Hi,
Got stopped by the police this morning and got told to change my number plates...:Nono!
Truoble is, the standard legal plates won\'t fit on my 99 spec front bumper (same the back)
My current number plate is the longest it could be - 7 full size characters - has anyone re-registered their car with a plate with only 1 number, and squashed the space in between (5 characters)?
here are my current plates
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1057/1064900724_dba85985a6.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1024/1064053387_29edd28688.jpg)
Looks like the Fulking-Poynings road, you been visiting Jason again, dude?
They probably don\'t like the fact all the digits are in one line, but not the standard size and spacing. I\'ve had loads of grief about that on bikes before. Even if you use non-legal size letters, for some reason the Babylon seem to prefer it when they\'re in two rows.
With that said, you\'re entitled to legally use a plate of smaller size and lettering if the car\'s an import with no report and there\'s no provision on the bodywork to display a plate of the standard regulation size IIRC
looking at your plate in the pics those characters do not look full size to me. they are ranged left not centered therefore not as big as they could be. also is the font the correct one is it a heavy font? (thicker) as it looks a little thin like a medium/light font to me.
its the mixture of all these things that make it look odd even though in reality its prob not that different from a standard plate.
Quote from: Nik da Greek;557590Looks like the Fulking-Poynings road, you been visiting Jason again, dude?
yeah, that\'s the spot... was takena couple of summers ago - not been to Jason for a while...
Quote from: Nik da Greek;557590They probably don\'t like the fact all the digits are in one line, but not the standard size and spacing. I\'ve had loads of grief about that on bikes before. Even if you use non-legal size letters, for some reason the Babylon seem to prefer it when they\'re in two rows.
yeah, he even got his ruler out to measure up - its the size and spacing of the lettering - way too small apparently.
Quote from: Nik da Greek;557590With that said, you\'re entitled to legally use a plate of smaller size and lettering if the car\'s an import with no report and there\'s no provision on the bodywork to display a plate of the standard regulation size IIRC
Thats what I tried to argue, but there is no such provision apparently.. never has been... even if the bumper won\'t fit the plate.
He was a sergeant (or whatever) with the white hat, so he wasn\'t having any of it :)
There is no dispensation for import cars, at least not normal PLG cars.
He said if it doens\'t fit the bumper, tough titty... (or words to that effect ;) )
Mihgt buy a new plate with only 1 number, then squash the spacing, which he seemed ok with.
Quote from: cyman;557592looking at your plate in the pics those characters do not look full size to me. they are ranged left not centered therefore not as big as they could be. also is the font the correct one is it a heavy font? (thicker) as it looks a little thin like a medium/light font to me.
its the mixture of all these things that make it look odd even though in reality its prob not that different from a standard plate.
Yeah, all the lettering is out.... too small in every direction :Nono!:2Rolleyes
trouble is, a new plate from DVLA costs about £250 all in (re-registering, a making plates up, includes admin fees)
Sounds like you got a complete wnaker, sorry, onanist of a copper, mate. He\'s obviously handy with the ruler from measuring his utterly inadequate penis in the hope it\'s grown to even average length. What an prick!
Did he issue a Vehicle Rectification Notice? If not, I\'d just ignore the c*** and leave it as it is. I\'ve done that a few times and never been stopped by the same Plod twice. Only ever once had a Rectification Notice issued
Quote from: Nik da Greek;557602Sounds like you got a complete wnaker, sorry, onanist of a copper, mate. He\'s obviously handy with the ruler from measuring his utterly inadequate penis in the hope it\'s grown to even average length. What an prick!
Did he issue a Vehicle Rectification Notice? If not, I\'d just ignore the c*** and leave it as it is. I\'ve done that a few times and never been stopped by the same Plod twice. Only ever once had a Rectification Notice issued
Yeah, for a minute I thought he was gonna get under the car and start checking it out.
I got a Vehicle Defect Notification, need to get it sorted, take it to MOT station, get the VDN stamped and send it off... in 14days!!
:Grrr
Bast@rd! I guess the MOT tester may be more sympathetic than Mr maggot-c0cked Plod, though? When I got the VDN on my bike, I just took it to my local bike shop, where I\'ve been a loyal customer for like 15 years. The tester just said, "well, you\'ve got a legal one at home, haven\'t you? That\'s good enough for me" and stamped the ticket. Mind you, the number plate on that bike was ridiculous, it was about the size of a fag-packet.
I\'d go and see the MOT tester, mate, and see what he reckons before throwin money away changing stuff that may not need changing
it was an unmarked car, and i\'ve seen that one round here quite a lot (up and down the M23 - silver 3 series beemer)
knowing my luck I\'ll get pulled again with the same bloke and get done again.
