance seems okay but that front windscreen crack? Could be problems with hidden corrosion.
been for sale for most of the last 12 mths.... had a change of ownership around June 2010 and then was up for sale again a couple of months later.
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Post by: gnj37 on December 24, 2010, 12:50:49 PM
Before i forget merry Christmas every 1 hope Santa comes to u all and thanks for all the tips this year gary
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 24, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
You\'re welcome Gary and thanks for the Christmas wishes.....Same to you mate.
Dave
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Post by: JBerg on January 02, 2011, 07:08:43 PM
Happy New Year all!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets start the year with a turbo fb
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C201229/
\'cos I\'m a spanner, I only just noticed it\'s in Spain...ah well, a bit rich anyway
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 02, 2011, 07:49:54 PM
It\'s a good job that is in Spain, I like that alot.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 03, 2011, 11:13:22 AM
That looks nice!
Fairly easy to get hold of as well. Price £3200. Not too strong for an Elford? - if it\'s as good as it says it is. LHD though. Fine if you go continenting from time to time.
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Post by: Steve-A on January 03, 2011, 11:15:10 AM
I normally love 2 tone pant jobs, I was even considering painting rexanne two tone but that doesn\'t quite work for me! Looks clean though.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 03, 2011, 12:16:57 PM
nice car... shame it\'s a left hooker. ( for us that is, our friends on the continent would love it)
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Post by: Ian65 on January 03, 2011, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;734916I normally love 2 tone pant jobs, I was even considering painting rexanne two tone but that doesn\'t quite work for me! Looks clean though.
2 tone paint jobs don\'t do it for me, the only one I\'ve ever seen that looks right is the gradiented paint job on Johns blue Elford and that looks gorgeous but cars with a distinct 2 tone split above and below the rubbing strip... nah.
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Post by: syebba on January 04, 2011, 08:33:05 PM
Seems like a good car for the price,but i\'m not a fan of 2 tone paint jobs either!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on January 08, 2011, 09:25:32 PM
Series 3.......................38........................ 97.........................15
Series 2........................24....................... .43..........................8
Series 1.........................5....................... ..14..........................6
The biggest change is in the S3\'s where about 9 cars have gone to SORN from runners.....verious things I guess like simple bad weather to winter projects starting up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on January 09, 2011, 05:07:34 PM
Yeah, it was quiet on here this time last year but I think this years freezing weather has put most things on stop. The ice and snow came the week after I dropped the engine back in my car and I\'ve hardly been outside or in the garage since. I\'ve put it on sorn and I\'ll have another play with it when the weather finally picks up.
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Post by: A7RXY on January 09, 2011, 05:09:59 PM
Yes I put mine on a SORN because the tax and MOT ran out while it was in having a new clutch fitted, which took longer than expected then xmas came, hope to get it MOT\'d again soon, but then again might wait untill the sun comes out.
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Post by: syebba on January 09, 2011, 08:18:00 PM
Yes it\'s been dead on here,very few new cars for sale & no new members. Does this every year,new projects will resurface in the summer. ta..
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 09, 2011, 08:20:46 PM
Wheres Cliff?!
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Post by: syebba on January 09, 2011, 08:25:54 PM
That\'s a good point,Clifford?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? U still alive! ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on January 09, 2011, 08:25:57 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;735995Wheres Cliff?!
probably sunning himself somewhere hot....
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Post by: Ian65 on January 09, 2011, 08:30:37 PM
5 of us online at the moment.... things are looking up!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 17, 2011, 02:54:49 PM
Hello Boys - I\'M BACKKKKKK! Should be 6 of us now.
Sad to say that I\'ve been down with Christmasytis and bad weather bugs but back to 95% power and onward towards happier warmer days (and that\'s just in the garage).
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY!
Cliff
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Post by: Ian65 on January 17, 2011, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: CHC;737355Hello Boys - I\'M BACKKKKKK! Should be 6 of us now.
Sad to say that I\'ve been down with Christmasytis and bad weather bugs but back to 95% power and onward towards happier warmer days (and that\'s just in the garage).
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY!
Cliff
Welcome back Cliff, we\'ve missed your sparkling repartee!
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Post by: Steve-A on January 17, 2011, 05:36:30 PM
You\'re alive Cliff!
Glad to hear you\'re back on top form! :)
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 17, 2011, 05:50:56 PM
Thanks guys - it\'s good to be back. Never thought I\'d actually be missed, the Magnificent Six can again ride out into the sunset with captions on our waistcoats - EAT OUR DUST - he..he
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 17, 2011, 05:56:31 PM
Been sooooo quiet Cliff. Welcome back mate.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 17, 2011, 06:06:51 PM
Cheers Dave - Happy New Year. Missed the banter and interesting bits so time to knuckle down again :wave
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Post by: syebba on January 17, 2011, 08:13:20 PM
Quote from: CHC;737375Thanks guys - it\'s good to be back. Never thought I\'d actually be missed, the Magnificent Six can again ride out into the sunset with captions on our waistcoats - EAT OUR DUST - he..he
Welcome back Cliff,i thought you\'d died!!:King ta stu..
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 17, 2011, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: syebba;737423Welcome back Cliff,i thought you\'d died!!:King ta stu..
Happy New year Stu - nah :rollin, you can\'t keep a good man down mate. Been doin\' some work on Goldie, general socialising :Party (hic), winter bugs (wahooooo) and carework for the oldies and just not enough hrs in day. Getting there now and preparing for work, work, work on the old girl (Goldie that is), a busy spring ahead I think.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 19, 2011, 09:03:39 PM
Anyone fancy a cheap restoration project?
C510 BUU series 3 in blue for £400.... West Midlands...
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 21, 2011, 09:15:03 PM
Only for not having any space :flamed I\'d go for the West Midlands \'Blue\' rex. Advertised as an S2? It has S3 wheels and reg \'C\' plated, surely this is an S3? Looks quite tidy otherwise, lets hope it gets scooped up for restoration.
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Post by: myatt1972 on January 21, 2011, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: CHC;738173Only for not having any space :flamed I\'d go for the West Midlands \'Blue\' rex. Advertised as an S2? It has S3 wheels and reg \'C\' plated, surely this is an S3? Looks quite tidy otherwise, lets hope it gets scooped up for restoration.
And in the most beautiful colour :D
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 21, 2011, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;738179And in the most beautiful colour :D
Happy New Year Keith - for sure it is a very nice shade of blue.:)
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Post by: Ian65 on January 21, 2011, 09:58:34 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;738179And in the most beautiful colour :D
doesn\'t look like black to me!!!!!!!
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Post by: A7RXY on January 21, 2011, 10:00:17 PM
Or RED .................
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 21, 2011, 10:32:17 PM
nor WHITE or GOLD & let\'s not forget SILVER!! We all have our own favourites guys and this is what makes us so individual but in fairness I don\'t think I\'ve actually seen an RX7 in a colour I don\'t like ....... including Pale Green.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on January 21, 2011, 11:02:52 PM
1982 series 2 for sale in south east..... NUL 911Y £800
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Post by: Silverstone Autosport on January 21, 2011, 11:04:56 PM
WE have some news the group B is going on a road trip , Legend Boucles de Spa in belgium . Friday 18 February 2011 to Saturday 19 February 2011.....
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Post by: RotorHeid on January 22, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Silverstone Autosport;738207WE have some news the group B is going on a road trip , Legend Boucles de Spa in belgium . Friday 18 February 2011 to Saturday 19 February 2011.....
be better than last year due to crash out, wishing I\'m going there and lots of cool old skool rally cars and the one with a Tartan rx7\'s a cool looker. Good luck SA dude and 13B PP\'s rules once again.
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Post by: Silverstone Autosport on January 22, 2011, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: RotorHeid;738236be better than last year due to crash out, wishing I\'m going there and lots of cool old skool rally cars and the one with a Tartan rx7\'s a cool looker. Good luck SA dude and 13B PP\'s rules once again.
Yeah she wont be crashed this year (we hope) its had a lot of time spent on it getting it ready for the event so hopefully the set up will be good :):) And we can get a good finnish for rota supporters :god
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2011, 12:05:46 PM
Quote from: Silverstone Autosport;738252Yeah she wont be crashed this year (we hope) its had a lot of time spent on it getting it ready for the event so hopefully the set up will be good :):) And we can get a good finnish for rota supporters :god
Good Luck. Any pics \'afore ye go?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2011, 12:09:32 PM
Quote from: CHC;738173Only for not having any space :flamed I\'d go for the West Midlands \'Blue\' rex. Advertised as an S2? It has S3 wheels and reg \'C\' plated, surely this is an S3?
A lot do this Cliff. I think it\'s because most V5s say RX7 2
My guess is that the 2 is a code, perhaps coupe?, perhaps number of doors? Perhaps Sports? But it\'s not the Series - which throws people.
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Post by: Silverstone Autosport on January 22, 2011, 12:11:25 PM
Quote from: David Nock;738266Good Luck. Any pics \'afore ye go?
Thanks...
Will take some on monday ..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on January 22, 2011, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: Silverstone Autosport;738270Will take some on monday ..
Try get some high resolution pics up-I could do with a new wallpaper!:cool:InLove
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2011, 12:16:08 PM
Quote from: Ian65;7382051982 series 2 for sale in south east..... NUL 911Y £800
http://www.gumtree.com/london/09/72249609.html
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New S2 Ian, Thanks......Dartford Area from ad.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 22, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
When did you crack 2000 posts Dave-I didn\'t get an invite to the party!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Silverstone Autosport on January 22, 2011, 12:17:23 PM
Got a couple from goodwood
Will get some better quality ones soon :Thumbs-up:Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2011, 12:18:17 PM
Quote from: CHC;738197nor WHITE or GOLD & let\'s not forget SILVER!! We all have our own favourites guys and this is what makes us so individual but in fairness I don\'t think I\'ve actually seen an RX7 in a colour I don\'t like ....... including Pale Green.
Or Silver with a Red Coach Line........Yummm....... Beoootiful.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on January 22, 2011, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: Ian65;737829Anyone fancy a cheap restoration project?
C510 BUU series 3 in blue for £400.... West Midlands...
His pics are honest showing sill rot, mazda still sell both outer sills,so we need another new member who can weld!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2011, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;738274When did you crack 2000 posts Dave-I didn\'t get an invite to the party!
Didn\'t see it till you said just now Tim.....Shows I\'m a serious worker here not a frivolous post party player......:Typing.......:3gears-lh......XX:Party
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on January 22, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: Silverstone Autosport;738275Got a couple from goodwood
Will get some better quality ones soon :Thumbs-up:Thumbs-up
Really good of Steve to lend you his gazebo :chat
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 22, 2011, 11:11:37 PM
Haha that gazebo is reaching legendary status.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 25, 2011, 10:13:12 PM
rough looking S2 parts car for sale in Doncaster...
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Post by: myatt1972 on January 25, 2011, 10:35:45 PM
Strange looking spoiler, is that off another car? S3 interior and looks like a decent exhaust. Some good parts there, I wonder if it runs?
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Post by: syebba on January 26, 2011, 04:25:34 AM
The spoiler is the correct fit & width,so most probably is for a fb,looks like there\'s an aerial hole on r/h side too.Lots of different spoilers for fb\'s in the US. Looks like a resto\'s been started then given up. ta stu.[shame s2 interior,been replaced with s3]
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Post by: syebba on January 26, 2011, 10:22:14 AM
Looks like an SA rear hatch too - no holes for rear wiper.
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Post by: syebba on January 26, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: CHC;739012Looks like an SA rear hatch too - no holes for rear wiper.
Blimey you are observant!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 26, 2011, 05:28:22 PM
The white S2 will likely be not very far from me.
I\'ve logged it straight to scrappers file. We\'ll see what happens, maybe a runner? Engine shot says nope, but then if the body is reasonable.......mileage I think looks like 97,860 or thereabouts??
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Post by: Ian65 on January 26, 2011, 05:59:53 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 26, 2011, 06:05:37 PM
Where ya finding \'em all Ian....Good Stuff though.
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Post by: A7RXY on January 26, 2011, 06:08:19 PM
Its such a waste when you see them like that, brings a tear to the eye.
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Post by: syebba on January 26, 2011, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: David Nock;739079Where ya finding \'em all Ian....Good Stuff though.
Ian\'s like something out of the matrix,he lives IN cyberspace!:evillaugh
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Post by: syebba on January 26, 2011, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;739080Its such a waste when you see them like that, brings a tear to the eye.
Yes,i use optrex when i see em like that!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 26, 2011, 09:04:43 PM
It beats me why anybody would leave such a thoroughbred to rot away like that :Hammer - they should be castrated or something more painful. :Grrr
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Post by: syebba on January 26, 2011, 09:20:15 PM
Quote from: CHC;739136It beats me why anybody would leave such a thoroughbred to rot away like that :Hammer - they should be castrated or something more painful. :Grrr
A good parts car for someone who already has an Elford.
Castrated or something more painful!I can\'t think of anything more painful!
Rotten doors & front wings are\'nt a problem[easy replaced],rear arches & floorpan main concern.
It is a shame,how many Elfords left 10?Daaaaaaaaaavid! ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on January 26, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
Rust really seems to be getting to Fb\'s now,most of the cars are advertised as scrappers/parts cars. At a guess,i\'d say in 7>10 years all remaining Fb numbers will be halved.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 26, 2011, 09:46:53 PM
I would tend to agree with you on this Stu. I am probably wrong in my assumption that the majority of owners must know how scarce these cars are becoming and I don\'t understand why owners won\'t treat the rust before it gets too serious? Ignorance or simply stupidity perhaps in some cases?
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Post by: Ian65 on January 26, 2011, 10:21:29 PM
Quote from: CHC;739142I would tend to agree with you on this Stu. I am probably wrong in my assumption that the majority of owners must know how scarce these cars are becoming and I don\'t understand why owners won\'t treat the rust before it gets too serious? Ignorance or simply stupidity perhaps in some cases?
most of the parts cars and scrappers turning up for sale nowadays have been off the road for many years and the youngest are 26 years old now. The rust was probably taking hold when they were 10 - 15 years old and needed to be dealt with then but I suppose in the early 90\'s, 1st gens were just old bangers and nobody bothered. It\'s the old story.... cars are desirable, then a few years on fall into the old banger catagory and then into classic status but by then, loads have fallen by the wayside. The few that are now left in roadworthy condition are most likely quite well looked after.
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Post by: shaunwil on January 26, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
It\'s getting even harder with the cost of fuel. Plus they don\'t have a large following compared to say ford escorts.
I know I\'ll have some more practice with the mig welder once the weather gets better.
Shaun
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Post by: Ian65 on January 26, 2011, 10:48:06 PM
Quote from: CHC;739136It beats me why anybody would leave such a thoroughbred to rot away like that :Hammer - they should be castrated or something more painful. :Grrr
OMG !!! WT* !!! Hold my head in shame, there\'s nothing I can do this year (I haven\'t got the space) but I would love to get my hands on this one. It\'s one of the colours you either hate or adore - I\'m the latter. I just don\'t understand peoples logic, I\'m speechless.
As for the owner - should be put into \'Stocks\' and anything but everything thrown at him and left to rot. :Grrr
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Post by: syebba on January 27, 2011, 06:35:12 AM
Quote from: CHC;739142I would tend to agree with you on this Stu. I am probably wrong in my assumption that the majority of owners must know how scarce these cars are becoming and I don\'t understand why owners won\'t treat the rust before it gets too serious? Ignorance or simply stupidity perhaps in some cases?
Some of these cars could be saved,especially as mazda still sell sills,rear valences etc. I suppose it comes down to economics,parts,labour,respray,etc outweighs the cars resale price? As Ian says the rust probably started when the cars were 15 years old,another 10+ years of neglect & the cars are scrappers. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on January 27, 2011, 06:39:48 AM
Cliff, Owners on forums such as this obviously know fb\'s are becoming scarce,but joe public if they have an fb,maybe just sees them as rusty,fuel thirsty sheds?
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Post by: Ian65 on January 27, 2011, 07:48:46 AM
Quote from: syebba;739193Some of these cars could be saved,especially as mazda still sell sills,rear valences etc. I suppose it comes down to economics,parts,labour,respray,etc outweighs the cars resale price?
ta stu..
That\'s right Stu... anything can be done if enough money is thrown at it but with 1st gen prices very low in comparison to many other classic cars, it just isn\'t economically viable to carry out anything other than a very light restoration. The only people restoring these cars are enthusiasts like ourselves who do it for the love of the cars and are prepared to take a bit of a financial hit.
The situation will continue for a few more years yet until there are hardly any cars left..... also there just isn\'t the demand for 1st gens in the UK
Very rare /or desirable cars such as E-types never get broken, even totally rusted out basket cases fetch thousands and get restored and demand is high for them. Sadly I don\'t think 1st gen RX7\'s will ever reach that level.... they were always a niche car back in the day and still are today.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 27, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
Quote from: CHC;739176It\'s one of the colours you either hate or adore - I\'m the latter.
You adore green?????!!!!!!!!!! Oh dear!
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Post by: syebba on January 27, 2011, 07:59:13 AM
Will 1st gens attain classic status & command higher prices in future?
There won\'t be many left,look at S1\'s now,less than 10 left,but still low prices.
Fuel will be extortianate in a few years,but most fb\'s are used as 2nd car toys,so i don\'t think that\'ll affect prices.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 27, 2011, 08:15:06 AM
the main factor that drives classic car prices is nostalgia.... people buying older cars that they owned or coveted in their younger days and reliving their youth... also passing on this enthusiasm to younger drivers and getting them interested in classic cars too. This is shown by the demand and high prices for old Fords.... Escorts, Capris, Cortinas... hardly the most technological advanced cars ever produced but the prices they fetch are eye-watering.... they\'re the cars people had and fondly remember.
RX7\'s were never mass market cars over here.... plenty of people have no idea what they are so prices will be low for a good few years yet. Whether they rise in future is anybodys guess. Magazine / insurance valuations are just figures plucked out of the air... it\'s all about what someone will pay for a particular car on a certain day. we all watch 1st gens for sale on here and can see the low prices the cars are selling for. I don\'t think they will ever make really big money.
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Post by: syebba on January 27, 2011, 10:34:34 AM
Yes i agree,i bought mine for nostalgia reasons,loved them 20 years ago & wanted another. I think part of the reason we enjoy driving & owning a Fb is because people don\'t know what it is,unlike an esort or capri,but that could also be it\'s downfall with reference to future prices,there\'s a small enthusiast base now,in future it\'ll probably get smaller,so fewer people interested in Fb\'s.
Mind you Datsun 240z prices have increased significantly,not many peeps know what they are either,but this could be due to their scarcity & their older than fb\'s.
So my final conclusion on future Fb prices,i don\'t know! ta stu..
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 27, 2011, 11:26:29 AM
I much prefer the lighter colours and they do say that \'northeners\' have a strange sense of humour but I don\'t care at all.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 27, 2011, 11:33:21 AM
Totally concur guys, so with declining numbers in mind, all we can do is try to sustain a minimum level of roadworthy units for nostalgia purposes and should prices rise in the distant future - well actually, what if they do rise, would you want to sell something like the fb which you have treasured and coverted for many a year? I for one wouldn\'t.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 27, 2011, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: CHC;739233Totally concur guys, so with declining numbers in mind, all we can do is try to sustain a minimum level of roadworthy units for nostalgia purposes and should prices rise in the distant future - well actually, what if they do rise, would you want to sell something like the fb which you have treasured and coverted for many a year? I for one wouldn\'t.
Neither would I!........ I\'m like most of us on here... not in it for the money. I\'m into them because I love the look of them, like working on them and like driving them, so values and other peoples views don\'t bother me at all. Whilst values are low, we can all get cheap parts and as the cars don\'t owe us much, we can afford to have them stood around and not use them so often. Also, imagine if they suddenly became worth 30 grand.... we\'d be less inclined to drive them so much or leave them anywhere plus younger enthusiasts wouldn\'t be able to afford one. Nah.... I\'m happy with the way things are!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 27, 2011, 12:42:50 PM
Went out in Gus one day this week. Driving through a local suberb. A guy in a highly polished black RX8 nearly crashed as I came into his view. He was shouting and waving... :god \'Respect Man\' (or perhaps something else). He should have shouted \'Respect Grandad\', to both car and driver.
Missus N was with me, we had a little chuckle and a thrill....oooer.....:)
Gus has been going just great lately.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 27, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: syebba;739138It is a shame,how many Elfords left 10?Daaaaaaaaaavid! ta stu..
As far as I can tell, about 8 S3, 9 S2, 2 S1. Plus this Y reg S2 in Truro but fear she\'ll be in bits soon.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 27, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
That bloke is dreaming if he thinks he will recoup more money from a broken FB especially as it\'s pretty tidy. That\'ll be another case of £39.99 for a door handle etc etc.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 27, 2011, 09:48:08 PM
Well guys, I rang John this morning and had a great chat with him and he gave me the full tail of woe - remembering he is broad Scots. He bought it for his wife and when he got home she said politely (I think) "what/who have you bought that for", "for you" he said. "Don\'t want it, it only has 2 seats"! They now have an RX8 and hence he wants his money back or there abouts. Problems with it:- 1) Drivers window doesn\'t operate - John tried to clean the electric window switch but it fell to pieces in doing so. Therefore one switch and perhaps guides need cleaning and spraying or possibly an actuator. 2) Rear bumper n/s - paint has split and peeled (only minor) as per photo. 3) A little surface rust around wheel arches.
John was saying that he took it for a run and opened her up on the motorway - done 175000m but still does 130 mph with no problem. It has a long MOT but not taxed. I forgot to ask him but I think it has a glass roof too (in photos).
As much as I want too I just can\'t take it on :Hammer I even asked him to keep it until next year & guaranteed I would have it - but he wants gone. So with this in mind - he is looking for £650 - any takers?
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Post by: Marcrs on January 27, 2011, 10:01:47 PM
Dare I ship another fb down from scotland... hmmm
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Post by: captainbizzaro on January 27, 2011, 10:12:25 PM
Yes you dare!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 27, 2011, 10:28:47 PM
Quote from: David Nock;739241Went out in Gus one day this week. Driving through a local suberb. A guy in a highly polished black RX8 nearly crashed as I came into his view. He was shouting and waving... :god \'Respect Man\' (or perhaps something else). He should have shouted \'Respect Grandad\', to both car and driver.
Missus N was with me, we had a little chuckle and a thrill....oooer.....:)
Gus has been going just great lately.
What a good start for the new year - start the year with a smile.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 27, 2011, 10:29:56 PM
Quote from: Marcrs;739321Dare I ship another fb down from scotland... hmmm
Plse - stop me from fretting
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Post by: syebba on January 28, 2011, 03:12:40 AM
Has anyone got photo\'s of this car,tried the link at top of page,but it won\'t let me in. ta stu..
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Post by: Marcrs on January 28, 2011, 07:47:07 AM
If I get my mortgage sorted in time...karissa and I might end up with a brace of fbs :D
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 28, 2011, 08:22:24 AM
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Can anyone save this 1st Gen? I have been sent the following email with regards to the person looking to break this 1st Gen althougn it is in working order.
If you contact ther person, please ensure that you state that you are calling from Mazdarotaryclub which is where you found the information.
I am contacting you on behalf of a friend. He has a Mazda RX7 1986 2.3 He is sadly going to break his car. It has a host of very useable spares (body and mechanical). It is actually running at the moment with quite a long MOT. It has a very high mileage 174000. It has an excellent set of alloys and wheels, going by the look of them they must have been refurbished at some point. Because I am into classic cars he asked me to ask around, hence my contacting you. Would anyone in your club be interested in spares from his car(I can send pictures if needed)? I buy and sell on e-bay so we are thinking of exploring this route as well.
The chap\'s name is John and his contact number is 07846820314
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Post by: Steve-A on January 28, 2011, 08:56:07 AM
Clarky has said he will phone up today to buy it. Good job really or I was gonna end up buckling and buying it myself! I was doing a good job of talking myself into it last night!
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Post by: syebba on January 28, 2011, 09:07:11 AM
Cheers steve. It looks too good to break. Wheels deffo been refurbed too. Looks like it has a grey interior? I did\'nt know that was an option with opal green. ta stu..
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Post by: Steve-A on January 28, 2011, 09:10:22 AM
Yeah, there\'s loads more pictures in the members section. It has got the grey interior and yeh looks pretty damn clean really.
At the end of the day the state of thing like the rear suspension link mount are impossible to tell from pictures like that, but its got a long MOT so can\'t be that bad.
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Post by: syebba on January 28, 2011, 09:15:33 AM
Tis true,long mot rust can\'t be that bad. I\'m guessing interiors been changed,thought opal green came with brown interiors?
Whose Clarky,has he got a fb already or is this his first? ta stu..
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Post by: Steve-A on January 28, 2011, 09:18:29 AM
He\'s a full club member with a modified FD as his avatar and he said he would phone up this morning to buy it, that\'s as much as I know!
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Post by: syebba on January 28, 2011, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: Steve-A;739398He\'s a full club member with a modified FD as his avatar and he said he would phone up this morning to buy it, that\'s as much as I know!
Hope he buys it,it\'ll be good to see another 1st gen here & saved from being broken up! ta stu..
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Post by: A7RXY on January 28, 2011, 09:29:00 AM
The last few 86 cars all had grey interiors, as I think thats what was left by then, therefore it means it may have been one of the last cars
Dibs
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Post by: Clarky on January 28, 2011, 09:34:09 AM
Hi to the 1st Gen section, yes i have a modified FD, and i did own a 1st Gen some years ago, so looking forward to buying this one, will be kept standard and restored, i will be phoning him today. Just going to have a look around for car transporting from fife, anyone that has contact with transporters would be helpful. Cheers. John
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Post by: Marcrs on January 28, 2011, 09:41:38 AM
I got my FB from edinburgh to east sussex last year for £200 - I used shiply.com :)
Hope you get it mate - then we really need to tie up at some point ;)
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Post by: Marcrs on January 28, 2011, 09:43:51 AM
Quote from: Steve-A;739396At the end of the day the state of thing like the rear suspension link mount are impossible to tell from pictures like that.
Might be a dumb question...but mine seems a bit wallowy, not twitchy, but feels a little vague on the rear end...is this a possible culprit?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 28, 2011, 12:17:53 PM
You can soon see Marc....look into the back wheel arches and see if the rear axle top link arm still has a solid reinforced mounting plate each side. Has either plate cracked or rusted through? I\'ve had a look at the pics where you and Gareth did the sill repair but can\'t see the links very well.
The body/axle thrust including side thrust must be transmitted through these links and through the bottom links so yes, must be a possible culprit. Shaun said his was wallowy until he repaired it.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 28, 2011, 12:22:05 PM
Quote from: Clarky;739403Hi to the 1st Gen section, yes i have a modified FD, and i did own a 1st Gen some years ago, so looking forward to buying this one, will be kept standard and restored, i will be phoning him today. Just going to have a look around for car transporting from fife, anyone that has contact with transporters would be helpful. Cheers. John
Hi John. If you don\'t mind would you let us know if you do buy it. (I can then move its location on my register from Scotland to Sussex).
Also can you remember the 1st Gen reg you did own? It might be on my register (or still out there and not yet seen).
Cheers Dave.
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Post by: Clarky on January 28, 2011, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: David Nock;739430Hi John. If you don\'t mind would you let us know if you do buy it. (I can then move its location on my register from Scotland to Sussex).
Also can you remember the 1st Gen reg you did own? It might be on my register (or still out there and not yet seen).
Cheers Dave.
Hi yes i will, just waiting for a phone call from the owner, any info on best insurance for these would be great.
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Post by: syebba on January 28, 2011, 12:55:54 PM
Insurance has been had by other members for as little as £110 fully comp. There was a thread on it recently,think Heritage came tops. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on January 28, 2011, 12:58:43 PM
That should take u to the thread,i over estimated cost some got insurance for £95!
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Post by: Ian65 on January 28, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
Quote from: Marcrs;739408Might be a dumb question...but mine seems a bit wallowy, not twitchy, but feels a little vague on the rear end...is this a possible culprit?
The bushes are the most likely culprits.... the car\'s 27 years old and probably on the original rubber bushes which will be well past their best. My 1st series 3 was only 4 years old when I bought it and was as tight as a drum and handled great but no 1st gen I\'ve had in recent years handles as well.... all have had that \'wallowy\' rear end but the radius arm points were sound on all the cars.... time taking its toll on the bushes I reckon..... We\'ll soon find out when I put the polys on the car!
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Post by: Ian65 on January 28, 2011, 05:38:20 PM
Quote from: Ian65;738924rough looking S2 parts car for sale in Doncaster...
this car has been bid up to £190 with 7 days still to go.... am I missing something here?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 28, 2011, 05:52:38 PM
Doesn\'t seem that good to me either. Do you remember the white S3 that was up in Rossendale late on last year? He was getting offers well below that for a complete car! So we must be missing something Ian - shall we bid on it too to find out what it is? hmmm ..... no I don\'t think so.
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Post by: Clarky on January 28, 2011, 06:31:18 PM
Quote from: Clarky;739433Hi yes i will, just waiting for a phone call from the owner, any info on best insurance for these would be great.
Well, i phoned and spoke to the John this morning, he said he would phone me back at 1pm, still waiting so i guess he has changed his mind.
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Post by: Ian65 on January 28, 2011, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: CHC;739473Doesn\'t seem that good to me either. Do you remember the white S3 that was up in Rossendale late on last year? He was getting offers well below that for a complete car! So we must be missing something Ian - shall we bid on it too to find out what it is? hmmm ..... no I don\'t think so.
when you consider this car is complete and reasonably unmolested and only £400.....
I do like those rear spoilers. Rear hatch struts still work! Biddings started now at £51,very doubtfull this elford will see the road again..
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Post by: Clarky on January 29, 2011, 05:18:59 PM
Hi David, had to think about the number of my old one, pretty sure it was, RBY 242X
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 29, 2011, 06:42:37 PM
Thanks John, \'Not Found\' as that reg on DVLA so possible broken up long ago.....(A couple of my old cars come up as \'Not Found\' as well). Anyway I\'ve noted it as a scrapper and if anyone mentions it in the future I\'ll let you know. What colour was it by the way?
When you get the Fife car home will you give us all a picture tour please?
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Post by: Clarky on January 29, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: David Nock;739607Thanks John, \'Not Found\' as that reg on DVLA so possible broken up long ago.....(A couple of my old cars come up as \'Not Found\' as well). Anyway I\'ve noted it as a scrapper and if anyone mentions it in the future I\'ll let you know. What colour was it by the way?
When you get the Fife car home will you give us all a picture tour please?
Shame & sad it was a great car, yes will take some pics
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Post by: Ian65 on January 31, 2011, 10:43:24 AM
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 31, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: Ian65;739771Now listed on ebay.... £150 start...... £375 buy it now... seems like a cheap car to me.
.
Reckon this one could be a good buy if you\'re handy with the hands and welding torch.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 31, 2011, 11:44:39 AM
And to complete the Trio of old friends advertised for second time around, that Silver S2 1983, that was in R C Woods, Hounslow is back on Autotrader. He wants £1495 for it, 76,000 miler.
No pics whatsoever (as before), so no Reg and absolutely no idea of condition. Last advert July 2010......how not to sell a car thinks I, particularly as it\'s a trader.
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Post by: Steve-A on January 31, 2011, 12:28:31 PM
I\'ll keep an eye on that silver one. After thinking about it when that Scottish one came up, a cheap 1st gen with tax and test would be perfect to keep me going between selling the mx5 and getting Rexanne finished.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on January 31, 2011, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;739790I\'ll keep an eye on that silver one. After thinking about it when that Scottish one came up, a cheap 1st gen with tax and test would be perfect to keep me going between selling the mx5 and getting Rexanne finished.
Going for membership in the 2 car owners league are we? Good job :cool
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Post by: Steve-A on January 31, 2011, 05:06:10 PM
Well I\'ve put so much time and effort into Rexanne so far, and I\'m getting impatient to drive her! So next best thing.....
Realistically I\'m on the look out for something to run once the mx5 is sold, while I take my time to do Rexanne to the standard I\'d like.
My criteria are:
Less than £1000 with tax + test RWD Manual gearbox Insurable (no 3L twin turbo 300zx for example) Some form or redeeming feature, such as fun to drive or bit of style to it etc.
Another standard mx5 is one option, but I\'ve had two already. I\'d considered a e30 3 series, but the more I look into it the more it looks like I\'d get a rot box for my budget. But it occurred to me reading that thread about the scottish s3,that an FB ticks all the boxes!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on January 31, 2011, 05:34:13 PM
1st gens are one of the bargains of the classic car world at the moment..... you can pick up a mot\'d example for upwards of £500...
Very simple cars to work on and maintain as long as the engine is strong
just a bit juicey to run as a daily driver ( depending on what sort of milage you do)
Not the easiest cars to sell on ( unless you threaten to strip it for parts.... should find a buyer pretty quickly then....!)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on January 31, 2011, 05:42:05 PM
Exactly Ian. And because of Rexanne I\'m pretty on the ball with how they go together already and have a big stack of spare parts essentially!
If I can get a £500er that\'d be great. Less money spent on daily drive = more money to spend on Rexanne and other £500 cars are gonna be ford fiesta etc and I swore I\'d never drive another econobox :P
I get the impression it would be as good if not better than my 13b in the mx5 is and I\'m daily driving that, so not too worried.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on January 31, 2011, 06:05:30 PM
Quote from: Ian65;7398331st gens are one of the bargains of the classic car world at the moment..... you can pick up a mot\'d example for upwards of £500...
Very simple cars to work on and maintain as long as the engine is strong
just a bit juicey to run as a daily driver ( depending on what sort of milage you do)
Not the easiest cars to sell on ( unless you threaten to strip it for parts.... should find a buyer pretty quickly then....!)
What about the Austin range,mmm,maxi,allegro & marina!:D
Strange in US & OZ Fb\'s are still sort after & command good prices for good examples[Japan may also be the same?],but here it\'s all escorts,crapri,s & saxo\'s.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on January 31, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
Cars such as the Maxi or Allegro is why I felt I needed to put the \'Some form or redeeming feature\' claus on my list of requirements :P ahaha
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Clarky on January 31, 2011, 08:05:54 PM
1988 LADA RIVA L BROWN
Cheap and a future classic
400.00:rollin
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on January 31, 2011, 08:09:32 PM
Thats disturbingly beige!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on January 31, 2011, 11:44:39 PM
Quote from: Lisa;739884Here are the details just recieved for a 1st Gen for sale. Not sure if the price is realsitsic or not.
