As above, seeing as I am having problems finding a n/a engine to go in my fc rx, I have no turned to my other choice of a turbo II engine in her, have found a few fc turbo engines for good money with low mileage, questions is what extra parts will i need to make it all work i.e. ecu, loom, mounts etc please advise me to keep the old girl going!?! Many thanks James :D
mounts are probably the same, but you\'ll need the loom and ecu for starters. Plus the Turbo engine has the top mount intercooler, so you\'ll need the TII bonnet with the scoop in it unless you want to go front mount.
I\'m sure there is more to it than that.
Cheers, yer prob just get a fmic, also prefer the look of the standard bonnet, thanks!
theres A LOT more to it than that LOL!
The engine will go straight in. you will also need the front part of the exhaust to Y pipe
You will also need to do a fair but of wiring to make it go. ask PDTalyor - im sure he had a couple of EGI engines.
theres an EGI on ebay for £250... might be worth a punt just for its engine?
Right sure just be a case of shorting or lengthing part of my stainless steel system, the guy from RE:Worx is doing the job, which he has done before.
Yer was looking at that one earlier but i\'ll just end up with same problem as i have now, a rebuild! Which is what i am trying to avoid,
You will want the gearbox too, and the dash etc
what makes you think a 2nd hand turbo II engine wont die any quicker than a 2nd hand egi?
No not saying that at all, just if i am gonna be throwing money at the car like i have to i wouldn\'t mind making some gain out of the how thing. The shell of my rx is really clean & rust free, plus it is black like i always wanted, so for the extra it cost a turbo engine in its worth it. me thinks (which is alot easier to get hold than an egi engine), i brought an egi engine from a jap importer (the only egi engine i found) it arrived & was the 4port model so had to go back, i have now found a few companies with turbo engines low milage & half year garuntees on them for the same price, so this is my 2nd choice, 3rd choice is to then either get my egi rebuilt or find a low mileage car & use the engine.
well demonrx4 is selling his egi for £250. may be the same one that was mentioned earlyier. Depending on how much work you want to do, if you took the engine out of that, replaced the apex and water seals im sure you wouldnt end up spending too much money, and you would have a decent engine
Is he indeed, do you know where it is advertised & the details of the car?? Well the whole reason i am doing all of this is because my water seal has gone on my egi engine she only has 80,000miles on here so trying to avoid the 2k+ rebuild bill.... if i can!
not sure where its advertised, went to see it yestruday tho. The engine has 80k original miles and engine, its got some wicked dials too :D. Paint work isn\'t too good but there isn\'t any rust apart from the sunroof. I belive it has an uprated panel filter. It doesn\'t have mot or tax. Its an E reg with the old spoiler.
i think it would we great for the engine tbh, i was thinking of buying it myself but ive decided to go down the turbo route in the future.
The main thing is the engine doesn\'t need a rebuild so if you were to partially rebuild it it would be cheaper than to rebuild yours
if you have a good shell you would be better off buying a rotten turbo 2 for 3 or 4 hundred quid, get them side by side and swap what you need.
some items will include,
diff, prop, fuel pump, down pipe, gearbox, clutch, engine, ecu, all engine bay bits, like air flow meter, MAP sensor etc etc etc
Yer my plan but have been searching but no luck :( so is why i am also serching for an engine.
James a good TII engine might cost you £500 or so, it really would be worth your while in getting a good scrap TII with a good engine. You will need so many bits. My white FC went from a S4 TII(JDM) to a S5 TII(UK) and the work in that was all electrical. I had to change the entire car harness from the front right to the back tail lights. Its not a bad job and gives you the chance to get things tidied and re-wrapped. In your case is your car pre-1989? If you are going to go for a TII engine then you might as well go for the later 1989 ones as they were better BHP wise, turbos were better and generally I am finding the spares are easier to find for the TII 1989 and up.
People have already stated what has to be changed so dont underestimate the work involved, its straight forward but going to be time consuming.
Good point. mine is an 89\' so guess it came with the slightly more powerful engine..... im looking for a TII but struggling!!
all UK turbo cars were series 5 so they all have powerful engines :D
But mine was an n/a??
James if this is the way you are going then just buy a 1989 S5 or later scrap car with a good engine and swop everything over that you need. Jobs done.
all uk N/A\'s were series 4 which means 146bhp @ standard. Regardless of the year
Yep, I was purely stating the differences between the TII engines only. Quite a few people have done this in the USA so if you log onto the Rx7club.com site there is a lot of info on there for this swop.
Right at last have had a good chat with an expert & we have decided to put an RX 8 engine in her, so lets see where this takes me lol
been done before, plenty of threads on that one but the cost is gonna be high !!
has anyone supercharged an EGI engine? must be an add on kit you can buy, imagine with the rigt charger you could get some pretty good results, temps should be lower as well, what with no turbo. Not sure what the drain on the engine is though and you might have to lose a few things to make it fit.
i doubt theres a kit, there used to be a turbo kit but apparently this is no more.
Yer looking foreward to the swap & end result will be interesting.... cost wise is only a little more than it wa to get my egi rebuilt so well worth it ;)
cool 2nd gen with rx8 engine looking forward to the results, should be as quick as a stock Turbo II
Yer me too should be done within a couple of weeks :). Should be quick even thou i am unaware of the FC turbos bhp... it will have a induction kit, with a decent cold air feed, free flowing exhaust, running of a Motec M2R & i believe the fc is roughly 100kg lighter than the rx8 so am hoping for bout 245bhp.... what you reakons??
yep it should hit that at the flywheel 240bhp about 180bhp at the wheels, be much quicker then an rx8 with it having more power and less weight, TurboII are 200bhp mostly at the fly they have more torque then the RX8 engine, but you will have a much higher rev limit at around 9k or more , should sound real nice
wow, so are you sourcing a used engine or building one from scratch?
its sounding like a great idea :D
Picking up a 231bhp 06\' rx8 engine & 6 speed gearbox on friday she has done 33k
dont forget you will need all the things like ECU and any other add on bits. Is this going to be a straight swop? no mods to the RX8 engine? its been done before and I look forward to seeing this. A RX8 lump in a cab would have been nice and classy. My mate wants me to stick a 13b in a Corsa for rallying but i\'ll start another thread on that one.
post plenty of pics.
Jackson racing do a supercharger kit for the 13B and 12A
James, we will need to see lots of pics etc for this conversion!
Can;t wait to see and hear it running - Renisis without the CATS! :D
Had the pleasure of tailing an EGI yesterday - they are pretty quick stock, due to the lightness of the car - so with the extra beenies in the RX8 engine you are going to have quite a quick motor there :)
Just out of interest, what\'s the weight difference between the Renesis engine and the 13B egi lump ? I am guessing it\'s lighter ? :)
Yer have got a list of all i\'ll need which is coming with my engine & gearbox only other thing i needs is the Motec M2R, like i said Jeff from RE:Worx is doing the conversion & has done it before so he is the man lol. Not too sure on the differences but there are alot more powerful, guessing a little lighter too, seems to be alot of plastic parts in place of metal ones too. So all the UK egi\'s where 146bhp??? Mine seemed alot more powerful than that??