I use this place in Crawley to make up my plates, they do proper import size ones.
Rose Auto Supplies
Unit 8, Merlin Centre, County Oak Way, Crawley, West Sussex RH11 7XA
Tel: 01293 536769
Good tip, anyway, John. I\'ve not spotted an unmarked Beemer, I\'ll look out for that one. I\'ve seen that Evo they\'ve got, now that really ain\'t playing fair.....
there used to be a blue P1 scooby too, not see that for a while though... I even saw the scooby tail gating some chav tryingt o get him to race...:Nono!
Just not cricket!
That silver unmarked bimmer used to often turn up around essex when the locals were out playing.
Can\'t you get Jono or someone to make you up a sticky number plate?
If they\'re going to be arsey about that they\'re going to be arsey about a sticker :nod:
The whole import/no provision\' thing is utterly true - there\'s a bit on the DVLA website about it - BUT it\'s for imported cars only, not UK cars with different bumpers.
The issue is with the spacing - I\'ve got two line ones and never had any issue whatsoever - I\'ll see what i can dig up about the spacing - but it\'s all on the DVLA website.
Its all on the dvla website, imported cars can have lettering around 10mm smaller than the uk equivelent.
Quote from: DVLACertain imported vehicles may be permitted to display number plates with smaller characters if:
The vehicle does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval
AND
l The vehicle\'s construction/design cannot accomodate standard size number plates
Specifications for smaller sized plates (for certain imported vehicles)
whatever the European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval is :flamed
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/number_plates_registration_marks.aspx (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/number_plates_registration_marks.aspx)
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf)
The copper measured mine against \'group 1\' on page 2 of http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf)
If my car does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval then he should have measured me against the table at the top of page 3 (smaller measurements allowed, which I wouldn\'t have passed either:reallymad)
Quote from: SiH;557635If they\'re going to be arsey about that they\'re going to be arsey about a sticker :nod:
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yeah, stickers are explicity mentioned as no allowed.. :(
Sticky plates..... lol don\'t get me started.... if he throws that in to the ring ask him if he goes around pulling every ferrari, Zonda...... actualy, most of the italian super cars. if he isn\'t then there are hundreds more braking his precious law!!
Oh & if you get stoped in the future & they say "No, there hasn\'t been any law about smaller size plates & didgets being allowed" just show him this & watch them retreat back to their car with their tail between their legs:
PRINT THIS & KEEP IT IN YOUR GLOVE BOX:
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf
Jono
you mean the bit on page 3 that has a table of "Specifications for smaller sized plates (for certain imported vehicles)"
what are the certain imported vehicles then...?
In any case, my reg would have failed those measurments too...
One of the documents above mentions the sticky plates rule... it wasn\'t the copper.
Went to see the DVLA today in Brighton to ask what I could do about the size of the plates and stuff, and to find out once and for all what the rules are.
They said an imported RX7 DOES fall into the category Display of Vehicle Registration Marks on Imported Vehicles (which have a
restricted space for a standard sized number plate) mentioned at the top of page 3 of
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf)... which means you only have to measure up against the table on page 3, which have much smaller minimum dimensions of lettering and spacing etc
The reason being an imported RX7 does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval, because it was produced before the ECWVA regulations were brought in, and because, well, it wasn\'t built i Europe :). And, if you have a Jap bumper (i.e it can\'t accomodate a UK plate), you only need to abide by the measurements listed in the table at the top of page 3 under Display of Vehicle Registration Marks on Imported Vehicles (which have a
restricted space for a standard sized number plate)
and that is gospel from the DVLA.
the fact that my plate still doesn\'t meet those regs, is another matter :Laugh
not siding on the police, but you knew its illegal?, like me i have my number plate in the front windscreen which is illegal i know that,i got stopped a couple of times when i first done it 2-3 years ago but just said bumper had just been resprayed and got told to sort it or im on the way to halfrauds to get number plate fixings if i was in that area,they dont bother me now-touch wood, but i know if i get stopped they will bring me up on it-its their job lol
On the other hand as you have said buy a number plate with less characters that will fit on your plate.
well, I never measured it, but I new it wasn\'t up to the normal UK sized plates, and thoguht I could get by on the imported sized plates...
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m not arguing the VDN... just curious what the proper regs are for my car..:Thumbs-up
I now have to go an MOT station to get the VDN stamped... funny that it went through 3 MOTs with nothing being said... :2Rolleyes