Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 04, 2004, 08:40:19 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 04, 2004, 08:40:19 PM
Do twin air filters (induction kits) produce more power than the single ones?
Currently have just a large single on the end of the turbo thinking of doing demon tweeks and fitting a double large cone unit any ideas?
Pics below of mine, sorry if its too large not sure how to compress?
Also will a twin fit? if anyone has any pics of a double unit please post so i can calculate possiblities?
Thanks in advance:
Currently have just a large single on the end of the turbo thinking of doing demon tweeks and fitting a double large cone unit any ideas?
Pics below of mine, sorry if its too large not sure how to compress?
Also will a twin fit? if anyone has any pics of a double unit please post so i can calculate possiblities?
Thanks in advance:
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 04, 2004, 08:42:10 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 04, 2004, 08:42:10 PM
Forgot to add:
Can you get units to point in opposite directions as there wont be room to get two in the same way as the intercooler is quite close?
Can you get units to point in opposite directions as there wont be room to get two in the same way as the intercooler is quite close?
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: J4P RX on March 04, 2004, 08:58:36 PM
Post by: J4P RX on March 04, 2004, 08:58:36 PM
Seeing as you have the big single, getting twin filters would be poinltess really. They would both go to the same place, so you wouldnt gain anything.
Cheers
Lee
Cheers
Lee
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 04, 2004, 09:01:28 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 04, 2004, 09:01:28 PM
Would it be possible to get a bigger single filter? as the one i have looks quite dirty and old?
I think alot of people have said its better to get a new one rather than clean the older ones? is this true?
I think alot of people have said its better to get a new one rather than clean the older ones? is this true?
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: J4P RX on March 04, 2004, 09:04:35 PM
Post by: J4P RX on March 04, 2004, 09:04:35 PM
It looks like a HKS one, and if it is you can just buy replacement filter elements.
Cheers
Lee
Cheers
Lee
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: DRAGON on March 04, 2004, 09:17:24 PM
Post by: DRAGON on March 04, 2004, 09:17:24 PM
Lee\'s right, just get a HKS replacement. Most ther cone filters wont fit due to rad location.
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: GaryS on March 04, 2004, 09:20:55 PM
Post by: GaryS on March 04, 2004, 09:20:55 PM
Think the only way you could make the single better would be to get it a feed of cold air, i.e. relocating the filter to a hole in the bonnet in the air flow, or a gap in the nose. lot of work though for comparatively little gains.
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 04, 2004, 09:58:26 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 04, 2004, 09:58:26 PM
hmmm mine look a bit similar & were dirty now cleaned so i guess i could use a new eliment if it\'s same brand i\'ll check tomorrow..... Group buy maybe (http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/ups/dvx_rune/lol.gif) lol
Si
Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 05, 2004, 02:38:41 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 05, 2004, 02:38:41 PM
Thanks for the info guys, any ideas where i can purchase a replacement filter???
And any cost ideas???
And any cost ideas???
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: J4P RX on March 05, 2004, 02:54:04 PM
Post by: J4P RX on March 05, 2004, 02:54:04 PM
Any HKS dealer should have them. you just need to make sure you get the right size as they come in two different sizes.
Im not sure on price, probably around £20-25. It was about £30 last time I got replacement filters, but you need two smaller ones for my set up and I think one bigger one is cheaper.
Lee
Im not sure on price, probably around £20-25. It was about £30 last time I got replacement filters, but you need two smaller ones for my set up and I think one bigger one is cheaper.
Lee
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 05, 2004, 03:17:36 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 05, 2004, 03:17:36 PM
Cheers lee :)
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: bobster on March 05, 2004, 06:39:50 PM
Post by: bobster on March 05, 2004, 06:39:50 PM
It is easy enough to cut the bigger one down to size with scissors. But I would imagine that it would be a bigger one you are after anyway. (matron :rollin )
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 05, 2004, 08:21:31 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 05, 2004, 08:21:31 PM
lol yep mine look like HKS uns as well so definately wana get me a replacement spongy thing (http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/cwm/cwm/uhoh3.gif) well 2 in my case but i\'ll talk with you on Sunday lettice know if you come across any cheap HKS dealers & i\'ll have a look around as well 
Si
Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 05, 2004, 09:00:08 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 05, 2004, 09:00:08 PM
At the mo the closest one to me is Scoobiworld in loughborough, who although cater for the obvious, will no doubt have something to fit a rx?
