Just put a deposit down on an \'88 N/A FC3S to use as a cheap drift/practice/fun type car. Basically another excuse for me to piddle away my hard earned. :Laugh
I have a few questions so I can crack on with it once I\'ve collected it.
1.)Coilovers - are they interchangeable between N/A and Turbo chassis? Does anyone have any for sale? Which ones really dump the car low. I like low. :Laugh
2.)Bodypanels - are the N/A and Turbo cars different in terms of fenders/bumpers etc? I have a pants looking UK spec plate on the back of mine, will a JDM-size plate just bolt right on?
3.)Fitment - I have some 17x9.5 ET+12 from my PS13 Silvia that I want to use on the FC - will these fit? I\'m not afraid of arch rolling/flaring.
4.)Seat rails - I have a side-mount Sparco Rev seat to use - whats the chances of finding some driver\'s side rails to suit FC [as I notice parts are a bitch to find for these - certainly compared to S13\'s!]. Or am I better knocking up some custom side mounts?
5.)Diffs - wleding the stock N/A diff OK? I \'m presuming its an open diff.
6.)Rear steering - I\'ve reading something about Mazda\'s rear steer system - would this car have it? If so, yuck. How do i bin it?
7.)Breathing mods - The usual air filter/exhaust thingies work? Rotaries are voodoo to me.
Thats all for now, I\'m sure you\'ll get suitable annoyed with my questions soon :D
Hi! :wave
1) Coilovers - you may not want to run it too low - the exhaust can ground easily on even the mildest of speed humps. I think fitment is the same between TII and N/A (EGI) - but TII rates will be harder.
2) Trim is different between the EGI and TII - the EGI models are in S4 Trim (square lensed backlights) - you can fit US/JAP style S5 rear light clusters and the smaller number plate holder as far as I know.
3) EGI models have 4 stud fixing - not 5 stud, ET is ideally between 35/40
4) Have a word with some of the vendors on here - they may have some seat runners.
5) As you suspect
6) Not sure the EGI models had this - but it\'s passive - they are a type of bush that deforms under a certain loading - you can get what\'s called DTSS eliminator bushing kits - that will take that off if you have it.
7) Breathing mods will help the EGI no end - Big open exhaust - and according to Brett\'s research - an aftermarket panel filter is the best option - He\'s the man to talk to for tweaks on EGI\'s
This is the car I\'ve bought -
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd12/yb52luo/DSC00156.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd12/yb52luo/DSC00153.jpg)
It definately looks to be running 5 stud.
Thanks for your help though!
Hi Jord!
I recognised your name, I think you know my mate Joe and Morf from the 180sx blog (I own the yellow fc :) Will be nice to potentially see another fc in the Peterborough area (occasionally visit my folks there)
Afraid I can\'t offer any advice as im a new owner myself and in the process of learning!
Good luck with your new ride, I\'m very keen to see how it turns out, I love your silvia, very cool car :)
:Santa
welcome, nice car
Quote from: Jord;568099This is the car I\'ve bought -
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd12/yb52luo/DSC00156.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd12/yb52luo/DSC00153.jpg)
It definately looks to be running 5 stud.
Thanks for your help though!
Someones converted the hubs then - which means a wider choice of wheels for you ;) - they are fairly standard 114.3 x 5 PCD.
Oh - and nice looking FC - I\'ve seen that one first hand at a Reading Jap meet - nice clean looking car :)
Quote from: mukumu kurubushi;568100Hi Jord!
I recognised your name, I think you know my mate Joe and Morf from the 180sx blog (I own the yellow fc :) Will be nice to potentially see another fc in the Peterborough area (occasionally visit my folks there)
Afraid I can\'t offer any advice as im a new owner myself and in the process of learning!
Good luck with your new ride, I\'m very keen to see how it turns out, I love your silvia, very cool car :)
:Santa
Hi! Yes I am the same Jord :D I\'ve seen the pictures of your FC, looks awesome!
I\'ve always fancied an FC and I couldn\'t turn this one down. Hopefully it\'ll be badass and make girlies run screaming towards me.
hey jord see ya chatting about buyying an fc on dw...find jits thread on the fc forum as he is selling loads of parts...
my s4 is 5 stud too. Maybe its the early s4\'s that are 4 stud?
nice fc youve got there rxv8, saw it for sale drift works, looks to be a cracking car.
:D
Yeah this car was owned by someone on here last. Can\'t remember his username off hand though.
Oh welcome to the club by the way. Hope you enjoy your FC. From what I\'ve heard the EGI\'s love being thrashed. Just let it warm up first.
Mine are 5 stud also.
I\'m going to be adding a set of Turbo II side skirts to mine over the next 2/3 weeks man. I will be adding pictures of the process so you can see the difference. At first i didn\'t think it was much but when i hold the TII skirts next to the car you will see its a massive difference.
