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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: Kevin on September 25, 2008, 09:50:06 PM

Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on September 25, 2008, 09:50:06 PM
If you wanted to be a pain and disable an FD from starting what method would you use?

I was thinking something simple like removing the fuel pump relay?  Simple and not many people would know.

Anybody got any suggestions?

Only reason I ask is that there\'s apparently been alot of performance cars being robbed round here by a gang from manchester.  Reports of them just busting into peoples houses and doing them over taking keys and having off with there cars.  So with a garage full of FD\'s and other imports etc im a little paranoid.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Lil-Steve on September 25, 2008, 09:56:33 PM
Rip the spark leads off would work..... is there an ignitor pack on the FD?

There is on the old Supra, 1 bolt 2 clips 3 min job. Completely immobile.

Unless they have one of those big pickup trucks of course.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on September 25, 2008, 10:00:25 PM
I thought about the spark plugs but it\'s abit of a pain in the ass to remove them over 5 Fd\'s, plus other cars.  Was thinking more along the line of a quick pop the bonnet and done, but nothing blindingly obvious.  As the cars sometimes move during the week for space etc.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Jono FD3 on September 25, 2008, 10:11:33 PM
Yea, fuel pump relay would be a good one to go for. or just plug the cars in to the mains..... that way you can give the thieving gits a little poke in the morning before the police come along ;)

Jono
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on September 25, 2008, 10:18:23 PM
Ok one last quick question, regarding the right relay is it:

The EGI MAIN RELAY (next to the right hand strut in the first fuse box)
The EGI RELAY (in the slimer fuse box next to the battery)
or
The FUEL PUMP RELAY (at the front left of the engine bay next in slim fuse box)

Im guessing the last one but not 100% sure.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Ada7 on September 25, 2008, 10:39:45 PM
The only thing i\'d worry about by doing something like this is that if the gang dont care about breaking into peoples houses and threatening them so they can steal the car i doubt they\'ll care about smashing the cars up a bit when they cant get them moving or even start them, or even worse come back to get even more violent with you. Just might be more trouble on for you :(

Adam
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: g11ary on September 25, 2008, 10:44:55 PM
Just take out a fuse, most thugs/****s wont know whats been done, they wil just think its a no go\'er a few turns over and they\'ll leg it.

Often its the simplest of things that will throw the car thief, a simple toggle switch under the dash, easy to flick then getting in and out and most wont look for it, they assume it has a immobiliser on it

If your good with electronics,then a Motec or similar can be made to immobilise as well.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: m1tch on September 25, 2008, 10:57:53 PM
Fuses sound like a good idea, failing that I suggest....LAND MINES :D
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Ada7 on September 25, 2008, 11:07:47 PM
Or bear traps :D

Adam
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: gsb876 on September 26, 2008, 06:54:35 AM
take the fuel relay out and if they burst in and grab the keys then question you just say "rebuild time !! hence no worky" :King
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Gatesy on September 26, 2008, 09:53:48 AM
If you\'ve got apexi\'s on any of them set the rev limiter at 1000rpm and then remove the commander and no matter what they wont be able to start the car.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: rx7ben on September 26, 2008, 10:32:10 AM
All so you could ad to all this and buy a quick release hub adaptor and take your steering wheel with you. Thats what i do, got to do everything possible to stop these f:Grrr:Grrr:Grrring theiving  Ba:Grrr:Grrrards
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: g11ary on September 26, 2008, 10:36:50 AM
Quote from: Gatesy;540461If you\'ve got apexi\'s on any of them set the rev limiter at 1000rpm and then remove the commander and no matter what they wont be able to start the car.

Top tip of the week :cheers
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on September 26, 2008, 10:53:14 AM
Two of the FD\'s have apexi\'s, one has a knightsports ecu and the other two have standard ecu\'s.  So abit stuck for doing that with 3 of them.

RX7ben: Steering hub is a good idea but as 4 of them are stock im selling I dont really want to have to spend out more on them.  Plus there are another 4 non-fd\'s in the garage too so dont want to really incur any additional cost.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Jono FD3 on September 26, 2008, 11:32:20 AM
OK on the steering wheel front you could disconect the air bags ( if they have them) undo the wheel retaining nut, put it in the glove box, & pull the wheels off, then when you want to move them just slip them back on to the spline, move them & then a gentle tug & the wheel is off & back in the house ;) Obviously you are going to need to bolt it up properly when the cars are sold or collected by their owners again ;)

Jono
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: RedRummy on September 26, 2008, 08:11:47 PM
I quite often pull the fuel relay out of mine... works well and is easy to do...