Anyway anyone who calls Keith, please could they mention that they heard of the car via me. Conact no 0208 654 2083 Car is based in Shirley, South Croydon
Classic Mazda RX7 REG. RXI 5311 Series 1 Mark 3 1985
Opal Green Metallic -Private Number Plate - Alloy Wheels (Good condition) - Disc brakes all round - tilt or removeable steel sunroof - Panasonic 22w x 4 redio- casette - pop up headlights - rear fog light - electric windows/windows/aerial - original thermo-reactor & twin chrome exhaust ports -
A1 condition inside and out - alarmed. Two owners - present owner since 1992 MOT - total miles 89750
S2 wheels on a S1,would be challenging trying to find S1 wheels. Is this the S1 RX motors has for sale? Nice to see a S1 which has\'nt had S3 bumpers & interior fitted. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 07:35:01 AM
2 owners,A1 condition,if theres no rust i\'d say it\'s worth £2.5k.
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Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 07:48:16 AM
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C177000/
Austin Allegro unrestored £3995.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2011, 08:45:52 AM
Quote from: syebba;7399532 owners,A1 condition,if theres no rust i\'d say it\'s worth £2.5k.
When was the last time though, that you saw a 1st gen sell for £2500? There have been a few very nice cars advertised for that sort of money over the last 18 months and I can\'t remember any that appeared to find a buyer at that price ( or above in the case of some cars)
I\'m not saying it isn\'t worth that much, I reckon it\'s worth more but how do you put a value on them? Do you go on what the public are prepared to pay for them....which isn\'t very much.... or what they are worth to the owners.? Still, as they say, it only takes the right buyer at the right time. Nice photo... that one in front of the house is almost a calendar pic!
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2011, 08:50:03 AM
must be a typo..... needs to move the decimal point a couple of places to the left.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 09:24:39 AM
Quote from: Ian65;739960When was the last time though, that you saw a 1st gen sell for £2500? There have been a few very nice cars advertised for that sort of money over the last 18 months and I can\'t remember any that appeared to find a buyer at that price ( or above in the case of some cars)
I\'m not saying it isn\'t worth that much, I reckon it\'s worth more but how do you put a value on them? Do you go on what the public are prepared to pay for them....which isn\'t very much.... or what they are worth to the owners.? Still, as they say, it only takes the right buyer at the right time. Nice photo... that one in front of the house is almost a calendar pic!
I suppose at the end of the day a cars only worth what people are prepared to pay for it. I do think £2.5k is not a bad price for an A1 condition car,it\'d cost you more than that to buy a fixer/upper if you did,nt do the work yourself.
It\'ll be interesting to see if values ever do rise,once were out of this recession,but i\'ve always had the attitude if you want the best you gotta pay for it!
Having said that i\'m a perfectionist & particulary fussy about my cars,not everyone gets upset at less than perfect bodywork & mechanicals! ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2011, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: syebba;739966I suppose at the end of the day a cars only worth what people are prepared to pay for it. I do think £2.5k is not a bad price for an A1 condition car,it\'d cost you more than that to buy a fixer/upper if you did,nt do the work yourself.
It\'ll be interesting to see if values ever do rise,once were out of this recession,but i\'ve always had the attitude if you want the best you gotta pay for it!
Having said that i\'m a perfectionist & particulary fussy about my cars,not everyone gets upset at less than perfect bodywork & mechanicals! ta stu..
I agree with all of that Stu and it could cost you more than £2,500 even if you did the work yourself... a top notch respray could cost the best part of that, without other parts, consumables and your time..... restoring cars is expensive! Thing is, someone who\'s never restored a car before doesn\'t know that...!
It\'s a mystery to me why 1st gen values are so low at the moment and even the best cars are sticking and having to have their prices seriously reduced to attract buyers.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 10:12:11 AM
Restoring cars to A1 is expensive & time consuming. Complete respray inc engine bay £2.5 > £3k[dose\'nt inc stripping car] wheels refurbed & new tyres £800[recognised quality tyres] Welding work,depends on extent of corrossion £££? New recon engine £1500 fitted Rectify 25 years of neglect,brakes,suspension,electrics,exhaust,etc £££?
Looking at the above,makes £2.5k for an A1 car seem a bargain! ta..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 10:17:55 AM
Hmmmm To condense all of the above. I think a fixer upper should be £500 > £1000 & they seem to be attaining these figures. A1 cars are no where near attaining their true value,based on the amount you\'d have to spend to get an A1 car,they should be selling for £2.5>£4.5k depending on mileage & condition.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 10:22:44 AM
So again as said before this is why so many salvageable 1st gens are being scrapped at present, as it\'s simply not financially worth spending £1000\'s on them,it\'s very unlikely the owners would get back their expenditure.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 01, 2011, 11:37:33 AM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: David Nock;739999Where did this one pop up from Ian?
It\'s on car & classic
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on February 01, 2011, 03:17:01 PM
Jut to let folks on this thread know that the recently formed "Rotary Preservation Mob" (RPM) are looking into the possibility of "saving" one of the cars recently posted up on here. We were recently prompted to form the RPM when a 1st Gen in Scotland was under threat of being broken up for spares. Before we had to intervene, "Clarky" stepped up to mark to save the car, but we decided the RPM should remain alert, and on standby, to intervene at any time.
There are 4 mobsters at the moment who are willing to step in to buy a 1st Gen that is not selling in the open market, and may be at risk of being unloved or, worst still, being broken up :reallymad
The mobsters already own rotary cars of a more modern vintage, but have a hankering after providing a good home for an unwanted, unloved, classic car.
We\'ve no idea what we are doing (these cars are a little different to our current models, but with the same heart!), but I\'m sure with the help of the great MRC membership we can ensure continued survival of another one of these lovely cars.
We will ensure the vehicle is looked after in a caring environment :InLove
:cheers
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 01, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: syebba;740004It\'s on car & classic
Got it thanks....Norfolk location.....:3gears-lh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: gnj37 on February 01, 2011, 05:21:56 PM
evening David hows thing having my daily read
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 01, 2011, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: Casey;740043Jut to let folks on this thread know that the recently formed "Rotary Preservation Mob" (RPM) are looking into the possibility of "saving" one of the cars recently posted up on here. We were recently prompted to form the RPM when a 1st Gen in Scotland was under threat of being broken up for spares. Before we had to intervene, "Clarky" stepped up to mark to save the car, but we decided the RPM should remain alert, and on standby, to intervene at any time.
There are 4 mobsters at the moment who are willing to step in to buy a 1st Gen that is not selling in the open market, and may be at risk of being unloved or, worst still, being broken up :reallymad
The mobsters already own rotary cars of a more modern vintage, but have a hankering after providing a good home for an unwanted, unloved, classic car.
We\'ve no idea what we are doing (these cars are a little different to our current models, but with the same heart!), but I\'m sure with the help of the great MRC membership we can ensure continued survival of another one of these lovely cars.
We will ensure the vehicle is looked after in a caring environment :InLove
:cheers
Hi Casey and many welcomes.....could have saved you a lot of typing.....I would guess most of the 1st Gen regulars picked up the forming of the RPM society in the last few days.....we\'re cool cookies on here mate, average age about 73, don\'t miss much.
Seriously, I\'m sure we will all be very pleased to help in any way possible.
I\'m sure as well you do know what you\'re doing........ But if however you want some brilliant threads in the 1st Gen Section, which show what you might have to deal with, then Cliff\'s (CHC) posts about restoring \'Jaz\' then starting on \'Goldie\' and Steve\'s post (Steve-A) about working on \'Rexanne\' are brilliant. Then there is the UberRestorer\'s technical article.......that\'s Ian (Ian65) ; his work is mind blowing.......Shout if you can\'t find anything.
I\'ve not mentioned Keith, Gary, Marc, Ramon, Paul and Stu and others (who\'ve I missed?) in here but I\'m sure all the 1st Gen files will be opened to you. I am a doddering old street runner myself, not got an ounce of Resto left in me but I do fancy myself as the 1st Gen keeper of records. On that note I still have most contact details tucked away of cars in this thread so perhaps you like to give me a shout should anything take your fancy? I don\'t think a lot of cars have sold recently so there are quite a few still in the ether waiting for buyers.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 01, 2011, 05:40:56 PM
Quote from: gnj37;740058evening David hows thing having my daily read
Hi Gary, bit of action this day.....and last few days for that matter. A few new finds have appeared.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on February 01, 2011, 06:31:53 PM
Quote from: Casey;740043Jut to let folks on this thread know that the recently formed "Rotary Preservation Mob" (RPM) are looking into the possibility of "saving" one of the cars recently posted up on here. We were recently prompted to form the RPM when a 1st Gen in Scotland was under threat of being broken up for spares. Before we had to intervene, "Clarky" stepped up to mark to save the car, but we decided the RPM should remain alert, and on standby, to intervene at any time.
There are 4 mobsters at the moment who are willing to step in to buy a 1st Gen that is not selling in the open market, and may be at risk of being unloved or, worst still, being broken up :reallymad
The mobsters already own rotary cars of a more modern vintage, but have a hankering after providing a good home for an unwanted, unloved, classic car.
We\'ve no idea what we are doing (these cars are a little different to our current models, but with the same heart!), but I\'m sure with the help of the great MRC membership we can ensure continued survival of another one of these lovely cars.
We will ensure the vehicle is looked after in a caring environment :InLove
:cheers
Will there be cake ? (sorry, thought of portal when I read this)
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on February 01, 2011, 06:33:47 PM
Quote from: David Nock;740061(who\'ve I missed?)
Can\'t think who :Giggle
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 01, 2011, 06:41:48 PM
I think the 1st gen prices will rise with age, it just needs to get a little bit older.
In the short term something to raise its profile for the tuners market would make prices shoot up. Something to make the sort of people that buy a s13, AE86, mk3 supra, etc want one. Like if one of the big shops or magazines built one up as a time attack car or drift car or whatever. Make some pictures that people will want as desktop background on their computers, then watch the prices jump.
For the next couple of months its cool with me if the prices stay low and I can possibly pick one up for £500 or so with MOT :P
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 01, 2011, 06:43:54 PM
OMG.....Sorry Shaun, and Mark K, and Tim of course.....Sorry guys.....that\'s the trouble with recall these days.
Who Else Missed?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on February 01, 2011, 07:15:54 PM
David, thanks for the feedback!
73; thankyou, I feel positively young now :). I\'m 50, plus some odd extra years, but I tend not to remember how many, due to memory loss..... but I\'m not the oldest, or youngest RPM member!
The RPM are currently PM\'ing ideas on the cars we\'ve seen up for sale, but help from you experienced 1st Gen lot will be invaluable once we proceed :god
We aren\'t in a rush, we\'d like to get the "right one" at the "right price", that would otherwise not find a loving home....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Will66 on February 01, 2011, 07:20:10 PM
I AM the youngest member of the RPM. It\'s going to be fun, probably motivate me to learn to weld by the look of things, but well worth it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 01, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
Quote from: David Nock;740081OMG.....Sorry Shaun, and Mark K, and Tim of course.....Sorry guys.....that\'s the trouble with recall these days.
Who Else Missed?
I\'m still here ......................:wave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 01, 2011, 07:26:57 PM
Trying to do a list was a dangerous move Dave! I\'d have said \'and all the regulars\' or something :P haha
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 07:51:43 PM
The Rpm mob is the 1st i\'ve heard & i live on here! Will 66 i think we\'ve exchanged on the royal wedding thread,i thought u were a scot! Haha,totally wrong! Welcome. I can offer u plenty of hinderance if that\'s what u require,but if youre after really usefull info/advice ask Ian/Steve/David/Dibs/Cliff/Matt,bound to be someone else i\'ve missed out[Capitano!]. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;740076Can\'t think who :Giggle
Shaun
Sorry Shaun,of course!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 07:57:03 PM
A really cool car to save would be a S1,so few left now as David will tell you! Always had a soft spot for them. ta stu.. As far as i know there\'s 2, 4 sale, car & classic & RX motors,probably only 12>15 left.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 08:02:01 PM
Quote from: gnj37;740058evening David hows thing having my daily read
@gnj37. Forgive me if i\'ve eaten too many beefburgers & kebabs[spongyforum disease!],but did\'nt u completely strip & respray a 1st gen gold? ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Clarky on February 01, 2011, 08:06:13 PM
Good evening RPMs what date was the last 1st Gen made?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 08:12:52 PM
Quote from: Clarky;740099Good evening RPMs what date was the last 1st Gen made?
You obviously know the answer!
I\'ll take a punt officially 1986[c reg],but some unsold stock was registered on a k plate[Think Davids Fb is on a k plate]. ta stu
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2011, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Clarky;740099Good evening RPMs what date was the last 1st Gen made?
last manufactured in 1985.... but many were still registered in 1986 and a few ( old stock) in subsequent years.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2011, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: syebba;740096A really cool car to save would be a S1,so few left now as David will tell you! Always had a soft spot for them. ta stu.. As far as i know there\'s 2, 4 sale, car & classic & RX motors
plus the white one at Rotechniks
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Clarky on February 01, 2011, 08:40:27 PM
Quote from: Ian65;740104last manufactured in 1985.... but many were still registered in 1986 and a few ( old stock) in subsequent years.
Ok thanks.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 08:40:28 PM
Quote from: Ian65;740106plus the white one at Rotechniks
Yes Ian you\'re correct,so few left & i forgot about that one.
Whatever happened to that white S1 that was on ebay approx 6 months ago,pictured in that steel container?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 01, 2011, 08:42:05 PM
That new s1 on car and classic looks worth a look to me, I do like the subtle cosmetic differences of the s1. I\'d be down there looking if I was after a project, but I\'ve got plenty of project to be getting on with!
I thought the white one at Rotechniks WAS the one from the container?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 08:46:04 PM
A few subtle differences on S1\'s. Rear lights,rear end,bumpers,propshaft,interior lights & seats & i\'m told the front wings are different from S2/S3\'s on the front lower edge?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 08:50:58 PM
Oh & rubbing strips,clutch splines different,no leccy windows[but still has leccy ariel],different alloys,no rear wiper etc. Highrise seats in S1\'s were better than those fitted in S2/S3\'S. Steering more precise too.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on February 01, 2011, 08:51:27 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;740079Like if one of the big shops or magazines built one up as a time attack car or drift car or whatever. Make some pictures that people will want as desktop background on their computers, then watch the prices jump.
this one wont host http://api.ning.com/files/MHczoI8P5FOqYWWEnONNAUgESQ7wUuj06rdZ8ijV-IQ5F5Z78-00ojlW*YczTCLejH3wSYi0Li3loJXRAxNpXLNs7p6Xi2Q7/22c4.jpg (http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/434_04noname_01.jpg)
I just keep getting put off by the 12A carb\'d lump tbh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 08:55:39 PM
Argh,12A no good,stick a 13b in. A guy called peter or is it christopher is doing a 400bhp Fb,i think being done by Atomic Rex.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 01, 2011, 08:57:11 PM
Yes, those cars are awesome, get a few more builds like that, maybe even more extreme, just something that catches peoples eyes.
Kinda like \'that 240z\' that circulated a year or two ago. It was kinda ratty and not perfect and far to \'slammed\' in that kinda US way, but it got peoples imagination, and I\'ve seen far more 240 pictures and stuff floating about since, and far more of my friends who are only vaguely into cars now know what a 240z is.
12a carbed is fine, if its bridged with an IDA..... ;)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 01, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;740110I thought the white one at Rotechniks WAS the one from the container?
it is!................
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 09:04:44 PM
At the risk of upsetting some folks i think there\'s enough room for modded & stock Fb\'s in a club,but obviously if a car is mint it\'s a shame/crime to mod it!
If i had enough space i\'d have a modded & stock Fb,single 1960\'s garages unfortunately do not allow.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 09:06:33 PM
Is the opal green Fb from Scotland being saved now or has that fallen by?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on February 01, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
The problem is, to get them to the standard of this pics I posted, it takes mega monies
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on February 01, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: syebba;740120Is the opal green Fb from Scotland being saved now or has that fallen by?
Clarky on here has bought it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 09:24:29 PM
I can\'t deny it would cost money. Fc\'s did come with more power than Fb\'s,Ian is doing a Elford Turbo conversion & captain bizzaro[Tim] is putting a 13b lump in,so they would be the guys to ask ref cost/hassle/bhp output. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 01, 2011, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: Casey;740124Clarky on here has bought it.
Cool![Another one DOSE,NT bite the dust]:cheers
Last i heard the scot guy had\'nt got back to Clarky,so he assumed he was\'nt interested in selling it. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Clarky on February 01, 2011, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: syebba;740119At the risk of upsetting some folks i think there\'s enough room for modded & stock Fb\'s in a club,but obviously if a car is mint it\'s a shame/crime to mod it!
If i had enough space i\'d have a modded & stock Fb,single 1960\'s garages unfortunately do not allow.
Would love to Mod the one im getting but i wont. want to keep it standard, maybe a second one in the future to mod, iv\'e got enough to keep the 3rd Gen going at the moment, it\'s got a bad cough so has to go to the Doctors in the morning,
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on February 01, 2011, 09:59:41 PM
Thanks for remembering me Dave! :cool
What a great idea to help save the FB - such a great under rated car by many in this country. I know of quite a few of my friends still have these as second cars in NZ even though they have sensible haircuts and jobs nowdays.
As far as prices go, us Anitpodeans would certainly help to raise prices if there was more of us here - I know the 2 I have bought I paid over the odds for given the current market, and the most recent one, the guy had owned for 14 years, and had been offered silly low prices to the point where he had been insulted given the love he had poured in - I was happy to offer him something sensible knowing its intrisic value and he was much happier letting it go. New motto? "Save an FB, import a Kiwi!"
But reality prevails and it all comes back to the fact of a car is only worth what someone will pay for it - a perfectly good green car will be worth more to some of us than others (not mentioning names.. I_A_N :D) However, rest assured when the numbers dwindle as they are doing, prices will rise just like the RX2/3/4s are now - try to find even a basket-case of the aforementioned for cheap..
And for what its worth to those of you who frequent this thread - my 7 now has a little brother...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on February 01, 2011, 10:11:44 PM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;740114I just keep getting put off by the 12A carb\'d lump tbh
What is to put you off? Fairly simple to drop a 13b EGi into the babies and awa you go. If you are keep, I can help with bits tech info to make it a smooth transition - could easily be done in a day if the bits were on hand.
Didnt you run a 14s qtr in your EGI? take about 300kg off and you have a fairly nippy motor..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on February 01, 2011, 10:51:23 PM
The parts are easy to source and they feel much more nipply with a 13b.
Always think of Viking War hammer on Rx7club and tub a 1st gen with a ford 9in Axle and monster tyres under the stock arches at the back. Would need to be a fresh chassis, would be fun with the 3d CAD package I use for work (have a home license) to make it in CDS !
I\'m still considering selling up the 1st gen and getting a boring mondeo, partly for running costs but also for trailering the FD to tracks further away !
Don\'t worry about missing me in the list, I don\'t mind :Giggle
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 01, 2011, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: syebba;740119At the risk of upsetting some folks i think there\'s enough room for modded & stock Fb\'s in a club,but obviously if a car is mint it\'s a shame/crime to mod it!
Certainly I agree. Some cars are too good to butcher, and good clean original cars will always look good and feel great.
While other more used and abused cars can see a new lease of life when modded. Rusted arches don\'t matter when you\'ve cut them out for over arches, and mouldy carpets don\'t matter when you\'re removing them, if the 12a has died then there\'s no harm in swapping for a 13bt etc etc.
Quote from: SkifledanabitThe problem is, to get them to the standard of this pics I posted, it takes mega monies
I don\'t think it counts as mega money. The change on those cars that makes the biggest impact is the wheel choice, arches and ride height. After market springs/coilovers are no more expensive for FBs than FCs or FDs, fibreglass over arches aren\'t expensive, which just leaves the wheels. Real classic wheels, in low offsets and big widths will always cost money. On the other hand, blaspheming as it is, people like Rota are knocking out wheels for £450 a set, copying those classic designs. If its just the look you want then look no further than the new Rota\'s (dunno what they are called) but they are Hayashi Street copies in 15x9 et0 and AFAIK the usual Rota price of around £500 for 4......
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on February 01, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
I was lucky with my 17\'s, I got with tyres for £420 all in. Just had to replace a single wheel and that cost £130 alone !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on February 02, 2011, 12:29:46 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;740130What is to put you off? Fairly simple to drop a 13b EGi into the babies and awa you go. If you are keep, I can help with bits tech info to make it a smooth transition - could easily be done in a day if the bits were on hand.
Didnt you run a 14s qtr in your EGI? take about 300kg off and you have a fairly nippy motor..
well remembered... it was 15s btw, I think it\'s more a case of having no disposable income at the moment, plus (as is the case with most rotaries) about finding a decent example that I could do work on over time with a limited budget.
if you do have a little guide I can read through on the swap, I can start budgeting i guess.
btw, theres a couple of FB\'s for sale on ebay you may want to check out David
*EDIT* plus I already have the overfenders sitting next to me waiting to go on :D
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: Casey;740086David, thanks for the feedback!
73; thankyou, I feel positively young now :). I\'m 50, plus some odd extra years, but I tend not to remember how many, due to memory loss..... but I\'m not the oldest, or youngest RPM member!
The RPM are currently PM\'ing ideas on the cars we\'ve seen up for sale, but help from you experienced 1st Gen lot will be invaluable once we proceed :god
We aren\'t in a rush, we\'d like to get the "right one" at the "right price", that would otherwise not find a loving home....
We\'re not really 73....that was to try and get some seniority over you younger meggahorsepower buckos.
We do have John in the York area though. He\'s 82. :cheers and his artificial leg gives him a bit of a clutch control problem :eek......THIS IS NO KIDDUM, this is true.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;740090I\'m still here ......................:wave
Dibs.....I fell out of the bath last night as I remembered the others I\'d forgotten. I was just soaping up at the time and thought of you. :cool
Then there\'s......what\'s \'is name? No matter he\'ll be on here soon playing hell with me.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 02, 2011, 10:54:41 AM
I take a duck in my bath for that reason ............................... it gets the soap off....
Did you note we are up to 100 pages on this item, bet there are not many items on this forum with that number ....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: syebba;740093The Rpm mob is the 1st i\'ve heard & i live on here! Will 66 i think we\'ve exchanged on the royal wedding thread,i thought u were a scot! Haha,totally wrong! Welcome. I can offer u plenty of hinderance if that\'s what u require,but if youre after really usefull info/advice ask Ian/Steve/David/Dibs/Cliff/Matt,bound to be someone else i\'ve missed out[Capitano!]. ta stu..
It\'s \'cos it launched on the members chit chat pages Stu....a discussion about the Green S3 in Scotland.
@ Steve......Fatal isn\'t it to try and name all our band..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 11:09:01 AM
Quote from: shaunwil;740135I\'m still considering selling up the 1st gen and getting a boring mondeo, partly for running costs but also for trailering the FD to tracks further away !
Don\'t worry about missing me in the list, I don\'t mind :Giggle
Shaun
Noooo....Shaun, don\'t sell her because I missed you off the list mate....I\'ll do better next time. Promise.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: David Nock;740170Dibs.....I fell out of the bath last night as I remembered the others I\'d forgotten. I was just soaping up at the time and thought of you. :cool
Then there\'s......what\'s \'is name? No matter he\'ll be on here soon playing hell with me.
Johnnyboy. :confused:
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 11:14:27 AM
Quote from: David Nock;740172It\'s \'cos it launched on the members chit chat pages Stu....a discussion about the Green S3 in Scotland.
Ah too much discussing behind closed doors!:rolleyes:
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: syebba;740101I\'ll take a punt officially 1986[c reg],but some unsold stock was registered on a k plate[Think Davids Fb is on a k plate]. ta stu
There are 3 \'D\' Reg\'s that I\'ve come across, One was registered Aug 1986, still fully roadgoing, One registered Sept 1986, presently on SORN, and one in N. Ireland, again August 1986, this one possibly scrapped.
(The Registration year was different then, it ran August 1st to July 31st).
Our car (Wife\'s car) is a K plate, December 1992, wharehoused unregistered for years - various reasons known mainly to B & H Mazda dealers, Barnet.
I think the production lines will have shut down in late 1985....as Ian says.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 11:19:32 AM
Quote from: RamoNZ;740130What is to put you off? Fairly simple to drop a 13b EGi into the babies and awa you go. If you are keep, I can help with bits tech info to make it a smooth transition - could easily be done in a day if the bits were on hand.
Didnt you run a 14s qtr in your EGI? take about 300kg off and you have a fairly nippy motor.
Ramonz
That\'s a good point about the Fb\'s reduced weight compared to a Fc,easily overlooked. 300kg sounds a lot,bag of cement is 25kg,that\'s 12 bags of cement!
Weight of Fb\'s in Haynes manual is listed at 1082kg @skifledanabit,whats Haynes say the Fc weight is out of interest?
Ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: syebba;740175
Quote from: David Nock;740172It\'s \'cos it launched on the members chit chat pages Stu....a discussion about the Green S3 in Scotland.
Ah too much discussing behind closed doors!:rolleyes:
It seems that members are allowed to see cars /parts or whatever offered to the club as priority viewing posts.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 11:33:40 AM
Would\'nt these arches be illegal on UK roads as they don\'t cover the tyres properly,especially the rears?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 11:33:42 AM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;740142btw, theres a couple of FB\'s for sale on ebay you may want to check out David
I\'ve got 3 at the moment on ebay, a White S2 in Doncaster, Silver S2 in Devon, and an Elford Scrapper in Truro. Tim\'s Red S3 from RX motors was on but is now Sold I think?
Thanks for the info....FB spotters always required, apply within.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 11:36:26 AM
Quote from: Steve-A;740136Certainly I agree. Some cars are too good to butcher, and good clean original cars will always look good and feel great.
While other more used and abused cars can see a new lease of life when modded. Rusted arches don\'t matter when you\'ve cut them out for over arches, and mouldy carpets don\'t matter when you\'re removing them, if the 12a has died then there\'s no harm in swapping for a 13bt etc etc.
I don\'t think it counts as mega money. The change on those cars that makes the biggest impact is the wheel choice, arches and ride height. After market springs/coilovers are no more expensive for FBs than FCs or FDs, fibreglass over arches aren\'t expensive, which just leaves the wheels. Real classic wheels, in low offsets and big widths will always cost money. On the other hand, blaspheming as it is, people like Rota are knocking out wheels for £450 a set, copying those classic designs. If its just the look you want then look no further than the new Rota\'s (dunno what they are called) but they are Hayashi Street copies in 15x9 et0 and AFAIK the usual Rota price of around £500 for 4......
Could,nt of said it better myself Steve,of course it\'ll cost,but depends what you call mega money. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 11:46:19 AM
Quote from: David Nock;740184I\'ve got 3 at the moment on ebay, a White S2 in Doncaster, Silver S2 in Devon, and an Elford Scrapper in Truro. Tim\'s Red S3 from RX motors was on but is now Sold I think?
And the Blue S3 in Coventry - where the owner is honestly displaying the sills. Remembered that one ....late!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 12:05:01 PM
(http://is00.thegumtree.com/image/extrabig/44471776.jpg) I think u have this one Dave,£500 on Gumtree.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 12:30:51 PM
Why\'d u think this is not selling,only S1 TWR in UK,low mileage,price at £4k?? Unbelievable when u see allegros at £4k,also saw a mk1 lotus escort at a very reasonable £65000! ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 05:51:47 PM
Am i right that TWR\'s had no extra power,it was only the Elfords?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 02, 2011, 05:52:37 PM
That\'s why its not selling... 4 grand... no demand for it and too much money. and who\'s actually buying Allegros for 4 grand?... you\'d have to be on drugs!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 05:55:17 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 06:07:49 PM
Hmmmmmmmm,maybe i,m out of touch or too obsessed with 1st gens, only 1 in UK & no more than 13 other lesser models remaining,you\'d think it\'s exreme rarity would be enough to justify it\'s price tag? Wonder if he\'ll take an offer,only joking!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 02, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
I think stretched tyres look awful,kerbing damage! Looks like the tyres are gonna fall off round a sharp corner!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 02, 2011, 06:14:34 PM
Aye, not good for handling, not good for ride comfort, not good for tyre wear.... Generally not good!
but balloons for tires aren\'t great either! There\'s a sensible middle ground.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on February 02, 2011, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: CHC;740213Well if you ever do decide to sell on Shaun - remember us old *astards want first offer :Thumbs-up
I\'ll remember, one thing for sure it would go to a good home. Not for breaking !!!
Still just a thought, If gas doesn\'t get any worse in price then it will stay with me. Probably needs some cash spent on it too. Looking at uprating the suspension with Suspension Technics Springs, and anti roll bars and Tokio dampers all round.
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on February 02, 2011, 07:04:38 PM
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Post by: Skifledanabit on February 02, 2011, 07:56:12 PM
dragster... niiiiice... still love the fender flares if i\'m going for that style though
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 09:25:33 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;740284I\'ll remember, one thing for sure it would go to a good home. Not for breaking !!!
Still just a thought, If gas doesn\'t get any worse in price then it will stay with me. Probably needs some cash spent on it too. Looking at uprating the suspension with Suspension Technics Springs, and anti roll bars and Tokio dampers all round.
Shaun
As Ian was saying earlier Shaun, it is not enough for us enthusiastics to just save these icons from the \'rotarsheds\', we go to the next level knowing these beauties will require money spent on them to loving restore them back to their former glory. If it was for the monetary gain, hmmmm ... I think we would all loose out in the long term.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 02, 2011, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;740285This style still floats my boat :
I think this is something we\'d all agree on, the raw beauty of the SA :InLove
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on February 03, 2011, 01:16:55 AM
Just a quick off topic question... Do you think any of you guys will be bringing your FBs to the tunnel run I posted up in the events section? I don\'t think I\'ve ever seen an FB there, it would really make my day if you could
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 03, 2011, 06:46:21 AM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;740384Just a quick off topic question... Do you think any of you guys will be bringing your FBs to the tunnel run I posted up in the events section? I don\'t think I\'ve ever seen an FB there, it would really make my day if you could
I can\'t find the details for this, can you put up a link, I\'m on a SORN at the moment, but if I have time I you never know ..............
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 03, 2011, 07:15:49 AM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 03, 2011, 10:04:46 AM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;740384Just a quick off topic question... Do you think any of you guys will be bringing your FBs to the tunnel run I posted up in the events section? I don\'t think I\'ve ever seen an FB there, it would really make my day if you could
I\'d luv to attend but have other plans for that weekend :Hammer - ho hum, there\'s always next year I suppose.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 03, 2011, 10:05:44 AM
I\'d be up for it if my FB wasn\'t just a shell and pile of parts right now :P
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 03, 2011, 10:30:33 AM
We should be checking our calendars now to free up a weekend or two to meet up :driving - come on, nobody has any excuse for not having a calendar. What you say guys?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Brett on February 03, 2011, 10:49:20 AM
Anyone want to see the picture of the mint, 34,000 mile example I\'ve just been looking at? ;)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 03, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
Now Brett what do you think .................... Get it up here ...............
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Brett on February 03, 2011, 11:00:52 AM
Ok, this car is located in an undisclosed location on the south coast, it\'s not really been on the road for years, but its immaculate and just needs taxing. The current owner has had it for 16 years and has no intention of selling :King
Was very greatful to be shown around it :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 03, 2011, 11:07:18 AM
Thanks Brett, Dave get that Reg number, and it has less miles than mine ......... 37K but mine does go on the road ........... sometimes
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 03, 2011, 11:25:55 AM
That does look mint. Looks like an old toyota supra next to it?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Brett on February 03, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
Yep, the Supra is suffering from rot though...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 03, 2011, 12:04:07 PM
Quote from: Brett;740441Yep, the Supra is suffering from rot though...
Very nice rex there Brett - let\'s hope it doesn\'t decide to get together with the Supra!
Has the owner used the rex since owning it or was it specifically bought to be in storage?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Brett on February 03, 2011, 12:23:14 PM
It\'s been used, and the owner has it on display in his showroom from time to time... the supra was brought about 10 years ago because it was cheap... however it was kept outside for too long and by the time they found space for it inside, the rust had take hold. Ilve not had a proper look around it yet, but I doubt its terminal.
The Rex was brought to use - he just doesn\'t get a lot of time to drive the cars - but it\'s always maintaied etc.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 03, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
Quote from: Brett;740452It\'s been used, and the owner has it on display in his showroom from time to time... the supra was brought about 10 years ago because it was cheap... however it was kept outside for too long and by the time they found space for it inside, the rust had take hold. Ilve not had a proper look around it yet, but I doubt its terminal.
The Rex was brought to use - he just doesn\'t get a lot of time to drive the cars - but it\'s always maintaied etc.
Well I hope he has more time to enjoy it in the future - perhaps he already has too many toys to play with ? Supra was a beauty in it\'s day, in fact put next to a Starion they were of a similar design if I recall correctly - I liked them both.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on February 03, 2011, 12:56:50 PM
I\'m a bit too far for the tunnel run. Did consider in the FD last year with a stop over !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 03, 2011, 12:57:24 PM
QuoteOk, this car is located in an undisclosed location on the south coast,
QuoteThanks very much Brett. Without giving too much, is that South Coast as in South East, Central South Coast or South West? My simples location file that I upload from time-to-time works within those rough area categories so it would be useful to have rather than just \'Unknown Location\'.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Brett on February 03, 2011, 01:47:17 PM
I\'ll send you a PM :wave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 03, 2011, 03:11:21 PM
Quote from: CHC;740456Well I hope he has more time to enjoy it in the future - perhaps he already has too many toys to play with ? Supra was a beauty in it\'s day, in fact put next to a Starion they were of a similar design if I recall correctly - I liked them both.
I always thought the celica & supra looked alike,the starion had arch flares on it. A friend had one of those supra\'s 2.8i decades ago when i had my 1st Fb,the rex left the supra for dead,especially on the twisty bits. Bit of an overweight wallowy old barge supra\'s on corners,there tooooo big & toooo heavy. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 03, 2011, 05:23:19 PM
Those 2.8i Supras looked nice from the outside until you got inside and then they were the epitome of 80\'s tack with that hideous digital dash.... nasty!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 03, 2011, 05:27:30 PM
Quote from: Brett;740477I\'ll send you a PM :wave
Got it, thanks Brett.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 03, 2011, 05:37:36 PM
MMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm now I remember why I bought my 1st RX7 - looking back this is a bit tacky now. However as I always say, everyone to their own.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Clarky on February 04, 2011, 08:22:57 PM
Quote from: Clarky;739590Hi David, had to think about the number of my old one, pretty sure it was, RBY 242X
I have two reg for you, maybe you already have them on your Register
FKD 7Y
A418 UYE
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 04, 2011, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Clarky;740705I have two reg for you, maybe you already have them on your Register
FKD 7Y
A418 UYE
the red one last on the road in 97 and the green one last on the road in 2007
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 05, 2011, 05:31:23 PM
The Red one FKD was Des Sullivan\'s old car, long time back. Last noted owned by a lady in Dorset 1994. TWR wheels and an RGA? bodykit in those days.
