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General => General Technical => Topic started by: RemarkLima on June 27, 2008, 09:08:04 AM

Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: RemarkLima on June 27, 2008, 09:08:04 AM
I\'m really having a hard time trying to find somewhere to get rid o fthe stuff... I\'ve phoned the council but need to ring back later as their system is down ATM.

But just googling around and it seems that it\'s really vague as to what to do in the UK, some people saying just dilute and other saying flush it down the loo into the sewers (where at least it\'ll get treated).

But for something so toxic I\'m really surprised that there\'s basically zero guidance on it... How does everyone else get rid of their old anti freeze?
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: JohnnyP on June 27, 2008, 09:22:51 AM
I had the same problem. Council said it\'s illegal to pour down drains, but try your local garage as they have to dispose of it safely. I tried my local dump, they have a container for engine oil but not antifreeze. Ended up pouring it in plastic bottles and chucking it in the household waste skip! Not my preferred option but as usual the council were of little use.
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: RemarkLima on June 27, 2008, 10:01:05 AM
Shame it\'s not an easy thing to get rid of TBH... I\'ll check with the local mechs as they must know a way to safely get it disposed of.

Otherwise down the loo seems the most sensible option if the council can\'t come up with the info!
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: Prof on June 27, 2008, 11:29:01 AM
It\'s mostly the Ethylene Glycol in the antifreeze that\'s the reason it\'s considered poisonous.
 
Becuase of it\'s sweet taste, animals and children can ingest large amounts of it - causing toxicity.
 
Alcohol is an active inhibitor of poisoning by it, no wonder the french got away with putting it in their cheaper wines ! :Nono!
 
Wiki Article here:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol
 
It\'s destroyed by heating (120 deg C plus), and probably broken down in the sewer/drain by bacterial agents.
 
This site:
 
http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/~hmc/hsci/chemicals/ethylene_glycol.html
 
says small amounts may be flushed down the sink if permitted by local regs, but larger quantities should be disposed of as \'Liquid Waste\'
 
Also found this:  http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=63404
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: g11ary on June 27, 2008, 12:09:17 PM
Was going to say I normally drink it hehe
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: RemarkLima on June 27, 2008, 01:55:24 PM
Cheers Prof! I saw the HonestJohn link which is where I thought th sewer would be one of the more responsible options... In a bizarre way.
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: Swanny_UK on June 27, 2008, 02:18:00 PM
I dispose of it down the toilet. As you\'ve said - it\'ll get treated that way.  Drains etc wont get treated, and may run straight into waterways.  I\'ve phoned our local council several times to get confirmation of what they want me to do with it but they havnt got a clue. :2Confused
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: RemarkLima on June 27, 2008, 03:25:06 PM
Cheers Swanny, glad to get some confirmation... Anything left I\'ll stick into the home made wine :D
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: FDAsh on June 28, 2008, 06:59:16 PM
When Ive changed radiators in the past I just left it to dry up on my garage floor or put sand on it, and shovelled it into the bin.
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: Timmy on June 28, 2008, 07:14:12 PM
Flushing it is ok apparently. http://www.wasteaware.org.uk/db/material.cfm?id=54
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: RobbieRX-7 on June 29, 2008, 02:36:47 AM
Dump mine in the garden along with the oil. My plants are proper tough, like bouncers
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: Martiny on June 29, 2008, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: Swanny_UK;512514I dispose of it down the toilet. As you\'ve said - it\'ll get treated that way.  Drains etc wont get treated, and may run straight into waterways.  I\'ve phoned our local council several times to get confirmation of what they want me to do with it but they havnt got a clue. :2Confused

????????????????

My drain and my toilet waste go to the same pipe!
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: bluerx on June 30, 2008, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: RobbieRX-7;512853Dump mine in the garden along with the oil. My plants are proper tough, like bouncers

PMSL. Treat em mean, keep em keen ;)

+ 1 vote loo. It can\'t be any worse than what my toilet has to deal with on a daily basis.
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: RemarkLima on June 30, 2008, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: Martiny;512992????????????????

My drain and my toilet waste go to the same pipe!

Do they? That\'s weird... My drains (for rain, guttering, bath, sink, shower water etc...) all go into the open drains around the house, but the toilet goes into a seperate sealed pipe (with a vent above the house) into seperate sewers.

Seems to be the norm around this way!

Don\'t think my veggie patch would like the antifreeze tho\'... And I\'d not be too keen to eat it afterwards!
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: ashc on July 03, 2008, 08:10:02 PM
my local tip manager said pour it in the engine oil recycling tank there, he said it was for all nasty fluids - so i did!!! it is pretty toxic to fish even in trace amounts, so i feel a bit guilty about drains!
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: RemarkLima on July 04, 2008, 08:03:57 AM
Good to hear ash, I\'ll ask next time I\'m dropping bits down to the recycling depot!
Title: Disposal of Antifreeze?
Post by: David Nock (RIP) on July 05, 2008, 03:51:26 PM
Quote from: ashc;514027my local tip manager said pour it in the engine oil recycling tank there, he said it was for all nasty fluids - so i did!!! it is pretty toxic to fish even in trace amounts, so i feel a bit guilty about drains!
I think the tip manager is wrong. Surely the waste oil is for recycling? I doubt it\'ll be any good with antifreeze in it?
PS, thanks for the confirmation about foul drains being OK for antifreeze. I\'ve wondered what to do with it (properly) for years.