I need to get the wheel alignment done on the rx7 at some point as i still havant managed to get it done after fitting the coilovers ages ago. Drove the car today and the suspension and handling dont feel right, probably majorly out.
I dont want to take it to a tyre place as most of the people who work in them dont have half a braincell, and when i have taken the car to them before in the past they always moan its too low so they cant do the alignment.
Anyone know of any good places to have it done in bath/bristol area??
i went to Micheldever the other week; full laser alignment rig there seems very good.
www.micheldever.co.uk (http://www.micheldever.co.uk) i think.....not that far from you....i went up there from Brighton
Andy
Why not come over to us?
We can get this sorted for you!!
Quote from: AtomicRex;494417Why not come over to us?
We can get this sorted for you!!
are you a garage now then? I thought you\'d branched into parts but...
?
Quote from: Papercup;494239....i went up there from Brighton
Andy
Mate, DiscountTyres in worthing have a good laser rig.
Quote from: AtomicRex;494417Why not come over to us?
We can get this sorted for you!!
I may take you up on this offer too if thats ok?
Been meaning to get mine done for ages!
Quote from: Lum;495803I may take you up on this offer too if thats ok?
Been meaning to get mine done for ages!
so thats why your back end keeps going out when u boot it in a straight line, your wheels arent straight :p
must report in with a great experience i just had at Wheels in Motion
got new sussies on the car and with ride height changes it was handling horribly...booked in here and Tony was fantastic; knew exactly what i meant as i described how it used to be and what was wrong now, set it all up on the rig and knew exactly what to do to make it right.
100% thumbs up
Micheldever were a waste of time. Nice rig but no clue what to do with it, like a lot of tyre places.
It was £99 and once i have tracked it i can go back for fine tuning for free.
Andy
Quotemust report in with a great experience i just had at Wheels in Motion,
Where are they please?
Quote from: ro284;504305Where are they please?
http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/
Wheels in Motion
Tony Bones
The Victor Robert Saunders Building, Unit 33, Chess Business park, Moor Road Chesham, Bucks HP5 1SD
Tel: 01494 797825
Friend has just had his MX5 set up by Tony and is over the moon with the setup and service.
WIM Is where i am going once i\'ve replaced all my pillowballs, i have heard NOTHING but good things about the work Tony does.
I took my last car to PowerStation and to be honest wasn\'t impressed, they charged what i considered to be over the odds, and 2 of my adjustable arms came loose afterwards as they hadn\'t been sufficiently tightened.
I\'m located down near gatwick airport, anyone suggest a decent place to get alignment done around here? Just fitted some coilovers so want to make sure all ok ;)
Quote from: Twin40;504545I\'m located down near gatwick airport, anyone suggest a decent place to get alignment done around here? Just fitted some coilovers so want to make sure all ok ;)
as above, wheels in motion. Its only first junction off the M4 so from you its a short jaunt up the M23 and round the M25...probably about an hour from you, non-rush hour. I did it in under an hour and a half from Brighton with the Rex on a trailer behind my pick-up.
bear in mind Tony set mine up and kept the settings saved you\'ll have a good start
top guy, happy to stand and talk cars and took several pictures of mine. Proper petrolhead.
Nice one, cheers for that...love having my rx7 so low - it looks :InLove
just booked in to these guys for tomorrow :D
all done and sorted, well worth the money, props to wheels inmotion!
QuoteNice one, love having my rx7 so low
Twin40, How low have you got it? what measurement do you have from the ground up to bottom of front lip splitter/spoiler, mine is 5 inches. cant run much lower as front wheels hit the arches, but will clear most speed humps!
Just got back from Wheels in motion today, big respect to Tony, the guy obviously knows his stuff and is very proffesional about his work...my 7 handles like it should do now!! Well worth the money imo...
Oh and there was a 650bhp Lexus IS200 drift car ouside aswell ;)
i\'ll post pics up in a bit...
Yeah my rx is about 5 inches from the ground too!!..
Can anyone reccomend someone who knows what he/she is doing with the RX with regards to alignment up north? Should i have asked Pip whilst i was there at the weekend?
Quote from: T11MNM;505892Can anyone reccomend someone who knows what he/she is doing with the RX with regards to alignment up north? Should i have asked Pip whilst i was there at the weekend?