UYE not seen before, as above,....2007.... it was running up to recently. What\'s it\'s history?
Thanks Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 05, 2011, 05:45:39 PM
Dave thats brought back some old memories, I remember when Des started up the original RX7 owners club, wonder what ever happened to him.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Clarky on February 05, 2011, 06:28:03 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;740812Dave thats brought back some old memories, I remember when Des started up the original RX7 owners club, wonder what ever happened to him.
This is info i got in there second year of the club.
Chairman: John Wennell Secretary: Des Sullivan Treasurer: Andy Wheel Event Sec: Lyn Pinnock
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 05, 2011, 07:03:40 PM
Clarky, did you ever go to any of the meets at Jimmy\'s ? As I have stated on here before I was lucky enough to have the No. 7 membership for the old club.
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on February 06, 2011, 02:29:25 AM
Breaker is Terry in Ware, Herts, mob 07850676117.....Text best \'cos poor signal. I\'ve put him on the \'Cars Breaking\' list.
It might be a car for saving - happen? Guys?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 07, 2011, 12:22:12 PM
There is another Red car on ebay now. 1981 S2. No pic but it\'s got Black Leather/Red Piping. Portsmouth Area.
Certain to be the Red S2 from Cornwall.... Remember the pic in the garage at Tintagel; the one with the back wheel off? Same desciption, same milage but a year on at 149,000.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 07, 2011, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Ian65;642764Early series 2 project on Ebay, KYO 531X, in Cornwall.
He\'s ruined it.... what\'s the point in doing that?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on February 07, 2011, 03:04:35 PM
I think you\'re right Ian, wonder how it handles with all the extra weight up front.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 07, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;741220I think you\'re right Ian, wonder how it handles with all the extra weight up front.
crap I would imagine.... if someone wants a V8 engined car, why not buy one that\'s been designed, built and engineered by a car manufacturer thats goes, stops, handles and looks like should.
The whole point of a RX7 is the rotary engine... take that out and all is lost!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 07, 2011, 04:27:40 PM
I hear you.
V8s in the right time and place are awesome, but they don\'t belong in 7s.
To me I think its about matching chassis character to engine character. If any piston engine were to go in an rx7 (though personally thats not the game) it should be something like a f20c vtec, or 4age. Something light and small and responsive, that matches the nimble chassis.
Where as if you really wanted to swap an american v8 into a jap car it kinda seems more appropriate for a supra or something thats kinda larger and bulkier.
All that said, if someone offered me a Ferrari v8, and said I could only use it if it went in my 7, I think I\'d take them up on it for the noiiiise alone!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on February 07, 2011, 05:07:40 PM
Reminds me of my old FC... seen a lot more cars around with the red and black bonnet scheme... makes me wonder if I\'m a design genius without knowing lol
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 09, 2011, 11:20:00 PM
Quote from: Ian65;739482when you consider this car is complete and reasonably unmolested and only £400.....
Says a Jap Turbo.... Looks like a gonna though.....Worcs.
Job for Gazeboman?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 14, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: gnj37;742601Lots of cars on the move at moment
Certainly is.....I\'ve gone dizzy this morning. Entering \'em up, Shifting \'em around, Putting the kiss of death on a car I\'m guessing is a Scrapper.
It\'s a hard life..... Missus is tappy tapping about.....Supermart beckons....Oh well, St Valentine would have gone along with shopping trolleys don\'t you think? .....:WaveBye
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 14, 2011, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: David Nock;742628Cambs.....I still need the Reg for this one.
On the ebay ad,it says he also stripped a 1981 Fb for donor parts. ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 14, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 14, 2011, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: David Nock;742631Says a Jap Turbo.... Looks like a gonna though.....Worcs.
Job for Gazeboman?
Hmm, I might have to drop that guy a txt and go over and have a poke around it. Ebay says its less than 5 miles from my home.
It does look a bit far gone to me, but looks like an Elford bumper? and be interested to find out more about the turbo set-up, could be worth bidding upto £300 just for those two bits and let the owner keep the rest! If I did go have a look I\'d take plenty of pics and try and work out just how far gone she is.
p.s. I\'m not sure I like the nickname :P hahaha
EDIT: Just txt him, will wait for a reply!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 14, 2011, 03:01:52 PM
It\'s a hard life..... Missus is tappy tapping about.....Supermart beckons....Oh well, St Valentine would have gone along with shopping trolleys don\'t you think? .....:WaveBye[/quote]
Yeah - only if it were being pushed by the fairer sex :rollin:rollin
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on February 14, 2011, 03:59:19 PM
That deserves a pic. A Brodie Britain turbo,l/h hooker.!
To save anybody else having to go through Google...
BBR are still going strong, doing various conversions on MX5\'s.
From bbrgti.com:
The History of the BBR Mazda MX-5 Turbo In 1990, exactly twenty years ago, renowned tuner and BTCC entrant Brodie Brittain Racing (BBR) was approached by Japanese car importer Mazda UK to tender for a 150BHP Turbo kit to fit the new MX-5 sportscar. Initially, there was an expectation that production would run to around 200 units. Naturally there was competition to win the tender from other UK tuners, but BBR commenced work on the most economic turbo layout for the MX-5. In addition the criteria from Mazda UK demanded that the MX-5 turbo kit was to be a dealer fitment, so it was vital that the key components were simple to install - ‘like Lego,’ recalls Dave Brodie. After an intensive development process BBR had soon established an ideal turbocharger package and subsequently won the Mazda UK tender, which contained strict design briefs regarding power limitations. One of the biggest design issues in this process was controlling the on boost fuelling, as there was no facility for this in the original Mazda ECU. Rising to the challenge BBR developed its own piggy back ECU called Interceptor, which enabled BBR to manipulate the electronic map settings from the original Mazda ECU to optimise the engine’s fuelling and ignition parameters for the turbocharger set up. The end result was a Mazda UK approved, dealer fit, turbocharger kit that increased the power on the MX-5’s B16P engine from 115 bhp to 150 bhp. Warmly received by the motoring press and public alike, the BBR MX-5 turbocharger kit swiftly gained a reputation for bulletproof reliability and over the next few years BBR sold more than 1200 examples of the turbo kit, without a single engine failure."
No mention of Rotary turbo\'s though...
john
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 14, 2011, 07:04:41 PM
I did some googling,nothing on BBR turbo conversions on rotaries. Maybe because it\'s so long ago,pre internet.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on February 14, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
Interesting car and some interesting parts but I dont think that BBR set-up would fit in a right hand drive car, shame.
Keith...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on February 15, 2011, 07:48:09 AM
BBR have just re-released the turbo kit for the MX5 NA (Mk1) and a BBR Cosworth supercharger for the NC (Mk3) :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 15, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
This is what the ad says on ebay:- "THE CAR WAS FITTED WITH A JAP IMPORTED TURBO WHICH THE ENGINE TURNS OVER".
Could this be a Supercharger? Or am I reading too much into the words? Comments Guys?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 15, 2011, 11:55:50 AM
I wouldn\'t say it looks like it from the photos, but the engine bay photo is pretty poor.
If the bloke would respond to my txt, I\'d be over there digging around taking more photos for you guys!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Silverstone Autosport on February 15, 2011, 09:43:36 PM
does our group b count ?????
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 15, 2011, 09:52:40 PM
I want that. Lots.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Silverstone Autosport on February 15, 2011, 09:56:07 PM
its making its trip tonight ;-)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 15, 2011, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Silverstone Autosport;743055does our group b count ?????
YES - it\'s still a 1st Gen no matter what condition or style you have chosen. Incidentally this car is fantastic - good luck guys @ SPA. Cliff :3gears-rh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Silverstone Autosport on February 15, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
Quote from: CHC;743067YES - it\'s still a 1st Gen no matter what condition or style you have chosen. Incidentally this car is fantastic - good luck guys @ SPA. Cliff :3gears-rh
Cheers cliff , will keep you all informed of the progress , did you manage to get the bushes out ?????????
rich
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 15, 2011, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: Silverstone Autosport;743069Cheers cliff , will keep you all informed of the progress , did you manage to get the bushes out ?????????
rich
Haven\'t got round to looking at them yet - I\'ve just taken out the rear anti-roll bar and checking out the stabilizer links. Putting photos on \'Goldie\' thread. Now loosening off bolts and nuts from other suspension parts preparing for the big strip out - I\'ll let you know. Ta Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: borgue on February 16, 2011, 10:11:21 AM
Sad news, could you remove A220 PBW from active service please, as "rusty" was a victim of mud on the road last night in the deepest depths of Norfolk.
Ollie.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 16, 2011, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: borgue;743149Sad news, could you remove A220 PBW from active service please, as "rusty" was a victim of mud on the road last night in the deepest depths of Norfolk.
Ollie.
Hope nobody was injured and that \'Ollie\' not too damaged.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 16, 2011, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: Silverstone Autosport;743055does our group b count ?????
Hi Rich,
Deffo it counts, as Cliff says....all 1st Gens are counted....it\'s actually listed already under \'Roadgoing and Rally Series 2\'s , one of the running S 2\'s.....I\'ve got it dated as a 1983 with a question mark against that date....would that be right?
Good luck. Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 16, 2011, 02:02:26 PM
Quote from: borgue;743149Sad news, could you remove A220 PBW from active service please, as "rusty" was a victim of mud on the road last night in the deepest depths of Norfolk.
Ollie.
Oh dear Ollie, we can ill afford to loose any....Will Rusty make it back to the Roadgoing Scene do you think? You\'re posting so assume you\'re in one piece. Hope So.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on February 16, 2011, 05:25:37 PM
That deserves a pic. A Brodie Britain turbo,l/h hooker.!
I dropped BBR an e-mail asking if they had any details about the car or the conversion, but they have just responded "Sorry we no longer carry records dating back over 10 years" so no go....
john
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: borgue on February 16, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
im fine thanks. so is the tree. sadly the car took all of the impact and is deemed to be beyond repair which is a real shame.
the engine and running gear are ok, so i might look for a good rolling chassis or a car with a blown engine to fix up.
just really cheesed off. all due to mud on the road...
Ollie
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 16, 2011, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;743230I dropped BBR an e-mail asking if they had any details about the car or the conversion, but they have just responded "Sorry we no longer carry records dating back over 10 years" so no go....
john
Maybe it was a cobbled together conversion meant for the MX5? I\'ve never heard of a BBR turboed rex before,well until now!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 16, 2011, 07:19:35 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 16, 2011, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: David Nock;742946This is what the ad says on ebay:- "THE CAR WAS FITTED WITH A JAP IMPORTED TURBO WHICH THE ENGINE TURNS OVER".
Could this be a Supercharger? Or am I reading too much into the words? Comments Guys?
Nah,think they mean the engine physically turns over by hand.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 16, 2011, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;742948I wouldn\'t say it looks like it from the photos, but the engine bay photo is pretty poor.
If the bloke would respond to my txt, I\'d be over there digging around taking more photos for you guys!
Ha, some peeps are beyond explanation,they place an advert,then can\'t be assed to respond to enquiries.Simples don\'t place an advert then.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 16, 2011, 07:26:30 PM
Yeh, if you\'re not gonna respond to txts then don\'t put \'txt or call\' in your advert. Was 3 days ago I sent him a message saying that ebay said I was less than 5 miles from this car and that I wanted to have a look.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 16, 2011, 11:05:00 PM
The car is awesome and is even better close up - 1 of 12 apparently.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on February 17, 2011, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: syebba;743256Ha, some peeps are beyond explanation,they place an advert,then can\'t be assed to respond to enquiries.Simples don\'t place an advert then.
You can see the red viscous fan in the engine bay which was a hallmark of the factory 12A Turbo, by the looks of things it has been converted to SU carby - they were all injected/non intercooled from the factory.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 17, 2011, 05:36:34 PM
That\'s interesting Ramon. I\'ve never considered how factory turbo\'s were put together before. I presume Elford had some sort of \'No Sale\' agreement here on the Jap units (to protect their business)?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on February 17, 2011, 06:00:22 PM
I quoted the wrong person! That actually makes no sense in my context...
Anyway, the Elford is a \'draw-through\' design in which the carb is mounted on the turbo inlet and the fuel/air mixture is compressed - intercoolers on this type of design are a big no-no due to the fuel condensing inside the intercooler and essentially making a bomb if there were a backfire.
This beauty above, has the same blow through design as the factory turbo, but using an SU - I figure someone bodged the 2 kits together as it looks a bit home-made but uses a similar carb. I suspect they did this to avoid having to wire in the factory ecu or perhaps it was bought with out it for cheap. Def a factory turbo though, the red fan is the giveaway.
I doubt there was any such factory agreement on that part, the factory 12AT was sold only in Japan so even rotary friendly NZ/OZ and the US didnt get one. More likely the UK sales asked, were told no, and got Elford to start building them. I believe the factory turbo was superior on all accounts anyway - being fuel injected - but dont flame me if you dont think so (Ian) :)
Anyway, enough waffle from me...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 17, 2011, 08:13:28 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;743365You can see the red viscous fan in the engine bay which was a hallmark of the factory 12A Turbo, by the looks of things it has been converted to SU carby - they were all injected/non intercooled from the factory.
Thx Ramonz a clear & concise reply in response to peeps posting adverts & not replying to enquiries.:evillaugh ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 17, 2011, 09:51:53 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;743420I quoted the wrong person! That actually makes no sense in my context...
Anyway, the Elford is a \'draw-through\' design in which the carb is mounted on the turbo inlet and the fuel/air mixture is compressed - intercoolers on this type of design are a big no-no due to the fuel condensing inside the intercooler and essentially making a bomb if there were a backfire.
This beauty above, has the same blow through design as the factory turbo, but using an SU - I figure someone bodged the 2 kits together as it looks a bit home-made but uses a similar carb. I suspect they did this to avoid having to wire in the factory ecu or perhaps it was bought with out it for cheap. Def a factory turbo though, the red fan is the giveaway.
I doubt there was any such factory agreement on that part, the factory 12AT was sold only in Japan so even rotary friendly NZ/OZ and the US didnt get one. More likely the UK sales asked, were told no, and got Elford to start building them. I believe the factory turbo was superior on all accounts anyway - being fuel injected - but dont flame me if you dont think so (Ian) :)
Anyway, enough waffle from me...
Very interesting waffle though :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 17, 2011, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: RamoNZ;743420I quoted the wrong person! That actually makes no sense in my context...
Anyway, the Elford is a \'draw-through\' design in which the carb is mounted on the turbo inlet and the fuel/air mixture is compressed - intercoolers on this type of design are a big no-no due to the fuel condensing inside the intercooler and essentially making a bomb if there were a backfire.
This beauty above, has the same blow through design as the factory turbo, but using an SU - I figure someone bodged the 2 kits together as it looks a bit home-made but uses a similar carb. I suspect they did this to avoid having to wire in the factory ecu or perhaps it was bought with out it for cheap. Def a factory turbo though, the red fan is the giveaway.
I doubt there was any such factory agreement on that part, the factory 12AT was sold only in Japan so even rotary friendly NZ/OZ and the US didnt get one. More likely the UK sales asked, were told no, and got Elford to start building them. I believe the factory turbo was superior on all accounts anyway - being fuel injected - but dont flame me if you dont think so (Ian) :)
Anyway, enough waffle from me...
good interesting stuff! The red fan could have been added retrospectively.... I have an Elford turbo that came with a red fan... obviously fitted sometime in the past when the original fan gave up the ghost. The reason mazda didn\'t sell the factory 12at worldwide was down to reliability concerns. The company had fought hard to overcome the publics reservations about reliability of the rotary engine and had concerns about how it would stand up to being boosted. They therefore restricted its sale to the JDM market only, never releasing it overseas where any potential engine problems would destroy its hard earned reputation..... they were happy to authorise the likes of Elford though as any problems would fall back into Elfords lap and tarnish their reputation, not Mazdas. As far as I\'m aware, Elford started developing them off their own bat and only got Mazda approval after they were tried and tested. I\'ve read plenty about the Elford actually outperforming the factory 12at but who knows?! I\'ve never seen one let alone driven one although I\'d love a dabble in one. Mappable EFI against the simplicity of the suck through carb job.... ! The factory 12at did have better suspension, lighter rotors and lower compression ( so more scope for boost) though.... a nicely engineered car as you\'d expect from the factory.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on February 18, 2011, 05:16:03 PM
All the discussion was getting to me. I wanted to KNOW.....
So I phoned the guy.
His name is Steve. He is a builder and was on top of a roof repairing the lead flashing around a chimney. He apologised for not always answering his phone on the grounds that sometimes you just need your hands to hold on with....
Seemed a very nice bloke.
The story is: Back in the day Steve was a bit of an "automotive restorer" and acquired a Red none-running RX7. It needed a new engine and he found an imported Jap turbo 12at engine and gearbox in Swansea. When he came to fit it he realised it was an injection jobbie and that this was altogether too difficult to fit into a "carburettor" RX7 (I am no mechanic - what would the problem have been?) so he got an SU carb off a Maestro turbo and had a mate make him a manifold for it (!). This all worked and he got it MOT\'d etc. and ran it for a while........ and then wrote it off. Enter the Silver one as another none runner. He swapped the engine and got it through an MOT, but by this time had lost interest and did not finish the rest of the renovation (that\'s why there are some "red RX7" parts included in the sale). He just parked it up in a mate\'s barn.... and 8 years passed...... His farmer friend is now looking at it in his barn and suggesting something is done with it. Steve is currently renovating a Bond Bug (strange... he seemed so sensible...) and he doesn\'t fancy the fuel consumption of a Turbo Rotary in these recessionary times so it is up for sale. So there we are. He says if anybody wants to have a look give him a ring on 07811816391(and maybe leave a message if he is up a ladder...) and as he is self employed he can do it pretty well anytime. He seemed to know what he was talking about - a bit of an enthusiast, if somewhat misguided - and would love it if someone had it as a project. John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: RamoNZ on February 18, 2011, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: CHC;743464Very interesting waffle though :)
Like a red rag to a bull.....
Slam dunk for me - Jap import turbo engine, injection stuck in the too-hard basket so home made carb conversion!
Main issue putting the FI engine in this car is the high pressure fuel system required. Carby only requires about 4-5psi of pressue, FI is up to 40-50psi. On top of that, you need some kind of fuel surge protector - with a carby car, you have a fuel resevoir inside the carb so low fuel and cornering is not noticed as the pump just catches up.
With the FI - if the pump draws air, you instantly lose pressure and power - an annoyance on an NA street car, but starts to get expensive on a boosted car - but thats another story.. (..anyone??):driving
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 18, 2011, 07:45:35 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on February 18, 2011, 10:57:12 PM
I gotta buy it just so I own NEV and WEV haha.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 19, 2011, 11:40:40 AM
I thought I\'d post this here too:
I just had a chat to the guy with the turbo in Bromyard on the phone, he said he\'d been in touch with John and mentioned someone in Sussex as well had been in touch? dunno if its one of us? I know Cliff called.
Either way I let him know I was interested in the bumper if he wanted to split it from the car or more likely if the new owner wanted to sell it, etc. I know he said about breaking the car in his eBay add, but I\'d feel guilty if he sold parts to me outside of eBay and let someone else down, who might be bidding just for the bumper and turbo really. The car is literally a couple of miles up the road from me, so he\'s gonna phone me back and I\'m gonna go have a poke around it and see what I can see! I\'ll let you guys know what I find.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 19, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
Hi Steve, do us a favour and when you talk to him just ask the guy if he can remember the Reg of the Red one he wrote off? Roughly when?
Doesn\'t matter in the slightest if not, but it\'s all parts in the jigsaw puzzle.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 19, 2011, 04:56:08 PM
Amazing whats on ebay,supercharger kit for 12A engine $3200 US dollars.
Ian\'s recently picked up a complete car for less than that.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on February 20, 2011, 10:23:49 PM
Thought this may be of interest Elford Turbo spoilers for sale on Ebay, item number 140514471408, £200 or make an offer.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 20, 2011, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: daverey;744206Thought this may be of interest Elford Turbo spoilers for sale on Ebay, item number 140514471408, £200 or make an offer.
2nd time it\'s been listed....only offers he had 1st time were from me. I offered him £150 and he came back with a price of £190... so he\'s still got them.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 20, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
One for inspector nock. 1982 fb being broken,looks opal green.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 20, 2011, 10:49:14 PM
It\'s a damn good job I\'ve got no money in my pay-pal account. Otherwise I\'m a couple of glasses of wine down and really fancy a super charger/Elford spoiler!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 20, 2011, 10:51:03 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;744222It\'s a damn good job I\'ve got no money in my pay-pal account. Otherwise I\'m a couple of glasses of wine down and really fancy a super charger/Elford spoiler!
plus it would look the dogs d*** on the front of your car!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 20, 2011, 10:53:38 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 20, 2011, 10:54:05 PM
I\'ll get one when I\'ve got the money... I\'m waiting to see if the guy with the FB that was on ebay locally with an Elford front gets back to me or not!
Supercharger sounds like an interesting option honestly, I need to get researching!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 20, 2011, 10:58:18 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 20, 2011, 11:34:51 PM
Those Elford rear spoilers in my opinion are the best looking for a 1st gen,especially when colour coded,fibreglass too,so paint won\'t peel off.
Bet that pic above is a Jaguar V8!
Don\'t worry Steve that supercharger is bloo$y pricey,looks nice though.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 20, 2011, 11:39:28 PM
It is kinda pricey.
The Camden Supercharger kits for rotary sound interesting though. $2400 buys a complete kit for a 12a or 13b to run up to 11 psi of boost with a draw through carb....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 20, 2011, 11:48:16 PM
you could do with that car off ebay then with the 12at engine because they were low compression engines.... giving you more scope for greater boost. The standard 12a like the Elford used had standard compression which limited the amount of boost it could stand.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 21, 2011, 12:03:12 AM
True, though the auction has ended for the eBay car, and I\'d probably look for a 13b anyway.
Either way this is all way into the realms of speculation seeing as there\'s along way to go before I\'m ready to even think about engines!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 21, 2011, 11:44:30 AM
Looking a bit grotty in there Ian, hope youre not neglecting her :cool
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 21, 2011, 07:56:38 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;744488Looking a bit grotty in there Ian, hope youre not neglecting her :cool
I hate cleaning cars! I\'ve only hoovered this car a couple of times in 2 years... I might have it valeted in the spring! I\'m not a fan of steaming modern engines though... tends to do more harm than good with all those electronics.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 21, 2011, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: Ian65;7382051982 series 2 for sale in south east..... NUL 911Y £800
I can\'t believe this series 2 still hasn\'t sold.... now only £400...
http://www.gumtree.com/london/34/73980134.html
Seems a very cheap car to me.
.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on February 21, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
I guess it\'s the no MOT or tax thing that\'s scaring people off. I always feel a little bit like if the MOT has just run out and its only the very minor things stated in the advert, why not chuck it through a test! Maybe the seller knows a reason why it wont pass...?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 21, 2011, 09:28:18 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;744542I guess it\'s the no MOT or tax thing that\'s scaring people off. I always feel a little bit like if the MOT has just run out and its only the very minor things stated in the advert, why not chuck it through a test! Maybe the seller knows a reason why it wont pass...?
quite right! but at 400 quid it\'s now in the resto territory so surely someone will take it on soon... hope so.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 21, 2011, 10:03:47 PM
That\'s a massive price drop £800>£400. It looks like a tidy car,not much visible rust.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 21, 2011, 10:10:08 PM
Have to say. Useless pics,only 2 & a muddy car is\'nt helping,& gumtree! Should try pistonheads,classic car,or last resort ebay.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on February 21, 2011, 10:46:59 PM
It\'s white therefore I want it. There better be a white standard S2 for sale once Nev is finished that\'s all I can say!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on February 21, 2011, 10:55:22 PM
Youre right, you cant beat a 1st gen in white!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 01:46:08 AM
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Post by: A7RXY on February 22, 2011, 07:15:30 AM
Not sure that\'s the type of white car he means, does nothing for me, the rear end sucks ..........
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on February 22, 2011, 12:56:36 PM
Quote from: Ian65;744539I can\'t believe this series 2 still hasn\'t sold.... now only £400...
http://www.gumtree.com/london/34/73980134.html
Seems a very cheap car to me.
.
OK, the RPM might be interested in this one, if no-one else is up for saving it?
Does anyone know any previous history on the car? I\'m planning to call the seller soon to get some more info.
If it is a runner, an the MOT was just a lapse, not a major failure, then we might go and take a look. If so, I\'ll be seeking some advice from you expert 1st Gen guys on what we should be looking for (e.g. rust in sills, wheelarches, under carpets, plus mechanical stuff to check....) :god
Although we are happy to spend some sensible money on getting the car up to scratch, we don\'t want to take on a money "black hole" :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;744610Not sure that\'s the type of white car he means, does nothing for me, the rear end sucks ..........
Had to post it due to it\'s uglyness.:Typing
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: Casey;744665OK, the RPM might be interested in this one, if no-one else is up for saving it?
Does anyone know any previous history on the car? I\'m planning to call the seller soon to get some more info.
If it is a runner, an the MOT was just a lapse, not a major failure, then we might go and take a look. If so, I\'ll be seeking some advice from you expert 1st Gen guys on what we should be looking for (e.g. rust in sills, wheelarches, under carpets, plus mechanical stuff to check....) :god
Although we are happy to spend some sensible money on getting the car up to scratch, we don\'t want to take on a money "black hole" :)
Ad says it runs well,though choke is,nt working. No mention of mileage? Check it starts from hot & cold & look for rust everywhere.
When i look at cars,it\'s usually not pratical to lift carpets,i always jack the car up,slide in some axle stands & have a damn good look & poke around.
If the owners reduced from £800>£400,they sound desperate to get rid of it,maybe a cheeky offer £275?
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Post by: Steve-A on February 22, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
Take a look in mine and Cliff\'s thread for rust issues. The main areas to watch for are the back edge of the sills and upper rear suspension links, where they join the underside of the rear seats.
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 02:45:26 PM
It\'s G8 that your saving a few more Fb\'s,numbers are dwindling rapidly. There at ridiculously low prices at the moment,so if you can get a good one,it\'s a good time to buy. ta stu..
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Post by: Casey on February 22, 2011, 03:29:03 PM
Many thx for the advice and encouragement. Just phoned the number in the advert - no reply, but left a message.
BTW, anyone know what happened to the Opal Green 1st Gen in Croyden advertised for £2,500? I spoke to the seller, made an offer (subject to inspection) and said I wouldn\'t chase, but to call me back once he\'d mulled it over. No response.....
When we eventually get a car, I suspect we are going to need a lot of help from you 1st Gen guys who\'ve trodden the path before us. Being as all the RPM are RX-8 owners, a 1st Gen isn\'t going to be too familiar to us! Happy to learn along the way - probably the hard way :Hammer
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 04:28:38 PM
This was the one in croydon on page 97 of this thread. No idea if still available.
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Post by: Steve-A on February 22, 2011, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: Casey;744683When we eventually get a car, I suspect we are going to need a lot of help from you 1st Gen guys who\'ve trodden the path before us. Being as all the RPM are RX-8 owners, a 1st Gen isn\'t going to be too familiar to us! Happy to learn along the way - probably the hard way :Hammer
Working on a 1st gen is about as hard as a Lego/Mechano (generation dependent!) set. It really is very easy to understand compared to anything modern like an RX-8.
I mean I thought my mx5 was fairly simple mechanically, but the 1st gen makes it feel fairly complex!
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Post by: Casey on February 22, 2011, 07:34:27 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;744695Working on a 1st gen is about as hard as a Lego/Mechano (generation dependent!) set
Ahhhh, memories......I was of the generation that was brought up on Mechano, then moved on to Lego, probably when it first came to the UK! I then started wearing long trousers :Laugh
I should be OK then :)
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Post by: Ian65 on February 22, 2011, 08:11:34 PM
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
2.9v6 ford lump,hmmm. Reminds me of that white fb for sale with a bonnet bulge with the BMW engine fitted.
That white S1 from RX motors must have sold,it\'s not on their site,rotechniks still has their white S1 for sale.
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Post by: Steve-A on February 22, 2011, 08:25:10 PM
Poor thing, to have the heart of a Ford :(
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 08:31:03 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;744741Poor thing, to have the heart of a Ford :(
Don\'t let the ford old skool boys hear you say that! Was,nt the 2.9v6 used in granada & sierras. Should imagine it\'s a very heavy engine.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 22, 2011, 08:35:59 PM
no tax, no test, tatty bodywork, wrong engine....... £500 mmmmmm
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Why did\'nt they just put in another 2nd hand 12A engine,less work,hassle & cost & better resale?Or a 13b!
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 08:40:58 PM
Unfortunately me thinks it\'ll end up as a spares car..
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Post by: Ian65 on February 22, 2011, 08:44:34 PM
Quote from: syebba;744743Don\'t let the ford old skool boys hear you say that! Was,nt the 2.9v6 used in granada & sierras. Should imagine it\'s a very heavy engine.
yeah, it\'s an increased stoke version of the old Cologne V6.... A real heavy cast iron, push rod monster with cast iron heads... I\'ve rebuilt a couple of them... back in the day... antiquated old junk
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 08:50:05 PM
Cast iron heads too,hmmm. I had a 3ltr essex lump in a mk1 crapri,cast iron everything,weighed a ton,good for a tractor engine i should imagine. Heads always used to warp on those essex 3ltr lumps.
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 08:52:17 PM
I thought u loved capri\'s Ian? Or you had enough of them!
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Post by: Ian65 on February 22, 2011, 08:56:14 PM
the 2.8i cologne replaced the V6 Essex in the Capri when the Essex could no longer meet emission requirements. Alright in a Capri but in a 1st gen RX7.... daft idea!
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Post by: syebba on February 22, 2011, 09:07:12 PM
Well lets face it,the capri was not a fine handling car with 50/50 weight distribution! The essex lump i had in my mk1 was bored out to 3.2 litres by specialised engines in essex,made a slight improvement to acceleration,but the car still handled crap,brake fade on front,front nose diving,rear end snappy,tramlining on uneven surfaces! G8 in a straight line,but on the twisty bits you\'ll be uprooting hedges!
The Fb is made for twisty roads & is much better for protecting our endangered hedgerows.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 22, 2011, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: syebba;744754I thought u loved capri\'s Ian? Or you had enough of them!
I loved \'em in my late teens and early 20\'s but sold my last one before I bought my 1st RX7. About 3 1/2 years ago, I was looking for a project and bought an absolute ruin of a Capri to restore. It made me realise how basic and cheaply built they were.... a real marketing triumph for Ford.... a cheap car that sold like hot cakes.
I had to force myself to finish the car because I just didn\'t like it... Everything about it seemed old fashioned.... leaf spring rear suspension, 70\'s Ford dash, crap build quality...
they make 1st gen RX7\'s seem like the Starship Enterprise.... never go back they say.... I wish I\'d never had!
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Post by: Steve-A on February 22, 2011, 10:40:57 PM
I\'ve never been in a Capri, only ever seen them from the outside, but to me as a young\'un they almost seem a decade behind the Rx7, hard to believe they came from the same time!
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Post by: shaunwil on February 22, 2011, 11:18:00 PM
Its amazing how much the FD moved it on too, that was only a decade later.
The FB can be so much fun :D
Friend at work owned something like 28 Ford Capri ! All at different times :Giggle
Shaun
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Post by: Steve-A on February 22, 2011, 11:31:48 PM
Fun sounds good!
I\'m very very very much looking forward to my first drive, more than a few hundred yards up a straight farm track, in an FB. I think about it every time I go out and work on the car :)
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Post by: A7RXY on February 23, 2011, 07:22:52 AM
KYO 531X on Pistonheads, can\'t remember where we saw this last.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2536564.htm
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Post by: syebba on February 23, 2011, 02:01:25 PM
2.9 Scorpio engine, was for sale in Wales as a Project Car last Summer.
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Post by: johnnyboy on February 23, 2011, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: David Nock;7449512.9 Scorpio engine, was for sale in Wales as a Project Car last Summer.
I had a Scorpio engine once, and it was excellent - mind you it was in a Scorpio.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 23, 2011, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;745015I had a Scorpio engine once, and it was excellent - mind you it was in a Scorpio.
the best place for it!!
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Post by: syebba on February 23, 2011, 10:15:04 PM
Belongs in a massey ferguson tractor!:Giggle
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Post by: johnnyboy on February 23, 2011, 11:00:17 PM
Quote from: syebba;745044Belongs in a massey ferguson tractor!:Giggle
A 2.9V6 would be better than the engine in my Leyland tractor....
It has a 1500cc Diesel MGB engine....
john
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Post by: myatt1972 on February 23, 2011, 11:05:59 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;745066A 2.9V6 would be better than the engine in my Leyland tractor....
It has a 1500cc Diesel MGB engine....
john
The BMC 1.5 is a great little lump, been powering narrowboats for the past 30 odd years. If you have any trouble with yours I know them inside out ! Keith...
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Post by: ossie747 on February 24, 2011, 01:02:08 AM
Just saw the following up for grabs on car and classic if anyone\'s got the money.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C201229/
Not sure if this ad had been posted previously?
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Post by: Ian65 on February 24, 2011, 06:53:15 AM
only reached £256... reserve not met... are times really that hard?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 24, 2011, 11:43:45 AM
Quote from: ossie747;745096Just saw the following up for grabs on car and classic if anyone\'s got the money.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C201229/
Not sure if this ad had been posted previously?
Yes, it was posted a bit back Os.
I think I said looked like a nice car and easy to get hold of in Spain.
Dave
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 24, 2011, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: Casey;744665OK, the RPM might be interested in this one, if no-one else is up for saving it?
Does anyone know any previous history on the car? I\'m planning to call the seller soon to get some more info.
If it is a runner, an the MOT was just a lapse, not a major failure, then we might go and take a look. If so, I\'ll be seeking some advice from you expert 1st Gen guys on what we should be looking for (e.g. rust in sills, wheelarches, under carpets, plus mechanical stuff to check....) :god
Although we are happy to spend some sensible money on getting the car up to scratch, we don\'t want to take on a money "black hole" :)
Have a word with \'Ian\' Casey - Ian produced a "1st Gen FB Buyers Guide" last year, surely has to be of use. Cliff
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Post by: syebba on February 24, 2011, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745111only reached £256... reserve not met... are times really that hard?
They must be! £256,what\'s that 4 fill ups with petrol.
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Post by: syebba on February 24, 2011, 01:56:00 PM
Bid on at £500 with 5 days left,this has got a ford engine & box in it! The above silver one looks tidier & has the correct engine,but only bid to £256!
