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General => General Technical => Topic started by: skillz on September 04, 2008, 10:12:59 AM

Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: skillz on September 04, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
i have a question about if anyone can answer for me... im in the process of converting to a single t51 turbo and on the external waste gate theres 2 nipples/valves, can anyone tell me where they go and wether with an apexi avcr, does one get blanked off or does it go to the plenim chamber???

many thanks skillz
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: logicalChimp on September 04, 2008, 10:36:25 AM
Quick tip, mate - you want to post this sort of thing in the technical forum, not the technical stickies :D  (might be why your previous post got locked)

As to your question, I\'m afraid i don\'t have a clue (still got stock twins myself ;))
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: nikp on September 04, 2008, 10:59:36 AM
I believe that boost pressure usually goes to the bottom port, and boost controlled pressure goes to the top port. It might differ depending on boost controller though. Some controllers might just go to the bottom port with top port open to atmos. So, it\'s probably a case of reading the boost controller instructions.

The bottom port is there is open the wastegate, the top port is there is apply pressure against the wastegate to helpkeep it shut.

I have the Greddy Profec B spec 2, and that requires boost pressure to the bottom port, and the solenoid controlled pressure to the top port. The solenoid will then open and close to keep the wastegate shut or open as required
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: hairyhoover on September 04, 2008, 11:00:13 AM
the nipple on the side will need to be connected to the vacuum side of the turbo EG between filter and turbo (or you can tap a connection on to your compressor housing) This hold the waste gate shut which will help turbo spool.
 
The told nipple need to go to your boost controller or UIM/LIM or somewhere on your boost pipes.
 
Does that make sense?
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: hairyhoover on September 04, 2008, 11:01:09 AM
oh dear!!!! LOL
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: Brett on September 04, 2008, 11:08:48 AM
Moved into correct section ;)
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: skillz on September 04, 2008, 11:40:22 AM
still a little confused lol but thanks hehe
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: hairyhoover on September 04, 2008, 11:53:41 AM
i think im right! but then i would.
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: FD3UK on September 04, 2008, 11:58:18 AM
AVCR manual Clicky (http://www.apexi-usa.com/pdfInstallation/45.pdf)

Manual page 44 (PDF page 46) shows wastegate connections, with & without boost controller.
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: hairyhoover on September 04, 2008, 02:08:23 PM
thats odd the blitz add shows the connection on the vacuum side of the turbo
Title: waste gate trouble
Post by: FD3UK on September 04, 2008, 04:23:20 PM
Quotethats odd the blitz add shows the connection on the vacuum side of the turbo

That will not work, wastegate needs boost source to open it.