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General => General Technical => Topic started by: RedRummy on July 18, 2008, 10:20:44 AM

Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: RedRummy on July 18, 2008, 10:20:44 AM
I\'m looking to get a new set of gauges soon, nothing too expensive, maybe the Autometer ones or the Splitfire ones..

I need oil temp, water temp, oil press etc

Thing is.. most of the gauges have very wide ranging temperature scales.. like the one below, but my oil temp only really goes from 70-100 (once up to temp)..  more than 3/4 of the gauge is watsed space..... any chance of getting a gauge with a smaller scale and more detailed readings?

(http://www.opieoils.co.uk/images/PRODUCT/medium/1064.jpg)
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: sickboy2345 on July 18, 2008, 10:34:10 AM
go defi mate
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: SiH on July 18, 2008, 10:39:42 AM
tbh dude that should do you fine - basically the main purpose s going to be to check it\'s below 120ish, and above 70ish - as long as it\'s in this range you\'re all good, providing you are not using it for hardcore data logging.

At the cheaper end of the scale, Autometer make some pretty good kit :)
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: RedRummy on July 18, 2008, 10:42:58 AM
my oil will NEVER get to 120 if I have anything to do with it...  :2eek:2eek

I always cool down if it goes even slightly above 100deg C

really need a scale of say zero (or maybe 40) to 120 max. covering whole dial face.
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: sickboy2345 on July 18, 2008, 10:49:34 AM
i got a nice set of the cheap ones from ebay mate - they work great
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: RedRummy on July 18, 2008, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: sickboy2345;517879i got a nice set of the cheap ones from ebay mate - they work great

Defi\'s?

had a look and they\'re about £100 a guage!

would love some Defi\'s, but can\'t afford it right now :(

Wouldn\'t need new ones at all but the HKS ones I\'ve got have very small diamters and won\'t fit in the gauge pod...  much less than 52mm
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: sickboy2345 on July 18, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
i have got those:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370057539997&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=024

thats how they look in my car;
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8592/dsc00059ny9.jpg)

dont know if you can get them, but there ius some nice ones, im sure you will find something mate.

this one looks nice:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/52mm-BRAND-NEW-WATER-TEMPERATURE-GAUGE_W0QQitemZ120283399388QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120283399388&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

or that one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/52mm-BRAND-NEW-EL-WATER-TEMPERATURE-GAUGE_W0QQitemZ120284174183QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120284174183

btw:
you dont need an aftermarket oil pressure one..stock one works perfect.
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 18, 2008, 11:52:18 AM
The stock oil pressure gauge works fine, it\'s the sender that usually goes phut. Mine can show differences of up to 2 bar from the hyper-sensitive super-accurate GReddy one I fitted after-market, if it reacts at all.

Speaking of which, RedRummy, when I had my new memory gauges installed, I left the old oil pressure gauge that came out with Jason at Super 7 so he could use it to test the new wiring. As usually happens with the man, I never got it back! It\'s a GReddy white face 60mm one, the old style without the peak hold and memory functions, but it works fine, it\'d just need a sender (or wire into the stock one if it works!). You\'re welcome to blag it off Jason when you\'re next up there if you want it, it\'s no use to me and he\'s usually amenable to swapsies! Unless you want a matched set, of course, in which case it may not be too useful!
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: marco on July 18, 2008, 12:31:11 PM
from memory my stack oil temp gauge goes from 40-140ish, so has a pretty good scale. they also do their water temp and oil pressure in mechanical so are nice and cheap! oil temp is electric only though...

linky if you are interested (http://www.stackltd.com/instruments.html)
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: SiH on July 18, 2008, 12:43:39 PM
Quote from: RedRummy;517877my oil will NEVER get to 120 if I have anything to do with it...  :2eek:2eek

I always cool down if it goes even slightly above 100deg C

really need a scale of say zero (or maybe 40) to 120 max. covering whole dial face.

That\'s pretty cautious ;)

I really would go with decent quality gauges rather than eBay specials - Autometer are proven to work but still cheap, likewise with the suggested stack ones.
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Kash_ on July 18, 2008, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Nik da Greek;517897The stock oil pressure gauge works fine, it\'s the sender that usually goes phut.