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Post by: Ian65 on February 24, 2011, 07:37:22 PM
Quote from: Ian65;744539I can\'t believe this series 2 still hasn\'t sold.... now only £400...
http://www.gumtree.com/london/34/73980134.html
Seems a very cheap car to me.
.
now back up to a grand
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2540812.htm
WTF?
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Post by: Casey on February 24, 2011, 07:45:03 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745310now back up to a grand
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2540812.htm
WTF?
No idea what this seller is up to. Left a message two days ago, in response to the "gumtree" £400 ad. I haven\'t had a call back and now he\'s asking a grand, for a with no MOT! No chance, lost interest in that one now.
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Post by: JBerg on February 24, 2011, 07:50:34 PM
jesus, whats with all the price hikes today?
theres also another 800 quid one on PHeads I emailed about...runs fine but mot is running out in a month...sounds like a dodgy floor repair too...says he will put more pics up soon.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2536564.htm
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Post by: captainbizzaro on February 24, 2011, 11:36:08 PM
I think it just means it\'s been undersealed
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 25, 2011, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: Ian65;642764Early series 2 project on Ebay, KYO 531X, in Cornwall.
theres also another 800 quid one on PHeads I emailed about...runs fine but mot is running out in a month...sounds like a dodgy floor repair too...says he will put more pics up soon.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2536564.htm
John.....From September 2009
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Post by: syebba on February 25, 2011, 12:50:54 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745310now back up to a grand
http://pistonheads.com/sales/2540812.htm
WTF?
The spring bounce:2Rolleyes
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Post by: Ian65 on February 25, 2011, 06:58:15 PM
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Post by: captainbizzaro on February 25, 2011, 07:31:05 PM
mmmmmmm goooooooold
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Post by: Steve-A on February 25, 2011, 08:12:40 PM
Wonder what the shell is like. £350 + a 2nd hand clutch and a couple of hours to fit it and run it through an MOT would be pretty damn cheap motoring...
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Post by: captainbizzaro on February 25, 2011, 08:20:59 PM
Yeah I\'m gonna have a dabble on that, only thing better than one gold S2 is two gold S2\'s.:InLove:InLove:InLove
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Post by: syebba on February 25, 2011, 08:40:50 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;745529Yeah I\'m gonna have a dabble on that, only thing better than one gold S2 is two gold S2\'s.:InLove:InLove:InLove
The next bids gonna be expensive £1.04!:Giggle
A very vague description of car,no mention what so ever about condition of bodywork or chassis,you\'d have to see the car before intending to buy. He says engine not been running for over a year,but it will go,how\'s he know if he has,nt started it?:xconfused
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Post by: Steve-A on February 25, 2011, 09:01:04 PM
I was tempted but I\'ll leave it to you Tim :P
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Post by: captainbizzaro on February 25, 2011, 09:08:13 PM
Yeah the usual questions asked, although if someone goes in with the buy it now then it\'s no bother I won\'t get all stroppy haha. If the seller replies to my email I\'ll let y\'all know.
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Post by: A7RXY on February 25, 2011, 09:13:39 PM
Just chk\'d the sellers feedback looks like he got it off ebay in 2009
Seller: [URL="http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/repairablevehicles]Member ID repairablevehicles[/URL] ( Feedback score of 52 (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=repairablevehicles)(http://p.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconBlueStar_25x25.gif))
Seller: Member ID repairablevehicles (http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/repairablevehicles) ( Feedback score of 52 (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=repairablevehicles)(http://p.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconBlueStar_25x25.gif))
Seller: [URL="http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/repairablevehicles]Member ID repairablevehicles[/URL] ( Feedback score of 52 (http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=repairablevehicles)(http://p.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/icon/iconBlueStar_25x25.gif))
[QUOTE="adam6900;577590](http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/aldcarspares2009/rx7/P1000005.jpg) Only thing is i will have to delete these from the work photobucket so if you want to keep them please right click and save them! Last taxed in 1996 and last started in 1996!!
12 years later and it pops in to life within 30 seconds! <--Just convinced me that rotorys are not as .... as i thought!! LOL
Dave Nock should remember this one,he\'s sniffing about for the glass moonroof off this car on above thread.:)
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Post by: Ian65 on February 25, 2011, 10:48:42 PM
cheap car for £350 if it\'s still as tidy as it looks in these photos... the glass roof has got to be worth 100 quid by itself!
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Post by: Steve-A on February 25, 2011, 11:09:54 PM
A couple of quotes from the other thread :(
QuoteThanks for the advice, have had a good look over it and it needs quite a lot, all break pipes fule pipes petrol tank and a few other bits + 4 bits of welding, will chuck it on ebay for parts if it makes £400 it will go compleat if not we will break it ourselfs
QuoteFound out the history, its been parked up in the dry since 1996!!! i think i was being a bit harsh on how rotten it is, its actualy not that bad it needs a Strip and underseal underneath the car, and the end of the sills welding up, i took a big hammer to it and the rest was surface rust, fuel pump is not working but with a inline leccy one it runs 110% fine I was Shocked at that!!
Hmm that news on brake + fuel hoses and the sill rot basically sounds exactly the same as Rexanne. If it had just been off the road for 6 months/ a year and just needed the clutch doing I\'d have had a punt I think, but there\'s no point having two project in exactly the same state!
But I have to say what a resource the club is :) Its awesome that 90% of the cars that turn up can be traced so we know ore what we\'re looking at and it takes the gamble factor out!
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Post by: Ian65 on February 25, 2011, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;745575But I have to say what a resource the club is :) Its awesome that 90% of the cars that turn up can be traced so we know ore what we\'re looking at and it takes the gamble factor out!
quite right... that\'s why it\'s so important that we feed any snipets of info to Dave so that he can record it all. Even if a car is already listed on his database, it\'s still important to track its movements and anything else we find out.
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Post by: Ian65 on February 25, 2011, 11:24:55 PM
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Post by: Ian65 on February 25, 2011, 11:30:00 PM
nice rear light combination! haven\'t seen that before.
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Post by: syebba on February 25, 2011, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: syebba;745543I asked him
1]last mot 2]condition of bodywork & chassis 3]How\'d you know the engine will start if it has,nt been run in over a year?
Just had reply back from seller of gold S2.
I quote \'she is to rusty\'.
That\'s all the info in relation to the above questions!:xconfused
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 25, 2011, 11:57:19 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745585nice rear light combination! haven\'t seen that before.
Looks like an offside SA light unit to me.
Looks tidyish with the usual areas falling foul of corrosion and body panels don\'t appear to have that many dings in them - wonder what it is like underneath in the culprit zones?
Leave it for you Tim - make it a brace for Easter.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 26, 2011, 12:02:25 AM
Quote from: syebba;745590Just had reply back from seller of gold S2.
I quote \'she is to rusty\'.
That\'s all the info in relation to the above questions!:xconfused
Sounds a little ominous - so perhaps it might end up for stripping and spares, over to you David and hope you can do a deal for the glass bit.
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Post by: syebba on February 26, 2011, 12:24:55 AM
Glass moonroofs listed at RotaryArt £75 + vat,but out of stock!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 26, 2011, 12:10:43 PM
Blxxdy Hell. Haven\'t even had time to scratch my boxxocks and think this morning. You\'ve done it all. Well done, your old master IS pleased.
I might give \'em a mail on ebay \'bout the roof if no one on here wants it with the Car?
I\'m not really fussed - usual thingy, if they\'ll part it out, how do I get them to pack it properly from 170 miles away?
However I don\'t mind paying a reasonable price if one of my friends on here buys the car and wants to sell? More reliable that way.
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Post by: syebba on February 26, 2011, 03:14:54 PM
Quote from: CHC;745601Sounds a little ominous - so perhaps it might end up for stripping and spares, over to you David and hope you can do a deal for the glass bit.
Yes cliff,his reply was as much effort as his advert.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 26, 2011, 04:34:14 PM
And this is the Orange one from Wolverhampton via last port-of-call Sheffield. Doesn\'t seem to stay long anywhere? Poor old Tango.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on February 26, 2011, 05:42:55 PM
Quote from: David Nock;745722And this is the Orange one from Wolverhampton via last port-of-call Sheffield. Doesn\'t seem to stay long anywhere? Poor old Tango.
I couldn\'t even bring myself to post it, it\'s that horrible.
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Post by: A7RXY on February 26, 2011, 05:49:14 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745723I couldn\'t even bring myself to post it, it\'s that horrible.
Your dead right there Ian, even the one you have just cut up in its present state looks better ..................
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Post by: Ian65 on February 26, 2011, 05:49:59 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745714Elford turbo for sale on ebay...
now reduced to £1950.... how much lower will it need to go to find a buyer.... and this is a very nice original car. I can\'t remember the last time I know a 1st gen sold for 2.5k or above... 2 grand seems to be the top price at the moment for the best cars. I bet it\'ll be even lower when we\'re paying £8 a gallon.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 26, 2011, 06:46:54 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745732now reduced to £1950.... how much lower will it need to go to find a buyer.... and this is a very nice original car. I can\'t remember the last time I know a 1st gen sold for 2.5k or above... 2 grand seems to be the top price at the moment for the best cars. I bet it\'ll be even lower when we\'re paying £8 a gallon.
How long have you has discounted petrol in the Staffs area Ian?
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Post by: antnicuk on February 26, 2011, 07:03:02 PM
i\'d like to see more pictures of the orange one. I need a wide arch shell for my next project...... FBD3S
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Post by: Casey on February 26, 2011, 07:45:29 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745732now reduced to £1950.... how much lower will it need to go to find a buyer.... and this is a very nice original car.
Interesting, so he still hasn\'t managed to sell this one. I left him to "mull over" an offer from the RPM, but he never got back to me. He still thinks it\'s worth more than we do (in the current climate).
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Post by: syebba on February 26, 2011, 07:50:23 PM
Rear end looks like a corvette/ferrari,lose that skyscraper spoiler at rear. S3 original rims sprayed black. It looks like the works actually been carried out to a good standard,all it needs are lambo doors! Like marmite,an acquired taste.:2Rolleyes
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Post by: Ian65 on February 26, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on February 26, 2011, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: antnicuk;745746i\'d like to see more pictures of the orange one. I need a wide arch shell for my next project...... FBD3S
That car sounds ideal for you then,i remember a few years ago we saw this up for sale & there were more pics,it looks to be done well,but i remember it being dyno rod orange!
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Post by: syebba on February 26, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
Ah well done Ian.
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Post by: syebba on February 26, 2011, 07:59:41 PM
Dose,nt appear to be any rust on the lower panels,but plastic don\'t rust... Maybe FD mirrors. Wonder what kit,maybe mariah widebody from US?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on February 26, 2011, 08:14:03 PM
If you\'re gonna change the rear lights ,why on earth would you use lights from a trucking spares catalogue?
I reckon the RPM guys should take on the Elford at Tim\'s place.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on February 26, 2011, 08:45:47 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;745773I reckon the RPM guys should take on the Elford at Tim\'s place.
Funny you should say that......
I\'ve contacted the rest of the RPM and asked for their opinions. We\'ll only get serious if no-one on the MRC wants to buy it - we don\'t want to bid the price up for anyone else! The other factor is that it is in slightly worse condition than what we are aiming for, but I\'ll see what the others think. We are thinking more of "Preserve", whereas that on is bordering on "Restore"
Anyone else thinking of bidding for this one?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on February 26, 2011, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: Casey;745778Funny you should say that......
I\'ve contacted the rest of the RPM and asked for their opinions. We\'ll only get serious if no-one on the MRC wants to buy it - we don\'t want to bid the price up for anyone else! The other factor is that it is in slightly worse condition than what we are aiming for, but I\'ll see what the others think. We are thinking more of "Preserve", whereas that on is bordering on "Restore"
Anyone else thinking of bidding for this one?
Not the right colour for me but it is a car worth bidding for - so go ahead and bid, good luck.
For me, part of the joy of owning an FB is getting the hands dirty and understanding the workings of the body and its\' heart if need be. I also understand that not everybody has the desire nor experience for restoration but then, I\'m no expert - but at least I have the enthusiasm and dedication to try and in doing so, this results in \'preservation\'. :cheers
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Post by: TRIND-FD on February 26, 2011, 10:48:57 PM
Quote from: Casey;745778Funny you should say that......
I\'ve contacted the rest of the RPM and asked for their opinions. We\'ll only get serious if no-one on the MRC wants to buy it - we don\'t want to bid the price up for anyone else! The other factor is that it is in slightly worse condition than what we are aiming for, but I\'ll see what the others think. We are thinking more of "Preserve", whereas that on is bordering on "Restore"
Anyone else thinking of bidding for this one?
Hi malcolm, I have placed a bid on the elford. Keith
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Post by: Casey on February 27, 2011, 12:48:36 AM
^^^ Keith, if you get it for £250 it\'ll be a real bargain! I suspect the reserve is a little higher :(. Keep us informed if you get "out-bid" and are dropping out, RPM might then re-assess. In the meantime, we\'ll stand back.
There don\'t seem to be any shortages of FB\'s coming onto the market!
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Post by: johnnyboy on February 27, 2011, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: Casey;745778Funny you should say that......
I\'ve contacted the rest of the RPM and asked for their opinions. We\'ll only get serious if no-one on the MRC wants to buy it - we don\'t want to bid the price up for anyone else! The other factor is that it is in slightly worse condition than what we are aiming for, but I\'ll see what the others think. We are thinking more of "Preserve", whereas that on is bordering on "Restore"
Anyone else thinking of bidding for this one?
I was thinking of bidding just to get the aircon - so few had it. Lack of aircon is the only thing I regret about Miss January. Goodness knows how difficult the swap would be. Awful I suspect. And presumably you guys would want that as well... John
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Post by: antnicuk on February 27, 2011, 10:30:04 AM
Thanks for the pics What or who are RPM?
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Post by: antnicuk on February 27, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;745843I was thinking of bidding just to get the aircon - so few had it. Lack of aircon is the only thing I regret about Miss January. Goodness knows how difficult the swap would be. Awful I suspect. And presumably you guys would want that as well... John
one of my FB\'s had an aircon button but no aircon, also, due to the age of the car it is bound to leak and you woudlnt be able to fill it up with the gas that it was designed for.
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Post by: johnnyboy on February 27, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
Excuse me being Nerdy, but what is that bit of trim in front of the rear wheels?
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Post by: johnnyboy on February 27, 2011, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;745845one of my FB\'s had an aircon button but no aircon, also, due to the age of the car it is bound to leak and you woudlnt be able to fill it up with the gas that it was designed for.
Keep talking there.... Don\'t they take the same gas (and presumably refill fittings) as modern cars? It never occurred to me that the wouldn\'t. I was thinking that if I had the pipes and general "special to RX7" gubbins, I could always buy a new compressor / condenser etc. Or is this idea rubbish? Be aware that you are in the process of destroying a dream..... John
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Post by: TRIND-FD on February 27, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: Casey;745817^^^ Keith, if you get it for £250 it\'ll be a real bargain! I suspect the reserve is a little higher :(. Keep us informed if you get "out-bid" and are dropping out, RPM might then re-assess. In the meantime, we\'ll stand back.
There don\'t seem to be any shortages of FB\'s coming onto the market!
Hi Malcolm , will do. I had a look at it last time I was down tims, made a comment on this thread about it. Was hoping to pop down and try and do a deal with Tim before I see it was on eBay :(. Its a honest car. Just the paint is the down side. .
Keith
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Post by: Ian65 on February 27, 2011, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: johnnyboy;745847Keep talking there.... Don\'t they take the same gas (and presumably refill fittings) as modern cars? It never occurred to me that the wouldn\'t. I was thinking that if I had the pipes and general "special to RX7" gubbins, I could always buy a new compressor / condenser etc. Or is this idea rubbish? Be aware that you are in the process of destroying a dream..... John
my view was that as long a you\'ve got the whole complete system, you could convert it ( or have it converted from the old R12 gas to the newer R134A gas... you\'d want to replace the seals and o rings anyway on a car this old.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on February 27, 2011, 11:31:26 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;745844What or who are RPM?
:Giggle:Giggle
Keep up Tony! Look back at post number 2432 in this thread LINK TO PAGE HERE (http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54589&page=98) and all is explained......
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 27, 2011, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;745844Thanks for the pics What or who are RPM?
A small group (of RX8 owners?) who set up the other week to form a consortium to save a worthwhile FB......More likely save a worthwhile pub\'s profits methinks.......:guinness
Sorry post crossed
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Post by: syebba on February 27, 2011, 01:21:06 PM
Excuse me being Nerdy, but what is that bit of trim in front of the rear wheels?
Someone wants it here? I\'m interested, but if other user here are in the auction, I leave to them ;) I\'ve saw an FC LHD from RX Motors, in rebuilding, someone had already buoght/service done from them? Thanks a lot :Thumbs-up
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Post by: syebba on March 01, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on March 01, 2011, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: Ian65;745852my view was that as long a you\'ve got the whole complete system, you could convert it ( or have it converted from the old R12 gas to the newer R134A gas... you\'d want to replace the seals and o rings anyway on a car this old.
Auction ended.....I guess it sold at the £950 Buy it Now.
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Post by: johnnyboy on March 07, 2011, 12:42:31 PM
Quote from: David Nock;747422Auction ended.....I guess it sold at the £950 Buy it Now.
Lets hope the new owner knows about us and comes on the forum! - this does sound an interesting car...
John
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 09, 2011, 12:29:16 PM
On ebay today, Ref 280641703390, Black S3 for Spares or Repair, under a hedge in Bromsgrove. Bad pic so no Reg ....Grrrrr.....
Been under the hedge for 6 years....should sell cheap.
Call mobile 07812099304.....Chris
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Post by: Steve-A on March 09, 2011, 12:52:43 PM
Poor thing :(
There do seem to be a surprising amount turning up in and around Worcestershire recently! I\'ve no interest in it, but if one of you guys are keen and millions of miles away, I could probably go have a poke around with a camera for you :)
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Post by: syebba on March 09, 2011, 02:47:24 PM
A G8 clear & crisp picture,should do well:evillaugh Maybe TWR rear spoiler,looks like the one on keiths car. Owner says wheels are in G8 condition as can be seen in the pic:xconfused
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Post by: Steve-A on March 09, 2011, 03:04:27 PM
Hmm wonder if that means TWR front too.... Cant make it out.
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Post by: johnnyboy on March 09, 2011, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: David Nock;747859On ebay today, Ref 280641703390, Black S3 for Spares or Repair, under a hedge in Bromsgrove. Bad pic so no Reg ....Grrrrr.....
Been under the hedge for 6 years....should sell cheap.
Call mobile 07812099304.....Chris
This is only a mile away from me so I gave him a ring...
Sadly it turns out I know the owner.
And he is a c****k.
He ripped me off for a couple of thousand quid a few years ago when he "put his business into receivership". He had a string of businesses building and selling PC\'s in the 90\'s which all went t*t\'s up in suspicious circumstances. I remember a creditors meeting where he wore the clothes he usually wore for gardening, parked his Mercedes out of the way around the corner and answered the question "where has all of the money gone" by saying that "management accounting had been lacking"... He opened up a new business with a very similar name a couple of days later ("Trader Systems" became "Trader Mail Order" - with the same telephone number! He even put out a load of full page magazine adverts which appeared the week before the closure, bounced the cheques on the magazines but picked up all of the calls generated into his new business... cute or what....)
On the other hand he had so much money he might well have parked a perfectly good car under a hedge and forgotten about it, so good luck....
John
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Post by: Skifledanabit on March 09, 2011, 07:13:43 PM
I know someone like that... wouldn\'t be called Freddy would he? although he\'s not the kinda guy to have a merc or an FB lol.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on March 09, 2011, 09:26:32 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;747893Hmm wonder if that means TWR front too.... Cant make it out.
Looks to me,it has a fern & bramble front spoiler,not TWR!:evillaugh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on March 09, 2011, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;747934I know someone like that... wouldn\'t be called Freddy would he? although he\'s not the kinda guy to have a merc or an FB lol.
Sorry Skifledanabit.
If you are wondering what has happened to my previous post, I got to wondering what the laws on Libel were and whether the things I said -though true - were wise. So I asked the administrators to remove my post. You just got in and read it before they did it....
As an expanation to you other guys, I have had unfortunate business dealings with the owner of the "FB in a Hedge", and mouthed off a few unwise statements. Apologies.
John
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Post by: syebba on March 10, 2011, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;748018Sorry Skifledanabit.
If you are wondering what has happened to my previous post, I got to wondering what the laws on Libel were and whether the things I said -though true - were wise. So I asked the administrators to remove my post. You just got in and read it before they did it....
As an expanation to you other guys, I have had unfortunate business dealings with the owner of the "FB in a Hedge", and mouthed off a few unwise statements. Apologies.
John
Not unwise,you,ve alerted us to a potential crook if you,ve been fleeced by him before.Now sue me!:evillaugh ta stu..
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Post by: johnnyboy on March 11, 2011, 12:30:09 AM
And the contact in Nantwich is Dan......Telephone 01270 615504.
Not open Sundays.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: vin likes diesel on March 12, 2011, 12:00:09 AM
Hi, i have just bought this to break for the running gear but it is running A521 ATL (http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/1974d76646960719.jpg)
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 12, 2011, 12:04:13 AM
Quote from: A7RXY;748314Well done Cliff that was a very good price for the glass roof
Dibs
An absolute give away for the money and gone to a well deserved home :). Saw the ad and read \'any questions\' (as one does) and the remark \'which sunroof, as both available\' - so my 1st thought was our mate Mr Nock. Had Dave not wanted it I would have purchased myself and sold in the members section of the forum - but the rest is now history.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 12, 2011, 12:09:18 AM
Quote from: David Nock;748317Got details, and..... many thanks Cliff my buddy.....he he.
Everything comes to those who wait - but not always at such a bargain price! Welcome to the "Sunshine Club" :Thumbs-up. Cliff
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 12, 2011, 12:12:18 AM
Quote from: vin likes diesel;748407Hi, i have just bought this to break for the running gear but it is running A521 ATL (http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/1974d76646960719.jpg)
But the body looks too good to break ...... please tell more. Ta Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: vin likes diesel on March 12, 2011, 12:23:19 AM
Quote from: CHC;748412But the body looks too good to break ...... please tell more. Ta Cliff
Hi like i say i dont know anything about these, I was after either a mx-5 or one of these and this turned up first. body wise is is very good , needs the rear of the sills welded but i have looked no further, the car is all complete and unmolested. The old style log book that came with it shows one owner from new. The interior looks complete if only a little damp in smells as i found the sunroof to be a tad open and the tail gate was not shut properly. Engine runs sweet, i did think it was to good to break but thats how i ended up doing another morris oxford as i bought that one for spares for my other one, so i cannot justify any more projects.
I am hoping to take all the running gear and wiring loom, some odds and sods and then sell the items left as it would get more cars on the road. cheers vin
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 12, 2011, 08:10:35 AM
Vin, drop me an email mate I need a gold drivers door if you do break her. Would be cool to have another gold one on the road though.....not many S2\'s left now.
Incidentally if it is just odds and sods you are after then I can put you in touch with a vendor who has stacks and stacks of 1st gen stuff.
Cheers
By the way, it was me you outbid lol.
captainbizzaro at aol dot com
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: vin likes diesel on March 12, 2011, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;748435Vin, drop me an email mate I need a gold drivers door if you do break her. Would be cool to have another gold one on the road though.....not many S2\'s left now.
Incidentally if it is just odds and sods you are after then I can put you in touch with a vendor who has stacks and stacks of 1st gen stuff.
Cheers
By the way, it was me you outbid lol.
captainbizzaro at aol dot com
yeap no problem , it will be a couple of weeks yet , maybe a bit more. I have not checked the inside of the door for rust but the out side looks good
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 12, 2011, 09:44:42 AM
Cool cheers, mine looks great from the outside till you open it and realise it now only weighs about 2 kg. Don\'t slam it lol.
Another good way of talking yourself out of breaking that one is to chuck an MOT on it and drive it-you won\'t look back.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 12, 2011, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: vin likes diesel;748407Hi, i have just bought this to break for the running gear but it is running A521 ATL (http://imagehosting.rodsnsods.co.uk/1974d76646960719.jpg)
Isn\'t it A 521 TYL Vin?...If not shock horror, I\'ve made a mistake.
If it is.....well comm\'on Vin, you\'re not a slow diesel man now - you\'ve got a Rex. Please keep up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 12, 2011, 06:01:05 PM
Quote from: David Nock;748471Isn\'t it A 521 TYL Vin?...If not shock horror, I\'ve made a mistake.
If it is.....well comm\'on Vin, you\'re not a slow diesel man now - you\'ve got a Rex. Please keep up.
Cheers for that Ian - think I\'ll get in touch, you never know what you might need. Cliff
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 13, 2011, 11:08:45 AM
Quote from: Ian65;748571check out this sellers other items... it\'s a classics graveyard
Thanks Ian, Southport car\'s a new one on me.
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Post by: Ian65 on March 13, 2011, 03:00:58 PM
Quote from: CHC;748609Cheers for that Ian - think I\'ll get in touch, you never know what you might need. Cliff
if you do Cliff, could you please ask him how much he wants for the gearbox? ( I don\'t want to pay much more than 50 quid though!)
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 13, 2011, 11:34:16 PM
Quote from: Ian65;748665if you do Cliff, could you please ask him how much he wants for the gearbox? ( I don\'t want to pay much more than 50 quid though!)
Sure will fella.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 15, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
Looks to be a good car,same owner last 18 years,says no visible rust,not much wrong with it
Was chatting to the new owner of SIB last evening - turns out it has found it\'s home about 5 miles away from me - yipee another rex in the Wirral.
We intend meeting up this weekend if poss so I\'ll be finding out to \'what\' and \'how\' the tow bow is connected no doubt. I\'m working on the owner to persuade him to join the forum as a full member.
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Post by: syebba on March 15, 2011, 07:54:42 PM
Another one bites the dust,on classic car section on rx7 site on ebay. Says front wings are new,i presume he means good 2nd hand. Glass sunroof been nabbed. ta stu
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Post by: syebba on March 15, 2011, 07:57:36 PM
Another one bites the dust,on classic car section on rx7 site on ebay. Says front wings are new,i presume he means good 2nd hand. Glass sunroof been nabbed. ta stu
Yeah I\'m chatting with them re the wings but they want me to name a ridicous price otherwise they go on eBay - have a guess what I said? Ask Mr Nock who owns the glass roof :rollin:rollin
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 16, 2011, 09:20:20 AM
A G8 clear & crisp picture,should do well:evillaugh Maybe TWR rear spoiler,looks like the one on keiths car. Owner says wheels are in G8 condition as can be seen in the pic:xconfused
New owner got it for £ 200 - anybody from the forum?
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Post by: Ian65 on March 16, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
Quote from: CHC;749208Yeah I\'m chatting with them re the wings but they want me to name a ridicous price otherwise they go on eBay - have a guess what I said?
I\'d like to know where these dreamers get the idea that they\'re sitting on something valuable.... let him stick it on ebay and see what it makes.... the last front wings I saw on ebay made 10 quid!
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 16, 2011, 12:52:54 PM
Quote from: Ian65;749236I\'d like to know where these dreamers get the idea that they\'re sitting on something valuable.... let him stick it on ebay and see what it makes.... the last front wings I saw on ebay made 10 quid!
The trouble is, it\'s becoming more common with the scrap/salvage yards. There is another in Southport and after discussions this morning I\'m convinced he thinks he\'s going to make his retirement fund from it. Everything I mentioned was met with "I want as much as I can get for it" rather than give us £10 or £30 for that - makes me reluctant to deal with such people.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 16, 2011, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: CHC;749208Yeah I\'m chatting with them re the wings but they want me to name a ridicous price otherwise they go on eBay - have a guess what I said? Ask Mr Nock who owns the glass roof :rollin:rollin
Ermmm, ???? Oh. it\'s me. The roof\'s in Cheshire at the moment. Same friends who had my new S3 wheels cluttering their stockbroker belt house up if you remember.
They\'ll be loving \'Uncle Nockie\' all over again.....whisper whisper (Sue to Sam) ..."why do we keep getting all his junkyard bits here?".
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 16, 2011, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: David Nock;749252Ermmm, ???? Oh. it\'s me. The roof\'s in Cheshire at the moment. Same friends who had my new S3 wheels cluttering their stockbroker belt house up if you remember.
They\'ll be loving \'Uncle Nockie\' all over again.....whisper whisper (Sue to Sam) ..."why do we keep getting all his junkyard bits here?".
Might be junk to Sue & Sam but it\'s gold to us guys - this is why we have firends.
Incidentally, are they kind enough to clean & polish the glass too? :rollin:rollin
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 16, 2011, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: CHC;749257Might be junk to Sue & Sam but it\'s gold to us guys - this is why we have firends.
Incidentally, are they kind enough to clean & polish the glass too? :rollin:rollin
Well apparently it is a bit dusty and dirty. They said it was staying in the garage when I asked them to put it behind the settee in the front room for security.......:Nono!
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Post by: Ian65 on March 16, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
anyone feeling brave?
another ebay offering from RX Motors....150 quid start......... hope someone saves this one.
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Post by: A7RXY on March 16, 2011, 08:43:53 PM
Thanks Ian, I would love a ser 1 again, but auto ?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 16, 2011, 08:44:24 PM
All joking aside-that needs to be saved.
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Post by: A7RXY on March 16, 2011, 08:48:46 PM
It must have been an import from Japan. Far to for gone for me thou.
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Post by: Ian65 on March 16, 2011, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;749343It must have been an import from Japan. Far to for gone for me thou.
1st registered in the uk 1990.... off the road since 2003...
------------------------------------------------------------------ The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for FYP 860V are:
Date of Liability 01 03 2003 Date of First Registration 17 08 1990 Year of Manufacture 1980 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2200CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour GREEN Vehicle Type Approval
this needs serious love and affection... fair play to anyone who takes this on.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on March 16, 2011, 08:58:36 PM
Or Australia/NZ-might explain the AC.
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Post by: A7RXY on March 16, 2011, 09:02:24 PM
I think the Savanna badge gives it away as I\'m sure they were only called that in Japan and pos the USA
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Post by: TRIND-FD on March 16, 2011, 09:18:58 PM
Imported from Saudi, not sure if it was new there or imported from japan to Saudi.
Keith
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 17, 2011, 01:16:05 PM
I\'ve had this car in my \'Probably Scrap\' file for a long time. It was last seen for sale in the Rotary Ravings magazine in Lavenham, Suffolk in 1999. Would that be Forces Personnel? Hence the import status. Then with it being unlicensed for so long I\'d assumed it was a gonna.
Then Tim said a year back he\'d got this strange colour Green S1 coming in so I entered it as another car.
Matter all resolved....they\'re one and the same car.
Trouble is, I\'ve now lifted it into the SORN/Project category but I don\'t really see it staying there. Oh.Oh....
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 17, 2011, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: TRIND-FD;749351Imported from Saudi, not sure if it was new there or imported from japan to Saudi.
Keith
Any info Keith?
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Post by: Steve-A on March 17, 2011, 01:45:11 PM
Nice colour though :) Fingers crossed that someone wants a serious project!
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Post by: Ian65 on March 17, 2011, 06:44:47 PM
any 1st geners interested in this?
Quote from: dstiles999;7494221984 Original Elford Turbo I am likley to be selling my 1984 Elford Turbo this year. The car is metallic blue, has the original fibreglass spoilers (front and rear), side skirts, Janspeed exhaust, moon roof, metal elford turbo badge and even the little elford sticker in the rear windscreen. The engine has at some stage been replaced and is running a japanese engine (this will take injectors but I never got round to doing it). The car has just been MOTed and taxed and is in good condition. There is the signs of some rust on the drivers door but this is early stages and simply needs taking down and respraying. Currently needs a tidy up on one of the side skirts (a tow job flaked some paint and this has been quickly sprayed in but has the paint edges that need some TLC). Car is in the garage for a bit of engine work but will be back with me soon so will be able to do some pictures. Bought the car from Tim White many years ago (about 20 I think) but as just moved to house without a garage it will have to go, previoulsy always garaged. Car is in Gloucester and also could be seen in Swindon area. If anyone might be interested please let me know before it goes on general sale in a few weeks time, the car is a rare "original" car in excellent condition.
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Post by: Ian65 on March 17, 2011, 06:54:34 PM
or how about a 1 owner \'D\' reg 1st gen for 800 quid?
Does look in seroius need of help but still salvageable I think - like the idea of the auto box too, no more dreaded master and slave cylinder issues. Colours are a little bizarre though. Isn\'t it about time the RPM started dabbling as this just has to be saved - after all single figures for the SA now.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 17, 2011, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: Ian65;749548or how about a 1 owner \'D\' reg 1st gen for 800 quid?
Or perhaps this for the RPM? - seems quite tidy and some TLC followed by just service items?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on March 18, 2011, 12:19:51 AM
^^^ That one looks pretty good, but the RPM are currently seriously pursuing the possible purchase of the late John Odd\'s FB. Should that purchase fall through for any reason then this one would be of interest :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on March 18, 2011, 12:33:41 AM
Looks to be a good buy for £800. Not quite as immaculate as owner states,bit of rust both sides around lower points on front wings.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on March 18, 2011, 12:35:02 AM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;749668The SA will pull through, I feel it in me bones.
Haha,i don\'t feel that. I do feel it\'ll be very dead soon!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 18, 2011, 12:06:31 PM
Me too, sadly...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on March 18, 2011, 08:03:02 PM
Snap out of it, we gotta remain optimistic.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 19, 2011, 01:16:43 PM
Yes Captain, you\'re right.
I\'ve joined the campaign now......\'Mushy Pea Mustn\'t Get Squashed\'.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 19, 2011, 05:13:45 PM
Green series 1 from RX motors is now reading "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available" wonder why Tim stopped it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 19, 2011, 05:46:56 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;750046Green series 1 from RX motors is now reading "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available" wonder why Tim stopped it.
Strange now relisted ..................http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-RX7-series-1-1980-/220756414526?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item33661b903e
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: TRIND-FD on March 19, 2011, 06:00:52 PM
Tim moved it from parts to car section. He had to close it as it wouldn\'t let him change the category .
Keith
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 19, 2011, 06:07:06 PM
Thanks Keith, now maybe more people can view it, with a bit of luck it could be saved.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: TRIND-FD on March 19, 2011, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;750063Thanks Keith, now maybe more people can view it, with a bit of luck it could be saved.
Fingers crossed, it\'s worth restoring IMO , should have some interesting history if it can be found .
Keith
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 20, 2011, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: Ian65;737829Anyone fancy a cheap restoration project?
C510 BUU series 3 in blue for £400.... West Midlands...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 21, 2011, 12:42:17 PM
I don\'t think the breaking car in Wiltshire is the Red one in the pic PIJ.
Tyson sold that the other week for a remarkable price.