Welcome along dude! :)
Quote from: adereed;568115From what I\'ve heard the EGI\'s love being thrashed. Just let it warm up first.
and the turbo\'s don\'t ? :burnout
N/A Rotaries are great as you don\'t have to worry about what the turbo\'s doing! 9000rpm ftw!
On the rear wheels the lowest offset will be a 9.5J and 20 or ideally a 25
The fronts can go to a 8.5J and I would say a 25 offset. Any lower offset and you will have the wheel and tyre outside the rim, for drifting you may well want to bear this in mind with body roll etc.
The number plate holder for the rear is made specifically for the JDM or UK market but are interchangeable, plenty of cars being broken at the moment with them on.
pretty much all the body panels are interchangeable in one way or another but yours being the S4 type the trim is different and different to the later S5. Just by adding some TII side skirts,front splitter and a rear spoiler it will transform the car. Lower the thing with those alloys and it will look mean as hell without spending hardly any money.
I once saw my mates Golf and it looked wider and serious as hell, upon asking who supplied the kit he said there was no kit....just lowered and the widest alloys to fit under the arches. I do have a rear spoiler you can have for next to nothing.
Oh yes move the number plate higher up the bumper and then cut the rad opening bigger, simply removing the centre bar thing and having a play with the airflow will get cooler air to the rad and engine which you will defo need for drifting.
Oh if your gunna remove that centre bar jump onto rx7club.com
they have series 4 turbo\'s over there so a lot of people do it for front mounts.
Sound advice guys. I\'m running 225/45 on the wheels currently so that pulls the tread inside the arch a bit. I\'m determined to make these wheels fit with some hammertime and camber. Fitment should look sick.
I\'d agree on the lowering and right wheels. Offsets and widths MAKE a good looking car. I do think overfenders look horny as hell on FCs but I\'d love to get away with just rolling and flaring.
I plan to fit a square front plate, off to one side like I have done on the PS13.
(http://images38.fotki.com/v1276/photos/4/43405/5358257/IMG_2008-vi.jpg)
Those are the wheels. They WILL fit haha :D
Oh my! :2eek
That is a beautiful ps13! Given the choice thats the only car i would have over an fc.. if only they weren\'t so expensive!
+1 for lowering and good width/offset. If you can get those wheels on an fc that would look mighty sexy!
low, wide and scraping off the ground ftw :D
Whats up darlin!
Stop showin that Datson crap on ere!
Kit, wheels and slam-it, i will look amazin a few skids in that and PS ill be goin up for sale im sure ;)
Overfenders over rolled arch any day sun shine!
Only the really low spec US cars were 4 stud - they also only had single piston callipers at the front too. All UK cars were 5 stud.
:wave
Quote from: Brett;569019Only the really low spec US cars were 4 stud - they also only had single piston callipers at the front too. All UK cars were 5 stud.
:wave
LOL! I was going to say the same! :) The wheels on there are the standard UK (stock) EGI ones (5 stud) :)
Also there were two versions of finish on the same style wheel (for the two versions of the EGI) - earlier was matt and later was shiny :)
Congratulations on your new EGI Jord - enjoy! :)
:wave
Collected this today and I\'m pretty pleased. Needs some tidying up doing, a new set of wheels [one has a ding and the other a BIG ding], could do with a rear spoiler too as its been removed at some point.
The bits I\'m pleased with are the CLEANEST engine bay I\'ve ever seen, not one bit of rust on the chassis that I could see and a full record service history from 1992 as well as the original sales invoice from 1988 for £17000! Its certainly been looked after.
I\'ll get some pictures up on Tuesday once I\'ve washed it.
Hey man, does it take a spoiler that comes down from the top or one that looks like it bolts onto the back? I have the one that bolts on the back.. but i think from the pics it looks like you need the TII style spoiler..
Looks like it wraps round the bottom of the rear window, its had one on it before.
After doing this maybe I\'ll keep it :)
(http://images42.fotki.com/v1372/photos/4/43405/3386349/fc3s-vi.jpg)
i like what you plan to do with the front, that looks awesome
get some series 5 rear lights and your sorted!
ha ha check the camber on that bad boy! That looks fantastic! It\'s amazing what some mods to your suspension can do to a car.. Make it look like that dude and your onto a winner!
im still waiting to see yours like that retro boy :D
haha.. maybe one day.. but i think mine certainly needs the alignment sorted as the wheels look abit positive and negative on the old cambers..
OK a couple of questions -
1.) What should the oil pressure read at on the dash pressure gauge? When cold and when warm? Mine seems to fluctuate.
2.) Exhaust systems - I hear a load of power can be free\'d up with these, but rarely see any for sale. Are the NA and TII systems the same cat-back [and interchangeable?]. Any power increase from fitting a TII system?