Pip do 4 wheel alignment for £100 I think...might as well get it done there if you having work done anyway.
Well i got my Alignment done at last, £47 altogether! 2 men working on the car for 90 minutes! tough nuts! thought that was good! Anyone care to comment on these settings please, the car seems very planted and stable/balanced, Well pleased, This was done by Christchurch Tyres in Dorset
Cheers Bob
Any thoughts anyone please, i asked for Long Track settings!
Cheers Bob
Quote from: ro284;516795Any thoughts anyone please, i asked for Long Track settings!
Cheers Bob
Not sure what that means.....you mean you wanted it good on long tracks? How\'s that different to a short track? Surely the length of the corners is more relevant than the overall length? Sorry if i am being dim. Maybe you mean stable in sweeping corners?
Anyway, i had mine set-up at Wheels in Motion a while back. Mine is set-up for neutral at the limit, to mild understeer. Safer that way.
1. You can go into a corner flat chat, take feet off the pedals and turn; it will either understeer or turn, depending on whether you are carrying too much speed or not. If it understeers it will do so until it grips and turns. No oversteer, no nasty surprises. Difficult to test on the road without a big, empty roundabout you know well that you can basically go into too fast.
2. You can push the front or tighten your line with the throttle, depending on how much right foot you give it, and how fast you push the pedal down. Impossible to test on the road, or you really shouldn\'t be trying to!
I run 2deg camber at the rear, 1.3 at the front.
6 deg caster
virtually no toe front or rear (0.01 front, 0.02 rear - so the same really)
it seems to work fine - shortly after this i won my class at Lydden while sprinting and have a trophy :)
I have heard of running more camber at the front and tried it but i don\'t like it; it makes the initial turn-in quicker but its a lie; you have to adjust the steering again right afterwards as it turns in too fast and needs immediate input to re-adjust. It also makes the car tramline-y and nervous on anything other than a billiard table surface.
Andy
p.s. you know that as soon as you change ride height or sussies you need it done again?
im getting mine corner weighted and lazer aligned next week, i have coilovers and noltec adjustable top mounts so looking for some good results
Mark
Quote from: ro284;516709Well i got my Alignment done at last, £47 altogether! 2 men working on the car for 90 minutes! tough nuts! thought that was good! Anyone care to comment on these settings please, the car seems very planted and stable/balanced, Well pleased, This was done by Christchurch Tyres in Dorset
Cheers Bob
Thats a lot of toe on the front. All it means is you\'ll shag your tyres real fast. All the people i spoke to said run virtually no toe whatsoever.
Opinions differed on the camber settings. Initially i ran 2 at the front and hated it, with 1 at the rear.
Bear in mind standard set-up is 1deg camber all round (i believe). You don\'t seem to be running much at all. My gut feeling is that they\'ve used toe to make it turn in (at the expense of tyre wear), whereas more camber would have been the way to go.
Disclaimer: i\'m no beginner at this but i am happier with bikes...check what i have said with Tony @ Wheels in Motion. He really is a wizard.
Andy
Quote from: mpk490p;516805im getting mine corner weighted and lazer aligned next week, i have coilovers and noltec adjustable top mounts so looking for some good results
Mark
Yes, i had mine corner-weighted first by Re:Worx (who fitted the new Tein Mono Flex, the reason for the changes) before i went to WiM.
Tony @ WiM did not have the corner-weighting kit at the time, he was getting it at \'the end of next month\' (these things are not cheap...).
If he has the kit now i would go to him for the whole lot. In fact i may go back and tweak ride height (lower, how it used to be), knowing that i can ask him to drop it by an inch all round and then corner-weight and geo it again afterwards.
My ride-height was set by Re:Worx at what Tein said it should be for these coilovers....its about 2 inches higher than it was before and we couldn\'t dial in any more caster (I wanted 6.5, no 6) as it was at the end of its adjustment. Changing ride height will bring that scake down a bit and allow me to tweak caster up a little.
(though to be fair, before it was too low to get a jack underneath, even with a special low-level jack, and i had to scissor-jack it up a little to get the trolley under.....and it was a pain with my driveway and speed bumps....its nice now...just doesn\'t look as good! maybe somewhere in between.... ;)
mine is set nearly as low as possible but having driven it for a couple of weeks ive had no problems with rubbing etc so going to get it weighted close to that ride height
ps i have a FB :Thumbs-up
Mark
this has turned into quite an interesting thread :)
whats this about corner weights? i know its pretty odvious what they do, where can you get them from? i take it they must make a big difference to weight distribution and handling
They aren\'t actual weights, it means raising and lowering ride heights on the individual coilovers to make the car sit dead flat. Then you set the geometry on the car up afterwards.