Or any fuse really...
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: FDAsh on September 26, 2008, 09:23:49 PM
Can you set the rev limit to zero on a PFC?
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Grizzly on September 27, 2008, 03:56:58 PM
Take the gear selector off :)
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Grizzly on September 27, 2008, 04:01:42 PM
or you could do the same thing as me and remove your engine, just to make extra sure i also have it chained to tree :)
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Shiuko on September 28, 2008, 01:12:54 AM
Best thing you could do is:
Go to your kitchen, grab the biggest knife in the drawer and...




















slash the tires in all your cars. :Giggle
That\'ll stop then scumbags messing about with any of your cars.  :spank
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on September 28, 2008, 10:11:54 AM
:3Confused........................:Thumbs-up
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Grizzly on September 28, 2008, 03:32:16 PM
Quote from: Shiuko;540875Best thing you could do is:
Go to your kitchen, grab the biggest knife in the drawer and...




















slash the tires in all your cars. :Giggle
That\'ll stop then scumbags messing about with any of your cars.  :spank
Or sit in the car and stab the Scumbag that tries to take it :)
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on September 28, 2008, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: Grizzly;540956Or sit in the car and stab the Scumbag that tries to take it :)

Knowing my luck i\'d be the one who gets sent down, and after spending 5 years of my life in walton prison I really wouldnt like to go back. :eek:
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Grizzly on September 29, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
Just make sure the body\'s never found :)
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: prince_of_tokyo on September 30, 2008, 02:10:06 PM
a sniper rifle at the window should do the trick...just dont sleep

had some guys trying it with my R33 GTR, couldnt start it so bricked the windows...
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Sy. on September 30, 2008, 02:19:14 PM
I would say a Kill switch wired into the ignition ..  if you dont switch it it wont start .... can hide a little switch anywhere on the car . :D or even better ... sorry cant think where to wire it to but on an Alfa i had wired it in and it would attepmt to fire up with the starter motor turning but never start . was great as it just sounded like your car was out of fuel or fooked .
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Grizzly on October 01, 2008, 01:11:08 PM
If you want some serious advice, you want a very Visual Deterant maybe like a snap off Steering wheel or a Wheel Clamp etc, it may not stop them from Stealing your car but to a Noob Joy rider it could be enough to make them look else where.

A word of warning, don\'t buy the Steering wheel boot type locks, There a waist of time and money, if you are not bothered about scratching steering wheels and bits of trim you can man handle most of them off.
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Jono FD3 on October 01, 2008, 09:03:59 PM
Big dog in the lock up is another good one ;) Oh & don\'t feed it very oftern lol!

A mate of mine has got a dog that will bark, snarl & show it\'s teeth, looks realy nasty, but once he gets to know you he will sit on your feet & he\'s that heavy you can\'t move!! LOL

Jono
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on October 01, 2008, 10:08:33 PM
I have a big stupid boxer dog.......  Unfortunately he would be about as much use as leaving the key\'s in the ignition of all the cars. :D
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Jono FD3 on October 01, 2008, 10:35:31 PM
LOL poke him with a stick for a few days & feed him some yobs...... he\'ll soon come round ;)
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: RemarkLima on October 02, 2008, 08:14:28 AM
I was also gonna say a couple of dobermans would do the trick ;)

But couldn\'t you just flood the engines... Usually why a RX7 won\'t start!

Also, how hard is it to just unplug the fuel pump from the boot?

But a word of caution, wasn\'t there a guy who had a limited edition Evo, they tried to steal it, couldn\'t so torched it instead which then set fire to Audi and his gf\'s car... With that in mind, decent insurace may be the best idea?
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: Kevin on October 02, 2008, 09:16:00 AM
Quote from: RemarkLima;541724But a word of caution, wasn\'t there a guy who had a limited edition Evo, they tried to steal it, couldn\'t so torched it instead which then set fire to Audi and his gf\'s car... With that in mind, decent insurace may be the best idea?


Damn.... Thats abit extreme!!...

I pay a fair heafty whack for trade insurance for my company each year so thats not really a problem.

The thing that would annoy me the most is someone driving off in something you\'ve worked really hard for.  Hence the whole topic of disabling, as i think i\'d rather see it in flames than pure profit in someone elses pocket, if you get what i mean?
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: RedRummy on October 15, 2008, 12:34:45 PM
If the cars are on trade premesis, then I\'d recommend a very big visual deterrent. like parking another vehicle across the exit or loads of cameras.

Oh, and even with the fuel relay removed, the car can start and move for a while, until the fuel in the lines runs out  :)
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: SiH on October 15, 2008, 12:36:52 PM
Remove the ignition amp :)
Title: Disabling car?
Post by: trotter on October 17, 2008, 11:32:28 AM
Quote from: Kevin;541733Damn.... Thats abit extreme!!...

I pay a fair heafty whack for trade insurance for my company each year so thats not really a problem.

The thing that would annoy me the most is someone driving off in something you\'ve worked really hard for.  Hence the whole topic of disabling, as i think i\'d rather see it in flames than pure profit in someone elses pocket, if you get what i mean?

Yeah, theres a thread on here somewhere...

Guy had an Evo 6 RS450 (Ralliart only made about 4) theytorched it, handbrake cable snapped and it rolled into his RS4 and also set fire to that and his Pug 205 Gti :reallymad :reallymad

I would say removing the ignition fuse would be a good move, and if you\'re really paranoid - replace it with an identical one thats already blown....