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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: leeincivic on November 29, 2008, 04:49:40 PM

Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: leeincivic on November 29, 2008, 04:49:40 PM
ola!!! jus got in form the cold and thought i would post some pics up of me mini project i have been doin the past few days, i recently fitted a full roll cage and there was clearly no room for peeps in the back so thought i would rip the seats out, then i had the idea of moving the battery from the boot to the rear seat area (in this thread http://mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53392)

anyways i managed to sort it all out so here are the pics

this is how it started off minus the optima battery tho
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/leeincivic/rx7%20pics/DSC00597.jpg)

this was the empty space i had to work me magic lol
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/leeincivic/rx7%20pics/SNC12078.jpg)

progress pics
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/leeincivic/rx7%20pics/SNC12087.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/leeincivic/rx7%20pics/DSC02143.jpg)

THE MASTERPIECE!!! :rollin:rollin
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/leeincivic/rx7%20pics/SNC12097.jpg)

chuffed with the results and it dont look to out of place, i have also got a little lip on the driver side one so i can put some bits on there and they wont fall off :D

let me know ya thoughts,
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: shaunwil on November 29, 2008, 04:59:23 PM
Nice, opposite side a good place for water injection system :D

Shaun
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Post by: Kevin on November 29, 2008, 05:03:45 PM
Awesome!...  Merseyside producing the best as usual! :D
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Post by: RedRummy on November 29, 2008, 05:54:38 PM
i\'d be a bit worried about having bare terminals there though..  reach across to get something and...
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Post by: jm-garage.co.uk on November 29, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
looks good buddy. nicely done
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: leeincivic on November 29, 2008, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: RedRummy;561008i\'d be a bit worried about having bare terminals there though..  reach across to get something and...

yeah its just temporary for the minute, i am getting terminals with a plastic shroud probably tomorrow, halfrauds was shut today by the time i was finished :evillaugh

and yeah cheers shaunwil, water injection is in the plans and yeah never even thought of mountin it there until you mentioned it, will it not be an annoying noise down me lug hole tho?
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: jm-garage.co.uk on November 30, 2008, 11:21:46 AM
Quote from: leeincivic;561052will it not be an annoying noise down me lug hole tho?

Get a new exhaust system and just drown it out :chat
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: leeincivic on November 30, 2008, 12:07:45 PM
i could do with somethin to drown out the exhaust!! haha

av got blitz backbox and sileneced midpipe which does NOT do what it says on the tin!!:evillaugh
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: shaunwil on November 30, 2008, 12:54:25 PM
Not sure how loud it is although if it only comes on with boost it isn\'t going to be all that quiet anyway !

Shaun
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Post by: leeincivic on November 30, 2008, 07:01:16 PM
ha yeah very true, well just got in from fitting a devils own water injection kit to me mates fabia vrs so will see tommoz when we finish it how loud the pump runs, but yeah i supoose me screamer pipe will sort out any unwanted pump noise haha:3gears-rh
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: L18M on November 30, 2008, 11:54:52 PM
hey leeincivic,

nice job on the relocation. what grade wire did you use to pull the +ive to the boot?
is the -ive jus earthed to the car?

cheers for the info in advanced. think i wanna relocate my batt also.
is there anything else u need to do apart from pulling the wires thru?
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Post by: gsb876 on December 01, 2008, 12:46:39 AM
Quote from: Kevin;561002Awesome!...  Merseyside producing the best as usual! :D

Like Everton then :Thumbsup!
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Post by: SiH on December 01, 2008, 08:13:54 AM
Quote from: BBCFC;561307hey leeincivic,

nice job on the relocation. what grade wire did you use to pull the +ive to the boot?
is the -ive jus earthed to the car?

cheers for the info in advanced. think i wanna relocate my batt also.
is there anything else u need to do apart from pulling the wires thru?

I wouldn\'t use anything less than 0 gauge.
I used cable with a cross section of 35mm squared.

You can just earth the battery to anywhere on the chassis - get down to the bare metal around the earthing point though. Mine is earthed to one of the points that\'s used to fasten the rear seats if you have them (I have bins)
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: L18M on December 01, 2008, 11:19:05 PM
Quote from: SiH;561338I wouldn\'t use anything less than 0 gauge.
I used cable with a cross section of 35mm squared.