This auction is for the S3 parts he\'s been advertising recently.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 21, 2011, 01:42:10 PM
Quote from: David Nock;750479I don\'t think the breaking car in Wiltshire is the Red one in the pic PIJ.
Tyson sold that the other week for a remarkable price.
This auction is for the S3 parts he\'s been advertising recently.
that\'s a strange one.... I thought I was going mad! Yesterday it was definitely the photo of the ex midlands blue series3... today the same listing but a different car in the photo? Checked the revisions on the auction and he\'s changed the photo! So who knows what he\'s breaking.....?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 21, 2011, 04:34:13 PM
Quote from: Ian65;750252this car now being broken for spares in Wiltshire.... pity it\'s not still in the Midlands, I\'d have had the gearbox out of it....
This was for sale a few back and I\'m sure it sold - if it is being scrapped/broken up, it must be fairly serious but in saying that it does look pretty good (from a distance anyway - we all know what can lurk underneath).
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 21, 2011, 04:38:46 PM
and although he says he\'s breaking a series 3, he\'s changed the photo for a series 2?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 21, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
Quote from: Ian65;750252this car now being broken for spares in Wiltshire.... pity it\'s not still in the Midlands, I\'d have had the gearbox out of it....
This car was advertised the other week on eBay and the po wanted quite a high price for it but nobody bid. I sent him a message to explain why it wouldn\'t fetch the asking price (front windscreen was also cracked so I explained the possible reasons for this to happen) so it would appear that he has decided to break/scrap instead. It is also the car that I was hinting about as running gear instead of breaking the gold rex which turned up in essex the other week.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 22, 2011, 12:29:22 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: myatt1972 on March 22, 2011, 02:17:55 PM
No mot no tax and a non-runner for £875, some nice parts but you probably couldnt fit them to your rhd car. Half that price seems closer to the mark. By the way dont google BBW to find out more about the conversion :Nono!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 22, 2011, 02:51:27 PM
Quote from: myatt1972;750827No mot no tax and a non-runner for £875, some nice parts but you probably couldnt fit them to your rhd car. Half that price seems closer to the mark. By the way dont google BBW to find out more about the conversion :Nono!
I agree... when you think that the red elford RXmotors sold a couple of weeks back only made £560 ish and that\'s now got an mot.... I know which I\'d rather have.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 23, 2011, 12:37:25 PM
New to Pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2536564.htm
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 23, 2011, 12:40:54 PM
Ta Dibs, Been on recently. Nicely presented this time
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on March 23, 2011, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;751096New to Pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2536564.htm
mmm... I want it, so badly
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on March 23, 2011, 06:04:05 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;751096New to Pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2536564.htm
Been on for over 6 months,keep renewing the add,it\'s the x reg with red pinstripe interior,been tidied up over that time,work on rear arches etc.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on March 23, 2011, 09:14:59 PM
Quote from: syebba;751182Been on for over 6 months,keep renewing the add,it\'s the x reg with red pinstripe interior,been tidied up over that time,work on rear arches etc.
I\'m not convinced about this one, I\'ve just gotta hunch it\'s hiding a lot of something beginning in f and ending in iller. If it still looks like this in a years time then I take it back.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 25, 2011, 05:42:36 PM
I hope so because the other bidder looked to be a breaker as his bid record was for many makes of cars.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 25, 2011, 07:15:21 PM
It\'s a shame but I think this car will end up being broken... it needs a hell of a lot of work and would have to be a labour of love really. I really hope I\'m wrong and it gets restored. It\'s a shame Cliff is already committed to his projects... it would have been great to see this car go to him and get the love and affection it deserves.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: vin likes diesel on March 25, 2011, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;751582I\'ve got a feeling vin likes diesel bought this
I hope so because the other bidder looked to be a breaker as his bid record was for many makes of cars.
Afraid not, I only have the one .
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 25, 2011, 08:26:50 PM
Quote from: vin likes diesel;751629Afraid not, I only have the one .
Sorry to here that Vin, there I go putting 2 plus 2 and comming up with 5, it was just that the bidder that won was also bidding for a Morris item.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: vin likes diesel on March 25, 2011, 08:47:05 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;751637Sorry to here that Vin, there I go putting 2 plus 2 and comming up with 5, it was just that the bidder that won was also bidding for a Morris item.
No problem, already got to many projects on the go, if the new buy needs a good shell i will have one .
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 25, 2011, 10:50:29 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Brett on March 25, 2011, 10:58:18 PM
How wrong have they got the rubber on that!?!?!!?!?!?!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on March 25, 2011, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: Ian65;751663relisted... no reserve
I like the way they say daily driver must have had it all of 3 weeks .....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 25, 2011, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: Ian65;751618It\'s a shame but I think this car will end up being broken... it needs a hell of a lot of work and would have to be a labour of love really. I really hope I\'m wrong and it gets restored. It\'s a shame Cliff is already committed to his projects... it would have been great to see this car go to him and get the love and affection it deserves.
Not me either guys - definitely would be a labour of love and despite the external \'green\' I think I would have really enjoyed re-building this one but alas it wasn\'t to be. Even so no more purchases for me until RAZ is done and I\'ll probably sell this one on when finished.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 25, 2011, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;751669I like the way they say daily driver must have had it all of 3 weeks .....
The sellers name doesn\'t give me much confidence in buying from them either - \'idealincars\' - perhaps \'the gringo\' has made a come back and decided to sell it on for a profit? :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 28, 2011, 12:37:30 AM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 29, 2011, 05:39:38 PM
HBE was Ex Lincoln a couple of years back but rusty. Then to Wakefield where Jim offered it for anyone collecting. Now in Wiltshire as above.
Moved from my \'Probably Breaking\' File to \'Definate Breaking\'.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on March 29, 2011, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: David Nock;752454HBE was Ex Lincoln a couple of years back but rusty. Then to Wakefield where Jim offered it for anyone collecting. Now in Wiltshire as above.
Moved from my \'Probably Breaking\' File to \'Definate Breaking\'.
yeah, I remember it well but it\'s not wearing it\'s bodykit anymore...
I could be wrong but I think this is an SA import - mirrors on the wings, the 1" wide side strips and possibly no sunroof. My old savanah was an X plated import so just got this feeling ....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 01, 2011, 01:14:56 PM
Think you might be right Cliff. Wheels are not UK S2.
Plus DVLA gives date of manufacture as 1981, but it\'s UK registered 1982.
So brought in very young then?
Also LW is London.....the logical place for an Import to go to?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 01, 2011, 01:27:42 PM
The \'Hedge Dweller\' originally ended on 16th March with a sale price of £200. So why is it re-listed? I note that "a set of keys have been acquired from MAXDA" and the current advert also says "The doors are still however not yet opening" - hgh? If the keys are not from MAZDA that would explain why they don\'t open he.he.he Why? I wonder if the door seals have perished and together with tree sap have stuck fast? Why not get in through the rear hatch - easiest way to my thinking? Is this why it has been re-listed?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: shaunwil on April 12, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
If its like mine I don\'t have a lock on the rear hatch. Its a solenoid opener without a key !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 12, 2011, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: Ian65;731766Anyone fancy a winter project? These 1st gens have just been listed for sale…
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on April 13, 2011, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: shaunwil;755598If its like mine I don\'t have a lock on the rear hatch. Its a solenoid opener without a key !
Shaun
Looking at the pic Shaun I\'d say there is a lock fitted BUT doesn\'t say it\'s gonna work I suppose.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on April 13, 2011, 10:36:38 AM
Quote from: Ian65;755644C689 OBL now sold according to their website
.
OBL looks as if it could be a good buy for someone. GTB - didn\'t that sell for about £150 - £200? A true SA spoiled in my opinion with S2/S3 bumpers and rear spoiler but still got original alloys - could always fill the body holes in and change bumpers though? WWB Elford could use it\'s bumpers and spoiler changing so she stands out as a true Elford. As for the RED re-storation - think I\'ve just bought its\' nose cone :rollin If you look at the back of the red re-storation photo, isn\'t that a black SA to the left and possibly a blue rx4 to the right?
In all it looks a right Ali Baba\'s Cave here!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: B.Martin on April 13, 2011, 10:44:39 AM
Off topic, but I drive past a blue fb most days in Limassol. It\'s for sale but I don\'t know how much or what condition the engine is it, also someone has clearly backed into the rear corner in a car park. Shame other than that looks a sound motor.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on April 13, 2011, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: BenRX;755731Off topic, but I drive past a blue fb most days in Limassol. It\'s for sale but I don\'t know how much or what condition the engine is it, also someone has clearly backed into the rear corner in a car park. Shame other than that looks a sound motor.
Hi Ben & welcome :wave, any chance of more details and possibly pics - I know as a guest you can\'t post pics but if you get some plse send to cliff dot c at virgin dot net then I can post them here! Be appreciated. Ta Cliff :Thumbs-up
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 13, 2011, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: CHC;755729OBL looks as if it could be a good buy for someone. GTB - didn\'t that sell for about £150 - £200? A true SA spoiled in my opinion with S2/S3 bumpers and rear spoiler but still got original alloys - could always fill the body holes in and change bumpers though? WWB Elford could use it\'s bumpers and spoiler changing so she stands out as a true Elford. As for the RED re-storation - think I\'ve just bought its\' nose cone :rollin If you look at the back of the red re-storation photo, isn\'t that a black SA to the left and possibly a blue rx4 to the right?
In all it looks a right Ali Baba\'s Cave here!
And OBL has an export flag appeared against it on DVLA so may be gone by now......
I wish I knew a way to distinguish between exports to other parts of the British Isles (which I maintain on register) and overseas, (where I just note cars as \'exported\')
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 13, 2011, 05:39:13 PM
Quote from: BenRX;755731Off topic, but I drive past a blue fb most days in Limassol. It\'s for sale but I don\'t know how much or what condition the engine is it, also someone has clearly backed into the rear corner in a car park. Shame other than that looks a sound motor.
be interesting to have a look Ben. Thanks for the trouble. Might be an export from here as a lot of Retiring Brits took their cars out there. My friends in Paphos did that with a Honda coupe they had.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 13, 2011, 05:43:37 PM
Quote from: David Nock;754402On ebay today.....Red Auto .....(Import)? Says maybe only 42,000?
A very nice & unique TWR with low miles and always garaged - wow and let\'s be honest, the asking price really isn\'t that bad. If I were in the market place I would be more than interested. Ta Stu. Cliff :cool
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 14, 2011, 05:19:04 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 18, 2011, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: CHC;756617Here\'s one back on eBay again - Bradford (West Yorkshire) think it was on originally September.....ish last year, with a few less parts now too!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on April 20, 2011, 07:45:38 AM
Quote from: BenRX;756954As requested. The 1st gen in Limassol that needs rescuing! (sorry about the quality but I had to do drive by photo using an iPhone!)
Hi Ben, many thanks for the pic mate. Can you tell us more details of it condition & price etc? It doesn\'t appear to be that bad from a distance. Is it a \'left hooker\' by chance and what sort of miles has it done. Ta Cliff :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: B.Martin on April 20, 2011, 10:45:17 AM
I have no idea on mileage or price, the sale sign in window only has a phone Number, it\'s right hand drive as we drive on left in Cyprus. Car seems in good condition but there is damage to rear offside light cluster and surrounding bodywork. I obviously also have no idea about thee engine Condition. Sorry I can\'t be anymore helpful!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on April 20, 2011, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: BenRX;757062I have no idea on mileage or price, the sale sign in window only has a phone Number, it\'s right hand drive as we drive on left in Cyprus. Car seems in good condition but there is damage to rear offside light cluster and surrounding bodywork. I obviously also have no idea about thee engine Condition. Sorry I can\'t be anymore helpful!
No worries Ben - just nice to get more information on these cars as there aren\'t really that many remaining in the UK so one day (hopefully not too soon) we might have to consider importing from Europe. As for which side the steering wheel is, I just thought as it is closer to Europe it might have been driven across from say Italy.
Ta Cliff :)
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Post by: Skifledanabit on April 20, 2011, 03:34:46 PM
Well, like was stated earlier, a lot of expats out there and they couldn\'t leave their cars behind lol
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: B.Martin on April 20, 2011, 03:50:31 PM
I\'ve found s lot of cars from are either from uk or directly from Japan as Limassol is a large port and deep enough for container ships. The 323 I am looking at is direct from Japan, but the fd I was looking at was uk import. The insurance companies over here charge a large premium for lhd I think, so people avoid them. I think the only lhds over here will be classic cars (that you don\'t get in rhd) like mustangs, corvettes and the sort. Glad to be of assistance.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 20, 2011, 05:48:56 PM
Thanks Ben...maybe more info about this car will surface some time. Meantime we\'ll remember it\'s there.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2011, 11:36:39 AM
Red Auto Back On Ebay.....Cambs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2011, 11:40:18 AM
This Car was for sale in Bristol, now seems to be in Wiltshire on Car and Classic, Quite a bit of a price increase too.... Cough, Cough Emoticon required.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C222446
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2011, 11:43:12 AM
And a Gold S2 in Lancs, again Car and Classics
off the road for a lot of years but £1195......repeat the cough, cough emoticon.
Maybe prices are rising??
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C221966
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Post by: A7RXY on April 22, 2011, 12:12:40 PM
Right now back to the real world ............... away from Cuckooland ........ :evillaugh
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: mpk490p on April 22, 2011, 01:03:31 PM
Quote from: David Nock;757410This Car was for sale in Bristol, now seems to be in Wiltshire on Car and Classic, Quite a bit of a price increase too.... Cough, Cough Emoticon required.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C222446
it has the later S3 centre consul and switch plate for the windows? us spec rear too
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Post by: Ian65 on April 22, 2011, 02:16:40 PM
when was the last time a 1st gen of any description made £3500? I hope he\'s not stuck for storage space....
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2011, 05:20:48 PM
Quote from: mpk490p;757423it has the later S3 centre consul and switch plate for the windows? us spec rear too
????? Mark.....looks just like a Renaissance Red S2 we used to own.....but \'twas a long long time ago.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 22, 2011, 06:01:35 PM
This must have sold OK. Then moved up country and put on £1000..... Is that 2 monkeys? or a pony and a half a trap? (You Essex guys Dibs :rollin)
Now on ebay ref 180657549177 with a better write up for the money.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: A7RXY on April 23, 2011, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: David Nock;757630This must have sold OK. Then moved up country and put on £1000..... Is that 2 monkeys? or a pony and a half a trap? (You Essex guys Dibs :rollin)
Now on ebay ref 180657549177 with a better write up for the money.
No its you northern peeps trying to make a profit out of us poor southern peeps ..................:D
Anyway its a "bag of sand"
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 24, 2011, 06:31:03 PM
Quote from: David Nock;757410This Car was for sale in Bristol, now seems to be in Wiltshire on Car and Classic, Quite a bit of a price increase too.... Cough, Cough Emoticon required.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C222446
now on ebay for £1495 !! no reserve!
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Post by: shaunwil on April 24, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
Are people demanding more cash now ??
Shaun
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Post by: Ian65 on April 24, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;757843Are people demanding more cash now ??
Shaun
only people who think they will make a killing on them without doing any research on current prices first... That s2 Elford I posted on here a month back is still sticking... there was loads of interest in it and as a result the price went up and everyone bailed out so it\'s still for sale now. 1st gen prices have never been so low...
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Post by: borgue on April 25, 2011, 08:25:52 AM
Hello, can you allocate C496 BUU (White Jan 1986) to me please. was found in Swaffham Norfolk. Dry stored and sorn for last 8 years. Will be using the undamaged engine and bits from A220 PBW to restore.
+1 back on road!
Ollie.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 25, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
Nice find mate, get some pictures up.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 25, 2011, 11:35:49 AM
Quote from: shaunwil;757843Are people demanding more cash now ??
Shaun
Maybe Shaun; looks that way doesn\'t it?....but I think when the sun goes in they\'ll realise their car\'s still outside and still for sale?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 25, 2011, 11:39:55 AM
Quote from: borgue;757936Hello, can you allocate C496 BUU (White Jan 1986) to me please. was found in Swaffham Norfolk. Dry stored and sorn for last 8 years. Will be using the undamaged engine and bits from A220 PBW to restore.
+1 back on road!
Ollie.
Many thanks Ollie...will do. Very pleased to hear.
There\'s a Reg cluster appearing around the BUU\'s now, that\'s 3 x 1st Gens within 25 number plates. It was a Central London Reg.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 25, 2011, 05:50:17 PM
Black S3 just come on ebay in Herts. The pricing is back to realistic methinks @ £550 Buy it Now.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on April 25, 2011, 06:23:51 PM
No MOT or V5 though Dave-unknown quantity of faffing about required!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 25, 2011, 06:42:14 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;758021No MOT or V5 though Dave-unknown quantity of faffing about required!
I agree.... £350 - £400 I reckon..... If it\'s been off the road for 8 years it\'ll need more than the handbrake adjusting... and a quality respray doesn\'t come cheap.... Some lads have been buying mot\'d cars for £550 ish recently A good project but a bit steep at that money
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Post by: syebba on April 25, 2011, 08:36:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;758015Black S3 just come on ebay in Herts. The pricing is back to realistic methinks @ £550 Buy it Now.
From Page 6 of this post in April 2009. The ebay link is long gone but note the Reg.
You\'re right of course guys; it is OTT at £550. I\'ve become so used to prices over a grand in the last couple of weeks I must\'ve lost touch with reality.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 25, 2011, 08:57:43 PM
It\'s easy to underestimate the amount of work needed to recommission a car that\'s been off the road for a long time.... some people get lucky but most end up spending a lot of time and money replacing parts. Even Dibs car, which is probably one of the nicest and well looked after 1st gens in the country needed plenty of coaxing out of it\'s hibernation... but get one of these ropey things off ebay and you might as well view it as a restoration project.
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Post by: A7RXY on April 25, 2011, 09:07:32 PM
Well said that man .............. even I was amazed how much had to be done. Dibs
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Post by: Ian65 on April 26, 2011, 06:33:56 AM
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Post by: Steve-A on April 26, 2011, 09:44:28 AM
Quote from: Ian65;758079It\'s easy to underestimate the amount of work needed to recommission a car that\'s been off the road for a long time.... some people get lucky but most end up spending a lot of time and money replacing parts. Even Dibs car, which is probably one of the nicest and well looked after 1st gens in the country needed plenty of coaxing out of it\'s hibernation... but get one of these ropey things off ebay and you might as well view it as a restoration project.
Too true. When I went to see Rexanne for the first time it looked like she just needed a couple of bushes, some brake lines and a couple of small patches of rust.
And we all know how much rust I\'ve found! :3gears-lh
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 26, 2011, 12:39:30 PM
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Post by: syebba on April 27, 2011, 07:00:31 PM
above post should read 1 bid so far,i havent bid
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Post by: A7RXY on April 27, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
But are you going to bid ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on April 30, 2011, 12:36:36 PM
Dave, do you have anything on C881 BFK..... a white series 3? A really nice couple of guys, John and his son Dean came to collect some parts from me today and they own this car..... I think they said it came from Maidstone and has Richard Knight dealership markings on the numberplate. It\'s now in the Staffs area.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 30, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
No, didn\'t know it, thanks Ian, all entered up though now. FK was a Dudley Reg originally, so a Black Country car? Could have been on a private plate in the South East though. Then Re-Reg in Dudley when it moved up?
Did you recommend John and Dean to join the gang?
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Post by: Ian65 on May 01, 2011, 07:03:18 PM
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sold on ebay for £1900.... a bit different to his original £3495.00 asking price....
Sold for £800 a few weeks ago,sold tonight for £2550. £1750 profit in a couple of weeks,nice work if you can get it!
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Post by: syebba on May 03, 2011, 03:58:08 PM
(http://rx7fb.com/dir/download/file.php?id=12)
Dave may of got this wrong. Is this pic from the silver fb that sold for over £2.5k last night???? ta stu..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 03, 2011, 04:42:52 PM
Nice Firestone Tyres. Mmmm......
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Post by: captainbizzaro on May 05, 2011, 10:57:36 PM
NEV is now taxed for the summer. (http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/captainbizzaro/8b7f614b.jpg)
PS....Stu-no those wheels aren\'t THE wheels....;)
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Post by: syebba on May 05, 2011, 11:59:23 PM
Well done Tim,you got Nev back together quickly. Let us know how it drives with the turbo & mod\'s you\'ve done.
What wheels,hehe!
ta ra..
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Post by: mooragerx7 on May 06, 2011, 05:55:21 AM
Quote from: borgue;757936Hello, can you allocate C496 BUU (White Jan 1986) to me please. was found in Swaffham Norfolk. Dry stored and sorn for last 8 years. Will be using the undamaged engine and bits from A220 PBW to restore.
+1 back on road!
Ollie.
thats not too far from me so thats 2 near me now :chat
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Post by: captainbizzaro on May 06, 2011, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: syebba;760438Well done Tim,you got Nev back together quickly. Let us know how it drives with the turbo & mod\'s you\'ve done.
What wheels,hehe!
ta ra..
Cheers Stu, still in shakedown stage at the moment but had one quick blast on 0.5bar of boost when we were out putting a safe map on it and it felt very quick-I think it\'s gonna be a handful.:bandit
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 06, 2011, 11:18:46 AM
Good old Nev. He\'ll be a right young buck amongst the old lady 1st gens now!
Back on the Roadrunners board now Tim. That\'s 23 Series 2\'s (roadgoing or rally).
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on May 06, 2011, 11:37:38 AM
EXCELLENT NEWS TIM !!!!!! :Party Well done - now you\'ll need a mate for NEV ...hehehe Cliff
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on May 06, 2011, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;760488Cheers Stu, still in shakedown stage at the moment but had one quick blast on 0.5bar of boost when we were out putting a safe map on it and it felt very quick-I think it\'s gonna be a handful.:bandit
Sounds like it\'s gonna be fun.
What sort of boost do you think you\'ll be able to run in future? When it\'s set up,rolling road! ta stu..
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: syebba on May 07, 2011, 03:36:19 PM
Ian your site appears to be down. ta stu...
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Post by: Ian65 on May 07, 2011, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: syebba;760828Ian your site appears to be down. ta stu...
Stu, click on the link in my signature and it\'ll take you there.... you can get in through the front page of the site by clicking the blue banner... you\'ll have to bookmark it again as the bookmarks have changed... all is explained on the site... check out the video on the front page ( pump up your volume up 1st!)
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Post by: syebba on May 07, 2011, 04:27:06 PM
okey doke,kept coming up as not found,will try that. ta stu..
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Post by: syebba on May 07, 2011, 04:29:30 PM
Haha done,your site just gets more & more flash! That group B rally vid is the best one ta stu..
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Post by: daverey on May 07, 2011, 10:33:18 PM
David couple of series 1\'s about to be scrapped, not sure if they are already known. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mk1-Mazda-RX-7-ALL-SPARES-AVAILABLE-/160585126422?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item25639e9216
Dave.
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Post by: Steve-A on May 07, 2011, 10:36:48 PM
A very sad sight the two of them on that flat bed off to the breakers :(
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Post by: TRIND-FD on May 07, 2011, 11:09:04 PM
Green one looks like the one Tim had on eBay :(
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Post by: syebba on May 07, 2011, 11:47:18 PM
The mushy pea is gonna get squashed.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on May 08, 2011, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: CHC;760497EXCELLENT NEWS TIM !!!!!! :Party Well done - now you\'ll need a mate for NEV ...hehehe Cliff
Cheers Cliff-a mate is definately on the cards down the line.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: captainbizzaro on May 08, 2011, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: syebba;760546Sounds like it\'s gonna be fun.
What sort of boost do you think you\'ll be able to run in future? When it\'s set up,rolling road! ta stu..
Not sure yet stu-probably stay at a safe 0.5-0.7 bar on this engine for the time being as its of unproven condition. It\'ll go on the rollers though to see how it\'s doing so I\'ve got a base power to build from. Not mega bothered anyway-it now weighs next to nothing now!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: jakeyd07 on May 08, 2011, 03:18:33 PM
white rx-7 1985 series 1 mark 3. reg no. C874 LCN. mid restoration but runns and will be on the road this summer, was last run 2 years ago!
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Post by: A7RXY on May 08, 2011, 07:20:53 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 08, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: daverey;760896David couple of series 1\'s about to be scrapped, not sure if they are already known. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mk1-Mazda-RX-7-ALL-SPARES-AVAILABLE-/160585126422?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item25639e9216
Dave.
Thanks Dave. It does look as if Mushy Pea is the Front One.....Can tell by wing mirrors not door mounted mirrors? I\'ll try for the Reg Nos to confirm it.
David
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 08, 2011, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: jakeyd07;761007white rx-7 1985 series 1 mark 3. reg no. C874 LCN. mid restoration but runns and will be on the road this summer, was last run 2 years ago!
Thanks Jake, Noted and many thanks. I\'ve replied on your main thread.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 08, 2011, 09:44:13 PM
Last noted in Herts 2007. In a classic car dealers then. (with V8 engine).
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 08, 2011, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: David Nock;761115Thanks Dave. It does look as if Mushy Pea is the Front One.....Can tell by wing mirrors not door mounted mirrors? I\'ll try for the Reg Nos to confirm it.
David
And 1 car on the Transporter is an Auto.......It is Mushy!.........:(
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Post by: Ian65 on May 08, 2011, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: David Nock;761115Thanks Dave. It does look as if Mushy Pea is the Front One.....Can tell by wing mirrors not door mounted mirrors? I\'ll try for the Reg Nos to confirm it.
David
it is the same car Dave, check out the sellers feedback and you\'ll see where he bought it off RX Motors
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on May 09, 2011, 09:43:33 AM
An SA Japanese import is MUSHY - shame cause I liked it.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 09, 2011, 11:22:42 AM
Quote from: Ian65;761137it is the same car Dave, check out the sellers feedback and you\'ll see where he bought it off RX Motors
Yeh, thanks, obvious place to look but I forgot.
Anyway I\'ve emailed for the Silver Car reg.....lets hope I\'m lucky.
Cliff....It was a special looking car Mushy Pea.... But you could see it was to far gone on Tim Whites original pics. Unless you were completely crackers.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on May 09, 2011, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: David Nock;761233Yeh, thanks, obvious place to look but I forgot.
Anyway I\'ve emailed for the Silver Car reg.....lets hope I\'m lucky.
Cliff....It was a special looking car Mushy Pea.... But you could see it was to far gone on Tim Whites original pics. Unless you were completely crackers.
but if I\'d had the space and time for it ???????? oh what might have been ???????
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 15, 2011, 05:01:06 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 16, 2011, 11:10:43 AM
Not so sure Skif; Don\'t mean to cut across you but there are three or four mint FB\'s in the 1st Gen Section which couldn\'t be bought for a Grand more. Dave Collins\'s, Stu\'s, Keith\'s, Dibs, Ours.....Any More? (please don\'t let me balls this up with complaints about forgetting people!).....Admittedly miles are less in these cases.
Don\'t know about Keith and Dibs but the other three wouldn\'t be put on the market at the present time and none would be sold for less than high £3k, maybe £4k plus for Stu\'s.
I suspect that £2750 ono means £2500 deal and it does look good. The under- bonnet shot says \'class\' and \'cared for\' to me.
So proof would be in the pudding but if I were looking I\'d be after muchos photos of that Red Devil from the seller.
There is a red S3 on my Register in Norwich......Kev, is that you?
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Post by: Scott251 on May 16, 2011, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: David Nock;761115Thanks Dave. It does look as if Mushy Pea is the Front One.....Can tell by wing mirrors not door mounted mirrors? I\'ll try for the Reg Nos to confirm it.
David
Hi There Thought I should comment! Mushy Pea would have been a nice project but afraid it was just too far gone! I have had a lot of interest in the spares so at least they haven\'t gone straight in the crusher!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 17, 2011, 12:02:58 PM
Hi Scott, Greetings mate.
Yeh you have to know when to call it a day with cars. I think Mushy passed that day some time back.
Thanks for looking in. Stay around if you\'ve plans for the Silver wizzbomb....plenty of free help and advice on here.
Dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 17, 2011, 06:02:21 PM
Another Red S3 0n ebay.....bit of work needed here though. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160589540296&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1156
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 17, 2011, 10:49:43 PM
Just popped up on Pistonheads.....better pics this time.
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Post by: A7RXY on May 18, 2011, 05:51:35 AM
Even with better pictures ............ :flamed.................:flamed
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Post by: Steve-A on May 18, 2011, 10:10:41 AM
Its odd that people get it so wrong at times. The cars obviously had lots of time and effort spent on it, but to me it just doesn\'t look right.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 18, 2011, 11:35:40 AM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;762695It\'d better be mint for that price :O
Been thinking for days about a value for that Red Devil.
I\'ve now started thinking Skif\'s got a point.....At just shy of 90,000 miles, £2500 might still be high, even though it ticked all the boxes for me.
We\'ll see in a bit....
Dave
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Post by: Ian65 on May 18, 2011, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: David Nock;763319Been thinking for days about a value for that Red Devil.
I\'ve now started thinking Skif\'s got a point.....At just shy of 90,000 miles, £2500 might still be high, even though it ticked all the boxes for me.
We\'ll see in a bit....
Dave
on cars this old, milage doesn\'t really mean anything... it\'s all about condition. There are plenty of cars being broken for spares with lower than average milage but they\'ve still rotted the same. There aren\'t really enough cars left or for sale to pick a low miler over a higher miler.... Much better to buy a well maintained car with with higher miles that\'s had everything done to it than a low mile example with perished rubbers and rusty bodywork. I wouldn\'t pay a penny more for a low milage car unless it\'s overall condition justified it.
It\'s hard to assess a car from a picture...digital photos are the car sellers dream.... they make even the tattiest dog look nice ( apart from that orange monstrosity that Dibs likes!)
.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 19, 2011, 10:57:00 AM
Might have dibs on it already but this was on the Irish Rotary OC this week:-
Make a good project? Unload that red S3 in Barrow into it and spray the lot red?
Wish I were younger.....
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Post by: 12at on May 19, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: Scott251;762951Hi There Thought I should comment! Mushy Pea would have been a nice project but afraid it was just too far gone! I have had a lot of interest in the spares so at least they haven\'t gone straight in the crusher!
No, not seen before so thanks. I\'ll enter it as a Scrapper; I can always resurrect if someone brings it back to life. Unlicensed since 2000 so standing at least 11 years.
Whereabouts in the country Scott...Dorset?
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Post by: Will66 on May 22, 2011, 07:09:58 PM
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Post by: Scott251 on May 22, 2011, 07:28:24 PM
Quote from: David Nock;764166No, not seen before so thanks. I\'ll enter it as a Scrapper; I can always resurrect if someone brings it back to life. Unlicensed since 2000 so standing at least 11 years.
Whereabouts in the country Scott...Dorset?
Yes Ringwood way I think in Dorset, guy has a classic Rover v8 SD1 as well, both been standing for the same amount of time so a bit of a hoarder I think
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Post by: captainbizzaro on May 22, 2011, 07:32:28 PM
Scott do the S1\'s have manual windows?
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Post by: Scott251 on May 22, 2011, 08:13:23 PM
The green one defiantly does as have sold the drivers glass already, am pritty sure the grey one does as well but not 100% , is it just the window mechanism you wanted or the glass as well Cheers
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Post by: captainbizzaro on May 22, 2011, 08:56:12 PM
Well I\'m thinking about converting from electric to manual so hopefully just the mechanism. I assume the glass is the same....
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Post by: Scott251 on May 22, 2011, 10:43:19 PM
Send me an email on scottbaker_cars (at) hotmail.co.uk if you decide to change over Cheers Scott
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 23, 2011, 11:56:00 AM
Quote from: David Nock;761121Last noted in Herts 2007. In a classic car dealers then. (with V8 engine).
This is the car on Driftworks that Will is talking about. (top of page) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1985-MAZDA-RX7-2-GREEN-/140546164874?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20b934488a#ht_1338wt_1141
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 23, 2011, 11:58:12 AM
Quote from: Scott251;764169Yes Ringwood way I think in Dorset, guy has a classic Rover v8 SD1 as well, both been standing for the same amount of time so a bit of a hoarder I think
Ta....and entered up
Dave
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Post by: A7RXY on May 24, 2011, 08:34:45 PM
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Post by: Skifledanabit on May 31, 2011, 12:24:40 PM
Bit of a price drop, I wonder what\'s wrong with it...
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Post by: Ian65 on May 31, 2011, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;765910Bit of a price drop, I wonder what\'s wrong with it...
he paid over the odds for it and now can\'t shift it.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Rivalrx on May 31, 2011, 06:17:22 PM
I am in the market for an FB but this one just doesn\'t work for me somehow. I want one with no respray and low/no rust. Ideally s2 but s3 is a-ok. Just sold my rx4 so have me a fist full of dollars and am empty shed.
Glad this thread is here so I can research the cars up for grabs...VERY USEFUL!!!!
Cheers
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 31, 2011, 06:26:32 PM
Yeh, it doesn\'t work for me either somehow. It just seems too \'well used\'.
It may be a good honest car though, a good starter car if budgets are tight? Don\'t know.
The car was featured in a write up in 2004. The engine had been rebuilt by then and new wings had been fitted. Owned by same person 1997 to 2010.
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Post by: Rivalrx on May 31, 2011, 06:31:10 PM
Good luck to the seller as it could be a great we car. I get nervous when there are too many replacement panels etc and resprays involved...unless I do it and can vouch that it\'s sound as a pound.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 01, 2011, 11:40:15 AM
Ford Engine car poss sold?: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1984-MAZDA-RX7-2-8-V6-/280684177311?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item415a14a79f#ht_1000wt_1141
\'Possibly\' because winning bid is the price of a spares car? Will it go for that? Can the seller escape?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 01, 2011, 12:40:04 PM
Can\'t see the point in it really - the heart has been taken out of the beast, sad really.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 01, 2011, 01:50:36 PM
The \'Cumbrian\' S3 looks nice overall but can\'t help but wonder what lies beneath lurking in the dark? Hope she turns up here at some time.
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 02, 2011, 05:50:34 PM
what\'s the down low re the scottish elford silver bullet for £950? I am keen, just not into getting to London town. Anyone know about it? Looks tidy
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 02, 2011, 06:21:37 PM
Sorry, failed here. Spotted for the 1st time on carandclassic last month. Noted it but not got a Reg...and didn\'t keep a pic.....Muchos Apology.
Any info you find out gratefully received.
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Post by: johnnyboy on June 02, 2011, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: Rivalrx;766555what\'s the down low re the scottish elford silver bullet for £950? I am keen, just not into getting to London town. Anyone know about it? Looks tidy
Where is it advertised?
Elfords are the greatest.....
John
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 02, 2011, 06:55:34 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;766567Where is it advertised?
Elfords are the greatest.....
