Buying and fitting a brand new engine.
Pros:?
Cons:?
Would you rather rebuild your old one?
Would you change the seals and/or O-rings that come with it?
What would you do to it to improve it? (porting aside)
How much could I sell my old engine for? ( runner, but needs water seals replaced)
Thanks
Checking the prices of a rebuilded and the price of a brand new engine, I\'m inclined to do the latest.
Any help?
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Difficult to comment without figures. (Only know about FB\'s)
How much do you love your car and want to keep it. If it were going to be my long term ride for everyday use I\'d look closely at a new engine - there\'s much less unknown then and things become much simpler. But presumably this secure comfort will come at a price. How much is that price?
It\'s all well and good ordering a 3K engine from RHD..... Then you\'ll get hit for shipping taxes, duty etc. Which based on that will bump the price up considerably. Then there is also the issue of warrenty, assuming that the engine comes over in an ok condition..... Then there is time/money factor of fitting the engine.
You can probably get a rebuilt ported motor with upto 2 year warrenty from a reputable builder in the UK for the kind of money it\'s going to cost you to bring over an engine.
Just my 2p though.
Mmm... yes, warranty at this distance from Japan is a problem I suppose. Can they be got through a UK supplier anywhere?
http://www.rotaryart.uk.com/acatalog/New_Mazda_RX7_3rd_gen_engine_perf_tuning.html
rotaryart list a brand new engine for £5400 inc vat :D
if it were me, i\'d rather do a DIY rebuild - I\'m about to start doing mine at the moment. Loads of online refrence material and help, DVD\'s and stuff. Nothing too complicated.
Well, over here at the dealership it will cost you over £5000.
RHD is selling then for £2800.
This car is mine to keep.
I don\'t want to make it any faster as it is fast enough as it is.
I don\'t know much about engines, but I can see that people over here are blowing their engines all the time, (maybe because of the big turbos and porting:p), all that I want is a standard power engine with a better radiator, intercooler, exhaust and air filters.
Mods will be mainly cosmetical to bring it up to date, and for better handling. I\'ll be changing all of them bushes for poly, Teins superstreet with edfc and a Mazdaspeed PPF.
Getting it rebuilt will be cheaper, plus brighton is very close to super7autos give jason a call and he\'ll give you a rough estimate for best and worst case senario. 01903810139 he just did my rebuild and i thought it was very reasonable.
Quote from: TimmyGetting it rebuilt will be cheaper, plus brighton is very close to super7autos give jason a call and he\'ll give you a rough estimate for best and worst case senario. 01903810139 he just did my rebuild and i thought it was very reasonable.
Yeah, I can second Jason at Super7Atuos... haven\'t had mine rebuild but know a few who have had theirs done there..
He\'s done a lot of the work on my car... :Thumbs-up
Currently the pound is very crappy against the yen, so therefore:
Quote from: RHD JapanOur Price: GBP 3295.91 Shipped to Great Britain (United Kingdom) Express Air Mail
But what I was getting at is that regardless of wether it\'s £2800 to £3295 you will still get nailed on customs duty for bringing a package of that weight and size over so you can add atleast another few hundred quid on the price.
Then there\'s labour/time/money in fitting it. Your not going to have much change out of £4K at the end of it. Believe me we\'ve tried importing engine at our garage and it\'s just not worth it. Especially seeing though you just want a basic spec engine.
I can supply you with a race spec engine for £6800, all brand new housings and rotors. Doweled and pinned large street/race ports and 3mm ceramic tips.
Quote from: MimsI can supply you with a race spec engine for £6800, all brand new housings and rotors. Doweled and pinned large street/race ports and 3mm ceramic tips.
fduk me Mims thats expensive for a race engine even with ceramic tips,porting and pins.
You only need extra dowels and pins if you are running mega boost on a big turbo 2 BAR plus, is this your own engine you are selling, were you planning to make a 600rwhp beastie?
Quote from: BlitzBoyfduk me Mims thats expensive for a race engine even with ceramic tips,porting and pins.
You only need extra dowels and pins if you are running mega boost on a big turbo 2 BAR plus, is this your own engine you are selling, were you planning to make a 600rwhp beastie?
Possibly yes. 600 rwhp twin monster :D still uncertain on what to do with it really and uncertain on whether to go single or mahoosive twins. So might sell and go V8 instead get a reliable 450 bhp. I still want a bridge ported 20b N/A as well too much choice!
Twin 3540s or GT45 at 30psi on race gas on that engine you have there :D
Twin T04Z ??
mmmmm
Quote from: ShiukoWell, over here at the dealership it will cost you over £5000.
RHD is selling then for £2800.
You can\'t buy a new engine anymore through Mazda UK,the ones they sell are remanufactured ones from the USA,which are often not very good engines.
Quote from: KevinBut what I was getting at is that regardless of wether it\'s £2800 to £3295 you will still get nailed on customs duty for bringing a package of that weight and size over so you can add atleast another few hundred quid on the price.
Well, my injector kit cost me £350, and i got nobbled an extra £50 all in all. So for a £3500 engine, it\'ll be in the region of £500! Ouch!
And, as Kevin says, there\'s fitting too.
Well, I supose that it\'ll be cheaper to rebuild the engine if the one I\'ll be getting would be a remanufactured unit anyway.
About Jason, I\'ve taken my car to Super7 when I first bought it and wasn\'t very happy about the service I\'ve received.
I think that he knew that I didn\'t have much idea about my car and decided to charge £600 for just changing the belts and a look over. He told me that there was a problem with one of the turbos no working properly, and ignored that I\'ve told him that there was a coolant leak somewhere.I asked him for a receipt and never got one.
So he got me once, but he won\'t get to see my wallet again.
You still have got two decent choices near you mate, there\'s Dragon Performance and Hayward Rotary I believe....
Go with Hayward. A much better choice IMO
Yes, I spoke to Carl in rotorstock, and he seems a very knowledgeable person, plus everybody in here is happy to praise his work.
The problem is not fixing the engine, the thing is that most of the people will try and overcharge you if you don\'t know exactly what they\'ll have to do and how much should they charge you.
For example: you take your computer for samething simple to fix, the technician sucks his teeth and tells you:
Nah, the motherboard is properly f\'cked, you\'ll need another one that casually I can suply for you. Funny part is that he will charge for your very same old motherboard, and the price of the simple repair that you took it there for.
Why can\'t people be honest?
What happen to a fair pay for a fair day work?
:reallymad( Rant mode OFF ):chat
The nearest rotary specialist to you is Reworx in Portsmouth, they have a website //www.reworx.com they do engine rebuilds
I think Jason\'s problem at Super Seven is his time management skills, or lack of, rather than that he\'s actually trying to rip you off. I\'ve had him work on mine a few times, and the work he\'s done has always been to an excellent standard at a very reasonable price BUT there\'s always a couple of things he runs out of time to finish (such as my fog light switch that\'s under the dash held on with a sticky pad!). I don\'t think he\'d ever cut corners on important work, though, his work on my engine has always been of very high standard, and he\'s helped by pointing out some faults I wasn\'t aware of, too (yes, genuine faults!)
It\'d maybe be better if he just said "no, I won\'t have time to do all that just now, you\'ll have to bring it back later for the other stuff". In a way, though, I\'d rather take my car to someone who\'s too busy than someone who has all the time in the world, it\'s generally for a reason!
Well, at last my car is at Haywards for a rebuild and some extended porting.
Can\'t wait to get it back. :burnout