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Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on July 28, 2008, 07:15:19 PM
Hi i am trying to find information on mapping the apexi. though i know it is not something you can pick up in 5 minutes and it would be silly to try doing it until you are 100% confident, it is something that i would like to learn. so my question is where can i find the relevant info give me a basic knowledge to start with
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: karl_tate on July 28, 2008, 07:25:27 PM
well have a google of Datalogit which is needed to change all the parameters on the apexi .
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: Bulla on July 28, 2008, 08:21:47 PM
There\'s a great guide on RX7Club.com

Just had a quick look and cant find it now, try searching for Wideband tuning.
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: Hayward North on July 28, 2008, 09:34:22 PM
1st thing to do lee is read as much as you can, just search on whatever you can think of and read, even if you dont understand it now it will eventually all come clear.
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: Hayward North on July 28, 2008, 09:35:10 PM
maybe even download the DL softwear and run it on ya computer as it will help you understand it a little better.
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: nikp on July 28, 2008, 09:35:34 PM
There is info online. Most of it on rx7club. I am learning myself too.

Hardware required is a datalogit kit (Comes with software) and a wideband lambda sensor, controller and gauge (Which i am currently wiring in to mine!).
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on July 28, 2008, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: steve garbutt;520250maybe even download the DL softwear and run it on ya computer as it will help you understand it a little better.

 
Hi steve do you have a link as to where i can get this software.
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on July 28, 2008, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: nikp;520251There is info online. Most of it on rx7club. I am learning myself too.
 
Hardware required is a datalogit kit (Comes with software) and a wideband lambda sensor, controller and gauge (Which i am currently wiring in to mine!).

 
Which kit did you go for
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: Hayward North on July 28, 2008, 10:18:57 PM
Lee squirt me a pm for the datalogit software.

As for wideband go for the mucho reliable innovate lc-1 as its a doddle to fix up to the datalogit, lc1 + gauge are about 170 or £45 less without a gauge , i dont see the point of a gauge as if you could see lean then its prolly allready to late.

The datalogit isnt a kit lee its just a box that transfers data between a laptop and an apexi pfc, they can be purchased for about £200.
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: nikp on July 28, 2008, 10:42:45 PM
And they come with the software. I don\'t think the software is particularly easily found on the net, is it? Or has someone managed to get hold of it?

I\'ve gone for this kit: http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=101

It uses the common bosch wideband, and a gauge capable of showing lambda and also EGTs. Just need the EGT sensor not. Dead easy to wire up. You can do data logging using this kit, but I want to take the feed off it and log lambda and EGT onto the datalogit (Which you can do - but i need to figure out which cables i need to splice into!!)
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on July 31, 2008, 02:34:18 PM
just been looking at widebands, would i be correct in saying if i went for the lm2 kit that would include dataloggit or am i reading there ad wrong
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: BlitzBoy on July 31, 2008, 02:43:22 PM
no the LM2 wont get you a datalogit lol, LM2 will get you logworks (logging of AFR against rpm,boost etc), Datalogit is purchased from a New Zealand company, Datalogit allows your laptop to talk to the Apexi ECU and change map settings
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: nikp on July 31, 2008, 02:47:10 PM
The wideband kit that i showed will do data logging too. (But not datalogit!)
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on July 31, 2008, 02:59:49 PM
thanks chaps found it now. Blitzboy i know you do a lot of mapping which wdeband would you recomend
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: BlitzBoy on July 31, 2008, 03:05:09 PM
Personally I use the LM1 kit as I can easily transfer it from one car to another , as its used on multiple cars, but to be honest they are all good if they use the bosch sensor
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: nikp on July 31, 2008, 03:06:23 PM
True, it is easily transferred. But mine is for my own personnal use, so that\'s good for me (Yes, mine also uses the bosch sensor - nearly all of them do in fact)
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on July 31, 2008, 03:10:49 PM
Quote from: nikp;520990True, it is easily transferred. But mine is for my own personnal use, so that\'s good for me (Yes, mine also uses the bosch sensor - nearly all of them do in fact)

mine will only be for personal use once ive read and mastered a lot more info lol.
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: Bulla on August 04, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: lee mills;520181Hi i am trying to find information on mapping the apexi. though i know it is not something you can pick up in 5 minutes and it would be silly to try doing it until you are 100% confident, it is something that i would like to learn. so my question is where can i find the relevant info give me a basic knowledge to start with
Thanks
Lee