You can just earth the battery to anywhere on the chassis - get down to the bare metal around the earthing point though. Mine is earthed to one of the points that\'s used to fasten the rear seats if you have them (I have bins)

thats great thanks :)
i read up on some posts that some ppl put a fuse in there also. is that really required and why is it best to put batt in a box?
incase it explodes or jus so its more secure?
cheers:wiggle
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Post by: SiH on December 02, 2008, 07:32:17 AM
Definitely fuse the positive (as you have done) but there\'s no need to fuse the earth :).

Box is designed to prevent spillages, but they\'re not too vital with a gel battery imho.
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: leeincivic on December 09, 2008, 09:00:53 AM
yeah i go that fuse cheap cheap from australia a few months back, only paid £25 to me door and its spot on:Laugh
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Post by: markrx7 on December 09, 2008, 05:27:08 PM
ya wanna use rope to relocate lol!

(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1521/179/49/696642350/n696642350_1096631_7733.jpg)

p.s. what fuse rating are you using in that 4awg mate? its not usually recommended fusing there due to the amount of amps you pull when turning the car over from say cold for example. it will pop 100 easily.... sometimes even a 150.
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Post by: karl_tate on December 09, 2008, 05:52:45 PM
i will be relocating mine in the very near future so where is the best place to fuse??
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Post by: shaunwil on December 09, 2008, 06:10:51 PM
Straight after the battery terminal.

I use that size Rope for the grounding cable, 0AWG !

Shaun
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: markrx7 on December 11, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
lol all about 0awg!

i was told to not fuse by my work (in car audio/security specialist) however i thought no harm really so used a fuse battery terminal and put a 300amp in there so shouldnt blow when turning over.
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Post by: SiH on December 11, 2008, 12:15:51 PM
I run 140a and have done on this car and the last one - never tripped a circuit breaker or popped a fuse. :)
300a is OTT and compomising protection imo :)
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Post by: shaunwil on December 11, 2008, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: markrx7;564453i was told to not fuse by my work (in car audio/security specialist) however i thought no harm really so used a fuse battery terminal and put a 300amp in there so shouldnt blow when turning over.

Thats crazy. If the cable works loose and connects the body the battery will explode. It would weld the cable to the body of the car !

Shaun
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Post by: markrx7 on December 11, 2008, 02:29:37 PM
well only reason i say that is because the starter can pull in excess of 200amps on a cold day etc. I have popped 100 and 150 on a random morning

Well first off, if the right connectors were used on the power cable (for e.g. non slip SMC connectors) inside the terminal and done properly it shouldnt work itself loose. Plus i dont have anything metal in the boot anyways. its all MDF and carpet where its been remade. The only reason i have a fuse on the terminal at all is under the unlikely event that something cuts thru the carpet and into the power cable shorting it. but this is very unlucky.
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Post by: Jono FD3 on December 11, 2008, 02:38:51 PM
Best thing to do is what I have opted for..... a 140amp braker!! coz if it pops you don\'t have to go hunting for another fuse!! just flick the switch!! I\'ve started mine in -1 mornings & never had any issue with it tripping as yet & it\'s been in the boot for over a year now!

Jono
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Post by: karl_tate on December 11, 2008, 06:03:49 PM
that sounds like a plan jono, brakers FTW :D
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Post by: shaunwil on December 11, 2008, 06:31:20 PM
Yep, but the biggest issue is vibration cutting into the cable under the floor if the wire is rubbing against any thing. The positive side on my setup is 2x 4awg and it uses 2 fuses. Just keep plenty of them in the car :Giggle

Just being overly caution since my battery can cold crank 1500amps and if it is shorted can easily explod. Joys of a pure lead sealed battery !

Shaun
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Post by: karl_tate on December 11, 2008, 06:36:03 PM
got any pics shaun, i hate electrics lol
Title: relocated relocated battery!
Post by: shaunwil on December 11, 2008, 07:26:52 PM
Will have a dig, if not will take a couple of quicky images at the weekend !

Shaun
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Post by: karl_tate on December 11, 2008, 07:37:24 PM
sweet, cheers mate :Thumbs-up
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Post by: markrx7 on December 11, 2008, 07:44:44 PM
lol the amount of sound deadening i have where that cable is it aint gonna be cutting into anything lol. the floor is nowhere to be seen!

what battery u got shaun? i think mine must pull similar...

i have http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/5204.html
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Post by: Spartacus on December 11, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
I used a 150A breaker and a 200A fuse in series. Apparently if you do have a catastrophic short on that size cable it can weld the breaker contacts together so a higher rated fuse is advisable. Oh and thats turning over a 5.7L V8 with no problems.