I may just get a new unit not sure yet, a nice crome one would be cool no?
But i\'ll see ya sunday Si, might go down to Scoobi world tomorrow as loughborough is like 10mins away.
I may just get a new unit not sure yet, a nice crome one would be cool no?
But i\'ll see ya sunday Si, might go down to Scoobi world tomorrow as loughborough is like 10mins away.
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 01:04:23 AM
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 01:04:23 AM
Sadly they dont seem to have any HKS goodies thou (http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/contrib/aahmed/sad.gif) & er i\'d be & am tempted to look around for best option/deal as P&P aint usually an issue but lettice no how you go.... Blitz chrome shiny bling bling types do look great & suck a load of air although it depends how badly you need clean air as well but it\'s better than no induction kit at all.....
Si
Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 06, 2004, 10:08:33 AM
Post by: gsb876 on March 06, 2004, 10:08:33 AM
Right then come across 2 choices for new induction kits, i will post pics of them, if you guys know anything about them good/bad please post:)
The first is the pipercross viper induction kit at £174.99
The second is the Blitz sonic power filter at £324.99
Cant post pics as pics too big so if anyone knows anything about these two please post the info thanks
The first is the pipercross viper induction kit at £174.99
The second is the Blitz sonic power filter at £324.99
Cant post pics as pics too big so if anyone knows anything about these two please post the info thanks
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: J4P RX on March 06, 2004, 10:38:36 AM
Post by: J4P RX on March 06, 2004, 10:38:36 AM
If you arnt running the standard airbox, the Apexi is usually considered the way to go and is one of the cheaper options too.
Lee
Lee
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 06, 2004, 11:37:46 AM
Post by: gsb876 on March 06, 2004, 11:37:46 AM
I think the way its going might have to plan a trip to demon tweeks next wk-end Lee, as the ones i was looking at aren\'t fittable to the rx7???
So its a case of getting something that looks cool as well as being very efficent any ideas?
You mention Apexi any certain model?
I did see a Blitz sonic one for the rx7 on the web somewhere but cant remember the link:confused: i think they\'ve only just arrived in the uk hence the price:eek:
If you have any numbers or contacts please advise, thanks:)
So its a case of getting something that looks cool as well as being very efficent any ideas?
You mention Apexi any certain model?
I did see a Blitz sonic one for the rx7 on the web somewhere but cant remember the link:confused: i think they\'ve only just arrived in the uk hence the price:eek:
If you have any numbers or contacts please advise, thanks:)
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 12:52:05 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 12:52:05 PM
a quick google revealed these chaps, i have heard companies name before anyone any experiance/comments on them?
http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/rx7-airfilters.html (http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/rx7-airfilters.html)
Si
http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/rx7-airfilters.html (http://www.whifbitz.co.uk/rx7-airfilters.html)
Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 12:59:14 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 12:59:14 PM
click here for a review of different induction kits (http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/) that link has been about for ages now so maybe out of date in terms of new models etc but still worth a look & as Lee said apexi does come out rather well if yer buying new 
Si
Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 01:01:36 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 01:01:36 PM
infact reading that again Nurse i want a new filter 
Group buy maybe 
Si
Group buy maybe Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 06, 2004, 01:13:49 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 06, 2004, 01:13:49 PM
Si,
Scoobyworld no good!!! muppets only cater for the obvious, thought they might do a few others but no!!:(
Wanted to get a filter/induction today but running outta time so not looking likely no real outlets around my city?
Had my filter off today and as Ross said earlier hardly any room at all to play with so god knows what we shall get???:confused:
I think the earlier remarks at getting a twin filter is a def NO!
I talk to you tomorrow Si/John, see what we come up with.
Scoobyworld no good!!! muppets only cater for the obvious, thought they might do a few others but no!!:(
Wanted to get a filter/induction today but running outta time so not looking likely no real outlets around my city?
Had my filter off today and as Ross said earlier hardly any room at all to play with so god knows what we shall get???:confused:
I think the earlier remarks at getting a twin filter is a def NO!
I talk to you tomorrow Si/John, see what we come up with.
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 02:33:56 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 02:33:56 PM
had this back from whifbitz which sounds promising
"The Apexi kit is great value for money, it is a twin kit yes, everything is
included to fit straight on. I can do a 10% discount on them if I can get an
order of 5 together....