Where is the stock oil pressure sender located?
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: mpk490p on July 18, 2008, 12:51:19 PM
i have some of these, very nice and good company to deal with althought the oil range is quite big

http://www.rspec.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_84

there are some pictures of them lit up in my link below

Mark
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Bobbit on July 18, 2008, 12:55:48 PM
Quote from: mpk490p;517907i have some of these, very nice and good company to deal with althought the oil range is quite big

http://www.rspec.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_84

there are some pictures of them lit up in my link below

Mark

These look nice. I\'ve got a 60mm twin a-pillar holder so i need some gauge\'s, thanks for that link bud, sorry for hijack
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: mpk490p on July 18, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
ive been happy with them good price and good gauges IMO

Mark
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 18, 2008, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: Kash_;517905Where is the stock oil pressure sender located?

Not exactly sure, but it\'s down somewhere on the housing beneath the oil filter, IIRC. I just put a nice new GReddy one into a sandwich plate rather than try to use the stock one, since it was likely to be the reason my oil pressures were apparently all over the place. That meant I could also keep the stock gauge connected, as I\'d rather it was working, even erratically than just sitting in the instrument cluster doing nothing.
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: BlitzBoy on July 18, 2008, 01:36:11 PM
check me Defis I fitted last night :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OpWNH_YWlMM
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Bobbit on July 18, 2008, 01:40:01 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;517923check me Defis I fitted last night :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OpWNH_YWlMM

That beeping would drive me insane, they do look good tho
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: BlitzBoy on July 18, 2008, 01:45:23 PM
ah its all configurable the peak warning beeps and limits or switch them off
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 18, 2008, 01:46:59 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;517923check me Defis I fitted last night :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OpWNH_YWlMM

Well cool! You\'re never going to get tired of watching that little start-up routine. Best place to mount them, too, as I\'ve found out since trying my third setup, in about the same place! Just in eyeline, but not too ott in your peripheral vision. I only found out the centre speaker in my dash wasn\'t connected to anything when it came out to for the wiring for the gauges! Very humble compared to your swish Defis, though;
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Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: BlitzBoy on July 18, 2008, 01:55:11 PM
The Defis are the only good bit of my interior at the moment lol got half my tools in there
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 18, 2008, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;517935The Defis are the only good bit of my interior at the moment lol got half my tools in there

The rest of it seems pretty cool, though. Had a mooch at your other videos from that link you put to YouTube, and I thought "here she comes" might be something a bit saucy, lol...and it was :Giggle!

I just realised why you picked that title, you can hear the damn turbo before anything else :yes! Just hilarious, you\'re never gonna get tired of that, either!
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: BlitzBoy on July 18, 2008, 02:32:48 PM
I think you highlighted the lack of women in my vids I think I need to correct that lol
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: sickboy2345 on July 18, 2008, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Kash_;517905Where is the stock oil pressure sender located?


The sending unit is the real dirty piece that is screwed into the oil filter pedestal. There is no oil filter in the picture but those braided SS lines go down to the oil filter pedestal. Hope this helps.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/dshays/Rx7/RX-7_engine_web_003.jpg)
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Laeeq on July 18, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
Quote from: sickboy2345;517969The sending unit is the real dirty piece that is screwed into the oil filter pedestal. There is no oil filter in the picture but those braided SS lines go down to the oil filter pedestal. Hope this helps.

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/dshays/Rx7/RX-7_engine_web_003.jpg)

that looks to me as after markeet sandwich plate with oil temp and presure sensors in.  The stock one is right underneath where the oil filter sits.
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Archbish on July 18, 2008, 05:36:44 PM
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/aurora/  very cool dials, and not huge amounts of cashola...
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: RedRummy on July 18, 2008, 08:39:34 PM
Thanks for the links guys, some nice setups there.... would love a set of defis, especially the ones that show the digital readout of the gauges as well as speed and rpm lol

How about this setup though... pretty cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRx7R8KwX_8&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRx7R8KwX_8&NR=1)
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: Nik da Greek on July 18, 2008, 08:42:24 PM
Hee, hee, nice arrangement, shame it\'s in a Datsun! I soooooo wanted it to make the noise out of Star Trek when they flip open their communicators, reckon he\'s missed a trick there! :Giggle
Title: useful temperature gauges....
Post by: RedRummy on July 18, 2008, 10:25:34 PM
Thanks for the offer of the oil press gauge though bud, nice one!

Think I will stick with stock oil pressure and just replace what I\'ve got now... oil temp water temp and fuel pressure..

bit pointless getting another fuel pressure gauges cos I\'ve no idea how to read it... what is it for anyway?  pressure of the fuel where?   LOL... but i need to to fill the third gauge hole:rollin

might get one of those gauges that shows a clock..  :chat