3.)Anyone breaking an FC, I need some trim bits? :)
2) you free up most power by getting an aftermarket header and losing the emissions stuff. The racing beat header removes the baffles on the engine block (i think) and eliminates the cat. remove the air pump, and get a free flowing cat back and an air filter and its possible to see up to about 30bhp. I currently have a racing beat header and TII cat back. I did have a 3 inch single exit cat back with a jap can, but be warned, these get extremely loud
Roughly how much is a racing beat header and where from? :)
not sure on price. mazda rotary parts sell it as they are a UK dealer for racing beat (or something like that) but i don\'t know if they will sell just the header. Rotechniks also are racing beat suppliers and i hear they have re-opened or are re opening. but when i tried to get a catback off them they said they could only sell me an entire system. Or you could go to racing beat direct in america http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm
Quote from: Jord;5738093.)Anyone breaking an FC, I need some trim bits? :)
External or internal trim ? Let me know what you need and I\'ll see if I\'ve got it.
Thanks dthebuk, useful info - I\'ll look into the air pump removal especially. This is a budget project so removing stuff is preferred over buying stuff :D
lil ben - I\'ll have a list done tommorrow, its mostly interior bits I need, like the sill trims and stock speakers etc.
I might be able to help out with trim bits too if need be.
i miss rex :(
I sent you a text yesterday Stew - did you get it - re: V5?
I\'ve had the 17x9.5 ET+12 wheels on the car, but need to wait for some slim wheel nuts to arrive as the RX ones are too fat and my slim Nissan ones are the wrong thread pitch. When I lined the wheels up they looked like they should fit with a bit of camber and a slight rear flare.
Otherwise I\'ve treated it to a clean and a fresh set of numberplates including a square front plate off to one side, looks better already.
I need some coilovers!
pete is selling some for £350 i think
check the parts for sale section :D
might be able to have my turbo2 spoiler jord once i take if off if u like... need to see what dmg is done on removal etc..
planning on de-spoilering mine. My torques will be goin on my FC too rofl.. this gonna be funny.
Some good info on here.. ill be doin the same \'removal\' mods first too. sound deadening, abs/ air con (if it has one???) and other cheapo breathing mods etc.. Ben will be picking ure brain alot as well as beezy. :)
MANIC DAY today...
Will be doing a huge build thread on this one.. but for now..
Jord
I have a TON of interior gear if you want it.. but let me know fast before it gets binned. I also have a rear spoiler and pretty much ANY Dash as i got practilly a whole cars worth of spares...
I have 2 radiators
1 intercooler
2 sets of mirrors
2 clutches + pressure plates (practically new)
..list keeps going!
what intercooler and what rad ?
:D
Quote from: FlikstRR;583894MANIC DAY today...
Will be doing a huge build thread on this one.. but for now..
Jord
I have a TON of interior gear if you want it.. but let me know fast before it gets binned. I also have a rear spoiler and pretty much ANY Dash as i got practilly a whole cars worth of spares...
I have 2 radiators
1 intercooler
2 sets of mirrors
2 clutches + pressure plates (practically new)
..list keeps going!
Are they the TII mirrors? my passenger side mirror is damaged :(
Yup TII everything.
I have a Custom made IC going on (or at least we are trying too) so the Standard TII one is up for grabs (2 of them infact)
same with the rads.. just boggo standard ones I think. Good nick tho.
ah ok, not interested, cheers anyway :D
Just need to claify something - will an aftermarket TII cat-back exhaust fit the stock system on an EGi?
yes i have one. whats currently on your egi? i may swap :D
edit: wait a tick i have a stock TII cat back on my egi
Jord are getting new wheels for the car? if so can i nab the stock wheels off of you?
i only need one but would be willing to buy two, maybe 4 if i have to, but don\'t really want to
I\'m after some more stock wheels for now as two of mine are fubared. So I need two :)
well i have 3 good wheels with 3 good tyres.....if i can find something aftermarket for cheap then i can sell you the set?
brett has a load, check my other post
Quote from: FlikstRR;583894MANIC DAY today...
Will be doing a huge build thread on this one.. but for now..
Jord
I have a TON of interior gear if you want it.. but let me know fast before it gets binned. I also have a rear spoiler and pretty much ANY Dash as i got practilly a whole cars worth of spares...
I have 2 radiators
1 intercooler
2 sets of mirrors
2 clutches + pressure plates (practically new)
..list keeps going!
The clutch need mine changing its slipping like a bitch also reverse light switch ....ed. Can you give me a price on a decent clutch below 150 and the reverse switch?
Dont want to steal Jords thread.. I will be doing a for-sale thread tomorrow evening, so keep your eyes peeled. :)