John
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C226480
Thar she blows
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Post by: spoddy on June 02, 2011, 08:50:16 PM
wow fb\'s have dropped eh? thats a nice one, cheap at that and on the road for £950. i could buy her but edinburgh but far for me, wonder what she is like underneath?
i seen some here too, dunno if still about, but considering the prices, the above should be snapped up quickly.
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 02, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
Nice stash of FB\'s indeed. Pity that one owner one has sold.
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Post by: mooragerx7 on June 02, 2011, 09:27:51 PM
if i had the money id take the white sa
would love a sa
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 02, 2011, 09:32:29 PM
good ol s1 rx7. She is a ripper...dime a dozen at home..rare as rocking horse turd here...go figure. Just buy it mike ha ha
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Post by: spoddy on June 02, 2011, 11:00:12 PM
thats why i posted them, the sa looks a catch if she\'s not too bad underneath, problem with down under excuse any pun, is great weather and little to no rust.
but in the uk unless garaged and wax oiled then unless there is someone who can weld a new floor in, your screwed.
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 03, 2011, 06:09:41 PM
I gave up building a car here to eventually send home (to keep). Easier and cheaper getting an fb to enjoy.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 04, 2011, 12:27:31 AM
now sold... and a very nice car it looks too.... a gift at that money...
http://www.rx7fb.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=164
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Post by: spoddy on June 04, 2011, 02:06:29 AM
wow she looks a real bargain for that money. very, very tidy in the pics and drove all the way to london no problems. best of luck to its new owner, real bargain there elford turbo and all.
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Post by: Ian65 on June 05, 2011, 11:51:42 AM
Quote from: spoddy;767008ok, so when you all say location does have an affect on price, is it down to the number of these cars per location? ie maybe not as big a interest in scotland, smaller number of cars and they sold them more england, larger number? you\'d think exculsive cars would make more though but maybe its the interest in them.
when you say you know guys who wouldn\'t travel to scotland to buy the car, was it the transport costs in getting it back to where they lived which put them off, as i am talking more about the value of the car itself.
this isn\'t the correct thread to talk about fb prices i suppose, as there is the one about fb\'s still running which lists fb\'s that are for sale, so i\'ll not continue in here and disrupt steve\'s posts, sorry steve :)
i am new to fb\'s and get various opinions on how much to spend on one, but your knowledge of fb\'s is great to have and a good guide as to how much you should pay and have in reserve to restore the car to the way you want it.
my grandfather said you\'ll never have money in your pocket when you have a car, that was a good 30 or more years ago and it hasn\'t changed today. the good thing is that you\'ll have put her back with new parts which will last you years and years, just like having a new car again.
can\'t wait for the vids to hear her and see you smoke up those rear tyres lol.
the Rx7 has always been a niche car and there probably isn\'t the demand in Scotland for the cars to achieve the prices they do further south. There have been some cracking fb\'s for sale north of the border over the last 2 years.... a series 3 in Aberdeen was gorgeous... but it stuck for months and months and the price kept coming down. The buyer of the Edinburgh silver S2, by his own admission, took a chance and got the train up with a view to buy the car and drive it back. This trip could have been a complete waste of time and money but luckily for James, the car was bang on the money, he did the deal at a bargain price, had a great drive home and has had a right result but it could easily have gone the other way for him and been a disaster.
The best ( and probably only) way to get a handle on 1st gen prices and availability is to study this thread and look at all the cars offered for sale, the locations, initial asking prices, final sale prices, how long they took to sell and the comments of the members of the forum, who are very clued up about 1st gen prices Practically every 1st gen offered for sale over the last 2 years is documented within this thread.
Restoration cost vary enormously depending upon your expectations, condition of the project, budget, skill level, facilities, available time...etc etc. Steve\'s fortunate in that he\'s able to dedicate a lot of time to his project..... and has the skill and knowledge to carry it out. The amount of work he\'s done to his car would take many people much, much longer and maybe cost a lot more if they had to pay a welder.
A rolling restoration with a current mot can also be a good way to get into RX7 ownership on a budget but it can soon become a full blown \'off the road\' project when you start to do a simple job and it just escalates.
If you\'re not worried about travelling to buy a nice fb, check this one out...
it looks a very nice car and I\'d imagine the market for fb\'s is smaller there than in Scotland!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 05, 2011, 12:18:39 PM
Stop Press....I now have some more pics of the Manx Car in the link.....Would I travel for it?.....Nope.
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Post by: Ian65 on June 05, 2011, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: David Nock;767044Stop Press....I now have some more pics of the Manx Car in the link.....Would I travel for it?.....Nope.
interesting! ... digital cameras... the car sellers dream!!
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Post by: spoddy on June 05, 2011, 08:48:04 PM
i won\'t be looking at her as i might be getting one more local to me and will read through that thread like you say its a good indication of people\'s experiences. if prices have not changed much over the years then i\'ll have an idea of what i should be spending.
i suppose i am just worrying about buying a car and having to finish it and there are on the road models out there for the same money. but the only way is to keep an eye on that thread and see what comes up. :)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Rivalrx on June 06, 2011, 09:33:45 PM
What is the goes with this one? Seems tidy...maybe worth a look see?
it\'s an ex owners club car, cherished by the owner, ended up at RX Motors and Tim stuck it on the bay last November... Unwelded original car but had some sill rot... since then it\'s been mot\'d so someones put a torch near it and it\'s been for sale on and off all year. Here\'s the thread when it first surfaced at RX Motors last year...
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 07, 2011, 12:26:15 PM
Yep, that\'s about it on the recent history.
It used to belong to a guy in the old RX7 club and was spotted in the old club mag in 2002. Miles was134k then but the engine had a rebuild some time before.
At Brooklands 2003 but then unlicensed from 2004 \'till it surfaced with Tim at RX Motors in 2010. Tim said \'back end sill rot\'....(he always seems to describe \'em honest doesn\'t he). Sold @ £500, then sold and resold again in quick succession. Prices varied enormously, ranging from £520 to £1195.....take your pick.
So it seems to be an honest MOT\'d runner now? welded up we hope. But why\'d it move about so quick.....quick profit merchants?
Note: Was taxed to end of this month
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 07, 2011, 07:02:24 PM
Rusty rear end....pass. Cheers for the info
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Post by: Scott251 on June 07, 2011, 11:16:15 PM
Quote from: David Nock;763072Hi Scott, Greetings mate.
Yeh you have to know when to call it a day with cars. I think Mushy passed that day some time back.
Thanks for looking in. Stay around if you\'ve plans for the Silver wizzbomb....plenty of free help and advice on here.
Dave
Hi, Quick update, crawled all over the grey FB today beginning to prep it for the track and found the plates in the boot. I know I gave you the Vin a few weeks ago but the reg is LUR 88V, don\'t know if its in your records anywhere. Looks like it may have come from the Dorset area from a few little clues I found under the seats etc like a opticians appointment card in Bournemouth.
R.E Mushy pea, just about reached the end of the road no engine or box, front bed or struts, no rear hubs or prop and I stood in the passenger foot well yesterday and fell through to the ground! Time to say your last good byes I think!
Scott
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 08, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
Great!.....thanks for the follow up Scott. UR was a Luton plate......LUR 88V is shown as 1st Reg 08/02/1980 and unlicensed since 1992......Nothing on it Previously.
Maybe owner left Luton, ended up in Bournemouth, thinks \'Blimey, I need an Optician\'?:....:rollin
Final salute to Mushy.....Bye, Bye Pea......:WaveBye
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 09, 2011, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: Rivalrx;766006I am in the market for an FB but this one just doesn\'t work for me somehow. I want one with no respray and low/no rust. Ideally s2 but s3 is a-ok. Just sold my rx4 so have me a fist full of dollars and am empty shed.
Glad this thread is here so I can research the cars up for grabs...VERY USEFUL!!!!
Cheers
Norwich car now down to £2295.....the Red Devil.....does it for me....:3gears-rh
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 09, 2011, 08:56:33 PM
I love it!...budget tapped out at 1500...at a squeeze...it is a wee gem tho
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Post by: Ian65 on June 09, 2011, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: David Nock;767740Norwich car now down to £2295.....the Red Devil.....
room for a bit more of a slide yet in this market... nice looking car though
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Post by: myatt1972 on June 09, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: David Nock;767740the Red Devil.....does it for me....:3gears-rh
Oh Dave, anything with a stripe :D
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 10, 2011, 11:53:37 AM
Yeh, there was something about girls in striped sailor tops that appealed when I was in my youth.
Found out later what it was. Vertical stripes for my shirts......made me look thinner, hid my beer belly (a bit). However horizontal stripes on girlie tops.....mmmmm, nice.
Look inside the bonnet of that Red Devil.....that\'s the jobbie.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 10, 2011, 12:11:55 PM
Red Devil also on carandclassic:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C227700
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 12, 2011, 05:03:15 PM
The Norwich Red Devil does it for me too ... hmmmmmmm
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 13, 2011, 09:23:26 PM
I see \'WEV\' sold tonight for £515 - I wonder how long before we see it on eBay again?
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Post by: Ian65 on June 13, 2011, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: CHC;768843I see \'WEV\' sold tonight for £515 - I wonder how long before we see it on eBay again?
£515 is cheap for a mot\'d 1st gen... even if it does need a bit of work
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 13, 2011, 09:41:15 PM
I agree with that - in fact it might have been a good useable project for Spoddy (that is unless he did buy it). Spoddy - did you buy \'WEV\'?
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Post by: spoddy on June 13, 2011, 10:25:38 PM
no, not me, is that the green one on ebay? i haven\'t been really looking, just following the guys and their adventures on here.
i haven\'t heard from my mate who is thinking of moving his project on. i don\'t wanna say too much as i don\'t know if it\'ll happen etc.
but thanks for looking out for me, its much appreciated. :)
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 13, 2011, 11:20:15 PM
no - silver mate. This one has been up for sale twice before in the last 8-10 months. Nevertheless we understand about not wanting to jump yet and it sounds as if the \'one\' that is possibly being lined up is something you are quite fond of or at least very much interested in. Either way I\'m sure you\'ll be successful at some stage this year. :Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on June 14, 2011, 12:39:34 AM
i had seen an fb on ebay, but hadn\'t paid much attention to it, was just browsing through cars as you do.
like you say i know of one locally to me so will just see what happens, its a non runner but the thought of rebuilding your own car sounds great. some days i wake up and have lost interest lol, but then i look at some pics of fbs and that quickly disappears. :)
if i do get something sorted you will all be the first to know, but out of respect to its current owner who has been on here and spoken about it, i\'ll see what happens.
i have read about cars appearing and disappearing only to reappear like the bermuda triangle on here, so to me they are either trouble, or the owner got bored and wants to move it on.
have you heard why its been for sale twice before?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 14, 2011, 12:04:54 PM
No Spod, that\'s the great puzzle. We know it had sill rot problems at the back but it\'s been MOT\'d since then. Presuming it\'s a proper repair job.......
I\'m still saying 18 (total of the numbers) is the Reg No. for the car in your sights... ..... trust me on this......:Thumbs-up
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 14, 2011, 01:55:47 PM
Judging from the previous seller information his I/D was \'idealincars\' suggesting to me that he practises in buying & selling motor vehicles, so perhaps he bought it expecting a quick fix and a mega profit following its\' sale? Otherwise, unless the purchasers are dedicated forum members or lovers of the fb rx7, we don\'t really know what goes through peoples minds when buying because without previous knowledge or support from experienced persons they have no idea what faults or bad spots they should be looking for - hence this could be why some sell more regularly than others. At least if a sale came through the forum, we would have true knowledge of its\' condition due to members honesty.
If Dave is correct Spoddy with the 18 numbers, boy this must be a huge number plate :rollin
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Post by: spoddy on June 14, 2011, 07:43:18 PM
what is the one with the 18 nos?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 14, 2011, 09:53:41 PM
I\'m still saying 18 (total of the numbers) is the Reg No. for the car in your sights... ..... trust me on this......:Thumbs-up[/quote]
.... just my northern humour slipping out again Spoddy :o
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Post by: spoddy on June 14, 2011, 09:58:10 PM
lol now i\'m scared, no really what is the car? or point me to the page on here where it came up?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on June 14, 2011, 10:10:25 PM
... this one over to you Inspector Nock ....
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 15, 2011, 11:26:22 AM
If you add together the numbers in the Reg of the NI car you\'re thinking about Spoddy, you\'ll get to 18. (The car you don\'t want to say too much about).
You thought at first I meant the Blue one in Rugby, cos by coincidence that totalled 18 as well.
You may say \'what a load of bxxxxxs\' in which case I start all over again frantically trying to match with an NI car that you might be keen on?
Nothing sinister or tea leaves in a cup Spod, just a hunch as to which car you\'re looking at.
Have a fortune cookie....Dave
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Post by: shaunwil on June 15, 2011, 12:46:29 PM
Almost one less S3 this morning ! Had a motorbike run up my arse then run off. Not done a huge amount of damage to the plastic bumper. Should pull out with some heat and a block of wood.
Not a happy bunny !!!
Shaun
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Post by: Steve-A on June 15, 2011, 01:34:14 PM
Not cool :(
Just because it\'s fixable doesn\'t make it any less infuriating!
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Post by: Casey on June 15, 2011, 02:28:46 PM
Shaun - so sorry to hear of that incident. Thankfully you are not hurt, but a real nuisance to have to deal with the aftermath, especially on our older cars! I just hope the motorbiker has buckled his wheel and........ (fill in your desire for his fate here)........ would serve him right for not stopping :Grrr
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Post by: spoddy on June 15, 2011, 07:39:50 PM
lol dave looks like you\'re correct ha ha. do you know the car? black series 3 by the way.
your rainmanisk knowledge of rotaries is astounding :D
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Post by: Ian65 on June 15, 2011, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: spoddy;769288lol dave looks like you\'re correct ha ha. do you know the car? black series 3 by the way.
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Post by: shaunwil on June 15, 2011, 08:40:31 PM
Quote from: Casey;769202Shaun - so sorry to hear of that incident. Thankfully you are not hurt, but a real nuisance to have to deal with the aftermath, especially on our older cars! I just hope the motorbiker has buckled his wheel and........ (fill in your desire for his fate here)........ would serve him right for not stopping :Grrr
Hopefully !!! Will be watching out for the numpty.
Most of it has pulled out by hand, will get the bumper off at the weekend (weather dependent) and straighten it up !
Shaun
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Post by: spoddy on June 15, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
yip thats her, i hope her owner won\'t be angry talking about her like its mine thats why i don\'t want to talk about it till i see him again.
haven\'t seen her in the flesh up close yet but looks a nice wee car. must be known on here then.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 16, 2011, 10:20:16 AM
I don\'t think the owner is that sort Spoddy; besides you\'ve been very discreet about the whole thing.....it\'s just us rude boys on here pushing it. Sorry mate.
Our behaviour reminds me of a bridegroom lifting the bedsheets on the wedding night (in the old days that is, not now).......\'lets have a butcher\'s then\'.
We\'ll try and be quiet now....
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 16, 2011, 10:23:28 AM
Quote from: shaunwil;769302Hopefully !!! Will be watching out for the numpty.
Most of it has pulled out by hand, will get the bumper off at the weekend (weather dependent) and straighten it up !
Shaun
Pity he didn\'t get splattered by traffic running away Shaun.
But then he\'d sue you for making him hurt himself......dooh.
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Post by: johnnyboy on June 16, 2011, 10:26:27 AM
"Lifting bedsheets on the wedding night"?, and earlier it was "girls in striped sailor tops"...
What is going on in this forum?
These are deep waters you are taking us into David.
John
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 16, 2011, 10:30:37 AM
It\'s a pervy age thing I guess.
But both nice thoughts to be having?
.....Or am I starting another facebook here?
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Post by: johnnyboy on June 16, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
Sounds OK to me. John
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Post by: shaunwil on June 16, 2011, 12:46:12 PM
Pulled most of the damage out, just need to pull it off and check the clips etc !
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on June 16, 2011, 09:36:29 PM
i am too young for all this :chat just joined as a full member but trying to access some of the members forums and not getting into them?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on June 16, 2011, 10:28:20 PM
^^Spoddy, the membership process is not fully automated, so it will take a short while for the payment to be acknowledged and your membership upgraded on this forum. If still a problem in 24hrs, post up on here and I\'ll investigate.
And thankyou for joining up to support this community :wave
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Post by: spoddy on June 16, 2011, 10:44:29 PM
hi
thanks casey, i\'ll see if i get any more access later. no problem, i enjoy the chat on here and everyone is so helpful, i feel alot more confident in my knowledge of rx7 fb\'s now thanks to you all.
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Post by: spoddy on June 18, 2011, 01:37:36 AM
hi still not getting full access, can someone help?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on June 18, 2011, 09:32:55 AM
^^ I\'ve escalated the issue for attention. Not sure what has happened as this process normally takes place fairly quickly.
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Post by: Lisa on June 18, 2011, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: spoddy;769965hi still not getting full access, can someone help?
Please can you advise if you are RONALD CLOUGHLEY as I emailed you yesterday morning, using the email address shown on Paypal asking for your username so I could amend access and have had no reply to it.
I just need to check if you are the same person before I can amend access.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on June 18, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
Thx Lisa! I see Spoddy is now fully on board :driving
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Post by: A7RXY on June 18, 2011, 10:56:28 AM
Spoddy wellcome as a fully member ............. Now all you need to do is get that FB
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 18, 2011, 11:34:46 AM
Always be Spod to me mate. You can call me Nocky.
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Post by: shaunwil on June 18, 2011, 03:11:44 PM
Welcome aboard :D
After about 2 hrs, a lump of wood and big hammer the back bumper is back in one piece. The metal backing was all bent but wasn\'t a big job straightening out !
One of the reasons I love the FB is how easy the thing is to work on. 25 year bolts, either they come out easy or the head shears off :Giggle
Shaun
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Post by: spoddy on June 18, 2011, 04:08:42 PM
lol, thanks Lisa, I went onto my old email connected to Paypal and have sent you a reply. Thanks guys for another welcome lol, I know it costs money to keep the club running, but its very good and really great having friends who can help you out and be your eyes and ears on my FB quest.
I will see how the homefront goes for me and if it doesn\'t work out, I\'ll check the mainland. Spied another FB in Scotland again, dunno if you all seen this one?
Now its very local to me in N.Ireland and on the road etc, its about 12-15 miles away, but think its a bit out of my price range, which is why I had asked about how you go about putting the value to the FB.
A guy I know from another rotary club site had told me about this car, but he didn\'t think it would be this kinda money. I don\'t want to waste the mans time, but if it was like it rooled off the factory and now rot, then it would be worth it. I know of another mint green coloured one which has had alot of money put into it, I was told about a year ago for £2600.
But maybe its because there are not many over here that they are that price?
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Post by: Ian65 on June 18, 2011, 04:46:44 PM
Now its very local to me in N.Ireland and on the road etc, its about 12-15 miles away, but think its a bit out of my price range, which is why I had asked about how you go about putting the value to the FB.
A guy I know from another rotary club site had told me about this car, but he didn\'t think it would be this kinda money. I don\'t want to waste the mans time, but if it was like it rooled off the factory and now rot, then it would be worth it. I know of another mint green coloured one which has had alot of money put into it, I was told about a year ago for £2600.
But maybe its because there are not many over here that they are that price?
almost every 1st gen tha\'s been offered for sale on the mainland has been noted in this thread.... the most a 1st gen has sold for in the last 2 years was £2600..... most are making well under £2000, under 1500 quid most of them
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Post by: spoddy on June 18, 2011, 05:02:20 PM
Thats what I had seen Ian when I was reading through the pages of this forum. I know that you get what you pay for. If the car was in really good order and you don\'t have to spend any money on it then I suppose £2600-£3250 etc is cheaper than paying for welding, parts and time to rebuild one.
No pics as yet for the red fb in Newry N.I. so I dunno if you have her on your list? Unless you have a location to go by?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 18, 2011, 06:25:33 PM
Nothing in Newry Spoddy, though I have got a red one noted in Armagh. The guy got it from Mazdabits in Newtownards, according to an IROC post in 2009. I\'ve no Reg for that one either so whether it\'s the same car or not I don\'t know.
Thanks for the Scotland one as well. I hadn\'t seen that. looks like a nice car. But does anyone else agree with me that the spoiler will do a good job of unloading the back end, if an FB ever goes fast enough to worry about that? I do like the inset rear fogs.
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Post by: spoddy on June 18, 2011, 07:04:33 PM
i agree about that spoiler, does not suit it and god only knows how she handles, but she looks a tidy car for the money, underneath is a mystery as always until you view them.
yeah the guy in mazdabits in newtownards owns the mint green one, but he wants 2600 for it as he put alot into the car. haven\'t viewed her though. there is also another mint green one with skirts etc, dunno if they are elford turbo, as was told of one in lisburn, but again it was last year. so dunno if she is still about.
i might give the fella in mazdabits a call and see what he has about.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Rivalrx on June 19, 2011, 02:24:30 PM
I saw a red Series 2 FB Left Hand Drive parked in Maida Vale London this morning with rego reading A395VUW..I think. GX or GS on the back badge.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 19, 2011, 04:17:41 PM
Quote from: Rivalrx;770184I saw a red Series 2 FB Left Hand Drive parked in Maida Vale London this morning with rego reading A395VUW..I think. GX or GS on the back badge.
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Post by: Rivalrx on June 19, 2011, 06:47:03 PM
Sure was. I took a sly pic and when I got home all I could see is the rear number plate!!!! That\'s it. A left hooker
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Post by: antnicuk on June 19, 2011, 08:24:51 PM
Sorry guys, this is quite depressing, i went to my dads at the weekend and both the elfords are just sitting there rotting :( The red one is my old one with the turbo 2 engine and box. The blue one with the TWR front end is an elford with some minor rear end damage but both are disintegrating more and more each time i go :(
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 19, 2011, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: antnicuk;770239Sorry guys, this is quite depressing, i went to my dads at the weekend and both the elfords are just sitting there rotting :( The red one is my old one with the turbo 2 engine and box. The blue one with the TWR front end is an elford with some minor rear end damage but both are disintegrating more and more each time i go :(
that\'s a sad sight.... your red car is looking very sorry for itself compared to the last photo I saw of it. Are they still ok or too far gone now?
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Post by: spoddy on June 19, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
oh man, i can see the water running from the head lights lol. interesting front bumper on the red one. you should buy some weather proof car covers and throw them over them. brush some waster oil under them too as a temp precaution for the rust eating in. nice elfords though :)
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Post by: Ian65 on June 19, 2011, 08:48:36 PM
the spoiler on the blue Elford is a TWR front spoiler, which was a popular and more common bodykit back in the 80\'s
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on June 20, 2011, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;770239Sorry guys, this is quite depressing, i went to my dads at the weekend and both the elfords are just sitting there rotting :( The red one is my old one with the turbo 2 engine and box. The blue one with the TWR front end is an elford with some minor rear end damage but both are disintegrating more and more each time i go :(
I agree with what Ian said, are they too far gone to bring back to life?
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Post by: Ian65 on June 20, 2011, 05:37:14 PM
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: antnicuk on June 20, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
they are too far gone really unless you like welding
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Post by: Steve-A on June 20, 2011, 09:05:58 PM
:(
Thats a shame to hear antnicuk. Are you hoping to resurrect them? or make use of parts of them in a new project?
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Post by: antnicuk on June 20, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
no, i have Ian (Trinds) old shell and an FD donor so i am going to concentrate on that. I told Dad if he is going to scrap them to take all the good bits off first. The problem he is 4 hours drive from me so its not a case of popping over to sort them out. I havent got the room to store them even though getting them wouldnt be too much of a problem.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 20, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: antnicuk;770484no, i have Ian (Trinds) old shell and an FD donor so i am going to concentrate on that. I told Dad if he is going to scrap them to take all the good bits off first. The problem he is 4 hours drive from me so its not a case of popping over to sort them out. I havent got the room to store them even though getting them wouldnt be too much of a problem.
it\'d be a shame to scrap that Elford stuff.... hard to find these days
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on June 20, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
damm that bloomin rust. i wonder do mazda have a few old shells knocking about or could knock up some for us all. Then you could transplant the engine and elford bits and interior over, quick paint job and hey presto :driving
i make it sound so easy don\'t i :D
its such a shame, daren\'t leave anything out in our weather, you just have to look at your brake discs after a day in the damp rainy weather.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: antnicuk on June 20, 2011, 10:24:56 PM
i have the next best thing which is Ian\'s old shell :guinness, although i wont be using any FB running gear :Nono!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Steve-A on June 20, 2011, 10:44:08 PM
I hate to be a vulture, but if they must be scrapped, then I\'m sure someone from here who\'s fairly local to the cars could be arranged to go get valuable bits. I for one would be interested in either of the front bumpers, and I\'m sure the elford turbo parts would be readily snapped up.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: ossie747 on June 20, 2011, 11:19:32 PM
Quote from: Steve-A;770510I hate to be a vulture, but if they must be scrapped, then I\'m sure someone from here who\'s fairly local to the cars could be arranged to go get valuable bits. I for one would be interested in either of the front bumpers, and I\'m sure the elford turbo parts would be readily snapped up.
Like Steve said I\'m sure the parts would soon go to good homes should the cars end up going as spares and I too would be interested in the TWR front bumper should Steve prefer the other.
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Post by: A7RXY on June 21, 2011, 06:33:04 AM
Just to add to the above I would be interested in the Elford turbo set up. Dibs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 21, 2011, 01:41:43 PM
Another offering on ebay
S2 Silver with body kit.....Spares or more likely resto job. Engine bay is not the usual pit of decaying metal.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 21, 2011, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: David Nock;770650Another offering on ebay
S2 Silver with body kit.....Spares or more likely resto job.
plenty of wrecks appearing all of a sudden... must be the time of year
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Post by: spoddy on June 21, 2011, 08:26:22 PM
sad to see too though, there\'ll not be many left at this rate as time is against them all with body decay and rust.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: antnicuk on June 22, 2011, 09:00:37 AM
I will speak to dad and see about going and getting the good bits. The blue one has a japanese 12a engine that Tim at RX motors supplied. These were turbo charged from mazda and had lower compression. It still runs the elford turbo and inlet though, not the jap injected stuff.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on June 23, 2011, 12:36:04 PM
Quote from: David Nock;770650Another offering on ebay
S2 Silver with body kit.....Spares or more likely resto job. Engine bay is not the usual pit of decaying metal.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on June 27, 2011, 09:50:06 PM
when i seen the 2nd pic, i thought it was a corgi model, strange pic, it really looks like a toy or model, doesn\'t it? starting to really come out of the woodwork, must be this SORN and having car insurance unless car is SORN\'d.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 28, 2011, 12:35:31 PM
And on Car and Classic today.....David Stile\'s old Elford.....Now in Oxfordshire.
That was quick.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C235783
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 28, 2011, 12:37:43 PM
Quote from: Ian65;770684Elford front and rear spoilers... engine looks the standard n/a mazda offering though...
I couldn\'t get the colour of this one. Says Silver but is it? Perhaps the fluorescent lighting.
Nice Wheels.
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Post by: Ian65 on June 28, 2011, 01:30:45 PM
Quote from: David Nock;772274Sold? for £205. Bargain of the month that one, trust yer old mucker.
do you know something we don\'t ?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: johnnyboy on June 28, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
Quote from: antnicuk;770817IThe blue one has a japanese 12a engine that Tim at RX motors supplied. These were turbo charged from mazda and had lower compression. It still runs the elford turbo and inlet though, not the jap injected stuff.
Sorry to be thick, but I have wondered for a while..... How do they drop the compression ratio of a Rotary? They presumably are not different housings or Rotors, so do they just machine more out of the faces of the rotors to leave more space when compressed? If so, what else does this do to the combustion shape / efficiency / emissions etc?
john
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Post by: Marcrs on June 28, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: Ian65;772285do you know something we don\'t ?
the sunroof is worth nearly that...
I missed the end of the auction...was going to have that :(
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Marcrs on June 28, 2011, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from: David Nock;772276I couldn\'t get the colour of this one. Says Silver but is it? Perhaps the fluorescent lighting.
Nice Wheels.
looks like V3 tender blue to me ;)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 28, 2011, 04:40:01 PM
Quote from: Marcrs;772338the sunroof is worth nearly that...
I missed the end of the auction...was going to have that :(
glass was it? he told me it was tin.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on June 28, 2011, 05:11:09 PM
Quote from: David Nock;772273And on Car and Classic today.....David Stile\'s old Elford.....Now in Oxfordshire.
That was quick.
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C235783
yeah, in view of Daves last post on his for sale thread...
Quote from: dstiles999;762093Car now sold to an enthuiastic first time rotary man:WaveBye
er... yeah
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on June 28, 2011, 05:45:48 PM
Quote from: Ian65;772285do you know something we don\'t ?
The Silver S2 RYE,....No, nothing, but I could imagine bolting a new wing on, sourcing some S2 front seats, using our newly discovered bars of clay on it and.....away we go...:3gears-rh
That engine bay says \'I\'ve had a good home at some time recently\'.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: antnicuk on June 28, 2011, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;772330Sorry to be thick, but I have wondered for a while..... How do they drop the compression ratio of a Rotary? They presumably are not different housings or Rotors, so do they just machine more out of the faces of the rotors to leave more space when compressed? If so, what else does this do to the combustion shape / efficiency / emissions etc?
john
the rotors have different sized wells/chambers in them, but they are made by mazda like it. All models have had different comp ratios throughout history. The turbo II and FD are the same comp ratio but the rx8 and egi are different, asi is the 12a turbo compared to the 12 carbed non turbo one. The series 4 turbo (turbo I not made in the uk) had lower compression than the turbo II and a popular upgrade for people wanting to run higher boost safely, this is the same for the 12A turbo engine.
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Post by: Ian65 on June 28, 2011, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: antnicuk;772463the rotors have different sized wells/chambers in them, but they are made by mazda like it. All models have had different comp ratios throughout history. The turbo II and FD are the same comp ratio but the rx8 and egi are different, asi is the 12a turbo compared to the 12 carbed non turbo one. The series 4 turbo (turbo I not made in the uk) had lower compression than the turbo II and a popular upgrade for people wanting to run higher boost safely, this is the same for the 12A turbo engine.
interesting stuff... what boost were you running on the Elford setup with the JMD engine?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 01, 2011, 01:01:41 PM
Last Up Feb 2011:
Quote from: Ian65;741013Red 1982 series 2 being broken on ebay...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 01, 2011, 02:38:38 PM
it\'s worth half that
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on July 01, 2011, 08:47:12 PM
it looks rough on ebay, missing passenger door card, nice colour though, the red interior. but whats the belly like :) as it looks alot worse than in the pics above.
parts me thinks.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: antnicuk on July 01, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
Quote from: Ian65;772469interesting stuff... what boost were you running on the Elford setup with the JMD engine?
it was my cousins car (female) so it was standard boost
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 02, 2011, 11:44:53 AM
And a long advertised car, this time on classiccarsforsale.
I have mixed feelings for the seller of this car.....so much work and effort has gone into this. But unable to sell and years have gone by. Must be soul destroying.
My other feelings are that it\'s such a clash with the principle of preserving what Mazda set out to create in the beginning.
Sorry mate, hope something comes up for you in the exchange line.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 02, 2011, 01:04:32 PM
Quote from: David Nock;773165And a long advertised car, this time on classiccarsforsale.
I have mixed feelings for the seller of this car.....so much work and effort has gone into this. But unable to sell and years have gone by. Must be soul destroying.
My other feelings are that it\'s such a clash with the principle of preserving what Mazda set out to create in the beginning.
Sorry mate, hope something comes up for you in the exchange line.
it\'s a sad fact that you never get your money back if you spend loads on a classic car... not to mention your time.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on July 03, 2011, 02:14:51 AM
i remember going to look at an old e class merc with my father as at the time he was wanting one and the owner didn\'t have a full battery so couldn\'t start her. anyway we chatted in his garage or large shed as he had a few vauxhall corsas all boy racered up with recaro seats etc. the owners had spent thousands on them, lexus lights and sound systems, you know the tesco carpark crowd etc. he was selling them for a couple of grand, morale of the story they got the enjoyment out of it and moved on to something else.
this owner will have to do the same as what he thought was cool to do, doesn\'t appeal to everyone. i just don\'t get people putting cylinder engines into rotary cars as surely the rx cars are designed with the rotary engine in mind?
you may not get your money or time back, but you should enjoy the fact you have put a classic car back on the road and amongst the hum drum of modern cars, your classic will stand out and turn a few heads and bring back some memories for those who recognise what they see driving past them, surely that\'s priceless :)
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Post by: Ian65 on July 03, 2011, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: spoddy;773268i remember going to look at an old e class merc with my father as at the time he was wanting one and the owner didn\'t have a full battery so couldn\'t start her. anyway we chatted in his garage or large shed as he had a few vauxhall corsas all boy racered up with recaro seats etc. the owners had spent thousands on them, lexus lights and sound systems, you know the tesco carpark crowd etc. he was selling them for a couple of grand, morale of the story they got the enjoyment out of it and moved on to something else.
this owner will have to do the same as what he thought was cool to do, doesn\'t appeal to everyone. i just don\'t get people putting cylinder engines into rotary cars as surely the rx cars are designed with the rotary engine in mind?
you may not get your money or time back, but you should enjoy the fact you have put a classic car back on the road and amongst the hum drum of modern cars, your classic will stand out and turn a few heads and bring back some memories for those who recognise what they see driving past them, surely that\'s priceless :)
I agree Ronnie, it is\'t about the money.... I\'ve spent thousands on classic cars over the last 20 or so years, restoring and enjoying them and have \'lost\' ££££\'s doing so.... but the money doesn\'t matter to me, it\'s what I enjoy doing and the pleasure I get from the cars makes it all worthwhile.
Problem is, when you come to sell, you can only get what the market will stand and in the case of a rotary car that\'s had a piston engine put into it, it\'s anything but priceless...the market is very tough at the moment.
The heart ( and in my view, the whole point) of an RX7 is the rotary engine... if you\'re going to take that out, you might as well buy a pistoned engined car in the first place. This red car is a one off and may find a buyer at any time.... at 5 grand though, it\'s a lot of bread.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on July 03, 2011, 07:13:11 PM
rx stands for rotary experimental, so an rx car is designed for the rotary engine. this car will not make the asking price, its been around for a while and looks nice except you read about the piston engine and then your interest goes.
now if it had a cosmo 3 rotor engine then it would be worth the money or near to it. the owner will end up letting it go at half or less than half of the asking price, not much cash about thanks to our government :) 5 grand alot for a car like this.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Rivalrx on July 03, 2011, 08:49:26 PM
If this car was original as it came out of the dealer then that price is great. It had a piston engine in it and the body has been altered too much in my opinion. Don\'t get me wrong, I hope it finds a new owner but I highly doubt it for that price.