You can go one further, I did. I know that when i race and generally when i trackday i am alone so i had my car corner-weighted with only one seat fitted, and me in the car. Well, that guy at Re:Worx who is built like me ;)
oh, you do it with a special kit that looks like 4 of the scales you have in your bathroom that you sit the car on, one under each wheel. They connect together with a clever computer gizmo that gives you all the weights, diagonals, left-to-rights, front-to-backs, total, etc
So i know my car is 1170 kilos with no fuel in.
yes i wonder if they have a 14st weight!!! :rollin
you will never get 25% weight distribution with the engine up front but you can get close, makes a big differnece to braking and cornering as i say carn\'t wait to get mine set up and out on the track :Thumbs-up
Mark
Quote from: mpk490p;516830yes i wonder if they have a 14st weight!!! :rollin
you will never get 25% weight distribution with the engine up front but you can get close, makes a big differnece to braking and cornering as i say carn\'t wait to get mine set up and out on the track :Thumbs-up
Mark
you mean 50% front to rear weight distribution?
The Rex was designed to be as close to that as possible, hence why the engine is so far back. Proper sports car ;)
Mine was 51.1 rear, 48.9 front with three quarters of a tank in it
Apparently the magic height (for handling rather than looks) for an FD is 25 inches from floor to the top of the wheel arch.
This thread is a good read if you have a while
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=723617
Quote from: Papercup;516835you mean 50% front to rear weight distribution?
The Rex was designed to be as close to that as possible, hence why the engine is so far back. Proper sports car ;)
Mine was 51.1 rear, 48.9 front with three quarters of a tank in it
yes sorry i ment 25% each corner 50-50 front to rear as you say
Mark
Quote from: Spartacus;516836Apparently the magic height (for handling rather than looks) for an FD is 25 inches from floor to the top of the wheel arch.
This thread is a good read if you have a while
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=723617
Fantastic link :Thumbs-up
Just reading....will take all night!
Went out to the garage and measured.....26inch rear, just over that at the front. Looks like i was right to plan to drop it an inch and have it inbetween where it used to be (at least two inches lower than it is now, by my eye) and where it is now.
Interesting geo values:
Tire pressure 30 front 27 rear
Ride height if you have coil overs should be set at 25 inches at the top of each wheelwell.Toe in front between a 1/16 and 1/8th inch
Toe in rear zero
Camber front and rear 1.2 degrees negative
Caster equal minimal
Zero rear thrust angle.Unfortunately i haven\'t got what he means by the toe-in settings as my readouts are in degrees, not inches. Same with \'caster equal minimal\' - what value is that in degrees? His comment lower down the page about it is strange as well; is he suggesting 5 degrees?
I run lower pressures as well; i have found 26 all round to be best on a trackday though i run 24 while sprinting as its only a few laps at a time. Run 24 at a trackday and the tyres go all mushy as they heat up too much after a few laps. Toyo R888s, by the way; sticky rubber.
Dammit, i had other plans this evening :o
papercup - what have you done to reduce weight and get it down to 1170 kilos
Quote from: sweetiewells;517023papercup - what have you done to reduce weight and get it down to 1170 kilos
me - very little.
The guy before (James Baum) - quite a lot. The rear hatch is carbon fibre, rear glass is perspex. Bonnet is glassfibre (i think) Battery is a lightweight bike one. All the interior behind the seats has gone (though most of the front interior is still there). Seats are lightweight recaros. Other stuff i can\'t remember.
I have probably added weight; the 6-pot APs are hardly light. The water injection must add up to a little as well.
The TE37s i got new recently are really light compared to my BBS LMs though; the BBS are CHUNKY.
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Cool sounds good, i read in different places different figures for the standard weight, some say 1250kg some say 1350kg etc
Quote from: sweetiewells;517091Cool sounds good, i read in different places different figures for the standard weight, some say 1250kg some say 1350kg etc
1250kg for a Type R, 1280 for a Touring X.....thats what i heard.