Here\'s that guide from RX7Club

http://kong.cc/rx7/rx7_tuning.pdf
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: fil_auto on August 04, 2008, 12:34:45 PM
Bulla...

hi m8 - off topic but are you heading to rotorstock at the w/e?

Phil.
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on August 04, 2008, 12:49:09 PM
Quote from: Bulla;521809Here\'s that guide from RX7Club
 
http://kong.cc/rx7/rx7_tuning.pdf

 
Thanks mate downloaded it already & slowly working my way through it
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: Bulla on August 04, 2008, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: fil_auto;521811Bulla...

hi m8 - off topic but are you heading to rotorstock at the w/e?

Phil.

Hi Phil,

Yes will be although I\'ll be the one driving slowly due to running a new engine in ! What days are you going ? Is there an MK convoy ?

Bulla
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: fil_auto on August 04, 2008, 02:52:36 PM
That\'s cool - will be taking it stead-ish too.....

Am planning on picking my m8 up from Bicester and ( although not confirmed yet ) prob head back over towards MK and poss link up with Nurgurgrob n his brother martinplus160.....

Will see how that materialises....

So, if I\'m over Bicester way - poss we could hook up there and then cruise to MK - convoy up and then to the POD!! #;o)

Oh n going up Sunday m8.....


Quote from: Bulla;521855Hi Phil,

Yes will be although I\'ll be the one driving slowly due to running a new engine in ! What days are you going ? Is there an MK convoy ?

Bulla
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: Bulla on August 04, 2008, 03:38:33 PM
Quote from: fil_auto;521856That\'s cool - will be taking it stead-ish too.....

Am planning on picking my m8 up from Bicester and ( although not confirmed yet ) prob head back over towards MK and poss link up with Nurgurgrob n his brother martinplus160.....

Will see how that materialises....

So, if I\'m over Bicester way - poss we could hook up there and then cruise to MK - convoy up and then to the POD!! #;o)

Oh n going up Sunday m8.....

Sounds good , can either meet you in Bicester or back in MK, bout the same distance for me. PM me your number and what time your thinking of going.

Bulla
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: fil_auto on August 04, 2008, 03:54:48 PM
Good stuff m8 - can\'t PM quite yet ( waiting for membership to propogate ) so here\'s me mojo: 07977 269 156.
Think the plan is to be there for 10ish....

Phil.



Quote from: Bulla;521867Sounds good , can either meet you in Bicester or back in MK, bout the same distance for me. PM me your number and what time your thinking of going.

Bulla
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: nikp on August 04, 2008, 05:51:17 PM
Lee, if you fancy meeting up in Bristol before going up to rotorstock, then I can show you what kit i have, and the software for mapping if you like?
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on August 04, 2008, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: nikp;521904Lee, if you fancy meeting up in Bristol before going up to rotorstock, then I can show you what kit i have, and the software for mapping if you like?

 
sounds good mate what time you thinking of going. i was planning on leaving early about 8am so would be at bristol for 9ish. are you going to rotorstock for the weekend
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: nikp on August 04, 2008, 08:15:41 PM
Yeah, I\'m going to rotorstock for the weekend.

We can supply you with a cuppa too - pitstop kinda thing!
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: lee mills on August 04, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: nikp;521934Yeah, I\'m going to rotorstock for the weekend.
 
We can supply you with a cuppa too - pitstop kinda thing!

 
Ok no probs if you give me your postcode & house number i can stick it in the sat nav
probably best to pm me with details
Thanks
Lee
Title: apexi mapping
Post by: nikp on August 04, 2008, 09:36:29 PM
PM sent :)