It\'s kind of like Michael Jackson - been altered so much it is doesn\'t resemble the original which was much better.
Piston into a rotary...
This is a concept I will never get my head around as it\'s that engine that makes them so so special.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 03, 2011, 11:16:59 PM
Silver series 3 restoration project on ebay... Cornwall.... £99 start with reserve
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on July 04, 2011, 12:53:15 AM
wow, its like FB heaven isn\'t it. you wait for one and several come along. all coming out of the woodwork now, the silver interior looks nicer than the grey of the dark blue or what ever colour it is, but both look tidy inside and out.
if both been stored wonder how the underneath looks? better inside a container than sitting in the rain outside i suppose.
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Post by: B.Martin on July 04, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: BenRX;756954As requested. The 1st gen in Limassol that needs rescuing! (sorry about the quality but I had to do drive by photo using an iPhone!)
I\'m guessing its been sold, one day it was missing from its usual place and the next day it returned... But now its gone for good. Hopefully to a good home, i guess that kinda proved the engine was in working order.
I used to like looking at that FB it gave me hope that i would get my FC from the port soon
Bye Lemesos FB :wave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 04, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Quote from: spoddy;773508wow, its like FB heaven isn\'t it. you wait for one and several come along. all coming out of the woodwork now, the silver interior looks nicer than the grey of the dark blue or what ever colour it is, but both look tidy inside and out.
if both been stored wonder how the underneath looks? better inside a container than sitting in the rain outside i suppose.
Both a bit scruffy underbonnet but if I\'d been sitting in a container for yonks I\'d be a bit scruffy.
I like the Blue one quite a bit. Good history and all that. The Reg is not the one you can buy (thought not).
I\'m sure the Blue one is the one advertised in Ainsdale this April.....It was on carandclassic.....no pics or Reg. but the description is the same.
Ainsdale and now on a friend\'s ebay located in Southport....yes that makes a good match
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 05, 2011, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: David Nock;772276I couldn\'t get the colour of this one. Says Silver but is it? Perhaps the fluorescent lighting.
Nice Wheels.
Bexhill-on-Sea Silver car with rubbed out Reg.....Sold? £420
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 05, 2011, 05:34:39 PM
Only 3 or 4 times in the last year .............:rollin
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Post by: B.Martin on July 06, 2011, 08:17:53 AM
Quote from: BenRX;773526Its Gone!!!!
I\'m guessing its been sold, one day it was missing from its usual place and the next day it returned... But now its gone for good. Hopefully to a good home, i guess that kinda proved the engine was in working order.
I used to like looking at that FB it gave me hope that i would get my FC from the port soon
Bye Lemesos FB :wave
Seen it Yesterday afternoon driving around, great stuff. Someone has a daily driven FB in Cyprus :cheers
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 06, 2011, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: BenRX;774055Seen it Yesterday afternoon driving around, great stuff. Someone has a daily driven FB in Cyprus :cheers
Direct him onto here if you get chance Ben.....If he/she needs help of info he\'ll find it on here for sure.
Thanks for the update.
Dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 06, 2011, 12:29:27 PM
And anyone who remembers Red S3 \'The Duke\' in York....
Now on ebay....http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1984-MAZDA-RX7-2-RED-/150628443011?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item231227a383#ht_1168wt_1117
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: sanbob on July 06, 2011, 05:07:07 PM
Bad times guys. Very sad to say the duke has to go but dont have enough time to fully restore it and it seems like even less time to drive it lately since my last post i havnt really had a problem worth noting the car has been running fine at least twice a week but only round town or to my friends house an back hehe. Had to think long and hard about this for a while now but it comes down to not having enough time or enough funds to drive or fix the problems of any of my 4 cars so selling 3 of them keeping the battleship as both me and my wife can use that. If anyone is interested in the duke give me a shout before the listing is over. I also have the MR2 going cheap as i would rather it go to a good home than the scrap man has been stood for 5 years and needs a lot of work i have been offered £180 for scrap. Thanks for all your help guys i will return with another 1st gen someday but probably in 10 or so years when my little girl has grown up.
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Post by: A7RXY on July 06, 2011, 05:14:37 PM
Sorry to hear that Rob, good luck.
Dibs
PS In 10 years or so I\'ll be too old for mine so it could be just about ready for you.
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Post by: sanbob on July 06, 2011, 05:23:32 PM
I\'ll keep that in mind cheers mate
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Post by: Ian65 on July 06, 2011, 06:18:12 PM
good luck with the sale Rob.... you\'ve been very honest about it and you shouldn\'t have much trouble selling it with a mot. I had to bale out of 1st gens years ago when the kids were little but as someone once said, 1st gens are like the mafia.... once you\'re in, you\'re in for life.... hope you return to the fold as well someday.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 07, 2011, 06:46:09 PM
Pistonheads today.....
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3009408.htm
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Post by: ossie747 on July 07, 2011, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: David Nock;774448Pistonheads today.....
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3009408.htm
Wasn\'t this the car the popular Don was planning on purchasing? :Giggle
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 07, 2011, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: ossie747;774466Wasn\'t this the car the popular Don was planning on purchasing? :Giggle
No, that was C147TMX..... I believe it was subsequently sold on but thankfully, not to him.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: daverey on July 09, 2011, 11:21:09 PM
David can you please change my car from sorn to on the road. Daverey
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 10, 2011, 12:00:17 PM
Done Deal Dave......Thanks Mate. Now 48 taxed (or rally/track use) S3\'s for the Summer.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 10, 2011, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: Ian65;7741501st gens are like the mafia.... once you\'re in, you\'re in for life.....
Thats signature gold right there;)
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Post by: daverey on July 10, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: David Nock;774942Done Deal Dave......Thanks Mate. Now 48 taxed (or rally/track use) S3\'s for the Summer.
Thanks David I just managed to get everything sorted in time for a run down to Beaulieu today. It felt really good to be back in the car again, although a little stressful as it has been over 3 years since it has been on the road. Spent half the journey watching all the gauges, and listening for strange noises, but everything was ok.
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Post by: A7RXY on July 11, 2011, 06:16:03 AM
Did you take any pic\'s at Beaulieu ? if so can you post them up so we can see what we missed.
Dibs
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Post by: cmnck06 on July 11, 2011, 09:26:29 PM
heres mine all legal now YLW 716x...had a new engine fitted at rx motors in 94. dont know how she ended up here
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Post by: daverey on July 11, 2011, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;775075Did you take any pic\'s at Beaulieu ? if so can you post them up so we can see what we missed.
Dibs
Dibs Just a few pictures to give you an idea of what was there.
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Post by: daverey on July 11, 2011, 11:15:52 PM
Sorry no picture attached. I will try again tomorrow.
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Post by: A7RXY on July 12, 2011, 06:03:39 AM
Quote from: daverey;775326Sorry no picture attached. I will try again tomorrow.
Thanks no prob
Dibs
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: sanbob on July 13, 2011, 06:56:45 PM
The Duke has gone :( but on the upside is gone to a good home where it is going to be fully stripped down and restored with a brand new 3 rotor engine the guy paid £3500 for only wanted the duke for the chassis rest will be either restored or replaced. once again thanks for all the help guys i\'ll be back hehe
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 13, 2011, 08:44:36 PM
Did he pay £3500 for your car or the 20B?! I\'m guessing the 20B.
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Post by: daverey on July 13, 2011, 09:28:27 PM
Dibs bit late but here are a few
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Post by: daverey on July 13, 2011, 09:30:13 PM
A few more
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Post by: A7RXY on July 14, 2011, 06:08:10 AM
Cheers Davery. Wonder whos Red Rx that is, very sim to mine .........
Nice to see Steve made it, makes all that hard work worth it ........
Dibs
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Post by: Steve-A on July 14, 2011, 08:23:10 AM
Sorry Dibs, but that\'s NEV. I made it but driving my mums mx5.
Was a nice day out though. Mx5 owners club are all very tame, lots of grey hair and wicker picknic baskets, but there was plenty to see. The museum was great and the surroundings very pretty. :)
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Post by: A7RXY on July 14, 2011, 11:29:37 AM
:spankSilly me an age momment ..................
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 14, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;775841Cheers Davery. Wonder whos Red Rx that is, very sim to mine .........
Nice to see Steve made it, makes all that hard work worth it ........
Dibs
That\'s Daverey\'s own car Dibs.....First time out in 3 years. Very low miles, like yours and Stu\'s.
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Post by: A7RXY on July 14, 2011, 12:34:06 PM
Interestring............... Thanks Dave
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Post by: sanbob on July 14, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;775769Did he pay £3500 for your car or the 20B?! I\'m guessing the 20B.
yea the 20b £400 mine went for :cool
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 16, 2011, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: David Nock;772954Last Up Feb 2011:
pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item519a1e3483#ht_720wt_883 Back on ebay as a Project Car.
Was selling parts but seems to have gone back to project car idea.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on July 16, 2011, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: David Nock;776310http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Classic-1982-MAZDA-RX7-2-FB13-Easy-Project-Good-Runner-/350478021763?
Was selling parts but seems to have gone back to project car idea.
I\'m not surprised...
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 16, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
Pretty sure trade plates don\'t allow you to drive with no MOT:flamed
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Post by: Ian65 on July 16, 2011, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;776408Pretty sure trade plates don\'t allow you to drive with no MOT:flamed
they don\'t... only tax or to a pre booked mot.... the old bill have a saying, \'red on white, stop on sight\'... because they know the trade plate system is used as a cover for loads of con & use and RTA offences.
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Post by: Ian65 on July 16, 2011, 08:27:28 PM
\'One hour after listing, there have been over 800 page views and there are now 34 watchers - please don\'t think too long - rather than holding out for the highest offer, I\'m likely to take the first reasonable offer off someone who I can come to an arrangement with that the car goes sooner rather than later, as I desperately need the space. \'
ebay page views shows 167 views in total? Looks like he\'s back on the drugs again...
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: spoddy on July 25, 2011, 12:58:19 AM
have you seen this one on ebay? looks like a jap import with pas and the smaller wing mirrors.
Nice looking motor but I doubt if it has powered steering and I don\'t ever recall seeing a rex with a tilt steering wheel - anybody else seen one?
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 27, 2011, 11:56:31 PM
Have been looking back through eBay on RX7 sales and noticed that "WEV" resurfaced - what\'s the script with this car? I also noticed from the seller description that he had used this car for a long time as his daily runner yet had only owned it for about 6 weeks :Hammer Is there something seriously wrong with this car - anybody have any idea? Ta Cliff
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Post by: spoddy on July 28, 2011, 12:01:48 AM
is this the silver one?
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Post by: 13x on July 28, 2011, 03:33:14 AM
it looks pretty good, am almost tempted to bid on it
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Post by: Ian65 on July 28, 2011, 06:57:08 AM
Quote from: CHC;778694Have been looking back through eBay on RX7 sales and noticed that "WEV" resurfaced - what\'s the script with this car? I also noticed from the seller description that he had used this car for a long time as his daily runner yet had only owned it for about 6 weeks :Hammer Is there something seriously wrong with this car - anybody have any idea? Ta Cliff
rust is my guess
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 28, 2011, 08:33:01 AM
Quote from: spoddy;778699is this the silver one?
Yep - that\'s the one Spoddy.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 28, 2011, 08:44:07 AM
Quote from: Ian65;778709rust is my guess
Yes my guess too Ian. I do remember the drivers\' seat was worn on the piping but that certainly wouldn\'t be an issue for anyone in my book. Perhaps it just doesn\'t drive properly or feels wollowie - maybe someone \'in the know\' will post a reply?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 28, 2011, 06:01:05 PM
Looky here whats turned up in Dublin. http://www.irishrotary.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5120&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45
You can scroll down the page to read the For Sale Ad in the screen.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 28, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
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Post by: A7RXY on July 28, 2011, 06:07:00 PM
My first RX7 was KYO 508X from Richard Knight Cars in Swiss Cottage, so that one must have come from them aswell.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 28, 2011, 06:11:05 PM
We\'ve been tracking that Red S2 all round the South West and South Coast. Now it\'s in Eire.
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Post by: spoddy on July 28, 2011, 10:20:52 PM
asking alot for that red fb at the dublin car show and the other red fb. as the republic of ireland is a different country to me as i am in the north, you also have taxes to pay and registering the car for the UK etc.
so alot to pay and they look nothing special to some of the users cars on here and what they payed. i do like the black interior in the car show fb. i was wondering was it grey originally and custom coloured? i have been told fb\'s did have black carpet and dashes etc but i mostly have seen grey carpets and dashes.
i have seen that black fb on donedeal before, sounds like alot of work.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 28, 2011, 11:22:51 PM
so alot to pay and they look nothing special to some of the users cars on here and what they payed. i do like the black interior in the car show fb. i was wondering was it grey originally and custom coloured? i have been told fb\'s did have black carpet and dashes etc but i mostly have seen grey carpets and dashes.
Yeah my 1st had black carpets & dash (an imported SA model) - if you like it that much I have 90% of an interior to sell in black (if ever interested). I dare say there are still quite a few around in this colour. Cliff
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Post by: spoddy on July 28, 2011, 11:35:47 PM
i\'ll hold you to that mate, if i ever get an fb lol. i do like the red interior too, something different. i know you can buy plastic paint but one scratch and its ruined, better to get the colour you like.
i am not a fan of gray as a colour to be honest and the colours i like have gray interiors, bar white/silver.
i take it the dash etc are very easily removed?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 29, 2011, 12:04:16 AM
Quote from: spoddy;778908i\'ll hold you to that mate, if i ever get an fb lol. i do like the red interior too, something different. i know you can buy plastic paint but one scratch and its ruined, better to get the colour you like.
i am not a fan of gray as a colour to be honest and the colours i like have gray interiors, bar white/silver.
i take it the dash etc are very easily removed?
1stly I don\'t have the dash unfortunately but this can be sourced from breakers and perhaps even the odd one knocking around in another rotarshed on the forum?
As for the removal, I changed mine on JAZ last year and from start to finish it took about a day & a half - but I took out the support frame too so it could be done in a day in my opinion. Difficulty factor on a 1 to 10 scale - being honest I\'d say a 7 (for me anyhow), I did have a thread on this which I\'ll dig it out & post the link for you. Satisfaction factor - a big 10 & oh what pleasure when everything worked 1st time afterwards. Others on the forum suggested painting but honestly I was well chuffed when it was done and what an experience. Cliff
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Post by: spoddy on July 29, 2011, 12:18:51 AM
wow sounds a biggish job, i see you are in the wirral, are you close to rafa benetiz\'s house lol? i\'m a big liverpool fc fan, been to liverpool years ago, plan on getting over to anfield this season. be great to see your fb, have you got pics of the job in your thread?
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Post by: captainbizzaro on July 29, 2011, 08:32:15 PM
Hey Dave, my eldest lad was in Bournemouth at a friends house and off the trampoline spotted two 7\'s in next doors garage. He\'s got a good eye that boy. Anyway, we went round to have a nose, owned by an elderly fella who\'s had them both for 15 years-not been MOT\'d for 10. Spotless, the both of them. (http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/captainbizzaro/3f326633.jpg) The white one isn\'t an Elford, he just replaced the spoiler, but literally apart from that 100% original. Don\'t know if you have them already but he gave permission to add them anyway as he doesn\'t have a computer.
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Post by: Ian65 on July 29, 2011, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;779030Hey Dave, my eldest lad was in Bournemouth at a friends house and off the trampoline spotted two 7\'s in next doors garage. He\'s got a good eye that boy. Anyway, we went round to have a nose, owned by an elderly fella who\'s had them both for 15 years-not been MOT\'d for 10. Spotless, the both of them. (http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/captainbizzaro/3f326633.jpg) The white one isn\'t an Elford, he just replaced the spoiler, but literally apart from that 100% original. Don\'t know if you have them already but he gave permission to add them anyway as he doesn\'t have a computer.
good spot!
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Post by: spoddy on July 29, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
wow they are nice aren\'t they. always wee gems hiding away in a garage waiting to be seen again :)
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 29, 2011, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: spoddy;778916wow sounds a biggish job, i see you are in the wirral, are you close to rafa benetiz\'s house lol? i\'m a big liverpool fc fan, been to liverpool years ago, plan on getting over to anfield this season. be great to see your fb, have you got pics of the job in your thread?
Hi Spoddy - think it\'s more of a case does rafa benetiz live near me! Not to sure but the following celebs do: John Barnes Mike McGere from the \'Scaffold\' (Paul McCartneys brother) Elton Wellsby Ian St John to name a few. As far as the thread goes for the dashboard - yes there are pics there and here in the basic instruction to do the job (note this is the refitting instruction so to take one out, start reading at the end and work up): Well was it as simple as following instructions in reverse - basically yes. If anyone does this like myself and takes the supporting frame out too:- 1) make sure you put the wiring loom on top of the supporting brackets (4 number) before re-connecting the air ducting middle section to the dash. Re-connecting the air duct is a bit difficult as this has to be done blind - 2 screws inside the air duct to the underside of the dash and remember to put the wiring loom between the dash and duct before you secure with the screws otherwise the wiring loom will not fit correctly. 2) also remember the routing of the wiring loom at the centre console to the bottom switches and clock - very important as not much slack in the loom and tight position means the loom connectors will not sit correctly so you would not be able to screw the centre panel to the console.
It is awkward to re-fit the dash as you have to keep moving the air duct(s) and ease the wiring loom so that it locates onto the 4 supporting brackets - make sure the 5 bolts locate in their respective clearance hole and then secure the 3 no. fixing bolts on top to the front bulkhead. Fit and secure the 5 nuts on the underside of the dash - it is easier to fit the nearside nuts if you bend the plastic ducting away from the middle section. Once secure re-fir the air duct to the middle section. Re-fit bolts for steering column to the frame. Re-fit the 7 bolts at bottom of dash to the frame - 1 each end and 5 along the front. Secure the wiring loom inside the \'clock\' area to the underside of the dash. Re-fit facia above dash infront of the windscreen - 3 screws required - this is tedious but stick with it Re-fit \'clock\' panel and secure by 2 screws (access via drivers footwell). Re-connect speedo cable - note access difficult. I found it easier to control the direction and locating byguiding from above the foot pedals and push the speedo cable into place. With a long flat screw driver (12" minimum) place the flat blade to the rear of the white plastic shroud and force firmly towards the \'clock\' panel, the speedo cable should click into place. Fit centre console and secure with screws. Connect dash board dimmer switch and choke mechanism into place. Re-fit drivers side outer panel into place - make electrical connections and secure panel into place. Re-position and secure fuse box into place - in front of bonnet release handle. Re-fit final air duct under steering column. Re-fit centre panel into console and make good all connections. Re-fit glove box - remember to secure outer dash cover first then vanity light/door keep prior to securing door into place. Re-fit gear lever gaitor and secure into place in the centre console. Re-fit rear console panel with switch connections. Re-install seats. Re-fit shroud around steering column. Finally re-fit steering wheel and horn centre panel. Re-connect battery and away you go. There wasn\'t that easy! - phew.
As for the thread, Hints on exchanging Dash Board? Hope this helps you out Spoddy Cliff
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Post by: spoddy on July 29, 2011, 10:55:08 PM
john barnes...now there was a legend of a footballer and ian st john too, liverpool fc greats. wow that is interesting, the wirral is a nice place isn\'t it. if you bump into them or rafa say hello for me ;)
i suppose it sounds more complicated than it is and its just a case of patience and not rushing through it all. i have smallish hands so if i get my fb and decide to change the interior i should be able to do the job.
i\'ll check out the thread mate.
thanks for the help
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Post by: Ian65 on July 29, 2011, 11:11:14 PM
Quote from: spoddy;779069if you bump into them or rafa say hello for me
has he still got a gaff there then?... thought he just cleared off to inter and that was that.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 29, 2011, 11:15:47 PM
Quote from: spoddy;779069john barnes...now there was a legend of a footballer and ian st john too, liverpool fc greats. wow that is interesting, the wirral is a nice place isn\'t it. if you bump into them or rafa say hello for me ;)
i suppose it sounds more complicated than it is and its just a case of patience and not rushing through it all. i have smallish hands so if i get my fb and decide to change the interior i should be able to do the job.
i\'ll check out the thread mate.
thanks for the help
Seen John Barnes a lot and he\'s a real nice guy, he always waves to kids and speaks to you (not that I have spoken to him) but yes this area is a very nice - we like it as do a lot of other families.
The thread I\'ve added a post to it tonight to bring it forward, I hope you can make sense of it and yes it sounds more complicated than it is but as you say, don\'t rush it :Nono!.
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 29, 2011, 11:22:38 PM
Quote from: Ian65;779073has he still got a gaff there then?... thought he just cleared off to inter and that was that.
Don\'t really know if he still has one here but there\'s plenty of room for him and his money too - a lot of properties around here are rediculously priced (I wouldn\'t be able to afford a garage at some of the houses)
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on July 29, 2011, 11:26:38 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;779030Hey Dave, my eldest lad was in Bournemouth at a friends house and off the trampoline spotted two 7\'s in next doors garage. He\'s got a good eye that boy. Anyway, we went round to have a nose, owned by an elderly fella who\'s had them both for 15 years-not been MOT\'d for 10. Spotless, the both of them. (http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/captainbizzaro/3f326633.jpg) The white one isn\'t an Elford, he just replaced the spoiler, but literally apart from that 100% original. Don\'t know if you have them already but he gave permission to add them anyway as he doesn\'t have a computer.
Must be nice to be able to keep a couple of classic fb\'s in a garage for 10 years plus without batting an eyelid but ooh what a waste :InLove
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Post by: spoddy on July 30, 2011, 12:11:13 AM
there is a man who lives near my town and he has an old ford cortina and one of those older citreon bx cars outside his house rotting away, but won\'t get them trailered to the scrap yard. they make his house an eye sore and i think the family cannot get him to scrap them. cortina rear glass broken rain etc getting in, awful. moral is some people get so attached to cars they cannot let them go, on the road or not. this man has kept these like the first day so someone lucky will inherit them.
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Post by: Skifledanabit on July 30, 2011, 02:08:17 AM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 30, 2011, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: Skifledanabit;779092I want it!
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C235783
It\'s on this Forum somewhere Skifle. Changing hands quick but we know \'nowt bad about it.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 30, 2011, 05:42:39 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;779030Hey Dave, my eldest lad was in Bournemouth at a friends house and off the trampoline spotted two 7\'s in next doors garage. He\'s got a good eye that boy. Anyway, we went round to have a nose, owned by an elderly fella who\'s had them both for 15 years-not been MOT\'d for 10. Spotless, the both of them.
The white one isn\'t an Elford, he just replaced the spoiler, but literally apart from that 100% original. Don\'t know if you have them already but he gave permission to add them anyway as he doesn\'t have a computer.
Magnificent Spot Tim. Both new to the Register. Tell \'Son of the Captain\' he\'s got my grateful thanks......:Thumbs-up
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 02, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
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Post by: spoddy on August 02, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: CHC;779075Don\'t really know if he still has one here but there\'s plenty of room for him and his money too - a lot of properties around here are rediculously priced (I wouldn\'t be able to afford a garage at some of the houses)
bit off thread sorry, but yes rafa has his house in the wirral. his wife loves the area and after the inter milan job she wanted back, put their kids back in school. she wanted him to take a break after the liverpool/inter jobs. he has been offered coaching roles back in spain etc but prefers to live in liverpool. he made more money than most managers with redundancies lol.
that elford turbo looks lovely. i wonder what she is like underneath and how well the turbo/engine have stuck it over the years?
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Post by: Ian65 on August 02, 2011, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: spoddy;779620that elford turbo looks lovely. i wonder what she is like underneath and how well the turbo/engine have stuck it over the years?
here\'s a thread from when this car was put up for sale earlier in the year...
looks like it\'s had a JDM 12at engine in it...... that would put me off it personally.... although it probably wouldn\'t bother others
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Post by: spoddy on August 02, 2011, 08:10:15 PM
so it sold a few months back and is now back for sale? the ad says due to illness, has anyone enquired about it, ie are the rust areas sorted and is the engine ok? after reading about turning the psi down on the original thread i would be a bit anxious about the engine. turbo\'d rotaries don\'t last as long as n/a ones.
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Post by: Ian65 on August 02, 2011, 08:38:18 PM
the condition of the shell / bodywork is the most important thing.... 12a engines are ten a penny and easy to swap
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Post by: spoddy on August 03, 2011, 12:56:43 AM
how do you start a flooded one? just incase i find another fb to go see and its not starting? on the rx8 i pull the fuel pump fuse, clutch in no gas pedal, turn her over for up to 10 secs. she would catch for a bit, smoke. i put the fuse in, you hear the fuel pump, repeat starting procedure and after doing this for a while, eventually she fires up, rough then smoothes out. i got her to run for about 15 secs with no fuel being pumped in cause fuse was out to burn off the fuel, then when fuse back in she eventually started. it took me a few hours as never flooded before, it was the extreme winter as couldn\'t drive her in the snow, battery went down and she flooded. but i eventually got the fuse out/in procedure working. the press gas pedal fully down to cut off the fuel pump didn\'t work.
so whats the fb way?
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Post by: spoddy on August 03, 2011, 01:25:34 AM
back on again... any idea of condition of underneath?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 03, 2011, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: spoddy;779690how do you start a flooded one? just incase i find another fb to go see and its not starting? on the rx8 i pull the fuel pump fuse, clutch in no gas pedal, turn her over for up to 10 secs. she would catch for a bit, smoke. i put the fuse in, you hear the fuel pump, repeat starting procedure and after doing this for a while, eventually she fires up, rough then smoothes out. i got her to run for about 15 secs with no fuel being pumped in cause fuse was out to burn off the fuel, then when fuse back in she eventually started. it took me a few hours as never flooded before, it was the extreme winter as couldn\'t drive her in the snow, battery went down and she flooded. but i eventually got the fuse out/in procedure working. the press gas pedal fully down to cut off the fuel pump didn\'t work.
so whats the fb way?
Most old cars with a manual choke could flood easily.
The cure is to GENTLY floor the accelerator pedal, (Gently so that you don\'t bring in the accelerator pump if you can help it). Then with ignition on, just crank the engine over and over for about ?? 10 seconds or so like you say Spod. It might cough and splutter during this time which means it\'s clearing the over-rich mix out of the cylinders. Then when you\'ve done this a couple of times, give it about half choke and try to start again.
If it still won\'t go, whip plugs out - easy on FB - and into an oven or gas hob replace plugs as hot as possible, but don\'t overtighten because of alloy block (13 ft lb). If an engine been standing for months or something like that, then use a squirt of \'Aerostart\' straight down the carb (Again easy on FB non-turbo). Then try to start normally on half choke.
If it\'s been standing years you should go through a lubrication process first - turning over without the rotor arm to circulate the oil.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 03, 2011, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: spoddy;779691back on again... any idea of condition of underneath?
Only saw it for the first time last month. (I would like it\'s Reg No. if you ask for any pics).
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Post by: Ian65 on August 03, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
Quote from: David Nock;779756If it still won\'t go, whip plugs out - easy on FB - and into an oven or gas hob replace plugs as hot as possible, but don\'t overtighten because of alloy block (13 ft lb).
With the plugs out, I pull the fuel pump fuse then spin the engine over a good few times to blow the excess fuel out of the chambers.... otherwise the plugs just get soaked again and you\'re back to square 1.
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Post by: spoddy on August 03, 2011, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: Ian65;779758With the plugs out, I pull the fuel pump fuse then spin the engine over a good few times to blow the excess fuel out of the chambers.... otherwise the plugs just get soaked again and you\'re back to square 1.
i\'ve heated up the plug on a petrol strimmer as she was a basket to get started after been left a few years lyin at the back of the garage.
i was just wondering, as was at a loss as to how to start the fb i went to see, knowing nothing about the older engines, choke etc. i had thought about taking the plugs out and heating them, but hadn\'t time nor equipment to do it, its good advice to spin over the engine to drive the excess fuel out, would leaving the plugs out for a few hours also help the fuel evaporate without needing to turn her over?
RAC man showed me that start ya bas\'tard spray, oz equivlent of easy start spray, i thought it was just a joke but he likes to get a laugh out of people when he shows them it as they\'re usually depressed when broken down etc.
thanks for the advice guys will note it if i ever get an fb.
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Post by: 12at on August 04, 2011, 09:32:16 PM
ive finally got my newly ported and built engine back in my FB with its new injectors and ecu setup.. Hope to get it MOT\'d and back on the road soonish depending on work..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 05, 2011, 12:27:59 PM
Great Stuff, let us know how you get on. Be good to move The Bullet back into \'Roadgoing\'.......:Typing
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Post by: 12at on August 05, 2011, 12:42:00 PM
yeh will be good to get it on the road and hopefully laying some :burnout again :)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 06, 2011, 12:21:20 PM
Note the tow bar at the back , don\'t think I\'ve seen one fo those before.
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Post by: shaunwil on August 28, 2011, 01:39:47 PM
Quote from: David Nock;785027Red S3 for Spares in Epsom. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-MAZDA-RX7-2-RED-spares-/200646193715?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2eb771f233#ht_1729wt_1117
Can somebody explain to me the mentality of some morons ? Why the hell if its too good just to scrap with a good condition body would you condemn the car by lifting it up with a crane by its roof. The stupidity completely baffles me, what planet are they from ?
Looks like it was a very usable car and probably went for a steal. Could have a good axle for Casey and the interior looks in good condition !
Just completely baffled by it, turned my pc on just to rant :confused::confused::confused:
Shaun
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 28, 2011, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;785036Note the tow bar at the back , don\'t think I\'ve seen one fo those before.
Handy for a trailer for camping or to the dump-it.
Or to pull another half car like that green dutch one.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 30, 2011, 05:39:47 PM
Black S3 in Galway:
http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/2466746
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Post by: HaywardRotary on August 31, 2011, 09:30:47 AM
Hi Dave, Do you have any info on VRY 792X? Regards Carl
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Post by: johnnyboy on August 31, 2011, 09:56:48 AM
Hi Dave.
The above reminded me... The chap I bought my refurbed Elford wheels from said they came off EDF 150 Y four years ago - and he would like to know if it is still running.
Apparently it wasn\'t an Elford (other than the wheels...) but was in very good condition when he last saw it so it should be around somewhere.
To confuse the trail, he had it on a private plate of "32 R" (that must be worth some money...) and EDF was the replacement Reg. when he took 32 R off to sell it.
If you have any info I will e-mail it on to him - I gave him details "our" two forums, and he looked very wistful at the mention of Fb\'s, so we might get him back from the dark side yet...
John
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 31, 2011, 06:41:31 PM
Quote from: HaywardRotary;785551Hi Dave, Do you have any info on VRY 792X? Regards Carl
Sorry Carl, nothing on it - DVLA say it\'s a 1982 car, Unlicensed since 1995. If you can tell me sometime where you\'ve seen it I\'d appreciate that.
Meanwhile I\'ll enter it as a possible \'off the road\' S2.
Dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 31, 2011, 06:48:16 PM
Quote from: johnnyboy;785560Hi Dave.
The above reminded me... The chap I bought my refurbed Elford wheels from said they came off EDF 150 Y four years ago - and he would like to know if it is still running.
Apparently it wasn\'t an Elford (other than the wheels...) but was in very good condition when he last saw it so it should be around somewhere.
To confuse the trail, he had it on a private plate of "32 R" (that must be worth some money...) and EDF was the replacement Reg. when he took 32 R off to sell it.
If you have any info I will e-mail it on to him - I gave him details "our" two forums, and he looked very wistful at the mention of Fb\'s, so we might get him back from the dark side yet...
John
Yes we know this car and I believe it\'s up and running in Northants. It was initially on one of the Forums as a drift car with lowered springs; then a year ago (Aug 10) it was sold again and I think it appeared here on MRC.
It has a smart set of Black Wheels.
I\'ll tag that Private Plate to it as well now we know it once used to wear it.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 31, 2011, 07:12:03 PM
I must admit she looks just as good as he said she did! Absolutely perfect,
Thanks again.
John
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Post by: RX7SA on September 13, 2011, 03:46:42 PM
Hello Dave,
My name is Simon and I am RX7SA on here. I have bought car GTB 744V from Rotechniks and plan to restore her. DO you have any info on her at all? Would be interesting to find some history out hey ;) Do you need anymore info from me about the car for the register? Great Job with this by the way. From what I can gather here she is an early car, 1979 first registered and has had S2 bumpers and spoiler fitted in place of the original bumpers? Also when I looked her over she has had a 13B conversion (from previous owner I guess) not the original 12a. Thanks, Simon
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Post by: A7RXY on September 13, 2011, 03:50:14 PM
Hi Simon and wellcome. Dave is on hols at present, but I\'m sure he will get back to you when he returns.
Diba
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Post by: Ian65 on September 13, 2011, 05:19:48 PM
There are a few more photos of your car here...
http://www.rx7fb.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12
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Post by: daverey on September 15, 2011, 10:55:20 PM
Mazda RX7 TWR FB 1984 JDM 12A turbo breaking all parts available on ebay listing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX7-TWR-FB-SA22C-1984-JDM-12A-turbo-breaking-all-parts-available-/250892948287?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6a62933f
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 19, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
Hi Simon, here\'s the same pics of your car on 1 page.
The first sighting was when it was in the container. Looks like a very interesting project, especially if it\'s already got a 13B conversion.
Quote from: Ian65;731766Anyone fancy a winter project? These 1st gens have just been listed for sale…
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 23, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
And in Dublin.....hasn\'t this done well for itself?
http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/2522355
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Post by: Ian65 on September 23, 2011, 02:58:30 PM
Quote from: David Nock;790040And in Dublin.....hasn\'t this done well for itself?
http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/2522355
it hung around like a bad smell when it was over here
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Post by: johnnyboy on September 26, 2011, 10:08:13 AM
(the title should have said at RX Motors, but I can\'t change it....)
See this: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAZDA-RX7-ELFORD-1984-/220862648850?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item336c709212 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAZDA-RX7-ELFORD-1984-/220862648850?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item336c709212)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on September 26, 2011, 02:53:12 PM
Quote from: David Nock;790590http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49809
Hmmm.
off the road for the last 15 years.....no mot .... £1500... :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin
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Post by: shaunwil on September 26, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
All depends on mileage and lack of rust. May not be a crazy value, but only on something without rust in all the common places.
Shaun
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on September 26, 2011, 09:42:52 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;790720All depends on mileage and lack of rust. May not be a crazy value, but only on something without rust in all the common places.
Shaun
I\'d rather take the Elford for a grand Shaun.... a better, more collectable car and mot\'d ... and from a trusted seller
This silver car might be worth the money with an mot but 15 years is a long time for it to be stood about.... it\'s gonna need a lot of love and attention.