HKS filters are about £14.50 for small or £17.95 for large plus VAT"
Hmmm looks like i\'ll do at the least the replacement filter thing maybe more if i can be seduced
lol
Si
"The Apexi kit is great value for money, it is a twin kit yes, everything is
included to fit straight on. I can do a 10% discount on them if I can get an
order of 5 together....
HKS filters are about £14.50 for small or £17.95 for large plus VAT"
Hmmm looks like i\'ll do at the least the replacement filter thing maybe more if i can be seduced
lolSi
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: alexb on March 06, 2004, 06:35:53 PM
Post by: alexb on March 06, 2004, 06:35:53 PM
Si, I\'m looking into getting an Apexi kit, only need 3 more people ;)
Cheers,
Alex
Cheers,
Alex
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 07:39:40 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 06, 2004, 07:39:40 PM
Damn it i\'m already skint till June i will need some time to convince myself it\'s cheaper to buy a decent kit that lasts over a cheap replacement which doesn\'t. hmmmmm (Si gets his torture gear out to start his self convincing 
lol) Watch this space & i\'ll start a new thread at some point to guage interest....
Si
lol) Watch this space & i\'ll start a new thread at some point to guage interest....Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 11, 2004, 05:50:41 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 11, 2004, 05:50:41 PM
well in the mean time i ordered the replacement spongy bits for my HKS from whifbitz & they turned up today, good service, & fitted in a flash ( & me a technical retard (http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/contrib/geno/wink.gif) lol) & by heck it looks a hell of a lot better even if there are potentially better filters on the market. Will try & take some pikkies of the old vs new filter colours when i get my hands on the camera again but well quite a contrast (http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/corky/smilies25.gif) lol
Si
Si
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: gsb876 on March 11, 2004, 08:17:23 PM
Post by: gsb876 on March 11, 2004, 08:17:23 PM
Got the address or phone number kid??
I can\'t find a decent kit that\'ll fit mine so gonna have to get a replacement sponge thingy jig thing??
Also what colours they got like, blue,red green so forth?
I can\'t find a decent kit that\'ll fit mine so gonna have to get a replacement sponge thingy jig thing??
Also what colours they got like, blue,red green so forth?
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: scooby_si on March 11, 2004, 08:32:43 PM
Post by: scooby_si on March 11, 2004, 08:32:43 PM
Tel/fax: +44 (0)20 8367 1286
Mobile: +44 (0)7774 835062
email: sales@whifbitz.co.uk
web site in previous post (http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/cwm/3dlil/uh.gif)
he said they used to do them different colours but doesn\'t appear so now the choice is green green or erm green
lol
Si
PS remember yours is a big one (so to speak (http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/realhappy/op485.gif) lol)
Mobile: +44 (0)7774 835062
email: sales@whifbitz.co.uk
web site in previous post (http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/cwm/3dlil/uh.gif)
he said they used to do them different colours but doesn\'t appear so now the choice is green green or erm green
lolSi
PS remember yours is a big one (so to speak (http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/realhappy/op485.gif) lol)
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: Squealy on March 12, 2004, 04:13:38 AM
Post by: Squealy on March 12, 2004, 04:13:38 AM
In that little link about filters it says that the Apexi job is a bit good. Almost coninved me away from the blitz I was thinking of. Only thing is it says that it is lifetime use and no maintenance. Does anyone know if this is true. I had one on my MR2. It was bloody good but I was of the opinion it would only last for about a year. Couldn\'t tell for sure as instructions were all in Japanese.
Cheers
Neil
Cheers
Neil
Title: Air filters (twin)
Post by: 88GT-R on March 12, 2004, 06:55:14 PM
Post by: 88GT-R on March 12, 2004, 06:55:14 PM
HI,
It is a known fact that our engines do not like heat and heat build up. Although more time consuming than just replacing the element, Have you considered relocating the filter away from the turbo and waterpump and sheilding it against the heat. This would be more effective, and your engine could run cooler and safer.
All the best,
John
88 GT-R
It is a known fact that our engines do not like heat and heat build up. Although more time consuming than just replacing the element, Have you considered relocating the filter away from the turbo and waterpump and sheilding it against the heat. This would be more effective, and your engine could run cooler and safer.
All the best,
John
88 GT-R