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Post by: mpk490p on September 27, 2011, 08:19:44 AM
just nice to see more cars appearing! if it is totally original and shows no signs of rust £1500 sounds about right WITH a mot i don\'t know about you but it would be nice to start seeing more value on these cars.............might want to sell mine one day!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on September 28, 2011, 07:13:21 PM
Silver S3 on ebay. Located on border of West and South Yorks. I have met the seller and his lady Debbie and he\'s a good guy. I think it\'s her car.
i love the interior of this car, its a nice colour of red too. i wonder if this interior can be picked up somewhere, if/when i get an fb i\'d like it installed and reckon it\'d suit a red, white, silver or black car.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 05, 2011, 11:43:59 AM
It\'s the standard interior for the Renaissance Red S2 Spod.
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Post by: 12at on October 05, 2011, 10:34:05 PM
if anyones interested in a silver s3 im thinking about selling off everything.. let me know..
Car will be complete less motor, gearbox, tailshaft, intercooler etc.. Or can include for price..
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 09, 2011, 05:53:41 PM
Quote from: David Nock;791075Silver S3 on ebay. Located on border of West and South Yorks. I have met the seller and his lady Debbie and he\'s a good guy. I think it\'s her car.
This silver S3 looked in fair condition to me yet got no bids at £400 bid start. That\'s sad.
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Post by: Casey on October 09, 2011, 05:59:07 PM
Quote from: David Nock;792939This silver S3 looked in fair condition to me yet got no bids at £400 bid start. That\'s sad.
I agree, very sad to see no bids on this :(
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Post by: spoddy on October 09, 2011, 07:25:25 PM
i would be interested if the car is in good condition underneath, enough to pass its MOT. also its trailering it home to n.ireland, how much would it be etc.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 10, 2011, 12:51:31 PM
Pics of the underside? Will they put it through an MOT over here first? - Price would then have to include the benefit of an MOT.
Trailer cost? Don\'t know. Why not put a question in the General Forum on here? Someone will know.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 11, 2011, 05:43:17 PM
The R C Woods car (Silver S2) from Hounslow.....now on Pistonheads and ebay, this time in Coulsden. Same seller though.
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3317137.htm
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Post by: DeanRX7 on October 13, 2011, 10:55:17 PM
I have been looking for a 1985, blue S3, with the grey interior for a while now, seems they are getting harder to find!
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Skifledanabit on October 14, 2011, 02:04:00 AM
like this...?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3208554.htm
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 14, 2011, 12:55:13 PM
I believe the one on Pistonheads has had professional welding done by the seller (who seems to be a restorer).
There is a very interesting Blue S3 in Tim White\'s place Rx Motors in Blandford Forum Dorset. 57,000 miles or so, also interesting reg. - this is included?.... Top Price but Tim is known on here for fair dealing.
I can also tell you of a delivery miles only (49) Tender Blue S3 for sale in Scotland. The seller is not partial to casual contact so you would need to be deadly serious and it\'s absolutely top money. I guess it\'s the only one left unused but it was registered in 1985. If you are really serious and can afford a really big purchase I could put you in touch. But please be serious.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 14, 2011, 01:04:22 PM
I am not putting any figures to either Tim White\'s Blue S3 or the Scots one. Let them do that. But think of a price on here for a Concourse S3 - if you could find one - and then add a bit more for Tim\'s car. Then multiply by 4 or 5 for the Scots Car.
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Post by: drtool on October 19, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
You wanna take A213XGK off the list Dave? If it ever was on the list.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 20, 2011, 12:48:29 PM
Yes thanks Tool, will do.
It was in the \'Probably going to be Scrunched\' file......now it\'s in the \'Gone but not Forgotten\' section.
Dave
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Asiapinball on October 21, 2011, 12:04:49 AM
David,
A couple more 1st gens for your list:
B347KCU. Red 1st gen. series 3. I owned this car from 1995 to 1998 and took it to an RX7OC meeting at Brooklands around that time. I think it was the first year the RX7OC went to Brooklands. Sold it to Roteknics when I moved overseas in 1998 and from DVLA looks like it was on the road until 2002. The condition was excellent (but not mint). I had a moonroof for it which I passed on to another RX7OC member from Leicester, whom I met at Brooklands. His car was mint, A reg, red, always garaged, meticulously cared for, never used in the winter and almost certainly still mint if he still has it. Possibly Number 46 on the list?
Second car is B80YUU. 1st generation, series 3, red, belongs to a friend of mine since 1990 (I drove him to pick it up when he first bought it). I\'ve not seen the car in 15 years, but it has always been dry stored and little used, so low mileage. Currently dry stored in the West Midlands.
Paul
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 22, 2011, 12:22:41 PM
Hi Paul. Thanks Mate, KCU and YUU duly noted. New Reg Nos to me. It seems KCU might be a gonna (from DVLA) so I\'ve noted it as probably lost - gone to the scrapman.
Now the Leicester car.....yes I\'ve known that car for years, seen it once in Llandudno of all places....I know it as a multiple prize winner and I know it is only roadgoing in the summer months. But I\'ve never seen the owners post anything to the net so presume they\'re not computer people. I would guess they still own the car. They had a Tender Blue one as well but that is export flagged.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Ian65 on October 22, 2011, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: drtool;795351You wanna take A213XGK off the list Dave? If it ever was on the list.
JDM 12at... r.i.p
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Asiapinball on October 23, 2011, 10:58:53 AM
Dave,
Another one for you. The S2 drift car that went on ebay yesterday was reg number USSfiftyoneS (nice plate). According to the DVLA off the road since 1994. I went to see it, it was very sound underneath and the engine was very sweet, but a little too un-original for me.
I\'m in the market for a 1st generation, preferably series 3 and preferably red, but condition and lack of rust underneath is probably more important. I do my own work on cars, so don\'t mind something that needs fettling over the winter.
I was trying to see the 34,000 mile s2 in London (YOI) that was on ebay, but the seller didn\'t answer and withdrew the auction soon after I asked to see it - shame, maybe it sold privately.
The red S3 with the stripe in Norwich looks lovely, but expect it is little bit beyond my wife\'s budget. Maybe a very large christmas for her this year or some truth stretching about price would get it for me :)
Paul
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Post by: Ian65 on October 23, 2011, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Asiapinball;795780Dave,
I\'m in the market for a 1st generation, preferably series 3 and preferably red, but condition and lack of rust underneath is probably more important. I do my own work on cars, so don\'t mind something that needs fettling over the winter.
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Post by: Asiapinball on October 23, 2011, 11:23:25 PM
Quote from: Ian65;795807here you are Paul.... a red S3
.
Ian,
Thanks for pointing this one out - I had not found the "for sale" area of the web site, so had missed it completely :3Confused. Earlier today I agreed to buy a 1st gen series 3 with absolutely no rot (but needs fettling), subject to the current owner putting a 12 month MOT on it. If it falls through, I will be straight in touch with Fernando for a look at the red TWR.
I will post what I have bought once it is in my garage.
Paul
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 24, 2011, 01:38:34 PM
Quote from: Asiapinball;795893Ian,
I will post what I have bought once it is in my garage.
Paul
Yes please, can\'t wait....:Typing
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on October 31, 2011, 06:17:49 PM
White S3 in Staffs (from ebay a year or so back, same seller).
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Post by: Ian.Mothersole on November 11, 2011, 12:13:35 PM
That looks good... Have you been to see it?
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Post by: Casey on November 11, 2011, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: Ian.Mothersole;798406That looks good... Have you been to see it?
No, if I went to see it, I\'d probably end up buying it, then find I\'ve got noweher to put it :Giggle
If you were thinking of buying it I\'d happily go along with you to take a look though! The issue is purely one of storage space and cost. If it was in good nick and could be dry stored somewhere it would be a bargain, especially as it\'s a very local seller. Hopefully, we might find a club member who could trailer it for a small fee.....
Look what you\'ve done, you\'ve got me thinking about it already; must purge from my mind................. :Giggle
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Post by: seanp on November 11, 2011, 03:11:38 PM
Tempting, very tempting (so are most of the others which come up here)... Thinking we need to rent on some lock-ups...
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Post by: Ian.Mothersole on November 11, 2011, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: Casey;798408No, if I went to see it, I\'d probably end up buying it, then find I\'ve got noweher to put it :Giggle
If you were thinking of buying it I\'d happily go along with you to take a look though!....
it would be a fantastic upgrade to my everyday car :evillaugh However there are two problems, I dont have anywhere dry to keep it (you\'ve seen my drive way / garden arrangement), and Jackie would actually kill me! (the amount Ive spent on the RX8 recently hasn\'t gone down well :Hammer)
Quote from: Casey;798408Look what you\'ve done, you\'ve got me thinking about it already; must purge from my mind................. :Giggle
sorry...:Giggle
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Post by: A7RXY on November 12, 2011, 06:42:16 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 13, 2011, 12:10:58 PM
Thanks Clarky....it was spotted heading Brighton way Sunday before last. I figured it had got a new home there.
That\'s another beauty of keeping a register.....you learn about strange foreign sounding places, far away. .....Like \'Betchworth\' . Google says that\'s near a strange oriental sounding town.....\'Door-King\' or somesuch it was......:Giggle
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 13, 2011, 12:22:38 PM
Latest Stats I\'ve got of 1st Gens running on the road or active Rallying/Track..... The number in brackets is the number other of cars laid up, SORNed etc.
Series 1......6 running, (26)
Series 2.....30 running, (64)
Series 3.....52 running, (127)
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Casey on December 13, 2011, 12:29:51 PM
Dave, have you got Kimi down as an S2 (drivetrain) or S3 (body) in your stats? Maybe you need an Series 2.5 :D
Seriously, I\'m guessing Series 2 as she was originally 1983 and registered as such?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 13, 2011, 02:12:08 PM
Kimi is down as S2 Malc. The Reg fits neatly into there as you say. (Slots in between Capt Bizarro\'s Gold Machine and Tim White\'s Purple dragster)
And noted as a good little runner, ownership of \'The RPM - Casey\'.
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Post by: Clarky on December 13, 2011, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: David Nock;802378Thanks Clarky....it was spotted heading Brighton way Sunday before last. I figured it had got a new home there.
That\'s another beauty of keeping a register.....you learn about strange foreign sounding places, far away. .....Like \'Betchworth\' . Google says that\'s near a strange oriental sounding town.....\'Door-King\' or somesuch it was......:Giggle
Your welcome, very sad to see it go it was in great condition, apart from a few bits that needed doing. Just could not find the time to put in on it. :(
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Post by: Casey on December 13, 2011, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: David Nock;802401.......Slots in between Capt Bizarro\'s Gold Machine and Tim White\'s Purple dragster............
Ooooooooooh, what an honour :god
Thanks Dave :)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 28, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
Pale Blue S2 in Leicester.....No Engine or Rad though.
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Post by: daverey on December 28, 2011, 09:33:29 PM
David Think this may be a new one for your list. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-MAZDA-RX7-2-BLACK-SILVER-IDEAL-PROJECT-CAR-/300642710065?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item45ffb3b231 If anyone wants more photo etc let me know as it is local to me. Dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on December 29, 2011, 12:09:01 PM
Thanks Dave, It is a new one.
I was in 2 minds....is it to go in \'SORNed and other cars laid up\' or into \'Probably to go for Parts\'. In the end I put it into SORNed.
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: clive on December 31, 2011, 05:43:55 PM
Searching for something yesterday and found this car (C979 RMV) that came from Medway in Kent
Always liked this car a lot and at the time was 100% origonal apart from those fog lamps
Any ideas if it\'s still around ??
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Post by: gnj37 on December 31, 2011, 05:54:50 PM
Happy new year everybody
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 01, 2012, 01:00:07 PM
Happy New Year to you Gary. How\'s the 13B coming on?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 01, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: clive;804433Searching for something yesterday and found this car (C979 RMV) that came from Medway in Kent
Always liked this car a lot and at the time was 100% origonal apart from those fog lamps
Any ideas if it\'s still around ??
I guess it is Clive, as it is SORNed every time I check. Presently SORNed to autumn 2012.
It first appeared at Gaydon Show in 2002, then it was at Medway Show in 2010. I don\'t know who owns it though or where exactly it lives. I\'ve got it down as Kent Area with question marks..??
I\'ve noted that those bold side flashes were missing from the car last time out.
Dave
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Post by: gnj37 on January 03, 2012, 05:51:53 PM
Sorry for slow return 13b on the button car pretty much A OK now iam Working at rally car at moment so mazda is in a nice dry airy garage and as safe as houses waiting to give her a good dose of wax oil before mot
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 04, 2012, 01:04:44 PM
On Ebay today, Metallic Green S3 in Milton Keynes.
Looks like a reasonable car, except will screen have to come out I wonder? Was on ebay in Essex last Summer.
£1200! Are prices rising, or are they being a little too optimistic :)
Apart from the rust on the scuttle, it looks quite clean and tidy. I do wonder what the rust is like underneath though, given the scuttle rust, but they say ot passed an MOT...............
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Post by: shaunwil on January 04, 2012, 05:33:49 PM
Gone up to 1750 now on buy it now !
Like the Orange 323 turbo linked at the bottom, quite near to me too !
Shaun
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 04, 2012, 05:56:21 PM
I shouldn\'t have said it\'s a reasonable looking car then? Is someone piking our posts?
Dear Seller It\'s not £1750 worth of reasonableness with that scuttle problem.
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Post by: seanp on January 04, 2012, 05:58:48 PM
Offer £500? :-)
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Post by: shaunwil on January 04, 2012, 06:30:33 PM
See if it sells, at least will prove values may be on the rise !
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Post by: Ian65 on January 04, 2012, 07:44:27 PM
Quote from: shaunwil;804946See if it sells, at least will prove values may be on the rise !
or that someone still hasn\'t sobered up from christmas....
Title: Re: How Many 1st Gens Still Running?
Post by: Asiapinball on January 18, 2012, 12:22:28 AM
David,
As promised back in October, I said I would let you know when I had an RX7 in my garage. I bought the silver one that didn\'t sell on ebay in October:
It\'s now taxed and tested so on the road. Still needs some fettling, but plenty of time for that over the winter. Registration is B one seven six HTO, for updating your list (location is near Hexham, Northumberland). I suppose it will get nicknamed "HOT". It has the maroon interior, so is very "retro". I wasn\'t keen on the interior colour at first, but now I really like it. I have a snag list of 28 items and managed to cross 4 off at the weekend. Still lots to do, but I like things working and looking as they should.
I need a front bumper if anybody has any leads (preferably in silver). The current one could be repaired, but it is probably easier to just replace. Also need a rear washer resevoir bag as the old one got split over the weekend when temperatures here got below minus 5 and froze and split the bag (but I won\'t be paying 25 quid for the one currently on ebay!).
The car came with a load of spares - I had to make a second trip in a bigger car to pick them all up. Unfortunately it didn\'t have a moonroof stashed in the boot but at least the fuel tank wa replaced just a few years ago!
Paul
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Post by: Asiapinball on January 18, 2012, 12:24:46 AM
I didn\'t pay anywhere near as much as £1,750 for it, so I don\'t think prices have gone up!
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Post by: Casey on January 18, 2012, 08:51:31 AM
Asiapinball - excellent, great to see you putting another Gen1 back to running fittness. Keep us posted on progress, with some pictures too :)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 18, 2012, 11:57:31 AM
Quote from: Asiapinball;807880David,
As promised back in October, I said I would let you know when I had an RX7 in my garage. I bought the silver one that didn\'t sell on ebay in October:
Hi Paul. HTO was quite near me and I sold Dai and Debbie some plugs. They came to my house but didn\'t bring \'Hottie\' so I\'ve never seen it. They are nice people too.
Thanks for the update mate and if we can help just ask.
Latest Breaking List attached, although not seen much activity for breaking lately.
Dave
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Post by: Asiapinball on January 18, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
Dave,
Yes, Dai and Debs were great to deal with - really nice people and we did a deal that worked for both sides. Dai did the work needed and put the car through the MOT before I picked it up.
Casey,
I will try to post some pics of "Hottie" as is now and then once again in a few months when tidied up.
I\'m pleased to have got a sound, original, low mileage (66,000m) car with little rust and a recent new fuel tank, failure of which now seems to be the main issue in keeping 1st gens on the road.
Paul
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on January 22, 2012, 01:05:21 PM
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Post by: Will66 on February 10, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
That one is not far from me, I\'m not in the market for one but if anyone is interested and wants someone with about 1/3 of an idea about these cars to have a look drop me a PM.
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Post by: Sukhoi_Flagon on February 10, 2012, 05:03:31 PM
Pulled off ebay - anyone on here go get it?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 19, 2012, 06:42:48 PM
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Post by: spoddy on February 19, 2012, 10:49:48 PM
i really like that white fb in jimmys, its just too far away for me :( really hate it, all these fb\'s being so far away from me and me the money to buy them :(
was wondering why only £950, mileage on engine?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 20, 2012, 09:51:04 AM
\'Tis a fair price right enough. I\'d have those black S3 wheels off and some normal S3 alloys on very quickly though. They should be easy to find.
It\'s not the engine miles Spod, because it says engine changed. And that\'s right enough because I know a little fragment of it\'s history.
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Post by: B.Martin on February 20, 2012, 10:03:50 AM
I spotted one in the corner of someones garden near the Limassol port last week, looked pretty mint my \'rotary nose\' sniffed it out. If i could get a picture you\'d be impressed with me spotting it! If i\'m down that way i\'ll try and get a pic for you all, i know its no good to you over here but thats 2 i know of in Limassol now.
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Post by: RotorHeid on February 20, 2012, 10:17:34 PM
C957 BKM>>>>> still alive,looking well and Braping alone in Aberdeenshire
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 21, 2012, 11:43:21 AM
Quote from: B.Martin;813004I spotted one in the corner of someones garden near the Limassol port last week, looked pretty mint my \'rotary nose\' sniffed it out. If i could get a picture you\'d be impressed with me spotting it! If i\'m down that way i\'ll try and get a pic for you all, i know its no good to you over here but thats 2 i know of in Limassol now.
Yes well impressed. All great stuff and pics would be great to see. See if you can see if it\'s RHD. Might be an ex-pat\'s car from here?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 21, 2012, 11:46:14 AM
Quote from: RotorHeid;813103C957 BKM>>>>> still alive,looking well and Braping alone in Aberdeenshire
Yes, Thanks for that.....:Thumbs-up I moved it on my register last week from Ross Shire to Aberdeenshire. Is it yours \'cos I don\'t know who own\'s it?
Dave
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Post by: RotorHeid on February 21, 2012, 03:19:22 PM
I wish but no cos it\'s got sunroof...I remember that car from ross shire and been laying ootside for years.
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Post by: B.Martin on February 21, 2012, 03:40:03 PM
Quote from: David Nock;813154Yes well impressed. All great stuff and pics would be great to see. See if you can see if it\'s RHD. Might be an ex-pat\'s car from here?
i\'ll have a ganders next time i\'m over there :)
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Post by: 12at on February 25, 2012, 01:18:06 PM
over the next month ill be getting mine to sell - car will be sold as a roller with no motor or box / fuel setup. if anyones interested in it let me know bo0557 @ gmail.com
To get running it will need fuel pump, tailshaft, gearbox and motor.
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Post by: B.Martin on February 27, 2012, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: David Nock;813154Yes well impressed. All great stuff and pics would be great to see. See if you can see if it\'s RHD. Might be an ex-pat\'s car from here?
As requested, can\'t do much better as its behind a fence. Most jap cars here are imports, but that\'s not to say this isn\'t originally from the uk.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 27, 2012, 01:29:59 PM
Good spotting all the same. Not likely to be ex UK car because of the colour?
Looks Purple/Aubergine sort of colour? Or is it Black with the sunlight on it?
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Post by: B.Martin on February 27, 2012, 09:13:02 PM
To be honest I thought it was black but up close it\'s kinda purple, don\'t know if you can tell but shes missing the front wheels! Definitely needs some tlc but the shell looks in good condition.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 04, 2012, 10:56:42 AM
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Post by: mooragerx7 on March 15, 2012, 07:34:18 PM
you can now add A89VUW to the list of cars on the road:burnout
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 16, 2012, 11:58:44 AM
Great Stuff Michael.
Duly moved into the list of Roadgoing cars and thanks very much for the update.
Dave
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Post by: A7RXY on March 16, 2012, 01:14:49 PM
Mine goes for its MOT tomorrow and will be taxed from April ..........:driving
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Post by: A7RXY on March 17, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
MTO passed, roll on 1st April for the tax to start ...........:3gears-lh
Dibs
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Post by: mpk490p on March 20, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
always nice to hear another MOT passed!, well done
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Post by: HaywardRotary on March 20, 2012, 04:03:57 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;816320MTO passed, roll on 1st April for the tax to start ...........:3gears-lh
Dibs
don\'t be fooled!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 20, 2012, 05:49:14 PM
Great Stuff Dibs. Nice dry days ahead.
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Post by: Dan Dillinger on March 21, 2012, 09:24:50 PM
I use my Sa22 daily
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 22, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
Quote from: Dan Dillinger;816920I use my Sa22 daily
Hi Dan, seen your last few posts about your 1st Gen and I\'ve wondered.
I\'ve only got one 1st Gen in Edinburgh area.....a blue Series 2 with an Elford. Would that be you?
UK \'SA\'s\' are nearly always Series 1\'s though......uber rare on the road. (Though the very first UK Series 2\'s were also \'SA\' until \'FB\' came into the VIN plate around 1981).
If the blue S2 is not you then would you be able to PM me with your Reg and colour for my register?
Hope So......Dave.
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Post by: Dan Dillinger on March 22, 2012, 12:17:38 PM
My car is a import 1982 SA22..
I\'m sure it\'s a SA22? Maybe a FB?
I\'ll post up photos soon!
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Post by: RotorHeid on March 22, 2012, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: Dan Dillinger;816989My car is a import 1982 SA22..
I\'m sure it\'s a SA22? Maybe a FB?
I\'ll post up photos soon!
red one withoot sunroof and mirrors on the wings ;)
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 22, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
Ah Yes, I think I know it now......the Reg Numbers added up together makes 14?
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Post by: Dan Dillinger on March 22, 2012, 12:51:04 PM
Thats it!
I\'ve been slowly cleaning it up, i\'ve fitted 15" SSR MK1 wheels and dropped it. Also had a full exhaust system made up for it too and fitted the right sized plates!
Really enjoying it!
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on March 22, 2012, 05:15:05 PM
It looks fabulous in the other post Dan.
I think it will be an SA22c not an FB because it\'s an import car. As said above, the UK cars became FB\'s around 1981 but I don\'t think Japan or US reg cars did that.
The first few letters of the VIN will have SA22C in it. UK cars (after some time in 1981) start JMZFBxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Post by: teejay on April 04, 2012, 09:36:43 AM
Do any of you know the whereabouts of this RX7 Reg RYE 992. It was stolen and sold last June whilst we were living overseas.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 04, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
See separate post re RYE 992Y. Stolen.
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Post by: DB RX63 on April 04, 2012, 07:33:02 PM
Righto chaps, my Elford Turbo has been in storage for the last 7 years now, the photo was taken before we went to work overseas, so she does not look quite as clean and shiny now but is still in good condition. I am getting her on the road for the summer and hope to make Brooklands later in the month.
In the meantime I am planning to work my way through replacement of all running gear before she has an engine and turbo rebuild and respray.
Having had one RX stolen, I am reluctant to post the reg no, but I will let David know for his listings.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on April 05, 2012, 12:35:40 PM
Thanks DB.
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Post by: A7RXY on April 05, 2012, 05:48:01 PM
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on May 30, 2012, 05:10:56 PM
Low Mileage White S3 in Warwickshire::
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3948600.htm
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 06, 2012, 01:01:00 PM
Latest Sales Info:
A Blue S2 has just sold for £310 on ebay, as has a Black S3. They both wanted quite a bit of resto work.
Bargain of the year in my opinion was a Blue S3 with slight front end collision damage. i.e. bust-up bumper and nose, creased front wing and popped out popup headlight. Chassis rails and front end rust looked good.A real easy fix looking at the pics. It went for £540 again on ebay, .....a nice looking unmolested car.
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Post by: A7RXY on July 06, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
Dave Bargin or what, you are so right I was hoping Ben would have got that one, as it would have been a great project car.
dibs
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 08, 2012, 05:49:17 PM
This was a fairly ordinary but down at heel Silver S2 last Autumn.
It was on a used car lot in Hounslow for some time. Look at it now!>>>>>
http://pistonheads.com/sales/4046623.htm
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Post by: shaunwil on July 08, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
There is a good write up about the work by a member of FDUK.
Shaun
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Post by: A7RXY on August 03, 2012, 06:51:48 PM
looks clean, thou the gear stick seems to be at a funny angle.
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Post by: ridgeracer on August 03, 2012, 08:25:01 PM
Hey guys, just wondering do you check carandclassic.co.uk and the like? I see a few on them sorta sites every few months.
Also while I remember, I spotted an FB in my area last week - Torbay area. Can\'t remember plate (useless) but I\'m sure it were a C reg. Black with Bronze Volk TE37-style wheels and REALLY Old-skool RE-Amemiya stickers. Also an MRC windshield banner.
Sorry if that\'s in the wrong place - couldn\'t find a \'spotted\' thread & this one is about those that are running... This one was definitely running :)
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Post by: shaunwil on August 03, 2012, 10:30:45 PM
Quote from: A7RXY;831478looks clean, thou the gear stick seems to be at a funny angle.
Looks a very clean example, would love to see photos of underneath.
Shaun
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Quote from: shaunwil;831516Because its in reverse :Giggle
Looks a very clean example, would love to see photos of underneath.
Shaun
X2 to both....... Dibs, C\'mmon get a grip.:3gears-rh
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 04, 2012, 11:02:37 AM
Quote from: ridgeracer;831504Hey guys, just wondering do you check carandclassic.co.uk and the like? I see a few on them sorta sites every few months.
Also while I remember, I spotted an FB in my area last week - Torbay area. Can\'t remember plate (useless) but I\'m sure it were a C reg. Black with Bronze Volk TE37-style wheels and REALLY Old-skool RE-Amemiya stickers. Also an MRC windshield banner.
Sorry if that\'s in the wrong place - couldn\'t find a \'spotted\' thread & this one is about those that are running... This one was definitely running :)
Couple of candidates, but a black \'C\' plate was sold in Wiltshire recently. Body Kit and Black-Looking Spoked wheels.....?? Of course the South Coast in summer could have visitors from far away.....
We look out for Pistonheads, Donedeal.ie, Car & Classic, Classic Cars, Gumtree and of course ebay (but forget to check \'em all every time). So any spots very gratefully received.
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Post by: A7RXY on August 04, 2012, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: David Nock;831531X2 to both....... Dibs, C\'mmon get a grip.:3gears-rh
OK give me a break ......... all my other cars have reverse top RH corner ............. any way who would leave a car in gear let alone reverse, unless no handbrake .............:Snoring
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 07, 2012, 06:36:13 PM
Do you have this one David, I forgot the reg, will get it. But someone may remember it.
Both are availible to purchase, and I would love to see them go to be restored. :(. Not put in the crusher. They were bought as part of a deal.
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Post by: captainbizzaro on August 07, 2012, 06:54:41 PM
Where are they
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Post by: ridgeracer on August 07, 2012, 06:55:43 PM
Damn... I wont have funds for a few months but if i did, id be getting hold of one :/ i reckon the moment i get the cash, there\'ll be none around!vlol
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 07, 2012, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: captainbizzaro;831982Where are they
Wiltshire, pm me if your interested. I can\'t confirm condition. But will have a better look tomorrow.
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 07, 2012, 07:02:30 PM
For the right price you can have Steve in the picture too
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 07, 2012, 07:14:30 PM
2 Series 1\'s eh? I\'ll check \'em out on Register tomorrow. I think I\'ll need the Reg of the top one though, I don\'t recognise it immediately.
I think I\'ll leave Steve, even though he could be a bargain!
Thanks for the post. Dave
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Post by: captainbizzaro on August 07, 2012, 07:16:19 PM
Quote from: TRIND-FD;831986For the right price you can have Steve in the picture too
Sold, anyone who dry humps an S1 is good in my book.:bandit
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Post by: mpk490p on August 07, 2012, 07:21:20 PM
is that a turbo sticker on the second one?
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 08, 2012, 05:54:09 PM
Quote from: David Nock;8319912 Series 1\'s eh? I\'ll check \'em out on Register tomorrow. I think I\'ll need the Reg of the top one though, I don\'t recognise it immediately.
Dave
It turns out they\'re both new spots. Great stuff.
Even though there\'s no Reg for the top one I would have noted a big Orange Thingummy (not Steve) on the Bonnet if it had been seen before.
As said, many thanks again.
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 08, 2012, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: David Nock;832177It turns out they\'re both new spots. Great stuff.
Even though there\'s no Reg for the top one I would have noted a big Orange Thingummy (not Steve) on the Bonnet if it had been seen before.
As said, many thanks again.
Ha ha, reckon if I painted Steve orange , he would match the bonnet Any way as promised david
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 08, 2012, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: mpk490p;831995is that a turbo sticker on the second one?
It is, but don\'t think it\'s a turbo motor
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 08, 2012, 06:36:59 PM
Many thanks again........
Who\'s \'Merv Hannam Ltd\'?
Anyone recognise that boot badge \'cos I don\'t know who it is?
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 08, 2012, 06:50:42 PM
Quote from: David Nock;832186Many thanks again........
Who\'s \'Merv Hannam Ltd\'?
Anyone recognise that boot badge \'cos I don\'t know who it is?
Quick google, I see a Bournemouth car deal established in the 30\'s Guessing it came from there at some point.
Guy was a speedway rider, company still running selling prestige cars
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on August 28, 2012, 05:27:03 PM
Blue body kitted S2 in Durham on ebay today, for repairs to body. Cheap start price.
Sorry no link to ebay but it\'s a known car A171 THM
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 28, 2012, 06:19:22 PM
Will have a reg and pics tonight or tomorrow of a black fb
Been off road since about 21 years ago. Barn stored and started on the button.
Can\'t wait to see it.
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 28, 2012, 08:43:44 PM
Ok , this is a great car for someone here, it is very solid, only requiring minimal welding . Small patch on drivers floor pan, rear may well need no welding , very small amount possibly on rear seal, and a very small piece on drivers chassis rail where it curves up . But apart from a small ding the car is cracking. Fibreglass rear spoiler , fibreglass front bumper which needs a repair, glass moon roof :) Anyway pics for David , let\'s hope someone saves it. (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x71/TRINDMASTER/4C442504-67CA-4A26-957C-51E754280273-6904-00000639EAF26C14.jpg)
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Post by: TRIND-FD on August 28, 2012, 08:45:00 PM
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Post by: cj111 on January 20, 2013, 06:27:49 PM
Nice 7s , love right hnd drive .
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Post by: digbyj on February 21, 2013, 05:29:37 AM
Hey Folks, I\'ve copied and pasted a post below made by member "borgue". The car in question has now came up for sale in Melbourne Australia and I googled and found this thread. Does anyone know borgue or the car in mention, a white s3 c496 BUU? Just trying to get some history on it... See below... Many Thanks in advance Digby
#2981 25th April 2011, 06:25 PM borgue MRC Full Club Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Norfolk Posts: 51
Hello, can you allocate C496 BUU (White Jan 1986) to me please. was found in Swaffham Norfolk. Dry stored and sorn for last 8 years. Will be using the undamaged engine and bits from A220 PBW to restore.
+1 back on road!
Ollie.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 21, 2013, 10:58:52 AM
Hi Digby
if you email "Jimmys" RX7 specialists on email ajc@jimmys-rx7.co.uk you should find out some history. That is where Borgue can be found.
email to Andrew, I have spoken to him and he is expecting your mail.
Hope that helps.....Cheers Dave
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Post by: digbyj on February 21, 2013, 11:29:29 AM
You\'re a champion! Email sent thanks. I owned an s3 as my first car but sold it as it was mint and I didn\'t want to abuse it, I\'m thinking about another now...
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Post by: digbyj on February 21, 2013, 11:30:16 AM
Woah, only sent that once I swear...
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Post by: digbyj on February 22, 2013, 11:06:15 AM
Got a hold of Andrew, cheers again.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 22, 2013, 11:25:36 AM
You\'re welcome Diggers old boy.
I saw you coming through on another Forum as well, was it the same query? I\'ll meet and greet you on there when you post.
Dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on February 25, 2013, 11:18:42 AM
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Post by: re japi on March 23, 2014, 05:19:56 AM
I´m so jealous... What wheels are those?
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Post by: CHC (RIP) on March 23, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
An original set of Elford Alloys which I\'d bought from a fellow member and I had them TWR Chrome powder coated for use on my white RX7 ..... until the Elford turned up that is
Then just had the centre caps to fit when they had been cleaned
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Post by: rei99 on April 15, 2014, 03:50:14 PM
Great! Where have you found them?
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Post by: Cheesp on July 03, 2014, 08:59:59 PM
David
Do you know how many are still on the road? My RX7 is a Mk1 Reg XLH ***X.
It won the Mazda 1st Generation prize at Rotorstock 2012. I am currently looking to sell it.
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 03, 2014, 10:05:04 PM
Hi mate,
I think your\'s is a blue 1st Gen, what we call a Series 2.
I\'ll check out some figures for you tomorrow. All data on my older computer which I need to fire up before I can check things.
Dave
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Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 04, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Hi Again.
there\'s a Location List that I did for 1st Gen RX7\'s in the British Isles. Date Jan this year.
It has 193 Series 3 cars, 112 Series 2 like yours and 41 Series 1 cars.
It\'s a pdf file. I don\'t seem to have attachment or PM privileges on here any more so perhaps you want to view it on rx7 dot com forum where I mainly post to now.
Your car is in the Series 2 section at No. 108, in the \'unknown location\' part at the bottom. The next list will have XLH relocated to Cambs area.
To give an idea of 1st Gens on the road (running taxed or on track) work on about 1/3rd of the cars in the list. The other 2/3 cars are SORN, in barns, project cars etc. In other words off the road but with a chance of living again.
Hope that\'s all useful stuff.
Dave
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Post by: CrazyWaters on April 21, 2018, 09:45:35 PM
This is my sa22c 12A engine.
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Post by: Casey on July 18, 2025, 01:17:38 PM
Just letting everyone know that I have now inherited the register and am in the process of re-configuring it to make it easier to maintain, which I am doing as time permits. This was an amazing labour of love by David Nock ("Codge") and I hope to keep it going.
Attached is the most recent (May 2024) "published" register, but I have made quite a few changes/updates/additions to it since May last year. The register is now more easily searchable, and I can answer any queries anyone may have.
There is no doubt the register will have much out-dated information and some errors, but it is the only list that exists!
I would welcome any recent news/sightings of 1st Gens, so I can check and, where needed, update the register. Either post up in here, or drop me a PM. Thank you :)